One thing about Voxters that I found works for me is running a harder bushing roadside than boardside. I use a riptide chubby boardside. Having softer, but more urethane boardside gives me the lean support I need while still feeling very smooth. The harder roadside I think helps maintain a good center when not turning. My front truck has an 87a chubby boardside and a 92a barrel roadside and it just works somehow (I'm 102kg)
I found you can get away with just riding really hard bushings on valks. Currently running 93/93 96/96 all tall barrels at 170lb and just barely getting wheelbite when leaning hard stationary. The extra hardness gives the trucks a ton of center and lets you really dig in to your rails during turns and slides.
I got Valks a few months ago and would have to say everything you mentioned here is spot on to my experience! I still consider myself fine tuning the setup in fact, and it was an ordeal in the beginning. The endless lean messed with my head because I was so afraid of wheelbite. Now just trying to enjoy the process. But glad to also say that I did reach the point where standup slides feel more controlled in contrast to Savants which I was riding previously.
Thank you for another great video. I got to thinking that I would like to see an extended video of you skating downhill. With two camera angles, one on the front and one in the back. I would give us beginners an opportunity to study the moves up close as you do them. A drone angle would be great also. That way we can see the corners as you go in and out of them. Oh and a mic so you can talk us through it. 🙂
My 2 cents on valks (personal favorite truck) is they skate a lot like a freeride cast truck but with stability more akin to a insert or queen pin truck. The slides are super consistent and as such are really popular for freeriding but are still viable for downhill racing. Bushings wise, they do make bushings a bit softer, but I run 90/93 talls normally (kastanas/arsenals) and run 90/95 in my valks, as the boardside bushing does more work. Kegs a duro or two softer is also a good option (90/87 keg). I do like mushy bushings, so HPF is my favorite, as APS is even a little too mushy, but splitting the formulas with higher rebound boardside typically feels good and seems to add more center feel (so HPF/Krank or APS/krank) and I would like that combination more if I did more aggressive downhill as it defines center a little more. Valks Not leaning isn’t really a problem I had as I run my bushings comparatively soft (I guess people around 200lbs would run more like 93/93 in a regular truck) though I’ve only skated the 145-155s realistically (and cruised the slaloms) on varying boards but they still had the stability even with Vastly softer bushings (85/85 IIRC for the 155s I did a slow test run on before I got mine, but absolutely undoable on casts for me) and can see that a micro drop will give less input, especially vs my top mount. Do try the trucks as ordered as the owner sets them up good minus personal preference, but maybe riser just to top mount of you feel you need more lean, and try half a set harder or softer bushings. He gave me 90/93 krank, 93/96 krank for a 45/30, and I do 90/95 93/97 HPF.
Nice review. I have two sets, both v2 on 45/40 and 45/30. Love them. So good for freeriding, stable for the rare occasion that I skate downhill, and they feel so smooth for holding out standups. They don't really tip when you slide, it feels like a hoverboard. I run tall kranks, haven't tried other shapes.
I run 45/25 on the mk2 dh 130mm. Front truck 85a aps tall barrels rs and 85a aps tall chubby bs. Back truck 93a Krank tall barrel rs 97.5a aps tall barrel bs. I’m 230 pounds and I have them setup on a 22 inch wheelbase with no riser or flush mounts. I’ve also got the 5mm rake hanger up front which helps a lot for the lean/turn ratio. It’s not the grippiest way to set them up, but extremely controllable when doing slides both stand up and glove down. I highly recommend trying the tall chubby on board side in the front truck with these, the squish around the baseplate does some magical stuff.
Bro, any chance you could review the new 10" 44 degree RAKED Caliber III trucks? Big improvements with the removable bushing spacer and adjustable rake and Caliber Trucks are in the same price range as Paris, so being able to pick between Caliber III and Paris V3, is a very relevant comparison. Hey, for a future video, why not compare the 44 degree, raked Caliber III and the 43 degree, Paris V3?! They both have a 50 degree model but that's a more carving/cruising/dancing truck. Not stable enough for higher speeds. Great videos and keep up the good work, btw! One of my favorite channels on RUclips. VERY informative!
they might just be trying to nail shit paris' coffin with the open seat design. the rake specs are probably on insta but they might be close to paris as well. they haven't mentioned construction; if they haven't changed the casting process, this would one of the larger differences in my mind (with paris using a cold forge process and caliber using low tolerance die cast) sorry if over-explaining makes me a douche, just feel like it could save the creator at 254 some time
@@downhill254skate Right on! Can't wait to see it! Those Caliber IIIs are getting a lot of buzz since their recent release and there's not a lot of RUclips content on them right now. You should get some views for sure, all my downhill friends and I really dig your channel.
Epic review man! Wanted to know if you have any updates if the bushing seat on the v2s is the same as the v3 since making this review? Currently skating some old ass 2015 ronin pro lites (165mm 40/32deg split) and contemplating taking up an offer on a trade on some v2s. I prefer hands down drift skating #puckdownstillcounts. Thanks bro 🤘🏻
Very cool review on some really interesting trucks. You don’t sound crazy you sound like the professor! I agree with the haircut comment - it’s very good and I’m sure makes you go faster. I just stepped up to some Aera P2s with 8mm axles so I think its 136 truck. I can’t tell you how amazing these trucks are. If there is a queue for reviews can you put P2s in there? I have Rf1s, K5’s both are so reliable and predictable but the P2’s have taken my skating to another level especially in terms of free ride. Sometimes simplicity is the hardest thing to achieve and Kevin completely nails it with the P2’s.
Haha, thanks, I think I will maintain this haircut for a while :) I actually have the p2 review coming soon. It's in the works! I agree man, they're pretty straightforward but they get the job done well.
@@downhill254skate Great! I look forward to it. maybe it’s the combo between my rocket and the snakes but for freeride this is the nicest set up I’ve ever tried.
Good vid a usual. Been intrieged by these along with roja but have never ridden. I suppose the axle nuts are skate industry standard inch? Can't find and info. While I'am a fan of modern metric, I hate truck brands (skoa, extreme norway etc) who insist on going metric. A spare inch nut is allways availible from a board laying around. Not may fine thread metric stuff around. Seen people with problems loosing a nut or jamming on a skate nut to metric threads. Anway, great vid.
I think part of the process is just getting used to these trucks, I went a step higher at first than what mine came with and now I've come back down and might go softer.
Yeah i'd say so. Once you're leaned over and sliding they are super locked in and comfortable. Compared to aeras or paris there is not that tippy feeling for standup toe that can sketch me out.
Great review! I was looking for it to know what all that hype was about. One question, how is the road vibration on these trucks? I had a bad experience with Ronins on rough roads due to the support pin, I was wondering if Valks are the same. And any chance we can see some Rojas review in the near future? We can start an online petition so they can send you a set :)
@@brenodecastropimenta8051 i weigh 185-195. I have two sets of 155mm, one 45 40 and one 45 30, same bushings for both. Krank talls 87 90 front 93 96 rear
How do you have your Ronins setup? I never had an issue with roguh roads when I set up my ronins right. When I used bushings that were too short, every crack I rode over was awful. With the right sized washers and bushings, my ronins felt amazing. it was like night and day. Vibrations weren't an issue on Valks. They just felt as most trucks do. Haha, about the Rojas, feel free to start a petition haha. I'd love to review them, but probably laod sof hoops to jump through to make it happen
@@downhill254skate I had Ronins for a couple of months, but that was like 8 years ago, I'm still a noob now imagine back them. Probably was my fault while trying to adjust them, I will give them a try again if I got the chance. I will send Rojas a message, probably won't be enough, but might be a seed for the near future :)
your specialty is downhill longboards but have u riden bowls or skateparks? what u think of surfskates? i just got few days ago a carver surfskate 30 with c7s
Only DH, may have messed around a bowl ocne or twice, but never had an appropraite board for riding. I was supposed to get a popsicle board from Landyachtz, but it didn't happen
One thing about Voxters that I found works for me is running a harder bushing roadside than boardside. I use a riptide chubby boardside. Having softer, but more urethane boardside gives me the lean support I need while still feeling very smooth. The harder roadside I think helps maintain a good center when not turning. My front truck has an 87a chubby boardside and a 92a barrel roadside and it just works somehow (I'm 102kg)
You fucking eat bread like a duck.
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I found you can get away with just riding really hard bushings on valks. Currently running 93/93 96/96 all tall barrels at 170lb and just barely getting wheelbite when leaning hard stationary. The extra hardness gives the trucks a ton of center and lets you really dig in to your rails during turns and slides.
This couldn’t be a better timed. My valks are on their way :O An extremely well done guide as always 🤘
I got Valks a few months ago and would have to say everything you mentioned here is spot on to my experience! I still consider myself fine tuning the setup in fact, and it was an ordeal in the beginning. The endless lean messed with my head because I was so afraid of wheelbite. Now just trying to enjoy the process. But glad to also say that I did reach the point where standup slides feel more controlled in contrast to Savants which I was riding previously.
Thank you for another great video. I got to thinking that I would like to see an extended video of you skating downhill. With two camera angles, one on the front and one in the back. I would give us beginners an opportunity to study the moves up close as you do them. A drone angle would be great also. That way we can see the corners as you go in and out of them. Oh and a mic so you can talk us through it. 🙂
I have loads of tutorial videos to help with that! They feature my skating from all sorts of angles
My 2 cents on valks (personal favorite truck) is they skate a lot like a freeride cast truck but with stability more akin to a insert or queen pin truck. The slides are super consistent and as such are really popular for freeriding but are still viable for downhill racing.
Bushings wise, they do make bushings a bit softer, but I run 90/93 talls normally (kastanas/arsenals) and run 90/95 in my valks, as the boardside bushing does more work. Kegs a duro or two softer is also a good option (90/87 keg). I do like mushy bushings, so HPF is my favorite, as APS is even a little too mushy, but splitting the formulas with higher rebound boardside typically feels good and seems to add more center feel (so HPF/Krank or APS/krank) and I would like that combination more if I did more aggressive downhill as it defines center a little more.
Valks Not leaning isn’t really a problem I had as I run my bushings comparatively soft (I guess people around 200lbs would run more like 93/93 in a regular truck) though I’ve only skated the 145-155s realistically (and cruised the slaloms) on varying boards but they still had the stability even with Vastly softer bushings (85/85 IIRC for the 155s I did a slow test run on before I got mine, but absolutely undoable on casts for me) and can see that a micro drop will give less input, especially vs my top mount.
Do try the trucks as ordered as the owner sets them up good minus personal preference, but maybe riser just to top mount of you feel you need more lean, and try half a set harder or softer bushings. He gave me 90/93 krank, 93/96 krank for a 45/30, and I do 90/95 93/97 HPF.
I'm running the barrel/keg combo too, but I'm running 90/93 on 45°/25° with cups board side on 1/4 risers with MK2 135-45. Couldn't be happier.
Keg combo is the truth!!
All there is to know about these trucks in a concise, clear, spot on review!
And the adjustable baseplate is so much fun.
Nice review. I have two sets, both v2 on 45/40 and 45/30. Love them. So good for freeriding, stable for the rare occasion that I skate downhill, and they feel so smooth for holding out standups. They don't really tip when you slide, it feels like a hoverboard. I run tall kranks, haven't tried other shapes.
i made some venom 97a pivot tubes from some bushings and they make these trucks feel amazing with venom hpf talls
my man
I run 45/25 on the mk2 dh 130mm. Front truck 85a aps tall barrels rs and 85a aps tall chubby bs. Back truck 93a Krank tall barrel rs 97.5a aps tall barrel bs. I’m 230 pounds and I have them setup on a 22 inch wheelbase with no riser or flush mounts. I’ve also got the 5mm rake hanger up front which helps a lot for the lean/turn ratio. It’s not the grippiest way to set them up, but extremely controllable when doing slides both stand up and glove down. I highly recommend trying the tall chubby on board side in the front truck with these, the squish around the baseplate does some magical stuff.
Glad my experience is consistent with yours! Yeah dialing them in can be aheadache, what bushing setup have you landed on?
mk3 slaloms seem more you're speed. Would love to hear your take one those.
Bro, any chance you could review the new 10" 44 degree RAKED Caliber III trucks? Big improvements with the removable bushing spacer and adjustable rake and Caliber Trucks are in the same price range as Paris, so being able to pick between Caliber III and Paris V3, is a very relevant comparison. Hey, for a future video, why not compare the 44 degree, raked Caliber III and the 43 degree, Paris V3?! They both have a 50 degree model but that's a more carving/cruising/dancing truck. Not stable enough for higher speeds. Great videos and keep up the good work, btw! One of my favorite channels on RUclips. VERY informative!
they might just be trying to nail shit paris' coffin with the open seat design. the rake specs are probably on insta but they might be close to paris as well. they haven't mentioned construction; if they haven't changed the casting process, this would one of the larger differences in my mind (with paris using a cold forge process and caliber using low tolerance die cast)
sorry if over-explaining makes me a douche, just feel like it could save the creator at 254 some time
*nail shut
nice
ooh another typo
I do have some Calibers. In the process of getting some Paris V3 to compare ...
@@downhill254skate Right on! Can't wait to see it! Those Caliber IIIs are getting a lot of buzz since their recent release and there's not a lot of RUclips content on them right now. You should get some views for sure, all my downhill friends and I really dig your channel.
Excellent job verbalizing the feel 🤙
Cheers cuz , im gona buy a set !
Epic review man! Wanted to know if you have any updates if the bushing seat on the v2s is the same as the v3 since making this review? Currently skating some old ass 2015 ronin pro lites (165mm 40/32deg split) and contemplating taking up an offer on a trade on some v2s. I prefer hands down drift skating #puckdownstillcounts. Thanks bro 🤘🏻
WITH THE CLEAN CUT
Is this model discontinued? Or is it the same as their current Downhill version on their website? I just wonder what this ''Voxter'' comes from
Very cool review on some really interesting trucks. You don’t sound crazy you sound like the professor! I agree with the haircut comment - it’s very good and I’m sure makes you go faster. I just stepped up to some Aera P2s with 8mm axles so I think its 136 truck. I can’t tell you how amazing these trucks are. If there is a queue for reviews can you put P2s in there? I have Rf1s, K5’s both are so reliable and predictable but the P2’s have taken my skating to another level especially in terms of free ride. Sometimes simplicity is the hardest thing to achieve and Kevin completely nails it with the P2’s.
Haha, thanks, I think I will maintain this haircut for a while :)
I actually have the p2 review coming soon. It's in the works! I agree man, they're pretty straightforward but they get the job done well.
@@downhill254skate Great! I look forward to it. maybe it’s the combo between my rocket and the snakes but for freeride this is the nicest set up I’ve ever tried.
I'm hoping for a Cole Trotta board review!
Obrigado pelo vídeo maninho , vou adquiri futuramente um Valkyrie eles são muitos lindos
Honestly 150mm Paris'don't really have many downsides for being a cast truck as well
EWWWW I CANT RUN KEGS BRO
that was me ... but I evolved ...
Mmm
Finally got around to really consume this review.
Excellent work, many thanks 🙏🏼
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Good vid a usual. Been intrieged by these along with roja but have never ridden.
I suppose the axle nuts are skate industry standard inch? Can't find and info. While I'am a fan of modern metric, I hate truck brands (skoa, extreme norway etc) who insist on going metric. A spare inch nut is allways availible from a board laying around. Not may fine thread metric stuff around. Seen people with problems loosing a nut or jamming on a skate nut to metric threads.
Anway, great vid.
The trucks use standard inch hardware
Thanks for watching! I guess Papitz answered your question :)
I think part of the process is just getting used to these trucks, I went a step higher at first than what mine came with and now I've come back down and might go softer.
Off topic but nice hairstyle man😂👍❤️
Great review.
Are the Valks more forgiving when doing standup? I feel that that's what you're describing.
Yeah i'd say so. Once you're leaned over and sliding they are super locked in and comfortable. Compared to aeras or paris there is not that tippy feeling for standup toe that can sketch me out.
I was mainly describing stand-ups, but it certainly applies to hands down stuff :)
Great review! I was looking for it to know what all that hype was about.
One question, how is the road vibration on these trucks? I had a bad experience with Ronins on rough roads due to the support pin, I was wondering if Valks are the same.
And any chance we can see some Rojas review in the near future?
We can start an online petition so they can send you a set :)
I have 2 sets of valks and I haven't had a problem with that. They're my favorite freeride trucks i've ever tried
@@cowboy4187 Do you mind telling me your weight and bushing setup you have on those?
@@brenodecastropimenta8051 i weigh 185-195. I have two sets of 155mm, one 45 40 and one 45 30, same bushings for both. Krank talls 87 90 front 93 96 rear
How do you have your Ronins setup? I never had an issue with roguh roads when I set up my ronins right. When I used bushings that were too short, every crack I rode over was awful. With the right sized washers and bushings, my ronins felt amazing. it was like night and day.
Vibrations weren't an issue on Valks. They just felt as most trucks do.
Haha, about the Rojas, feel free to start a petition haha. I'd love to review them, but probably laod sof hoops to jump through to make it happen
@@downhill254skate I had Ronins for a couple of months, but that was like 8 years ago, I'm still a noob now imagine back them. Probably was my fault while trying to adjust them, I will give them a try again if I got the chance.
I will send Rojas a message, probably won't be enough, but might be a seed for the near future :)
Woooh!
your specialty is downhill longboards but have u riden bowls
or skateparks? what u think of surfskates? i just got few days ago a carver surfskate 30 with c7s
Only DH, may have messed around a bowl ocne or twice, but never had an appropraite board for riding. I was supposed to get a popsicle board from Landyachtz, but it didn't happen
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One thing I would say is don’t buy these if you like venoms. They don’t even make pivot tubes for these which is ass.
Valks confirmed milky 🥛🥛
Yes sir
Alien trucks
Yoo, u look like will smith, so cool
haha, big Willy style
0:11 you monster