TC Helicon vs BOSS VE-20 Harmony Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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In this video I compare and test 2 Vocal Pedals
boss ve-20
tc helicon voicelive play
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disclaimer: I am not a great singer!! but I try and in general just try n have fun with these tests
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I had both. I loved the TC for all the seemingly never ending options but when it came to live gigging, everything just died and I ended up doing it with no effects and totally raw and exposed. It was a nightmare and then I had to go to the process of elimination - including sound source at the venue. I tried it again somewhere else and same dilemma, so it wasn't the venue... I then researched like crazy and finally, suspect that it was actually something wrong with the pedal - because it was 'the last one in the country' but typically, I had gone passed the warrantee. I now use x2 VE-20's and have never been let down. The TC is GREAT for home recording but not to be relied on in a live environment in my opinion.
Interesting. Defective unit. I have had mine for years it has always worked.
I once ordered a pair of brand new stage monitors out of the box one didn't work. Took off the back 1 wire unconnected. QUALITY CONTROL often fails in electronics.
I loved my tc helicon but it let me down live as well. Great sound but not the best craftsmanship.
i had a similar situation with the tc helicon. it wasn’t live but went to practice the night before my gig and stopped working
Have had both. When you're on stage and only have seconds to make changes, BOSS is much easier to use and sounds better with fewer adjustments.
Thanks for sharing your experience, much appreciated!
Good comparison, thank you, I felt that the Boss was the clear winner. just going on what I heard.
Glad I could help
Interesting, I felt like the opposite was true. I felt the TC harmonies sounded more natural and less processed.
I think this video brings me to the boss. I’m a bass player that does backing vocals most of the time. I need a pedal that can be bounced around. Boss has been in that game for decades
It does. The TC Helicon is definitely more for experimentation in the studio than anything.
Is there one of the other that has a better foundational tone to start with? I mean, which one I just has an awesome preamp and great compression?
The Boss is more natural because its more subtle and i think has some degree of analog signal. The TC helicon is more like a cheap ferrari it sounds more digital but the FX are more pronounced and you habe a far wider variety of fx in the tc helicon like it use of phasers , tape machine robotic sounds, etc.
Nice! thanks for the demo!
You bet!
Tc is good For vocal harmonizer and accurate tune,
boss is good for loop. Harmonizer is good but not totally accurate but the harmonizer in boss its sound natural than TC.
Digitech Vocal Live Harmony is better than both of these. I do like the doubler on the Boss though. Gigged with the TC for a year and just didn’t like it at all.
I’ve been gigging with the Boss VE-20. I was thinking of trying something else that might be easier to navigate or sound better. The TC isn’t it. I’m still interested in investigating the TC Helicon Mic Mechanic
@@CatharticGuitar right, it is a digital maze but does have several preprogrammed presets.
@@newcastlemusicstudios the more I’m looking at different options, the Boss VE - 20 seems to include the features of multiple individual pedals by other companies. I spent about 30 minutes learning the different settings on the VE - 20, and I think it is actually the best option out there now.
i have boss ve-20 and boss is a legend...
Indeed, it's a great tool!
Hesitating to choose one from this two. I love super dreamy/ambient vocal heavy reverb/harmony/delay etc, which one might be better? I’ve heard ppl saying TC is w much more options but the boss one is easier to handle when you play live ? Also wonder do they have loop option too? Many thx xxx
Boss had a loop function on it. Boss is easy to step on yes. Byt you can switch presets on the TC with a step as well.
Tc has way more ootions especially of u like dreamy reverb and delay settings, TC is way better.
TC is my choice at this point. The loop function is more advanced on the Tc helicon. Boss loop function is very easy because it has a large LOOP BUTTON.
Be patient and learn how you would luke to use it and eventually itll be easy.
Interesting comparison between these 2 .
THANKS
Tc helicon the Best
Boss nailed it like a well you know, a boss.
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Seriously though, you know this video is truly unfair as your supposed to play a guitar into these.
You can run a guitar into them but they are made for vocal processing
@@trevorcoles7940 Yeah I wound up buying the VE-2 and found this to be true.
Uhh what? They are both made for vocals.
@@BrendanWhelan Indeed.
definitely should’ve turned off the reverb to compare but thank u
You turn on the reverb on the boss but not on the tc helicon.. that is why the boss sound no so natural.. Pls do a test again this time wirh exactly the same effect same song & go back & fort on each effect.. If you test the tc helicon first then the boss then we forgot what the tc helicon sound compared to the boss.. you have to go back & fort for each kind of effect
I believe i did that because the person who requested the video asked me to use the boss presets whether the reverb was on or not. But if u listened to the whole thing, there are a few examples with no reverb on the Boss right away, then with added reverb. I dont think either of them sound like "Natural harmonies." Top be honest if you stack your vocals in. DAW then record 5 harmonies, ut is actaully the variation or vinrato in each take you do that creates a natural sound. Whereas if you copy n past your voice in a DAW to recreate this effect you will hear how unnatural stack the same vocal take sounds and that is all each pedal is doing is stack the harmony in real time. However you can click n record n save your harmonies in the Boss to get a more natural sound if you spwnd enough time mastering the art of foot pedal recording on stage etc. But thanks for the comment i appreciate everyone's contribution and thoughts as they are helpful to others.
I’ve had both. And with a small stage and heavy drummer the gain control makes it very challenging to mix where the vocals are out front still louder than other instruments. I’ve had a feedback nightmare the last couple shows… which brings me to RUclips because I know it’s most likely user error.
Oftenthere is too much reverb and delay when it is not necessary n a live situation. Always best to program your own preset or turn down the reverb n delay.
Which do you feel better when using for a small live? Thank you x
@@Xiaoo879 The Boss 100%. But once you sit down for a couple hours with the tc helicon, it does compete. Especially with the foot pedal fuctions.
The Bose is more user friendly. I felt like I needed a sound engineer degree at times with the tc helicon. And it didn’t have vocal eq. Just a great fx capabilities.
I didn’t need all of the functions. I just need to have more gain flexibility and a clean balanced sound going to the board with minimal fx. Just reverb on like 15 and delay on 20.
I love the loop feature on the boss. I use it to mic check my mic because I am our sound guy. That allows me to get out in front of the mains to mix all instruments except my guitar.
The Boss also looks way cooler and is built WAY tougher. Also has 9v battery function so if you don’t have power right in front of you, you can still have vocal fx.
@@coltonkrokroskia1044 thank youuu so much that really helps a lot- I think I will get boss first then! Thx xxxx
@@Xiaoo879 Boss is the way to go most of the time. Buy once and you will have this pedal for years once you zero it in. You’ll hate singing without it. Haha. If you have a sound guy you don’t trust, just bring it with you haha.
does either of these (or any vocal pedal) distinguish between major and minor thirds etc within a specific key? Because within every key some 3rd are major, some are minor. So it needs to know when to do which 3rd or it will sound awful! Any ideas? Cheers:)
I assume it just goes to the closest note you are singing in each key signature when set.
@@newcastlemusicstudios oh great! so can you set the key signature on both pedals?
I only have the Voicelive (both Play and Play Electric) but it allows you to select three variations of each of major and minor (what those variations mean I’m not sure 😬) when you select an actual key (ie not ‘Auto’)
Will micd acoustic guitar with Boss since no guitar input?
yes, use a microphone instead to the guitar
Helicon = mmmeh - synthetic, unconvincing, quite dry...
BOSS = "I'd fuck him!"
Dude that was awesome!
Lol
How can I get in touch with you, if possible about recording session/questions please?
You can email me at madeofbloodmusic@gmail.com
For any further questions, Thanks.
Could it be that in the masterselection of the Boss, the effect output stands in mono? (thats what its sound)
You can choose Stereo or Mono. Im sure mixed down the stereo effect os unnoticeable.
sorry for the repetitive songs, had a mental block while doing this, if you are interested in these pedals, I have other reviews, check my Channel for those reviews.... Also all links to all products used in this video are linked in the Description box that includes specific microphone / audio interface I used, thanks!
Looks like boss ve 20 Got more softer harmony sound, not so digital and unnatural as helicon do
Agreed tc is definitely more digital sounding but does offer a wider variety of effects.
Bought the boss not that happy with it TBH. Had the TC Helicon GXT before that and found the harmonies far superior and much more realistic. The boss sound too artificial so it’s back to the GXT for me
That makes sene. Boss is. Bit overrated for what you get. The Tc Helicon is more versatile and offer so much more ability to be creative. The Boss is very Plane jane.
With the right user, both can rock. Otherwise, it can be painful to watch.
True... its difficult to put a huge bandaid on bad singing!!
@@newcastlemusicstudios It’s not what I’ve meant. I mean that it’s a tricky device. You have to set it right. Cheers.
olá gostaria de saber se o boss ve 20 ele tem compressor para voz embutido ou ele tem somente efeitos????
Solo efeitos
¿Como se configuran las armonías si los instrumentos afinan en Eb ?
In MENU
FOOT PEDAL
en Menú el tono correcto para configurar la tecla Eb
God damn you can rock!
Haha wtf lol!
So who is the winner?.
TC Helicon... more modifications, better selection
Digitech.
If volumes were even it would be easier to judge
The Boss Ve-20 is much quieter . Solid point I should've adjusted that!
Boss all day.
Boss dest natural
Yes more natural!