The TRUTH About Car Audio CAPACITORS! Testing a CHEAP 12v Capacitor VS IOXUS UltraCap Supercapacitor
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- It's time to settle to debate once and for all with our awesome new Ultracap!!! Are all those cool looking capacitors from Amazon and Best Buy really solving the problems people are buying them for? Do they help with overall voltage drop? Will they increase RMS wattage? What about MAX watts? Well, let's put the myth to the test by testing and comparing with an awesome new product: The Ioxus Ultracap Supercapacitor Module. That's right, guys! We'll even highlight a VERY DIFFICULT test to perform with Tony D'Amore's DYNAMIC POWER demo at the end. Thanks for watching and remember to JOIN THE GIVAWAY by commenting below for a chance to win a UC-31 for yourself!!!!
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the key to a cap working is it HAS to be near the amp it is feeding...that is why the 1f showed positive results. Good video Exo!!!
I wire my liion bank right next to the amp within 1 foot for this very reason . It is huge to put whatever your backup bank is right by the Main amps
u kno he's sensitive lol
@Tsunauticus III he most likely never will lol.. he's about to be 48 but acts 4-8 years old lol.. I could only imagine how many subscribers he has that he blocks.. honestly, I think RUclips should remove the subs that he blocks, I bet those numbers would be a huge change
Tsunauticus III he sensitive a’f talks back online but there will be a day for everyone and sac ain’t far
shout out Steve, I got a SMD distribution block running my system, love the quality👌
I've been watching since I was about 10 years old and now I'm 21 keep up the hard work exo it always brightens my day when you upload
Felt that I fell in love with car audio from him and life of price now I’ve got three sundown x18’s blastin away
As a ASE mechanic and mecp certified advanced level tech I can say that if you are pulling that many amps that your alternator is slowing and causing your belt to slip you are definitely pulling at least 110% of that alternator you need a bigger alt and need to look at the belt, tensioner pulley to make sure it is applying enough tension to the belt so it doesn’t slip
And keep up the good work on these videos very informative and very easy for newbies to follow. Great work and thank you.
I’d like to see a video of this cap vs a second battery...
Yeah thats definitely a good question. Bc I'm not 100% sure if I'm gonna need a second battery, but first I'll be upgrading to a 300a Alt and then a better battery to start off. And Hopfully that's enough, but if not I'll be in this conversation myself.
DonnRonn Bagger I feel like it’s all subjective to your system and what type of power you are pulling so everyone’s is gonna be different but, I bet another battery with a high output amp wouldn’t hurt lol
A super cap will charge and discharge faster than a battery but won’t have as much actual energy storage.
This cap would likely keep the voltage steadier, as long as the alternator can keep up.
the battery would lose voltage during big draws but over all have much more stored energy, kind of a tortoise and hare scenario.
It depends always on whats being used and how it is being used. Remember you need energy to charge the cap and the battery so the Alternators output is key too how much power u can create over a given time. Batteries and caps all store energy they just do it in different ways, The alternator is the only thing creating energy
@@donnronnbagger1727 You don't need a 2nd battery, but if you're investing in a 300a alt, it does make sense to invest in another battery or two as well.
@@Des420 yeah what I was thinking was after putting in on a 300a alt, I just wanted to get the best possible battery that I can, not sure of what my exact needs would be right now, but from that theory, I'm wondering if I will still need another battery in the back, or a cap, or would my system be fine with the 300a alt and a good battery something with over 1k cold cranks, I'd have to look into Ah and all that to see what is my best option. But I'm hoping the 300 alt will be key to not needing a million different pieces of equipment you know
Dude you would make a great teacher in a school setting, classmates would stay interested learning
Especially considering more than half ...if not all
Are r .... Attention deficent &--or hyper active #knowmyownkind lol
I ended up getting the battery form Xs Power Supercaps 500 farad, from you guys, and I love it ! HUGE difference ! Stabilizes the shit out of my electrical 👍 Big improvement in dynamic headroom too... (for kickdrums and other instantaneous bass notes)
Thanks guys 🙂 Keep on it ! Love the vids too.
Great video man!
JP you got some great videos yourself. That's crazy no one knows you here or just didn't reply back. In my eyes you and EXO are RUclipss best audio dudes I want to follow. I grew up in the same era. Love bass. Now I'm a little older and miss those days. Where I live people don't do as much as they did before in the 90s. We used to have SPL competitions and I entered 2 times. I hit 146 and 163 the second time. Nothing crazy. 3 12" pioneers with the diamond plating subs in custom made boxes and a 15 inch kicker xpl square sub which just came out at that time. All in my little 90 civic hatchback. Those were good times.
@@PFab 163 port score? off 3 12" Pioneers?
@@lowhertzhighspl port score? Sorry I don't understand that.
Ok
@@lowhertzhighspl kinda what I was thinking lol not even outlaw is them 3 pioneer 12's going to do a 63 lmao
Happy Friday, RUclips!!! Next time someone argues with you about capacitors... Just send them this video 👌😊👌
Don't forget to comment for a chance to WIN BIG!!!
Please make videos more often your pretty much the only person I like to watch😂
Another informative video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
my mom gets anoyed with my subs... i can see why when i have a 10in sub blaring in the houce
That’s the plan lol thanks for the info
Nice video as always, I sent you a email a little while ago and I'm planning a different build so I would love to pick your brain on a few things. I'm going to email you some info.
Been years since I first saw this guy. Always come back to check and see how he’s doing from time to time. OG of the audio game right here lol.
Excellent video brother!
Nice job bro
I would love to win a super cap if I can
Whoever said caps suck is those who bought a cheap 1 farad one.
Whover said caps are good is those who bought a good capacitor. Ending the debate thanks EXO!
I agree
I had one in my car .
But i do have 2 battery in the car.
One for the car IT self.
One for my audio systeem in the back.
This way a faster way to sent Amps .
A battery do not like to sent its power.
A battery whant to keep is .
The 1 farad is make to sent IT fast and not to hold IT .
So that is a Nice combo for your subwoofer amp.
@@dyslectische 1 fared is meant for the garbage can.
@@yougod7253will the one he showed in the video stop my car lights from dimming? Recently got a new amp and it’s causing my lights to dim because of how much more power and harder it is hitting
I've been installing car audio for over 20 years, everything that you said in this video is right and straight to the point keep it up man great job!
I made the ioxus ultracaps! The odds that I contributed to the manufacturing of the one in this video is almost 100% I love car audio and it's awesome to see these in this video.
Nice im trying to get one to run my taramp
Just add to the car or does it have to be charged?
Adam, response would you give me if I asked about the safety of using these despite the recalls? Just looking for saftey
@@jayone2918 you have to charge it before hooking it up, trying to figure out how to charge mine , myself too....
@@royalbooty4657 i been using mine for a couple months no problems. they recalled them bcuz the brackets that held them in place would break open the housing allowing moisture to get it in causing shorts
Back in the day we used caps to save the alternator. Older cars often had like 40amp max alternators. With a big amp they used to pull more power then the battery and alternator could handle, especially over long periods of time. A decent capacitor was often used if you didn't like replacing alternators or push starting your car
My 68 camaro has 69 amp alternator. It’s been along time since 40 amp alternators
@@Thumper68 Some cars still have alternators that will barely supply 40 amps.
Which cars have 40A alternators today?
I remember lol
@@reidnichol9255none
I love your channel bro, extremely informational. I don't know why I didn't subscribe years ago.. I'm self-taught with years of experience by trial and error, starting at 12 years old when I bought my first pair of subs which were two 10-in MTX thunders with the gray cardboard cone in 1994. Your the only one online that I found that can answer the questions I have to the best of your knowledge without taking sides or trying to talk up a certain favorite brand..
In my eyes, for sure a trusted source of car stereo information, while breaking it down for people to understand. THANK YOU, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
Watching Exo with all his energy makes my day” keep the vids coming, ps I can really use the ultra cap that’s what my system is missing. Showtime FTW
Finally, I have been wondering about all the caps. Good to know what is actually the difference.
I know what you're saying you done.Real good On this project, everything looks perfect to me. I'm 35 years old right now. I was diagnosed with 2 tumors on my brain. So now I'm on disability. I was a big time based said myself. I still am, but I can't afford to buy a system on disability. Watching your videos gives me the The excitement that I have when I'm listening to a system. God bless
Bro you’re like freaking Bill Nye of Audio 🤟
Not many of us old enough to know who bill is bro😂 we made it😂
I am an Electronics hobbyist & former installer. This video makes total and complete sense!
I understand why you need to explain it to the average person, so that they can understand. It's all about capacity. All capacitors can accept a charge & discharge extremely fast. Some faster than others. But you throw that many farad's in a capacitor Bank, backed up with voltage regulation and Bluetooth. You got plenty of juice to make your Bass Thunder hard!
Nice demonstration brother!👍🇺🇸
It's nice to see someone else other than me taking time to teach the younger generation how to understand the electricity around them I would really like to have one of those batteries in my Jeep for my stereo system thanks
Could really use the ultra cap for sure! Love the vids, long time subscriber, learned a lot from watch you over the years my man! Keep up the high energy, knowledgeable, kick ass vids dude!
I actually recently acquired a regular capacitor the other day and was tossing around the idea of installing it but I'm not sure it would be worth messing with.. love your videos man. Good vibe and good info. Keep on keepin on man.
I bought the uc-31 strictly because of THIS video. Needless to say, I am not disappointed. I am now able to run a true 3k amplifier without a high output alternator. I have done the other necessary upgrades such as big 4 and quality ofc wiring. Going by the app for the uc-31 on the hardest hitting songs my voltage stays right around 14v. At idle it stays at mid 13's. Thank you Exo.
Hey great info on capacitors that made me wanting to get one now for my setup, you made it plain and clear on how it works and how to hook one up. Great Job on the video. Thanks Bro.
Never noticed a difference when I had one
Never was a fan of Capacitors. Now running a 100AH Limitless Lithium and very happy!!!!!
I've watched this video at least 4 times over the years, I finally just purchased one of these things so I'm here for another refresher before it's delivered.
Love that you were able to become part of Showtime Electronic's team. You deserve it man! Great video btw!
EXO always goes above and beyond to make educational content fun and inspiring. Keep up the hard work mate.
I'm a new comer with 2 sets of 15s 1 set is a pair of kickers cvr 07cvr152
And the other set is skar sdr-15 d2 and I'm putting them in a 2007 Town and Country minivan as of right now I am surprising everyone to come across me but thank you any way ahead of time
How awesome is it that you got comments from Big-D, JP and the Godfather of car audio Steve Meade. EXO doing it right.
I think you need a new belt man. It was squeeking even when you started it.
Great vid as usual. Thx for the info.
That's because the battery was dead, huge inrush draw as soon as the alternator turns fast enough to make power.
prob needs a timing belt and water pump too.
Always good to see technology move us forward. Never had a really high powered stereo. Whole vehicle power has never broken 1000 watts. Compact 4ch in the front and a 350 watt sub amp on a single 10. Yes, my Jeep suffers from the headlight dimming.... Maybe one day I'll upgrade the alternator. LOL
You're a super cap Exo! Lol, but seriously thanks for keep the energy in audio art alive! And yes my 02 Tahoe (2 classic Memphis 1000d and 2 M6 15s) could use a super cap even w 2 alternators!
I'm glad to see someone showing people the difference between a regular cap and a high super condensing cap that holds power for a long term time because there's more parents in the super capacitors than the regular capacitor thank you
I made my own up to 16V 500 farad capacitor bank using 6 3V 3000 farad cells connected in series without any electronics 2 years ago. I put all that in a foam padded plywood box and just hooked up in parallel with my car battery. My car never has a problem cranking over and I have no voltage drop at all with my current 1000W audio setup. I can start my car several times without the battery using this too so it doubles as a jump start booster pack.
While the Maxwell ESM was the OG for ultracapacitors used for engine starting (hence the name Engine Start Module) I really want to see more companies offering these, and the unit in the video is a great start.
I got to say it’s nice to see somebody that gets right to the point and stays on track of their subject as I am impressed with the capacitor bank batteries in a multitude of directions I personally am a fabricator\machinist your demonstration of the capabilities of your capacitors Was one of the most direct and visually affirmative fax clarifying quite a few directions of misconceptions I just want to say I think you would have a lot of success featuring an electric vehicle being outfitted with a similar type capacitance that not only peaks your stereo performance but turns your electrical drive motor in a similar type performance upgrade as this is something that I’ve done to mine I’m exceptionally impressed by the acceleration increase and think he would have a blast with the overall results and most of all I’m excited about your excitement this is the kind of stuff we need to teach the next generation so we don’t lose our builders and technicians in the future I’d like to hear more about your contest to win a capacitor bank So I subscribed And look forward to seeing more of your videos stay safe have fun and stay loud
Been subbed for years since you got me back into car audio.
Exo my friend, thanks for giving me knowledge throughout the years. Can't wait to see what you do with ur Nissan bass ride!
That would definately be a helper on my next build. Slowly upgrading when I can
same just a lil budget build
Sometimes it's what you have to go with because of low funds my friend. A lot of people just don't have the money for the upgrades. We just use and get what we can afford even tho there are other products that do better. As always thanks for sharing this my friend. Love your videos.
When I had my first system installed the installer put a capacitor with each of my older amps.
He said the older amplifiers needed the support.
Definitely informative! Seems that I would benefit more from a supercap vs just a gel cell 12v or lithium.
This video made me subscribe, sorry Exo this is my mid teens video of yours ive watched, liked and learned from! Now ill never miss when you upload new knowledge because i turned notifications on 😉
I wold like to see a review for Subs from the Company GroundZero
Love you stuff dude ❤️
Me2
The most edifying video that I have found on RUclips so far. This guy certainly knows his stuff. I will certainly know what to go out and buy. Thanks so much for this video.
I remember when there were only a small amount of subs on this channel I hope I win this super cap man my electrical will thank exo and show time lol
You are such a showman! Well done EXO. Thanks for putting it together for us.
This entire video is pure gold 🪙🪙🪙🧬🧳🧏🏻♂️ 🎥🍿😲🍿
I remember when a 1 farad cap was badass back in the day... like over two decades ago. And to think you can now have 375f at over 14 volts is insane. I want one of these so bad.
I used deep cycle boat batteries, gel cell, or glass mat. I thought that was the answer. I'd love one of these too.
I learning electonic, doing my 5. year in school, i was suprised when i saw u know how capacitors work in series :D! aand i would love to get one of those sup caps :DD
Some people are born with genius level IQs and could learn all this in a matter of seconds, all by themselves. Just proves being xXBXXNXx can be a waste of time sometimes.
Thank you very much for the explanation of the CAPACITOR.
Now after watching this I feel better on getting what I need to finish my built thanks once again . May you continue with your teachings
I’ve been a hardcore basshead since about 2008, and I never understood what the purpose of the measly 4 farad caps actually were. I always assumed the companies that made them only did so to make extra money off people that didn’t know anything about car audio
"no cap" funny that cap is an old/ new slang..
I just picked up one of these capacitors from Showtime electronics. Can't wait to install it and see the difference it makes. Thanks for making such an educational video bro
I run a 3 farad cap on my system I’m running 2 sdr skar 12’s and a 1100 watt Memphis class d tuned with a o scope. I also have a platinum agm battery and big 3 done. No problems at all. I stay at 12+ volts in the super low notes 13+ normally no matter how loud and long I run it. I think comparing the two that you did is still kinda misleading to new comers. It all depends on what subs and amp you are running for how much power you need. In my case there is no need to buy a 400 dollar super bank. I’m not running that much power. Doing everything else correctly helps the most like battery, big 3, proper grounds, proper sub wiring. I’m just referring to the smaller systems like I have that get played a lot. I’m not doing demos or hair tricks just personal enjoyment in my work car. So comparing “apples to apples” as you say could still be confusing to new to systems people.
Yea it wouldn't matter if you had a cap regardless. Your battery is pretty much an ultra capacitor. Especially if you have a nice quick discharge agm one like yourself. One farad is good for roughly 50wl watts. After that it's useless untill it charges again. Which it then does, sapping strength from your amp, then when it's charged, it finally shoots it's little load and it starts the cycle over and over and over. Getting a capacitor for a low power system makes no sense because you wouldn't need it. The phrase is "one farad per 1k rms" if your not pushing that why even bother? You're better off either getting a better alternator, or battery and then upgrading the stock wiring. If youre pushing over 1000 rms I'd say then you would need an ultra cap, because like I said one farad is good for ~50 watts vs bam ultra cap with dozens of times the capacity of the shitty $120 fuse you just bought for your low powered amp.
10:14 what song is that??
Sound like k camp chopped and screwed cut that bitch off is the song I believe
lil negroid - jungle fever
Roy Bodin you're one edgy white kid.
I really think is mike jones still tippin ft slim thug and paul waul (chopped and screwed) .
@@roybodin7301 what's the chopped version though
Not everyone can afford these HUGE ultracap systems. Rather than buying those crappy 1/2 farad capacitors, buy a Maxwell BMOD0058 E016 C02 - This is 58 farads, tiny so can fit in anywhere! I've used one in my car for the last 5 years now (mainly to help start the engine). It prolongs the life of my car battery and as it stabilises the voltage system, components like bulbs etc will last longer too!
and it would be amazing to win... i would put it in my moms car to give her some bass if she wonts... bass in the car is fine
That excact cap saved my day today never had to use the jump start until today dead battery was able to get me back on the road absolutely great product
Good video! Plenty useful info! Just ordered one today for 349.99 thanks to the black Friday sale! Can't wait to see what kind of difference it makes!
Did it make any difference im itching to buy one but I don’t wanna waste 400 lol
I was an Auto Tech. A Dead Battery acts like a Short. Dropping the Voltage. Lower V Equals Higher Amps. The 4 Farad would have done a better job if wired directly to the Battery. Instead of what you did. Years ago I had a Profile 100x2 amp. Bridged Mono. Kept Cutting Out when the Sub hit. Checked with a Voltmeter. On Battery Power, Volts Dropped to around 10V. A 1 Farad Cap recommended by Crutchfield Fixed the problem. Also, Caps work as Noise Filters. Blocking the 60 Hz hum from the Alternator.
Love your energy dude, I subscribed 30 seconds in.
You just wait till I stop blowing fuses, tweeters, and amps!! I will see u at show pal! Great 👍 job awesome presentation Mr. EXO
Let me just say i really like the video he broke it down to show the difference about what can do and the difference between power when it comes starting the vehicle it was a great presentation .
The knowledge you give on this channel is the best because it's straight forward to the point!!!!
Love watching your stuff man! Always learning something new!
This guy's all right pretty thorough on his information I think I'm going to definitely watch some more of his videos
I really learned something here that I have been debating in my head for a long time. Thanks!
Ordered this ultracap and an alternator from showtime electronics because of you . love your channel and congrats of the new job!!!
Love❤your Energy. SUBSCRIBED 👍💯
Yo my brother my love you just showing my lovely way of putting things together
Best one I ever seen please keep adding stuff you helped me greatly
I really enjoy your style of audio video. Thank you for the information!
I added a cap to my Memphis set up and it did exactly what I was told it was goin. To do helped with my dimming extremely and just all around made everything sound so much better
What brand
Never a dull moment. I learn new things with each video
I've been a long time fan of loud ass kicking sound and your show sure does help me keep it that way ,so thank you very much ,I look forward to more and more tips
I always watch your videos to refresh my memory on somethings caps are always good for little more battery power
Knowledgeable video. Man I sure need one of those. I'm so tired of getting my battery recharged. Obviously I'm new to today's audio scene. So with covid and lack of work I figured I'd take a chance with some money I had put away to upgrade a stock system so that I could actually enjoy my music. You know, something uplifting. Got robbed on my install so now I'm not sure who to trust and what price is fair especially on my budget. So thanks for putting this out because I would be happy to just hear what I have with a car that actually starts. Good job.
This is exactly what I've been looking for. The dyno doesn't lie... :) Great work!.
The intro perfectly describes how confused I am about capacitors
I am in south Africa 🇿🇦
my group of friends and my self watch many different channels of sound and we found your channel and yes it is fantastic bro loving your shows.i think that would be awesome a super cap wedo spl competition here i have tried to get my car to play with 15 v constantly and can't get it right after10 seconds or over 150 dbs is starts to drain voltage faster till about 12.8 and if i play longer it will probably blow or get damaged
But ja loving yor programs....
Dude I love your videos I have learn everything that I know from you and the cool part is that now I'm saving money and everything is the way I like it so thank you
*Big thanks to EXOcontralto* for this awesome video!
Happy New Year young man!
I've always used a cap in my builds. I've always considered a capacitor to
be like a *"shock absorber"* in the system's frequency flow, letting it build up before
being used, like a quickly discharging battery.
a cap is smoothing out ripples produced by the alternator. for some reason rarely mentioned
Absolutely excellent management of the question. A much needed explanation with well received excitation! You're a character!
I did not know of this product. How might it compare with a LiFe Battery and deep cycle demands? Seems like it might be quite the cake taker across the board. It would be great if you could address this inquiry because you're motivated entertaining and thorough. Plenty of automotive applications as solar power systems are installed stationary and mobile. It would enhance all of our understanding. Rock out when you clock out my good man!
Damn, I haven't checked in with your videos for a while, but man, the overall editing and flow of the video is realllly good! Thanks for the information as well ;)
Keep it up!
As a newbie to sound systems. I bring my industrial electrical experience and diy electrical systems knowledge to the game. My initial assumption has been to reduce vdrop. So I use quality cables/bars, and short runs. So taking this approach. My vehicle becomes the remote generator, and I just built a 600 continuous amp LiFePO⁴ 12v pack with a converter bank for the 14v max of the amplifier. This system is probably overkill but I wanted surge and continuous capabilities so that the voltage just never drops. Running this in a crown vic pi p71 with an upgraded alternator for my other stuff keeps the pack full. I never see dimming or anything weird but I will say the $4,000 price tag for my particular setup is way overkill.
I reclaimed and built into a pack some 60ah lips cells into a pack. I took 16 of these cells for a bigger capacity but 1p will work. The bms on the pack is for 250amps, it effectively does the same as the super fat iron pack for the subs. Kicker is it only cost $400 to make and is next to the amp with a 0awg running from the battery into it for charging. The amp will stay powered longer than the door speakers. I also built a bypass after watching this to allow me to jump my own car instead of having the diodes.
My son in law went to check if I'd turned up the gain on his sub after installing a 2 farad cap.
I'm a firm believer...
Capacitors are the most confusing part of car audio. Most every one says, “just upgrade battery and alternator first” but capacitors are always still brought up.
I definitely need one of these Ioxus super capacitors. Wow, so awesome.
This video was exactly what I was looking for to dispel some myths. You did all the work for me! Thanks
Hey EXO ive been a long time follower but havent been keeping up to date with your content. anyway congratulations on your channel and the professional production value. good on you dude!!
Really like your shows, you explain things very well and the best part, you do things in a economical way.
You always give me a new knowledge about car sound system
Always been a big fan exo since the early days of your channel you helped me install my first system over 10 years ago and done plenty more since then, id love to win that super capacitor just to see if i can gain anymore headroom from it currently driving an old 80 series landcruiser all the door panels are rotted out so atm using a yamaha DBR15 PA speaker in the rear of an inverter as a temporary solution, keep up the awesome vids exo
OMG bro I spit my drink out @ 2:17 that walk took me out i needed that laugh
You have Bill Nye type energy when you are explaining things, it's pretty awesome.
good job on the video putting it together very professionally.. i like the choice in back ground music