Something about flower cat is that its still the only "secret" cat unit in the whole game which kinda sucks. I wish they did more stuff like that throughout the game progression.
@@wagiqwq Nah I drew this one myself! I'm less confident on human drawings or complex cats like Bahamut though which is why I commissioned other artists for those stuff
I think the worst side effect of bombercat is actually making every black enemy nowadays freeze immune, making units like nobunaga useless (without ultra form at least) and especially pumpcat true form (freeze+behemoth slayer when there is no black behemoth who isn't freeze immune)
2:22 (lol) well a funny story, when I was in 6th grade I was wayyy too obsessed with battle cats. So I skipped school to get bomber cat… I was still on itf 2.
I saw the youtube notification of this and brushed it off because I was gonna watch it later then I saw the fucking discord notification saying "the doomed yaoi of battle cats* and spat out my fucking drink and came running
one more thing about the anti-black meatshield part of the vudeo nono is absolutely not gonna be available for players next year, after the upcoming merc storia collab the actual merc storia game itself is shutting down services so past the upcoming merc collab there'll be no more of it coming back
This reminded me a bit to Saint Dober and Juliet Cat. Although they're not as awfully made as bomber cat and Razor back, for most players Juliet The Maiko it's essentially a "Saint Dober Slave". But, Juliet it's actually usable outside of Saint Dober. Bomber Cat kind of is usable outside from razor back, but not outside of his niche in the slightest.
Well Lucas let me tell you that not all hope is lost. With the recent addition of foundations being able to reduce a specific trait's dmg alongside talent orbs we can reduce razorback's dmg output to the point where we might be able to comfortably fight razorback without status! I can already see it the Lucas video on how to use desmos to calculate the final dmg reductions from foundations and talent orbs. The future is looking bright!
I think one thing you should have mentioned, is how is a new player who never goes online supposed to figure out how to get bombercat? Not everyone sits there and spams the slider thingy a billion times, so getting base form is already really unlikely. And then you have to refresh the event stage page at the specific time of day, on a specific day, which as you mentioned is often on a school day. So your only real counter for an op enemy is an Easter egg unit..
@@meepswag35 i found out because it looked like it would be funny if they hid anything, and i got rewarded for it. Don't get me wrong, It's still stupid to lock such an important key behind a gimmick they never did again, like if there were multiple secret units then it would be more fair since it sets the precedent of such a mechanic instead of a one and done.
Day/Video 2 of finding every png of a hololive member in a Lucus IV video: 3:08 Ceres Fauna 2 3:32 :Thinking: Takane Lui 6:12 Ookami Mio 1 7:43 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei 8:22 Ninomae Ina'nis 1 9:33 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei 11:13 (Frog Costume) Takanashi Kiara - Low Sanity 13:25 Ninomae Ina'nis 1 16:58 Ookami Mio 1 17:07 Aki Rosenthal 1 17:42 Phone Ouro Kronii 18:59 Angy Himemori Luna 19:10 Aki Rosenthal 1 22:19 Ninomae Ina'nis 1 24:35 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei New stats for this video: Ceres Fauna: 1 *(NEW)* Takane Lui: 1 *(NEW)* Hoshimachi Suisei: 3 Ninomae Ina'nis: 3 Takanashi Kiara: 1 *(NEW)* Ookami Mio: 1 *(NEW)* Aki Rosenthal: 1 *(NEW)* Ouro Kronii: 1 *(NEW)* Himemori Luna: 1 - Myth -: 4 - Council/Promise -: 2 *(NEW)* JP Gen 0: 3 *(NEW)* JP Gen 1: 1 *(NEW)* JP Gen 4: 1 *(NEW)* holoX: 1 EN: 6 *(NEW)* JP: 6 Total: 12 Lucas IV total: 18 Notes: There's double the amount of holoPNGs in this video than the last one, and although the number from EN is the same, half of the PNGs are from JP (In the last video it was all from EN). None from ID though.
Thank you Lucas! This has been in my mind for a long time now. I am currently a returning player now playing a new account and I am reminded just how razorback is obnoxious to fight without flower cat's TF. But the one thing that always ticks me off is just the unlock condition being very very inconvinient. And being this good at it's job just kinda invalidate a lot of other cat with CC targeted towards Black enemies.
@@xyzorqit really isn’t scary at all,your right. Most of the time it’s in gimmick stages and in those gimmick stages it only pops up when you screwed up. But if you just google the strategy you shouldn’t have to worry about it Also stone cat exists too
Bomber's very existence was made with Razorback in mind, literally made for each other. You know the deal, gotta ship them together now. Lucas starting a battle cats yaoi renaissance while explaining how their relationship isn't like icat, octo, and courier with their traits. . .
Yeah I think the main issue is that the way new enemies have been designed to deal with bombercat. Just making every black enemy freeze immune is just lame as hell when there's surely other ways to make them effective against stacking. And it just punishes other freeze black units that aren't unhealthy. It's just a mess
Honestly if courier Cat was the exact same as it is now, but didn't have behemoth slayer and didn't target red I think he would be a really fun and interesting rusher. Also manic eraser is in 99% of everybody's lineups and nobody complains about it (or even notices it). At this point I think manic eraser is the one true constant and everybody has simply accepted his dominance. Easily the best unit.
Funnily enough I actually think the other way around also works, if Courier only has B.Slayer without anti red, I think he also would be just powerful enough without being too unnecessarily strong
As Ponos fought the fraud, it began to open it's domain "Bombercat". Razorback shrunk back in fear, as Bomber said "stand proud Razor, you move fast, attack fast, and (spit acid ???)" You aren't a spammable advent though.
Thank you for making this video before the bombercat stage. I have just been waiting for it to show up. It doesn't show up in the event calendar with the other evolution stages.
i remember asking my math teacher if i could open battlecats mid class after i speedran her test to go get bomber cat she actually said yes goated teacher tbh
I think it would be cool to have a full list of easily accessible units that notably broke the meta/one enemy type. Of course there's courier, bomber, octo, etc, but even ones like jurassic being nearly universal on metal loadouts. It's kinda interesting to see what makes a fun broken unit vs a lame one.
0:50 i figured this out, at least a bit. Here is the story: My phone screen is bad, so after a bit i decided to switch to an autoclicker that will swipe it for me. I set it up, go to eat, and when i return, i still got nothing! So, i reset it, switch to a slightly higher speed (it was a swipe every 300 ms, and i changed it to 200 ms), and got it in a minute. My takeaway is that you need to consistently swipe at a certain pace, for some time, otherwise it will never give you a cat.
the thing is with razorback too is that if your pizza is strong enough you can kind of brute force his first knockback but then he strengthens so its basically imposssible. another kinda similiar case to me is iguanidae (relic lizard) where it basically forces you to bring one of the three units in the game (Dogu, Naala, Luza) that can actually do anything to it. its not nearly as bad as bomber/razorback because theres three options and its mega late game, but it still makes me kinda hate that enemy
I think it would be interesting to see a new enemy base that gives effect resist like the cat base upgrades do, it could make enemies that get cyberbullied by sanzo or bomber able to exist
I don’t have bomber cat still and I’m still desperately waiting for the second month of the twenty second day at 2:22 pm to obtain the true form of flower cat. I’m so done using slow up combo and sniper the heavy and other slowing units to deal with razorbacks. Stages like Lucas mentioned like, The Holy Exploit or my personally hated stages in Uncanny Legends involving Razorbacks like, Cats in the Stars and Tropical Garden really grind my gears.
I remember waiting for the awaken stage with my phone under my desk, entering the stage when it came up and then pausing so I could play it after class. One of my best battle cats memories 😂
God dammit Lucas stop transitioning into making based BC content, content which this community kinda really needs and has needed for a while in order to round off its youtube presence Lucas noooo Also i like how in every video ever since the Dasli one you mentioned Dasli at least once
whats even worse is that l would have never even known that bomber cat existed if l didnt watch any videos on the game. Its crazy how progression is locked behind something a casual player might not even know exists
I think it’s also worth mentioning talented pizza cat since he gets slow talents. Sure it isn’t that great against blacks because of their high kb count and pizza’s high damage but at the same time razorback has low kb and high health. The slow uptime may be kinda poor but at the same time you can usually get a few of them stacked up if Razorback spawns on base hit (The Holy Exploit, Pyroclastic Flow, Beachhead invasion). And even if the slow doesn’t proc a lot your still using pizza at the end of the day which will still quickly burst down Razorback.
I honestly believe that all the things you complained about are actually the reasons why bombercat and razorback are designed so well. I’ve always believed that in games like BC good design isn’t dependant on balance but on uniqueness, there are hundreds of cats and enemies so adding something new is only as valuable as it is unique. That makes the relationship between the unstoppable pusher razorback and the otherwise worthless cat that perfectly counters it bombercat unique. It makes it so that all stages where razorback appears transform, changing the objective to keeping you incredibly frail stack of debuggers alive, because if they die, razorback pushes and you die. The biggest issue is that ponos needs to find / make more interesting enemies to pair it with. Imagine a stage where the goal is to use wave / ld attacks to continually kb an enemy like the dogelord so he can never attack. They’d probably need to add a regular enemy variant of him for it to wrk but the idea is still there.
i havent finished the video yet so you probably touch on this in the video, but one thing that kinda sucks about bombercat existing is that it justifies razorbacks existence bc "oh just use bomber" and it sucks if you want to beat razorback stages in 4* without bomber
I disagree with you that Bombercat and Razorback is a "bad" dynamic. That would be the case if you just focus on the interactivity of their matchup but I would say that isn't the case here. I would say the the with Razorback, the challenge isn't to beat him but the fact that you have to include Bomber in your lineup. I like that dynamic of providing an alternative challenge than just to beat the actual enemy. I think of it as a gimmick enemy akin to Assassin Bear. Now, Razorback is indeed beatable by other units so it's not nearly as restrictive as Assassin Bear. The issue I agree with, however, is that they haven't been able to make a cool challenge out of this dynamic yet. However, I like that they always have an option to make good use of this different kind of challenge.
What I find it so funny abt this vid is that Ponos did it AGAIN with Hitman (in the sense that it was created bc of existing content being poorly balanced rather than being a "stale hard counter" against traitless like Bomber is to Razor) Let's be real, the main reason Hitman exists is Cloned Farmers He was built FOR that stage specifically and unlike more recent ZL chapters where Ponos makes stages meant to be countered by the new Ultra Forms added where you would need...welp, an ULTRA FORM Hitman is locked behind Empress Excavation 4 rather than the gacha
6:08 "If the best way to fight an enemy is not to fight an enemy, then there's probably something wrong with the design, y'know". I disagree with this statement. Sometimes, the best design ones are those that are completely optiontal to fight, Ex: Emil in Nier Automata, The Nameless King In DS3,... I know that you specifically talking about the razor black but something about that sentence just bugs me so much.
only took me till UL 9 to finally remember to get on battle cats at 2:22 pm, I always just used tons of continues (and hanzo) for forced razorbacks, but hanzo still cant do it on his own and dies quickly
2:19 on this october 22nd i was on spanish class and on 2:18PM i asked the teacher if i could go to the bathroom, i beat it easly and went back to class
after starting to watch this video, i decided to start idly swiping to try to finally unlock flower cat i then took a break to do a quick zombie game i then unlocked flower cat at 13:36 a bit after i started idly swiping again
Taste of success is still impossibile tho, even when I have a stack of combo boosted bombercats, there's always something that somehow manages to kill them all, giving the razorbacks enough time to destroy my ubers
I think the problem you have is that bomber is a a lock and key unit. You see razorback, you bring bomber. That's the only big strategy you have with him. Maybe a bit of timing but it's just all very simple. All the other units have more purpose then that, they don't solve one problem and nothing else. And all the other units other than maybe courier have alternate options. Razorback and bomber is a lock and key scenario where bomber is the only key. Courier is a great "key" for red but there are other options even if courier might be the best. There are almost no other non-uber options for razorback other than just using bomber.
battle cats players try to not make unfunny racist joke on any anti-black units challenge impossible
Don't forget the cop cat
Glad I research how to get bomber cat before I had to wait 3 months 💀
@@irfanmuzaki6698he’s anti traitless,and even then he doesn’t dominate his trait like how Bombercat and Pookiemura do
if you really think about; all specialist units are racist towards their targeted traits
I haven't seen anyone make a joke like that in forever
so this is why you were asking for bombercat razorback yaoi
Yeah I was like why would he ask if there is any Razorback x Bomber fanart on twitter lmao
😧: My reaction without if I saw this without context
Yea I'm sure lucas was planning on using that for the video and nothing else
@@susamogus8331 yup surely
it was all foreshadowing
She bomber on my cat till permafreeze
Spermafreeze
I'm gonna do what razor back does to your behind
🕛
I'm stealing that😭
@@NaLian605 razorbackshots
Something about flower cat is that its still the only "secret" cat unit in the whole game which kinda sucks. I wish they did more stuff like that throughout the game progression.
Undead Cat's unlock requirement in JP is actually very cryptic too. IIRC you need to press a secret button in the Help / FAQ menu or something.
@@LucasIVYTOh really? Damn, i wish EN had that.
I'd say IDI is a secret Unit,
Filibuster too,
Not Jagando tho.
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAroundid agree idi, but no fillibuster as the game kinda tells you how to get him
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllArounddr.nova technically is also a secret unit then if you include idi.
The best cc you can apply to an enemy is death
@@catgameplayer no no,he’s got a point
Hades agrees
Yukimura approves this
"The best defense is the offense"
Zombie units:
lucas' thumbnail game has been crazy good these last videos ngl
This one's basically a parody of Super Bomberman R!
Next stream when?@@LucasIVYT
@@LucasIVYT yeah looks awesome! Did you assign an artist?
@@LucasIVYT I adore it:D
@@wagiqwq Nah I drew this one myself! I'm less confident on human drawings or complex cats like Bahamut though which is why I commissioned other artists for those stuff
"Most UNREASONABLE true form"
> The video is about the unbreakable love and loyalty between razorback and bomber
What did he mean by this?
ramen is not as bad
also me using ramen for the entire first half of sol
@@m453-aperson tf are u talking about
@@m453-apersonramen 💀💀💀
[Insert art of razorback and bomber making out here]
wowwies
Wouldn't pay, but certainly wouldn't mind.
its peak actually
Awooga
😐
I think the worst side effect of bombercat is actually making every black enemy nowadays freeze immune, making units like nobunaga useless (without ultra form at least) and especially pumpcat true form (freeze+behemoth slayer when there is no black behemoth who isn't freeze immune)
@@-_gustawhyper_- Powercreep!
2:22 (lol) well a funny story, when I was in 6th grade I was wayyy too obsessed with battle cats. So I skipped school to get bomber cat… I was still on itf 2.
The fact that this timestamp in your comment is also 2:22 lol
@@Socratesdoge My story is that I excused myself to go to the bathroom at exactly 2:20 so that I can get the Bombercat true form.
The Greek tragedy if the ages
@@neutralspecial1413 🤯
@@Socratesdoge i just did it in class while the teacher was talking
I saw the youtube notification of this and brushed it off because I was gonna watch it later then I saw the fucking discord notification saying "the doomed yaoi of battle cats* and spat out my fucking drink and came running
one more thing about the anti-black meatshield part of the vudeo
nono is absolutely not gonna be available for players next year, after the upcoming merc storia collab the actual merc storia game itself is shutting down services so past the upcoming merc collab there'll be no more of it coming back
0:45 You have to slide the door until you hear a meow. You then have to do that a total of 100 times in under 1 minute.
That sounds near impossible in hindsight that means you have to do it one or twice a second nonstop
@Xailic Yep. Have fun.
@Xailic thats really not hard, you can swipe it three or four times a second easily
@@alwayrember193 I know I have it
This reminded me a bit to Saint Dober and Juliet Cat.
Although they're not as awfully made as bomber cat and Razor back, for most players Juliet The Maiko it's essentially a "Saint Dober Slave".
But, Juliet it's actually usable outside of Saint Dober. Bomber Cat kind of is usable outside from razor back, but not outside of his niche in the slightest.
this is basically true yes st dober is also rly bad
Well Lucas let me tell you that not all hope is lost.
With the recent addition of foundations being able to reduce a specific trait's dmg alongside talent orbs we can reduce razorback's dmg output to the point where we might be able to comfortably fight razorback without status!
I can already see it the Lucas video on how to use desmos to calculate the final dmg reductions from foundations and talent orbs.
The future is looking bright!
LMAOOOOO okay angry bird ass
every stage can be made into Z-onel tier big brain moment if you try hard enough
@@scheeep7376 z-onal and razor stage🤤
Ponos trying to not force you to use a cat and actually have a choice in what to bring in your loaudout
Same thing can be said for the angel and behemoth trait,if you don’t have ramen/courier your cooked
You have a choice
...of what broken fest Uber you wanna bring to instantly roll a stage
Ohhhhh so that's why you asked twitter for Bombercat and Razorback making out art.
bombercat: i have to learn how to quit you
razorback: i know babe
insert freeze effect png
I think one thing you should have mentioned, is how is a new player who never goes online supposed to figure out how to get bombercat? Not everyone sits there and spams the slider thingy a billion times, so getting base form is already really unlikely. And then you have to refresh the event stage page at the specific time of day, on a specific day, which as you mentioned is often on a school day. So your only real counter for an op enemy is an Easter egg unit..
@@meepswag35 i found out because it looked like it would be funny if they hid anything, and i got rewarded for it. Don't get me wrong, It's still stupid to lock such an important key behind a gimmick they never did again, like if there were multiple secret units then it would be more fair since it sets the precedent of such a mechanic instead of a one and done.
Day/Video 2 of finding every png of a hololive member in a Lucus IV video:
3:08 Ceres Fauna 2
3:32 :Thinking: Takane Lui
6:12 Ookami Mio 1
7:43 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei
8:22 Ninomae Ina'nis 1
9:33 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei
11:13 (Frog Costume) Takanashi Kiara - Low Sanity
13:25 Ninomae Ina'nis 1
16:58 Ookami Mio 1
17:07 Aki Rosenthal 1
17:42 Phone Ouro Kronii
18:59 Angy Himemori Luna
19:10 Aki Rosenthal 1
22:19 Ninomae Ina'nis 1
24:35 :Thinking: Hoshimachi Suisei
New stats for this video:
Ceres Fauna: 1
*(NEW)* Takane Lui: 1
*(NEW)* Hoshimachi Suisei: 3
Ninomae Ina'nis: 3
Takanashi Kiara: 1
*(NEW)* Ookami Mio: 1
*(NEW)* Aki Rosenthal: 1
*(NEW)* Ouro Kronii: 1
*(NEW)* Himemori Luna: 1
- Myth -: 4
- Council/Promise -: 2
*(NEW)* JP Gen 0: 3
*(NEW)* JP Gen 1: 1
*(NEW)* JP Gen 4: 1
*(NEW)* holoX: 1
EN: 6
*(NEW)* JP: 6
Total: 12
Lucas IV total: 18
Notes: There's double the amount of holoPNGs in this video than the last one, and although the number from EN is the same, half of the PNGs are from JP (In the last video it was all from EN). None from ID though.
@@omegablaze135 lmao yea i added a couple new holo reaction images recently
@@LucasIVYT Nice.
Why do you possess such knowledge
bro started seed tracking hololive members
someone has to much time
Thank you Lucas! This has been in my mind for a long time now. I am currently a returning player now playing a new account and I am reminded just how razorback is obnoxious to fight without flower cat's TF. But the one thing that always ticks me off is just the unlock condition being very very inconvinient. And being this good at it's job just kinda invalidate a lot of other cat with CC targeted towards Black enemies.
razorback with no bomber? eh close enough, welcome back DREAMY
I love razorback and hating mi-
Real
bomber? sounds a lot like boomer...
I use Healer instead of bomber since I can’t get his true form do to the requirements… (you must get him at 2:22 and I gyatt school so yeah)
havent watched yet just wanted to compliment the thumbnail, love the parody and recreation of the bomberman UI/style.
22:09 HELP HE FORGOT THE HAT
I had school during the day it was on but my dad did the level for me 👍
@@Ilikecats-xd4wd w dad
Holy gigachad
W dad 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
Goated father
You have a great dad
The problem for me is that every time the bomber cat awakens stage appears,I’m at school😔
@@hydro_da_aquatic_guy Next month it is on sunday
Then just change the time on your phone to 2:20 after school
uh don’t worry,I think next month 22nd I don’t have school
Razorback when bomber cat walks in:
💞
Razorback is the scariest enemy I have ever faced since assassin bear
Scariest enemy you’ve faced so FAR
assbear ain't that scary
@@xyzorqit really isn’t scary at all,your right. Most of the time it’s in gimmick stages and in those gimmick stages it only pops up when you screwed up. But if you just google the strategy you shouldn’t have to worry about it
Also stone cat exists too
@@xyzorqboosted assshittin bear
@xyzorqi got stuck on the last gang for like a week because of assassin bear
Finally, I'm not the only one who thinks Razorback is a shit enemy
I’ve seen lots of people say that razorback is a bad enemy
I wish they were just called dark units bro 😭
Bombercat when the Black Enemy is Freeze Immune:
14:13 idk if this is intentional or not but the lass on screen holding razorback and bombercat in her hands is perfectly placed.
Bomber's very existence was made with Razorback in mind, literally made for each other. You know the deal, gotta ship them together now.
Lucas starting a battle cats yaoi renaissance while explaining how their relationship isn't like icat, octo, and courier with their traits. . .
Yeah I think the main issue is that the way new enemies have been designed to deal with bombercat. Just making every black enemy freeze immune is just lame as hell when there's surely other ways to make them effective against stacking. And it just punishes other freeze black units that aren't unhealthy. It's just a mess
Feels like a giving the whole class detention because one student was a problem thing almost lmao
Honestly if courier Cat was the exact same as it is now, but didn't have behemoth slayer and didn't target red I think he would be a really fun and interesting rusher.
Also manic eraser is in 99% of everybody's lineups and nobody complains about it (or even notices it). At this point I think manic eraser is the one true constant and everybody has simply accepted his dominance. Easily the best unit.
Funnily enough I actually think the other way around also works, if Courier only has B.Slayer without anti red, I think he also would be just powerful enough without being too unnecessarily strong
thought i was going crazy from playing too much deadlock when i heard the music at the beginning lol. great music choice
your search history must be screwed after those images
Oh if we wanna talk trait-breaking units, don’t get me started on Esoteric Uril. That unit is not ok LOL.
@@kartoffel9684 yeah but he’s not very early game
Glad to make the art in the video at
24:16 !!!!! 🔥
I love the random images with Lucas’s hat, like Kronii at 17:43 very good choice
"i created you, and you created me"
"ponos whyd you create that cat?"
As Ponos fought the fraud, it began to open it's domain "Bombercat". Razorback shrunk back in fear, as Bomber said "stand proud Razor, you move fast, attack fast, and (spit acid ???)" You aren't a spammable advent though.
Thank you for making this video before the bombercat stage. I have just been waiting for it to show up. It doesn't show up in the event calendar with the other evolution stages.
i remember asking my math teacher if i could open battlecats mid class after i speedran her test to go get bomber cat
she actually said yes goated teacher tbh
25 minutes about why flowey ruined black enemies
I think it would be cool to have a full list of easily accessible units that notably broke the meta/one enemy type. Of course there's courier, bomber, octo, etc, but even ones like jurassic being nearly universal on metal loadouts. It's kinda interesting to see what makes a fun broken unit vs a lame one.
0:50 i figured this out, at least a bit. Here is the story:
My phone screen is bad, so after a bit i decided to switch to an autoclicker that will swipe it for me. I set it up, go to eat, and when i return, i still got nothing! So, i reset it, switch to a slightly higher speed (it was a swipe every 300 ms, and i changed it to 200 ms), and got it in a minute.
My takeaway is that you need to consistently swipe at a certain pace, for some time, otherwise it will never give you a cat.
I enjoy the fact that not only was this the reason you asked for the bomberback yaoi, but that there is a whole chapter named "doomed yaoi"
When u want to get bombercat but you lwk have dementia:
lucas making whole 25 minutes video to show us bomber x razorback arts thats what we wanted 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
the thing is with razorback too is that if your pizza is strong enough you can kind of brute force his first knockback but then he strengthens so its basically imposssible. another kinda similiar case to me is iguanidae (relic lizard) where it basically forces you to bring one of the three units in the game (Dogu, Naala, Luza) that can actually do anything to it. its not nearly as bad as bomber/razorback because theres three options and its mega late game, but it still makes me kinda hate that enemy
10:35 LUCAS, WHERE IS THE HAT?!?!
I think it would be interesting to see a new enemy base that gives effect resist like the cat base upgrades do, it could make enemies that get cyberbullied by sanzo or bomber able to exist
24:20
HEY!!!
I know that artist!!!
Uhhhh. Duckelf or something, uhh.
CILLOW PACK REFERENCE!!!
lucas' thumbnail just revealed the new ultra form....
Super Bombercat N
BOMBERCAT IS MY GOAT....
MY GOAT, SINGLE-HANDEDLY CARRYING ME THROUGH EARLY GAME PURE BLACK STAGES
MY GOAT
I wish I could unsee those Razorback x Bomber Cat pictures.
You're probably the best battle cats youtuber. Great videos!
I don’t have bomber cat still and I’m still desperately waiting for the second month of the twenty second day at 2:22 pm to obtain the true form of flower cat. I’m so done using slow up combo and sniper the heavy and other slowing units to deal with razorbacks. Stages like Lucas mentioned like, The Holy Exploit or my personally hated stages in Uncanny Legends involving Razorbacks like, Cats in the Stars and Tropical Garden really grind my gears.
I remember waiting for the awaken stage with my phone under my desk, entering the stage when it came up and then pausing so I could play it after class. One of my best battle cats memories 😂
Waiter! waiter! More Bombercat razorback yaoi please!
God dammit Lucas stop transitioning into making based BC content, content which this community kinda really needs and has needed for a while in order to round off its youtube presence Lucas noooo
Also i like how in every video ever since the Dasli one you mentioned Dasli at least once
It’s like WolfeGlick and Incineroar
@@Buby39or seedium plants and creeps20
whats even worse is that l would have never even known that bomber cat existed if l didnt watch any videos on the game. Its crazy how progression is locked behind something a casual player might not even know exists
I think it’s also worth mentioning talented pizza cat since he gets slow talents. Sure it isn’t that great against blacks because of their high kb count and pizza’s high damage but at the same time razorback has low kb and high health. The slow uptime may be kinda poor but at the same time you can usually get a few of them stacked up if Razorback spawns on base hit (The Holy Exploit, Pyroclastic Flow, Beachhead invasion). And even if the slow doesn’t proc a lot your still using pizza at the end of the day which will still quickly burst down Razorback.
It doesn’t replace bombercat obviously for stages where u cant build up a decent stack but it’s an option for some Razorback stages at least
These thumbnails getting better and better 👌
"just monika" ahh razorback
I still don’t have bomber because I’m just so forgetful I miss it’s true form stage everytime it rolls around
do you guys think lucas likes brazillian phonk
For door sliding thing it's anywhere between 1 to 100 times within a min
Who knew an accidental pyromaniac would be so powerful?
20:54 front facing row has changed my life
The lord is back, let’s see how many true things he’ll say today
I think it's 100 times in under a minute?
Thank you for the video lungcancer
16:11 Bombercat slander being used as cyberpunk slander is crazy
I honestly believe that all the things you complained about are actually the reasons why bombercat and razorback are designed so well. I’ve always believed that in games like BC good design isn’t dependant on balance but on uniqueness, there are hundreds of cats and enemies so adding something new is only as valuable as it is unique. That makes the relationship between the unstoppable pusher razorback and the otherwise worthless cat that perfectly counters it bombercat unique. It makes it so that all stages where razorback appears transform, changing the objective to keeping you incredibly frail stack of debuggers alive, because if they die, razorback pushes and you die. The biggest issue is that ponos needs to find / make more interesting enemies to pair it with. Imagine a stage where the goal is to use wave / ld attacks to continually kb an enemy like the dogelord so he can never attack. They’d probably need to add a regular enemy variant of him for it to wrk but the idea is still there.
i think this would be the last place i would expect the deadlock shop theme to be used
have you seen the fanart of you making out with dasli
i havent finished the video yet so you probably touch on this in the video, but one thing that kinda sucks about bombercat existing is that it justifies razorbacks existence bc "oh just use bomber" and it sucks if you want to beat razorback stages in 4* without bomber
I love how he talks about holy exploit while I make it to that stage in 4 crown difficulty
Only now realized that Foodstall is a Variant of Flower cat. And both have busted True Forms
24:14 I see now why you asked a photo of Bomber cat kissing Razorblack
I disagree with you that Bombercat and Razorback is a "bad" dynamic.
That would be the case if you just focus on the interactivity of their matchup but I would say that isn't the case here.
I would say the the with Razorback, the challenge isn't to beat him but the fact that you have to include Bomber in your lineup. I like that dynamic of providing an alternative challenge than just to beat the actual enemy.
I think of it as a gimmick enemy akin to Assassin Bear. Now, Razorback is indeed beatable by other units so it's not nearly as restrictive as Assassin Bear.
The issue I agree with, however, is that they haven't been able to make a cool challenge out of this dynamic yet. However, I like that they always have an option to make good use of this different kind of challenge.
What I find it so funny abt this vid is that Ponos did it AGAIN with Hitman (in the sense that it was created bc of existing content being poorly balanced rather than being a "stale hard counter" against traitless like Bomber is to Razor)
Let's be real, the main reason Hitman exists is Cloned Farmers
He was built FOR that stage specifically and unlike more recent ZL chapters where Ponos makes stages meant to be countered by the new Ultra Forms added where you would need...welp, an ULTRA FORM
Hitman is locked behind Empress Excavation 4 rather than the gacha
I dont like slime cat's true form. Any video/idea about manju cat?
I wish it was something like removing wave attack for level 1 surge
@@deadclawh3851 90% of the slime cat enjoyers would hate that with a passion, the interactions he got with true form are beautiful to see
6:08 "If the best way to fight an enemy is not to fight an enemy, then there's probably something wrong with the design, y'know". I disagree with this statement. Sometimes, the best design ones are those that are completely optiontal to fight, Ex: Emil in Nier Automata, The Nameless King In DS3,... I know that you specifically talking about the razor black but something about that sentence just bugs me so much.
Great vid I rate it
only took me till UL 9 to finally remember to get on battle cats at 2:22 pm, I always just used tons of continues (and hanzo) for forced razorbacks, but hanzo still cant do it on his own and dies quickly
2:19 on this october 22nd i was on spanish class and on 2:18PM i asked the teacher if i could go to the bathroom, i beat it easly and went back to class
after starting to watch this video, i decided to start idly swiping to try to finally unlock flower cat
i then took a break to do a quick zombie game
i then unlocked flower cat at 13:36 a bit after i started idly swiping again
DEADLOCK SHOP MUSIC AT 0:00??? instant like
omg, a essay about battle cats. YESS
Taste of success is still impossibile tho, even when I have a stack of combo boosted bombercats, there's always something that somehow manages to kill them all, giving the razorbacks enough time to destroy my ubers
THUMBNAIL IS PEAK
But the new hannya variant got countered by bomber too
Bombercat also has a freeze up combo with ice cat so ponos was basically asking for this
Love the thumbnail for this vid
Black enemies be like: bomboclatt
Every time I see a black heavy stage I put in bomber and then pizza or an uber and win, HE'S TO BROKEN
I think the problem you have is that bomber is a a lock and key unit. You see razorback, you bring bomber. That's the only big strategy you have with him. Maybe a bit of timing but it's just all very simple. All the other units have more purpose then that, they don't solve one problem and nothing else. And all the other units other than maybe courier have alternate options. Razorback and bomber is a lock and key scenario where bomber is the only key. Courier is a great "key" for red but there are other options even if courier might be the best. There are almost no other non-uber options for razorback other than just using bomber.