Boss VE-22 Vocal Performer Pedal - Should you Upgrade?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @RainMan-zw7fn
    @RainMan-zw7fn 8 месяцев назад +2

    If I wanted to record directly over my playback track on my laptop, would I just need to connect the mic into the VE-22 and USB into the laptop?
    This piece of kit does seem a lot more advanced then the VE-20 which I found more industrially robust for live shows..
    Great demonstrations on your videos, they worked on me...

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. Cause of the USBC on the back, it becomes an audio interface. 👍🏻

  • @EgeCoskun
    @EgeCoskun 9 месяцев назад +20

    10 years ago I bought TC Helicon Play Acoustic. Harmony recognition and the effects were superb! 10 years later I bought exactly the same unit 😊 No other brand has could change my mind. I have Boss units (and many other brands as well) and love them so much but for “Vocals” I had to go for TC 🤘

    • @haveball
      @haveball 8 месяцев назад +2

      Has it guitar effects same as vocal effect?

    • @BarrabasAntipas
      @BarrabasAntipas 5 месяцев назад +1

      Boss ve 2 it’s good ? Better than tc helicon ?

    • @phowell333
      @phowell333 4 месяца назад

      @@haveball Yes, it has guitar effects. I have a TC. Helicon Play Electric that I just listed for sale. Great unit and the "Electric" version is kind of scarce. Listed on SW

    • @byromtaylor6482
      @byromtaylor6482 3 месяца назад

      I think the boss VE 500 is better i had both ....good thing with the harmony on here is that your harmony works with a line in .....music backing or guitar ...

  • @larrydoyle2427
    @larrydoyle2427 9 месяцев назад +10

    A great vocal pedal. Very easy to navigate and doesn't feel like you're menu diving every 10 seconds. The effects are excellent. HOWEVER, I had to send it back for a refund because of the harmony algorithm. The harmonies sound good, but the 'fixed' algorithm is too stiff. Example: If you're in the key of G and you sing a 'D' with the harmonizer set at '3rd up' it will generate an F#. That is diatonically correct, but if you're playing a G chord at the time the harmony makes it into a Gmaj7. That stiffness was a deal breaker for me. The 'intelligent' harmony of the VE500 or a TC Helicon Harmony Singer 2 is vastly superior. The VE22 would be good if you specialized in vocal effects with the odd harmony thrown in. If you want harmony with a few effects thrown in look elsewhere.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      This is a real shame as you can edit the harmony into manual mode and you could can dictate and set the harmony interval specifically.

    • @jeimusic08
      @jeimusic08 3 месяца назад

      It was a let down because the design looks intuitive. Guess I'll be staying with my TC Helicon VLP GTX. Still rockin after 11 years.

  • @albertbouwer
    @albertbouwer 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks for the cool review. Currently using the Boss VE-2. Look forward to seeing more reviews on YT of performers using it to beef up the chorus or a section in the song in a subtle way. In addition, the overall improvement in tone, EQ, compression etc to produce a natural but enhanced voice is what I am most interested in.

    • @BarrabasAntipas
      @BarrabasAntipas 5 месяцев назад

      What’s enrenced do ?
      Boss ve 2 have compression ?

  • @tomrivans9102
    @tomrivans9102 8 месяцев назад +2

    It looks like a great pedal. I’ve yet to see it used live on stage. Like most boss stuff I very rarely see live use apart from the classic foot pedals. However like most Boss gear you need to spend time getting to know what it can do. For me a wireless hand button would have been a great idea first a singer instead of searching with your foot.

  • @fasteddie8782
    @fasteddie8782 9 месяцев назад +3

    You are the best teacher... So clear and precise and I can understand everything that you are doing. Thank you so much. So much to learn so little time

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      You are so welcome! Wanna hear all the presets?
      Have a listen here: ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=_lVjlnPB4ZCwRtOr

  • @isaacdust
    @isaacdust 9 месяцев назад +5

    Outstanding review! Thanks for taking the time to show us around this unit.

  • @jeffcharles5858
    @jeffcharles5858 Месяц назад +2

    Wow. 1000Mph, but I caught every bit of it. Incredibly concisce presentation! A shed load of info the shortest possible time. Gotta be an award for that, and you earned it!

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  Месяц назад +1

      😂 yeaaahhh.. and that’s my normal speaking voice too. 🤣 Good thing with RUclips is you can slower the speed of the video.
      I’ll try and slow down as I’m getting this comment a lot these days. I appreciate the feedback and I’ll try to slow it down. 🙏

  • @jamescorbett3039
    @jamescorbett3039 9 месяцев назад +7

    I’d like to see Boss update the VE-8 with a screen like this one with similar features for vocals but with the guitar section.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      My question would be what would you want a new version of VE-8 need a screen like that for?
      (Being Devil's Advocate here hehe)

    • @jamescorbett3039
      @jamescorbett3039 9 месяцев назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK lol yeah. Well it would be easier to navigate the effects and make patches! Anyway thanks to one of your videos I don’t think I’ll need this. Boss Gigcaster now handles all my guitar and vocal effects, except for a tap tempo delay I’ve kept on a small board with my looper). So I’ll probably not need any potential VE-8 upgrade but I think an update with all the usual boss effects with a screen like this one would be a very good product.

  • @iamjarrettdean9358
    @iamjarrettdean9358 9 месяцев назад +56

    It's CRAZY in 2024 that they don't have the chord recognition harmony ability like the TC Helicon pedals that I LOVE. BOSS strikes out AGAIN

    • @89ji76
      @89ji76 9 месяцев назад +7

      It’s in the VE-500.
      Agreed it’s quite a disappointment it didn’t come to this unit tho…

    • @victorhugod387
      @victorhugod387 9 месяцев назад +5

      Boss is way much better than TC Helicon!! But as you said in 2024 no Auto Harmony, it's too much!! No way...

    • @hankpiece
      @hankpiece 9 месяцев назад +13

      I stopped the video and came to the comments to find this one. Not having chord follow means no key changes, no non-diatonic harmonies. It's really limiting

    • @marknoviskie2178
      @marknoviskie2178 9 месяцев назад +2

      Can get it without auto harmony
      To bad

    • @DPG003
      @DPG003 9 месяцев назад +13

      No chord recognition means I can scratch this one off my list. What a waste.

  • @mwc6849
    @mwc6849 23 дня назад

    You can use a midi to trs switcher to control the foot switches. You can send midi commands automatically with a track from the BBeat

  • @jabalajabolindest4852
    @jabalajabolindest4852 9 месяцев назад +5

    Yes the VE 500 is still a better option, in terms of customisation. How's the sound of VE 22 compared to VE 500?

    • @dhikiramandhapoetra
      @dhikiramandhapoetra 9 месяцев назад

      I have used boss ve 500, reach me if want

    • @89ji76
      @89ji76 9 месяцев назад +1

      Knowing Roland/Boss it’s all the same algorithms haha but I’m not sure.
      I’m very satisfied with the sound of my VE-500 but I’m not using drastic effects. Just the sound gooderizer stuff plus reverb

    • @dhikiramandhapoetra
      @dhikiramandhapoetra 9 месяцев назад

      Guys can u help solving my problems, i felt like my boss ve 50, compressing my vocal, even i by-pass all the effect. This can be problems cuz when perform i need to boost the vocal🥺

    • @89ji76
      @89ji76 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@dhikiramandhapoetra is your problem that the vocal seems too quiet? I think I can help with that.
      Go to Menu>Input and adjust the mic sensitivity so your loudest singing barely touches the arrow.
      Then go to Menu>Output and select either Mic or Instrument output. Instrument mode is much louder and may be too much depending on where you’re plugging into. Then adjust the level.
      I’m not sure if I understood you but I don’t think compressing is your problem. I hope this helps 👍

  • @rgeorge9260
    @rgeorge9260 5 месяцев назад +3

    I've seen several comments regarding TC Helicon vs. the BOSS vocal processors. Of course there are A LOT of musicians who are way more familiar with vocal processors than myself! ;) I am not a musician, and don't play an instrument; I sing. I own 3 TC Helicon units, including a VoiceLive 2. Each one requires you to input music , or an instrument to determine the song key for harmonies automatically, OR to allow the "room sense" mic on the unit to "listen" for the music, to determine the key for harmonies automatically (which is not to great if playing in a room where there is some noise, which could confuse the unit). The whole reason I bought the BOSS VE-22 is because it does NOT have to feature to automatically figure out the song key for harmonies. I don't mind setting the song key manually, and intend to have a User setting for each and every song key, as a preset. My TC-Helicon Perform V is simple to use for doubling, reverb, and echo, and it is supposed to allow you to "beam" harmony presets to the unit, but the software needed for my phone will not load! I get a message that I need an older phone! Funny, my phone IS old. I could load the presets with my laptop, but I don't want to lug around a laptop to every gig! Maybe I'll also play around with the VoiceLive 2 some more, and try and run music from my looper directly into the unit, and play with the harmonies. Thanks.

    • @jeffrey.a.hanson
      @jeffrey.a.hanson 5 месяцев назад

      Understand. My VE-2 works with guitar or not. It IS cool to hear it shift when I bring in a 7th chord or something, but often setting the key is best… except it’s impossible to see on the floor lol.
      I might grab one of these to test out for the presets. I broke my wrist so just been singing and keep forgetting to turn that knob to the right key lol. Doublet is fine, but just a light touch of harmony can really make certain parts of a performance come to life.
      I’m just surprised nobody has nailed this. I would love to be a lead designer and work with artists to make this live friendly and more intuitive. As a guitarist, I know that physical switches are easiest and lights that verify exactly what settings are active. I better see the Key bright and center!

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 месяцев назад

      That’s a very interesting take and have only had time today to read it. Thank you for this.
      For singers with backing tracks who want harmonies, one of the best is still the TC-Helicon Voicelive 3 Extreme. Reason is it had an SD card slot for backing tracks but you could also record the pedal presses, meaning that the harmonies and other effects could come on at the right time without you even pressing a pedal! Great for it your no near it on stage! Shame TC-Helicon isn’t what it used to be.

  • @penpen65
    @penpen65 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hi John; is this unit capable of sending only harmony out without melody?

  • @victorhugod387
    @victorhugod387 9 месяцев назад +7

    Without Auto-Harmony?? Honestly I don't understand why Boss in the middle of 2024 does such a thing.
    I had the VE-20, I sold it because It sang outside the tone, I moved to Ve-2 which is the best of all. Even better than VE-500.
    I thought, however, this one, with this wonderful display, would be my new love. But it seems not !! What a pity boss. 😥😥

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a shame and interesting you prefer the VE-2. Is that cause of the way it harmonises?

  • @hz4332
    @hz4332 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks so much for this, I am thinking of replacing my TC helicon voicelive 2 for this as my pedal.

    • @john-r2i5j
      @john-r2i5j 4 месяца назад

      sell me the helicon

  • @of_tend
    @of_tend 5 дней назад +1

    hello ! thx for this amazing review! after watching this i decided to buy this one😂 i have just one question!!
    Does it provide monitoring system in live performance? through its phones/line out ?? if it does, it would be perfect for me 😢

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 дней назад

      you could use the phones and still have the main out going as well so wired monitoring is possible but never even seen the Cloud Vocal before. cool product.
      alternative is this tiny thing: ruclips.net/video/_fjf7_kAUWs/видео.htmlsi=q9guD6ZWjV8FXtgo

  • @TheRoddy12345
    @TheRoddy12345 8 месяцев назад +2

    Really great video ! Thanks
    My question is simple. Is it supplied with power lead ?

  • @zandtussenjetenen
    @zandtussenjetenen 9 месяцев назад +4

    Had the TC helicon.. This seems like a nice unit. I used the effects from the boss gigcaster 8. Did not like it and controls sucked in my opinion. Does This boss have the T-PAIN effect? Sold the boss gigcaster 8. Missed my Mackie DLZ.. Will be delivered today. So maybe This combo will workout nicely.. Regards.. Thanks for all the effort!

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      That’s interesting.
      Would love to hear from you again once you have your DLZ back and this and see how you find it. 😊

  • @JuusoHoo
    @JuusoHoo 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks a lot again! Pity that it has no "auto-Key" and no midi,.... to change the key as a standing guitarist! Maybe with an extra pedal!!? Might just change my RC600 to this....

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      So the way round this is either stay on the same patch and use a pedal to go up and down the key.. or, more simply, program the pedal up so you use more than one of the 99 patches and they have different keys on and use the pedals in the program switch mode to go up and down patches (memories) switching to the pre programmed key. 👍🏻

  • @nitishpurohit4131
    @nitishpurohit4131 Месяц назад +1

    Hey. John thanks for this superb vdo. Does this work equally good for acoustic instruments like Sitar Sarod?

  • @seanpitts792
    @seanpitts792 9 месяцев назад +5

    I have the VE500 and would like to see some updates - they've essentially left it for dead.

    • @ТиКубов
      @ТиКубов 9 месяцев назад

      same here! VE500 is a great machine but what really upsets me is the looper stopping when you change presets. Even V-20 allowed to sing over the loop through any FX!

    • @NicleT
      @NicleT 9 месяцев назад +4

      Boss/Roland often do this. I had the RC50, firmware update were rare. Then I got the RC505 and it has profound MIDI limitations that Boss promises to fixes. They didn't, instead they released the MKII and left us behind. Very frustrating.

    • @ТиКубов
      @ТиКубов 9 месяцев назад

      @@NicleT I really like the looper in Helicon VoiceLive Touch 2. But FX-mangling abilities of VE-500 are much stronger! SO, there is still no perfect chonice...

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns 8 месяцев назад +1

      "Left for dead" is BOSS's motto. When you buy their stuff, never ever expect it to evolve beyond the day you bought it. BOSS makes great products but they never give them the final polish to make the most of them.

  • @MrEagleeye58
    @MrEagleeye58 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just looked through the manual, there is no AUTO KEY function. I wish there was a "KEY" knob like on the Zoom for direct access. For the similar price the Voicelive Touch 2 has auto key from the room sense mic or other input which you can disable.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  6 месяцев назад

      Exactly. The auto key pedal for Boss is the VE-500

  • @marcinkuzborski7118
    @marcinkuzborski7118 8 месяцев назад +2

    Impressive review, great job, thanks!

  • @Rapkholismo
    @Rapkholismo 27 дней назад

    Hey! Amazing video! Lemme ask you something, Im a VE 20 user and I've got a problem with it as I can't or haven't figure out how to use a personalized effect with wich I can use a delay and a double harmony voice sepparatedly, I mean, if I program in one, a delay and a double harmony, I can use delay alone (turning off the harmony pedal) but I can't use the double harmony alone in the same effect without the delay (as the delay only works with ON-OFF/play pedal). That's complicated for my live shows because there are parts in a same songs where I need one and another (combined and for separate). As I understand in this new VE-22 model that problem it's solved as you have a pedal for each one of them (harmony and effect pedals) and you can select to use sepparetedly, right? sorry for my rusty english, you rock!

  • @89ji76
    @89ji76 9 месяцев назад +4

    I still think the VE-500 is the way to go, despite being a bit pricy and a UI nightmare.
    Auto-harmony and MIDI in make it worth the hassle.

    • @BarrabasAntipas
      @BarrabasAntipas 5 месяцев назад

      What’s MIDI ?
      What’s
      This do ?

    • @89ji76
      @89ji76 5 месяцев назад

      @@BarrabasAntipas it stands for musical instrument digital interface. It has so many uses I can’t describe them all in a RUclips comment but one thing I use it for is matching the delay time on my guitar fx and vocal fx

  • @SeanCantorna
    @SeanCantorna 9 месяцев назад

    I'm an acoustic player, and use the VE-20. Why? Because is has the best vocal sound, hard stop. I understand the better display and a bit more versatility in the VE-22. Does it have more/better presets to work with than the VE-20? What specific improvements will I experience during a live performance? It's a big financial jump from one to the other. Great review, and thank you!

  • @michelpoulin4597
    @michelpoulin4597 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the great video. I find the 'memory pedal' and 'manual pedal' functions confusing. If you want to make a video on that I'm sure it would be appreciated!

  • @petergomeskolkata
    @petergomeskolkata 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you John Paul for this amazing informative video. I'm using the Ve20 for the past 12 years.. it's still going strong and gets the job done.
    Should I upgrade to this? Is it worth it?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 месяцев назад

      Have a look at the list of effects on both and make sure you’re not missing anything. 👍🏻

  • @Josev-TV
    @Josev-TV 2 месяца назад +1

    Personally, this is a lot of menu diving and secondary, even thirdierarty functions to keep up with. I know that’s a Boss thing but when I’m playing live, the last thing I want to do is tinker with buttons

  • @Sonaspiper
    @Sonaspiper 9 месяцев назад +2

    I just returned it. It a good machine. Easy to navigate with nice reverb and delay. Enhance and eq options are good. But the harmony just doesn’t work without an instrument in. What a pity.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a shame. It’s a lot of prep to program and get the harmony right without following an Instrument.

    • @GregoryGuay
      @GregoryGuay 6 месяцев назад

      I just use the Boss double/triple voice rather than the harmony but the 'pitch correction', even at 'soft' is a bit wonky. VE22 dynamics and basic tone are amazing though.

  •  7 месяцев назад

    I noticed that effect pedal switch can be set to either momentary or toggle. You said that if you turn off the effect or switch preset, effects won't have tail but they turn on and off immediately, but does it work that way in momentary as well? I'd like to have e.g. delay or huge reverb as momentary for single word and be able to leave it background while singining continues.
    Thanks for great video John!

  • @jeffb5798
    @jeffb5798 9 месяцев назад

    Some things I like: it sounds good, and looks to have a good UX. What I don't like: the ve-22 seems to be primarily suited to using only in the studio, and not live, and only using one patch in a song. IMHO, it looks cool, but not having MIDI, and not seamlessly switching between patches really diminish the product.

  • @murrayhaysom6178
    @murrayhaysom6178 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi JP. Nice Review.
    Is it possible to link the VE-22 with the RC-600, to enable your changing the harmonies in the verse to different harmonies in the chorus as you click between them on the 600?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  7 месяцев назад

      Hey 👋
      Unfortunately I haven’t found a way to do it as there is no midi on the VE-22. It’s like a standalone unit.

  • @evieruth01
    @evieruth01 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ace vlog ! Is this good for a singer in a band that only use two different keys? I wanted it for the dynamics and efx mostly!

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes 👍🏻 100%
      You can have multiple patches and switch between them whilst performing.

  • @garyroberts-spinoutuk4874
    @garyroberts-spinoutuk4874 9 месяцев назад +2

    Just thought what would you choose the TC helicon live vocal player
    Or the boss ve- 22
    I've been waiting over a month for my boss ve- 22 but the store are having problems with Rolland delivery and they have offered the TC helicon with credit left any thoughts on what's best as I gig a lot and need effect s soon as

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      The question is: what do you need out of a pedal? Do you need auto harmony? Do you need midi? Do you need synchronous effects?
      Which TC Helicon are they offering?

  • @byromtaylor6482
    @byromtaylor6482 3 месяца назад

    Boss VE 500 is still my fav one for harmony ....you can link it to a line in - so auito harmony on a backing track or guitar ....only the old tc helicon and this boss ve 500 do that

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the review. Two questions, are the 3 big buttons on the bottom designed to use your foot to trigger them? And can you assign a foot pedal to any of the effects, so for example you want more delay in a certain section of the song you can use a foot pedal to bring that in.

  • @iamjarrettdean9358
    @iamjarrettdean9358 9 месяцев назад +2

    Is it weird that I just watched a video of the Boss VE 8 and it DOES have the chord recognition ability with the harmonies yet this "brand new" 22 unit doesn't? WTF Boss 🙃🤔🙈

  • @TheRoddy12345
    @TheRoddy12345 8 месяцев назад

    Hi and thanks very much for the excellent video !
    I’ve just bought my Boss VE-22 and am enjoying discovering the system !
    I’m trying to replicate a perfect version of the intro in the hit record Wayward Son by Kansas. I am the vocalist in my band and am wondering…..
    1. Obviously I need to start with zero effects etc. (dry) through the mixing desk.
    2. Any bits of advice to get the required effects ???
    Cheers

  • @whatexitband
    @whatexitband 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have the Boss VE-500, VE-20 and now the VE-22. In the previous two, pitch correction is its own block just like Dynamics. In the VE-22, it is under the effects section so it does not appear you can use pitch correction with any other effect such as chorus for example. Is this correct because that almost seems like a step back from the VE-20? Its a shame because I would love to have a subtle pitch correction with the really great chorus sound in the VE-22. Unfortunately i sold my VE-20 and VE-500 right before receiving the new VE-22 unit. Is there a way to use pitch correction and another effect at the same time like you can in the VE-20.

    • @ruffsilk2
      @ruffsilk2 9 месяцев назад

      have you figured out a solution for this yet? its making me hesitant to buy

    • @whatexitband
      @whatexitband 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ruffsilk2 I'm waiting to hear back from my Roland Rep. However, I've tried to figure this out and even from the manual it really looks like Pitch correction is not available as an "always on" option as it was in the previous ve-20. You need to choose it as an effect. This means you cannot use it in conjunction with any other effect. I have actually repurchased a VE-500 for only a few dollars more than the VE-22. I've had the Ve-22 for a few weeks and I'm sending it back. I will be making a video on this issue so people don't get stuck.

  • @mtatini
    @mtatini 8 месяцев назад +2

    I bought a Voicelive back in 2006, 18 years ago, that did NOT have auto harmonies. Yet, you could purchase a separate audio to midi attachment that would make that possible. A year or so later, they came out with the Harmony G-XT, which DID follow the guitar for harmonies. So, 17 years ago. What is wrong with Boss? It's not even a separate anything they have to add to it - just add to the programming. It's a deal breaker to almost ALL musicians I know. Bad move.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  8 месяцев назад +1

      It’s a shame isn’t it. And its predecessor didn’t either and that was a hit! Some people clearly either don’t need it or it’s just not part of what they do?

  • @rgeorge9260
    @rgeorge9260 5 месяцев назад

    Question: do you turn off all basic effects on your mixer (e.g. - reverb and echo), and instead set those basic effects for your mic through the BOSS VE-22? The reason I ask: I'm thinking that if you have effects turned on via your mixer, and then you start using effects via the BOSS VE-22 vocal processor, you might get more than you bargained for (e.g. - hearing your VE-22 effect, impacted some by the effects set on your mixer!). I hope that makes sense. I just got my BOSS VE-22, and am going to start experimenting with it. Thx for the lesson! You're a great teacher! ;)

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  4 месяца назад

      Absolutely! You’re gonna get a double effect or worse double compression which could really lower the sound and reduce the quality.

    • @rgeorge9260
      @rgeorge9260 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK Thank you so much for your response. I'm going to watch your videos again. I'm trying to figure out some things with this device. Man, the directions are voluminous, and printed fairly small (and seem to have been translated from Japanese! ;) ). I want to get the most out of this box.

  • @lorahaskell4472
    @lorahaskell4472 9 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome review of product. 🙌🏻 Thank you, John. 😁

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      My pleasure! Wanna hear all the presets?
      Have a listen here: ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=_lVjlnPB4ZCwRtOr

  • @kentherapy7022
    @kentherapy7022 9 дней назад +1

    Show of sound device from 18 minute of video here: 7:05 - 7:20.....thats all.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 дней назад

      This is the overview.. then there is a live stream and an entire 20 min video with JUST demos -
      20 min Demos: ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=LmhmCHQQEUJnHbdg
      45 min Live stream: ruclips.net/user/liveEi9UZU9xqow?si=azICLtAJQX_khqfB
      Enjoy

  • @jwalms89
    @jwalms89 6 месяцев назад +2

    Such a great review !!

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you 🙏
      Hopefully you will enjoy this next:
      ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=6IY6i_c6fhfbbPDM

  • @ichibandude
    @ichibandude 9 месяцев назад +1

    So it doesn't automatically set harmonizing key with guitars or other other instruments. I guess VE-500 or VoiceLive 3 are still the better options for people who sing and play instruments at the same time. Here in Japan, VE-22 is more expensive, but VE-500 has more functions... Interesting.

  • @Brainfreeze128
    @Brainfreeze128 2 месяца назад

    I’m using the boss ve 20 now. Should I upgrade?

  • @sailingperegrine
    @sailingperegrine 5 месяцев назад +1

    curious on your thoughts - my sing is mediocre at best, fair to poor is more a reality. I'd like to get to the point, while I'll never be a good singer, to get to the point where I can play, sing, and not offend and scare people... basically smooth out my voice, correct pitches and tones a bit. (going to get a few vocal lessons as well) Considering the VE22 or 8, in conjunction with the MIC Mechanic (also would be going into an amp with some chorus and reverb settings that could be used Boss Acoustic). Thoughts? Is there another pedal I can add to help those two?? setting ideas?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  4 месяца назад

      As the risk of a dangerous comment, it totally depends on your own singing ability. a VE-8 and a TC-Helion Mic Mechanic would be good. or the harmony singer 2.
      The VE-22 has these features and maybe its worth a try with one.. just need to make a few presets that sound good for you.

  • @jeffbonzerpeterson
    @jeffbonzerpeterson 9 месяцев назад +1

    It was pretty sad that Boss did not have that pedal at there booth for the 2024 winter NAMM show. More info on U Tube.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting 🤔
      NAMM has certainly changed.

  • @hansdampf6227
    @hansdampf6227 7 месяцев назад +1

    Microphone volume control! I've had the VE 22 for two weeks. At the first rehearsal with the band, the microphone was much too quiet, even though the control was set to 85. Are there other ways to influence the volume?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh really?! And where was the main out?
      Did you do this? ruclips.net/user/shorts1cGVMMZw_ag?si=P4MKXixyzwYWr45P

    • @hansdampf6227
      @hansdampf6227 7 месяцев назад

      First of all, your videos are very helpful, thank you very much for them. I had already seen this one. Up until now I had the VE20. Here the volume was set to 60 and it was always perfect. Can you also adjust the volume of the individual presets? I haven't found it yet?

  • @MikeBlock
    @MikeBlock 8 месяцев назад

    Hey John, amazing videos! Have you been able to get the "Aux In" 3.5mm jack for backing tracks to not just be in the headphones but also in the USB-C mix? Is that even possible?

  • @brucesmusicvideos
    @brucesmusicvideos 4 месяца назад +2

    How do you feel this unit compares to VE500?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  4 месяца назад +1

      The VE-500 is still the top dog for Boss VE range as it has Auto harmonies and also midi.

    • @MB-kx5qs
      @MB-kx5qs Месяц назад

      ​@@JohnPaulMusicUKbetter than the one in this Videos?

  • @sidmazzei
    @sidmazzei 9 месяцев назад +1

    thank you very much for the video!
    This unit have a vocoder robot like effect, like the ve-20?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=IrVzW7F6tsaeEWcE

  • @danpelos
    @danpelos 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great pedal. I have the VE20. BUT I also have the Gigcaster and I 'think' that has pretty much the same effects/processor as this one. Can someone confirm? Thanks.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      Haven’t checked yet but have a look at the parameter guides for both online and cross reference them.

  • @alberto_saxo
    @alberto_saxo 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video! I was wondering if the VE22 has an indicator that shows the battery level? I plan on using it without the power adapter but if it doesnt have a warning system then I'd be better off buying the power adapter

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  6 месяцев назад +1

      So a warning sign comes up on the display showing ‘BATTERY LOW’ meaning that it is in the last part of the battery. The manual or parameter guide doesn’t say when that battery low indicator kicks in.. and can only find it when using phantom power. Would be great to see a percentage. Alkaline batteries will give you the best performance. 6hrs with phantom power and 9hrs without phantom.
      If you are worried then you could always use an external power supply like I use which runs multiple things and lasts for HOURS (and has a battery indicator: ruclips.net/video/8XAbKm71dVo/видео.htmlsi=vqDhCagNPt1lh0Ha

    • @alberto_saxo
      @alberto_saxo 6 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @carlodeluca
    @carlodeluca 9 месяцев назад +1

    How do you change memory up while looping? I saw that it’s possible to press memory down, but the memory up is the same loop button.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes that is the case. The way around this is by getting an FS6 or FS7 external pedal and you can assign that as the looper or as the memory up and down.

  • @larason_oficial
    @larason_oficial 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a question regarding Boss VE-2, I play the accordion and sing so would like to have the ve-2 on a stand up high to where I can change the key knob but was wondering if I can add a pedal to turn on and off since I’ll have the ve-2 up high there for will need a pedal at the bottom or vise versa maybe leave ve-2 on floor and add something to change the key knob 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  7 месяцев назад +1

      So using the new VE-22 you could have that up on your stand and then have something like an FS-6 or FS-7 pedal at your feet plugged into the Footswitch input. That way you can control the key knob and still have control of things at your feet. 👍🏻
      Hope that helps

  • @BibhasMandal73
    @BibhasMandal73 6 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent demo, thanks

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 9 месяцев назад +1

    Where do you set the mic gain? This should be the 1st thing shown and described. I see, there s a knob at the rear for sens.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      Menu > Mic there is a dial for mic sensitivity on the back plus a low and high gain switch.

    • @gibson2623
      @gibson2623 9 месяцев назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK thx man

  • @georgekaton9687
    @georgekaton9687 4 месяца назад +1

    honest question. can i stomp on it like a normal effect pedal?

  • @lostluden8912
    @lostluden8912 Месяц назад

    Is there a way to smoothen the pitch correct. I can still hear the steps instead of gliding to the correct note.

  • @Boissinova
    @Boissinova 4 месяца назад +1

    great vid! does this have autotune for rap vocals? didn’t see it but maybe i missed it.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  4 месяца назад

      Yes. Have a look here: ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=M1RQYPoU6dMlqp9w

  • @jenkityjenks
    @jenkityjenks 5 месяцев назад +1

    Does this have midi functionality so you can change effects during a set?

  • @gabriellaolivo
    @gabriellaolivo 7 месяцев назад

    Hi, thanks for the review. I was wondering if there's a way to put a permanent reverb, even with the "echo" turned off. Like the VE-20 could do....I would love to use the delay effect in a seperate way (it should be in the effects, not in the echo), right now it's impossible as I see and it's kinda of a step back...

  • @jojomensah
    @jojomensah 6 месяцев назад +1

    I want one 😢😢😢. So beautiful.

  • @davidriley3422
    @davidriley3422 9 месяцев назад +2

    Was really hoping this unit had guitar input and /or midi. Without it it, it's a pass. I wanted to upgrade my VE-2, but looks like I'll have to look elsewhere.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      Ever considered the VE-500?

    • @davidriley3422
      @davidriley3422 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK Yep, I did, but I wasn't a fan of the harmonies on it, and didn't like that there was no guitar effects either. If the VE-22 had guitar/midi input I would have snapped it up. Now may go back to looking at old TC Helicon products instead. :/

    • @BarrabasAntipas
      @BarrabasAntipas 5 месяцев назад

      What’s is MIDI

  • @konjunto2477
    @konjunto2477 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can you connect two microphones (with a Y cable) for two different singers, that is one singing first voice and one singing a 3rd above??

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  8 месяцев назад

      Technically you could do that but a couple of issues you might run into.
      1) couldn’t use anything that needs phantom power
      2) unable to use the harmony when both are singing as it will confuse the engine of what to harmonise with but should be okay if one is singing or singing in unison.
      3) certain effects might sound strange
      4) be careful of the input gain and make sure there is a similar volume for each.. different voices can have different volumes.
      5) might be better to put both vocals into a small mixer and then the output of that mixer into the VE-22 - this will help with balance.
      Hope this helps

    • @konjunto2477
      @konjunto2477 8 месяцев назад

      @JohnPaulMusicUK thank you much!

  • @jasminegonzales6661
    @jasminegonzales6661 5 месяцев назад +1

    When I'm on stage, how do I minimize microphone feedback with VE-22?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 месяцев назад

      The Ve-22 has a compressor and also a noise suppressor built in (NS) - the noise suppressor would be the one to play around with so it only lets audio over a certain value / level.
      I would look at that or have a good mic with very good rear rejection. 👍🏻

    • @jasminegonzales6661
      @jasminegonzales6661 5 месяцев назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK Got it! I'll try it out. Thank you so much!

  • @emmanuelcompayanofficial6344
    @emmanuelcompayanofficial6344 9 месяцев назад +2

    I just bought VE 8 now. I don't like the thing that it can't recognize a chord for harmony. I just waited for this for a long time and I'm disappointed.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah the VE range doesn’t look like it’s meant for chord harmony recognition. Shame.

    • @sodiumlights
      @sodiumlights 8 месяцев назад

      I guess you didn't check this video comments. Always best to do a little research before buying gear, real user comments.

  • @jorgeleonel6663
    @jorgeleonel6663 9 месяцев назад +3

    No automatic harmonies based on sensing chords from internal mics. Hard pass for me. TC Helicon VoiceLive still rules.

    • @BarrabasAntipas
      @BarrabasAntipas 5 месяцев назад

      What’s better TC or the Boss VE 2 ?

  • @VJFranzK
    @VJFranzK 6 месяцев назад +1

    Question: Can this fully replace the features of the VT 4? and the E4?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  6 месяцев назад

      What is the VT4 and E4? Sorry.

    • @VJFranzK
      @VJFranzK 6 месяцев назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK They are Roland machines that could be considered prequels. (Roland owns Boss, so a lot of the tech is exchanged)

  • @monasteryintibet
    @monasteryintibet 6 месяцев назад +1

    Any chance this pedal can do vocal distortion like Julian Casablancas from the strokes vocals

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes you can . Have a look at this video of the 50 presets and things like the radio effect has 10 different kinds of radio with distortion - ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=VLCMkoJZrOxrbYN2
      Hope it’s helpful.

  • @igotsomecheese
    @igotsomecheese 9 месяцев назад

    Hi, can you explain how the auto pitch correction works? Does the key of each song your playing have to be programmed into the unit to make it work properly? When I think of "auto", shouldn't it correct it to the best note your singing in instead of having to program every song?

    • @lambdaman3228
      @lambdaman3228 9 месяцев назад

      The "best note your singing in" depends entirely on what key you are in. I really don't think you want chromatic pitch correction.

  • @jeimusic08
    @jeimusic08 3 месяца назад +1

    No chord tracking? What a shame. I think I have to stay with my 11 yr old TCH VLP GTX.

  • @Ross-ze4ny
    @Ross-ze4ny 9 месяцев назад +1

    I mistakenly sold my auto harmony ve2 when got the rc600... Only to find out my assumption was wrong that the auto harmony would be there... Painful

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад

      Arrgghh.. yeah.. the only other way is via midi on the RC600

    • @Ross-ze4ny
      @Ross-ze4ny 9 месяцев назад

      ​​@@JohnPaulMusicUKthanks! How can you use midi in RC600 to create auto harmony vocal effect from a guitar chord???

  • @mariachiarafrijia2210
    @mariachiarafrijia2210 6 месяцев назад

    Hello John!Hello! I connected the ve-22 to the PC after downloading the drivers and installing them, the word updater appeared on the screen and the harmony button flashes blue, is this correct? If I try to start the application on the PC it tells me it can't find the device, can you help me?

  • @jaspersquire5931
    @jaspersquire5931 4 месяца назад +1

    I use a headset mic. I need to be able to mute my signal without a ‘pop’. Can I set up a button to completely mute my signal?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  3 месяца назад +1

      Just been going through the manual and the parameter guide and it doesn’t look like there is a mute option for the buttons, either the main ones or Ctrl 1/2. Shame.

    • @jaspersquire5931
      @jaspersquire5931 3 месяца назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK I bought one and have managed to use the 'Assign' option on a button to reduce output to zero… so a workaround exists. 👍 I’m actually very happy with the unit although I wish I could sync the bpm over midi with my rc5 looper like I do with other FX. Thanks for getting back to me… I appreciate your content.

  • @GregWorzel
    @GregWorzel 9 месяцев назад +1

    When are they going to upgrade the Ve-8?

  • @brendan8233
    @brendan8233 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video thanks. Do you know if an fs7 will toggle between presets. I can only find it goes preset up or down but not both ways. Thanks

  • @brendan8233
    @brendan8233 7 месяцев назад

    Hi again. Would you know how to set the harmony pedal to set tap tempo in manual mode. I can only find a solution for using it this way in memory mode which means you have to switch between modes to set the tap tempo.
    Good luck whiskey song. It’s a winner. Brendan

  • @JerryAulenbach
    @JerryAulenbach 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can it be used through a board’s aux as an effect for multiple channels?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  5 месяцев назад

      So you mean the output of the VE-22 going into another boards AUX? Sure 👍🏻

    • @JerryAulenbach
      @JerryAulenbach 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK Cool, thanks!

  • @gitarreninsel
    @gitarreninsel 9 месяцев назад +1

    Please..BOSS..bring an updade or an new version of VE-8 with better display!!!

  • @Дурдомик-х9ы
    @Дурдомик-х9ы 7 месяцев назад +1

    No any MIDI ports on it? So cool pedal, but not so useful without synchronize😢

  • @danimourinho
    @danimourinho Месяц назад

    can you save/backup your presets or import presets????

  • @wheelr69
    @wheelr69 2 месяца назад +1

    What about the tuning of the vocal?

  • @k.c.simonsen2
    @k.c.simonsen2 4 месяца назад +1

    I was looking for live pitch correction but it doesn't look like this pedal does that...? Of all the effects in this thing.. no pitch correction.

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  4 месяца назад +1

      Correct. If you want that with Boss then have a look at the Boss VE-500

  • @mdsaidrahim
    @mdsaidrahim 23 дня назад +1

    Is it durable enough for stepping on?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  23 дня назад

      Absolutely yes. 👍🏻

    • @mdsaidrahim
      @mdsaidrahim 23 дня назад

      But it doesn't have a guitar input like my VE-2. I don't think I can use this

  • @Aptmusicuk
    @Aptmusicuk 9 месяцев назад +2

    Will this replace your tc Helicon Jp ?

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  9 месяцев назад +3

      No as I personally need a guitar auto harmony.. but it’s a fab piece of kit and ANYONE who is happy with the VE-20 then this is a no brainer!! Would LOVE to see the VE-500 upgraded with this screen, buttons and 32-bit with USB-C. 🤯

    • @Aptmusicuk
      @Aptmusicuk 9 месяцев назад

      Yes good point looks a decent bit of kit though, great Video 💪👏

  • @PROPHETSCHOOLTV
    @PROPHETSCHOOLTV 2 месяца назад

    Does this pedal loop guitar as well ?

  • @ThisLifeCompany
    @ThisLifeCompany 9 месяцев назад +1

    Frustrating there's no way to extend the tails when switching... Very important

  • @jasminegonzales6661
    @jasminegonzales6661 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can I use it with a wireless microphone? Sorry im new to this

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  6 месяцев назад

      Yes you can. If your mic is wireless, it should have a receiver. You would plug that into the VE-22

    • @jasminegonzales6661
      @jasminegonzales6661 6 месяцев назад

      @@JohnPaulMusicUK Thank you 🥰

  • @garyroberts-spinoutuk4874
    @garyroberts-spinoutuk4874 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for Information big help

  • @julianneradford6332
    @julianneradford6332 9 месяцев назад +1

    Is there an octave change option? IE drop down to bari

  • @mazilys
    @mazilys 4 месяца назад

    A good production bloke once told me, don’t use anything that starts with a B. Working out so far

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  3 месяца назад

      Well that’s one production blokes opinion.
      Fair enough. I quite like my Boss Loopers and my Bed and Butter on my Bread. Also my house would be a mess if I didn’t use my Bin. 🤣

  • @jeffbonzerpeterson
    @jeffbonzerpeterson 9 месяцев назад +1

    They said the where show casing the 50th anniversary guitar pedals. 🤷🏽

  • @TheTMontgomery
    @TheTMontgomery 7 месяцев назад

    Can you compare with the VE 8 as a footnote

  • @samuelrp8093
    @samuelrp8093 7 месяцев назад +2

    Is it can be use at studio??

  • @burridoproduccionesencasa1074
    @burridoproduccionesencasa1074 7 месяцев назад +1

    I don't understand why they dont set an autotune or hard tune section :(...

    • @JohnPaulMusicUK
      @JohnPaulMusicUK  7 месяцев назад

      Have a look at the pitch correction on there and you can save presets - here are the 50 it comes with : ruclips.net/video/H_RZWGO4q4s/видео.htmlsi=7vGD7PY6wp-9TckL

  • @deadkemper
    @deadkemper 13 дней назад

    I just realised you look like Anthony Hopkins !