36] NO ENGINE to Key West | Abandon Comfort - Sailing
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- Sailing off the hook has quickly become our favorite thing to do under sail. We've found there is nothing better than sailing without starting or finishing a passage under motor.
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That Torquedo sounds like the transporter on the starship enterprise when Kirk says energize!
I have been a follower since you have been sharing your adventure here, it's such a pleasure to witness and be involved as a follower in your honest experiences and costs. Thank you so much!! The "open book" information you provide is honest and true IMO !!
One of my favorite sailing channels. I'll echo other folks: I really appreciate your down to earth style and willingness to explain the nuances of smaller vessel sailing. As you grow in popularity, please don't resort to (just) party/bikini marketing. There's a whole audience out there which isn't here for girls in skimpy suits. Cheers and keep 'em coming.
Amazing passage!
Now that's real sailing. Just make sure you have the extra room needed to sail on and off the hook. Coming into the anchorage downwind and kicking the hook off then rounding up and back-winding the fore sale is how you power set on the wind. Next up, warping off a slip with an off shore breeze coming in. :)
Hey guys, sorry we haven't commented sooner, but you guys are right up there in our top three fav sailing vlogs. Amazing how much progress you guys have made and how awesome the boat is looking. Keep it up!
Big respect to the Egg Beater, that one handed lift was impressive, all round nice video.
Great job guys! So happy to see you make it happen.
Impressed! You said you were going to sail and you are.
Another great & informative video. You two are doing it right, not in a hurry, willing to alter plans and practicing your drills when it is safe to do so (all of your drills I hope). Great MOB alarm too :-) o---) I'd say you are doing it in style and comfort!
Awesome video. I think Roo should a promotion to 1st Officer, great MOB alarm! 😍😍⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😍🐶🐶🐶🐶
I got an education on that Torqueedo motor. I’m sold on it. Very, very good video. I was thinking today that I had to get home by 9:00 PM CST because I knew I was going to get a notification on a new Abandon Comfort video. You’ve been getting them out like clockwork every Thursday around the same time. This is by far my favorite sailing series.
Trey Bull check out the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0. It has better battery life, and is much quieter. Plus, the battery floats if you drop it in the water, unlike the Torqeedo.
Loving the ep guys keep up the good work!
Roo, the most highly trained man overboard alert dog this side of the Mississippi!!!
Inspiring! Thankyou
Fast, for me! WOOT!
Another great video, looks very relaxing! Looking forward to seeing the keys and on to Tortuga!
Good practice! I crewed on a Columbia years ago that had a dead engine, we would practically sail it out of the slip. Never had a collision.
Sailing on and off the hook with no engine. That's the Coast Guard training coming out. Good job, be safe.
OH MAN! Torqeedo for the win! My dream for a Tanzer 22 involves one of their prop mount systems!
PS - Let me know if you get a chance to watch "Hold Fast "
I have seen trolling motors go faster and run a hell of a lot quieter. Also I am willing to bet that you need to replace the bearings if it is 10 years old. It may be electric, but it still has bearings.
Torqeedo motors are great! We use one ourselves :) Great job on not using the motor! Got to say I´d be more concerned about sailing onto the hook! Look forward to seeing that!
Fair Winds!
Pretty disingenuous to say that you would have had to repair a brand new outboard twice in the same time you’ve had your Torqueedo. That’s just nonsense. But you were probably comparing it to an old worn out engine, right? I know, you didn’t say new. Not to mention the fact that a Torqueedo and extra batteries cost a ton more than an equivalent new outboard. If you want to be electric, be electric, but be honest about the true costs. Transparency? Most people are buying new, there ain’t that many of them around. And how much do you think an equivalent sized outboard weighs? I am curious how ten year old batteries held up.
You are correct Josef. Every thing I have heard is electric has a worse overall impact to the environment than gas.
Leaving an anchorage under sail is always so rewarding. When anchoring under sail, you can use the main sail as a brake to top forward momentum by pushing on the boom and backing it. You can also back the main to get you moving backwards, allowing you to back down on the anchor to make sure your are hooked. I wish everyone on the water would practice these techniques like you are. Makes us all safer in the long run. Have a great trip!!!
Appreciate the insights and couldn't agree more. Finishing the journey without firing back up the engine is an awesome feeling.
Backing the main into weather when anchoring on a 35-foot boat is a little more involved than just "pushing" on it.
I wish more sailors would practice all the techniques more :-)
And that includes me!
AC is like the honey boo boo of sailing series. Check out "Winded Voyage." Good stuff there. Most underrated sailing series out there. Binge watching right now.
I just found your channel 3 days ago I'm skipping around a bit but your doing great so far ...I loved bumfuzzle.com I followed them for years ...have you seen few range sailing they have the same dingy and do all kinds of carrying in it and I hope I find the video where you pick it wish I would have found you sooner I live in largo I would have loved to come help you work on your boat
How well does the dinghy perform with three or four people in it? Or with groceries and several water jugs in a windy anchorage? I'm thinking it is a bit under-powered considering it seems like most dinghy's are powered by 5, 10, 15 or even more horsepower. The Key West mooring field should give it a good test, let us know how that works out.
It looks easy to be stolen.
Nice one guys, good idea trying these scenarios rather than them happening to you unawares. Love Key West, sailed Kew West Race Week and the town is great, amazing food and you have to visit Sloppy Joes... Andy UK
Funny how liberals think having an electric car or in this case a boat motor actually help the environment. Truth is that the mining of lithium is about the most harmful thing humans can do to the earth. The mines create huge gaping holes in the earth and 1000's upon 1000's of diesel fuel is burnt by the heavy equipment used in the mining operation and all those trucks and crawlers and bulldozers emits tons of exhaust fumes. Also where do you think the power to charge the batteries comes from? Coal fired or nuclear power plants. Not to mention the problems created by the disposal of lithium batteries once they wear out. Gas or clean diesel is a much better and safer option especially out in the middle of the ocean.
Owwww no electrical motor in a boat is not a good thing a motor can save your life its allways got power if a storm hits no battary bo sail good luck
What's the difference between the Torqeedo and a regular trolling motor? Trolling motors are very affordable.
I binge watched all of your episodes and I am hooked. Quick question: Does the Torqueedo have a whine to you? What causes that? You two are great... Thanks so much.
Another great video guys. But I would commit Hari Kari if I had to travel 7 miles with the sound that motor puts out. :)
That electric outboard is way cool. I'd never heard of one before(sheltered life), so knowing that a reliable one is available should help convince folks to check them out. During that night crossing, how many crab pots did you snag?
Edward Grant surprisingly none! We lost a lot of footage from this episode but the reason Ryan jumped off the back of the boat was to see if there was any line in the prop 🙂
How low can you go on that battery before damaging it? Under 3v per cell is bad. How long to solar recharge it?
Mastiff Comms Good question.
Is there any particular reason why you do not unwind the main sheet? Just wondering because it is so obvious in a lot of your shots. Cheers, John
I second that. This is an important safety concern, and very easy to address. I expect that you applied logic to your main sheet when you pulled it through the blocks. It’s a common rookie move. Have a look at Ashley’s Book of Confusion, where you’ll find an entire section devoted to multi-part purchase arrangements. If you don’t fix this, if will at minimum increase the friction substantially, at worst, it could lock up preventing trimming or even worse still, dumping energy from the main. When you fix this it will feel like you greased your blocks and replaced the sheet with new, supple line.
Swashfrog Sailor - I could not find any links to Ashley's Book of Confusion.
Do you know where I can find this? I tried Google and Amazon. I only came up with Ashley's Book of Knots.
SailingPittsburgh, you’re on the right track. The Ashley Book of Knots aka Ashley’s Book of Confusion. You can find it as a free ebook, but it’s best to spring for the hardcover. It’s a monstrous volume, but addresses any imaginable need one might have respective line on a boat, aside from modern cordage.
The big cat at the end is the Key West Express, From Tampa to Key West! It is fast!
It's absurdly fast!
As always, awesome episode. Thanks for doing what you do! Just out of curiosity, any chance you might go to Ascension or St. Helena one day?
iTalkToMySelf thank you! It’s so hard to say where we’ll end up but yes we’d love to make it out there at some point.
I have an old 3.3 hp Mercury that still starts on one pull cold and I've never ever had it break down or leave me stranded any where. Never even broke a prop cotter pin. It can run for days on it's internal tank of fuel. I love it. I have thought about an electric outboard though, I wonder how long will it take you to bring the charge back up from 25% to 100%?Do you do that off your solar panels on the boat or wait till you get to a dock somewhere? You failed or I missed it, but you said only one thing broke on your motor....what was it? I know my engine could probably get fixed just about any where, if you should need a part for your outboard I guess you have to wait for the mail??? What is their support like? I would think it's pretty good in the states but how about else where? Hmmmm.
My question also..can you charge it on the hook off solar?
Do some cooking moments in your vids. Fishing.
built Crowther 45 cat in 82, 10 years aboard and never at marinas, tips we learned, ALWAYS a day anchor ready at bow AND another at stern, we had a single Johnson 25 as power. If coming to dock, stern anchor is ready if engine failure. Loved sailing off the bow anchor, sometimes anchor by stern for better ventilation and less "sailing" sideways while at anchor, Paint anchor a strong color, white for mud, or as needed. 70 yrs old now home schooled our Son- cannot describe the strength of memories from LIVING those years. Suburban existence is a seduction / anesthesia of tame memories! AHHHHHHH, I'm already back there on that efficient Spartan cat, ahhhhhhh........
Do they make one that doesn't sound like a dentist's drill?
Button the boat up before nightfall. One of the worst nights I've ever spent on a boat was anchoring off the everglades. Left my cabin hatch open and paid the price. Awful awful awful. They come in like mad at nightfall. I've been bit up by mosquitoes before but never like that. I spent hours killing them and hours cleaning up bug guts and blood off every surface in that cabin.
We always have netting over the 1 open hatch. Our hatches are aft-facing so they don't do anything for allowing breeze into the boat. Our only hatch that is fwd facing is the head and we have that open with netting.
It is true, best to be there in the winter for the bugs but you can anchor waaaaay(1 mile) off the beach and that helps a lot even in the summer, but the friggin horse fly's will find you and bite the hell out of you. When you go on deck especially first thing in the morning be ready cuz they will be waiting. Close up the boat after dark and turn off the lights and wait a while then turn on the lights and let the killing begin! A little hydrogen peroxide on a paper towel cleans up the blood splatter. BUT nothing beats anchoring right in the river at dusk the water comes alive especially in the warm months
Good idea to practice "oh crap" moments when they aren't "OH CRAP" moments. I'm sure you know it will give you both a lot more confidence when it does come around, and we all know it will.
Sailing...not motoring, awesome! I am wondering how fast your dingy goes with the Torqeedo? Thank you for another great video :)
Thanks, Jeffrey! Our torqeedo goes 4.5kts full throttle which for this test it was full throttle for the entire trip. If we go half throttle our range is almost 15nm total.
Wow! That range is amazing. I see why you say the 3hp would be ideal (for a little more speed/power when needed), but wow! Thank you.
A freind has owned a torqeedo for 10 yrs and has had it repaired twice. Electronic boards burnt. 20 yrs ago I took a Minkoda acroos the pacific (3yrs sailing) and it worked perfectly so I bought another 2 yeays ago and it lasted 2 months. A poor product now. I do like the electric out boards.
Do you guys have a sea anchor?
Great video! We always talk about going up Shark River in the dinghy, but we never do it. Thanks for the preview. Enjoying you channel!
Getting better and better .... XX00 Cheers
Thanks, David :)
Ever now and then i‘m noticing that you are talking with your, how i would put it, „video-voices“. When talking with each other you sound nice and the sympathy is growing. Dont drop your voices until you cant while talking to the camera, your natural „relaxed“ voices are are much more pleasent to hear (at least for my ears).
So theese are just thoughts of mine and should not bother you. They more likely should encourage you to be you, to be who you want to be, to do what you want. Keep on sailing i’m keen to see what comes next!
Sorry to read about the doubters in the comments but I love that you guys sail as much as possible. I love sailing on/off anchor too! Keep up the great vids!
That's what it's all about to us! Can't beat the feeling of just moving under mother natures forces.
What is the “hook”
Surprised I don’t see people using trolling motors on ones dingy, any reason why?
Would love to hear a long term report on that Torqueedo. I am planning on one but was thinking about the larger one. What is top speed with the one you have on the 8 ft portObote?
Great practice on and off the hook. I think too many sailors rely on their engines for everything. I have even seen them start there motor just to tack? Once you know you can sail without it than it truly is just an auxiliary motor.
How do you read RUclips comments without going insane?
You do go insane. But we take comments with a huge grain of salt. The reality is less than 1% of people who subscribe comment. We've learned to ignore the armchairs at this point. We used to try to reason with them but we've come to realize these are the types of people who will talk about something their whole life and never do it so there's really no point.
Follow The Boat just made a video on the top-5 reasons not to make sailing videos. People leaving douchey comments and hating on you made the list ;)
I was thinking the same thing Savage. Folks need to give them a break, as we all know, they started with zero experience. I'm enjoying watching the decision making process while some of us older guys knows there is a learning curve on the horizon. Still fun to watch without making turd comments.
Is it possible to tell us what songs are being played at what point in the video???? Love the song played around the 3min40sec mark, and I just can not seem to find it on the spotify playlist..... Thanks, and Love the channel
Hey Ryan & Kelsey! Quick question for you - how are you managing sea sickness? It appears that Ryan doesn't seem too negatively impacted by it, but in early episodes it looks like Kelsey was. Do you eventually get used to it, do you medicate for it? It looked like she had a bracelet on at one point which is supposed to help? Thanks guys, great series!
was drawn into no-engine to beat-the-fear and survived!!!... oh boy, I didn't know I can be that courageous :) ))
Hi, did you have your old battery with you charged and ready to go in case you ran down the other?
Its either a Delivery or a Cruise. When you want to get to somewhere by a certain time, its a delivery. Doing a delivery means your attention is focused on getting there, not the journey but the destination. You have to admit it. You guys sound like you are more about getting somewhere by night or the next day versus just cruising along. Each evoke a very different set of emotions and mental attention. Just a little challenge for you to think about. I know you want to cruise but your videos sound like you are more on a delivery, rather than cruising. All that being said, I love your teaching videos. Happy journeys!
Almost every sailer vlogger is either in Florida somewhere (keys) usually or the Bahamas, do you guys link up with other vloggers? You are all usually in the same vicinity as so many others..
We set our hook under sail using sail. The easiest is. After you fall back on your rode and take down the main all normal like then roll out about half your headsail on the backed tack. Bow will blow off wind stretching out chain. If the hook is really set after a minute or two the backed jib will eventually be pulled against and the bow will be forced onto the other tack. Then roll up jib and dive in to look at anchor. This backed jib will take you to the side a bit (think like a water skier at the end of the slalom) so try this method when you have some room and not much current. I learned this watching the Pardeys anchor next to us years ago on Talisman.
Now that I see you have the porte boat I realize that must have been your Rassey in the marina at Stock Island recently. We are up on the hard at the boatyard next door just off your starboard side.
Fair winds!
To set anchor under sail, I lower or reef enough to slow to about 2kts, sail downwind, drop anchor where I want it to set and feed out chain to the right scope then snub it. Boat will swing itself when the anchor catches. ( I do this single-handed)
Only problem with this is chain can rub on topsides and waterline. (no bowsprit).
Speed may be the crucial factor. ( too fast and the chain can run out scary fast, and this may also lead to the chain rubbing problem)
Sailing off, I have experimented with just main sheeted fairly close and let the boat tack itself up toward the anchor, pulling in chain on each tack as it goes slack, until I sail over the anchor. Sometimes also set the headsail sheeted loosely amidships, sometimes just the headsail. they all work to varying degrees. Very satisfying to sail on and off anchor.
That’s pretty loud, are there any lubrication points on the drivetrain portion of that Torqudeo? It would last longer if the maintenance is done periodically
Not a brilliant end guys
RUclips is testing "Sponsors". Maybe in the future viewers can sponsor you directly on RUclips.
How do you like your Torqeedo? Do you do anything to protect it if you go to a crowded dinghy landing (ie, from theft)?
with current advances in battery and electric motor performance. Going all electric is a very wise option. With solar, wind, hydro and a 6.5K diesel gen-set. You have the best of both worlds. And when things are going well, you wont even have to start the gen set. but its there to power your electric drive motor.
Agreed :) If there's any application where electric motors make the most sense - it's on the water.
Sweet vid guys!!
Key West isn't too bad to enter at night but I wouldn't enter any harbor I've never been in before in the dark on my own boat. I've been there a few times and entered it once hours before sunrise early one morning after our crossing back from Cuba on charter I crewed for. It was a bit scary as it is a fairly long channel and there are a ton of boats closer in to the island on the West end. But it wasn't my call as the charter captain, a guy I had never even met before this trip, didn't want to wait for morning light with cabins full of paid guests aboard. It's so dark and hard to see where you are and need to trust the GPS more than I like to. As crew it was my watch as we approached so I got the job of helming in the dark the entire way in while the captain helped keep watch and spot, so it wasn't too horrible having been there a half dozen times before, with that last time only a week before when we left that same trip. Still, if it were my call I'd have found a place to wait out the sunrise.
Yea I never enter a harbor at night until I've been there at least once before. Always prefer to leave early than to arrive late!
The only harbor I'll enter at night is our local Chicago harbors, and of those only the one we were living at he last 2 years and maybe the one just south of there. But we have been in and out of our hundreds of times and at least half of those times we came back after dark. it took dozens of times sailing with our club at night before I even started to become comfortable sailing at night in that area.
I wouldn't suggest anyone try to sail around there at night if they are not familiar with Chicago's lakefront. There are no shoals by the city, but there are a lot of protective seawalls that are not very well marked at night since they are very long and only marked with lights at the ends, and one of the old unused water intake cribs has been unlit for a couple of years now. I'm waiting for someone to sail into that one one of these days and wreck. It's scary enough knowing exactly where it is.
Then there is "dime pier" that is just off of Navy Pier which is not a pier any more but used to be 60+ years ago and now is just a bunch of wood and concrete sticking out of the water maybe 6-8". A large 50' motorboat hit that last year and ended up sinking just outside of our harbor mouth and got towed in by the Coasties to finally sink to the bottom in the shallow water a couple hundred yards from our mooring for a few days before they pulled it up. It's not for the faint of heart.
Isn't using an anchor considered cheating ?
Don't speak unless someone is paying you.
So almost a year later, do you still stand by this? We are in the market for a motor and have contemplated this.
O is she a babe .good one both of them living there dream it's called doing hot my vote a $$ not much lpl
What was the app you guys used to find free camp sites? Loving the channel!
Normally the sharks don't like portaboats - the pieces stick between their teeth 😁
how do you charge the outboard ?
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Looking forward to more!😊
What is your dog's name? (probably missed it!)
All love, and best wishes, to you 3, Claire, Berlin 😘 😘 😘 ✌
Dogs name is Meru - we just call him Roo for short :) Thanks for watching and commenting!!
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Enjoying every minute with my 'sofa crew', 2 Goldies, and 3 cats )
All love, and best wishes, Claire and co 😙 😙 😙 ✌
If I was choosing an outboard it would have to be the English Seagull.
Coooool video guys! Loved the music so much. Keep it up :) Fair winds.
I'd be surprise if Roo jumped overboard watching his reaction to you going in. He might slip somewhere down the line, but I don't think he will go in willingly.
i have a porta bote and that thing is amazing. i am repairing my 7.5 hp outboard for it.
Great episode 👍🏻
Roo shore didn't like it when his dad went overboard.. lol.. He's a smart dog..
To translate his barking: "Take me with you! Take me with you! I know how to swim!"
How do charge the outboard battery? How long does it take?
That noise is wasted energy. Does something need lube?
I would have been too paranoid to leave my boat alone and go on a little boat.
Dig it you guys are great, ending stunk for the first time ever, can’t wait for the next one
Yea our camera died so we're missing the ending piece to this one :( We'll be back to the usual endings next week.
Fun video. Nice job with no motor. Curious where you got the iPad mount?
Wow, you two have outstanding Vids, and very entertaining, you have great subjects you bring up, thank you , thank you, retired Marine here, my bucket list is to move back to St Augustine fla, I love history.... Doug
Great episode guys! So nice not having to motor for anything. You're right it was done for many, many, many years before motors were ever invented and installed in sailboats Can't wait till the next episode!
Very loud for an electrical outboard...
WOW 7nm with 25% in reserve. 😂..
I'm constantly 'repairing' our 8hp Merc. 20min at the start of every Season for the last 28yrs.👎😉
Hey guys so sad you are no longer at the Harborage in St. Petersburg! We just got started and purchased our 45' Jeanneau sun odyssey and she is at the Harborage! Good luck on your journey. We will start in 3 years as we are now doing our outfitting and saving for our journey with 3 kids. Maybe we will see you out there. Check us out at Total Serenity Sailing. Keep inspiring us. Fair winds and following seas!
Everglades is one of the best fishing spots in all of Florida. So glad you choose to keep going while you had the wind. After all if 20 knots is too much no one should be sailing ever haha. Don't agree with you on the choice of dingy engine however. A good Minn Kota 55lbs ripe tide trolling motor would work just as well. I used mine on a 15 foot Back Country flats boat for days in the everglades. 3 to be exact. If you find yourself with an unexpected storm approaching you will need the power of a 9.9 gas engine to get back to the boat quickly. Or perhaps you need to pull anchor from the opposite direction to get it un-lodged. Either way that electric just won't ever have the power you will need to get out of certain predicaments
I Understand the practice. I had a twin screw boat and always practiced mooring with one engine, just like I did in the Coast Guard. It came in handy many times. BM1 Retired now. Happy sailing
I keep looking at your Mainsheet and its twist. Not good to avoid chafing the rope. Also I wouldn't have a snap shackle connection to the traveller car on such a vital piece of equipment. The snap shackle is probably the weakest part of your Mainsheet setup.
Nice short videos👍
Great vid guys. Gotta love simplicity with less complications. The Torqueedo seems like a great simpler affordable option.
"Make hay while the sun shines" is a good motto we have always held to, guess to convert to your situation would be make sail while its blowing... hope there is always a gust to move you : ]
Some verbal descriptions of what you're seeing like the thing in the trees, the thing in the water, and the boat paying would add s lot to your visuals. Or even a subtitle. Good sailing.
The short beard looks good Ryan. You guys should visit Tobermory Ontario some day. Among many other things to do, you can troll around the abundance of shipwrecks that contribute to the area being the diving capital of Canada. Good luck out there.