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Glad to know others had an issue with the mix & master on this record. My biggest issue is the drums, especially the snare. Compressed to hell and lacking character.
Yeah but if you do that its basically impossible to reproduce live. If you only have one guitarist in a band id always have a touring guitsrist as well though. It massively improved nirvana live
I was listening to When We Were Young through headphones and it sounds like the bottom end totally drops out in the chorus. Very strange. The biggest distraction to me in the album’s production is the overuse of drum samples. Some of those fast sixteenth note fills on the snare drum sound really midi-y. I appreciate that Travis wanted to take ownership in producing the album but I can’t help but feel like a professional full-time producer/mixer would have helped the album.
Yeah I agree about the samples and snare fills. Though they did have "professional mixers" mix the album, it wasn't like Travis mixed it himself, haha.
The first big drum fill in anthem part 3 is pretty annoying with the samples. Being a drummer myself I feel like the toms just sound totally fake like someone else said, more like midi drums
I had no problems hearing the vocals, but I appreciate this effort, just like I appreciate Orion by Metallica with the bass boosted. It’s a great addition by someone that loves the music and therefore adds something enjoyable or even great. Nice :)
Especially ‘Edging’ it sounds like Blink’s team used a lot of tape saturation plugins or distortion like Sound Toys ‘Decapitator’ but enough not to ‘over cook’ it.
I think you may be referring to the music video version. That just got messed up either in the edit or through uploading. The album version doesn't have all that distortion on it.
If they wanted to hide it, I think they'd have done a better job pitch correcting it in the first place 🤣 Just sounds like they ran the vocals through Auto-Tune with the retune speed all the way up, haha!
I think that's mostly the distortion effect they're using (though it is tuned too). It sounds similar to the one Willow used in "Transparent Soul" that Travis also featured on. It's always really overt and a bit overkill in my opinion - the sound of distortion I mean.
Have you listened to it via cd? My cd sounds so much better then my iTunes download, i put the cd on my computer and synced it to my iphone and it a lot more clearer then itunes one, assuming thats down to streaming services using their crappy dolby audio or apple digital mastering
I'm in the minority and I liked the mix for the most part. And a few songs I think the drums are pretty overpowering and coincidentally those are the songs I think are weaker. It's probably a combo of the poor mix and Travis's aggressive playing when not needed.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise agreed. I think 80% of fans didn’t notice the mix and jumped on this band wagon to act like they know something about music production 😂😂
@@SugarpillProd Please, do it! At least a link in a comment lol.. people post thousands of different versions to blink songs in multiple platforms, I don't think you'd have a problem with that. And we need it!
I like where this was going, now I feel like a cross between these results and the actual album would be perfect; reduce the gain/distortion but don’t make it too clean, reduce the drum track audio a little bit, redo the EQ on the tom drums because they sound like cardboard, then you’d have something that sounds closer to the mix of TOYPAJ
I think it's just the sound they wanted for the record, for one reason or another. It's pretty uniform throughout each mix - apart from Edging, which was mixed by Ghenea and sounds like it was done way before the rest of the album was completed.
Yeah they definitely do! It doesn't help that most of the guitars just sound like high-end fizz, haha. I thought the Feldmann era was going to be the worst blink's production ever got, but now I'm kinda missing his sound 🤣
I think some of the songs, it was necessary to bury them in the mix a bit, and it’s because some of the vocals are over processed, like childhood sounded better on the album than in this video. But why? Im not sure why on some songs the vocals sound solid and then on some it’s like they couldn’t record the vocal chops correctly? Was the autotune and processing just necessary at a certain point with some songs? I wonder.
@@SugarpillProd There is no real difference between this and the original recordings, it's like Swifties trying to justify the 'Taylor's Version' of her albums.
Even when just "Edging" was out as a single I didn't like the overkill of distortion on EVERYTHING. Don't hate the album and they are going to do whatever they want lol but I do think it is a little overkill with that most of the time
Have you only heard the music video version? That it super distorted, I assume because of some error either during the video editing process, or just from uploading it to RUclips. The actual album version of Edging doesn't have any overt distortion on it - though I think the mix really sticks out on the record as the drums aren't nearly as overcooked, compared to the rest of the track list. You can tell that it was mixed way before they really had the album sound nailed down.
@@SugarpillProd oh ok. I’ve only given the full album a once over (except for Bad News) and skipped Edging since I’ve heard it enough times haha. I’ll have to go back and give it another listen. Thats really good to know! Thank you
@@SugarpillProd The reason Edging sounds like it's mixed better is it was mixed by Serban Ghenea, a legendary pop mixing engineer. It's the only track on the album that he mixed.
@@onehitwonderland I'm not sure if I'd say better. The drums are definitely less overcooked, but the guitars sound better in most of the other songs, imo. But because of how different the drums hit in Serban's mix, it sounds kinda timid in the tracklist. Especially after your ears have been assaulted by the past 8 songs 🤣
Blink's albums were never known for their upfront-mixed vocals tbf. It's not that different than something like Enema where the vocals are there but sometimes get a little drowned out by everything else
Enema is very not upfront. Maybe a couple of songs have more upfront vocals, but overall they're quite buried. Listen to Going Away To College at around 1:50-2:00. Mark's vocals are quite buried. Also on songs like Wendy Clear and the last chorus of Dysentery Gary, you can hear how laid back the vocals are in the mix.@@SugarpillProd
@@SugarpillProd oh ok! Man I really want to hear this record remastered it’s crushed to hell!! It hits like -3LUFS on some songs it’s ridiculous!! I want to get ahold of the vinyl versions that are not mastered so damn loud!
Aside from having a different producer remixing the album, another improve it is by removing around 8 or 9 of the songs altogether. 17 songs just screams "nobody said no to whatever Mark or Tom came up with"
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that two are basically joke songs, and another is an interlude - so I don't really see them as proper songs. Though it is all just filler at the end of the day. The album could have easily been 10-12 tracks.
I’d agree with both of you except knowing Travis he’d have cut all the good songs and left all the rubbish…also I keep hearing that it’s too many songs but I like the back half more than the front personally and it’s not like the album is long so who cares
Childhood is such a great song and they blew it but doing the vocals like that. I cant listen to that anymore. It was good for like 5 times and then it became grating.
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One More Time is Blink's Death Magnetic. Good album, horribly compressed. Some tracks have lost all dynamics
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This is a fucking fantastic take oh my god😂
And it was produced by Rick Ruben and mix.
This makes sense actually
I think that the drums should have the volume turned down by 10%. Guitars and bass increased by 20% and vocals increased by 10%. Something like that.
guitar and bass is fine, its just that they're too compressed and poorly EQ'd which makes the vocals buried.
@@koppy82bass probably should be louder
All I could think on my first listen was how loud the drums were. Feels like the entire track is drums sometimes
Yeah you can barely hear the bass in the og mix@@RyansGuitars
Particularly feel that in edging thr guitars are way too low
Great mix, can you release your version of the album ?
Glad to know others had an issue with the mix & master on this record. My biggest issue is the drums, especially the snare. Compressed to hell and lacking character.
Think it's been the biggest critic of the album so far. At least from what I've seen online.
@@SugarpillProdThe question is, are the blink guys aware though? Otherwise next album might be rinse and repeat.
Besides the vocals, im also missing some guitars, like a wall of guitars in some points, you know?!
Yeah but if you do that its basically impossible to reproduce live. If you only have one guitarist in a band id always have a touring guitsrist as well though. It massively improved nirvana live
@@Ukraineaissance2014They did it on the untitled album
Missing Jerry Finn magic, that's the reason.
This is the only album I have in which I have to turn on Audio Normalization in Spotify. As much as I love this album it hurts my god damned ears
Please don't let Travis take ownership in production next time.
Please upload a fixed version of the entire album 🙏
finally i could hear that is tom who does the backing vocal on bad news
I was listening to When We Were Young through headphones and it sounds like the bottom end totally drops out in the chorus. Very strange. The biggest distraction to me in the album’s production is the overuse of drum samples. Some of those fast sixteenth note fills on the snare drum sound really midi-y. I appreciate that Travis wanted to take ownership in producing the album but I can’t help but feel like a professional full-time producer/mixer would have helped the album.
Yeah I agree about the samples and snare fills. Though they did have "professional mixers" mix the album, it wasn't like Travis mixed it himself, haha.
The first big drum fill in anthem part 3 is pretty annoying with the samples. Being a drummer myself I feel like the toms just sound totally fake like someone else said, more like midi drums
Take off your pants and jacket has the best production of any of blinks albums in my opinion
@@rosssteak4277 Agreed. It’s my favorite album of theirs, musically and sonically.
@@nbctheoffice I'm just on the Take off your pants and jacket train. my fav album as well!
I honestly like both versions, blink-182 is so cool!! I like the produced and the "rough" songs. So great, in my opinion.
I had no problems hearing the vocals, but I appreciate this effort, just like I appreciate Orion by Metallica with the bass boosted. It’s a great addition by someone that loves the music and therefore adds something enjoyable or even great.
Nice :)
Just proof this album needed to be properly produced and mixed.
Didn't Travis Barker Kardashian do the production??
Now you're just double proving my point
@@njlwag he's not too bad, he produced Kennyhopla songs i believe and others.
You mean the guy whose vocals are so blown out and redlined that you can't understand any of the vocals?
Thanks for continuing to prove my point haha.
@@njlwag ha, no problem
Especially ‘Edging’ it sounds like Blink’s team used a lot of tape saturation plugins or distortion like Sound Toys ‘Decapitator’ but enough not to ‘over cook’ it.
I think you may be referring to the music video version. That just got messed up either in the edit or through uploading. The album version doesn't have all that distortion on it.
@@SugarpillProd oh interesting. I’m going to have to listen to it now.
I really hate this mix of this album. And the drums sound horrible on it also.
Woah! I can actually understand the words on “turn this off”!
i just read the lyrics yesterday and i laughed my ass off😂 didn’t realize how funny they are
Great Job man! The production is really strange on the album. Great songs - challenging production.
blink 182's new album but the drums are 2x too loud and the guitars are single-tracked
they wanted to hide the pitch correction lmao
If they wanted to hide it, I think they'd have done a better job pitch correcting it in the first place 🤣 Just sounds like they ran the vocals through Auto-Tune with the retune speed all the way up, haha!
I think that autotune in childhood, specificaly in the chorus its working like an effect
I think that's mostly the distortion effect they're using (though it is tuned too). It sounds similar to the one Willow used in "Transparent Soul" that Travis also featured on. It's always really overt and a bit overkill in my opinion - the sound of distortion I mean.
Drums way too loud in the actual album version. Never get a drummer to produce
i cant belive that i've listened more than you know alredy so much that my brains captions it like an old blink song
My god this is so much better
Yeah, I like both but this gives me old school blink-182 vibes, and I'm all for it!!
This sounds great!
This is Travis album feat. Tom & Mark
It's the "_ _ and Travis show".
Have you listened to it via cd? My cd sounds so much better then my iTunes download, i put the cd on my computer and synced it to my iphone and it a lot more clearer then itunes one, assuming thats down to streaming services using their crappy dolby audio or apple digital mastering
Agreed. Especially compared to Spotify as well
Just me that could hear the albums vocals fine on the original 🤷♂️
I'm in the minority and I liked the mix for the most part. And a few songs I think the drums are pretty overpowering and coincidentally those are the songs I think are weaker. It's probably a combo of the poor mix and Travis's aggressive playing when not needed.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise agreed. I think 80% of fans didn’t notice the mix and jumped on this band wagon to act like they know something about music production 😂😂
I finally can hear the fuckin guitar
This mix is just overpowering vocals. Clearly not what Travis wanted
Somebody compressed it weirdly. Pretty sure it wasnt travis as that sort of post production is somebody elses job generally.
i would love a tutorial on how to get that raspy, kinda distorted voice effect on Childhood
We need a version without pitch corrected vocals
I hate how loud the drums are in the album
Badly mixed, Travis had to much input on this one
Travis didn't mix it lol
@@eggybread.Like I said, badly mixed, and Travis had too much input, if you think otherwise you're a fool.
@@nightvisionmovie I agree the drums don't sound great, but Travis had no say in how loud they turned out in the end
Travis had the only say@@eggybread.
Is there any way to get the full album like this? Its so much cleaner and more lively sounding
I mean I could run them all through the same chain, but not sure what the legalities of sharing the entire album like that would be 🤣
@@SugarpillProdI really like it lol...could you maybe share some insight on what you did? Thanks
@SugarpillCovers do it anyways! Please!
@@SugarpillProdcould you share the secret privately? Plz?
@@SugarpillProd Please, do it! At least a link in a comment lol.. people post thousands of different versions to blink songs in multiple platforms, I don't think you'd have a problem with that. And we need it!
I can hear the vocals 🤷🏻♂️
Waiting for Other Side
That was the first thing I thought when I played the album. Vocals were lost in the mix
🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I like where this was going, now I feel like a cross between these results and the actual album would be perfect; reduce the gain/distortion but don’t make it too clean, reduce the drum track audio a little bit, redo the EQ on the tom drums because they sound like cardboard, then you’d have something that sounds closer to the mix of TOYPAJ
Ehhh not as good…
Maybe theyjust listened to it over and over and ended up getting the mix wrong to ear fatigue
I think it's just the sound they wanted for the record, for one reason or another. It's pretty uniform throughout each mix - apart from Edging, which was mixed by Ghenea and sounds like it was done way before the rest of the album was completed.
this is boxcar racer,angels and airwaves song..in their new album..aowsome tom delonge..😂
Definitely the worst modern trend in music - every single voice gets "digitized" and sounds so fake. The imperfection makes art beautiful.
Cash in Blink-182 album. Did the AI mixed their original album or is this just rushed to relase. Even with your masters edit songs sounding weird.
you can tell the voices still got too much effects on the original, still, much better album than the emo pop autotune mess that Nine was
I feel like I can't hear the guitar at all on the album, the drums drown out everything
Yeah they definitely do! It doesn't help that most of the guitars just sound like high-end fizz, haha. I thought the Feldmann era was going to be the worst blink's production ever got, but now I'm kinda missing his sound 🤣
@@SugarpillProd ikr! production wise California and NINE are miles better. Never let a drummer produce lmao
I think some of the songs, it was necessary to bury them in the mix a bit, and it’s because some of the vocals are over processed, like childhood sounded better on the album than in this video. But why? Im not sure why on some songs the vocals sound solid and then on some it’s like they couldn’t record the vocal chops correctly? Was the autotune and processing just necessary at a certain point with some songs? I wonder.
Can you un process the drums aand make then sound real. Love the new album but the drums are over produced
I wouldve liked this record if you mixed it
I'd have butchered it too 🤣
@@SugarpillProd nah lol, you do the big guitar sound approach and I like that shit lol
Be great if you could host this somewhere, it fixes all my issues with the new record (sorry Travis)
Better mix, but still a bad album
have you heard of the blasting room studios? their punk production sound style is rly great like on the newest frenzal rhomb albums.
Of course! I love the sound of any record that Bill Stevenson or Jason Livermore have worked on.
It’s a good mix but the vocals are like 5-10% to low.
*too
I could already hear the vocals properly, what point are you trying to make?
Wasn't specifically directed at you, lol.
@@SugarpillProd There is no real difference between this and the original recordings, it's like Swifties trying to justify the 'Taylor's Version' of her albums.
@@Big4ofThrash How are they not different? They're literally re-recording everything from the ground up.
Sounds the same to me
i think turpentine and more than you know benefits from that rough original sound but the rest sounds better
Was just about to say the same thing. Yes, those two songs are cool like that. But the rest ... yeah, I wish this album was mixed/produced better.
Thank you! ❤
mix in childhood sucks so bad cause overall the song has insane potential and i can see what it was going for
I was getting Twenty One Pilots vibes from it personally, just not done as well, haha.
When Tom sings "Where did our childhood go?" It pierces my ears. It's the same thing that happened with Death Magnetic.
Even when just "Edging" was out as a single I didn't like the overkill of distortion on EVERYTHING. Don't hate the album and they are going to do whatever they want lol but I do think it is a little overkill with that most of the time
Have you only heard the music video version? That it super distorted, I assume because of some error either during the video editing process, or just from uploading it to RUclips. The actual album version of Edging doesn't have any overt distortion on it - though I think the mix really sticks out on the record as the drums aren't nearly as overcooked, compared to the rest of the track list. You can tell that it was mixed way before they really had the album sound nailed down.
@@SugarpillProd oh ok. I’ve only given the full album a once over (except for Bad News) and skipped Edging since I’ve heard it enough times haha. I’ll have to go back and give it another listen. Thats really good to know! Thank you
@@SugarpillProd The reason Edging sounds like it's mixed better is it was mixed by Serban Ghenea, a legendary pop mixing engineer. It's the only track on the album that he mixed.
@@onehitwonderland I'm not sure if I'd say better. The drums are definitely less overcooked, but the guitars sound better in most of the other songs, imo. But because of how different the drums hit in Serban's mix, it sounds kinda timid in the tracklist. Especially after your ears have been assaulted by the past 8 songs 🤣
I'm confused...the vocals are clear in the original...Do I have superhuman hearing?
I'm also confused I feel like these feel way too clean like the instrumental is almost too low
Not gonna lie, I much prefer the original versions
It would be more weird if you didn't, lol.
Blink's albums were never known for their upfront-mixed vocals tbf. It's not that different than something like Enema where the vocals are there but sometimes get a little drowned out by everything else
I disagree. Everything they did with Jerry and beyond has always had a very upfront vocal sound, at least to my ears.
Enema is very not upfront. Maybe a couple of songs have more upfront vocals, but overall they're quite buried. Listen to Going Away To College at around 1:50-2:00. Mark's vocals are quite buried. Also on songs like Wendy Clear and the last chorus of Dysentery Gary, you can hear how laid back the vocals are in the mix.@@SugarpillProd
@@reddoo8936 Honestly I don't hear it, but to each their own.
New headphones might not be a bad idea then@@SugarpillProd
@@reddoo8936 Or maybe people hear things differently? Wild take I know, but it's a possibility.
Where’s the content on the new Green Day stuff?! Please and thank you. 😂
Huh is this a remixed version or remastered or what? If so how did you get ahold of the multitracks?
Neither lol, I was just messing about with the stereo image.
@@SugarpillProd oh ok! Man I really want to hear this record remastered it’s crushed to hell!! It hits like -3LUFS on some songs it’s ridiculous!! I want to get ahold of the vinyl versions that are not mastered so damn loud!
Aside from having a different producer remixing the album, another improve it is by removing around 8 or 9 of the songs altogether. 17 songs just screams "nobody said no to whatever Mark or Tom came up with"
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that two are basically joke songs, and another is an interlude - so I don't really see them as proper songs. Though it is all just filler at the end of the day. The album could have easily been 10-12 tracks.
I’d agree with both of you except knowing Travis he’d have cut all the good songs and left all the rubbish…also I keep hearing that it’s too many songs but I like the back half more than the front personally and it’s not like the album is long so who cares
Are you fucking serious? You wanted them to release LESS songs?!
I'd rather have 10 solid songs than 20 mediocre ones, haha.
@@SugarpillProd but we DID get 10 solid songs + more. I think they knocked it outta the park with this album.
Childhood is such a great song and they blew it but doing the vocals like that. I cant listen to that anymore. It was good for like 5 times and then it became grating.