Cody return was highly speculated. It was only the matter of “is he going to be AEW Cody Rhodes”. CM Punk returning was insane. Even tho it was heavily speculated, the no non-compete clause and the fact that CM Punk coming back to the place he bashed for close to a decade, made his return an actual shock.
@@austinb9732I actually think it’s just harder to do in person lol. They make pretty decent superchats/donations on PLE streams and QM used to bring in loads and loads. It could also be done from home with very little added overhead cost and arguably better presentation. Doing it every other Wednesday or Thursday they’d have basically no wrestling or wrestling livestream competition so they’d draw decent to good viewership… I think money wise it makes more sense than some of the other current PFK/WT shows, but that’s just my opinion
@user-tg2cv8gh5l what, the guy who got fired for sexual misconduct, and activly burned bridges for the company? No I think I'm good with him being gone actually
I’m surprised no one mentioned Triple H in 2002; the double denim was such a bold look MJF paid homage to it and it was awesome Edit: let’s not forget Bobby Lashley battering Goldberg’s son at 2021, an all-timer moment
They are still smoothing out the edges but you’re so right about Luke/Dan. Tempest isn’t enough of a bulldog to keep them on task, and sometimes they just devolve into the podcast format and forget they’re debating. It’s a hot mess but I’m here for it
For me, it's Cody. Ever since he returned, he has main evented 3 nights of mania. He won back to back rumbles. He dethroned the longest reigning champ of the modern era. He has been the top merch seller for 3 straight years, and I don't see it changing anytime soon. So in terms of the impact, it is Cody.
To me, Roman shouldn't even be in the conversation, not only was it expected, but also it hadn't even been a long time. Roman should have been replaced for Edge.
Edge's return in 2020 beats all 3 of these For 9 years it seemed like Edge wrestling was a dream. Theres no way anyone could argue CM "I burned a bridge and need cash" Punk, Cody "I deserve to be the main character" Rhodes, and Roman "Yall couldnt hold up this company while i was gone" Reigns, had better returns that Edge coming back from a career ending injury
I don't see how Roman is in the conversation .. he left for 4 months, everyone knew he was just taking a break, his return is no different then the 100s of other returns that have happened over the years due to a hiatus. Really surprised that none of them picked Edge's return.
Bloodline was the catalyst for WWE towering over AEW. Have you forgotten how must watch Smackdown was when Sami and Bloodline were getting going. That was when WWE started feeling Ucey
Roman Reigns had a better return at SummerSlam 2020 then he did at SummerSlam 2024. CM Punk has a good return so far and definitely a more shocking one, however it's the greatest out of the three because he went to AEW. If that never happened prior to his return at Survivor Series last year I'd say it's one of the greatest returns of all time. Cody Rhodes returned at WrestleMania 38 is the best out of the three despite it being spoiled in advance because he wasn't just former WWE superstar Cody Rhodes, he was former WWE superstar turned indie wrestler who co-founder of AEW and left the alternative promotion he helped create Cody Rhodes who return to WWE at WrestleMania.
Edge was good and motivated a lot of people, but i feel the one that meant the most was Bray. Seeing Bray back was a healing moment against the BS of the Vince Era. It was a moment when we felt Triple H really took over and we could all breathe a sigh of relief. It wasn't just for us but for Bray too. Remember that promo afterward when he poured out his heart. And now think about how that motivated Taylor to form the Wyatt Sicks, and how we all popped when Shatter was played again earlier this week. Edge was good, but Bray sent a message that there was light at the end of the tunnel. And when everything went dark, that someone could pick up the lantern and keep going.
I don't really count Roman as a "return". Like it was part of the storyline that he was away and there was no real doubt that he was coming back. I think a return has to be from injury, retirement, or working for a different company.
i would have fought for Bray Whyatt even if it didn't amount to the greatest run the return and the smackdown promo alone were so powerful i can't watch that promo without crying
Hi guys! Does anyone know if this is in audio form on Spotify? I like listening to the reviews while I'm at work and this one sounds like fun to listen to as well! Thanks!
Dan had Summerslam 2002 on his side & still found a way to lose!?! All he had to do was go down the card...Eddie, Edge, Kurt, Rey, RVD, He who cannot be named. My God, how did he fumble the dub?
Roman doesn't count as a WWE return. He didn't leave WWE, he was still under contract. When people say a WWE return usually it's someone who left the company and then came back. Not someone who lost that WrestleMania and healed up for a little bit.
Cody Rhodes wasn’t even the best WrestleMania return to happen in the middle of a card in the last decade. The Hardys’ return at WM33 was insane. It has to be CM Punk, Edge at the Rumble in 2020, Rumble John Cena, or Double Denim Triple H.
I can think of 2 reasons. 1) The year 1995 was a bad year in general. 2) The main event was Diesel vs. Mable for the Wwf title. That was notable where Mable injured Diesel's back.
Loving this new series! Wrestletalk at the moment are on fire with their videos. Between this, the deep dives at the weekends, now the the GM mode has finished i can binge watch the series. The news episodes have been great as well. I do miss some familiar faces (Sat and Andy in particular) and the Smackdown podcast is a miss but can understand you guys need some time off. Also the NRB and Chaotic Neutral channels are amazing as well. I've fallen behind on a lot of content the last couple of months but i have a lot of time off coming up soon. Gonna ve binge watching like crazy. Also at the end of the month i am looking into Patreon for you guys. I spend so much of my times watching all your content and would be list without it. Also depending on money id live to contribute to the kickstarter for the new D&D season on Chaotic Neutral. If anyone hasn't given NRB or CN a bash, go there right now!
If you guys take suggestions, I think the best baby faces in wrestling history. I was thinking Sting, Steamboat, Rey, Bryan, Becky, Cody, etc. There are a lot of options.
1:43 Tempest Im surprised you didnt put in our fellow Canadian EDGE the RATED R SUUUUUUUPERSTAR. Out of these 3 I would say Punk though just because of the history. When AEW came around I remember talking to my friend "oh maybe Punk can come back tto wrestling now that theres another major company" and he didnt believe me. Now hell has frozen over (Punk returning to wrestling via AEW) then reheated AND FROZE OVER AGAIN BY PUNK RETURNING TO WWE!!!! Punk himself has said that he probably wouldnt be back if Vince was still there but he's not and Punk is AND LET'S EFFING GO! Punk vs Cody PLEASE.
To add to Dan's defense: CM Punk returning to wrestling and WWE were 2 different things. When Punk left WWE, even though he did other things like MMA, there was still the anticipation from fans that "Oh, when will Punk return to wrestling?" And I feel like during those years, Punk wanted a huge platform to make his return. However, the biggest platform by a large margin back then was still WWE. And to nobody's surprise, when AEW started, one of, if not, the biggest question was "When will AEW hire Punk?" The whole "CM Punk return to wrestling being the best Punk return" only hinges on the fact that we haven't seen Punk wrestle for 7 years BUT the possibility of that happening within those 7 years was always there. It was slim but not entirely impossible. Punk returning to WWE, however, was one of the remaining TRUE never-gonna-happen scenarios in the entirety of pro wrestling because of the nasty relationship between the two parties. Even when HHH took over, there was still no way in hell that those 2 will have a conversation about a return. But they made it happen and within a matter of days no less. The whole argument of "Punk was a sellout" is entirely irrelevant because it didn't affect the whole REALITY that Punk returned to the very place that treated him like trash all those years ago. When Punk returned at Survivor Series, a lot of people were saying that "I can't believe we live in the timeline where Punk is in WWE again." But him "returning to wrestling" was only a matter of time.
13:01 Dan, are you really trying to say CM Punk’s return was less speculated/“knew it was coming” than Cody Rhodes’?! Let’s all rewind 9 months and reflect on Punk’s return. Do you not remember the world collectively going nuts because Survivor Series was in the All-State Arena in Punk’s hometown? My point is..all three of your guys’ nominations were at least somewhat telegraphed. Everyone predicted the Roman return, everyone predicted the Punk return, and everyone predicted Cody’s return. I don’t think, Dan, that your argument (in this portion of the video) is valid. Punk’s return might not be as unique as you might remember.
Luke really is a paradox. He will make a valid good argument like Codys return being one of the biggest of all time, and rightfully loose his shii when Dan and oli down play it, then he'll turn and say something stupid like punks return to wwe wasnt a nuclear pop. I get that his AEW return is a bigger pop but wtf? How can you rightfully say that this wasnt a nuclear pop when it was?
Honestly, Mr. Perfect's rumble return in the Rumble (along with several other rumble returns) was bigger and better than Roman's. As for Punk? Be honest: this wasn't his best return and you KNOW it.c
The best return was Hogan in 2002. The run after has mixed results, but absolutely no one has gotten the ovations that Hogan got in those first few months, not even Punk.
Luke is absolutely right here. Are the other two guys insane or something? There is an objectively right answer to this question, and it's Cody Rhodes.
Hey, since the Borderlands movie is coming out this week, I wondered if NRB ever played any Borderlands board games? Bunkers & Badasses, Torgue's game, Tiny Tina's tea party....
I love Roman, but he was only gone for four months, and everyone knew it was coming.
Punk and Cody had far bigger implications for their returns.
Cody return was highly speculated. It was only the matter of “is he going to be AEW Cody Rhodes”.
CM Punk returning was insane. Even tho it was heavily speculated, the no non-compete clause and the fact that CM Punk coming back to the place he bashed for close to a decade, made his return an actual shock.
and Roman made a return every 4 weeks during his championship reign, so..
I don’t care if you have to have a different host, but bring back quiz mania PLEASE
Tempest to host it... Give the others a chance 😂
Like theyve been talking on the main channel some things just arent profitable to do with current yt
@@austinb9732I actually think it’s just harder to do in person lol. They make pretty decent superchats/donations on PLE streams and QM used to bring in loads and loads. It could also be done from home with very little added overhead cost and arguably better presentation. Doing it every other Wednesday or Thursday they’d have basically no wrestling or wrestling livestream competition so they’d draw decent to good viewership… I think money wise it makes more sense than some of the other current PFK/WT shows, but that’s just my opinion
Or just bring back the old guy
@user-tg2cv8gh5l what, the guy who got fired for sexual misconduct, and activly burned bridges for the company? No I think I'm good with him being gone actually
The biggest return to me has to be John cena at the royal rumble after having surgery
17:55
I love how this show is uncensored 😂
Luke Owen swearing genuinely caught Me off guard 🤣
I’m surprised no one mentioned Triple H in 2002; the double denim was such a bold look MJF paid homage to it and it was awesome
Edit: let’s not forget Bobby Lashley battering Goldberg’s son at 2021, an all-timer moment
Edge rumble, enough said
I can't agree because he didn't win which only matters to me because he won the next year.
Edge in 2020. Dude came back from literally being medically disqualified for 9 years. That beats any return, hands down.
Niche reference, but this feels so much like Screen Junkies' old Movie Fights. Luke is already this shows Dan Murrell 😆
They are still smoothing out the edges but you’re so right about Luke/Dan. Tempest isn’t enough of a bulldog to keep them on task, and sometimes they just devolve into the podcast format and forget they’re debating. It’s a hot mess but I’m here for it
Would love to see a debate on greatest catchphrase!
For me, it's Cody. Ever since he returned, he has main evented 3 nights of mania. He won back to back rumbles. He dethroned the longest reigning champ of the modern era. He has been the top merch seller for 3 straight years, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
So in terms of the impact, it is Cody.
To me, Roman shouldn't even be in the conversation, not only was it expected, but also it hadn't even been a long time. Roman should have been replaced for Edge.
Predictable doesn't mean bad, and even with the rumors around Edge 2020 it was a bit predictable, but I agree Edge was better than Roman.
My pick for greatest return is either Edge in 2020 or Punk in 2023. Cody in 2022 is pretty close too
Hope u guys put these videos out as audio podcasts as well
Just close your eyes
Is Olie's mic broken because he sounds like he's off in the distance.
Dan's too
Shawn Michaels in 2002, Edge in 2020? Both of those are better returns.
Edge's return in 2020 beats all 3 of these
For 9 years it seemed like Edge wrestling was a dream. Theres no way anyone could argue CM "I burned a bridge and need cash" Punk, Cody "I deserve to be the main character" Rhodes, and Roman "Yall couldnt hold up this company while i was gone" Reigns, had better returns that Edge coming back from a career ending injury
Ahh....Movie Fights with Wrestling huh
Great show. Sound quality was a bit ropey by your usual good standards.
I don't see how Roman is in the conversation .. he left for 4 months, everyone knew he was just taking a break, his return is no different then the 100s of other returns that have happened over the years due to a hiatus. Really surprised that none of them picked Edge's return.
Topic request, best rivalries... I'll go 1st, briscos vs ftr
Like best of all time?
@evansfromtheheavens sure I mean Steen generico would be up there, or dudleys hardys
Ever?
@@Kobe24brady12 yeah, that way you can get the Hart/Shauns in there, Osprey/Omega, etc.
Rey Fenix vs mil Meurtes lucha underground
Bloodline was the catalyst for WWE towering over AEW. Have you forgotten how must watch Smackdown was when Sami and Bloodline were getting going. That was when WWE started feeling Ucey
2022? So what was going on 2019 until Sami Bloodline..
@@reeseangle9621 WWE sucked, AEW was the NKOTB and getting the attention
Request, Best Wrestling Catchphrase, and Worst Wrestling Catchphrase, Tie Breaker best or Worst New Catchphrase
Yes. Great suggestion!
Top 10 best returns
1. Punk returns 2023
2. Lesnar returns 2012
3. HBK returns 2002 to NWO
4. HHH returns 2002
5. Hogan, Nash, Hall return 2002
6. Cena returns 2008
7. Rock returns 2011
8. Edge returns 2020
9. Hardy boyz return @ wrestlemania
10. Taker returns as the deadman @ wrestlemania 20
Honourable Mentions:
Shane mcmahon returns 2016
Y2J returns 2007
Cody returns @ Wrestlemania
Dudley boyz return 2014
Ultimate warrior returns @ Wrestlemania
17:22 The look of 'huh, that sounds like it could apply to my pick as well' on Dan's face.
45:42 Tempest smiling because he knows EXACTLY what Luke was about to say🤣🤣
Roman Reigns had a better return at SummerSlam 2020 then he did at SummerSlam 2024.
CM Punk has a good return so far and definitely a more shocking one, however it's the greatest out of the three because he went to AEW. If that never happened prior to his return at Survivor Series last year I'd say it's one of the greatest returns of all time.
Cody Rhodes returned at WrestleMania 38 is the best out of the three despite it being spoiled in advance because he wasn't just former WWE superstar Cody Rhodes, he was former WWE superstar turned indie wrestler who co-founder of AEW and left the alternative promotion he helped create Cody Rhodes who return to WWE at WrestleMania.
I love this so much
Let Tempest do more news episodes
Edge was good and motivated a lot of people, but i feel the one that meant the most was Bray. Seeing Bray back was a healing moment against the BS of the Vince Era. It was a moment when we felt Triple H really took over and we could all breathe a sigh of relief. It wasn't just for us but for Bray too. Remember that promo afterward when he poured out his heart. And now think about how that motivated Taylor to form the Wyatt Sicks, and how we all popped when Shatter was played again earlier this week. Edge was good, but Bray sent a message that there was light at the end of the tunnel. And when everything went dark, that someone could pick up the lantern and keep going.
I don't really count Roman as a "return". Like it was part of the storyline that he was away and there was no real doubt that he was coming back. I think a return has to be from injury, retirement, or working for a different company.
I look at the chat and just think that none of them have listening comprehension 😂
Everyone knows that John Cena's Royal Rumble '08 Return is the best.
"D.A.D wins again!" -Sting, probably
i would have fought for Bray Whyatt even if it didn't amount to the greatest run the return and the smackdown promo alone were so powerful i can't watch that promo without crying
Dan's hair is absolutely literally glowing in this show!
Hi guys! Does anyone know if this is in audio form on Spotify?
I like listening to the reviews while I'm at work and this one sounds like fun to listen to as well! Thanks!
Edge 2020
SummerSlam 2002 has one of the best structured tag matches ever ... Which test is involved in
In honour of All In coming up, the next show should have the best non-US PPVs of all time
Also I stand by if Dan had a better memory of the 2002 Card he could have won.
For next Gripebombs I would love to see one for the Most Improved of 2024
Would love to see a movie Gripebombs episode!
Dan had Summerslam 2002 on his side & still found a way to lose!?! All he had to do was go down the card...Eddie, Edge, Kurt, Rey, RVD, He who cannot be named. My God, how did he fumble the dub?
Because the fans like Luke
I was there for the Punk return at Survivor Series... Believe me, that pop was absolutely "Nuclear"!!
Ive never really thought of SummerSlam 2021 as a worst SummerSlam ever, but it totally could be.
Roman returning during Covid era would have been a better argument...but top for me is John Cena at Royal Rumble
damn, no love for Stone Cold at Backlash 2000? I’m surprised especially with Luke on this show
Hardy Boyz beats the 3 of those hands down!
For those who don't k owing The View, it's the Metallica song from Botchamania that the line " I AM THE TABLE!!" comes from
My top 3 returns
1.edge
2.daniel Bryan
3.sting after what happened with Seth
Easy. Best return is
Drake Maverick
Most underrated wrestler of the last 10 years WWE
Mine would be Cesaro/Claudio.
Chad gable or Xavier woods
I'd love to see a debate of what is the best stable in wwe history.
On *this* channel? Shield sweeps that debate.
The ACTUAL answer? Evolution and it's not even close.
No, NWO does not count.
Edge return not being represented on this debate really bummed me out
Revive QuizzleMania!
Brits arguing politely. Too pleasant. We want tables! We want tables! We want tables!
When do we get an actual PFK Gripebomb Championship Title?
I would’ve picked Roman’s Thunder Dome return.
None of those are the best, all were expected and all were active wrestlers. Best return Is Edge.
Cody Rhodes because in the big war of the 21st-century for wrestling, he was the one to move first and he started AEW
Roman doesn't count as a WWE return. He didn't leave WWE, he was still under contract. When people say a WWE return usually it's someone who left the company and then came back. Not someone who lost that WrestleMania and healed up for a little bit.
I thought Tony was going to hire Cody as his president after his contract ran out. Give him a real high powerful position in his organization.
Cody Rhodes wasn’t even the best WrestleMania return to happen in the middle of a card in the last decade. The Hardys’ return at WM33 was insane.
It has to be CM Punk, Edge at the Rumble in 2020, Rumble John Cena, or Double Denim Triple H.
How did no one pick SummerSlam 1995?
I can think of 2 reasons. 1) The year 1995 was a bad year in general. 2) The main event was Diesel vs. Mable for the Wwf title. That was notable where Mable injured Diesel's back.
I'd like to see the topic of most overused trope in pro-wrestling.
Luke a great debater.
Loving this new series! Wrestletalk at the moment are on fire with their videos. Between this, the deep dives at the weekends, now the the GM mode has finished i can binge watch the series. The news episodes have been great as well. I do miss some familiar faces (Sat and Andy in particular) and the Smackdown podcast is a miss but can understand you guys need some time off.
Also the NRB and Chaotic Neutral channels are amazing as well. I've fallen behind on a lot of content the last couple of months but i have a lot of time off coming up soon. Gonna ve binge watching like crazy.
Also at the end of the month i am looking into Patreon for you guys. I spend so much of my times watching all your content and would be list without it. Also depending on money id live to contribute to the kickstarter for the new D&D season on Chaotic Neutral. If anyone hasn't given NRB or CN a bash, go there right now!
I cant quite work out if dans just not mic’d up or if his V is just that deep its not picking him up 🙈
Royal Rumble returns are the best, and Edge has the best one
If you guys take suggestions, I think the best baby faces in wrestling history. I was thinking Sting, Steamboat, Rey, Bryan, Becky, Cody, etc. There are a lot of options.
1:43 Tempest Im surprised you didnt put in our fellow Canadian EDGE the RATED R SUUUUUUUPERSTAR. Out of these 3 I would say Punk though just because of the history. When AEW came around I remember talking to my friend "oh maybe Punk can come back tto wrestling now that theres another major company" and he didnt believe me. Now hell has frozen over (Punk returning to wrestling via AEW) then reheated AND FROZE OVER AGAIN BY PUNK RETURNING TO WWE!!!! Punk himself has said that he probably wouldnt be back if Vince was still there but he's not and Punk is AND LET'S EFFING GO! Punk vs Cody PLEASE.
Shawn Michaels. Second half of his career was better than the first.
To add to Dan's defense: CM Punk returning to wrestling and WWE were 2 different things.
When Punk left WWE, even though he did other things like MMA, there was still the anticipation from fans that "Oh, when will Punk return to wrestling?" And I feel like during those years, Punk wanted a huge platform to make his return. However, the biggest platform by a large margin back then was still WWE.
And to nobody's surprise, when AEW started, one of, if not, the biggest question was "When will AEW hire Punk?" The whole "CM Punk return to wrestling being the best Punk return" only hinges on the fact that we haven't seen Punk wrestle for 7 years BUT the possibility of that happening within those 7 years was always there. It was slim but not entirely impossible.
Punk returning to WWE, however, was one of the remaining TRUE never-gonna-happen scenarios in the entirety of pro wrestling because of the nasty relationship between the two parties. Even when HHH took over, there was still no way in hell that those 2 will have a conversation about a return. But they made it happen and within a matter of days no less.
The whole argument of "Punk was a sellout" is entirely irrelevant because it didn't affect the whole REALITY that Punk returned to the very place that treated him like trash all those years ago. When Punk returned at Survivor Series, a lot of people were saying that "I can't believe we live in the timeline where Punk is in WWE again." But him "returning to wrestling" was only a matter of time.
Edge 2020, Punk 2023, and Undertaker 2005 at survivor series
None of these are the correct answer.
It's...Christian
13:01 Dan, are you really trying to say CM Punk’s return was less speculated/“knew it was coming” than Cody Rhodes’?! Let’s all rewind 9 months and reflect on Punk’s return. Do you not remember the world collectively going nuts because Survivor Series was in the All-State Arena in Punk’s hometown? My point is..all three of your guys’ nominations were at least somewhat telegraphed. Everyone predicted the Roman return, everyone predicted the Punk return, and everyone predicted Cody’s return. I don’t think, Dan, that your argument (in this portion of the video) is valid. Punk’s return might not be as unique as you might remember.
Luke really is a paradox. He will make a valid good argument like Codys return being one of the biggest of all time, and rightfully loose his shii when Dan and oli down play it, then he'll turn and say something stupid like punks return to wwe wasnt a nuclear pop. I get that his AEW return is a bigger pop but wtf? How can you rightfully say that this wasnt a nuclear pop when it was?
Honestly, Mr. Perfect's rumble return in the Rumble (along with several other rumble returns) was bigger and better than Roman's. As for Punk? Be honest: this wasn't his best return and you KNOW it.c
Undertaker returns at WM 20
SummerSlam 2021 is legit good. It’s not the best. But Edge Vs Seth match was great and Cena Vs Roman was good. Also Brock’s Shocking return
Oli’s pick wasn’t even the best Roman reigns summer slam return.
The best return was Hogan in 2002. The run after has mixed results, but absolutely no one has gotten the ovations that Hogan got in those first few months, not even Punk.
Edge is the best return ever and it isn’t close.
Lets face it. Edge returning was the best
@partsfunknown Worst promos for next time and I want olli to pick Steiner math
2002 the return of hbk
Dan claws out it hilarious
Audio sucks!
Lose men? i think you just mean jobbers
Luke is absolutely right here. Are the other two guys insane or something? There is an objectively right answer to this question, and it's Cody Rhodes.
Key word, "objective".
Cody
No bryan or hhh for best return, you could have won over tenpest by saying edge
Dan's defense: "CM Punk had the best return because I was on TV" lol
Brock Lesnar coming back and beating up Cena.
Hey, since the Borderlands movie is coming out this week, I wondered if NRB ever played any Borderlands board games? Bunkers & Badasses, Torgue's game, Tiny Tina's tea party....
Triple H 2002 no debate
The actual best summerslam is 2005 and I'm disappointed in both these lads for getting it so wrong
Hogan/Michaels alone makes it the best
@@diabeticman2194 that plus Eddie Vs Rey, who doesn't love a ladder match for the custody of a child
YALLS AUDIO IS TRASH EXCEPT TEMPEST 😮
I mean, it’s Edge. It just is Edge.
Man you guys go from dead whisper to yelling way too much in this video. It's impossible to listen to. Love the topics and show idea though.
It's partially because Dan's mic is all the way down at his sternum.