The REAL reason the Bronco Tie Rods SUCK
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The Bronco tie rod issue is something that almost everyone has heard about, but I don't believe the full truth has been shared about the issue. In this video, I am going to discuss the root cause of the weak Bronco Tie Rods, as well as what I feel is the correct solution for it, which in my opinion is the Icon Tie Rod kit and the 74 Weld end cap replacement.
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I’d rather the tie rod break than the rack. Grab a few tie rods from Rockauto and the tools necessary for a trail repair.
Yeah absolutely. But if you plan on doing a lift and bigger tires, the steering rack and components have to be addressed. If you’re wheeling at least.
We started out with the BroncBuster tie rod braces, steering rack inner bushing and billet housing end. I ending up getting Icon Tie Rods as well. The only downside I saw with the braces was the inability to re-align without removing. I'm also kept the stock units with the braces as my backup just in case moving forward.
Not a bronco guy but enjoyed the video. And the out of focus wasn’t bad. Don’t be so hard on yourself.
I also have a Badlands , Sasquatch bronco. I did the complete BroncBusters steering upgrade. Tie rod braces, Passenger side Billet housing and driver side bushing. I honestly do not see the need to upgrade the whole rack. Tyler at BroncBusters extensively tests the braces with much bigger tires than my stock 35s.
Every build is going to be different and every person is going to use the vehicle different. I think a full rack replacement is certainly not for everyone though I agree with you there
Great job with the information in this video! I like that you mentioned a company and didn't just throw out some cons about it but actually took the time to explain what the differences are and how to go with a better fix that honestly Ford should install!
Thanks so much I’m glad you enjoyed it. Yeah ford really needs to address the steering rack for sure
Just got delivery on our 2023 big bend in velocity blue with dual tops. Non Sasquatch. Were getting ~28 mpg. We got it as a beach cruiser. So no off-roading it for us. Love all the videos. Keep up the great work.
Oh yeah so this definitely is not a necessary upgrade for you. Congrats on getting your bronco!
Love the video. Ended up with Icon Tie Rods and the RC bushing as a band-aid for now. Did some rock crawling and off-roading in Moab and CO but definitely feel anxious knowing I'll eventually have an issue. Hoping to do the 74 Weld sometime early next year. Love the content!
Right on. Some great info. For now I"m doing Tie rod sleeves and spare tie rods in my toolkit. I don't do a lot of rock crawling in my neck of the woods. Will be looking into the 74 weld housing in the future.
Maybe design the system to not break at all with stock tire sizes?
Good job on the explanation. Add to your point. Many people get bigger tires without considering upgrading the steering system. Hence increasing the load on a tie road that was made for 35" tires.
Yes absolutely! That’s where the bulk of breakages occur from what I understand, but also in an off road, high load environment
Another well done video. Thank you for the information! 👍
Thank you David for your innovative use of soft focus. I don’t usually see people in the Overlanding videos using this technique. Keep up the great work 😎👍
That’s a good way to spin it lol! Thanks man!
Your video was just fine. You probably already know that focus is due to low lighting and close ups. Haha, anywsy, I got the Broncbuster tierod sleeves and the steering rack, bilit cap. I think it is equally as strong as 74Weld. I even go to the same town they are out of all the time. But... anyway, great tutorial and your advice was dead-on. Keep up the good work. I would love to go out there with you one day.
Awesome video bro, I did the whole shebang couple of months back. Got the bronc buster brace, bushing and endcap. I also got that icon tie rods, but haven't hooked them up as I am gonna upgrade my sus. ✌️
I don’t know that I have seen a practical gas mileage video. Can you do a review of what mileage your bronco gets with the mods/fuel storage and terrain traveled? I think it would help educate anyone looking to have their own adventure based off places you have been.
I think the route I may go is to upgrade to the Ford HD rack that comes on the Wildtrak, Raptor and 24 Badlands.
A thousand bucks for a cap is crazy!
The 74 Weld site refers to the end cap (stage 1) as being something good for "light off-roading". I overland and wheel a few times a year- don't do anything too crazy, but do like rock crawling, etc (something like a level 3 at an off road park). Do you think this setup is adequate for that? Or, should I look into their Stage 3, Stage 4 offerings? I intend to eventually go to 37's.
So as you said, strengthening one thing moves the weak point somewhere else. Where do you think the weak point will be now with your current setup?
I personally would love to hear an honest opinion of the extreme duty steering rack that comes on the Raptor/ Wildtraks. I see people upgrading them, but they're only upgrading them because somebody is trying to sell a product. For instance, Kevin/Britney with LiteBrite, their Raptor, I think Weld74 sent them the upgraded cap that you put on.
I see the normal tie rods/ steering racks breaking, but I have yet to see one of the extreme duties breaking, under normal off-road conditions, not conditions where broncbuster is trying his hardest to actually break them, I'm personally am not going to try to break something on purpose.
Obviously the standard tie rods and steering rack need to be upgraded because they do break under normal off-road use.
Perhaps I'm counting my lucky stars that I haven't broken anything yet, but my steering is all stock for a while.
Heck I think Ford is adding the extreme duty steering components to the '24 Badlands?
Great video I looked on their site I would like the stage 3 but little out of range right now, I am going to do what you did when they get some in stock
David, loved the video. Big fan of 74 Weld as they’re right down the road from me and their engineering looks tops!
Question: for most applications, will the steering rack cap and tie rod upgrade you did be sufficient vs doing the entire steering rack upgrade offered by 74 Weld?
Thanks! Yeah those guys are awesome and really know what they’re doing!! I think the full steering rack is for more extreme application. So running massive tires and doing aggressive rock crawling. The end cap and tie rods should be plenty for most everything
This is exactly what I’m going to do. Awesome job on this video.
Good video. The focus didn’t bother me.
Thoughts on the bushing?
I'd just buy the severe duty upgrade from ford and have 8t covered under warranty
Did you install the outer boot clamps on those tie rod boots? I didn’t see it get shown or talked about and was curious if they came with them or if you reuse the OEM ones
I did install the inner clamp. Those were still attached and sealed. There was not a clamp on the outer tie rod nor was there a ledge to even place one. It’s a really dumb design
@@OFFTHEGRIND that’s weird. I’ve worked around a bunch of the steering stuff on the Bronco over the last two years. Never seen an icon boot without an outer clamp. It is a small ledge though. Maybe it’s inverted and just has to be pulled back out? Just a thought. Or you got a wrong boot but I can’t see any tie rod boot not having a clamp on the outer end.
@popo_patty we looked at the actually thinking maybe it had inverted but it did not. Im thinking the sent me the wrong boots maybe? I don’t know why any boots wouldn’t have that though
Now we know the real meaning of GOAT mode . It really means Get Out And Tow ! Pieces of junk !
Clever
are these the tie rods that froze up due to water intrusion?
Yes
What about the steering motor? I've heard they can be under powered
I haven’t had an issue with that. But if anything that gives more steering feel to the driver which I prefer
I just have a few clarifying questions. Are you 35” tires or 37’s? Any lift on your Bronco?
Running 35s and no lift. Preparing to change that though hopefully
Thanks for the response! I can’t wait to see what you do to that bad boy! I’m heading to Moab for the Bronco Off Roadeo in Moab next month so i’m hoping to get a better idea of the stock Sasquatch limits. Keep up the great content!
I have the Hoss 3.0. What upgrades would you recommend specifically for that steering rack system?
To be honest I’m not well educated in the 3.0 rack so I couldn’t tell you. I know they are certainly beefed up, but I don’t know at what point they would fail. The 74 weld guys are SUPER knowledgeable so you could try and get ahold of them and see what they say for your application
Very informative
Out of focus is alright.... I was looking at the parts more then you, so it's good. Hee hee
Hahaha fair enough
Why anyone buys 74 weld Bronco steering products absolutely boggles my mind. They just took what Broncbuster did years ago and copied the idea. I've never seen less brand loyalty in my life then I do in the Bronco community.
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery
We have never nor will we ever copy someone’s design. Our materials are completely different. We use an oil impregnated bronze on the cap side and a UHMW plastic and oil impregnated bronze combo on the driver side. Our kit for 1K includes both the driver and pass side supports. It is sold as a complete kit for 500 cheaper using better materials. The truth is the only reason we sell the stage 1 kit is we already made the component as part of our complete steering rack. We had so many customers call and ask just to buy the cap we decided to sell it. I still think it’s a band aid and I know this to be true because we have removed and replaced 7 racks to date with the broncbuster bushing and cap and the rack housings were broken. For some guys it’s enough. But if you are really going to wheel your rig in rocks it’s proven that the cap and bushing is not the end all be all
@74weld thank you for chiming in on this. Not knowing the history or release time I didn’t feel comfortable weighing in. My stage one kit has treated me really well. I’ve had to replace my rack once in fact, and I was able to just transfer these components
@@OFFTHEGRIND oh no doubt he is first to market. But first does not mean best. It only means first. First is never our intention! We build the best, that is our only guiding principle Our design is very different. Delrin is the absolute wrong material for this application. While very strong, UHMW is 18x more impact resistant than Delrin. The problem is both Delrin and UHMW (all plastic for that matter) has terrible wear resistance. So we put an oil impregnated bronze bushing inside the UHMW making it wear resistant and impact resistant. These are major design changes which make our product a lot more functional by engineering. To the untrained eye they look the same. They are not
@74weld this and your racing pedigree is why I will always be a supporter of 74weld. Being stranded in the middle of nowhere is worst case scenario for us overlanders. I know with your company that won’t happen
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😂😂 “I thought we could play a game…” Great video, mediocre filming. 🤙🏼
Hahahaha not my proudest moment