Disagree. We already have enough content with all three of those characters. I'm sick and tired of the same old boring generic Skywalker Saga time-line. I wish they'd either pick DIFFERENT characters to write stories about, or go to an entirely different time period and write different stories. You'd think two animated TV shows, an animated movie, three tv shows, and 11 movies would be enough, but no, they keep making more. Now there's even another Rey movie coming out. WHAT ABOUT A JANGO FETT MOVIE BASED ON STAR WARS BOUNTY HUNTER????? It would be a really good movie showing the competition between Jango Fett and Montross for the contract.
@@TheJoker-gg8hc it would be cool to have a Jango get movie but they will definitely mess it up. Look at book of boba fett, they had all the material to make it good but they still mess it up. All they had to do was look a legend material but no
@@TheJoker-gg8hc I think the reason people would rather have more of Vader/ Maul/ Obi-Wan and the like is because they're already established main players in the Skywalker saga and that's safer to explore than shoehorning in half-baked side characters who'll ultimately take a back seat in the over arching story that just feel redundant and fan fiction-y. Bit of a waste of time imho. However I do partially agree with you. I especially agree with the bit you said about exploring a different era entirely with new fresh characters. Big thumbs up on that one. I've been saying to my IRL buddies for a long time now that I wish they'd either go way into the future to where Palpatine, Vader, and the Skywalkers are nothing more than mere legend in that timeline where people question if they ever truly existed at all OR, conversely, go waaaay back to the past before the idea of a "chosen one" isn't even an idea that could be possible. The Star Wars universe is so rich with lore that there's no reason to be anchored to this small section of time anymore. Disney would be better off striking out trying something entirely new than to keep taking a bludgeon to an already loved, albeit done to death era
Id pay to see this version of Kenobi. Id pay 250 dollars AND MORE to see Maul, Vader, Cody, Luke, Anakin all in one show or movie. I wish there was a world where we could just write off the kenobi show, and say its not canon and make a NEW kenobi show featuring this. Fumbled a MASSIVE BAG which could have brang in ALL AGES OF AUDIENCES because it had luke, anakin all of those guys.
@@GlobBucket The message is nearly everywhere in various industries via ESG as far as I've seen, but Disney's push of it is one of the most noticable as they have corrupted beloved IP's with it lx)
Scripts leaking like this is basically the equivalent of Anakin/Vader finding out how much the Jedi Council didn't trust Anakin. It just causes more anger.
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It’s literally perfect writing, doesn’t get better than that. It shows their relationship perfectly, Palpatine sees Anakin as a failure and both have so much hostility towards each other
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it! I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died. God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins. For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him. Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil". LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
What I keep learning from these scrapped story leaks, is that Disney, at every step of the way, stepped on the toes of talented people who actually cared about what fans wanted to see. Corrupting their vision until it was a 'safe' corporate product
That's because Disney is more concerned with political activism (thus hiring people that are more concerned with doing their "social justice") than with telling compelling stories and alongside this, these same people are terrible writters even without their activism.
I feel so bad for Tem. First they wrote Boba terribly in his own show and gave half of the show to Din despite being called “The Book of Boba Fett”, then they ghosted Boba in Season 3 of The Mandalorian and left Tem hanging on the phone, then they ghosted Boba in The Bad Batch when the series is literally centered around his sister, and now this with Kenobi. I already find it somewhat messed up that Dee Bradley Baker voices so many of the clones while Tem/Jango is the clone template. They should make it up to Tem by giving him a gritty and mature Jango Fett animated series to voice in. Tem is one of if not the most passionate Star Wars actors when it comes to his characters. He deserves so much better. Tired of the Fetts being ghosted when they’re basically the OG Mandalorians, the OG Bounty Hunters, and Boba is the OG Clone. Give Tem an animated Jango series, and let him go all out in it. No childish kiddie garbage. Make it gritty, violent, and ruthless. The complete opposite of The Book of Boba Fett.
This demonstrates a rather important point. There is talent at Disney, and they're capable of writing good and compelling stories. Something, or someone, is intentionally stopping them.
I think kk or someone like her who has some power at Disney knows some dark stuff n she’s blackmailing too keep her job and shit shows getting greenlit
Maybe... She has a lot of people who follow her orders, I'm sure she does a very good job getting the people above her to not hear her flaws and lie about the narrative@@therealassassian1048
The thing is, if they understood Star wars, there's an obvious way to fix that scene. The T-47, commonly called snow speeders, has a tow cable for retrieving cargo crates. Leia and Obi-Wan hide in a crate that is wheeled out by Tala, then have the t-47 use its harpoon and tow cable to snag the crate. You could even have Tala give orders to a droid to place the crates at the entrance of the hanger and have her hide in a crate as well. The speeders swoop in and grab the crates in seconds, instead of taking up time laying cover fire and parking for everyone to get on board. Much more believable. Especially considering the T-47 is a two person craft.
Dude…. Vader clapping back at Palpatine “Yoda is the other threat. Pity you failed to end him my master” and then Palpatine doing like a cross galactic force choke or lightning on his suit to circuit his breathing would have been AWESOME
Cross the galaxy force choke? That would've been the stupidest thing. What you gave is an example of why I despise fan made content. Fans are not good at making content.
@@Cujo5 Vader LITERALLY force Chokes across the galaxy in ESB in Admiral Ozzel. Palpatine LITERALLY force chokes Dooku through a monitor even further than Vader does. Go watch a movie or anything Canon.
"Stormtroopers have poor aim" Does everyone forget those troopers on the Death Star were TRYING to let them escape so they could track them back to the Rebel Base.
Unfortunately they took that...and said "No they still miss, they just suck as a trained army." I honestly think they flanderiized the troopers since the OT
@@paqshet4648for one ep and then forget about him we don’t even know what happens to him after he leaves the empire and we don’t even see him leave we get told this by rampart
@@MegatronJon8OMG, character from show I like! As long as character I like is in media, it doesn't matter how bad the content is! Honestly, bad batch wasn't terrible like other recent stuff, but if Rex appears in another show, I'm gonna lose my mind even though I have liked the character
I've been saying this for years we got to find Rick Sanchez and have him take us to the the universe where George Lucas never sold Star Wars and directed the sequel Trilogy himself and had hired a team of passionate fans to co-produce
If there's that multiverse where KK actually cared what George would've wanted and continued making good star wars media. we live in a horrible universe
Wow. It almost feels worse to actually know that Disney had within their grasp a script that was so beyond competent. That honestly sounds like it could've been up there with some of the best Star Wars films, certainly better than anything Disney's produced thus far. The attention to detail in character and narrative, and actual logical development in those areas is unmatched in anything they've produced. "Did you ever hear the tragedy of the abandoned Kenobi script? I thought not. It's not a story the Disneys executives would tell you."
What I love is that your reaction to initially hearing Beatties plan to have Kenobi leave tatooine was "Hell no" similar to a majority of people, then when you heard how they would actually implement it, you came around to the idea and that shows how to take a normally unpopular idea like Kenobi leaving Luke and turn that into a good story beat that even people who wouldn't like it can come around to it. Something that Disney just can't seem to be able to do with any of their projects.
I think the disconnect is they put their typical money-making film formulas they’re well-Practiced in on a universe that wasn’t built on those formulas. Traditional Star Wars is closer to a WB or paramount produced script than Disney if you compare libraries imo. And Disney’s formula is always about converting franchises into other experiences than the film itself, eg, the park and exclusive hotel and experiences, the toys, and other commodities. All studios want to collect on those things, but there’s like an immediate formula applied to Disney projects to get as much value out of an IP as possible.
The domino effect that that Disney trilogy had on SW has to be studied as one of the all time greatest tragedies in history. When SW Theory said he didn't want to listen anymore bc of how much it was pissing him off that Disney didn't go with this script.. I certainly felt that.
This show hurt me more than the sequels ever did. The incompetence from top to bottom is baffling and disgusting. I keep being recommended Andor but I haven’t watched anything since.
My friend, I feel your pain and completely agree but give Andor a shot. Out of all the crap Disney that has been shoved in a true fan's face, Andor is about the best non-force story that I didn't think I'd enjoy. It builds up to explain a side of the Rebellion NONE of us knew about.
The Sequels gutted me, and made me not want to watch anything Star Wars again for about a year. I can't say that about Kenobi, because my hope was already gone.
@@SimplyyKevv Andor is excellent, and IMO, the main reason is this: the people making it showed respect to the material, to the audience, and themselves. That's it, in a nutshell, and it's also what's completely lacking in Kenobi.
I have a specific memory of Darth Maul being in the Obi-Wan trailer. Saw his mechanical legs trudging through the sand. Heard his voice taunting Obi. It was awesome. That's the version the parallel universe got. Talk about Mandela Effect.
"how dare you tell me to move on" when you said that it instantly made me a fan. I've been a lurker for a while but consider me a certified fan. No one has the right to tell you to move on from an IP that you hold so close to your heart... Thanks for standing up for the star wars nerds everywhere in the world like me.
I was all for retconning the Disney Trilogy, anyway. There’s only a small handful of actually GOOD and COHESIVE stuff that’s come from Disney Star Wars and you can barely count them all on one hand. But yeah, the incompetence of why we never actually got this.. It’s actually beyond infuriating, to see it be so mis-managed like this!
Dog I clocked out after the TLJ. I just stick around here on star wars theory to watch the clown show that became star wars cus it’s funny how bad it’s gotten.
It still baffles me on the scene in the background at 6:30 how Anikan doesn't just use his T800 hand to crush Kebobi's wind pipe and just win right there.
Infuriating. They passed up on a good script for Kenobi, a movie fans were actually asking for, because garbage that no one asked asked for bombed at the box office...
@@harryamer3128 No I think your hatred is clouding you with this one. She thought the original script was better Filoni and Faverau changed it to what we got now according to the video. It’s actually a very very very extremely 1 million KK W.
@@Darth_Arashi no if Kathleen liked the script we would've got it, simple. We didn't get it, plus filoni and faverou had nothing to do with the shows only suggestions. If this was something Kathleen liked, then it would have been released like how it was supposed to be and that is film format. Instead you have incompetent fucks who come on to help write the show yet have never watched ep 3
What is most upsetting about all of this is that it demonstrates that there are competent people inside Star Wars HQ that are just ignored and shoved out.
So unfortunate, and I watched this on the same day that George said this in Cannes: “I was the one who really knew what Star Wars was … who actually knew this world, because there’s a lot to it. The Force, for example, nobody understood the Force,” he said. “When they started other ones after I sold the company, a lot of the ideas that were in [the original] sort of got lost. But that’s the way it is. You give it up, you give it up.”
Yeah! Because EVERYTHING with her has gotta’ be female-centric.. For her dumb “tHe fOrCe iS fEmAlE” crap! 🤨😒 If I was a shareholder at Disney, I would be actively seeking to replace Kathleen Kennedy and her “kith and kin” inside Disney Lucasfilm, as soon as humanly possible.
There’s a universe where we would’ve had this Obi wan film, Lucas’ sequel trilogy, and the cancelled star wars games. Getting tired of saying this regarding Star Wars but it’s such a damn shame. It’s like what a previous comment said, more “could’ve would’ve should’ve happened”
just imagine the reverse scene from ESB but between Kenobi and Reva : Reva: Darth saved me. Kenobi: No. he is the one who try to kill you. Darth is anakin. Reva: no! it's impossible! nOOooOOooO!
Kenobi was the straw that broke the camel’s back with me. That one hurt. Waited 17 years for that. I’ve still given other projects a fair shake, but after that one I have NO trust in Disney with Star Wars. We’ll never get the Star Wars we want as long as DEI companies own the franchise.
All they had to do was say 'Yes.' They were even smartly hedging their bet - having the first film end on a satisfactory note in case it didn't do well commercially. All they had to say 'Yes' to one film, the audience would have shown up, there would be excitement about two more Kenobi films, and Star Wars would've been back.
I am more pissed that we'll never get an official Darth Vader and Darth Sidious moment where both throw shade at each other for failing to kill Yoda and Obi-wan
This just hurts. Who looked at this and said “nah this wont work” but then proceeded to look at the shhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHIT!!! We got and said “HOLY LUCAS GET THIS IN THE WORKS NOW!” What is wrong with these people? Are they just careless or just completely tone deaf? Or just both??? They literally had a WINNER film, IN THERE HANDS! Written by someone who knows his stuff and seemed to actually care about making a good star wars project! Instead, we get Kenobi hiding Leia in a trench coat Reva who didn’t make any sense and was just completely boring to the point you just skip her scenes Shaky cam for almost all the fights. Have Vader and Kenobi fight in the worst set choice they could’ve chosen, whilst using shaky cam AGAIN Kenobi leaves Luke, the Chosen one, the most important person in the galaxy unprotected Cody is just gone, he isn’t mentioned, hinted at and is just not involved at all. Cody, Kenobi’s clone commander of the 212th battalion, the second most important legion, is nowhere to be seen 😐 Leia, who’s 10, outruns mercenaries, full grown adults, hired by a supposedly competent inquisitor, because she slides down and ducks under branches for which the mercenaries can ALSO see, but decide to run into them because ‘bad guy stupid!’ Reva survives not 1, but 2 LIGHTSABER GUT STABS from Darth Vader and just survives because sabers stabs no longer kill. You have to just slice them and THEN they’ll die… Reva wants to become grand inquisition because she wants to get close to DARTH VADER and KILL him?!?! ‘BuT ShE WaNts ToO AvEnGe HeR DeAD JeDi FrIeNdS!’ Reva herself has already killed Jedi at this point…and her reasoning is because she wants to avenge said Jedi? Oh and of course she suddenly feels guilty and is now all “oh my god, if i kill Luke, then I’m exactly like Vader when he killed my friends!” Didn’t have that conundrum when you killed all the other Jedi up until then? Okay then… Spy lady reignites the fire to save Obi-Won…literally moments after Vader extinguished the same flame with a force push…did he just, lag out when the fire was ignited again? ‘We WaNtEd A CoOl BaCk ShOt Of VaDeR In FrOnT Of ThE FiRe!’ Congratulations, you made a decent shot with Vader in it…as if there isn’t already cool shots of him 😐 An entire company of stormtroopers crammed up, shooting at rebel goons ‘with shaky cam again because of course’ missing 95% of their shots because, of course. Vader pulls down the first ship, RIPS the whole side off of it and then proceeds to just stair at the second ship fly off. Again, why does Vader suddenly forget he has the force? Quick fix for that scene. Vader has the second ship in a hold, but then all the sudden Reva throws her saber at Vader. Vader stumbles, ship flies off, Reva pulls the saber back in her hand and then rushes Vader and THEN Vader completely out-skills Reva. Boom, problem solved! Reva kidnapped Leia because she found a connection in the archives…so the ISB never bothered to check the archives then? None of the officers on Inquisitorios checked them? 10 years since order 66, and NO ONE decided to check for any possible connections that Obi Wan might have had in the Clone Wars? Okay then… “I wont help you! I know full well what the empires capable of because they killed my wife!……..okay you have my help”…i hate my life This has already been pointed out but screw it. Vader has the entire star destroyer chase down 1 person instead of getting on his own ship his TIE-Defender or a literally any of the other small ships aboard and have the star destroyer chase down the rebels? Okay then. Spy lady literally SMACKS a stormtrooper in the helmet and he basically goes “OH GOD WHY, AH I CAN’T SEE-oh wait thats normal-AGH!” Way to make them a threat…again… Purge troopers were put in, had black clone armour, custom helmets and were pretty badass looking. Could’ve had them step out with the inquisitors on Tatooine like how in Fallen order Trilla has a squad of them accompany her. And YET, what did they do in Kenobi? They ran through a hallway, walked onto the platform of the fortress and were killed in BOTH scenes they were…great use of costumes… Speaking of Fallen Order, you mean to tell me, Fortress Inquisitorios, the main base that was ALREADY broken into 5 years before in the SAME WAY CAL DID! And no one decided to implement more security? How about some dark troopers? Squads of Purge troopers (who are trained to FIGHT force sensitives) patrol the hallways regularly? Have those big tall imperial droids (i forgot what they’re called sorry) with at least 5 or 8 stormtroopers patrol the base? Do we get that? ANY OF THAT?! Nah there’s just a probe droid and like 2 stormtroopers walking about…brilliant. 1 shot from a blaster was enough to crack the glass 😑 you built your base…in the ocean…and your hallways have windows that…crack from 1 shot from a regular E-11? WHO BUILT THIS?!?! Reva seriously said to Kenobi “WhY DiDn’T yOu SaVe Us!?” He was literally in the midst of fighting Grevious and commanding the 212th on Utapau. The end of the Clone Wars was at hand, why would he even be on Corascant? (Definitely spelt that wrong) Kenobi’s saber BOUNCES OFF Stormtrooper armour…over 100 million dollars in budget, and they can’t edit the saber cutting off an arm or a head? I swear someone made a video of a re edit of that scene that had the sabers actually cutting there head and limbs off? Those are all the things I could think of in the moment. Sorry for rambling, but hearing the script just made me want to rant. If you’ve actually read this, I thank you for doing. If I’ve gotten anything wrong please correct me and I apologise for getting anything wrong. Have a good day, and may the force be with you! (Star Wars video, i had to, okay now i’m gone)
Maul and Vadar in the sams film would have hyped the audience so much because then we'd all want to see Vadar and Maul cross paths and fight which would have been EPIC. Two apprentices to the same master fighting over who was the better sharper apprentice, who had the greater anger, and who deserved to be at Sidious side to then take over the galaxy and kill Sidious. That would have charged the fandom ssooooooooo much.
Well it wouldn't even be a fight if Maul challenged Vader. Probably the reason why it wasn't attempted in any of the film and series. Of course I wouldn't mind seeing them try, but there going to have to have someone backing up Maul if he faces Vader, probably Obiwan.
@@doctorfate6414 No, more like a 2 v 1 duel. Vader is just to powerful for Maul to duel alone. He isn't in the same league as Vader, to make that's scenario possible, he will need someone to have his back against Vader, like Obiwan.
Id pay to see this version of Kenobi. Id pay 250 dollars AND MORE to see Maul, Vader, Cody, Luke, Anakin all in one show or movie. I wish there was a world where we could just write off the kenobi show, and say its not canon and make a NEW kenobi show featuring this. Fumbled a MASSIVE BAG which could have brang in ALL AGES OF AUDIENCES because it had luke, anakin all of those guys.
Jeez im halfway through the video i cannot believe they didnt go with this. Its like theyre hell bent on keeping fans upset. Someone make a freaking fan film of this
You're absolutely not the only channel talking about how Star Wars has become. Many creators have been complaining about this for years since Last Jedi.
I don’t know how reliable this is but fuck me that sounds soooooo much beter than that cesspool of a series .. should have been called kenobi a story of missed opportunities🥴🥴
Seems like Beatie actually understood star wars in writing the original scripts. Sad to see that they axed him for people who really didn't understand it at all
You're not the only one, you're a large channel and you are one of the few large channels talking about it. Because so many others have stopped caring about Star Wars...which in my opinion, means they didn't have it as a passion, they had it as a hobby. Keep doing you bro.
@@spectre1999 It would fit better, but it still misses the whole point by having Vader and Kenobi meet. When that happens, it just becomes fanfiction-tier stuff that you have to suspend disbelief for. A good plan for the series would've been an adaptation of the Jude Watson Last of The Jedi novels, that's where Obi Wan links up with Ferus Olin
The fact that they left out Obi Wan taunting Anakin on mustafar with "Hey Padawan... try spining...I hear that's a good trick!" before cutting him in half is jus criminal
The fact that they had a good script and gave us what they did is undeniable evidence that they themselves don't know Star Wars and never did. If you are gonna hire a guy and that guy gives you something good and you throw it away for your own ideas. I think not only are you a fool for paying that guy but a moron for thinking you can do better.
Could've been a quip war like; "I remember this being easier" "Well we had an army at our back then, Cody." "One thing hasn't changed, General." "And what's that?" "There's still an army at our front!"
I think Disney's mindset is that they want to appeal to a new generation of children/teenagers. They aren't interested in paying respects to George's legacy. For some reason they think there would be more money in making new fans of a whole other Star wars.. if they did their due diligence and picked writers who love star wars they could have accomplished both of these goals.
Nobody cares about the new Stuff they put out. Nobody. This isn't appealing Current generation kids or teens. Nobody is interested in the current star wars they have. It's all their faults; they did it themselves they won't receive forgiveness unless they repent take discipline and punishment for it & nobody wans go forward with punishment and discipline for their actions and bad choices. Sorry there's no other way around it. No bad sinful deed goes unpunished. God knows that. & He sees everyday. He's watching right now. Sees me typing & reading while I go. If you can't pay the price don't do the sinful crime deed. It's true. And they have done way more than one crime. It's not good. They maybe perceive & falsely believe they can shrug it off they can't. They know they'll pay it one day one way or another. They had coming for too long. Only way out is facing up their doings & asking for forgiveness and mercy. If not they're un salvageable. Period.
I mean they set up stuart beatties draft ideas again in Bad Batch and then had Cody go off and never appear again. So logically he may be off to try find Obi-Wan. And that leaves it open for Old Cody and Obi-Wan in one last story together in live action. I think Temuera will do Mando and Grogu as Boba and then Ahsoka S2 as Rex and Wolffe and then he'll be free for about a year before the Filoni finale movie films so they can grab him for a Kenobi S2.
A lot of this is easy to figure out. Characters are now created because of thier preferences in sexual partners and the color of their skin as well as if they are male or female. Setting a message for Disneys' opinionated current earthly ideals take top priority over fairy tale space opera Fantasy stories where you're literally wanting to escape from anything resembling current Earth politics. Because of this the stories are garbage most of the time and people who aren't the most qualified for the job get the job based solely on their DNA and political views.
i sent this to my cousin with the message “wanna get pissed?” this would’ve been so much better than what we got.. sigh.. it seems lately in all aspects of culture, the bare minimum is too much to ask for
12:51 this , this right here. Not to mention the time that is passed to not recognize this. I would 100% be okay if Disney said, hey, we know we messed up a good story to a legacy character so we’re gonna make it right. Then they go on to make these movies. Exactly how it was intended. Disney, you guys can kill it if you did this.
It's absolutely insane. I've not watched this video until now, cause I'm apathetic and completely checked out from Star Wars, but just hearing the synopsis of the script being read makes me want to cry. This feels like Star Wars, and it feels like what someone that understands Star Wars would be able to put together that revolves around between-trilogies Obi-Wan. Like Theory said, I haven't heard anything here that makes me pull back or lash out. It seemingly beautifully connects with both the prequel trilogy as well as the Clone Wars. It puts Maul and Vader onto the same playing field. It explains why Obi-Wan remained a hermit in the desert without approaching Luke in the original trilogy. It pulls out a lot of what fans really loved about the prequels and the Clone Wars and connects with the originals while not only avoiding to mess with what's there, it actually makes some things better. To have this at your fingertips and then serve us what we got in the Kenobi series is unforgivable. I have a hard time ranking it in terms of how unforgivable and disappointing it is, but it's up there with getting Mark, Carrie and Harrison on board for the sequel trilogy and not put them in ONE scene together. Fucking hell, I almost wish I hadn't watched this video. Something I thought was already dead and buried inside of me stirred.
Dude someone make a freaking fan film of this OG script man id love to hear that exchange between Vader and Palpatine about Kenobi and Yoda. Much love to Theory and the Community!
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
In this context there would be. In Rebels we see them meet in…2-3BBY? Maul had believed Obi-Wan to be dead by that point, so anything else would’ve just contradicted Rebels. Then again Rebels has a lot of stupidity of its own
The Kenobi Show how we got it really broke me. I was hyped for that show for years… And we got a shit fanfilm. Hearing what could‘ve been hurts, the incompetence of disney is mind boggling.
That script was literally the best Star Wars story idea I’ve heard since the Original Trilogy. The fact that they passed on that shows that Star Wars is dead as long as it sits under Disney / KK
The fact we coulda had Obi-Wan, Maul, and Vader in a project not named Rebels and they PASSED ON IT is all time high treason.
That would have been a mess though, but this is definitely a mess nonetheless
Disagree. We already have enough content with all three of those characters. I'm sick and tired of the same old boring generic Skywalker Saga time-line. I wish they'd either pick DIFFERENT characters to write stories about, or go to an entirely different time period and write different stories.
You'd think two animated TV shows, an animated movie, three tv shows, and 11 movies would be enough, but no, they keep making more. Now there's even another Rey movie coming out.
WHAT ABOUT A JANGO FETT MOVIE BASED ON STAR WARS BOUNTY HUNTER????? It would be a really good movie showing the competition between Jango Fett and Montross for the contract.
@@TheJoker-gg8hc it would be cool to have a Jango get movie but they will definitely mess it up. Look at book of boba fett, they had all the material to make it good but they still mess it up. All they had to do was look a legend material but no
@@TheJoker-gg8hc I think the reason people would rather have more of Vader/ Maul/ Obi-Wan and the like is because they're already established main players in the Skywalker saga and that's safer to explore than shoehorning in half-baked side characters who'll ultimately take a back seat in the over arching story that just feel redundant and fan fiction-y. Bit of a waste of time imho.
However I do partially agree with you. I especially agree with the bit you said about exploring a different era entirely with new fresh characters. Big thumbs up on that one. I've been saying to my IRL buddies for a long time now that I wish they'd either go way into the future to where Palpatine, Vader, and the Skywalkers are nothing more than mere legend in that timeline where people question if they ever truly existed at all OR, conversely, go waaaay back to the past before the idea of a "chosen one" isn't even an idea that could be possible.
The Star Wars universe is so rich with lore that there's no reason to be anchored to this small section of time anymore. Disney would be better off striking out trying something entirely new than to keep taking a bludgeon to an already loved, albeit done to death era
Id pay to see this version of Kenobi. Id pay 250 dollars AND MORE to see Maul, Vader, Cody, Luke, Anakin all in one show or movie. I wish there was a world where we could just write off the kenobi show, and say its not canon and make a NEW kenobi show featuring this. Fumbled a MASSIVE BAG which could have brang in ALL AGES OF AUDIENCES because it had luke, anakin all of those guys.
This is Disney Star Wars in a nutshell.
"Would've, could've, should've."
“But I like her ideas better”
Potential Man the Series?
Alexa, play "Woulda Coulda Shoulda" by 2 Chainz
"Let's stick it to the strait white middle age males"
Amen to that brother
I actually wish this never leaked. Knowing this is what we could have had just makes me even angrier with what we got🤮
They should fire whoever thought not to use this script but used what we got and never touch anything for movies or shows ever again.
@@bigduelssevens2309you can thank the director and kathleen kennedy for that one
no cap
fr this makes me genuinely sad
For real bro
It doesn't matter how polite or nice we are. We constantly get called all sorts of names for not loving the show
Bingo…
This trend of insulting your own fans your own customers not a smart move it never is
Yeah, I get called racist, I just don’t like the show or dark ones
The show is god awful, it’s literally like children wrote it but even the Leia actress thought some of it was ridiculous
When?
Disney: “But what do these great ideas have to do with The Message?”
“The message”
"The Message"
Exactly. Hardly anyone mentions Disney's coveted "Message"
@@GlobBucket The message is nearly everywhere in various industries via ESG as far as I've seen, but Disney's push of it is one of the most noticable as they have corrupted beloved IP's with it lx)
@@boomguitarjared Don't forget that they constantly change their language; it's now starting to be called BRIDGE.
In the words of Krennic: "We were on the verge of greatness; we were THIS close."
WORD!
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They "choked on their aspirations"
“MaKE iT MOre LamEe!” KK in South Park
i love that episode, but saddly everything is real
"PuT a ChiCK iN It!"
@@ilovebeingoodyes female bad
And make it gay!!!!!!😂
All canon lol
Scripts leaking like this is basically the equivalent of Anakin/Vader finding out how much the Jedi Council didn't trust Anakin. It just causes more anger.
4:20 The part where they mock each other for not killing Kenobi and Yoda would have been amazing
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
WE WERE ROBBED 😭😭😭😭
the first real " dozens " game in Star Wars.
( Insert supa-hot-fire's black kids reaction video after Vader snaps back @ Palpatine. )
😱 Ohhhhhhh!!!!
It’s literally perfect writing, doesn’t get better than that. It shows their relationship perfectly, Palpatine sees Anakin as a failure and both have so much hostility towards each other
PLEASE, you, and EVERYONE, if you haven't already, embrace the One True Only God YHWH Jehovah, Only One Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son and Lord and Savior of our souls and the Only One Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord. Jesus IS coming. Your soul depends on it!
I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
A de-aged Luke Skywalker fighting Obi-Wan on Mustafar, and as a vision of what COULD happen??? Why the fuck didn't we get THAT????
Personally that just sounds dumb. Too fanfilm/fanfic
@@Hockeyhobo89personally , it’s leagues above what we got so
broooo fr
@@Hockeyhobo89agreed
@@Hockeyhobo89rather have fanfic than disneyfic
What I keep learning from these scrapped story leaks, is that Disney, at every step of the way, stepped on the toes of talented people who actually cared about what fans wanted to see. Corrupting their vision until it was a 'safe' corporate product
Bingo. We got the Reeva show instead of this masterpiece. Sucks
That's because Disney is more concerned with political activism (thus hiring people that are more concerned with doing their "social justice") than with telling compelling stories and alongside this, these same people are terrible writters even without their activism.
@@DOWN2MARZZ”which is when Reeva steps in and…” “is Reeva a woman?” “…yes?” “say no more we have our show”
And this is why things keep getting worse. When you punish everyone with good ideas the only people left in the business are the people with bad ones.
Yeah, so safe that it ruined the reputation of star wars forever
So…. You’re telling me that we were robbed of this masterpiece of a story?!
Are we taking Crazy Pills?
The story sounding good on paper dies nothing because it’s gonna get ruined by Disney
The worst part is that Ewan was on board for the movie, and liked the concept... and they STILL scrapped it!!!
Not to mention Liam Neeson would have been on board too..
It wasnt lame & gay enough
Even Hayden, and Mark?
Take it a step further, Ewan knew of this storyline, and lambasts people for being angry at the crap Disney has been producing.
Not having Cody in kenobi was such a big mistake, even more so given his single appearance in bad batch before going AWOL
I feel so bad for Tem. First they wrote Boba terribly in his own show and gave half of the show to Din despite being called “The Book of Boba Fett”, then they ghosted Boba in Season 3 of The Mandalorian and left Tem hanging on the phone, then they ghosted Boba in The Bad Batch when the series is literally centered around his sister, and now this with Kenobi. I already find it somewhat messed up that Dee Bradley Baker voices so many of the clones while Tem/Jango is the clone template. They should make it up to Tem by giving him a gritty and mature Jango Fett animated series to voice in. Tem is one of if not the most passionate Star Wars actors when it comes to his characters. He deserves so much better. Tired of the Fetts being ghosted when they’re basically the OG Mandalorians, the OG Bounty Hunters, and Boba is the OG Clone. Give Tem an animated Jango series, and let him go all out in it. No childish kiddie garbage. Make it gritty, violent, and ruthless. The complete opposite of The Book of Boba Fett.
I completely agree.
@@SecondBreakfastAndThreeH-zo3jpwhen din entered was when book of boba got good haha. They really fucked that show up. Cool to see cad bane though
@@SecondBreakfastAndThreeH-zo3jp essentially jango's bounty hunter game in an animated series lol
@@SecondBreakfastAndThreeH-zo3jpyeah, I hate bakers voice and what they did to the clones in the shows. Them deserves better
It actually hurts inside to hear about what could have been. It's legitimately heart breaking.
True bro, i was just staggered when I heard how good this was. I am shocked.
And even if they wanted to make a show, why didn't they stick with this kick butt story?!?!?! Idiots.
This demonstrates a rather important point. There is talent at Disney, and they're capable of writing good and compelling stories. Something, or someone, is intentionally stopping them.
This rings more true with the existence of Andor
Andor is absolutely fantastic. I heard a rumor that it was cancelled I hope that rumor is wrong.
Definitely something
I think kk or someone like her who has some power at Disney knows some dark stuff n she’s blackmailing too keep her job and shit shows getting greenlit
Maybe... She has a lot of people who follow her orders, I'm sure she does a very good job getting the people above her to not hear her flaws and lie about the narrative@@therealassassian1048
After watching this I'm convinced... Disney will never make another good Star Wars product. It's physically impossible for them... Unreal..
Seeing the script they had makes me hope, HOPE that they come to their senses one day and let someone knowledeable write them in the future.
Disney has made some terrible stuff however u still have to remember rogue one, clone wars s7 and andor
I agree
I could tell after kenobi. If they couldn't get that show, or the previous ones right, then they're hopeless
Andor is S tier, Rogue One, Mando season 1 and 2 and I even liked Solo for its war scenes.
I don’t know, man. Sneaking Leia through the heavily guarded inquisitor fortress in his trench coat is obviously a much cooler story.
OMG that scene is so bad!!
It doesn't even show how he got the trench coat. One scene he is in his robes, and BOOM, random disguise attire.
Peak story telling objectively
I’m sick 🥴
The thing is, if they understood Star wars, there's an obvious way to fix that scene. The T-47, commonly called snow speeders, has a tow cable for retrieving cargo crates. Leia and Obi-Wan hide in a crate that is wheeled out by Tala, then have the t-47 use its harpoon and tow cable to snag the crate. You could even have Tala give orders to a droid to place the crates at the entrance of the hanger and have her hide in a crate as well. The speeders swoop in and grab the crates in seconds, instead of taking up time laying cover fire and parking for everyone to get on board. Much more believable. Especially considering the T-47 is a two person craft.
Dude…. Vader clapping back at Palpatine “Yoda is the other threat. Pity you failed to end him my master” and then Palpatine doing like a cross galactic force choke or lightning on his suit to circuit his breathing would have been AWESOME
I can imagine if turning around straight away and walking off like a mic drop
Hey master, remember when you were on your knees begging Mace Windu like a little bitch?
Cross the galaxy force choke? That would've been the stupidest thing. What you gave is an example of why I despise fan made content. Fans are not good at making content.
@@Cujo5 Vader LITERALLY force Chokes across the galaxy in ESB in Admiral Ozzel. Palpatine LITERALLY force chokes Dooku through a monitor even further than Vader does. Go watch a movie or anything Canon.
@@Cujo5 Go rewatch the Star Wars OG trilogy and come back to delete this comment; you're not a real fan
"Stormtroopers have poor aim"
Does everyone forget those troopers on the Death Star were TRYING to let them escape so they could track them back to the Rebel Base.
They have bad aim in every movie.
Unfortunately they took that...and said "No they still miss, they just suck as a trained army."
I honestly think they flanderiized the troopers since the OT
Yes. They always forget that killing the boss's kids might have been bad for their health.
I don't care if it's established canon. Stormtroopers having bad aim will always be fucking stupid.
Like I said in the past, Im glad I grew up with Star Wars, not Disney’s “Star Wars”.
Same here
Same.
Same!
But yet you were probably one of the ones who bitched about the Prequels causing Lucas to sell in the first place.
@@mattt233 the prequels are way better than Disney’s.
At this point I don't even know if Disney knows Cody exists..
They put him in bad batch bro
@@paqshet4648for one ep and then forget about him we don’t even know what happens to him after he leaves the empire and we don’t even see him leave we get told this by rampart
@@paqshet4648 bro he disappeared after that and hes now disreguarded but even then he should've been in something way before the bb
Seriously, what the heck is with DisneyWars fans' obsession with Rex?
@@MegatronJon8OMG, character from show I like! As long as character I like is in media, it doesn't matter how bad the content is! Honestly, bad batch wasn't terrible like other recent stuff, but if Rex appears in another show, I'm gonna lose my mind even though I have liked the character
If there is a multiverse, we live in the most shitty one.
Who broke the reality 😢
Had to be someone from Disney bro…
I've been saying this for years we got to find Rick Sanchez and have him take us to the the universe where George Lucas never sold Star Wars and directed the sequel Trilogy himself and had hired a team of passionate fans to co-produce
@@Dsturb85 agreed man. Let’s do it
If there's that multiverse where KK actually cared what George would've wanted and continued making good star wars media. we live in a horrible universe
Wow. It almost feels worse to actually know that Disney had within their grasp a script that was so beyond competent. That honestly sounds like it could've been up there with some of the best Star Wars films, certainly better than anything Disney's produced thus far. The attention to detail in character and narrative, and actual logical development in those areas is unmatched in anything they've produced.
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of the abandoned Kenobi script? I thought not. It's not a story the Disneys executives would tell you."
What I love is that your reaction to initially hearing Beatties plan to have Kenobi leave tatooine was "Hell no" similar to a majority of people, then when you heard how they would actually implement it, you came around to the idea and that shows how to take a normally unpopular idea like Kenobi leaving Luke and turn that into a good story beat that even people who wouldn't like it can come around to it.
Something that Disney just can't seem to be able to do with any of their projects.
I think the disconnect is they put their typical money-making film formulas they’re well-Practiced in on a universe that wasn’t built on those formulas. Traditional Star Wars is closer to a WB or paramount produced script than Disney if you compare libraries imo. And Disney’s formula is always about converting franchises into other experiences than the film itself, eg, the park and exclusive hotel and experiences, the toys, and other commodities. All studios want to collect on those things, but there’s like an immediate formula applied to Disney projects to get as much value out of an IP as possible.
The domino effect that that Disney trilogy had on SW has to be studied as one of the all time greatest tragedies in history. When SW Theory said he didn't want to listen anymore bc of how much it was pissing him off that Disney didn't go with this script.. I certainly felt that.
Yes really it caused pain. Like someone took a knife an cut down the Mona Lisa.
This show hurt me more than the sequels ever did. The incompetence from top to bottom is baffling and disgusting. I keep being recommended Andor but I haven’t watched anything since.
My exact feelings, word by word.
My friend, I feel your pain and completely agree but give Andor a shot. Out of all the crap Disney that has been shoved in a true fan's face, Andor is about the best non-force story that I didn't think I'd enjoy. It builds up to explain a side of the Rebellion NONE of us knew about.
The Sequels gutted me, and made me not want to watch anything Star Wars again for about a year. I can't say that about Kenobi, because my hope was already gone.
@@oprime3788damn, you sold me with that last sentence😭 im going to have to tune in now.
@@SimplyyKevv Andor is excellent, and IMO, the main reason is this: the people making it showed respect to the material, to the audience, and themselves. That's it, in a nutshell, and it's also what's completely lacking in Kenobi.
I have a specific memory of Darth Maul being in the Obi-Wan trailer. Saw his mechanical legs trudging through the sand. Heard his voice taunting Obi. It was awesome. That's the version the parallel universe got. Talk about Mandela Effect.
"how dare you tell me to move on" when you said that it instantly made me a fan. I've been a lurker for a while but consider me a certified fan. No one has the right to tell you to move on from an IP that you hold so close to your heart... Thanks for standing up for the star wars nerds everywhere in the world like me.
Hear, hear!
“Move on” to what exactly? Shit like The Acolyte?
Disney couldn’t successfully operate a lemonade stand
At this point I’m all for retconning Ep. 7-9 and Kenobi. This is WILD
Retcon Season 3 of The Mandalorian, TBOBF, and Ahsoka while you’re at it.
I was all for retconning the Disney Trilogy, anyway. There’s only a small handful of actually GOOD and COHESIVE stuff that’s come from Disney Star Wars and you can barely count them all on one hand.
But yeah, the incompetence of why we never actually got this.. It’s actually beyond infuriating, to see it be so mis-managed like this!
Dog I clocked out after the TLJ. I just stick around here on star wars theory to watch the clown show that became star wars cus it’s funny how bad it’s gotten.
@@SecondBreakfastAndThreeH-zo3jp Despite being lackluster, overall they didn't ruin cannon. No need to retcon them.
Then you're crazy lol
It still baffles me on the scene in the background at 6:30 how Anikan doesn't just use his T800 hand to crush Kebobi's wind pipe and just win right there.
Infuriating. They passed up on a good script for Kenobi, a movie fans were actually asking for, because garbage that no one asked asked for bombed at the box office...
Hope that they just take most everything and call it visions and try again when they have a plan that’s been tried and tested.
It would have been a trilogy not just 'a movie'.
How the FUCK….the FUCK did we not get this???? Absolute joke of a company Disney is 😭
Worst part is it's gonna continue at the end of the day they'll make money from anything star wars releases
If you listened to the video all the way through this is actually a Filoni L. Kathleen Kennedy actually said she didn’t like the script. 10:45
@@Darth_Arashi the fact Kathleen Kennedy “didn’t like the script” ABSOLUTELY confirms that said script was pretty decent and well thought out…..
@@harryamer3128 No I think your hatred is clouding you with this one. She thought the original script was better Filoni and Faverau changed it to what we got now according to the video. It’s actually a very very very extremely 1 million KK W.
@@Darth_Arashi no if Kathleen liked the script we would've got it, simple. We didn't get it, plus filoni and faverou had nothing to do with the shows only suggestions. If this was something Kathleen liked, then it would have been released like how it was supposed to be and that is film format. Instead you have incompetent fucks who come on to help write the show yet have never watched ep 3
Disney: "Alright so here's a great idea that the fans will absolutely love, let's not do that, instead let's do something that the fans will hate 😁
And then make sure the cast of the shit show call out its detractors as racists and sexists. Brilliant.
Can’t make good shows and movies when you’re “forcing behaviors”
What is most upsetting about all of this is that it demonstrates that there are competent people inside Star Wars HQ that are just ignored and shoved out.
So unfortunate, and I watched this on the same day that George said this in Cannes: “I was the one who really knew what Star Wars was … who actually knew this world, because there’s a lot to it. The Force, for example, nobody understood the Force,” he said. “When they started other ones after I sold the company, a lot of the ideas that were in [the original] sort of got lost. But that’s the way it is. You give it up, you give it up.”
George is a very rich man he doesn't care
Kathy didn’t like it so she scrapped it and made them make a show about Reva and baby Leia
Yeah! Because EVERYTHING with her has gotta’ be female-centric.. For her dumb “tHe fOrCe iS fEmAlE” crap! 🤨😒
If I was a shareholder at Disney, I would be actively seeking to replace Kathleen Kennedy and her “kith and kin” inside Disney Lucasfilm, as soon as humanly possible.
Bro I have no hated a person more. Why hasn’t she been fired ?????? Like for real doe anyone have a answer
@@Organization_13 THE GLUCK GLUCK 9000
Conveniently ignoring filoni and Favreu’s involvement. Typical
@@Organization_13she knows where the bodies are buried.
There’s a universe where we would’ve had this Obi wan film, Lucas’ sequel trilogy, and the cancelled star wars games. Getting tired of saying this regarding Star Wars but it’s such a damn shame. It’s like what a previous comment said, more “could’ve would’ve should’ve happened”
This would of made sense the reason Ben doesn't tell Luke, Vader is his father. Didn't want to pressure him.
Also why he is vague about the clone war, he doesn't want his view of the past to influence Luke
Remember when Obi wan snuck Leia out 😅 under his trench 🧥 coat
Best scene in Star Wars history and its not even close
Kinda reminds me of Austin Powers hiding Mini Me under the disguise.
Dumbest scene ever no wonder the empire lost
@@JPH2511 i totally agree lmmfao and it was FRAKING hilarious 😂
@@dereklopez9060 yes it is
Lucasfilm: “We turned a 2 hour movie into a 6 hour series”
Normal People: “You could have made the 6 hour trilogy into a 6 hour series”
Not lucasfilms. Disney
Disney really went "wow that script sounds awesome, will do none of that".
just imagine the reverse scene from ESB but between Kenobi and Reva :
Reva: Darth saved me.
Kenobi: No. he is the one who try to kill you. Darth is anakin.
Reva: no! it's impossible! nOOooOOooO!
Kenobi was the straw that broke the camel’s back with me. That one hurt. Waited 17 years for that. I’ve still given other projects a fair shake, but after that one I have NO trust in Disney with Star Wars. We’ll never get the Star Wars we want as long as DEI companies own the franchise.
Book of Boba Fett was more of a let down for me. The expectations were so high for what we got.
Yup both were ass
The Reeva and Leia Show featuring Obi Wan
This script was absolutely incredible. This has made me sad.
Surely, anything they had in the pipe was better than what we actually got.
So apparently Star Wars can break my heart from beyond the grave. It's fine.
All they had to do was say 'Yes.'
They were even smartly hedging their bet - having the first film end on a satisfactory note in case it didn't do well commercially.
All they had to say 'Yes' to one film, the audience would have shown up, there would be excitement about two more Kenobi films, and Star Wars would've been back.
I was smiling this whole time thinking about how awesome this version would have been. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MUND REJECTED THIS????
Kathleen
Disney just driving Theory insane at this point 😂
I am more pissed that we'll never get an official Darth Vader and Darth Sidious moment where both throw shade at each other for failing to kill Yoda and Obi-wan
This just hurts. Who looked at this and said “nah this wont work” but then proceeded to look at the shhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHIT!!! We got and said “HOLY LUCAS GET THIS IN THE WORKS NOW!”
What is wrong with these people? Are they just careless or just completely tone deaf? Or just both???
They literally had a WINNER film, IN THERE HANDS! Written by someone who knows his stuff and seemed to actually care about making a good star wars project!
Instead, we get Kenobi hiding Leia in a trench coat
Reva who didn’t make any sense and was just completely boring to the point you just skip her scenes
Shaky cam for almost all the fights.
Have Vader and Kenobi fight in the worst set choice they could’ve chosen, whilst using shaky cam AGAIN
Kenobi leaves Luke, the Chosen one, the most important person in the galaxy unprotected
Cody is just gone, he isn’t mentioned, hinted at and is just not involved at all. Cody, Kenobi’s clone commander of the 212th battalion, the second most important legion, is nowhere to be seen 😐
Leia, who’s 10, outruns mercenaries, full grown adults, hired by a supposedly competent inquisitor, because she slides down and ducks under branches for which the mercenaries can ALSO see, but decide to run into them because ‘bad guy stupid!’
Reva survives not 1, but 2 LIGHTSABER GUT STABS from Darth Vader and just survives because sabers stabs no longer kill. You have to just slice them and THEN they’ll die…
Reva wants to become grand inquisition because she wants to get close to DARTH VADER and KILL him?!?! ‘BuT ShE WaNts ToO AvEnGe HeR DeAD JeDi FrIeNdS!’
Reva herself has already killed Jedi at this point…and her reasoning is because she wants to avenge said Jedi? Oh and of course she suddenly feels guilty and is now all “oh my god, if i kill Luke, then I’m exactly like Vader when he killed my friends!” Didn’t have that conundrum when you killed all the other Jedi up until then? Okay then…
Spy lady reignites the fire to save Obi-Won…literally moments after Vader extinguished the same flame with a force push…did he just, lag out when the fire was ignited again? ‘We WaNtEd A CoOl BaCk ShOt Of VaDeR In FrOnT Of ThE FiRe!’ Congratulations, you made a decent shot with Vader in it…as if there isn’t already cool shots of him 😐
An entire company of stormtroopers crammed up, shooting at rebel goons ‘with shaky cam again because of course’ missing 95% of their shots because, of course.
Vader pulls down the first ship, RIPS the whole side off of it and then proceeds to just stair at the second ship fly off. Again, why does Vader suddenly forget he has the force?
Quick fix for that scene. Vader has the second ship in a hold, but then all the sudden Reva throws her saber at Vader. Vader stumbles, ship flies off, Reva pulls the saber back in her hand and then rushes Vader and THEN Vader completely out-skills Reva. Boom, problem solved!
Reva kidnapped Leia because she found a connection in the archives…so the ISB never bothered to check the archives then? None of the officers on Inquisitorios checked them? 10 years since order 66, and NO ONE decided to check for any possible connections that Obi Wan might have had in the Clone Wars? Okay then…
“I wont help you! I know full well what the empires capable of because they killed my wife!……..okay you have my help”…i hate my life
This has already been pointed out but screw it. Vader has the entire star destroyer chase down 1 person instead of getting on his own ship his TIE-Defender or a literally any of the other small ships aboard and have the star destroyer chase down the rebels? Okay then.
Spy lady literally SMACKS a stormtrooper in the helmet and he basically goes “OH GOD WHY, AH I CAN’T SEE-oh wait thats normal-AGH!” Way to make them a threat…again…
Purge troopers were put in, had black clone armour, custom helmets and were pretty badass looking. Could’ve had them step out with the inquisitors on Tatooine like how in Fallen order Trilla has a squad of them accompany her. And YET, what did they do in Kenobi? They ran through a hallway, walked onto the platform of the fortress and were killed in BOTH scenes they were…great use of costumes…
Speaking of Fallen Order, you mean to tell me, Fortress Inquisitorios, the main base that was ALREADY broken into 5 years before in the SAME WAY CAL DID! And no one decided to implement more security? How about some dark troopers? Squads of Purge troopers (who are trained to FIGHT force sensitives) patrol the hallways regularly? Have those big tall imperial droids (i forgot what they’re called sorry) with at least 5 or 8 stormtroopers patrol the base?
Do we get that? ANY OF THAT?! Nah there’s just a probe droid and like 2 stormtroopers walking about…brilliant.
1 shot from a blaster was enough to crack the glass 😑 you built your base…in the ocean…and your hallways have windows that…crack from 1 shot from a regular E-11? WHO BUILT THIS?!?!
Reva seriously said to Kenobi “WhY DiDn’T yOu SaVe Us!?” He was literally in the midst of fighting Grevious and commanding the 212th on Utapau. The end of the Clone Wars was at hand, why would he even be on Corascant? (Definitely spelt that wrong)
Kenobi’s saber BOUNCES OFF Stormtrooper armour…over 100 million dollars in budget, and they can’t edit the saber cutting off an arm or a head? I swear someone made a video of a re edit of that scene that had the sabers actually cutting there head and limbs off?
Those are all the things I could think of in the moment. Sorry for rambling, but hearing the script just made me want to rant. If you’ve actually read this, I thank you for doing. If I’ve gotten anything wrong please correct me and I apologise for getting anything wrong. Have a good day, and may the force be with you! (Star Wars video, i had to, okay now i’m gone)
Great rant man!
@@brunopetit17 cheers mate! 👍
DAMMNIT DISNEY!!!WHY CAN'T WE EVER HAVE NICE THINGS??!
You are so right
You probably meant to leave a shorter comment, but then the memories kept coming back. We have all been there, bro.
This is now my head canon.
Maul and Vadar in the sams film would have hyped the audience so much because then we'd all want to see Vadar and Maul cross paths and fight which would have been EPIC. Two apprentices to the same master fighting over who was the better sharper apprentice, who had the greater anger, and who deserved to be at Sidious side to then take over the galaxy and kill Sidious. That would have charged the fandom ssooooooooo much.
Well it wouldn't even be a fight if Maul challenged Vader. Probably the reason why it wasn't attempted in any of the film and series. Of course I wouldn't mind seeing them try, but there going to have to have someone backing up Maul if he faces Vader, probably Obiwan.
@@NuclearNuke41 You mean like a three way duel?
@@doctorfate6414 No, more like a 2 v 1 duel. Vader is just to powerful for Maul to duel alone. He isn't in the same league as Vader, to make that's scenario possible, he will need someone to have his back against Vader, like Obiwan.
Theory! It's all up to you, man, you have to make this a fan film
Theory, you have the script main points. You are a film maker. DO IT!
Id pay to see this version of Kenobi. Id pay 250 dollars AND MORE to see Maul, Vader, Cody, Luke, Anakin all in one show or movie. I wish there was a world where we could just write off the kenobi show, and say its not canon and make a NEW kenobi show featuring this. Fumbled a MASSIVE BAG which could have brang in ALL AGES OF AUDIENCES because it had luke, anakin all of those guys.
How they turned that script into what we actually got is beyond me...
Activism, feminism...one of the "ism"s
What could've been.....
It's still hard to believe that Disney is this incompetent.
i hate to sound cliche, but this would have been awesome, it actually makes reva sound like a well written character
This things we could’ve had. At least we have Theory 🙏🏽
@@sukeynabilen4701 Yeah, if Lucas hadn't been a wimp and sold out to Disney like he did.
We need that trilogy idc they can call the series a mistake and move on
@@erikerice9068 that too!
@@eliezerrodriguez5863 Well yea… Did you just come to that conclusion? Definitely seems like a great guy though 😊
@@thanasis1237 Completely agree. Admit they’re wrong, fix mistakes and cash massive checks. Everyone happy lol
Jeez im halfway through the video i cannot believe they didnt go with this. Its like theyre hell bent on keeping fans upset.
Someone make a freaking fan film of this
All I can do is smh at this one. A fan film with this script would be epic
“Shit hole, mud, diarrhea show” is exactly what comes to mind when I think of the show too.
Lmfao
You're absolutely not the only channel talking about how Star Wars has become. Many creators have been complaining about this for years since Last Jedi.
"Petty you didn't kill him when you had the chance on Mustafar."
"Need I remind you of Master Yoda?"
Damn those two were catty.
Proceeds to Force Bitch Slap Vader
Disney fumbled the ball with this one smh 🤦🏻♂️
No they dud exactly what they intended to do
@@Scottadamsfan3481 Which was?! 🤨
They took a knife and "deflated" the ball. Lol.
@@DamianHowardTV make a garbage show with dei actors and trash the main characters
@@Scottadamsfan3481 Bingo 💯
I don’t know how reliable this is but fuck me that sounds soooooo much beter than that cesspool of a series .. should have been called kenobi a story of missed opportunities🥴🥴
“I ain’t leavin’…. I AINT FUCKING LEAVING”-SWT
George’s original treatments for 7,8,9? In the trash. Original treatment for Kenobi? In the trash. Why do they make these decisions…
Too many heroic white males in those old stories.
Ok, hot take, the whole maul-talon thing for the g-sequels wasn’t any less weird than what we got. Idk it just seemed odd.
@@darthgoetia_n7 cut that part out, and it's still waaay more better. Rather take 9Ws and 1L than 10Ls
Lucas Arts’ 1313 the ultimate bounty Hunter game and Star Wars Battlefront 3 both in the trash
@@McDLT999999999999999yeah true, they are quite racist, disguised under the opposite.
Hollywood HAS talented writers.
They are just ignored.
Or blacklisted
Lmao 9min 50secs into the video when Theory goes "wait that was only 1?" Dude same
Oh I shed a tear at 4:00 minutes the whole Reva story could have been the new balance of the force, “ you killed the children”
What were they actually thinking because this would’ve made them regain the fanbase fully.
At this point I expect nothing but terrible decisions from Disney. In fact, at this point, it’s a shock to me if they make a good decision
I am convinced at this point that Andor's quality is just the universe screwing with us.
I mean isn’t filoni still pretty consistently good with his animated stuff?
Seems like Beatie actually understood star wars in writing the original scripts. Sad to see that they axed him for people who really didn't understand it at all
You're not the only one, you're a large channel and you are one of the few large channels talking about it. Because so many others have stopped caring about Star Wars...which in my opinion, means they didn't have it as a passion, they had it as a hobby.
Keep doing you bro.
It’s nice knowing these scripts at least existed, hopefully that means they just start to make the correct decisions in the future.
And people can make fanfilms with them~
I wouldn’t count on them making the correct decisions lol, like ever.
No it’s too late to walk it back. Kk will never admit she was wrong even after destroying Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Willow!
@@Nightc1tyronin definitely a close minded way of looking at it lmao
@@CraftageNateyes maybe animated versions could be made one day
That woulda been awesome to see instead of whatever the F the Kenobi show was
It was a dream Obi wan was having 😴 sleeping in Tatuin
I was so unbelievably disappointed.
Meh, it probably would've still been crap
@@rl00668 it would still line up better with the existing canon than the show.
@@spectre1999 It would fit better, but it still misses the whole point by having Vader and Kenobi meet. When that happens, it just becomes fanfiction-tier stuff that you have to suspend disbelief for.
A good plan for the series would've been an adaptation of the Jude Watson Last of The Jedi novels, that's where Obi Wan links up with Ferus Olin
13:34 I’ll give respect when they give respect.
This is outrageous!, its unfair!.
🤣😁
The fact that they left out Obi Wan taunting Anakin on mustafar with "Hey Padawan... try spining...I hear that's a good trick!" before cutting him in half is jus criminal
I'm sure it was viewed as too 'problematic.'
Yes, as in, *too good.*
The fact that they had a good script and gave us what they did is undeniable evidence that they themselves don't know Star Wars and never did. If you are gonna hire a guy and that guy gives you something good and you throw it away for your own ideas. I think not only are you a fool for paying that guy but a moron for thinking you can do better.
Could've been a quip war like;
"I remember this being easier"
"Well we had an army at our back then, Cody."
"One thing hasn't changed, General."
"And what's that?"
"There's still an army at our front!"
So we legit could’ve seen Cody again 😐
13:29 weeks ago are vocal but Disney doesn’t want listen to us
I think Disney's mindset is that they want to appeal to a new generation of children/teenagers. They aren't interested in paying respects to George's legacy. For some reason they think there would be more money in making new fans of a whole other Star wars.. if they did their due diligence and picked writers who love star wars they could have accomplished both of these goals.
They haven’t reached anyone new.
@@GrahamCStrouse idk man, I think Mandalorian pulled in a few new viewers; albeit not dedicated fans (probably watched the show because of bAbY yOdA)
Nobody cares about the new Stuff they put out. Nobody. This isn't appealing Current generation kids or teens. Nobody is interested in the current star wars they have. It's all their faults; they did it themselves they won't receive forgiveness unless they repent take discipline and punishment for it & nobody wans go forward with punishment and discipline for their actions and bad choices. Sorry there's no other way around it. No bad sinful deed goes unpunished. God knows that.
& He sees everyday. He's watching right now. Sees me typing & reading while I go. If you can't pay the price don't do the sinful crime deed. It's true.
And they have done way more than one crime. It's not good. They maybe perceive & falsely believe they can shrug it off they can't. They know they'll pay it one day one way or another. They had coming for too long. Only way out is facing up their doings & asking for forgiveness and mercy. If not they're un salvageable. Period.
Honestly a lot of this could be salvaged for a second series.
Indeed, and I hope that it will be.
I mean they set up stuart beatties draft ideas again in Bad Batch and then had Cody go off and never appear again. So logically he may be off to try find Obi-Wan. And that leaves it open for Old Cody and Obi-Wan in one last story together in live action. I think Temuera will do Mando and Grogu as Boba and then Ahsoka S2 as Rex and Wolffe and then he'll be free for about a year before the Filoni finale movie films so they can grab him for a Kenobi S2.
@@JordoF6cool idea but it’s been confirmed that Kenobi only has 1 season
@@QuinlanVoss. True, but plans can change. Ewan keeps pushing it so we will see, might make a s2 Into a movie like it should have been.
I’m so sorry man. At least we all have eachother here. We can all cry together🥺🤬🤬🤬😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Why disney, why? There's a saying in finnish language: You can't compress a diamond out of poop. Disney went and compressed poop out of a diamond.
A lot of this is easy to figure out. Characters are now created because of thier preferences in sexual partners and the color of their skin as well as if they are male or female. Setting a message for Disneys' opinionated current earthly ideals take top priority over fairy tale space opera Fantasy stories where you're literally wanting to escape from anything resembling current Earth politics. Because of this the stories are garbage most of the time and people who aren't the most qualified for the job get the job based solely on their DNA and political views.
lol in hungarian. it's very similiar, it goes like "You can't build a castle from shit"
lmao that's a fantastic expression
Yes yes. A polished turd is still just a turd
i sent this to my cousin with the message “wanna get pissed?” this would’ve been so much better than what we got.. sigh.. it seems lately in all aspects of culture, the bare minimum is too much to ask for
12:51 this , this right here. Not to mention the time that is passed to not recognize this.
I would 100% be okay if Disney said, hey, we know we messed up a good story to a legacy character so we’re gonna make it right. Then they go on to make these movies. Exactly how it was intended. Disney, you guys can kill it if you did this.
It's absolutely insane. I've not watched this video until now, cause I'm apathetic and completely checked out from Star Wars, but just hearing the synopsis of the script being read makes me want to cry. This feels like Star Wars, and it feels like what someone that understands Star Wars would be able to put together that revolves around between-trilogies Obi-Wan. Like Theory said, I haven't heard anything here that makes me pull back or lash out. It seemingly beautifully connects with both the prequel trilogy as well as the Clone Wars. It puts Maul and Vader onto the same playing field. It explains why Obi-Wan remained a hermit in the desert without approaching Luke in the original trilogy. It pulls out a lot of what fans really loved about the prequels and the Clone Wars and connects with the originals while not only avoiding to mess with what's there, it actually makes some things better. To have this at your fingertips and then serve us what we got in the Kenobi series is unforgivable. I have a hard time ranking it in terms of how unforgivable and disappointing it is, but it's up there with getting Mark, Carrie and Harrison on board for the sequel trilogy and not put them in ONE scene together.
Fucking hell, I almost wish I hadn't watched this video. Something I thought was already dead and buried inside of me stirred.
Dude someone make a freaking fan film of this OG script man id love to hear that exchange between Vader and Palpatine about Kenobi and Yoda.
Much love to Theory and the Community!
DuDe SoMeOnE MaKe A FrEaKiNg FaN FiLm...silence simp.
Joxerpixal is making one not with this script but he is adjusting parts of the story
@@JohnSmith-qi6pmshut up. At this point fans with little budget can make better decisions and starwars content than Disney
@@randomcontentguy2521 you haven't been alive long enough to enjoy OG star wars. Know your place, peasant.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
Kathleen "Person that got the Coffee" Kennedy Strikes again
Someone must’ve stepped on a butterfly when they time traveled cuz we’re in the wrong time line. This sounds SO much cooler
Bro that face you made at 10:47 says it all 😂😂
THERE IS NEVER TOO MUCH DARTH MAUL
In this context there would be. In Rebels we see them meet in…2-3BBY? Maul had believed Obi-Wan to be dead by that point, so anything else would’ve just contradicted Rebels.
Then again Rebels has a lot of stupidity of its own
The Kenobi Show how we got it really broke me. I was hyped for that show for years… And we got a shit fanfilm. Hearing what could‘ve been hurts, the incompetence of disney is mind boggling.
That script was literally the best Star Wars story idea I’ve heard since the Original Trilogy. The fact that they passed on that shows that Star Wars is dead as long as it sits under Disney / KK