So the famous Snowspedder is now only good enough to transport human waste. Awesome! Do Lucasfilm hate George Lucas or just his creations? Let me know in the comments. And as always, if you want to have more success this week as well as more action, remember to Like, Subscribe, Share and Bell this video. Cheers my crazy friends!
But just enough human waste to fill a bucket that fits on the back seat. Where the Dacks of the world would one day sit. Hopefully none spilt or we technically could have ended up with shitty Dacks. That's an Australian joke only I think.
Imagine a company you named after yourself goes out of its way to hate you, your characters, and everything you stand for when it's no longer in your hands.
@@fidelperez4837 Honestly Walt Disney would probably hate modern day Disney, you know because of its acceptance of Black people and Jews. Okay sudden dark joke based on facts aside he's probably rolling in his grave.
Part of Disney's participation award mindset. What's annoying is Disney trying to put everything that they have in their animated disney princess movies into Star Wars instead of keeping it as it should be
It’s because any more scenes with Lucas era characters means Disney would have to pay him 12 cents. And Disney is already cheap with these productions...
Overall lore for the T-47 "Air Speeder" is that it was a light Cargo Hauler. The tow cables shown in ESB were used to latch on to repulsor-fitted containers. (we see Speeder Bikes do this in Star Wars Rebels.) The "Snow Speeder" shown in ESB is a heavily armored and modified version of the original civilian-sold T-47. The arctic variants are literally the Rebellion slapping crap together on a sub-standard airframe and praying it didn't fall apart (which was more than 70% of their Starfighter Corps at the time)
Finally someone pointing this out. It makes no sense for these two speeders to have the same (supposedly) jury-rigged blaster cannons as the ones installed by the rebels. Why would anyone feel the need to put massive blaster cannons on shit-haulers? They are just lazily copying old designs because they take us for fools, or are too foolish themselves to understand the complexity of what they ar eworking with.
What gets me is that of all things they could've used it for., they used it to transport ... crap. It is an odd choice considering all the things it could've otherwise transported. They could have said anything else, but they chose literal shit to be their story board choice of what they used it for. It says a lot about the writers opinion of it. And outside of that, the portrayal of it from what I saw here is absurd. It's like they never even tried to understand how their own ships function. For instance, since it definitely could not have had several people pile into the rear cockpit, why didn't they have a container towed. Sure that would be uncomfortable, but it would have made more sense.
just imagine: you have a vehicle designed for heavy lifting, with strong towing cables and modified to have a better engine and a set of high power cannons, plus extra heavy plating for protection, all repurposed to become an actually efficient fighting vehicle.... it would be fair to still want to use it for hauling purposes inside of a rebel base, yes... but just imagine... using it to haul, of all things, literal human waste... the only thing that you can get rid of without giving a crap (no pun intented) in the middle of space, and you go around hauling it like its some sort of treasure? bruuuuuuuhhhh
They tried, but it kept causing "creative differences" with Kennedy. Is this supposed to be a franchise or her own personal ego trip? Anything would be better than this.
Don’t forget their $4B boondoggles Galaxy’s Edge and the insanely overpriced Galactic Starcruiser hotel? She couldn’t even settle going back to basics with George’s worlds or characters, since they’d have pony up royalties to Lucas? At least they’d be booked solid, and making huge returns on their investment?
the fact that the Snowspeeders blaster bolts are kind enough to not explode on impact especially with the ground when fired at Reva to give her a fair chance just shows how honorable a piece of machinary it is. Snowspeeders are the true Knights of this universe.
The problem with the Hoth scenario with regards to the Star Destroyer is that, because of Admiral Ozzel's incompetence, the rebels had their shields up which meant that the empire had to send in slow moving walkers to get in close enough to take out the shield generator
Nope, you're wrong.. Lucas is super awesome and brilliant, he is incapable of doing anything wrong ever and Disney is incapable of doing anything right. Didn't you watch the video? When Lucas uses green screen and special effects it's perfect and there is absolutely nothing wrong.. if anyone else does something similar it is a load of c**p. Just because another writer and director found a new way deploy a Star Destroyer is no reason not to continue to s**t on Disney
@@Steve_P_B my apologies.. I meant that as sarcasm since the op was so in favour of anything Lucas did being without fault that I actually agreed with you that the snowspeeder variant of the ship was terrible.
yeah... this why i avoid these your of channels and videos. these black and white thinkers. Lucas did some amazing things and some really stupid things. the other people working for Disney now have done some amazing things and some stupid things. because... we're all human which means we have this duality inside us: dark and light, good and evil, smart or stupid, we all exist on this spectrum. creative choices are just that. i do agree the quality and effort in some shows and films was low compared to others but others have been incredible and i can find good things or bad things in any of them. some "fans" just feed off of hate and complaining or shitting on things. the logic of this video is bad.
I miss when Star Wars as a franchise tended to have intimidating villains. Even Admiral Piett had a sense of professional Imperial about him. None of these new clowns do at all.
@@Red_emp_tion even Krennic was egomanial to an excessive degree. Gideon was better but just missed potential in that garbage tv show. I'd love to see a better written role for Giancarlo.
@@snowclams1450 Oh yeah. Both the actors are excellent and could be written better. I do like Krennic's crazy because I feel like not every bad guy should be totally intimidating or a total genius. (Vader and Thrawn)
@@Red_emp_tion yeah I argued with myself in my mind about Krennic, and there are plenty of egotistical senior military officers out there irl too. Maybe I'm just desperate for anyone well written these days I expect it from everyone.
rogue one ruined Tarkin, so here's a copy/pasted reply I made to another reply on one of Anomaly Inc's videos explaining this. They're the same points used by Ponstory Games, a youtuber who made two of the best Star Wars critiques. It's long, so bear with me for a bit. Tarkin didn't want the Rebellion to be aware of the Death Star, which doesn't make sense when you consider the fact they could destroy the Rebellion in one shot, which was the tactic used in "Return Of The Jedi" and was even attempted BY TARKIN in "A New Hope". Also, since the Empire was planning to test the weapon anyway, why is it a problem that the Rebels get together? Even if the weapons test was postponed, the outcome would still be the same. The Rebels would still make a fleet and try to fight them. What difference does it make when the Rebels discover the existence of the Death Star? The bigger problem would be that the Rebels already found the weakness of the Death Star, which he never mentions because he's not aware of it yet. Tarkin should know that a weapons test will convince and push the Rebels to assemble a fleet a lot quicker than the simple knowledge that the Death Star exists, which would help the Empire more than it would the Rebels. The Empire consists of power-hungry tyrants, so why would they be afraid of the Rebels ganging up on them. Tarkin arbitrarily blew up Alderaan in ANH, he had no care at all for who or what was on it, he'd destroy it for fun just to show his power. If they were realistically portrayed, they'd tell the Rebels: "You either send us all of your fleets immediately or we'll blow up random planets. In fact, start rounding up each other's fleets and hand them over and if anyone opposes our orders , you fight them for us or we'll destroy your homeworlds". Why would they build it if they were worried about the Senate discovering the existence of the Death Star? Why do they even care what the Senate thinks when they can disband it at the drop of a hat? Which happens in ANH. Tarkin's portrayal in Rogue One contradicts his actions and portrayal in ANH.
I respectfully disagree with the criticism about “parking a star destroyer” on hoth, the rebels were defended from orbital attack by a shield and an ion canon, which was used to disable a star destroyer in the movie. The AT-ATs were sent in to destroy the shield, which would allow the star destroyers to target defensive systems, like the ion canon, from orbit
Not to mention at light speed ur not supposed to be able to go through things, at least originally. They go over this in anh about just jumping straight to lightspeed and you'll hit something and shatter into a million pieces. So that shield they had on hoth would be destroyed the star destroyer if they tried to enter at hyperspeed
Weird how no one knows the origin of this famous ship, it was originally a forklift/towtruck for shipbuilding yards in space, it's even mentioned in Empire, Luke tells everyone when fighting the walkers to "use their tow cables" and seeing as how the rebels had limited resources they attached guns on the sides so it is basically a "technical"
This is correct. Most hard core Star Wars fans actually forget the Tow Cable attack on Hoth was literally pulled out of Luke's ass when he said that. Which is why the AT-AT had zero defense against it. Prior to this according to the EU because I am sure none of this exist with Disney, the Airspeeders would carry bombs with the cables and the pilots would drag the bombs into AT-AT's to kill them.
the part where the random pilot who we knew for like 5 seconds died, and then everyone mourned him for like 4 minutes, and it was poised as like a major tragedy, was pure comedy
Even in a comedy when they make a joke about a member of the team dying (by having him say it's his first day on the job and also 3 days before retirement while showing pictures of his family) it's more emotional than this.
You do realise that the fanbase were just 'mourning' Wade partially as a joke, right? It's akin to mourning for Porkins within the Battle of Yavin or Crynyd during the Battle of Endor.
A little detail, if you look at Star Wars Encyclopedias, and check out the various spaceships' details, you can see the huge difference in world-bulding care/lore: Prequel and Original Trilogy vehicles/spaceships have detailed numbers listed (Star Destroyer: 60 turbolasers, 60 ion cannons 6 heavy turbolasers etc); Sequel Trilogy spaceships have random details (First Order Star Destroyer: turbolasers, ion cannons, point-defence turrets and missiles etc).
To be fair, those details came about in the decades after in expanded media, especially the tabletop game where every ship has to have specific stats. But your point stands, the sequel stuff has never had anything more than superficial details. They just pick their favorite concept art (what if TIE Fighter again but red stripe?) and use it with no regard to anything else.
@@ricktheroux7650 Fair enough. Still, beside the fact you can physically see the 6 heavy turbolaser batteries on the old Star Destroyers (you cannot say the same for the new ones), you can tell the designs were inspired by WW2 ships/planes to be somewhat believable. That's why I think it's a shame that instead of being inspired by Cold War/Early '90 designs they went with CGI "More of the Same but Worse".
Another fun fact: in one of those books it says that those fins on the center back of the snowspeeder where added to keep the engine warm cause Hoth was so damn cold. I can only image how hot the engine is on that planet
It would have been really cool if we got all sorts of new ship designs for the sequel trilogy. Maybe a renaissance of ship design and innovation brought about by the New Republic. We could have got star fighters combining the best aspects of TIE fighters and X-wings, and a new line of Star Destroyers used by the New Republic.
Reva “deflecting” literally looks like a child randomly swinging a sword at imaginary enemies. Some general advice for choreographing, blocks and deflects need to be reactions and they need to move from static to dynamic quickly. None of this constant twirling and twisting nonsense, it just highlights the green screen
Also how is she deflecting ship bolts which have been shown to be like 10x more thicker and powerful than normal blasts. They literally move the pilot when they come out the ship and explode on impact.
We've gotten to the point where that old viral video of that fat kid swinging around a broom like a lightsaber is now on par with actual Star Wars choreography.
@@mrfilmreviewcriticman4110 Actually, in ESB, the speeders blow up the downed AT-AT with their main guns. She wouldn't just be dead, she would be instantly disintegrated.
Remember in classic star wars when Darth Vader would execute any incompetent officers for a minor mistake. Well now he let's them off in Disney canon for destroying his bases.
it genuinely hurts to watch Disney literally curveball Vader's entire personality of dealing death so that the worst, most forced in character in Star Wars is 'magically' kept alive for plot purpose. "I-I placed a t-tracker on them!' basically just stating they're back to square one again, but apparently this is a success for Vader? what a fucking joke
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 What made me mad was how gently he let her down. It would have been a little better if he just dropped her because that’s what you’d expect from him.
Not exactly true. In ESB, it's implied Admiral Ozzel had a string of failures before the battle of Hoth. Alerting the rebels on Hoth wasn't a minor mistake, it was the last straw. Captain Needa for the most part was unlucky. Vader was obsessed with finding the Falcon not caring how much damage the Star Destroyers took in the asteroid field. Needa seemed to be following standard procedure to capture the Falcon but gave up a little too quickly when the Falcon "escaped", Vader chiming in for an update on the pursuit right afterwards couldn't have come at a worse time either. For the most part, it was Vader's obsession that killed Needa, not a minor mistake.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 What made me mad is that he didn’t kill Reva or just let her drop to the ground like a ton of bricks. Remember his interaction with Krennic? I wanted that type of interaction where he didn’t give a shit.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 Wasn't Ozzel before Empire strikes back basically off limits for Vader to execute as punishment for failing to protect the death star, set by Palpatine. And only near the start of Hoth was Vadar allowed to do what he wished again.
2:03-2:27 Actually, there's a possible explanation for why Hoth, and Jedha were the way they are. Here's a little EU Lore, mixed with what was directed mentioned in Empire Strikes Back itself. At Hoth, The Rebels were protecting their base with a powerful deflector shield, so that in case The Empire discovered their location, they couldn't just shoot down to the planet's surface, and blow up the rebel base from orbit (A tactic known as "Orbital Bombardment"). Due to Admiral Ozzel's complete incompetence (Which Vader took care of soon after), The Rebels were alerted to an Imperial Attack, and raised the shield, thus forcing The Empire to attack them on the ground with their walkers. Why couldn't The Empire fly through the shields with The Star Destroyers, but the walkers could get through? Here's where The EU lore comes in. In the lore, not only could energy weapons not break through the shields, hence why they were used defensively in the first place, but ships, and vehicles with Repulsorlift Technology (Think Luke's speeder on Tatooine in A New Hope, the vehicles flying through Coruscant's skyline in The Prequel Trilogy, and The Cloud Cars on Bespin in ESB, for example) couldn't either. This is why The Trade Federation Droid Army, specifically their tanks, couldn't just ignore The Gungan Shields in The Phantom Menace, and mow down all The Gungans like a lawnmower does with grass, because they relied on Repulsorlift Technology too. That's why they had to deploy the droids themselves to get through the shield, and slaughter The Gungans up close, because the droids themselves didn't rely on that technology like their tanks did. When Flying in Space (Where there is no gravity), The Star Destroyers would just fly like normal Spaceships would, but when in atmosphere, and thus under a planet's gravitational influence, they would need to use Repulsorlift Technology to stay in the air, otherwise they would crash onto the planet, and (possibly) never fly again. Therefore, they could not go through The Rebels' shields, unlike their walkers, which didn't rely on that technology, and had legs to "walk" on to move around, instead. But, Jedha didn't have a planetary shield, in fact, it wasn't technically an enemy world, since The Empire would mine certain minerals, and resources on it, so why would it need to activate its shield against an allied force? Without a shield like that, The Star Destroyer would have no problem flying over a city with its Repulsorlifts keeping it above the ground at all times. That's my reasoning for it, anyway.
Given how inept the First Order is, and the fact that they just lost their flagship and most of their fleet to a maneuver none of them apparently expected, I don't think they were being rational.
What about the fact that the snow speeders are flying full speed into the hanger with no space to turn around? It’s like when Han pulled out of light speed on Starkiller Base and didn’t plow straight into the mountain? Unless they had a better version of Poe’s handbrake turn from TLJ (just as funny as the SpaceBalls scene mocking the physics of it) both of those snow speeders should have rammed straight into the back of the hanger…
They got everything about the speeders wrong tbh. They are civilian speeders, but the rebels armed them with assault cannons. Ones that are made for “hauling sewage” should not have those weapons, they don’t come like that. I wish they just came up with different speeders to use.
@@paxwax1 I guess so. The "speeders" can fly exactly like spacecraft now, so why not? I liked what the games did, I assume that it was copied from EU lore, they couldn't fly more than a set distance off of the ground, and they couldn't do loop-de-loops and other crap because they were "speeders" and not "fighters", their technology was more like the cars and bikes that scoot along the ground. Disney made the SW universe less interesting just for the sake of a cheap OT 'member berry.
The fortress had shields 5 years earlier when Cal infiltrated it. The writers just kind of forgot that the entire source for this structure was canon...
Disney has had trouble maintaining some form of continuity since they bought Star Wars. That was why they said originally why they scrapped the old expanded universe(although reality is they didn't want to pay royalties). They were like, Leia was never trained as a Jedi. Then after her space flight, they flip-flopped on why she was able to do that, before rewriting that she did have some Jedi training. Poe Dameron was like Leia's second son. They already filled in his back story, then had to flip it so he had a checkered past in Rise of Skywalker. Luke was able to see the good in his Father who has one of the most kills of anyone in universe, but doesn't think his nephew can be saved over a bad dream. Then having Luke give up in his entirety, out of character. They gave Han a similar treatment.
True, the Falcon was in episode 3, but two things. First, the YT-1300 was mass-produced as a freighter and it could easily be another one operating during the clone-wars. Second, canonically, that WAS the falcon in episode 3 because it's an older model, however importantly Lando HEAVILY upgraded it with top of the line systems and restored it to near mint condition as his personal transport and smuggling vessel before Han won it in a game of sabaac (in the old canon, Lando said he could pick any ship on the lot of his starship junkyard and intended Han to pick one of the shiny hot-rod type ships and not the ugly looking freighter he was secretly upgrading with military grade hardware.)
The YT-1300 was a very common freighter across the galaxy, for all we know that little Millennium Falcon looking ship could’ve been any old YT-1300 class light freighter because Corellian ships are extremely common in the Star Wars galaxy. The Millennium Falcon was a very unique ship. Most notably for its ridiculously fast Class 0.5 hyperdrive.
I have to say I am amazed at how bad everything with starwars has become. I can't tell if it's actual incompetence or just genuine purposeful self destruction with everything they do or have done. Even the bad fan fiction stories of starwars are better than things I have seen disney "create" with the godawfully ugly and stupid Vespa scooter speeders, the t-47 snowspeeders which have no explanation on how they got there (as far as I am aware the t-47 doesn't have any space jump / hyperdrive capabilities so how did a rebel ship not get spotted on Imperial scanners? ) Even if you only payed attention 15% of the time to the original and the prequels trilogies you'd have a better chance at making a starwars show/movie than disney would at this point.
For me, the sequel trilogy was strike 1. Boba Fett was strike 2, and this...Obi-Wan is the end of my interest in Disney Star Wars. The Mandalorian is good, but even that was weighed down in s2 by almost every episode being a long trailer for ANOTHER show...
Those vesper speeders from Boba Fett were apparently leftover props from a Spykids film that were lying around in storage. I'll give them credit for saving money by recycling old equipment but they couldn't even alter them or repaint them to look passable for Star Wars technology. That's lazy even by Disney standards.
I blame half on stupidity (doesn't need explaining) and half on a tight schedule. With the originals and the prequels you had 3 years between the movies releases. With the prequels you had the bonus that the story was planned out before they stared shooting the first one. That's enough time to plan everything. Then we jump to Disney times. They bought Lucasfilm in 2012 and had their first movie in 2015. That's an ok time span for one movie. But they had only 2 years for the following movies and because the trilogy wasn't planned ahead the time ran out. They also had a Star Wars story in between each movie with occupies production capacities that could have been used for the trilogy. Releasing a new Star Wars movie each year is unnecessary and too ambitious. Then they did the exact same mistake when it came to the shows. A new series each year is again too ambitious when you consider they reused parts of the Mandalorian set for the book of Boba Fett. It's overall not planned through because "the fans need content to stay fans". Disney treats us like toddlers. When were not occupied we loose interest and turn on the franchise
@@desmondd1984 The Last Jedi alone had strikes 1 through 50 for me. I did watch Mando season 1 but it was mediocre so I dumped my free year of Disney+ early and never looked back.
Did not know about the whole different vehicles of different eras thing. That actually is really brilliant and does explain why things went from looking all flashy, new and the like to more utilitarian, with more focus on function over fashion.
It also makes sense from a non-aesthetic perspective, in the sense that the Republic had the commerce and wealth to be able to have fancy looking vehicles, whereas the rebels [in the time of the Empire] would be strapped for access to the same materials and would be forced into doing the best they can which means focussing on function over design. (Though the X-Wings still look super cool!)
I'm guessing that the ion cannon the rebels had set up on Hoth would have disabled any Star Destroyer attempting to breach the atmosphere, so a smaller ground force had to be sent to knock down the defenses. The Empire probably used drop ships that were too small to be effectively engaged by the massive cannon, but weren't large enough to be unaffected by ground fire, so they had to land a good distance away, then walk in.
Honestly, the ion cannon might have been the only thing the drop ships had to avoid (because a dingy never wins against a battleship shell). They might have entered the atmosphere out of sight, and then just made a point of staying out of the firing arc for a landing even at the very edge of the shield.
The hoth energy shield and ion cannon prevented star destroyers from parking on top. "Land your troops beyond the energy shield and prepare your troops for a surface attack" That's why General Veers needed to target the power generator so that these two defenses would go down. The snow speeders were modified. Originally, they were civilian tow vehicles and quite old. Their canopies do open incorrectly though.
Why the Imperials chose to not deploy any fighters during the Battle of Hoth always bothered me though. They could have at least be waiting beyond the atmosphere to intercept any Rebel spacecrafts that are trying to escape.
@@Vanerrad yeah true, and also the Tie fighters are ALWAYS ALWAYS coming in hard at the rear, with some rebel pilot screaming about it before being shot down. So if rebels always employ those attack formations, why aren't any ships developed for rear defence, with heavy rear guns and targeting bots, i mean surely advanced bots can target better than people.
I remember claiming star wars was dead the instant I learned Disney bought it. So many people sneered at me. Well well, smooth brains. Looks like nobody is laughing now.
its our fault. Lucas got so much crap after the prequels that he probably thought selling SW was a good idea. Turns out the prequels were actually good. (episode 3 was GREAT) Fans should send Lucas an apology letter.
@@theendistheend123 I never had an issue with the prequels. Sure we didn't need jarjar or space diner and Darth Maul was criminally underused but those movies still totally hold up overall
@@theendistheend123 Exactly. People are crying for George Lucas to come back when we were the ones to disown him in the first place. It's ridiculous George deserves better
The dumbest thing is ALL of this shit could've been fixed with ONE change. Make it LUKE instead of LEIA. With Leia, SHE'S ON THE EMPIRE'S SIDE! EXPLICITLY! Her father works for them! He controls a PLANET. To rescue her LITERALLY all he had to do was get her, point her at the nearest Trooper, and send her off to tell them what happened! DONE! EVERY PROBLEM SOLVED! OBI WAN CAN DISAPPEAR AGAIN! If it's LUKE that gets kidnapped, you can do ANYTHING and so long as Obi Wan doesn't use his Lightsaber in view of Luke, everything can just be justified as the reason Luke is such good friends with a seemingly random old man that lived near him in New Hope. Like he could have been sent to get fucking milk, then grabbed by some slavers, it's Tatooine, there's gonna be some slavers around. Obi Wan obviously sees this, can't reach them fast enough to get Luke back, so he goes after them QUEUE epic space rescue. The empire doesn't even have to be involved! If you want them involved though, you can have a reveal that the Empire hires the slavers for nefarious reasons or something, I dunno. It's also a good excuse for Obi Wan to use his abilities as minimally as possible, and especially so within sight of Luke. He's supposed to be in HIDING and protecting Luke. Both of those things get MUCH harder if Luke knows too much.
What pisses me off the most about this episode is that Cal Kestis broke into the fortress in the exact same way years earlier and no one thought it was a good idea to maybe tighten security in that area
It makes since when you look at it from a timeline perspective, the OT and the sequels all take place within a 40 year gap, and all you ever see are x wings, and star destroyer and speeders, maybe with minor improvements but still the same general concept, I understand where your coming from but at the end of the day they're movies and none of it makes any logical sense
@@jonathanw1019Well if you look at it that way. You could also look at human history and say 1000+ years of riding horses, and then this idiot species suddenly goes to internal combustion engine cars, which advance technologically at an INCREDIBLE rate for like 100 years and then all the sudden the whole industry wants to shift to battery powered electric? I mean, humans often make very little sense. Changes in technology make even less sense from an outside perspective. A whole lot of people who were alive when the Wright brothers made their first flight in that glorified toothpick glider with less horsepower than my lawnmower, were also still alive when the SR-71 was tearing its titanium ass through the sky at Mach fuck. 😂 Seriously, think about how insane that is. My own grandpa, who was old enough to remember when Lindbergh made the first trans-atlantic flight in the spirit of st louis, would later fly across that same ocean faster than the speed of sound on a Concorde, and eating warm meals in a comfy seat in a 747.. Shit be wacky. Lol
9:32 *_"Whoever made this has no sense of size, speed, depth or direction."_* EXACTLY! That was simply horrendous! I couldn't believe they approved that sequence!🤯
Yo nothing worse for my sleep schedule and college homework than refreshing my home RUclips page and seeing Robot Head. We gonna watch this all the way to the end. Bye bye sanity...
Funnily enough, the Corellian YT-1300 (the most famous example of this model being the Millennium Falcon) is actually a very old design in legends. It was supposedly manufactured well before the Prequel Trilogy (+50 years). The Falcon in particular was originally in Lando's possession, then was lost to Han in a card game. The reason why we get to see the Millennium Falcon look like she did "new" was because Lando kept her nice. From what we gather from the Solo movie, he also kept her under a tarp for the most part. She may have even been "restored" at some point in time to look new, and even modified and retrofitted well before Han started chopping and splicing who knows what inside her. A good example and comparison of how the Falcon became a "piece of junk" in the Original Trilogy would be like a person who owned a pristine 1932 Ford Coupe, factory original and kept in a garage. They lose it to a bootlegger in a card game, and the bootlegger decides to not only take it for one heck of a test drive running and smuggling stuff (causing all kinds of body/mechanical damage from evading cops), but also chopping parts and pieces, welding new parts, and generally modifying it into a frankenstein (or rat rod) version of what it used to be. Then letting it fall apart while he's trying to "fix" it himself. That's pretty much why the Falcon looks like "junk" in the Original Trilogy. Mostly because Han really did a number on the poor Falcon putting her through all kinds of stress and abuse. He "tries" to keep her looking nice, but not hard enough. XD
The timeframe of the existence of space flying ships in Star Wars is over thousands of years, from the Old Rep. to the New Rep. 50 years is not "very old" by any conceivable measure of time in said universe.
@@jonathanw1019 the timeframe of the existence of sailing ships is thousands of years, from the Macedonians to modern America. However, most ships don't make it past 40 years before they're scrapped.
@@jacktheflash8478 Why wouldn't it be? None of the ships from the old republic era are still in service by the time of the prequels. By the time of the original trilogy all of the prequel era ships were out of service. Even if technological stagnation means things never become obsolete, they still wear down and break.
@@retrograde98xp7 The average age of general aviation (private) airplanes is 30 years old, with many over 50. Flying is relatively new, so that number may continue to grow. Since Star Wars has ships in the vacuum of space, we might see ships live longer because they are subject to less wear and tear. Really depends on how much they're used and how hard they're pushed.
I cannot believe the Snowspeeder's just HOVER in mid-air, completely functionally contradicting the battle of Hoth where they're always going forward to make passes, and cannot just stop wherever they are to fire on a target. Seeing the speeder's do this in 'Kenobi' looked terrible and made no sense whatsoever.
Almost all ships in star wars have the ability to hover in mid air, but doing it on Hoth would have been suicidal due to constant heavy fire. Not defending this crap, just some love for those poor snowspeeder.
Yes. You can see in TESB that they also use airbrakes to control direction in flight. In a hover with no air passing over the airbrakes the snowspeeder must be very unmaneuverable. Another issue I have with the Obiwan episode is that the cannons on the snowspeeder couldn't possibility both fire at Reva at such close range. She would be waaay inside their convergence range.
@@JeJe-mz9gg I agree that it would make them a sitting duck for AT-AT's, but then it makes (Zev) Rogue Two look like a jackass for streaking past Hans makeshift camp when he finds them on Hoth. 🤷♂️
@@RoboticPope Right. The snowspeeders can hover, but it's more of a "get off the ground... now go forward." Not really maneuvering for combat. The need to go fast forward to maneuver properly, especially to be nimble enough for combat. They would have had no real way to angle those blasters to shoot at Reva.
How could the T47s transport sewage if they can't brake or hover? How would they even pick up the sewage unless they had a runway? God modern Lucasfilm sucks
Not only did Lucas take style cues from classic cars in the prequels, he straight up used a few. Bail Organa's speeder in RotS is a Tucker Torpedo, and a Phantom Corsair can be seen on one of the landing pads. I also believe that the air speeder in AotC that Anakin "borrows" is a homage to Milner's duece coupes in American Grafitti.
Roddenberry said he and his creative team came up with the transporter because the ship was too big to just land. Seeing those star destroyers hovering like that made me want to science the hell out of them.
"Graviton flux charge" or something. Basically some quantum-voodoo-handwavium imitation of "the dirt is in the way!" that will give you enough description to figure out how it should act. I'd say that requiring thrust to move _out_ of that state (unless you destroy the equipment, in which case you should get some sort of highly energetic discharge of the "invested energy") would probably be the correct framework.
I heard it was because they had originally intended on using shuttles all the time, but filming the shuttle landing was too expensive to keep up with so they invented the transporter as a cheaper way of getting the characters onto any given planet.
Absolutely spot on. Pleased you mentioned Luke's one set of farm boy clothes and the Obi wan bad speedsters (my favourite ship) wrecked. Again spot on. Thanks.
Aye, I really appreciate how Lucas was a rev head and it totally makes sense how he was inspired by different design eras. Both the 60s and 80s aesthetics really sing to me.
Instead of Porkins, now the have Commander Butadon on the Mandalorian. This was an awful joke you might have to google...if you like awful lame jokes...
In X-Wing Rogue squadron, Wedge mentions that Porkins died because he was too fat. He had to fly with his G force cancellation system at maximum which ment he didn't realise that his fighter wasn't pulling up enough.
@@RoboticPope hahaha oh no!! That’s hilarious and terrible at the same time. Rogue Squadron writers felt the need to somewhat justify his death because he was fat haha. Yikes. Love those games btw.
Disney is inspiring millions of people. If the writers and editors of this show are considered "Professionals" then everyone else must be a phenom. I used to be self conscious of my own inadequacies when it comes to writing and editing..... but seeing what goes into 100+ million dollar projects... I'm feelin pretty confident.
Well, the ISD was always capable of going in atmosphere. The issue on Hoth was the shield generator. If there wasn't a shield generator, the Imperial Fleet would have just bombed the base, and everything within 10 km from orbit. It was just safer to keep the fleet in orbit as a net to prevent any escapees and send a ground force to infiltrate and destroy the shield.
@@moemothmann6760 : That was always an EU/Legends thing (like the Victory in general). Honestly, I don't know that they ever tried to give a justification for it either.
@@moemothmann6760 In the prequels star destroyers and star destroyer size ships land on planets a lot, so we can be pretty sure that the ISD probably can as well. If it can't, that would make it the only class in the series that can't, since the acclamator, the venator, and the victory can all do it.
OG Star Wars fan that has read all the books here. Both the Imperial and the Imperial-II class ISDs are more than capable of atmospheric operation. They were designed this way on purpose for the sake of intimidation, when bombardment was considered 'overkill', and also for ceremonial duties. It's important to remember what Star Destroyers are designed for - subjugation. The very shape of them, the tapered dagger-shaped hulls, means that you can point an ISD straight down at a city and fire every single weapon along the hull at a single point without fowling the sight lines of any other weapon due to the hull angle. Victories were not designed for subjugation, they were designed with more tactical operations in mind, being ships of the line first, everything else second. Victories were a technical upgrade to Venators, whilst Imperials and Imperial-IIs were more of a totally new class of warship, despite sharing a range of features.
In the rogue squadron video game they used snow speeders for covert missions as they could fly below radar. They were used in the mission on corelia when Trix Madine of the Empire defected to the rebel Alliance. So that could explain why radar did not pick them up.
If you unlocked it for use with each level, you couldn't beat the Sullist level because the speeder couldn't fly high enough to destroy the shield generator halfway through the level
@@finkamain1621 that would make sense however Disney messed up using them in the Kenobi show as those thing were flying higher then usual there. Unless they were retrofitted to fly higher.
The brilliant, innovative, ambitious Star Wars we knew is dead in all but name only now. If it were a restaurant, the chef and founder sold out and they turned it into a McDonald's, just didn't change the name, but everyone knows the food isn't the same.
The Hoth base was protected by an Ion cannon and shield. So no, they couldn't just drop a Star Destroyer above the rebel base. It's also why the AT ATs had to deploy so far away.
Tbh , they could bait the Rebels the use the ion cannon prematurely and then advance in a Star Destroyer. The real reason is they don't have Repulsorlifts. But Disney hates technology so...
Exactly. It was never said in the OT that Star Destroyers couldn't land on planets and in the PT, we see Republic starships, precursors to Star Destroyers, landing. Of all the gripes to have with Disney Star Wars, that SD shot from Rogue One isn't a good one.
@@Stakex Actually, it was canon that the Victory Class Star Destroyer could do strafing runs in atmosphere, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch that ISDs are capable of doing the same.
Well, OK, but, you're then stuck with a bunch of secondary questions. Not the least of which is how come AT-ATs aren't stopped by the shield? You're going to want to say 'they're ray-shields and don't stop physical things.' Then the next question becomes, 'OK, but why not simply use Bombers to fly down and blow the crap out of the shield and ion cannon'? And now you're stuck. Also, General Kenneth Veers destroys the main power generator, informs Vader that he has done so, and tells him he may start his landing. Vader doesn't then come down in a star destroyer. But, none of that really matters, what really matters is having Star Destroyers floating in the air violates the visual metaphor. Star Destroyers are battleships, they work in space, which is the ocean and sometimes the sky. Having one on land is like watching a version of Pearl Harbour where the Japanese carriers mount the beaches and we find out they all have huge tank treads on their undersides. You can have a movie where that sort of thing happens, but you really can't when you've got six prior movies, mountains of secondary tier work and decades of tertiary work where at no point was this capability so much as hinted at. It'd be like having a fourth indiana Jones film where it turns out he has always been a wizard and resolves the issue at hand by summoning a dragon. There's nothing in the IJ universe that says this could not be true - magic of a kind has been seen in every IJ film after all, but anyone who would argue that doing so wouldn't be stupid as shit needs to be taken out and ballistically re-educated.
@@Belzediel Presumably because bringing the shields all the way down to ground level wouldn't work. ESB doesn't give any explanation for why not, we just know that's not how the shield generator works because if it did the Rebels would've used it that way to block the walkers. The old EU materials never bothered explaining that either as far as I know. Because not everything needs to be explained in every detail. Sometimes "that's just how the device works" is sufficient. And after the shield generator was destroyed...the base was already being overrun, landing a Star Destroyer wouldn't bring any added benefit. It's not like it would make the Rebels *even more* defeated. It wouldn't get Vader himself down there faster either, because he's not on a Star Destroyer. He's on the Super Star Destroyer, which is at least a dozen times bigger. A regular Star Destroyer being capable of landing on a planet doesn't meant the Executor can as well.
T-47s also werent designed with those giant cannons, those were retrofits made by the Rebel Alliance, which doesnt exist yet.... Hell you cant even claim this particular resistance cell modified the speeders with the cannons, since they apparently only used them to haul sewage XD
People still try to argue with me asking why I don't like Disney Star Wars. I stopped trying to explain myself to them and simply ask them to watch your videos.
You forgot to talk about the last scene where Disney expects us to feel emotion for a character with 4 lines of dialogue. Like when I first watched this I was like “why is everyone sad”.
Remember in Empire, when Luke's co-pilot died? Based on their brief interaction, you could tell they were either friends or at least friendly with each other. But, Luke didn't have time to get all sad because he had more important things to focus on. And it was a war (the same war as in this show) Luke was probably used to losing comrades like all the rebels in this show should have been.
Another thing I dislike about this design is that they have the exact same blaster cannons as the ones installed by the rebels. These speeders were supposed to be used in a non-combat role in stock form. The rebels modified them to suit their needs with two massive forward facing blasters and a rear gun. The fact that these two speeders have the exact same forward-facing cannons makes no sense, not only chronologically―but because they were being used for hauling, not combat. The owners would have no reason to outfit them with heavy guns, because who would attack a shit-hauler anyway?
The fact George Lucas doesn’t get more respect from the company he founded is sad. If they really respected him, the state of “Star Wars” would not be the way it is right now. Just goes to show that once he walked away from the franchise and they made the trilogy, spin-offs and shows without his involvement in any major way from beginning to end that he is the true heart and soul of Star Wars. Without him, it’s just an empty shell. Might look nice visually, but there really isn’t much substance to it.
Disagree. Even George himself said that fans would've disliked his new trilogy, since it went more into midichlorians and stuff like that. By the way, the real heart and soul of Star Wars was Marcia Lucas. Her influence on George, while they were married, was what made the OT what it was. When George did his own trilogy, the Prequels, without Marcia, you could clearly see that the charm of the OT was just not there. George is excellent at world-building, though.
@@G360LIVE Marcia was an important part, but not all of it. There were other people that pushed to keep the force mystical and undefined (particularly evident in Empire), for example, but without them, the force became midichlorians and all that crap. George is a great ideas man, but he shouldn't have had complete control over any of this. Use his framework and his story, but NOT his screenplay, his direction, or his editing.
@@Sal-T I don’t get the hate about the midichlorians. I think ppl misunderstand the concept, cause they aren’t the force itself at all. The force is the force, same as it always has been. And the midichlorian thing is just a way to explain how some ppl can connect and use the force (while others can’t) and likewise how strong that connection can be or explain their innate ability with the force. It makes lines like “the force is strong with him” make sense.
@@84rinne_moo Because the force was an unknown mystical thing. You just kinda 'felt' it, and how good you were depended on ... something. How much you worked at it? Maybe... no one knows! It was just how in tune with it you were. You feel the force. It flows through you. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter! Then it became a measurable thing. How good are you with the force? XYZ midiclorians good, so says the measuring device! How do you interact with the force? Through midichlorians! You know... that crude matter. It didn't need an explanation. It just was.
In one episode Darth says to Obi "I am what you made me!" Basically blaming Obi for him becoming Darth Vader. Then in the last fight in the last episode, it's suddenly "Nah, you all good Obi. I, Darth Vader, killed Anakin" So which fucking one is it Disney? Huh!? lol
@@elbowremovalservice lol, i know vader dosent grow,what i mean to say is he knowingly lies the first time and reveal his true nature second time, and this dosent require character development cuz he knew he lied first time.
7:58 to this person I would say “Ah yes because the US is still fielding the F-86 Sabre as it’s top of the line interceptor in the modern era now huh?”
It's like all the Hollywood rejects who got turned down some odd years ago ended coming back and nobody remembered them. Now talent in every aspect of entertainment has all but disappeared and replaced with hacks and ineptitude
um no, the writer's strike in hollywood was a well known high profile thing. when the 007 movie quantum of solace was coming out, they lost all their writers, so the movie is just basically a bunch of action scenes. it's regarded as the worst of those movies. by and large, hollywood did not recover from the loss of those writers, ever. and then woke came in to replace them, when before they were using focus groups and buzz words to decide some things in production, now they use them to make everything. it's the corporatization of storytelling. when that happens, then the moral of the story is also up for sale. so we get that luke's character arc, brought to you by WEF and klaus the schwab, now culminates in cukoldry.
@@StephenStine it's your loss nit wit. that was a free lesson right there but you can't lead the mule to water and have it drink. still others might benefit so no big loss.
@@gator7082 Good grief, I actually LOL'd when that happened, unbelievable levels of cringy stupidity. And those kids on their colorful mopeds were supposed to be "the tough gang" everyone was afraid of (eyes rolling out of my head).
@@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 He was brilliant when he was young and butting heads with the studio system. IMO, he should have directed some indie films or something before doing the prequels, because I suspect that large gap without directing anything (he didn't make any movies between 1977 and 1999) was a big reason the prequels are so awful. The theatrical cuts of THX, Graffitti, and Star Wars are amazing and among my favorite films, but he either should have stopped directing entirely or worked his way back into it,
White males spend generations building up a property to billions in value, then pass it on to women who run it into the ground. Only an heir who does not need it is fit to inherit wealth.
he's a lucky bum who's accredited with way too much design and story he didn't create himself. his real 'creative' strength is cobbling shit togeter. he is, however, a business/marketing genius.
2:25 Vader couldn’t just park his Star destroyer over the rebel base on Hoth because it had a shield. That’s why they had to do ground attacks to take out the shields. They had control over Jedha city so shields weren’t a problem and they were mining the city for Kyber crystals so probably having a huge ship there would be really helpful as a base of operations.
It is an energy shield. They stop energy weapons. That is how the walkers were able to get in to begin with. Physical things just walk through them. ( As shown in The Phantom Menace.) Prior to Disney, there was material which stated that Star Destroyers could not operate in atmosphere.
In the Gundam universe ships that size can't enter gravity wells due to gravity turning them into an astroid strike onto the planet and since in the Gundam universe capital ship thrusters are open ended nuclear reactors even if they have enough thrust to counter gravity they would irradiate the planet. Till the Disney films many assumed Star Wars had the same limitations for capital ships.
@@RandomAmerican3000 The Rebels on Hoth had an ion cannon which could disable Star Destroyers. In orbit that's a temporary inconvenience, but if they were in hovering near the surface the ship would crash into the ground.
The design of the prequels is very underrated. The gradual transition from the Republic age of craft, uniforms and the Droid army to the militaristic Empire era was well thought-out, better than anything from the Disney era
Something the Sequels greatly missed was politics, in universe ones. The OT didn't need them as it was a simple set up, evil Empire rules whole galaxy, Rebels fight back, pretty basic. The Prequels did politics well, sure it was confusing and happened a little much, but that's the point, the Senate scenes show just enough o convey what's going on, the ineffectiveness and corruption in the Republic, we then see enough of the political machinations of both sides setting up and ending the Clone Wars, and Palpatine's rise to power. Meanwhile the Sequels keep it small and focused on an era the desperately needed a look at the wider galaxy, and random shit just happens, EP 7 the New Republic is in power, BOOM, capital destroyed, EP 8 picks up immediately after and somehow the First Order controls the whole galaxy, so much that NO ONE comes to the aid of the Resistance on Crait, then we skip 1 year later to EP 9 and the Resistance if it ever gained much more strength has boringly been reduced tot he Falcon, Tantive 4, and a small bunch of random fighters, yet somehow in just a few hours during the Battle of Exogol Lando shows up with a big ass fleet. Like I said, random political shit just happens, where the hell were all these ships in that 1 year time skip, why is it only NOW in EP 9 that they showed up, and how did it happen so quickly, the Sequels make no fucking sense. The Prequels show enough to let you understand the situation, even as a little kid I could figure it out. The OT showed just enough, EP 4 the Rebels have a base and a bunch of fighters, Ep 5 they have a couple transports and a small fleet at the end, in EP 6 we see they've now got capital ships able to duke it out with fucking Star Destroyers, We see the Rebellion only growing just from the movies alone. While the Sequels need extra media just to explain even the most basic shit. That is bad world building, and they ignore even the most basic story telling rules, even shit so basic ANYONE could do it better, PLANNING, the lacked planning, beginning, middle, end. Shit just randomly happens or get nonsensically rushed.
They dont need to make stories with rich characters, interesting dialouge, high stakes stories or anything else. All they need to do is to roll out the old star wars designs and show them to the fanboys and they love it. The only way they would say it was kinda bad is if the designs were still images. As long as they move about and shoot they are happy and give the show high praise.
That’s not very fair, you’re saying that the REAL Star Wars fans will accept bread and circuses. I’m a monster star wars fan and I’m intelligent enough to see EVERY SINGLE bit of Disney Star Wars is pure SHITE
I watched The Return of the Jedi in theatres (a double feature with the Neverending Story!) and bought the novels that kept the universe alive until the prequels. Things like the Thrawn Trilogy were the best written stories of any Star Wars stories IMHO. I stayed current through the Yuzzan Vong series, which I thought as the bookend of my intrest. Disney buying the IP of Lucasfilms meant they now owned the series that I had copies of. Disney then said what I had invested in was pure shyte, and in no way cannon. Ditto for previous games and the lore for them. It was a turd sandwich they handed me, and told me to eat it and be happy there was going to be a new better timeline. Well, I did watch The Force Awakens. That movie was underwhelming for me, and killing off Han was a very poorly written echo of Mara Jade's death. Rey did not appeal as a character, as she was a Mary Sue, Someone who was good because the plot demanded it, not because the character earned it. So, that was it. I stopped watching Star Wars, and Disney content in general. What they have done is like having your home sold to a new landlord (disney) who kidnaps and molests your sister (Star Wars) where you can hear what is going on through the walls(Disney leaks), then they demand money to see her on a livestream being forced to do unplesant things (the new content). If that thought disgusts you, then congradulations, you have more heart than Kathleen Kennedy does.
The snow speeder was a civilian ship around the prequels that was used for various jobs. Without the towable used on the AT-AT's that would free up space in the back seat. But if it was used to haul shit it wouldn't need a backseat. And also wouldn't have guns mounted on it. Edit:(towcable*)
It's important you keep these kind of videos coming, Robot Head - giving a voice to the people who share your opinion. Thank you for your service in an effort to get rid of low quality. We still have a long way to go, but you are the spearhead of this community.
Currently trying to figure out a way to say that this is like watching someone beat a dead horse without sounding like a heartless asshole who wants to see the dead horse get beat, quite hard but its completely deserved. Keep calling out disney robot, we need more people to realize the disney empire needs to collapse for the sake of the things they hold hostage that we love
Thank you for pointing this out. Every time I say that Disney Star wars is bad I get backlash from people claiming I just don't understand Disney's vision and I wonder if they even understand what they are defending and why. It's not just poor acting/writing. Its a genuine drop in quality of set design and universe lore. I bet everyone that worked on og trilogy and the prequels facepalms when they see the designs they worked so hard on being used in ways that are impossible.
The acting is actually pretty good - the writing isn't as great. Set design is also good. There's plenty to complain about, but make sure to actually complain about things that are, you know, actually bad, not things that are genuinely pretty good.
@@somewords5495 No, the acting is not good. Go re-watch "somehow Palpatine has returned" and tell me that is good acting. Or what about "I bypassed the compressor." Also the sets are just a TV screen behind the actors. It may look believable but there is none of the hours of painstaking work that industrial light and magic put into making things look like actual ships. finally, what I was specifically calling out was that they don't even understand the propulsion of the ship they are using and have it do impossible things like hovering. You can have the prettiest model ship you like, but if you don't even know how it flies it is still shoddy work.
You could probably cut the whole Fortress Inquisitorius part of the story out and the story doesn't really change. Just have Reva throw a tracking device thing on the ship Obi and Leia escape on at that mining town, like Obi once did to Jango, and you're good.
10:27 "is storyboarding a thing of the past?" yes, sadly, storyboarding stopped being an thing, when Lucasfilm sold out to disney and basically died standing.
I was fine with the Star Destroyer being in low orbit in Rogue One as it wasn’t a battle scenario but not in TLJ due to the reasons stated in the video as they could’ve simply bombarded the blast door from orbit as it had no shield. This also highlights to robust battle tactics of the Hoth battle. Why couldn’t the base be blasted from orbit? Shielding explained within the movie with scripted lines. Why couldn’t the destroyer just deploy troops from low orbit on top of the base? The Rebel base v-150 planet defender turret depicted on screen and not within an additional companion book. Why were AT-ATs deployed? Due to their immense firepower, defence and all-terrain capabilities. The battle of Crait (don’t care for spelling) had none of these and thus collapses under any scrutiny.
@@redman1249 didn’t know that nor have I done much research into it. Can you explain how that works? I’d love to know more. Is it constructed in space or on the ground? Is it’s mass too large to escape atmosphere once entered or something else I’m missing?
@@redman1249 didn’t know that nor have I done much research into it. Can you explain how that works? I’d love to know more. Is it constructed in space or on the ground? Is it’s mass too large to escape atmosphere once entered or something else I’m missing?
@@redman1249 : Rogue One literally shows an Imperial class hovering in atmosphere. Further, the idea that they couldn't was an EU thing that I never saw justified.
Hard to believe Disney tried to shit something worse out than Book of Boba Fett. Gotta give them credit for trying to get under such a low bar. Fcking amazing
One complaint on the deal with Star Destroyers landing, and also sorta this whole video, firstly, ISDs have always, always been able to enter orbit. I mean, hell, Tarkin landed his ISD on a crown of protestors in an comic pre-Disney. It's just implied they don't do that commonly because it'd be really hard for them to get up from the ground. Secondly, the Snowspeeders were ALWAYS implied and outright stated to be uparmored, upgunned and repurposed cargo haulers that the Rebels repurposed because they had nothing better. That really defuses the first few minutes and complaints, but the rest I do totally agree with.
I love this channel. Very rarely are videos so well edited and so on point with writing, soundbites etc. Thanks a lot for the work and passion you're putting into this, Mr. Head! Dankeschön! Greetings from Germany :)
Mate...your in-depth analysis of this show is pure gold! It also makes one realise how deeply, deeply flawed and ridiculously unprofessional everything about this show is, from A-Z. Why did McGregor sign up for and co-produce this?!
he signed up for the scrapped movie then agreed to do the show based on the original scripts. then those scripts were scrapped and replaced with the newer, crappier scripts. the budgets were cut and incompetent people hired for the final product. I feel sorry for Ewan.
I think he was more interested in being Obi-wan again, and fighting with Hayden again on screen rather than being especially concerned with the particulars of the show.
But it made a good point. If it could do that, then you would use that tactic everywhere as it would be very effective (and over powered) - which is why they didn't. It's like the "Holdo manoeuvre", if you could destroy fleets by jumping in to hyperspace at them, you would do it all the time, including at the death star in ep4, which is what makes it so stupid. This is why writers have to be careful when they introduce new abilities or tactics.
@@fuzzblightyear145 I mean, you can't actually blame Disney for having a capital ship in operating in atmosphere. A venator literally drops out of hyperspace in atmosphere in the very first episode of the Clone Wars. There's no way George Lucas wasn't at least somewhat involved in writing the first episode of his new Star Wars show.
Imma push back a bit on that Pilot bit at the beginning for 3 reasons. 1) Paul Sun-Hyung Lee is a Canadian national treasure and starwars nut and it's amazing to see him as a Republic Pilot and I will not excuse it for any reason. 2) Porkins was in episode 4 so we have a 40 year precedence of fat pilots in the Rebel alliance. 3) X-wings are NOT equivalent to the forces exerted on pilots in jet fighters, they have both etheric rudders and inertial dampeners which negate the forces of inertia meaning pilots experience either extremely low, or negligible shifts in momentum during maneuvers and do not experience the blood pressure issues modern pilots do. The in-universe science makes this argument invalid, and that's really the only thing that matters.
A tiny speeder, built for speed and barely big enough to accommodate two people, is somehow is supposed to haul sewage. Zero thought was put into that. In real life, semi trucks haul sewage with huge tank trailers. But, by this show's logic, it would make more sense to have a friggen ferrari haul that load.
The hoth battle still makes me N U T when I see it even today and seeing arguably the coolest atmospheric ship in star wars with one of the coolest forms and creative weapons in the tripping line turned into a plot divice makes me want to die
11:09 the sad part being that it should have been easier post-production for the special effects team to line up the blaster bolts with Reeva's blocks than for the actor to "guess" at what and where she should be blocking
So the famous Snowspedder is now only good enough to transport human waste. Awesome! Do Lucasfilm hate George Lucas or just his creations? Let me know in the comments. And as always, if you want to have more success this week as well as more action, remember to Like, Subscribe, Share and Bell this video. Cheers my crazy friends!
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2:10 To be fair, no, he couldn't. The rebels had an Ion cannon that would have disabled the ship and caused it to come crashing into the planet.
But just enough human waste to fill a bucket that fits on the back seat. Where the Dacks of the world would one day sit. Hopefully none spilt or we technically could have ended up with shitty Dacks. That's an Australian joke only I think.
Imagine a company you named after yourself goes out of its way to hate you, your characters, and everything you stand for when it's no longer in your hands.
It's hard to believe!
Disney? oh, Lucasfilm
4billion says it's ok
@@fidelperez4837 Honestly Walt Disney would probably hate modern day Disney, you know because of its acceptance of Black people and Jews. Okay sudden dark joke based on facts aside he's probably rolling in his grave.
I'm surprised it's not called 'KKkFilms' because of how much that bitch fucked up everything
Wade, a character with no screen time before his death scene, got more moarning time than Han, or Luke, or Leia. Disney Star Wars, everyone.
Part of Disney's participation award mindset. What's annoying is Disney trying to put everything that they have in their animated disney princess movies into Star Wars instead of keeping it as it should be
It’s because any more scenes with Lucas era characters means Disney would have to pay him 12 cents. And Disney is already cheap with these productions...
A moment of silence for Wade.
Not Wade! Nooooooooooooooooo!
Leia was literally mourned for.
Overall lore for the T-47 "Air Speeder" is that it was a light Cargo Hauler. The tow cables shown in ESB were used to latch on to repulsor-fitted containers. (we see Speeder Bikes do this in Star Wars Rebels.) The "Snow Speeder" shown in ESB is a heavily armored and modified version of the original civilian-sold T-47. The arctic variants are literally the Rebellion slapping crap together on a sub-standard airframe and praying it didn't fall apart (which was more than 70% of their Starfighter Corps at the time)
Finally someone pointing this out. It makes no sense for these two speeders to have the same (supposedly) jury-rigged blaster cannons as the ones installed by the rebels. Why would anyone feel the need to put massive blaster cannons on shit-haulers? They are just lazily copying old designs because they take us for fools, or are too foolish themselves to understand the complexity of what they ar eworking with.
*Hits roof of new snowspeeder*
This boy...
*Snowspeeder collapswa*
Erm...we need another one
What gets me is that of all things they could've used it for., they used it to transport ... crap. It is an odd choice considering all the things it could've otherwise transported. They could have said anything else, but they chose literal shit to be their story board choice of what they used it for. It says a lot about the writers opinion of it.
And outside of that, the portrayal of it from what I saw here is absurd. It's like they never even tried to understand how their own ships function. For instance, since it definitely could not have had several people pile into the rear cockpit, why didn't they have a container towed. Sure that would be uncomfortable, but it would have made more sense.
Or just use some larger speeder that could hold several people. Like one of dozen shuttles parking arround as seen in earlier scenes.
just imagine: you have a vehicle designed for heavy lifting, with strong towing cables and modified to have a better engine and a set of high power cannons, plus extra heavy plating for protection, all repurposed to become an actually efficient fighting vehicle.... it would be fair to still want to use it for hauling purposes inside of a rebel base, yes... but just imagine... using it to haul, of all things, literal human waste... the only thing that you can get rid of without giving a crap (no pun intented) in the middle of space, and you go around hauling it like its some sort of treasure? bruuuuuuuhhhh
Disney spent billions to purchase Star Wars and millions more to merchandise it, yet they can’t be bothered to hire halfway decent writers
The post-disney star wars is so bad that I genuinely believe I could have written something exponentially better.
Or visual effects. Everything on this show looks cheap, lazy, and unimaginative.
They tried, but it kept causing "creative differences" with Kennedy. Is this supposed to be a franchise or her own personal ego trip? Anything would be better than this.
They gotta save money somewhere. They don't care if the shows are _good_ as long as people watch them.
Don’t forget their $4B boondoggles Galaxy’s Edge and the insanely overpriced Galactic Starcruiser hotel? She couldn’t even settle going back to basics with George’s worlds or characters, since they’d have pony up royalties to Lucas?
At least they’d be booked solid, and making huge returns on their investment?
the fact that the Snowspeeders blaster bolts are kind enough to not explode on impact especially with the ground when fired at Reva to give her a fair chance just shows how honorable a piece of machinary it is. Snowspeeders are the true Knights of this universe.
Underated as fuck
The problem with the Hoth scenario with regards to the Star Destroyer is that, because of Admiral Ozzel's incompetence, the rebels had their shields up which meant that the empire had to send in slow moving walkers to get in close enough to take out the shield generator
Nope, you're wrong.. Lucas is super awesome and brilliant, he is incapable of doing anything wrong ever and Disney is incapable of doing anything right. Didn't you watch the video?
When Lucas uses green screen and special effects it's perfect and there is absolutely nothing wrong.. if anyone else does something similar it is a load of c**p.
Just because another writer and director found a new way deploy a Star Destroyer is no reason not to continue to s**t on Disney
@@gonzo26nix I get the feeling that you didn't read a single thing that I posted
@@Steve_P_B my apologies.. I meant that as sarcasm since the op was so in favour of anything Lucas did being without fault that I actually agreed with you that the snowspeeder variant of the ship was terrible.
@@gonzo26nix however, in this comment that you are replying to, I am not talking about the snow speeders
yeah... this why i avoid these your of channels and videos. these black and white thinkers.
Lucas did some amazing things and some really stupid things.
the other people working for Disney now have done some amazing things and some stupid things.
because... we're all human which means we have this duality inside us: dark and light, good and evil, smart or stupid, we all exist on this spectrum.
creative choices are just that. i do agree the quality and effort in some shows and films was low compared to others but others have been incredible and i can find good things or bad things in any of them.
some "fans" just feed off of hate and complaining or shitting on things.
the logic of this video is bad.
I miss when Star Wars as a franchise tended to have intimidating villains. Even Admiral Piett had a sense of professional Imperial about him. None of these new clowns do at all.
Director Krennic? Gideon doesn't seem too bad either?
@@Red_emp_tion even Krennic was egomanial to an excessive degree. Gideon was better but just missed potential in that garbage tv show. I'd love to see a better written role for Giancarlo.
@@snowclams1450 Oh yeah. Both the actors are excellent and could be written better.
I do like Krennic's crazy because I feel like not every bad guy should be totally intimidating or a total genius. (Vader and Thrawn)
@@Red_emp_tion yeah I argued with myself in my mind about Krennic, and there are plenty of egotistical senior military officers out there irl too. Maybe I'm just desperate for anyone well written these days I expect it from everyone.
rogue one ruined Tarkin, so here's a copy/pasted reply I made to another reply on one of Anomaly Inc's videos explaining this. They're the same points used by Ponstory Games, a youtuber who made two of the best Star Wars critiques. It's long, so bear with me for a bit.
Tarkin didn't want the Rebellion to be aware of the Death Star, which doesn't make sense when you consider the fact they could destroy the Rebellion in one shot, which was the tactic used in "Return Of The Jedi" and was even attempted BY TARKIN in "A New Hope". Also, since the Empire was planning to test the weapon anyway, why is it a problem that the Rebels get together? Even if the weapons test was postponed, the outcome would still be the same. The Rebels would still make a fleet and try to fight them. What difference does it make when the Rebels discover the existence of the Death Star? The bigger problem would be that the Rebels already found the weakness of the Death Star, which he never mentions because he's not aware of it yet. Tarkin should know that a weapons test will convince and push the Rebels to assemble a fleet a lot quicker than the simple knowledge that the Death Star exists, which would help the Empire more than it would the Rebels. The Empire consists of power-hungry tyrants, so why would they be afraid of the Rebels ganging up on them. Tarkin arbitrarily blew up Alderaan in ANH, he had no care at all for who or what was on it, he'd destroy it for fun just to show his power. If they were realistically portrayed, they'd tell the Rebels: "You either send us all of your fleets immediately or we'll blow up random planets. In fact, start rounding up each other's fleets and hand them over and if anyone opposes our orders , you fight them for us or we'll destroy your homeworlds". Why would they build it if they were worried about the Senate discovering the existence of the Death Star? Why do they even care what the Senate thinks when they can disband it at the drop of a hat? Which happens in ANH. Tarkin's portrayal in Rogue One contradicts his actions and portrayal in ANH.
I respectfully disagree with the criticism about “parking a star destroyer” on hoth, the rebels were defended from orbital attack by a shield and an ion canon, which was used to disable a star destroyer in the movie. The AT-ATs were sent in to destroy the shield, which would allow the star destroyers to target defensive systems, like the ion canon, from orbit
Exactly. 👍🏼
Not to mention at light speed ur not supposed to be able to go through things, at least originally. They go over this in anh about just jumping straight to lightspeed and you'll hit something and shatter into a million pieces. So that shield they had on hoth would be destroyed the star destroyer if they tried to enter at hyperspeed
but what about parking them in the last jedi
@@superdudeduck5150 I will not waste my precious time trying to make sense of that abomination of a film
Beat me to it
Weird how no one knows the origin of this famous ship, it was originally a forklift/towtruck for shipbuilding yards in space, it's even mentioned in Empire, Luke tells everyone when fighting the walkers to "use their tow cables" and seeing as how the rebels had limited resources they attached guns on the sides so it is basically a "technical"
This is correct. Most hard core Star Wars fans actually forget the Tow Cable attack on Hoth was literally pulled out of Luke's ass when he said that. Which is why the AT-AT had zero defense against it. Prior to this according to the EU because I am sure none of this exist with Disney, the Airspeeders would carry bombs with the cables and the pilots would drag the bombs into AT-AT's to kill them.
@@Seriona1 that's from lego starwars my guy
It's the Star Wars version of a Toyota with a DShK on it. 😂
the part where the random pilot who we knew for like 5 seconds died, and then everyone mourned him for like 4 minutes, and it was poised as like a major tragedy, was pure comedy
Yeah, that struck me as very bizarre and tiresome too. Like, why are we supposed to care about this?
Was that some kind of rewrite? It made no sense. Maybe he was supposed to be a prequel actor that bailed at the last minute.
Even in a comedy when they make a joke about a member of the team dying (by having him say it's his first day on the job and also 3 days before retirement while showing pictures of his family) it's more emotional than this.
You do realise that the fanbase were just 'mourning' Wade partially as a joke, right? It's akin to mourning for Porkins within the Battle of Yavin or Crynyd during the Battle of Endor.
@@AshanBhatoa New Hope didn't show characters mourning Porkins for 5 minites.
A little detail, if you look at Star Wars Encyclopedias, and check out the various spaceships' details, you can see the huge difference in world-bulding care/lore: Prequel and Original Trilogy vehicles/spaceships have detailed numbers listed (Star Destroyer: 60 turbolasers, 60 ion cannons 6 heavy turbolasers etc); Sequel Trilogy spaceships have random details (First Order Star Destroyer: turbolasers, ion cannons, point-defence turrets and missiles etc).
They just don't care 👍
To be fair, those details came about in the decades after in expanded media, especially the tabletop game where every ship has to have specific stats.
But your point stands, the sequel stuff has never had anything more than superficial details. They just pick their favorite concept art (what if TIE Fighter again but red stripe?) and use it with no regard to anything else.
@@ricktheroux7650 Fair enough. Still, beside the fact you can physically see the 6 heavy turbolaser batteries on the old Star Destroyers (you cannot say the same for the new ones), you can tell the designs were inspired by WW2 ships/planes to be somewhat believable.
That's why I think it's a shame that instead of being inspired by Cold War/Early '90 designs they went with CGI "More of the Same but Worse".
Another fun fact: in one of those books it says that those fins on the center back of the snowspeeder where added to keep the engine warm cause Hoth was so damn cold. I can only image how hot the engine is on that planet
@@benyatzee162 probably different mods. The T47s in ESB are specifically modified for the cold, they said it in the movie
It would have been really cool if we got all sorts of new ship designs for the sequel trilogy. Maybe a renaissance of ship design and innovation brought about by the New Republic. We could have got star fighters combining the best aspects of TIE fighters and X-wings, and a new line of Star Destroyers used by the New Republic.
Reva “deflecting” literally looks like a child randomly swinging a sword at imaginary enemies. Some general advice for choreographing, blocks and deflects need to be reactions and they need to move from static to dynamic quickly. None of this constant twirling and twisting nonsense, it just highlights the green screen
Also how is she deflecting ship bolts which have been shown to be like 10x more thicker and powerful than normal blasts. They literally move the pilot when they come out the ship and explode on impact.
Sounds like the actor was barely given any directions
We've gotten to the point where that old viral video of that fat kid swinging around a broom like a lightsaber is now on par with actual Star Wars choreography.
@@mrfilmreviewcriticman4110 Actually, in ESB, the speeders blow up the downed AT-AT with their main guns. She wouldn't just be dead, she would be instantly disintegrated.
@@mrfilmreviewcriticman4110 I surely can't do that on Battlefront
Remember in classic star wars when Darth Vader would execute any incompetent officers for a minor mistake. Well now he let's them off in Disney canon for destroying his bases.
it genuinely hurts to watch Disney literally curveball Vader's entire personality of dealing death so that the worst, most forced in character in Star Wars is 'magically' kept alive for plot purpose.
"I-I placed a t-tracker on them!' basically just stating they're back to square one again, but apparently this is a success for Vader? what a fucking joke
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 What made me mad was how gently he let her down. It would have been a little better if he just dropped her because that’s what you’d expect from him.
Not exactly true. In ESB, it's implied Admiral Ozzel had a string of failures before the battle of Hoth. Alerting the rebels on Hoth wasn't a minor mistake, it was the last straw. Captain Needa for the most part was unlucky. Vader was obsessed with finding the Falcon not caring how much damage the Star Destroyers took in the asteroid field. Needa seemed to be following standard procedure to capture the Falcon but gave up a little too quickly when the Falcon "escaped", Vader chiming in for an update on the pursuit right afterwards couldn't have come at a worse time either. For the most part, it was Vader's obsession that killed Needa, not a minor mistake.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 What made me mad is that he didn’t kill Reva or just let her drop to the ground like a ton of bricks. Remember his interaction with Krennic? I wanted that type of interaction where he didn’t give a shit.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 Wasn't Ozzel before Empire strikes back basically off limits for Vader to execute as punishment for failing to protect the death star, set by Palpatine. And only near the start of Hoth was Vadar allowed to do what he wished again.
2:03-2:27 Actually, there's a possible explanation for why Hoth, and Jedha were the way they are. Here's a little EU Lore, mixed with what was directed mentioned in Empire Strikes Back itself. At Hoth, The Rebels were protecting their base with a powerful deflector shield, so that in case The Empire discovered their location, they couldn't just shoot down to the planet's surface, and blow up the rebel base from orbit (A tactic known as "Orbital Bombardment"). Due to Admiral Ozzel's complete incompetence (Which Vader took care of soon after), The Rebels were alerted to an Imperial Attack, and raised the shield, thus forcing The Empire to attack them on the ground with their walkers. Why couldn't The Empire fly through the shields with The Star Destroyers, but the walkers could get through? Here's where The EU lore comes in. In the lore, not only could energy weapons not break through the shields, hence why they were used defensively in the first place, but ships, and vehicles with Repulsorlift Technology (Think Luke's speeder on Tatooine in A New Hope, the vehicles flying through Coruscant's skyline in The Prequel Trilogy, and The Cloud Cars on Bespin in ESB, for example) couldn't either. This is why The Trade Federation Droid Army, specifically their tanks, couldn't just ignore The Gungan Shields in The Phantom Menace, and mow down all The Gungans like a lawnmower does with grass, because they relied on Repulsorlift Technology too. That's why they had to deploy the droids themselves to get through the shield, and slaughter The Gungans up close, because the droids themselves didn't rely on that technology like their tanks did. When Flying in Space (Where there is no gravity), The Star Destroyers would just fly like normal Spaceships would, but when in atmosphere, and thus under a planet's gravitational influence, they would need to use Repulsorlift Technology to stay in the air, otherwise they would crash onto the planet, and (possibly) never fly again. Therefore, they could not go through The Rebels' shields, unlike their walkers, which didn't rely on that technology, and had legs to "walk" on to move around, instead. But, Jedha didn't have a planetary shield, in fact, it wasn't technically an enemy world, since The Empire would mine certain minerals, and resources on it, so why would it need to activate its shield against an allied force? Without a shield like that, The Star Destroyer would have no problem flying over a city with its Repulsorlifts keeping it above the ground at all times.
That's my reasoning for it, anyway.
Assuming that's the case, how did the walkers get to the planet surface in the first place?
@@jonathanw1019 dropships. That’s been established in cannon since empire strikes back.
@@jonathanw1019 and before you say "how did the drop ships get through the shield?" They didn't, they landed outside the shield to deploy the walkers
Given how inept the First Order is, and the fact that they just lost their flagship and most of their fleet to a maneuver none of them apparently expected, I don't think they were being rational.
@@kirknay no that’s just how it normally goes in Star Wars
What about the fact that the snow speeders are flying full speed into the hanger with no space to turn around? It’s like when Han pulled out of light speed on Starkiller Base and didn’t plow straight into the mountain? Unless they had a better version of Poe’s handbrake turn from TLJ (just as funny as the SpaceBalls scene mocking the physics of it) both of those snow speeders should have rammed straight into the back of the hanger…
Oh yeah, I mention that 👍
They got everything about the speeders wrong tbh. They are civilian speeders, but the rebels armed them with assault cannons. Ones that are made for “hauling sewage” should not have those weapons, they don’t come like that. I wish they just came up with different speeders to use.
How did they get there? Is everything just hyperspace capable now?
@@paxwax1 I guess so. The "speeders" can fly exactly like spacecraft now, so why not?
I liked what the games did, I assume that it was copied from EU lore, they couldn't fly more than a set distance off of the ground, and they couldn't do loop-de-loops and other crap because they were "speeders" and not "fighters", their technology was more like the cars and bikes that scoot along the ground. Disney made the SW universe less interesting just for the sake of a cheap OT 'member berry.
You think ANYONE making this shit knows how SPEED works?
The fortress had shields 5 years earlier when Cal infiltrated it.
The writers just kind of forgot that the entire source for this structure was canon...
Disney has had trouble maintaining some form of continuity since they bought Star Wars. That was why they said originally why they scrapped the old expanded universe(although reality is they didn't want to pay royalties). They were like, Leia was never trained as a Jedi. Then after her space flight, they flip-flopped on why she was able to do that, before rewriting that she did have some Jedi training. Poe Dameron was like Leia's second son. They already filled in his back story, then had to flip it so he had a checkered past in Rise of Skywalker. Luke was able to see the good in his Father who has one of the most kills of anyone in universe, but doesn't think his nephew can be saved over a bad dream. Then having Luke give up in his entirety, out of character. They gave Han a similar treatment.
@@TribbleArtCreations Disney's canon makes the Expanded Universe look like a masterpiece of literature
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck the EU’s overall Skywalker story is like a Tolkien work compared to Disney’s fanfic
True, the Falcon was in episode 3, but two things. First, the YT-1300 was mass-produced as a freighter and it could easily be another one operating during the clone-wars. Second, canonically, that WAS the falcon in episode 3 because it's an older model, however importantly Lando HEAVILY upgraded it with top of the line systems and restored it to near mint condition as his personal transport and smuggling vessel before Han won it in a game of sabaac (in the old canon, Lando said he could pick any ship on the lot of his starship junkyard and intended Han to pick one of the shiny hot-rod type ships and not the ugly looking freighter he was secretly upgrading with military grade hardware.)
The YT-1300 was a very common freighter across the galaxy, for all we know that little Millennium Falcon looking ship could’ve been any old YT-1300 class light freighter because Corellian ships are extremely common in the Star Wars galaxy. The Millennium Falcon was a very unique ship. Most notably for its ridiculously fast Class 0.5 hyperdrive.
I have to say I am amazed at how bad everything with starwars has become. I can't tell if it's actual incompetence or just genuine purposeful self destruction with everything they do or have done. Even the bad fan fiction stories of starwars are better than things I have seen disney "create" with the godawfully ugly and stupid Vespa scooter speeders, the t-47 snowspeeders which have no explanation on how they got there (as far as I am aware the t-47 doesn't have any space jump / hyperdrive capabilities so how did a rebel ship not get spotted on Imperial scanners? ) Even if you only payed attention 15% of the time to the original and the prequels trilogies you'd have a better chance at making a starwars show/movie than disney would at this point.
For me, the sequel trilogy was strike 1. Boba Fett was strike 2, and this...Obi-Wan is the end of my interest in Disney Star Wars. The Mandalorian is good, but even that was weighed down in s2 by almost every episode being a long trailer for ANOTHER show...
Those vesper speeders from Boba Fett were apparently leftover props from a Spykids film that were lying around in storage.
I'll give them credit for saving money by recycling old equipment but they couldn't even alter them or repaint them to look passable for Star Wars technology. That's lazy even by Disney standards.
I blame half on stupidity (doesn't need explaining) and half on a tight schedule.
With the originals and the prequels you had 3 years between the movies releases. With the prequels you had the bonus that the story was planned out before they stared shooting the first one. That's enough time to plan everything.
Then we jump to Disney times. They bought Lucasfilm in 2012 and had their first movie in 2015. That's an ok time span for one movie. But they had only 2 years for the following movies and because the trilogy wasn't planned ahead the time ran out. They also had a Star Wars story in between each movie with occupies production capacities that could have been used for the trilogy.
Releasing a new Star Wars movie each year is unnecessary and too ambitious.
Then they did the exact same mistake when it came to the shows. A new series each year is again too ambitious when you consider they reused parts of the Mandalorian set for the book of Boba Fett. It's overall not planned through because "the fans need content to stay fans". Disney treats us like toddlers. When were not occupied we loose interest and turn on the franchise
@@desmondd1984 The Last Jedi alone had strikes 1 through 50 for me. I did watch Mando season 1 but it was mediocre so I dumped my free year of Disney+ early and never looked back.
At this point I genuinely feel like Disney is going out of their way to destroy Star Wars in every way they can
Did not know about the whole different vehicles of different eras thing. That actually is really brilliant and does explain why things went from looking all flashy, new and the like to more utilitarian, with more focus on function over fashion.
I didnt know this either, but its actually pretty ingenious from George. Sadly this type of writing, design and passion is a lost art form.
@@homi1001 Yup, now people's only passion is politics.
It also makes sense from a non-aesthetic perspective, in the sense that the Republic had the commerce and wealth to be able to have fancy looking vehicles, whereas the rebels [in the time of the Empire] would be strapped for access to the same materials and would be forced into doing the best they can which means focussing on function over design. (Though the X-Wings still look super cool!)
Star Trek does this as well. No better example than the Enterprise C design. Junkball did a good video about it.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 yep
I'm guessing that the ion cannon the rebels had set up on Hoth would have disabled any Star Destroyer attempting to breach the atmosphere, so a smaller ground force had to be sent to knock down the defenses. The Empire probably used drop ships that were too small to be effectively engaged by the massive cannon, but weren't large enough to be unaffected by ground fire, so they had to land a good distance away, then walk in.
Honestly, the ion cannon might have been the only thing the drop ships had to avoid (because a dingy never wins against a battleship shell). They might have entered the atmosphere out of sight, and then just made a point of staying out of the firing arc for a landing even at the very edge of the shield.
The hoth energy shield and ion cannon prevented star destroyers from parking on top. "Land your troops beyond the energy shield and prepare your troops for a surface attack" That's why General Veers needed to target the power generator so that these two defenses would go down.
The snow speeders were modified. Originally, they were civilian tow vehicles and quite old. Their canopies do open incorrectly though.
And in disney's era, every planet has suddenly forgot to install those security measures
Why the Imperials chose to not deploy any fighters during the Battle of Hoth always bothered me though. They could have at least be waiting beyond the atmosphere to intercept any Rebel spacecrafts that are trying to escape.
@@lv83bloodknight Right. You'd also think after the failure of the death star they would adopt more anti-fighter tactics as well.
The speeder cockpit being wrong bugged me a lot. Makes me wonder if Lucasfilm bothers to check that new artists have seen all the films.
@@Vanerrad yeah true, and also the Tie fighters are ALWAYS ALWAYS coming in hard at the rear, with some rebel pilot screaming about it before being shot down. So if rebels always employ those attack formations, why aren't any ships developed for rear defence, with heavy rear guns and targeting bots, i mean surely advanced bots can target better than people.
The selling of Star Wars to Disney will go down as one of the greatest blunders and losses in human history.
I remember claiming star wars was dead the instant I learned Disney bought it. So many people sneered at me. Well well, smooth brains. Looks like nobody is laughing now.
its our fault. Lucas got so much crap after the prequels that he probably thought selling SW was a good idea. Turns out the prequels were actually good. (episode 3 was GREAT) Fans should send Lucas an apology letter.
@@theendistheend123 I never had an issue with the prequels. Sure we didn't need jarjar or space diner and Darth Maul was criminally underused but those movies still totally hold up overall
@@theendistheend123 Exactly. People are crying for George Lucas to come back when we were the ones to disown him in the first place. It's ridiculous George deserves better
@@eddiebendigo7317 Not to mention the CGI from the third movie. Like man it'll look like it came out a few years ago.
This whole hanger scene haunts me to this day. Sooooo freaking bad.
The amount of stupidity packed into every episode of The Adventures of Young Leia is simply overwhelming. I appreciate your efforts at documenting it.
It’s crazy man! This dude one of the only ones on RUclips exposing this
Disparu has really good content on it as well. Along with Vito. Check them out!
The Adventures of Young Leia. Gold.
The dumbest thing is ALL of this shit could've been fixed with ONE change.
Make it LUKE instead of LEIA.
With Leia, SHE'S ON THE EMPIRE'S SIDE! EXPLICITLY! Her father works for them! He controls a PLANET. To rescue her LITERALLY all he had to do was get her, point her at the nearest Trooper, and send her off to tell them what happened! DONE! EVERY PROBLEM SOLVED! OBI WAN CAN DISAPPEAR AGAIN!
If it's LUKE that gets kidnapped, you can do ANYTHING and so long as Obi Wan doesn't use his Lightsaber in view of Luke, everything can just be justified as the reason Luke is such good friends with a seemingly random old man that lived near him in New Hope.
Like he could have been sent to get fucking milk, then grabbed by some slavers, it's Tatooine, there's gonna be some slavers around. Obi Wan obviously sees this, can't reach them fast enough to get Luke back, so he goes after them QUEUE epic space rescue. The empire doesn't even have to be involved! If you want them involved though, you can have a reveal that the Empire hires the slavers for nefarious reasons or something, I dunno. It's also a good excuse for Obi Wan to use his abilities as minimally as possible, and especially so within sight of Luke. He's supposed to be in HIDING and protecting Luke. Both of those things get MUCH harder if Luke knows too much.
@@haku8135 that Obi Wan fanfilm that even has James Arnold Taylor (his Clone Wars VA) in it is better than this entire show.
What pisses me off the most about this episode is that Cal Kestis broke into the fortress in the exact same way years earlier and no one thought it was a good idea to maybe tighten security in that area
"Um ackshually Fallen Order isn't canon"
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@@derpcade Who actually says that lol
@@andrewglaszcz7169 People who like eating garbage.
@@andrewglaszcz7169 iT's jUsT a ViDeO gAmE bUt iT mAdE mIlIlIons oF dOLlaRs.
@@derpcadeEven though it is considered Canon?
I always just kinda rolled with the prequel ships being sleeker but your mass production theory makes total sense
1000 years of flying ships throughout the new and old republic and they just happen to fall into mass production conceptual design near the tail end?
It makes since when you look at it from a timeline perspective, the OT and the sequels all take place within a 40 year gap, and all you ever see are x wings, and star destroyer and speeders, maybe with minor improvements but still the same general concept, I understand where your coming from but at the end of the day they're movies and none of it makes any logical sense
@@Clifford2005 none of it?
@@jonathanw1019 because the empire completely changed the galaxy, and every aspect of it
@@jonathanw1019Well if you look at it that way. You could also look at human history and say 1000+ years of riding horses, and then this idiot species suddenly goes to internal combustion engine cars, which advance technologically at an INCREDIBLE rate for like 100 years and then all the sudden the whole industry wants to shift to battery powered electric? I mean, humans often make very little sense. Changes in technology make even less sense from an outside perspective. A whole lot of people who were alive when the Wright brothers made their first flight in that glorified toothpick glider with less horsepower than my lawnmower, were also still alive when the SR-71 was tearing its titanium ass through the sky at Mach fuck. 😂 Seriously, think about how insane that is. My own grandpa, who was old enough to remember when Lindbergh made the first trans-atlantic flight in the spirit of st louis, would later fly across that same ocean faster than the speed of sound on a Concorde, and eating warm meals in a comfy seat in a 747.. Shit be wacky. Lol
9:32 *_"Whoever made this has no sense of size, speed, depth or direction."_* EXACTLY! That was simply horrendous! I couldn't believe they approved that sequence!🤯
Yo nothing worse for my sleep schedule and college homework than refreshing my home RUclips page and seeing Robot Head. We gonna watch this all the way to the end. Bye bye sanity...
Or my ADHD. LOL
Haha for me it was perfectly timed when I woke up 👌
Funnily enough, the Corellian YT-1300 (the most famous example of this model being the Millennium Falcon) is actually a very old design in legends. It was supposedly manufactured well before the Prequel Trilogy (+50 years). The Falcon in particular was originally in Lando's possession, then was lost to Han in a card game.
The reason why we get to see the Millennium Falcon look like she did "new" was because Lando kept her nice. From what we gather from the Solo movie, he also kept her under a tarp for the most part. She may have even been "restored" at some point in time to look new, and even modified and retrofitted well before Han started chopping and splicing who knows what inside her.
A good example and comparison of how the Falcon became a "piece of junk" in the Original Trilogy would be like a person who owned a pristine 1932 Ford Coupe, factory original and kept in a garage. They lose it to a bootlegger in a card game, and the bootlegger decides to not only take it for one heck of a test drive running and smuggling stuff (causing all kinds of body/mechanical damage from evading cops), but also chopping parts and pieces, welding new parts, and generally modifying it into a frankenstein (or rat rod) version of what it used to be. Then letting it fall apart while he's trying to "fix" it himself.
That's pretty much why the Falcon looks like "junk" in the Original Trilogy. Mostly because Han really did a number on the poor Falcon putting her through all kinds of stress and abuse. He "tries" to keep her looking nice, but not hard enough. XD
The timeframe of the existence of space flying ships in Star Wars is over thousands of years, from the Old Rep. to the New Rep. 50 years is not "very old" by any conceivable measure of time in said universe.
@@jonathanw1019 the timeframe of the existence of sailing ships is thousands of years, from the Macedonians to modern America. However, most ships don't make it past 40 years before they're scrapped.
@@retrograde98xp7 well clearly that’s not the case in Star Wars
@@jacktheflash8478 Why wouldn't it be? None of the ships from the old republic era are still in service by the time of the prequels. By the time of the original trilogy all of the prequel era ships were out of service.
Even if technological stagnation means things never become obsolete, they still wear down and break.
@@retrograde98xp7 The average age of general aviation (private) airplanes is 30 years old, with many over 50. Flying is relatively new, so that number may continue to grow.
Since Star Wars has ships in the vacuum of space, we might see ships live longer because they are subject to less wear and tear. Really depends on how much they're used and how hard they're pushed.
I cannot believe the Snowspeeder's just HOVER in mid-air, completely functionally contradicting the battle of Hoth where they're always going forward to make passes, and cannot just stop wherever they are to fire on a target. Seeing the speeder's do this in 'Kenobi' looked terrible and made no sense whatsoever.
Almost all ships in star wars have the ability to hover in mid air, but doing it on Hoth would have been suicidal due to constant heavy fire.
Not defending this crap, just some love for those poor snowspeeder.
Yes. You can see in TESB that they also use airbrakes to control direction in flight. In a hover with no air passing over the airbrakes the snowspeeder must be very unmaneuverable. Another issue I have with the Obiwan episode is that the cannons on the snowspeeder couldn't possibility both fire at Reva at such close range. She would be waaay inside their convergence range.
@@JeJe-mz9gg I agree that it would make them a sitting duck for AT-AT's, but then it makes (Zev) Rogue Two look like a jackass for streaking past Hans makeshift camp when he finds them on Hoth. 🤷♂️
@@RoboticPope Right. The snowspeeders can hover, but it's more of a "get off the ground... now go forward." Not really maneuvering for combat. The need to go fast forward to maneuver properly, especially to be nimble enough for combat. They would have had no real way to angle those blasters to shoot at Reva.
How could the T47s transport sewage if they can't brake or hover? How would they even pick up the sewage unless they had a runway?
God modern Lucasfilm sucks
Not only did Lucas take style cues from classic cars in the prequels, he straight up used a few. Bail Organa's speeder in RotS is a Tucker Torpedo, and a Phantom Corsair can be seen on one of the landing pads.
I also believe that the air speeder in AotC that Anakin "borrows" is a homage to Milner's duece coupes in American Grafitti.
now that you mention that it actually makes sense as I remember the cars from the movie.
Roddenberry said he and his creative team came up with the transporter because the ship was too big to just land.
Seeing those star destroyers hovering like that made me want to science the hell out of them.
"Graviton flux charge" or something. Basically some quantum-voodoo-handwavium imitation of "the dirt is in the way!" that will give you enough description to figure out how it should act. I'd say that requiring thrust to move _out_ of that state (unless you destroy the equipment, in which case you should get some sort of highly energetic discharge of the "invested energy") would probably be the correct framework.
@@absalomdraconis quantum-voodoo-handwavium...I like that.
Why?
I heard it was because they had originally intended on using shuttles all the time, but filming the shuttle landing was too expensive to keep up with so they invented the transporter as a cheaper way of getting the characters onto any given planet.
@@Mega-Brick Film one shuttle landing, use it over and over but the transporter offers up some interesting story ideas.
Your intro never gets old. Those stomping AT-AT legs, the sound, the timing - soo cool :)
They should have just rotoscoped Fat Star Wars Kid in for Riva. Would have been a much better (and more believable) lightsaber scene
Absolutely spot on. Pleased you mentioned Luke's one set of farm boy clothes and the Obi wan bad speedsters (my favourite ship) wrecked. Again spot on. Thanks.
Aye, I really appreciate how Lucas was a rev head and it totally makes sense how he was inspired by different design eras. Both the 60s and 80s aesthetics really sing to me.
Didn’t OG trilogy have Porkins? There has always been one or two chunky pilots. Although I generally agree your main point you made there.
Instead of Porkins, now the have Commander Butadon on the Mandalorian.
This was an awful joke you might have to google...if you like awful lame jokes...
Bingo.
In X-Wing Rogue squadron, Wedge mentions that Porkins died because he was too fat. He had to fly with his G force cancellation system at maximum which ment he didn't realise that his fighter wasn't pulling up enough.
@@RoboticPope hahaha oh no!! That’s hilarious and terrible at the same time. Rogue Squadron writers felt the need to somewhat justify his death because he was fat haha. Yikes. Love those games btw.
Disney is inspiring millions of people. If the writers and editors of this show are considered "Professionals" then everyone else must be a phenom.
I used to be self conscious of my own inadequacies when it comes to writing and editing..... but seeing what goes into 100+ million dollar projects... I'm feelin pretty confident.
you also see 3 Millennium Falcons in Attack of Clones on Naboo almost like they were new during the Clone Wars era of Star Wars
Well, the ISD was always capable of going in atmosphere. The issue on Hoth was the shield generator. If there wasn't a shield generator, the Imperial Fleet would have just bombed the base, and everything within 10 km from orbit. It was just safer to keep the fleet in orbit as a net to prevent any escapees and send a ground force to infiltrate and destroy the shield.
I thought the Victory-class was the Star Destroyer that was atmosphere capable
@@moemothmann6760 : That was always an EU/Legends thing (like the Victory in general). Honestly, I don't know that they ever tried to give a justification for it either.
@@SciFiSecrets they have antigravity tech called repulser coils
@@moemothmann6760 In the prequels star destroyers and star destroyer size ships land on planets a lot, so we can be pretty sure that the ISD probably can as well. If it can't, that would make it the only class in the series that can't, since the acclamator, the venator, and the victory can all do it.
OG Star Wars fan that has read all the books here.
Both the Imperial and the Imperial-II class ISDs are more than capable of atmospheric operation. They were designed this way on purpose for the sake of intimidation, when bombardment was considered 'overkill', and also for ceremonial duties. It's important to remember what Star Destroyers are designed for - subjugation. The very shape of them, the tapered dagger-shaped hulls, means that you can point an ISD straight down at a city and fire every single weapon along the hull at a single point without fowling the sight lines of any other weapon due to the hull angle.
Victories were not designed for subjugation, they were designed with more tactical operations in mind, being ships of the line first, everything else second. Victories were a technical upgrade to Venators, whilst Imperials and Imperial-IIs were more of a totally new class of warship, despite sharing a range of features.
In the rogue squadron video game they used snow speeders for covert missions as they could fly below radar. They were used in the mission on corelia when Trix Madine of the Empire defected to the rebel Alliance. So that could explain why radar did not pick them up.
Now there's a man who knows his history.
If you unlocked it for use with each level, you couldn't beat the Sullist level because the speeder couldn't fly high enough to destroy the shield generator halfway through the level
@@finkamain1621 that would make sense however Disney messed up using them in the Kenobi show as those thing were flying higher then usual there. Unless they were retrofitted to fly higher.
The brilliant, innovative, ambitious Star Wars we knew is dead in all but name only now. If it were a restaurant, the chef and founder sold out and they turned it into a McDonald's, just didn't change the name, but everyone knows the food isn't the same.
The Hoth base was protected by an Ion cannon and shield. So no, they couldn't just drop a Star Destroyer above the rebel base. It's also why the AT ATs had to deploy so far away.
Tbh , they could bait the Rebels the use the ion cannon prematurely and then advance in a Star Destroyer.
The real reason is they don't have Repulsorlifts. But Disney hates technology so...
Exactly. It was never said in the OT that Star Destroyers couldn't land on planets and in the PT, we see Republic starships, precursors to Star Destroyers, landing. Of all the gripes to have with Disney Star Wars, that SD shot from Rogue One isn't a good one.
@@Stakex Actually, it was canon that the Victory Class Star Destroyer could do strafing runs in atmosphere, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch that ISDs are capable of doing the same.
Well, OK, but, you're then stuck with a bunch of secondary questions. Not the least of which is how come AT-ATs aren't stopped by the shield? You're going to want to say 'they're ray-shields and don't stop physical things.' Then the next question becomes, 'OK, but why not simply use Bombers to fly down and blow the crap out of the shield and ion cannon'? And now you're stuck. Also, General Kenneth Veers destroys the main power generator, informs Vader that he has done so, and tells him he may start his landing. Vader doesn't then come down in a star destroyer.
But, none of that really matters, what really matters is having Star Destroyers floating in the air violates the visual metaphor. Star Destroyers are battleships, they work in space, which is the ocean and sometimes the sky. Having one on land is like watching a version of Pearl Harbour where the Japanese carriers mount the beaches and we find out they all have huge tank treads on their undersides. You can have a movie where that sort of thing happens, but you really can't when you've got six prior movies, mountains of secondary tier work and decades of tertiary work where at no point was this capability so much as hinted at.
It'd be like having a fourth indiana Jones film where it turns out he has always been a wizard and resolves the issue at hand by summoning a dragon. There's nothing in the IJ universe that says this could not be true - magic of a kind has been seen in every IJ film after all, but anyone who would argue that doing so wouldn't be stupid as shit needs to be taken out and ballistically re-educated.
@@Belzediel Presumably because bringing the shields all the way down to ground level wouldn't work. ESB doesn't give any explanation for why not, we just know that's not how the shield generator works because if it did the Rebels would've used it that way to block the walkers. The old EU materials never bothered explaining that either as far as I know. Because not everything needs to be explained in every detail. Sometimes "that's just how the device works" is sufficient.
And after the shield generator was destroyed...the base was already being overrun, landing a Star Destroyer wouldn't bring any added benefit. It's not like it would make the Rebels *even more* defeated. It wouldn't get Vader himself down there faster either, because he's not on a Star Destroyer. He's on the Super Star Destroyer, which is at least a dozen times bigger. A regular Star Destroyer being capable of landing on a planet doesn't meant the Executor can as well.
T-47s also werent designed with those giant cannons, those were retrofits made by the Rebel Alliance, which doesnt exist yet....
Hell you cant even claim this particular resistance cell modified the speeders with the cannons, since they apparently only used them to haul sewage XD
People still try to argue with me asking why I don't like Disney Star Wars. I stopped trying to explain myself to them and simply ask them to watch your videos.
You forgot to talk about the last scene where Disney expects us to feel emotion for a character with 4 lines of dialogue. Like when I first watched this I was like “why is everyone sad”.
Remember in Empire, when Luke's co-pilot died? Based on their brief interaction, you could tell they were either friends or at least friendly with each other. But, Luke didn't have time to get all sad because he had more important things to focus on. And it was a war (the same war as in this show) Luke was probably used to losing comrades like all the rebels in this show should have been.
@@fattiger6957 at least Biggs Darklighter had more than 4 lines and had an established background unlike some random guy named wade.
Oh wait you were talking about his co pilot in hoth in Empire Strikes Back.
Another thing I dislike about this design is that they have the exact same blaster cannons as the ones installed by the rebels. These speeders were supposed to be used in a non-combat role in stock form. The rebels modified them to suit their needs with two massive forward facing blasters and a rear gun. The fact that these two speeders have the exact same forward-facing cannons makes no sense, not only chronologically―but because they were being used for hauling, not combat. The owners would have no reason to outfit them with heavy guns, because who would attack a shit-hauler anyway?
The fact George Lucas doesn’t get more respect from the company he founded is sad. If they really respected him, the state of “Star Wars” would not be the way it is right now. Just goes to show that once he walked away from the franchise and they made the trilogy, spin-offs and shows without his involvement in any major way from beginning to end that he is the true heart and soul of Star Wars. Without him, it’s just an empty shell. Might look nice visually, but there really isn’t much substance to it.
Tolkien's vision is next on the chopping block.
Disagree. Even George himself said that fans would've disliked his new trilogy, since it went more into midichlorians and stuff like that. By the way, the real heart and soul of Star Wars was Marcia Lucas. Her influence on George, while they were married, was what made the OT what it was. When George did his own trilogy, the Prequels, without Marcia, you could clearly see that the charm of the OT was just not there. George is excellent at world-building, though.
@@G360LIVE Marcia was an important part, but not all of it. There were other people that pushed to keep the force mystical and undefined (particularly evident in Empire), for example, but without them, the force became midichlorians and all that crap. George is a great ideas man, but he shouldn't have had complete control over any of this. Use his framework and his story, but NOT his screenplay, his direction, or his editing.
@@Sal-T I don’t get the hate about the midichlorians. I think ppl misunderstand the concept, cause they aren’t the force itself at all. The force is the force, same as it always has been. And the midichlorian thing is just a way to explain how some ppl can connect and use the force (while others can’t) and likewise how strong that connection can be or explain their innate ability with the force. It makes lines like “the force is strong with him” make sense.
@@84rinne_moo Because the force was an unknown mystical thing. You just kinda 'felt' it, and how good you were depended on ... something. How much you worked at it? Maybe... no one knows! It was just how in tune with it you were. You feel the force. It flows through you. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!
Then it became a measurable thing. How good are you with the force? XYZ midiclorians good, so says the measuring device! How do you interact with the force? Through midichlorians! You know... that crude matter.
It didn't need an explanation. It just was.
In one episode Darth says to Obi "I am what you made me!" Basically blaming Obi for him becoming Darth Vader.
Then in the last fight in the last episode, it's suddenly "Nah, you all good Obi. I, Darth Vader, killed Anakin"
So which fucking one is it Disney? Huh!? lol
first one is meant to be denial,ending one is truth . wish they made it more evident to distinguish that.
@@darthchilde8880 That would require character growth, and the show doesn't give Vader enough premise for that.
@@elbowremovalservice lol, i know vader dosent grow,what i mean to say is he knowingly lies the first time and reveal his true nature second time, and this dosent require character development cuz he knew he lied first time.
he was just trying to make obi wan feel bad the first time. second time he reveals the truth, a little bit of light side leaks out. simple as
7:58 to this person I would say
“Ah yes because the US is still fielding the F-86 Sabre as it’s top of the line interceptor in the modern era now huh?”
It's like all the Hollywood rejects who got turned down some odd years ago ended coming back and nobody remembered them. Now talent in every aspect of entertainment has all but disappeared and replaced with hacks and ineptitude
um no, the writer's strike in hollywood was a well known high profile thing.
when the 007 movie quantum of solace was coming out, they lost all their writers, so the movie is just basically a bunch of action scenes. it's regarded as the worst of those movies.
by and large, hollywood did not recover from the loss of those writers, ever.
and then woke came in to replace them, when before they were using focus groups and buzz words to decide some things in production, now they use them to make everything. it's the corporatization of storytelling. when that happens, then the moral of the story is also up for sale. so we get that luke's character arc, brought to you by WEF and klaus the schwab, now culminates in cukoldry.
@@basteagui literally didnt read any of that - holy shit calm down keyboard man
@@StephenStine it's your loss nit wit. that was a free lesson right there but you can't lead the mule to water and have it drink. still others might benefit so no big loss.
@@basteagui literally no one asked
Star Wars and marvel is where shitty writers go to have a career because they could get hired elsewhere
So stupid her swinging the saber behind her back, makes zero sense, and it's so sloooow, she's so bad at that.
It's like the spin move by the kid in BOBF, just put in there to look cool, and ends up looking stupid.
@@gator7082 Good grief, I actually LOL'd when that happened, unbelievable levels of cringy stupidity. And those kids on their colorful mopeds were supposed to be "the tough gang" everyone was afraid of (eyes rolling out of my head).
"physically fit"
Lmao tell that to Porkins in the first movie lmao
Disneys hatred of Lucas is proving more and more how much of a genius Lucas truly is
Yeah 40 years ago. The movies he made after that were so bad I question how much involvement he actually had in his early good stuff.
@@jasonmoyerNonsense. He Is A Legend.
@@vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 He was brilliant when he was young and butting heads with the studio system. IMO, he should have directed some indie films or something before doing the prequels, because I suspect that large gap without directing anything (he didn't make any movies between 1977 and 1999) was a big reason the prequels are so awful. The theatrical cuts of THX, Graffitti, and Star Wars are amazing and among my favorite films, but he either should have stopped directing entirely or worked his way back into it,
White males spend generations building up a property to billions in value, then pass it on to women who run it into the ground. Only an heir who does not need it is fit to inherit wealth.
he's a lucky bum who's accredited with way too much design and story he didn't create himself. his real 'creative' strength is cobbling shit togeter. he is, however, a business/marketing genius.
2:25 Vader couldn’t just park his Star destroyer over the rebel base on Hoth because it had a shield. That’s why they had to do ground attacks to take out the shields. They had control over Jedha city so shields weren’t a problem and they were mining the city for Kyber crystals so probably having a huge ship there would be really helpful as a base of operations.
It is an energy shield. They stop energy weapons. That is how the walkers were able to get in to begin with. Physical things just walk through them. ( As shown in The Phantom Menace.) Prior to Disney, there was material which stated that Star Destroyers could not operate in atmosphere.
In the Gundam universe ships that size can't enter gravity wells due to gravity turning them into an astroid strike onto the planet and since in the Gundam universe capital ship thrusters are open ended nuclear reactors even if they have enough thrust to counter gravity they would irradiate the planet. Till the Disney films many assumed Star Wars had the same limitations for capital ships.
@@RandomAmerican3000 The Rebels on Hoth had an ion cannon which could disable Star Destroyers. In orbit that's a temporary inconvenience, but if they were in hovering near the surface the ship would crash into the ground.
@@RandomAmerican3000 Yeah I don't remember star destroyers doing much walking mate.
@@DarthFolo Are you really that thick? It's not about walking, it's about shields not stopping physical objects.
Finally, a good explanation as to why the technology "looked" less advanced in the era after the prequals.
The design of the prequels is very underrated. The gradual transition from the Republic age of craft, uniforms and the Droid army to the militaristic Empire era was well thought-out, better than anything from the Disney era
Something the Sequels greatly missed was politics, in universe ones. The OT didn't need them as it was a simple set up, evil Empire rules whole galaxy, Rebels fight back, pretty basic. The Prequels did politics well, sure it was confusing and happened a little much, but that's the point, the Senate scenes show just enough o convey what's going on, the ineffectiveness and corruption in the Republic, we then see enough of the political machinations of both sides setting up and ending the Clone Wars, and Palpatine's rise to power. Meanwhile the Sequels keep it small and focused on an era the desperately needed a look at the wider galaxy, and random shit just happens, EP 7 the New Republic is in power, BOOM, capital destroyed, EP 8 picks up immediately after and somehow the First Order controls the whole galaxy, so much that NO ONE comes to the aid of the Resistance on Crait, then we skip 1 year later to EP 9 and the Resistance if it ever gained much more strength has boringly been reduced tot he Falcon, Tantive 4, and a small bunch of random fighters, yet somehow in just a few hours during the Battle of Exogol Lando shows up with a big ass fleet. Like I said, random political shit just happens, where the hell were all these ships in that 1 year time skip, why is it only NOW in EP 9 that they showed up, and how did it happen so quickly, the Sequels make no fucking sense. The Prequels show enough to let you understand the situation, even as a little kid I could figure it out. The OT showed just enough, EP 4 the Rebels have a base and a bunch of fighters, Ep 5 they have a couple transports and a small fleet at the end, in EP 6 we see they've now got capital ships able to duke it out with fucking Star Destroyers, We see the Rebellion only growing just from the movies alone. While the Sequels need extra media just to explain even the most basic shit. That is bad world building, and they ignore even the most basic story telling rules, even shit so basic ANYONE could do it better, PLANNING, the lacked planning, beginning, middle, end. Shit just randomly happens or get nonsensically rushed.
The prequels started the downward slide.
They dont need to make stories with rich characters, interesting dialouge, high stakes stories or anything else.
All they need to do is to roll out the old star wars designs and show them to the fanboys and they love it. The only way they would say it was kinda bad is if the designs were still images. As long as they move about and shoot they are happy and give the show high praise.
That’s not very fair, you’re saying that the REAL Star Wars fans will accept bread and circuses. I’m a monster star wars fan and I’m intelligent enough to see EVERY SINGLE bit of Disney Star Wars is pure SHITE
I watched The Return of the Jedi in theatres (a double feature with the Neverending Story!) and bought the novels that kept the universe alive until the prequels. Things like the Thrawn Trilogy were the best written stories of any Star Wars stories IMHO. I stayed current through the Yuzzan Vong series, which I thought as the bookend of my intrest. Disney buying the IP of Lucasfilms meant they now owned the series that I had copies of. Disney then said what I had invested in was pure shyte, and in no way cannon. Ditto for previous games and the lore for them. It was a turd sandwich they handed me, and told me to eat it and be happy there was going to be a new better timeline. Well, I did watch The Force Awakens. That movie was underwhelming for me, and killing off Han was a very poorly written echo of Mara Jade's death. Rey did not appeal as a character, as she was a Mary Sue, Someone who was good because the plot demanded it, not because the character earned it. So, that was it. I stopped watching Star Wars, and Disney content in general.
What they have done is like having your home sold to a new landlord (disney) who kidnaps and molests your sister (Star Wars) where you can hear what is going on through the walls(Disney leaks), then they demand money to see her on a livestream being forced to do unplesant things (the new content). If that thought disgusts you, then congradulations, you have more heart than Kathleen Kennedy does.
That battle scene from solo looks legit warhammer 40k
The snow speeder was a civilian ship around the prequels that was used for various jobs. Without the towable used on the AT-AT's that would free up space in the back seat. But if it was used to haul shit it wouldn't need a backseat. And also wouldn't have guns mounted on it.
Edit:(towcable*)
Wait... your town doesn't have guns on it's garbage trucks?
@@Sal-T I find it surprising
Hey! No making fun of Mr. Kim. He gave up his Convenience store to be a X-Wing pilot.
That one rather boggled me as I watched mr Kim before this, and here he was speaking perfect english :)
you know people don't watch the sponcered segments when the most replayed part is the end of the sponcer
Robot head thank you for making more Star Wars videos. I love to hear you talk about the different ships, it is enjoyable to say the least
It's important you keep these kind of videos coming, Robot Head - giving a voice to the people who share your opinion. Thank you for your service in an effort to get rid of low quality.
We still have a long way to go, but you are the spearhead of this community.
Currently trying to figure out a way to say that this is like watching someone beat a dead horse without sounding like a heartless asshole who wants to see the dead horse get beat, quite hard but its completely deserved. Keep calling out disney robot, we need more people to realize the disney empire needs to collapse for the sake of the things they hold hostage that we love
Why are they so determined to Sh*t on previous content created in successful IPs rather than use and build on the good ideas??
Disney can't get embarrassed, that would require them to have self-respect.
Thank you for pointing this out. Every time I say that Disney Star wars is bad I get backlash from people claiming I just don't understand Disney's vision and I wonder if they even understand what they are defending and why. It's not just poor acting/writing. Its a genuine drop in quality of set design and universe lore. I bet everyone that worked on og trilogy and the prequels facepalms when they see the designs they worked so hard on being used in ways that are impossible.
The acting is actually pretty good - the writing isn't as great. Set design is also good. There's plenty to complain about, but make sure to actually complain about things that are, you know, actually bad, not things that are genuinely pretty good.
@@somewords5495 No, the acting is not good. Go re-watch "somehow Palpatine has returned" and tell me that is good acting. Or what about "I bypassed the compressor."
Also the sets are just a TV screen behind the actors. It may look believable but there is none of the hours of painstaking work that industrial light and magic put into making things look like actual ships.
finally, what I was specifically calling out was that they don't even understand the propulsion of the ship they are using and have it do impossible things like hovering. You can have the prettiest model ship you like, but if you don't even know how it flies it is still shoddy work.
You could probably cut the whole Fortress Inquisitorius part of the story out and the story doesn't really change. Just have Reva throw a tracking device thing on the ship Obi and Leia escape on at that mining town, like Obi once did to Jango, and you're good.
There's a fan edit of the show into a movie which does exactly that.
10:27 "is storyboarding a thing of the past?" yes, sadly, storyboarding stopped being an thing, when Lucasfilm sold out to disney and basically died standing.
I was fine with the Star Destroyer being in low orbit in Rogue One as it wasn’t a battle scenario but not in TLJ due to the reasons stated in the video as they could’ve simply bombarded the blast door from orbit as it had no shield.
This also highlights to robust battle tactics of the Hoth battle. Why couldn’t the base be blasted from orbit? Shielding explained within the movie with scripted lines. Why couldn’t the destroyer just deploy troops from low orbit on top of the base? The Rebel base v-150 planet defender turret depicted on screen and not within an additional companion book. Why were AT-ATs deployed? Due to their immense firepower, defence and all-terrain capabilities.
The battle of Crait (don’t care for spelling) had none of these and thus collapses under any scrutiny.
Imperator class Star destroyers can't enter the atmosphere.
@@redman1249 didn’t know that nor have I done much research into it. Can you explain how that works? I’d love to know more. Is it constructed in space or on the ground? Is it’s mass too large to escape atmosphere once entered or something else I’m missing?
@@redman1249 didn’t know that nor have I done much research into it. Can you explain how that works? I’d love to know more. Is it constructed in space or on the ground? Is it’s mass too large to escape atmosphere once entered or something else I’m missing?
@@redman1249 Yes they can
@@redman1249 : Rogue One literally shows an Imperial class hovering in atmosphere. Further, the idea that they couldn't was an EU thing that I never saw justified.
Hard to believe Disney tried to shit something worse out than Book of Boba Fett. Gotta give them credit for trying to get under such a low bar. Fcking amazing
Even the grand inquisitor can’t die as he is in rebels
Robot, this has to be your best video yet. The humor had me laughing, but the truth hurts. I miss the star wars that I grew up with.
It’s still there, in fact go read the dark horse stuff like legacy, dark empire and crimson empire. Stuff the Disney shite
I love watching you're modern star wars rants.
One complaint on the deal with Star Destroyers landing, and also sorta this whole video, firstly, ISDs have always, always been able to enter orbit. I mean, hell, Tarkin landed his ISD on a crown of protestors in an comic pre-Disney. It's just implied they don't do that commonly because it'd be really hard for them to get up from the ground. Secondly, the Snowspeeders were ALWAYS implied and outright stated to be uparmored, upgunned and repurposed cargo haulers that the Rebels repurposed because they had nothing better. That really defuses the first few minutes and complaints, but the rest I do totally agree with.
I'll never get tired of the way Baby Leia runs. It's so cute and hilarious!
I was so disgusted by the snowspeeder fight scene, never before have I seen such horrible cgi in a starwars film
Absolutely yes, it’s utter shite
I thought the biker gang's scenes in Boba Fett to be rock bottom. They could do them in claymation and be better.
Imagine attacking the weight of the pilots as unrealistic and completely forgetting that there was a pilot named _fucking porkins_ in episode 4.
12:54 - Can't breath cause I'm laughing so hard
I would be charitable and say "This is all explained on Wookipedia", but the time for charity is long gone by this point.
I love this channel. Very rarely are videos so well edited and so on point with writing, soundbites etc.
Thanks a lot for the work and passion you're putting into this, Mr. Head! Dankeschön!
Greetings from Germany :)
Mate...your in-depth analysis of this show is pure gold! It also makes one realise how deeply, deeply flawed and ridiculously unprofessional everything about this show is, from A-Z. Why did McGregor sign up for and co-produce this?!
he signed up for the scrapped movie then agreed to do the show based on the original scripts. then those scripts were scrapped and replaced with the newer, crappier scripts. the budgets were cut and incompetent people hired for the final product. I feel sorry for Ewan.
@@jaztermareal I didn't know that. Thanks for the insight. Yeah, I feel sorry for him, too...
I think he was more interested in being Obi-wan again, and fighting with Hayden again on screen rather than being especially concerned with the particulars of the show.
@@myujokt733 But in 2016 he said he's done with Star Wars and never going back.
14:30 and now they can claim that’s where Vader got the idea in episode 4 to put a tracker on the ship… FUCK DISNEY!!!
few years ago i had a 87 starion! sold it but it made me happy seeing it mentioned! such a dope car
2:46 the star destroyer just parking on everything was hilarious
But it made a good point. If it could do that, then you would use that tactic everywhere as it would be very effective (and over powered) - which is why they didn't. It's like the "Holdo manoeuvre", if you could destroy fleets by jumping in to hyperspace at them, you would do it all the time, including at the death star in ep4, which is what makes it so stupid. This is why writers have to be careful when they introduce new abilities or tactics.
@@fuzzblightyear145 I mean, you can't actually blame Disney for having a capital ship in operating in atmosphere. A venator literally drops out of hyperspace in atmosphere in the very first episode of the Clone Wars. There's no way George Lucas wasn't at least somewhat involved in writing the first episode of his new Star Wars show.
Haha "Rey..."Crash!😂
Imma push back a bit on that Pilot bit at the beginning for 3 reasons. 1) Paul Sun-Hyung Lee is a Canadian national treasure and starwars nut and it's amazing to see him as a Republic Pilot and I will not excuse it for any reason. 2) Porkins was in episode 4 so we have a 40 year precedence of fat pilots in the Rebel alliance. 3) X-wings are NOT equivalent to the forces exerted on pilots in jet fighters, they have both etheric rudders and inertial dampeners which negate the forces of inertia meaning pilots experience either extremely low, or negligible shifts in momentum during maneuvers and do not experience the blood pressure issues modern pilots do.
The in-universe science makes this argument invalid, and that's really the only thing that matters.
Star Wars was better witch George Lucas he at least cared about his creation unlike the Company he sold it to.
*cough* Disney *cough*
Jar Jar sucked, but at least we got 9 layers of Gungan lore and world building that helped make sense of his suckdom and make it feel real.
So... A "speeder" hauls sewage? .... Does that mean a "hauler" or "tanker" is designed to race/go fast?
A tiny speeder, built for speed and barely big enough to accommodate two people, is somehow is supposed to haul sewage. Zero thought was put into that. In real life, semi trucks haul sewage with huge tank trailers. But, by this show's logic, it would make more sense to have a friggen ferrari haul that load.
The hoth battle still makes me N U T when I see it even today and seeing arguably the coolest atmospheric ship in star wars with one of the coolest forms and creative weapons in the tripping line turned into a plot divice makes me want to die
And people wonder why I’m so dead inside… it’s because my childhood is methodically being turned into shit and/ or being shit on.
Excellent into hilarious as usual!
LOL , "angry fashionista"... damn, you captured my feelings in the least number of words
I love the fact they said they had a main base that had no defenses because noone would be stupid enough to atk it... um...
That's just what great writing looks like.
@@desmondd1984 almost as great as the part the 1 leader said I won't help u because of my late wife, so I'll help u with whatever u need
Inquisitorious Titanicus.
Right, surely the reason no-one would be stupid enough to attack it is because it's got defences up the wazoo.
@@yup486 defenses, nah those r clearly for wusses. U can't have the antagonist look like wusses clearly...
The level of contempt KK has for the people who gave her a career is Sith-like. “Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate.Hate leads to suffering.”
Amazing how Reva can continuously deflect two linked big anti-material blast cannons shots just in front of her...
Having we seen vehicle shots being deflected before?
11:09 the sad part being that it should have been easier post-production for the special effects team to line up the blaster bolts with Reeva's blocks than for the actor to "guess" at what and where she should be blocking