It's not just incompetence and stupidity, it's more than not understanding Star Wars on a fundamental level, it goes past an agenda and humiliation, it's contempt and malice. I hope Disney burns for what they have done to Star Wars. Unforgivable.
"Contempt and malice"? Sorry, but that suggests a level of planning and forethought that I do not believe Disney (collectively) is capable of. The unholy abomination that is the Sequel trilogy to me shows mostly stupidity, indifference and a total absence of integrity. That's the scary thing about it.
Red Leader: OK, listen up folks. The Death Star will be in range in 15 minutes. I need a volunteer to point his X-Wing at the surface, hit your lightspeed drive, and punch right through to the reactor. Red 6: I'll do it, boss. Red Leader: You sure, Porkins? Red 6: I'm probably gonna just shot down in the first 2 minutes of the battle anyway. Tell em to hang a medal on my grave. Red Leader: May the Force be with you, son. Red 6: FOR THE REPUBLIC!
A Stormtrooper being Force sensitive and breaking free of his Dark Side programming would’ve been such a compelling story. His story of being taken as a child and indoctrinated is a direct parallel to the Jedi. Have him be wary of Luke because Finn fears the Jedi are no better than the First Order. THAT is how you do a “deconstruction”. Could’ve been such a moment to have him embrace the Force and fight for good. But nah, we needed the Rey Show.
Rey would have worked as an orphan being looked after by Han Solo. The first order winning in force awakens and Kylo killing Solo would made her have vested interest in taking down the first order. It would have also lead to an interesting follow up movie were Finn, a former first order troop, and Rey, who's father was killed by the first order, set aside their differences and learn to work together as a team to take down the first order, which they would have done in the 3rd movie.
Rey joining Kylo would have made the story interesting too. And if they made you sympathize somewhat with the empire rather than just the, "we are evil just because." If the underdog less powerful, but force sensitive storm trooper had to take on naturally talented dark side sith, would have made a far better show.
Intriguing? Fascinating? The stormtrooper janitor who completely switches sides in 5 minutes and then acts like a clown for the rest of the movie? He was already ruined in the first movie.
@@darrengordon-hill Windu wasn't token. His character does alot of kickass things throughout the clone wars; he's the reason General Grevious went from being almost unstoppable to coughing and being weaker for Kenobi in ep III. His purple lightsaber was a request from Jackson to Lucas.
@@marcusblackwell2372 They dropped the ball in season 3 for Mando though, which means they could not stop Kathleen Kennedy from interfering and injecting her poison. Mando in a way is a mirror for the so-called sequels, started off looking promising before rapidly going downhill. Mando's decline was not nearly as bad as what came in the wake of LAST JEDI though.
I love that to this day there's no consensus on which is worse between the two. They're both awful in entirely different ways. It's like, what's more devastating? Actively seeing something get broken or watching its mangled form writhe on the ground?
Imagine putting all your chips on one legacy actor to carry the future of your franchise, and doing literally nothing to course correct when she dies a year before release.
According to the Force Awakens official poster: Kylo --> badass Rey --> newly appointed keeper of balance with the force Finn --> young badass After watching films: Kylo --> could be beaten by jar jar binks Rey --> granted lore level strength because woman Finn --> occasionally yells
@@x_.suzaku._x mate, they made A New Hope with a different cast, but they shouldn't do that in Star Wars, there's no purpose for doing that. Back to the Future could pull that trick in 3 movies, but it had a purpose doing it that way. Disney could easily tell a new story with new characters following the end of the empire or going to the old republic stories.
The Force Awakens was arriving to the bbq, you see the grill working and a cooler full of beer. The next two films we find out they were cooking mushroom burgers on gluten-free buns and the beer is non alcoholic.@@x_.suzaku._x
I finally watched the final Bond film the other day and it really got me down. The last decade or so has seen the utter destruction of every property I loved growing up, Star Wars, Star Trek, James Bond, The Matrix, The Simpsons, Futurama, The Lord of the Rings... Even small things which had an impact on me developmentally, like Artemis Fowl, got shit on. I genuinely think nothing is safe.
Yeah. It's why I've just stopped watching. I let too many of my favorites get butchered for the sake of whatever excuse Hollywood has to ruin what was once great - although it mostly seems to be money and nostalgia peppered with the modern ideologies forced into it. Ugh. It's going to take several years to get to the next step where originality and boldness take the lead.
@@613harbinger316 I've stopped watching too. I only watched No Time to Die because my girlfriend insisted we finish the series, which we binged together over the last few months. I would have been happy to never watch it. I too hope this nonsense ends soon.
It's such a shame what they did to him. He was the only character with an actually interesting backstory and tons of potential. Rey would have worked better as a sidekick or future villain. Finn was the only one versatile enough to make an interesting main lead. I'm so glad I didn't watch the third film after how horrible the second was.
Single best thing for Rey would have been her turning to the dark side in the second film and partners with Kylo Ren to destroy and form a new empire. But oh-no, then Mary Sue wouldn’t have been the best Jedi EVER (without any work).
Plot twist: the real reason they shrunk him on the Chinese poster was because the makers knew it would be more proportional to his future character role
lol honestly though I do wonder if they did what they did to him in the second movie onwards because of the chinese money they wanted to get their hands on.
Man the trailer for TFA was epic. I remember the excitement we all felt when that teaser dropped. The speculation over who Kylo was, and where the OG trio were at. All the theories that were making the rounds. We were all so full of wonder and hope for the future. There was so much potential, and then we saw the movies...
@sefik2809 "It's pretty hard to do anything bigger or better than Star Wars" So why is he so against "Disney Plus"?? HE SAID "Ain't gonna Disney Plus me". HE is suggesting it's BENEATH HIM. So I ASKED Who is he to say he's better than a thing YOU AGREE "It doesn't get bigger or better than"??? And your bitch response is "I'm jealous"??? OF WHAT??? Being in The Woman King or whatever Clone Tyrone is???? HE'S NO SIDNEY POITIER, my god, the losers y'all cape for!!! Seek Jesus.
Nah it's fair, that kind of thing just isn't bad in a movie like the Goonies because that sort of thing fits well enough into what that movie was supposed to be. The same kind of silliness that made the Goonies as enjoyable as it was is just bad writing if you try to shove it into Star Wars. I mean, to use a slightly more extreme example, imagine if suddenly Disney decided that grey jedi use cartoon powers like Bugs Bunny. It's not that random, over-the-top chaotic nonsense is bad writing, it's great if you're making a Looney Toons film. It's going to be bad writing if you try to shoehorn it into a Star Wars movie, though.
*Darth Vader:* _"It's their time....their time, up there. Down here, it's our time. It's _*_OUR_*_ time, down here. Join me and we can rule the galaxy as father and son!"_
It hurts because of what it could have been, it was so close at the beginning to being something great. Then it sort of just...didn't. So now we are left with an empty feeling of disappointment and a longing for what we were so close to receiving.
i cant watch EPVII without flying into rage, over the wasted potential the film and its characters had. i mean, Stormtrooper turned rbel turned Jedi?, that would had been awesome. but nope, we get "Rey Skywalker"...... FRAK YOU LUCASARTS, FRAK YOU!!!
And the lesson to take away from all this? Don't let dueling directors handle one story line over three installments. Especially hacks like Rian Johnson and the other guy. =9[.]9=
I'll never understand TLJ's "Finn is a coward" arc when standing up to a dark side force-user when you're just some normal guy in a lightsaber battle is one of the bravest things I've seen anyone do in this whole franchise
And even worse, when he wanted to sacrifice himself in the end this was stopped by a crazy Rose ... still want to see extra scenes where Finn drags her back to the Rebel base over the whole distance while the First Order is just waiting because they are as confused about what just happened as everybody else ...
That was his arc during TFA, he starts the movie by running away and later on he's so scared he leaves his friends, that's when he gains courage and picks up the lightsaber. It's like Rian didn't watch the movie he was making a sequel to.
Yeah, Finn had so much potential.. for oh.. the first 10, 20 minutes or so. As did Poe, then Rey happened. It's like my missus has said so many times, they should have cut Rey out entirely and give the appropriate parts to Finn and Poe respectively. Scenes like where Rey flies the Falcon like she was born in it, where Solo takes to her as his long lost child would have made perfect sense if it had been Poe, so much like Han once was, the son he wanted instead of the spoiled brat he got. And Finn, struggling with his new life of overcoming his old as a storm trooper, child solider, now seeking out Luke, learning about the Force, and instead of revelling in killing his former soldiers he sets out, full of compassion, to free them from their conditioning.
I liked the introduction to Rey as a scavenger for parts from old empire ships and machines. If they had allowed her to develop slowly, almost like a second Jedi alongside Finn, then they could have potentially contrasted two different approaches: Finn as perhaps a bit too eager and reckless due to having been a storm trooper and desperate to, as you suggest, free other storm troopers from their conditioning; and Rey as the slow and calm learner which would have fitted in with her patient diligence of living life alone.
@@Warstub Yes, slower pace for Rey. Make her more gifted in the force and agile but recognize Fin's training as a warrior from a young age. In the second move explore and differentiate their motivations Fin wanting to help others and sees the complexity of the Empire. Rey wanting to find her parents and hates the empire. They seek out Luke but he doesn't want to help because of Ren. They continue to train each other and try to learn what little bit they can from Luke. Then Luke truely rejects them Fin's for his desire for love and emotions. Rey for lack of restraint for seeking power. Ends with Fin going off to save/free storm troopers and Rey rejoining the rebels to destroy the empire. Third movie many years later. Fin has become a great leader and general liberating other solders. Rey has gained power but is frustrated by the lack of success of the rest of the resistance and decides to go it alone. In the process, Leia dies this awakens Luke to how far Rey has gone and motivates him to take action. He seeks Fin's help. In the climax Rey succeeds in killing Snook and taking his power, she also kills Luke. Just prior Ren force communes with Luke and in his death sees the light. He force pushes Rey off screen before she can kill Fin. Confused, Ren retreats. This leaves Fin alone in the seat of power. The aftermath is Fin bringing back the republic. Rey and Ren are in hiding in separate sectors, but for now the force is balanced with one as the new Sith lord and the other as a reformed Jedi both outcasts. The last images are of Rey giving birth to Ren's? twins. The Skywalker/Solo line continues...
@@RichMMediaAll I'm saying is that competent writers can make any character good. And unique how? He was already unique as an ex-stormtrooper. He didn't need to become a jedi to be unique. In fact I'd say he had a great setup to being a great character at the end of Ep.7. Ep. 8 destroyed that setup, and because of that, Ep. 9 didn't know what to do with him.
Not sure ep9 was incompetence, I think it was trying hard to fix something that just couldn't be fixed. Ep8 ruined the trilogy beyond repair, and from that point forward, ep9 was doomed no matter what direction it tried to go. (Don't get me wrong, ep9 is hot garbage)
@@mariobrito427 The big flaw of the trilogy as a whole was that they didn't have a direction they mapped out in advance and then stuck to. An entire trilogy that was "homage" or "deconstruction" could feasibly have worked...but you can't go from one to the other, then have a third movie that's very obviously emergency damage control and expect to tell a coherent story.
@@paulgibbon5991 I agree, but I think it's important to specify names here. JJ Abrams is a director known for long (often multi-movie) narratives full of twists and turns - things he's clearly starting to do in TFA. I firmly believe he had a plan going in. Issues started when Kennedy decided "hey this sounds like a good time to replace him with my Favourite Little Best Boy(TM) Rian Johnson!" This isn't to claim JJ had no fault here - he did, he decided to stick to his 'twists and turns' MO even after it was clear that wasn't going to work anymore, and thus tried to cram them all into one, horrible movie - but I think it's important to identify the sources of the problem. And they all seem to link back to Kennedy and her ego.
This, sadly. Finn's character was ruined as soon as he crashed on not-Tatooine. He goes from being the badass warrior breaking free from his chains to... the comic relief drinking out of animal troughs and pathetically simping after the first girl he met so hard Han had to tell him to knock it off. Which wasn't even the only time Han caught second hand cringe from Finn in TFA. Remember when Phasma was forced to deactivate the shields? Finn gets carried away acting macho after Phasma has already been subdued, and Han has to pull another "OK kid, that's enough making a fool out of yourself." Because after Finn's amazing introduction with Poe, JJ turned him into the bumbling comic relief. From super soldier to silly janitor! FFS, people just refuse to admit, after all these years, that TFA was a mistake as well. The hypegoggles and hopium were too strong for people to see the writing on the wall, but it was all there.
You forgot Kyle Katarn, star of the 'Dark Forces' video games, who received training at the Imperial Academy- including marching in stormtrooper armor.
@@miqvPL Agreed. Tony Gilroy is a true creative and a person of vision. He insisted on (and got) almost full creative control over _Andor,_ and the result is a near masterpiece.
@jmurray1110 Ok. I have watched Clone Wars. So unfortunately i have watched a Disney Starwars. I stand corrected. The ending of that series was what actually turned me off Disneywars. I was expecting a great climax to explain what pushed Anikin further Dark Side. Not the kindergarten, " no, your wrong " explanation about what side is the "evil" of the force!
Marcus.... I am so jealous. I WISH I had never watched ANY Disney Star Wars..... but at least I can say, I REFUSED to watch Rise of Skywalker (still haven't and won't), Willow show, or the newest Indy movie. Last Jedi broke me.... but what goes around, comes around. Eventually.
LITERALLY everything you just said about Finn is EXACTLY word for word how I felt about what Finn's character arc could have been and the garbage story line he ended up actually getting. 🤦♂️
One of my better decisions, was stopping after The Force Awakens. The clips and critical reviews are more than enough. Kind of like rafting across a river of shit and not getting any on you.
Smart move. I actually avoided spoilers and paid money at a theater to watch The Last Jedi. It is one of two movies I should have walked out on and asked for my money back. But I was just like Star Wars fans now. I hung on until the bitter end believing they would turn it around. I was wrong. I was so wrong.
So many people are still in denial about TFA being so terrible half the movie goers never went to theatres for 8 and 9. Luke showing up gave some people hope at the end. See what they did with that hope...
good on you. the only reason they keep making this garbage is so many people, even after hearing a hundred bad reviews, still go and watch the crap anyway and pay for the privilege. it blew my mind how many people still went to see indiana jones when the negative reviews were given out a whole month in advance!!?
I was so excited with the TFA trailer. I'm a 501st costumer and was on the TFA red carpet at Leicester Square, in my Sandtrooper armour. Such a great night. Phasma looked so badass, yet she was one of the most under-used and wasted characters in the film. The fact that Han, Luke and Leia didn't have some scenes together was Kennedy twisting her spiteful knife. Such a let-down, the whole thing has been a disaster - Disney has ruined Star Wars for me. After seeing TFA I started building a TFA TIE fighter costume and it's still not finished - my heart is just no longer in it.
I'm a Mando costumer myself. I was with Star Wars since 1977(7 years old) and I absolutely hate the new movies! The Mandalorian is good because of the exploration of Mando culture. But the last three movies are the lazy productions of lazy people. And it's not the actors fault either.
The Last Jedi quite frankly felt, forced. I had originally built high hopes for the film but I found my self watching a familiar story told with less creativity and or fun. The film makes me sick for having tarnished our loved characters and replacing them with knock off's, lol. I try not to include these films although I can't set them aside completely so I look forward to newer projects leading Disney to try and bury and correct these films while at the same time going farther then needed. What a mess. As always I enjoyed the video Robot Head, can't wait to see your insight on Asoka. I suppose will see how that goes.
Insane? Yes, but on the other side the perfect ending for this trilogy. Thanks to TLJ all chances of a somewhat cohesive trilogy were gone (which is the one thing i will give the prequels). So just embrace the madness. Nothing makes sense, Palpatine is somehow back (i love Poe's line, it's really honest from J.J. to admit that we won't get more than tha), and we get a gigantic end fight out of nothing. If i haven't read the leaks before i might have been pissed, but so i was enjoying the movie in the cinema because i knew what nonsense was coming ...
I remember sitting in the theater for FA when I was 10, watching the part where Poe and Finn are in the Tie fighter and thinking "This is awesome, these characters are awesome, I'm going to love this movie!" And then Rey was introduced and never left. Boy was I wrong, and very dissapointed.
Boyega went from heroic stormtrooper with potential who dabbles in lightsaber combat, to water toy trauma patient, to an Easy Button that just screams _"REY!"_
@@BungieStudios I've never heard anyone talk about how it killed jj Abrams career, he was a fairly big name until then. at least the last jedi took a few swings for the fences, ROS was a panicked reaction to it, and it really shows. unwatchable
During the first half of The Force Awakens I was interested in two characters: - Finn, as a Stormtrooper creating a complete new angle in Star wars, "humanizing" them, giving them a backstory maybe he could convince more to switch sides etc and himself becoming a Jedi or Leader. - Husk, seeming being treated as an Equal to a rather weak Kylo Ren. There was an interesting tension and power play between them, both seconds below Snoke. He also had lots of potential, maybe overthrowing the force users some how or being the reason Kylo might turn to the light side or, or or.... but what gives - both characters become idiotic, pathetic comic relief characters, their potential utterly butchered before they was even a chance. Shame.
Evil can never create, and it certainly hates all that is good and green on this earth. In this case, these evils were disguised as "subverting expectations". In a sense, they "dislike" anything that is good because it's too cliche. The way I see it, the current Hollywood (especially Lucasfilm/Disney) mantra is, "If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is".
1:45 The dumbest thing about that fight is that apparently the speeders aren't even armed... presumably because someone realised "Err, why didn't they do anything other than drifting around a bit?" "No idea, throw an explanation into the expanded universe, either the novelisation or reference book..."
So... what was their plan, then? This makes it even more insane. "P{rivate, you see those heavily armoured walkers and their giant fuckoff cannon thing? Let's drive a bunch of unarmed speeders at them." - "Sir, what are the speeders going to do when they get there?" "Honestly, no clue. Probably all our men will just get shot because they've no method of defending themselves, let alone anything that could damage the things we're sending them at."
If only they had developed Finn to leaning towards the light side because of what he's seen and Rey going to the dark because of her lack of direction and anger over her situation. That would have created a great story arc to cover over a few films.
Heartbreaking, yes, but it makes perfect sense. This is how Disney executives think: "Another installment in one of the greatest franchises of all time? That's gonna need a lot of money. And I mean, a LOT of money. We can't be too risky here... because this is a lot of money. Besides, most people are gonna see this movie anyway... because it leeches off the success of its predecessors. Hell, we don't even need to try that hard. Just pump out another generic, obscenely expensive blockbuster and call it a day."
Barbie actually had to TRY... because most people were gonna assume it's a joke. George Lucas already did the heavy lifting to build up the Star Wars universe. It's a household name. So really, Disney can just pump out another generic Star Wars movie and most people are gonna see it. Profit!
As a lifelong star wars fan who was born in the early 70's and had all the toys growing up and Atari star wars games and all things star wars related I honestly don't remember the new trilogy and what they're about,I can't even remember the names of the movies and what order they run,I saw each only once and eradicated them from my mind.........😢
When I saw him I really thought there was hope. I loved him in Attack the Block and thought the second film was going to go in an interesting direction but it all so badly fell apart. In the words of Greta "How dare you. You have stolen my dreams, and my childhood"
You should see a movie called Breaking. John Boyega is amazing in it! :) The sad thing, though, is that if you do see that movie, you'll see how the Star Wars Sequels completely wasted his acting talent.
The Goonies holds up as a fun movie. It's not some screed or deconstruction, it's still a fun movie to watch. Fun is bad now, according to the sh*twits.
I almost feel sorry for the rise of Skywalker. The main reason it’s terrible is it was supposed to be the continuation of the Last Jedi and well you’re supposed to finish a story set up in a movie where the story is complete nonsense and broken to the point it shattered an entire franchise, you really don’t have a fighting chance. It’s like trying to restore the data on a hard drive that was shattered into a million pieces. That data is gone and you aren’t going to recover.
I remember back when John Boyega was announced to play Fin, I was excited. I'd seen him in a few things and knew he had the potential to go far. Turned out to be the most wasted talent outside of the original cast.
The other thing about the " way finder" is that it pointed a path through a nebula or whatever. Since the planet they were looking for isn't in the nebula, they could have just gone around it. You can do that in space.
It’s a shame to see how Disney mishandled Star Wars. It would’ve been exciting to see Finn (Stormtrooper to Jedi) and Rey (orphan to Sith) clash on the big screen in a proper trilogy.
I would hold out hope for a recovery, but we're living in the worst timeline. My beloved Star Wars is dead. Not only that, it was murdered and the corpse was paraded naked around town.
The concept of a stormtrooper becoming a jedi would be so cool. I really thought that this trilogy was setting up for two protagonists with Finn and Rey, but I guess not even his race can protect him from KK's self insert being the entire focus of the series.
1:44 I remember pointing that out years ago. The whole Battle of Crait from start to finish is a case study in bad writing. Not one shot in that scene made any narrative or logical sense.
OK I watch every Robot Head video but this has to be up there with one of the best!!! Can we please show it to John Boyega, I think he will het a kick out of it! Great video my friend!
The fact they did Finn character so wrong just baffles me man. I still remember the hype around him. Dude was a turned storm trooper. Than you see him welding a lightsaber. Had ppl thinking we were gonna get the second coming of mace windu. The hype was real af. Just to see Disney destroy his character. And not only do that, but turn him into a damn side character of a joke smh. I mean shit him and Rey even had a romance brewing from the 7th film that all go scrapped. Could y’all imagine if we would of gotten 2 lightsaber users in Finn and Rey????
They really did John Boyega dirty. On so many levels. John Boyega is a next generational talent that could have done so much for the film series, but by Episode 9 he was just an afterthought. If anyone wants to see his true range, check him out in "They Cloned Tyrone". I didn't even recognize him at first.
The bait and swap of Finn not being the next jedi was so fucking annoying. He was perfect for the next protaganist. They could have built his back story to be dark and really interesting. He would have to really fight to be in light side, since he started in the dark side and that's all he really knew, even if he felt it was wrong. But no. They rush him to the sideline and completely shit on him. What a waste. And looking at it again, why is everyone's acting so over the top? With the weird faces and the yelling and the cartoony shit? When you watch the original trilogy, or even the sequal trilogy. The actors were pretty grounded in how they acted. They talked calm and like normal people. I haven't watched any of the Disney films since The Last Jedi release, so I never really thought about it, but even just the way the acting was done was so out of field of Star Wars. I guess maybe it was Disneyfied? But man, it's just so off putting once i noticed.
I believe that the same group of people who said they received no plans from Abrams said they 'didn't have any books to adapt' for any of the movies at all, so I'd take that statement with a _planet's_ worth of salt.
I'm fairly certain the plan was to shit all over Star Wars fans so I believe they succeeded. There is no way in hell you can take Star Wars and unintentionally fuck it up the ass like they did.
I definitely believe that Abrams had a plan. Ep 9 felt like 2 movies stuffed into one. I can see how Rian Johnson's self described "scrapping" of Abrams plot and doing his own thing could have been the primary reason the trilogy failed.
The force awakens really held a lot of promise, as derivative as it was in many aspects. A near perfect springboard to do something great. What a gamble they took by letting Roundhead Hamsterface Johnson play "auteur" and have a subversion fest that wasn't even good apart from imploding the whole franchise. The only way that CF of franchise management paid off was to give us countless delicious episodes by our very own Robot Head.
Nah. TFA was dreck from the get-go. It completely and without preamble or explanation undid everything good about the original Star Wars movies, resurrected the Empire as the First Order, including a ridiculous, ill-conceived mega-weapon, and shat upon the original cast without mercy. The only good thing about TFA, in the end, was the theme music. =9[.]9=
@@Raycheetah And the ending! It was a real cliff-hanger. Or cliff-stander, I guess. But the end scene left everyone (me, anyway) really eager to see what would happen next. However mid, or blah TFA was, it wasn't so bad the next movie couldn't improve things, right? That interest made over half of TLJ's billion gross. And that's what happens to wide-eyed optimists: fastball to the nuts and then step on a rake.
@@Trollificusv2 TLJ was the very last Star Wars media I ever watched. I didn't feel any need to "finish" the Disney trilogy, or watch any of their streaming shows. For me, Star Wars officially ended with ROTJ. ='[.]'=
@@Raycheetah don't watch rise of skywhatever. no review or anything does it justice. it's that stale and pointless and fucking stupid, it really is that much of a deranged CGI fuckfest and canon ruining nightmare. shockingly unbelievable how bad RoS is. I wouldn't watch all those disney shows either. I just don't want any of this crap, make it all go away. for fucks sake. what did we do to deserve this
If it were up to me, I'd make everything after Finn goes unconscious in The Force Awakens a fever dream, where Finn wakes up being taken care of by Luke Skywalker and Rey being taken by Kylo Ren.
Should be obvious. John Boyega should've been the main character, but he's a man. And black at that. Lord knows we can't have THAT for international audiences aka CHINA.
Why in the world did they have Boyega do an American English accent for this role? There are in-universe examples of British accents being associated with the Empire/First Order and he was a Stormtrooper. Did they really think dumb American audiences would think he was a bad guy if he used his real life accent?
A pity Hollywood keeps WASTING HIS TALENTS, and projecting Hollywood execs' own anti-black racism onto China, as seen with his images' diminished sizes in Chinese language 'Star Wars' posters. (The fact he starred in 'Pacific Rim Uprising'- which would never have been made if not for the first movie's popularity in China, and depended on Chinese investors to get made- proves the lie of "Chinese people don't like seeing black people.")
I feel so bad for the writers down at lucasfilm Not the ones that do the shows or movies But the ones stuck trying to fix or at least un-fuck the shitshow of a story via comic books and novels
How can a franchise like Star Wars NOT find and hire the greatest writers in the entire world? Do they not realize how many people in the industry, or even fans, would kill to write Star Wars?
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher I remember enjoying it when I first watched it in theaters,” as a new introduction to the new trilogy, I came out the theater with a bunch of optimism for future movies, because honestly I was hooked on the idea of having a clone/ stormtrooper runaway turned Jedi. And how Rey and Kylo would change over time, (I kinda thought Rey would turn to the dark side and kill kylo, then her and Finn would fight, (I was hyped.) It was also cool the idea of having a black lead character in a Starwars movie, as I didn’t grow up with many. It sucks even more that they removed finn from foreign marketing, and completely sidelined him,
TFA wasn't bad. I remember liking it when I first saw it. Not as much as the originals or even the prequells, but the main reasons I didn't like it as much was because it felt like a rehash of ANH and I hated that killed off Han before the original cast could be reunited. Otherwise I thought it was a good film and hoped that they had something cool planned out for eps 8 and 9. Then I saw eps 8 and 9 and realized they were just making it up as they went along and had no clue what they were doing. But part of the reason eps 8 and 9 were so bad was due to the poor decisions they made for ep 7. So, even though I sort of liked ep 7 when it first came out, I think it's a bad film mainly for that reason.
Jon Boyega is George Clooney post Batman and Robin. He's funny, aware, and knows how to embrace the memes. He started off as an Indie actor and has enough charisma to keep getting work. Same with Oscar Isaac. Such actors do not need Hollywood. They will flourish wherever they go.
6:01 that guy is such a legend. He was a meme. John Boyega is the only thing I liked in the first disney star wars movie. Him and BB-8. Shame we didn't get to see do more stuff from the inside as a stormtrooper.
It's not just incompetence and stupidity, it's more than not understanding Star Wars on a fundamental level, it goes past an agenda and humiliation, it's contempt and malice. I hope Disney burns for what they have done to Star Wars. Unforgivable.
Amen my friend
"Contempt and malice"? Sorry, but that suggests a level of planning and forethought that I do not believe Disney (collectively) is capable of. The unholy abomination that is the Sequel trilogy to me shows mostly stupidity, indifference and a total absence of integrity. That's the scary thing about it.
I think they should burn for all the other companies they bought and butchered.
@@Raygo.Oh they're definitely capable of malice, if you ever heard about that Circle 7 scandal you'd know. They were gonna steal Pixar's characters.
Red Leader: OK, listen up folks. The Death Star will be in range in 15 minutes. I need a volunteer to point his X-Wing at the surface, hit your lightspeed drive, and punch right through to the reactor.
Red 6: I'll do it, boss.
Red Leader: You sure, Porkins?
Red 6: I'm probably gonna just shot down in the first 2 minutes of the battle anyway. Tell em to hang a medal on my grave.
Red Leader: May the Force be with you, son.
Red 6: FOR THE REPUBLIC!
A Stormtrooper being Force sensitive and breaking free of his Dark Side programming would’ve been such a compelling story. His story of being taken as a child and indoctrinated is a direct parallel to the Jedi. Have him be wary of Luke because Finn fears the Jedi are no better than the First Order. THAT is how you do a “deconstruction”. Could’ve been such a moment to have him embrace the Force and fight for good.
But nah, we needed the Rey Show.
Rey would have worked as an orphan being looked after by Han Solo. The first order winning in force awakens and Kylo killing Solo would made her have vested interest in taking down the first order.
It would have also lead to an interesting follow up movie were Finn, a former first order troop, and Rey, who's father was killed by the first order, set aside their differences and learn to work together as a team to take down the first order, which they would have done in the 3rd movie.
Rey joining Kylo would have made the story interesting too. And if they made you sympathize somewhat with the empire rather than just the, "we are evil just because."
If the underdog less powerful, but force sensitive storm trooper had to take on naturally talented dark side sith, would have made a far better show.
@beanspobbles6704 I thought it made so much sense for her to join Kylo. But no, the female must be perfect these days.
The force is female after all.
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From an intriguing and fascinating character to a useless comic relief piece constantly screaming for Rey, they really did a number on Finn/JB
TOKEN BLACK GUY!!
Just like Mace Windu and Black Panther!!
Imagine "I am your father" being in the trailer..m
The screaming is pure cringe. Whoever's idea it was for him to do that, multiple times, deserves a hard slap on the nuts.
Intriguing? Fascinating? The stormtrooper janitor who completely switches sides in 5 minutes and then acts like a clown for the rest of the movie? He was already ruined in the first movie.
He was annoying right from the start
@@darrengordon-hill Windu wasn't token. His character does alot of kickass things throughout the clone wars; he's the reason General Grevious went from being almost unstoppable to coughing and being weaker for Kenobi in ep III. His purple lightsaber was a request from Jackson to Lucas.
The idea of a storm trooper defecting was such a good idea and they blew it. It's wild.
Luckily, Star Wars had defectors that worked. Just watch The Mandalorian and Andor
@@marcusblackwell2372 They dropped the ball in season 3 for Mando though, which means they could not stop Kathleen Kennedy from interfering and injecting her poison. Mando in a way is a mirror for the so-called sequels, started off looking promising before rapidly going downhill. Mando's decline was not nearly as bad as what came in the wake of LAST JEDI though.
@@marcusblackwell2372 i like Andor. I think Mando should have ended after season 2.
Episode 8 broke everything but 9 was just atrocious. It left you feeling ashamed you even liked this franchise.
I love that to this day there's no consensus on which is worse between the two. They're both awful in entirely different ways. It's like, what's more devastating? Actively seeing something get broken or watching its mangled form writhe on the ground?
Those films felt so bitter that the only way to counter that is to look back on the sweet trilogies and the Legends stories.
Made me realize it was dead at least. No more hope.
Most people stopped at 8 lol. How many turds do you have to eat before you realize "i dont think I like eating turds"
Imagine putting all your chips on one legacy actor to carry the future of your franchise, and doing literally nothing to course correct when she dies a year before release.
According to the Force Awakens official poster:
Kylo --> badass
Rey --> newly appointed keeper of balance with the force
Finn --> young badass
After watching films:
Kylo --> could be beaten by jar jar binks
Rey --> granted lore level strength because woman
Finn --> occasionally yells
The Force Awakens is decent in my opinion, a good start for a new saga...before Ryan Johnson...before The Last Jedi.
@@x_.suzaku._x mate, they made A New Hope with a different cast, but they shouldn't do that in Star Wars, there's no purpose for doing that. Back to the Future could pull that trick in 3 movies, but it had a purpose doing it that way. Disney could easily tell a new story with new characters following the end of the empire or going to the old republic stories.
The Force Awakens was arriving to the bbq, you see the grill working and a cooler full of beer. The next two films we find out they were cooking mushroom burgers on gluten-free buns and the beer is non alcoholic.@@x_.suzaku._x
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I finally watched the final Bond film the other day and it really got me down. The last decade or so has seen the utter destruction of every property I loved growing up, Star Wars, Star Trek, James Bond, The Matrix, The Simpsons, Futurama, The Lord of the Rings... Even small things which had an impact on me developmentally, like Artemis Fowl, got shit on. I genuinely think nothing is safe.
Yeah. It's why I've just stopped watching. I let too many of my favorites get butchered for the sake of whatever excuse Hollywood has to ruin what was once great - although it mostly seems to be money and nostalgia peppered with the modern ideologies forced into it. Ugh. It's going to take several years to get to the next step where originality and boldness take the lead.
Pirates of the Caribbean, and now Indiana Jones 😔 Atleast transformers I heard was good still? Nothing else I like has been spared
@@dyroth Right, I missed those two. We could probably keep going, naming more and more, and it would just keep getting more and more depressing.
@@613harbinger316 I've stopped watching too. I only watched No Time to Die because my girlfriend insisted we finish the series, which we binged together over the last few months. I would have been happy to never watch it. I too hope this nonsense ends soon.
Still got South Park
It's such a shame what they did to him. He was the only character with an actually interesting backstory and tons of potential. Rey would have worked better as a sidekick or future villain. Finn was the only one versatile enough to make an interesting main lead. I'm so glad I didn't watch the third film after how horrible the second was.
Finn was a good concept, but only on paper. The Episode 7 closed so many doors for the following episodes.
Saaame
Single best thing for Rey would have been her turning to the dark side in the second film and partners with Kylo Ren to destroy and form a new empire. But oh-no, then Mary Sue wouldn’t have been the best Jedi EVER (without any work).
@@Libertas_P77 at least it would have been interesting.
So Hans Solo wasnt interesting to you despite being a fan favorite for decades? That also includes Chewbaka, Luke Skywalker, and Darth Vader?
Plot twist: the real reason they shrunk him on the Chinese poster was because the makers knew it would be more proportional to his future character role
lol honestly though I do wonder if they did what they did to him in the second movie onwards because of the chinese money they wanted to get their hands on.
@@no_player_commentaryreally? Nothing gets by you does it!
@@criticalcommenter Nope it really doesn't, reminds me of everything getting through the middle of your mom though
“Surveying says didn’t test well with international (cough China cough) theaters. Let’s diminish his role in the next films.
Sick burn!
Man the trailer for TFA was epic. I remember the excitement we all felt when that teaser dropped. The speculation over who Kylo was, and where the OG trio were at. All the theories that were making the rounds. We were all so full of wonder and hope for the future. There was so much potential, and then we saw the movies...
Exactly this. I have not even watched the new movies reading about the crap on Reddit was enough.
"You ain't going to Disney Plus me"
-John Boyega
Who????
Is he doing ANYTHING bigger???
Has he gone onto BETTER things???
Until recently when he said he's open to it
@sefik2809
"It's pretty hard to do anything bigger or better than Star Wars"
So why is he so against "Disney Plus"??
HE SAID "Ain't gonna Disney Plus me".
HE is suggesting it's BENEATH HIM.
So I ASKED
Who is he to say he's better than a thing YOU AGREE "It doesn't get bigger or better than"???
And your bitch response is "I'm jealous"???
OF WHAT???
Being in The Woman King or whatever Clone Tyrone is????
HE'S NO SIDNEY POITIER, my god, the losers y'all cape for!!!
Seek Jesus.
@@gordonschnick12 💰💰💰💰💰💰 cha-ching
@@DoubleXP-u1gI did something bigger and better than Disney Wars in the toilet about 20 minutes ago.
Calling the Dagger from the Rise of Skywalker out of the Goonies is beyond disrespectful, Disney Star Wars writing in general should be a crime.
Goonies is way better.
lmao
Nah it's fair, that kind of thing just isn't bad in a movie like the Goonies because that sort of thing fits well enough into what that movie was supposed to be. The same kind of silliness that made the Goonies as enjoyable as it was is just bad writing if you try to shove it into Star Wars. I mean, to use a slightly more extreme example, imagine if suddenly Disney decided that grey jedi use cartoon powers like Bugs Bunny. It's not that random, over-the-top chaotic nonsense is bad writing, it's great if you're making a Looney Toons film. It's going to be bad writing if you try to shoehorn it into a Star Wars movie, though.
*Darth Vader:* _"It's their time....their time, up there. Down here, it's our time. It's _*_OUR_*_ time, down here. Join me and we can rule the galaxy as father and son!"_
@@hmartinsplifftoo awesome!
It hurts because of what it could have been, it was so close at the beginning to being something great. Then it sort of just...didn't. So now we are left with an empty feeling of disappointment and a longing for what we were so close to receiving.
i cant watch EPVII without flying into rage, over the wasted potential the film and its characters had. i mean, Stormtrooper turned rbel turned Jedi?, that would had been awesome. but nope, we get "Rey Skywalker"...... FRAK YOU LUCASARTS, FRAK YOU!!!
And the lesson to take away from all this? Don't let dueling directors handle one story line over three installments. Especially hacks like Rian Johnson and the other guy. =9[.]9=
i had the same feeling watching Lost, and Game of Thrones.
Indeed
@@251spartan well gosh you just hate women don't you. how dare you insinuate a man in a movie should be shown having redeeming qualities.
I'll never understand TLJ's "Finn is a coward" arc when standing up to a dark side force-user when you're just some normal guy in a lightsaber battle is one of the bravest things I've seen anyone do in this whole franchise
Plus if we are honest we would be scared of the First Order as well...before Ruin came for Hux.
This, especially since, as an ex stormtrooper, he would have had a deeper inate fear of Kylo
And even worse, when he wanted to sacrifice himself in the end this was stopped by a crazy Rose ... still want to see extra scenes where Finn drags her back to the Rebel base over the whole distance while the First Order is just waiting because they are as confused about what just happened as everybody else ...
@@lordmontymord8701 This was one of the moments where the movie didn´t bore me, but actively bullied me.
That was his arc during TFA, he starts the movie by running away and later on he's so scared he leaves his friends, that's when he gains courage and picks up the lightsaber. It's like Rian didn't watch the movie he was making a sequel to.
Yeah, Finn had so much potential.. for oh.. the first 10, 20 minutes or so. As did Poe, then Rey happened. It's like my missus has said so many times, they should have cut Rey out entirely and give the appropriate parts to Finn and Poe respectively.
Scenes like where Rey flies the Falcon like she was born in it, where Solo takes to her as his long lost child would have made perfect sense if it had been Poe, so much like Han once was, the son he wanted instead of the spoiled brat he got. And Finn, struggling with his new life of overcoming his old as a storm trooper, child solider, now seeking out Luke, learning about the Force, and instead of revelling in killing his former soldiers he sets out, full of compassion, to free them from their conditioning.
I liked the introduction to Rey as a scavenger for parts from old empire ships and machines. If they had allowed her to develop slowly, almost like a second Jedi alongside Finn, then they could have potentially contrasted two different approaches: Finn as perhaps a bit too eager and reckless due to having been a storm trooper and desperate to, as you suggest, free other storm troopers from their conditioning; and Rey as the slow and calm learner which would have fitted in with her patient diligence of living life alone.
but but but the Force is female! Your missus is a closest misogynist!
These are legitimately excellent ideas.
@@Warstub Yes, slower pace for Rey. Make her more gifted in the force and agile but recognize Fin's training as a warrior from a young age. In the second move explore and differentiate their motivations Fin wanting to help others and sees the complexity of the Empire. Rey wanting to find her parents and hates the empire. They seek out Luke but he doesn't want to help because of Ren. They continue to train each other and try to learn what little bit they can from Luke. Then Luke truely rejects them Fin's for his desire for love and emotions. Rey for lack of restraint for seeking power. Ends with Fin going off to save/free storm troopers and Rey rejoining the rebels to destroy the empire.
Third movie many years later. Fin has become a great leader and general liberating other solders. Rey has gained power but is frustrated by the lack of success of the rest of the resistance and decides to go it alone. In the process, Leia dies this awakens Luke to how far Rey has gone and motivates him to take action. He seeks Fin's help. In the climax Rey succeeds in killing Snook and taking his power, she also kills Luke. Just prior Ren force communes with Luke and in his death sees the light. He force pushes Rey off screen before she can kill Fin. Confused, Ren retreats. This leaves Fin alone in the seat of power. The aftermath is Fin bringing back the republic. Rey and Ren are in hiding in separate sectors, but for now the force is balanced with one as the new Sith lord and the other as a reformed Jedi both outcasts. The last images are of Rey giving birth to Ren's? twins. The Skywalker/Solo line continues...
@@barongerhardt Brilliant! 👌
With competent writers, John would’ve been our generation’s Luke Skywalker.
Yep, the worst.
I mean, you could say the same for Rey too. Competent writers can make any character good.
@@Puerkl8rFinns story would have been unique don't try to downplay that
@@RichMMediaAll I'm saying is that competent writers can make any character good.
And unique how? He was already unique as an ex-stormtrooper. He didn't need to become a jedi to be unique. In fact I'd say he had a great setup to being a great character at the end of Ep.7. Ep. 8 destroyed that setup, and because of that, Ep. 9 didn't know what to do with him.
Ep 9 was incompetence. Ep 8 was malice. I could feel the contempt Ruin Johnson felt for Star Wars and especially the fans in every frame.
Well said
That movie felt like a girl he had a crush on in school was a Star Wars fan, and she rejected him, so he ruined this out of revenge.
Not sure ep9 was incompetence, I think it was trying hard to fix something that just couldn't be fixed. Ep8 ruined the trilogy beyond repair, and from that point forward, ep9 was doomed no matter what direction it tried to go.
(Don't get me wrong, ep9 is hot garbage)
@@mariobrito427 The big flaw of the trilogy as a whole was that they didn't have a direction they mapped out in advance and then stuck to. An entire trilogy that was "homage" or "deconstruction" could feasibly have worked...but you can't go from one to the other, then have a third movie that's very obviously emergency damage control and expect to tell a coherent story.
@@paulgibbon5991 I agree, but I think it's important to specify names here. JJ Abrams is a director known for long (often multi-movie) narratives full of twists and turns - things he's clearly starting to do in TFA. I firmly believe he had a plan going in. Issues started when Kennedy decided "hey this sounds like a good time to replace him with my Favourite Little Best Boy(TM) Rian Johnson!"
This isn't to claim JJ had no fault here - he did, he decided to stick to his 'twists and turns' MO even after it was clear that wasn't going to work anymore, and thus tried to cram them all into one, horrible movie - but I think it's important to identify the sources of the problem. And they all seem to link back to Kennedy and her ego.
Finn was a great character in The Force Awakens.
The first 20 minutes or so when he was the protagonist, at least.
Honestly, I'll give it to him. He was great throughout. Not perfect, but more than simply good.
This, sadly. Finn's character was ruined as soon as he crashed on not-Tatooine. He goes from being the badass warrior breaking free from his chains to... the comic relief drinking out of animal troughs and pathetically simping after the first girl he met so hard Han had to tell him to knock it off.
Which wasn't even the only time Han caught second hand cringe from Finn in TFA. Remember when Phasma was forced to deactivate the shields? Finn gets carried away acting macho after Phasma has already been subdued, and Han has to pull another "OK kid, that's enough making a fool out of yourself."
Because after Finn's amazing introduction with Poe, JJ turned him into the bumbling comic relief. From super soldier to silly janitor!
FFS, people just refuse to admit, after all these years, that TFA was a mistake as well. The hypegoggles and hopium were too strong for people to see the writing on the wall, but it was all there.
@@duncanlutz3698exactly
Finn could have been such an amazing character because back then we never really got to see the eyes of a regular storm trooper in a Star Wars story.
You forgot Kyle Katarn, star of the 'Dark Forces' video games, who received training at the Imperial Academy- including marching in stormtrooper armor.
The clone troopers in Clone Wars are the closest we've come.
I want to say some of Timothy Zahn's later Star Wars stories had important Stormtrooper characters, especially in Allegiance.
Finn should have been force senstive and saved Ray when she fails due to overconfidence
@@x_Paine_xhe was supposed to be force sensitive but they got rid of that idea in episode 8.
I must give you your props. Calling out how they betrayed him as a buffoon. On point. Thank you.
Even JB didn't know what 8 and 9 were called because he erased them from his memory..... Like they erased him from theirs.
Cnuts
It's a good thing I've never watched anything "Disney Starwars". Just watching commentary like this has proved me right time and time again!
I still recommend rogue one and andor. They are pretty isolated compared to the rest and you can be fairly entertained by them
@@miqvPL Agreed. Tony Gilroy is a true creative and a person of vision. He insisted on (and got) almost full creative control over _Andor,_ and the result is a near masterpiece.
Not even clone wars season 7
@jmurray1110 Ok. I have watched Clone Wars. So unfortunately i have watched a Disney Starwars. I stand corrected. The ending of that series was what actually turned me off Disneywars. I was expecting a great climax to explain what pushed Anikin further Dark Side. Not the kindergarten, " no, your wrong " explanation about what side is the "evil" of the force!
Marcus.... I am so jealous. I WISH I had never watched ANY Disney Star Wars..... but at least I can say, I REFUSED to watch Rise of Skywalker (still haven't and won't), Willow show, or the newest Indy movie. Last Jedi broke me.... but what goes around, comes around. Eventually.
LITERALLY everything you just said about Finn is EXACTLY word for word how I felt about what Finn's character arc could have been and the garbage story line he ended up actually getting. 🤦♂️
One of my better decisions, was stopping after The Force Awakens.
The clips and critical reviews are more than enough. Kind of like rafting across a river of shit and not getting any on you.
I did too and I have got many hours of entertainment watching RUclipsrs reviewing/roasting Disney, Lucas Film.
Lucky you. I had to sit through 8 before I knew to stop.
Smart move. I actually avoided spoilers and paid money at a theater to watch The Last Jedi. It is one of two movies I should have walked out on and asked for my money back. But I was just like Star Wars fans now. I hung on until the bitter end believing they would turn it around. I was wrong. I was so wrong.
So many people are still in denial about TFA being so terrible half the movie goers never went to theatres for 8 and 9.
Luke showing up gave some people hope at the end. See what they did with that hope...
good on you. the only reason they keep making this garbage is so many people, even after hearing a hundred bad reviews, still go and watch the crap anyway and pay for the privilege. it blew my mind how many people still went to see indiana jones when the negative reviews were given out a whole month in advance!!?
I was so excited with the TFA trailer. I'm a 501st costumer and was on the TFA red carpet at Leicester Square, in my Sandtrooper armour. Such a great night. Phasma looked so badass, yet she was one of the most under-used and wasted characters in the film. The fact that Han, Luke and Leia didn't have some scenes together was Kennedy twisting her spiteful knife. Such a let-down, the whole thing has been a disaster - Disney has ruined Star Wars for me. After seeing TFA I started building a TFA TIE fighter costume and it's still not finished - my heart is just no longer in it.
I'm a Mando costumer myself. I was with Star Wars since 1977(7 years old) and I absolutely hate the new movies! The Mandalorian is good because of the exploration of Mando culture. But the last three movies are the lazy productions of lazy people. And it's not the actors fault either.
The Last Jedi quite frankly felt, forced. I had originally built high hopes for the film but I found my self watching a familiar story told with less creativity and or fun. The film makes me sick for having tarnished our loved characters and replacing them with knock off's, lol. I try not to include these films although I can't set them aside completely so I look forward to newer projects leading Disney to try and bury and correct these films while at the same time going farther then needed. What a mess. As always I enjoyed the video Robot Head, can't wait to see your insight on Asoka. I suppose will see how that goes.
The Last Jedi was the last Star Wars media I've ever watched. After that, I didn't need to see Rise of Skywalker to know it was gonna suck. =-[.]-=
To me, The Last Jedi felt like a sequel to seven movies that only existed in Rian Johnson's head.
Nope, Mark Hamil was constantly saying "Fans aren't going to get what they want in this movie" so I know it was a shit-show going in.
@@nathank2289 I hung onto every word that man said for those 5 or so years. Cause he was dripping honesty the entire time.
“One film hates Star Wars, the other hates cinema”
I still can’t get over how insane TROS was
Insane? Yes, but on the other side the perfect ending for this trilogy. Thanks to TLJ all chances of a somewhat cohesive trilogy were gone (which is the one thing i will give the prequels). So just embrace the madness. Nothing makes sense, Palpatine is somehow back (i love Poe's line, it's really honest from J.J. to admit that we won't get more than tha), and we get a gigantic end fight out of nothing.
If i haven't read the leaks before i might have been pissed, but so i was enjoying the movie in the cinema because i knew what nonsense was coming ...
I have no issue with TROS. I never saw it because I knew it was DOA.
TROS didn't "hate" anything. It was a fine movie that tried to redeem the trilogy but obviously failed because of how rushed it was.
@@orbaitv5991 A fine movie that failed because of how rushed it was? Really? It was a dumpster fire from start to finish.
3:25
I remember sitting in the theater for FA when I was 10, watching the part where Poe and Finn are in the Tie fighter and thinking "This is awesome, these characters are awesome, I'm going to love this movie!" And then Rey was introduced and never left. Boy was I wrong, and very dissapointed.
Boyega went from heroic stormtrooper with potential who dabbles in lightsaber combat, to water toy trauma patient, to an Easy Button that just screams _"REY!"_
"They're all lovely ☺️" His finest acting performance yet.
I love how he only called "The Force Awakens" by name and the others by their number.
The Rise of Skywalker - Ugh
imo, worse than last jedi
Yuk.
@@keithmichael112 Yeah I rather watch a turd like Last Jedi before the heap of dung that is Rise of Skywalker.
The Last Jedi was hot garbage but Rise of Skywalker was pathetic and spineless. 100% corporate crap.
@@BungieStudios I've never heard anyone talk about how it killed jj Abrams career, he was a fairly big name until then. at least the last jedi took a few swings for the fences, ROS was a panicked reaction to it, and it really shows. unwatchable
During the first half of The Force Awakens I was interested in two characters:
- Finn, as a Stormtrooper creating a complete new angle in Star wars, "humanizing" them, giving them a backstory maybe he could convince more to switch sides etc and himself becoming a Jedi or Leader.
- Husk, seeming being treated as an Equal to a rather weak Kylo Ren. There was an interesting tension and power play between them, both seconds below Snoke. He also had lots of potential, maybe overthrowing the force users some how or being the reason Kylo might turn to the light side or, or or....
but what gives - both characters become idiotic, pathetic comic relief characters, their potential utterly butchered before they was even a chance. Shame.
Evil can never create, and it certainly hates all that is good and green on this earth. In this case, these evils were disguised as "subverting expectations". In a sense, they "dislike" anything that is good because it's too cliche. The way I see it, the current Hollywood (especially Lucasfilm/Disney) mantra is, "If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is".
They could've had an Admiral Thrawn and Vader rival relationship. Both didn't like each other but respected each other's skills.
@@brainrich1358 Yes exactly this!
I stopped watching 'The Last Jedi' half way thru and never went back... just utter garbage.
Good for you! I was foolish enough to watch the movie to the end. Ugh!
1:45 The dumbest thing about that fight is that apparently the speeders aren't even armed... presumably because someone realised "Err, why didn't they do anything other than drifting around a bit?" "No idea, throw an explanation into the expanded universe, either the novelisation or reference book..."
if that was the dumbest thing we'd have been off to a good start.
So... what was their plan, then? This makes it even more insane.
"P{rivate, you see those heavily armoured walkers and their giant fuckoff cannon thing? Let's drive a bunch of unarmed speeders at them."
- "Sir, what are the speeders going to do when they get there?"
"Honestly, no clue. Probably all our men will just get shot because they've no method of defending themselves, let alone anything that could damage the things we're sending them at."
Ahh, yes another fantastic commentary, from my favorite Australian.
Cheers Man!
If only they had developed Finn to leaning towards the light side because of what he's seen and Rey going to the dark because of her lack of direction and anger over her situation. That would have created a great story arc to cover over a few films.
Another Robot Head masterpiece. And I never get tired of everyone pooping on this creatively bankrupt franchise. "They fly now."
I absolutely love your content. One of the few I look forward to posting anymore!
10:25 - Hang on... you left out the fight with Phasma. Disappointing as it was, it still happened.
"Let's go Chrome-Dome!"
I did really like the one-liner at the end:
"REBEL scum."
It's heartbreaking that Franchises like Star Wars, Marvel and Star Trek get desecrated while Barbie gets "handled with care".
Hey look I am engaging in dialogue with the comments.
Heartbreaking, yes, but it makes perfect sense.
This is how Disney executives think:
"Another installment in one of the greatest franchises of all time? That's gonna need a lot of money. And I mean, a LOT of money. We can't be too risky here... because this is a lot of money. Besides, most people are gonna see this movie anyway... because it leeches off the success of its predecessors. Hell, we don't even need to try that hard. Just pump out another generic, obscenely expensive blockbuster and call it a day."
Barbie actually had to TRY... because most people were gonna assume it's a joke. George Lucas already did the heavy lifting to build up the Star Wars universe. It's a household name. So really, Disney can just pump out another generic Star Wars movie and most people are gonna see it. Profit!
As a lifelong star wars fan who was born in the early 70's and had all the toys growing up and Atari star wars games and all things star wars related I honestly don't remember the new trilogy and what they're about,I can't even remember the names of the movies and what order they run,I saw each only once and eradicated them from my mind.........😢
When I saw him I really thought there was hope. I loved him in Attack the Block and thought the second film was going to go in an interesting direction but it all so badly fell apart. In the words of Greta "How dare you. You have stolen my dreams, and my childhood"
You should see a movie called Breaking. John Boyega is amazing in it! :)
The sad thing, though, is that if you do see that movie, you'll see how the Star Wars Sequels completely wasted his acting talent.
@@G360LIVE I already knew he was a good actor, but will check that out
The Goonies holds up as a fun movie. It's not some screed or deconstruction, it's still a fun movie to watch. Fun is bad now, according to the sh*twits.
just wait until they remake it for modern audiences (tiktoking non-binary eco-warrior vegan feminazis from Oregon and California for exemple...)
Yeah. I miss having movies that are just fun. I think the Mario movie is good at that.
That first Force Awakens trailer still gives me goosebumps. And then I remember.
I almost feel sorry for the rise of Skywalker. The main reason it’s terrible is it was supposed to be the continuation of the Last Jedi and well you’re supposed to finish a story set up in a movie where the story is complete nonsense and broken to the point it shattered an entire franchise, you really don’t have a fighting chance. It’s like trying to restore the data on a hard drive that was shattered into a million pieces. That data is gone and you aren’t going to recover.
I remember back when John Boyega was announced to play Fin, I was excited. I'd seen him in a few things and knew he had the potential to go far.
Turned out to be the most wasted talent outside of the original cast.
yes, it was waste to cast a talentless person
They wrote him out of the movie basically
Him, Luke, and Snoke. Anyone we found interesting was dumbed down or killed off.
The other thing about the " way finder" is that it pointed a path through a nebula or whatever. Since the planet they were looking for isn't in the nebula, they could have just gone around it. You can do that in space.
It’s a shame to see how Disney mishandled Star Wars. It would’ve been exciting to see Finn (Stormtrooper to Jedi) and Rey (orphan to Sith) clash on the big screen in a proper trilogy.
7 was foreplay with the same partner for 30 years.
8 was that time they pegged you and it hurt
9 was the paper towels to clean it up before flushing.
I would hold out hope for a recovery, but we're living in the worst timeline. My beloved Star Wars is dead. Not only that, it was murdered and the corpse was paraded naked around town.
While being struggle-snuggled in every hole.
There’s a video of John watching the Ep 7 trailer with his dad that is incredibly hype and emotional.
The concept of a stormtrooper becoming a jedi would be so cool. I really thought that this trilogy was setting up for two protagonists with Finn and Rey, but I guess not even his race can protect him from KK's self insert being the entire focus of the series.
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I remember pointing that out years ago.
The whole Battle of Crait from start to finish is a case study in bad writing. Not one shot in that scene made any narrative or logical sense.
Finn in ever single scene he’s in: “REYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!”
OK I watch every Robot Head video but this has to be up there with one of the best!!! Can we please show it to John Boyega, I think he will het a kick out of it! Great video my friend!
The fact they did Finn character so wrong just baffles me man. I still remember the hype around him. Dude was a turned storm trooper. Than you see him welding a lightsaber. Had ppl thinking we were gonna get the second coming of mace windu. The hype was real af. Just to see Disney destroy his character. And not only do that, but turn him into a damn side character of a joke smh. I mean shit him and Rey even had a romance brewing from the 7th film that all go scrapped. Could y’all imagine if we would of gotten 2 lightsaber users in Finn and Rey????
Rian did say he was there to subvert your expectations, didn't he. Shoulda seen cucked finn coming a mile away.
You took the words strange out of my mouth ROBOT HEAD. Spot on.
They really did John Boyega dirty. On so many levels. John Boyega is a next generational talent that could have done so much for the film series, but by Episode 9 he was just an afterthought. If anyone wants to see his true range, check him out in "They Cloned Tyrone". I didn't even recognize him at first.
Top quality. Thank you sir. Your efforts have not gone unrecognized.
The bait and swap of Finn not being the next jedi was so fucking annoying. He was perfect for the next protaganist. They could have built his back story to be dark and really interesting. He would have to really fight to be in light side, since he started in the dark side and that's all he really knew, even if he felt it was wrong. But no. They rush him to the sideline and completely shit on him. What a waste.
And looking at it again, why is everyone's acting so over the top? With the weird faces and the yelling and the cartoony shit? When you watch the original trilogy, or even the sequal trilogy. The actors were pretty grounded in how they acted. They talked calm and like normal people. I haven't watched any of the Disney films since The Last Jedi release, so I never really thought about it, but even just the way the acting was done was so out of field of Star Wars. I guess maybe it was Disneyfied? But man, it's just so off putting once i noticed.
Great call on the exaggerated, over-the-top "acting" in Disney Star Wars! Yeah, it's noticeable when compared to the Lucas trilogies.
@@HufflepuffDaddy It's funny because even the Clone Wars cartoon is a shit ton more grounded with it's VAs then the actors in the live action.
Superb editing again Robot Head. Always a treat watching your Star Wars vids. Keep em coming.
Robot Head crushin it again!
Cheers 👍
12:29 “Who wants to meet the a jedi master” oh boy what a turn off 😂
Force awakens trailer makes me want to watch it again...
If only they had a plan for the others
I believe that the same group of people who said they received no plans from Abrams said they 'didn't have any books to adapt' for any of the movies at all, so I'd take that statement with a _planet's_ worth of salt.
4:23 it’s not we have Andor and ………
No that’s really it just Andor the only good Star Wars show running watch Andor support a good Star Wars product
I'm fairly certain the plan was to shit all over Star Wars fans so I believe they succeeded. There is no way in hell you can take Star Wars and unintentionally fuck it up the ass like they did.
I definitely believe that Abrams had a plan. Ep 9 felt like 2 movies stuffed into one. I can see how Rian Johnson's self described "scrapping" of Abrams plot and doing his own thing could have been the primary reason the trilogy failed.
@@ellanimation816the fact they cared about their own original product more than something like Kenobi doesn’t help…
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Wasn’t expecting to see my boy airsoftfatty!
I like to pretend that I'm still waiting for Episodes 8 + 9.
“You are made of stupid” has NEVER fit another property more perfectly
The force awakens really held a lot of promise, as derivative as it was in many aspects. A near perfect springboard to do something great. What a gamble they took by letting Roundhead Hamsterface Johnson play "auteur" and have a subversion fest that wasn't even good apart from imploding the whole franchise. The only way that CF of franchise management paid off was to give us countless delicious episodes by our very own Robot Head.
Nah. TFA was dreck from the get-go. It completely and without preamble or explanation undid everything good about the original Star Wars movies, resurrected the Empire as the First Order, including a ridiculous, ill-conceived mega-weapon, and shat upon the original cast without mercy. The only good thing about TFA, in the end, was the theme music. =9[.]9=
@@Raycheetah And the ending! It was a real cliff-hanger. Or cliff-stander, I guess. But the end scene left everyone (me, anyway) really eager to see what would happen next. However mid, or blah TFA was, it wasn't so bad the next movie couldn't improve things, right? That interest made over half of TLJ's billion gross. And that's what happens to wide-eyed optimists: fastball to the nuts and then step on a rake.
@@Trollificusv2 TLJ was the very last Star Wars media I ever watched. I didn't feel any need to "finish" the Disney trilogy, or watch any of their streaming shows. For me, Star Wars officially ended with ROTJ. ='[.]'=
@@Raycheetah don't watch rise of skywhatever. no review or anything does it justice. it's that stale and pointless and fucking stupid, it really is that much of a deranged CGI fuckfest and canon ruining nightmare. shockingly unbelievable how bad RoS is.
I wouldn't watch all those disney shows either. I just don't want any of this crap, make it all go away. for fucks sake. what did we do to deserve this
@@Raycheetah Amen. 100%
I like how in the opening clip he doesn’t even mention their names
If it were up to me, I'd make everything after Finn goes unconscious in The Force Awakens a fever dream, where Finn wakes up being taken care of by Luke Skywalker and Rey being taken by Kylo Ren.
12:28 I thought that was Daisy Ridely there for a second and I thought poor Daisy, no work and you have real let yourself go.
Should be obvious. John Boyega should've been the main character, but he's a man. And black at that. Lord knows we can't have THAT for international audiences aka CHINA.
holy shit, the shot of security character XYZ tossing FIFA droid down the stairs got me in fits
Why in the world did they have Boyega do an American English accent for this role? There are in-universe examples of British accents being associated with the Empire/First Order and he was a Stormtrooper. Did they really think dumb American audiences would think he was a bad guy if he used his real life accent?
I remember thinking how cool Phasma was and she had so little of anything to do with the film it was mind boggling.
I love John Boyega
A pity Hollywood keeps WASTING HIS TALENTS, and projecting Hollywood execs' own anti-black racism onto China, as seen with his images' diminished sizes in Chinese language 'Star Wars' posters. (The fact he starred in 'Pacific Rim Uprising'- which would never have been made if not for the first movie's popularity in China, and depended on Chinese investors to get made- proves the lie of "Chinese people don't like seeing black people.")
Seek help
That was actually kind of depressing to look back on. Amazing how badly they screwed it up.
I feel so bad for the writers down at lucasfilm
Not the ones that do the shows or movies
But the ones stuck trying to fix or at least un-fuck the shitshow of a story via comic books and novels
Bold of you to assume that Lucasfilm would hire anyone that wants to do that.
Nah, Ive seen reviews of the books and comics that try to fix the movies. They suck just as bad.
How can a franchise like Star Wars NOT find and hire the greatest writers in the entire world? Do they not realize how many people in the industry, or even fans, would kill to write Star Wars?
Man it feels wierd rewatching force awakens and actually enjoying it now… am I wierd?
Maybe, although I'm more curious what you enjoy about it - it's not the fatal dysentery of ep 8 & 9, more like a case of food poisoning.
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher I remember enjoying it when I first watched it in theaters,” as a new introduction to the new trilogy,
I came out the theater with a bunch of optimism for future movies, because honestly I was hooked on the idea of having a clone/ stormtrooper runaway turned Jedi.
And how Rey and Kylo would change over time, (I kinda thought Rey would turn to the dark side and kill kylo, then her and Finn would fight, (I was hyped.)
It was also cool the idea of having a black lead character in a Starwars movie, as I didn’t grow up with many.
It sucks even more that they removed finn from foreign marketing, and completely sidelined him,
TFA wasn't bad. I remember liking it when I first saw it. Not as much as the originals or even the prequells, but the main reasons I didn't like it as much was because it felt like a rehash of ANH and I hated that killed off Han before the original cast could be reunited. Otherwise I thought it was a good film and hoped that they had something cool planned out for eps 8 and 9. Then I saw eps 8 and 9 and realized they were just making it up as they went along and had no clue what they were doing. But part of the reason eps 8 and 9 were so bad was due to the poor decisions they made for ep 7. So, even though I sort of liked ep 7 when it first came out, I think it's a bad film mainly for that reason.
Charlie Murphy!!!!
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Always gives me a hell of a laugh! Cheers to Robot Head 😎
Oh, and ….Space Horses!
“But they were all lovely”
That’s the biggest lie anyone has ever said about the sequel trilogy and John Boyega knows it.
Uh no. Disney paid tons of Critics to say the Last Jedi was a good movie to see. THAT was the biggest lie anyone every said about the sequel trilogy.
It’s called,”Sarcasm”. The look on his face,and him rolling his eyes as he said it,shows that he in fact,did NOT think they were “Lovely”.
He is probably contracted obligated to not say bad things about those movies. You can see his face though lol
just imagine showing up bcus you saw an advert for "MEETING THE JEDI MASTER" and fucking RAY walks on stage. i would lose my shit
I have disney plus and its crap,everything on it is crap,even the layout is crap.
We just go rid of it and it feels so good. Never going back.
Your style of humor is priceless keep it going playboy.
Jon Boyega is George Clooney post Batman and Robin. He's funny, aware, and knows how to embrace the memes. He started off as an Indie actor and has enough charisma to keep getting work. Same with Oscar Isaac. Such actors do not need Hollywood. They will flourish wherever they go.
"Violated by a sack of potatoes" is now my new go-to reaction.
Great video. Your research shined thru your editing. I also laughed. Off to watch your other videos b4 subscribing
The same reason everyone did I imagine, it was horrific.
I just realized something, The only way for the map to work is to have foreknowledge of the death star II breaking in a very specific way.
Some fantastic editing in this one, mate.
main reason I want a new star wars movie is watching videos of Robot Head about them
That Hollywood Shuffle clip was a deep cut. I see you Robot Head!
'Straight to Convention' career. That was actually quite sad to watch haha
That first trailer......it still gives me chills..... and then I feel a crushing disappointment rushing back into me...
I still don't understand how people defend these films. Even when the actors admit they were trash
Your use of memes is masterful, have my subscription sir.
6:01 that guy is such a legend. He was a meme.
John Boyega is the only thing I liked in the first disney star wars movie. Him and BB-8. Shame we didn't get to see do more stuff from the inside as a stormtrooper.
"Rey Sky... *Slap*"
I could watch that clip for hours.