I would like to see high voltage 16v tests. These amps are advertised as being able to operate up to 17.5v - I think that is where the real interesting value proposition would come up. I commonly see amps from D4S and Sundown going into protect when people run them over 15v. Modern lithium banks often need at least 15v to charge at. So that would be very interesting to see!. Higher voltage often leads to higher efficiency, and obviously more wattage
Jay is a super nice guy, but if he wants to make a resurgence here in the U.S, he is going to need to lower his prices. This amplifier doesn't have much headroom compared to some other 3k full bridge amplifiers that cost less and do rated power at certified, where this one failed to do so. Great review man 👍
Half bridge seem to post better numbers but I have the subs just the rage 8s w riot components FREAKIN AWESOME!! I can’t wait to try the amps , Meade’s been using em forever
Great Job and thank you for doing a full review on this amp. I see people complain about the price. We are not trying to compare this to the ever day budget brands.
Bought this amp on sale @ 319$ seems like it starves at 13.2v in my car . Ordered a JS alternator. Hopefully get it working to power, jusy got in my B2 12V3 sub but it honestly shows cliping (guessing) because the amp is starving, for the price i payed for sub and amp i wish i went with sundown instead. Im running 1/0 for all power, including the big 3 upgrade. Hopefully the alternator helps. If not im pulling all and selling all this B2. I had the EVL SKAR 12 /1500w amp, best bang for my buck. Ran clean on a stock altanator and big 3, My son turn 16 so i gave him that complete set up. Hes stoked, im not!! HAHAH!!
not to be a party pooper. in today's market B2 has high priced equipment. the only way that can be justified is bespoke designs and made in sweden. are they made in sweden?
Never understood where Sweden came from. We are from Denmark. Near all of our designs are bespoke, from Amps to Subs. However, often imitaded. There's a product for everyone, but we never aimed to be the cheapest. If so, we didn't need to do any toolings at all. There is no point in having custom pcb designs and custom building subs either, all on a B² platform. Not on parts you can just pick off of the shelf. For those who mentioned Rage xl increasing in price, yes, they are costlier. A lot has to do with the logistics, but also the fact that you can't compare the 2 subs. The new has an entirely different motor structure, 50% more xmech, better cooling and offers better performance. It comes with the aluminum gasket, again added cost, but a major cost is also the new surround profile coupled with full Carbonfiber cones and dustcaps. It's not composite or fiberglass, but real carbon. Many pay an extra $200 for a carbonfiber option, but here it is stock. Comparing the new xl with the old xl is like apples and oranges.
@@drrckhamilton i've been into car audio for 30 years and you are correct we have more audio choices than ever....have you seen the hamburger helper section at the grocery store
Marts mp 2500.1 for $250. Why would somebody spend twice over for Chinese. Like another guy stated..they about to price themselves out the market. Taramps smart 3 or any other fullbridge would be a more sound decision.
I don’t get it. What is going on with the prices this week of new releases? Did these companies sleep on the fact that Koreans and the Brazilians and the Chinese have come out with superior power for half the money? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
For $569 you can buy a good amplifier! I hope they don't price themselves out of the market riding on what they used to be.
For that kinda money I don't want Chinese made stuff.
what’s a good alternative you would recommend?
B2 is good shit but the prices are outta hand now not in the dd audio level . The b2 rage xl 12 doubled in price . Ill take a jp 33 over this tbh .
I would like to see high voltage 16v tests. These amps are advertised as being able to operate up to 17.5v - I think that is where the real interesting value proposition would come up. I commonly see amps from D4S and Sundown going into protect when people run them over 15v. Modern lithium banks often need at least 15v to charge at. So that would be very interesting to see!. Higher voltage often leads to higher efficiency, and obviously more wattage
The newer models will have a few mods to them, also the power terminals will fit the power output.
Thanks for taking your time to dyno it.
Thanks so much! Amp was a workhorse for sure!
Jay is a super nice guy, but if he wants to make a resurgence here in the U.S, he is going to need to lower his prices. This amplifier doesn't have much headroom compared to some other 3k full bridge amplifiers that cost less and do rated power at certified, where this one failed to do so. Great review man 👍
Thank you so much
@@HiFiVector you're welcome
When you can dyno the Deaf Bonce atom pro 2500.1 or 2000.1 I’d like to know what they can do. Thanks
I’ll try to get my hands on one for a video.
Half bridge seem to post better numbers but I have the subs just the rage 8s w riot components FREAKIN AWESOME!! I can’t wait to try the amps , Meade’s been using em forever
Hard to beat a Taramps Smart 3 Bass and JP23v2.
Those both price under $400 and will hit 3k+ at 2ohm
You left Cab-22 out.
Sweet amp
Great Job and thank you for doing a full review on this amp. I see people complain about the price. We are not trying to compare this to the ever day budget brands.
What makes this NOT an everyday budget brand?
Thank fam I really look forward to your videos
I appreciate that
Great Review and the get 10% off with you code so they will get it for 512.95 and they get 2 year warranty and swag.
Yes your 2 year warranty is a step above for sure. I don’t know any other company offering a 2 year warranty thanks for that.
Bought this amp on sale @ 319$ seems like it starves at 13.2v in my car . Ordered a JS alternator. Hopefully get it working to power, jusy got in my B2 12V3 sub but it honestly shows cliping (guessing) because the amp is starving, for the price i payed for sub and amp i wish i went with sundown instead. Im running 1/0 for all power, including the big 3 upgrade. Hopefully the alternator helps. If not im pulling all and selling all this B2. I had the EVL SKAR 12 /1500w amp, best bang for my buck. Ran clean on a stock altanator and big 3, My son turn 16 so i gave him that complete set up. Hes stoked, im not!! HAHAH!!
Try the Memphis viv3000.1v2 sixfive series.
Only 399 on ebay. Was over 1k when released
not to be a party pooper. in today's market B2 has high priced equipment. the only way that can be justified is bespoke designs and made in sweden. are they made in sweden?
The best thing is that we all have choices.
China he said
Never understood where Sweden came from. We are from Denmark.
Near all of our designs are bespoke, from Amps to Subs. However, often imitaded.
There's a product for everyone, but we never aimed to be the cheapest. If so, we didn't need to do any toolings at all. There is no point in having custom pcb designs and custom building subs either, all on a B² platform. Not on parts you can just pick off of the shelf.
For those who mentioned Rage xl increasing in price, yes, they are costlier. A lot has to do with the logistics, but also the fact that you can't compare the 2 subs.
The new has an entirely different motor structure, 50% more xmech, better cooling and offers better performance.
It comes with the aluminum gasket, again added cost, but a major cost is also the new surround profile coupled with full Carbonfiber cones and dustcaps. It's not composite or fiberglass, but real carbon.
Many pay an extra $200 for a carbonfiber option, but here it is stock.
Comparing the new xl with the old xl is like apples and oranges.
@@drrckhamilton i've been into car audio for 30 years and you are correct we have more audio choices than ever....have you seen the hamburger helper section at the grocery store
@@carlsandrews266
Let me guess.......this is comedy. Am I right?
💪💪👑👍
Price is crazy! You can buy two of another brand for that. 😂
👍👍👍...🙏🍻
nowhere near orion but thats for another day.. as long as you get the advertised power. it passes.
Id rather buy 2 of these for the price of one of those new Kicker Warhorse lol.
Sweet like danish
🤣🤣
Right... with a side of chop sticks and a fortune cookie?
Marts mp 2500.1 for $250. Why would somebody spend twice over for Chinese.
Like another guy stated..they about to price themselves out the market.
Taramps smart 3 or any other fullbridge would be a more sound decision.
Nice amp tho
I wouldn't buy that model. I would buy the half bridge rage 4500.1
I don’t get it. What is going on with the prices this week of new releases? Did these companies sleep on the fact that Koreans and the Brazilians and the Chinese have come out with superior power for half the money? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
For the price, I'd rather buy a sundown or deaf bonce. I'll keep my ruthless audio 10k for $1500
That price point is wayyyyyy to high. They can keep it.
Eh not impressed at all, way overpriced.
That amp is booboo for the price
Jp23 does better numbers and is 100 bucks cheaper than this guy...