“Simplicity is the final achievement. After one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art.” ― Frédéric Chopin
All points of view are welcome here. I post these recordings to bring joy to the listeners and I understand that some of you may prefer some other interpretation. I just want to clarify one thing: - Chopin was fragile and feeble. His music was not.
And.. of course.. it’s just perfect. My heart wants to explode. I often think that the third ballade is performed a bit to soft but no, not when played by her. The amount of emotion she’s able to put into her playing is just incredible
In my opinion, there is nothing delicate about her touch in the intimate pieces of Chopin. I am a big Martha fan in respect to what she performs well and Chopin is not always one of those areas. Her playing of the 4th ballade is rushed and bombastic. I don't like it. Her approach to the 2nd movement of the e minor concerto, however, is delicate and poetic. The 4th ballade is not.
@@alexreik424 de gustibus non est disputandum.... my vision may be feeling but not my hearing. Try to be polite and respectful in the future in you cross commenting. Is that too much to ask?
@@rigel48 I would agree that it is epic but there are many intimate moments ... it is truly at the top of what one calls the greater Chopin... a true masterpiece.
So different from the ballades I've been hearing in the preliminary round of Chopin Piano Competition these past few days. Not a single contestant came close to what I just heard
Très belle interprétation, qui me parle, rien n'est parfait en effet mais le bonheur musical en tout cas ne se trouve pas dans la perfection! Merci à l'artiste.
She's obviously among the world's finest pianists alive or dead, there's no doubt at all about that... and there are many points in these ballades and her other interpretations where she does something unique and surprising, like she's extracting some dynamic from certain passages that I'd never noticed before, but that was really there embedded in the music all along. That said, the tremendous scope of her dynamics can be a little... jarring isn't the right word. I don't know, oftentimes her playing just has this liquidity, and I feel like I can't keep hold of it - it's always changing shape and falling into the gaps in my understanding. It can actually become quite frustrating! Come to think of it, many women have this effect on me...
Il n’y a pas de mots qui peuvent décrire ce qu’on sent en écoutant cette merveille de musique ! Pas de mot qui compte quand la musique est si parfaite...
She's a tiger roaring into her climaxes, when minutes befoe she was purring at your ear like a new born kitten.. Her emotional scope within each work is huge, her interpretative skills fully cope with what Chopin wrote. Thank you so much, Max. Heaven on Earth to start my morning ❤️❤️❤️🇦🇷💙🇦🇷
Rachmaninov allegedly said that he wrote the d minor concerto for elephants and MA has certainly that approach to the concerto and works of the Russian school. I am not so certain that Chopin wrote his music with tigers in mind and therein the problem with her overly muscular approach to these intimate masterpieces. She is great at what she does well but, IN MY OPINION, I do not think that the more intimate Chopin is her forte. I would suggest or point out Pior Anderszewkit's rendition of the F minor ballade as a reference. It is not rushed and sublimely poetic. Technique and speeding never overcome the poetry. I do believe that Chopin allegedly said that "an aristocrat never hurries!" ruclips.net/video/DqeXhIzEjVM/видео.html
TJFNYC212 : Piotr Anderszewski is a very interesting pianist, but in the 4th ballade I find that he does a little too much in the search for delicate nuances. At the end it lacks momentum and it becomes mannered.
She is a fine pianist, but I have always wished she would slow down. It sounds like she is playing fast, and rushing her way through the music. (She sounds like this in many of the pieces she plays.) She has some wonderful voicing in many spots, but you almost miss it because she's playing at the speed of light. But what do I know, right. Interestingly enough, she recently performed the Tchaikovsky piano concerto and it was glorious.
@@TJFNYC212 I agree. This is all far too fast. I am glad that now in her older years she doesn't play as fast. But it's a shame she no longer does piano solos. These are actually her best years but her least playing.
@@republiccooper It is indeed a shame that she no longer likes to give recitals. That being said, I have heard her several times in concerto here in LA... but the best part of all these programs have always been the unexpected solo encores that she treats us to after the concerto. Recently I heard in the Ravel G major in which she shines... she owns it... yet the greatest and most moving part of the evening was the 1st, 3rd and last numbers of Schumann's Kinderszenen Op. 15
Eu particularmente gosto muito da forma que ela toca as balada, essa interpretação dela da poesia de Chopin. Mas, apesar disso, a velocidade muda muito ao longo das peças não? Ela fez alguns trechos bem mais vagarosos que nas execuções do Zimmerman, por exemplo.
For some reason not only did Argerich never perform nor record Ballade 2, she would not do it. A very superstitious person - there is a Beethoven concerto she felt the same way about, #2 I think....
Wow, she remains so still during this performance. True focus.
Martha’s playing makes the life of this old girl worth living!
“Simplicity is the final achievement. After one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art.”
― Frédéric Chopin
That is such a beautiful ballad. Argerich is great. Beautiful old recording. There is nothing more to add to that.
All points of view are welcome here. I post these recordings to bring joy to the listeners and I understand that some of you may prefer some other interpretation. I just want to clarify one thing:
- Chopin was fragile and feeble. His music was not.
Max Lima hey max, why do you think she left out the one ballade dedícated to her favorite composer?
Wow..when Martha plays, the whole world just stops completely... and I sometimes forget to breathe...
Thank you
Looks like she forgot to, too. Must have deep lungs to be able to perform like that
And.. of course.. it’s just perfect. My heart wants to explode. I often think that the third ballade is performed a bit to soft but no, not when played by her. The amount of emotion she’s able to put into her playing is just incredible
C'est toujours magnifique, l'art de Madame Argerich!
Such delicacy and touch. The one and only Martha Argerich, my favorite.
In my opinion, there is nothing delicate about her touch in the intimate pieces of Chopin. I am a big Martha fan in respect to what she performs well and Chopin is not always one of those areas. Her playing of the 4th ballade is rushed and bombastic. I don't like it. Her approach to the 2nd movement of the e minor concerto, however, is delicate and poetic. The 4th ballade is not.
TJFNYC212 : are you sure that the 4th ballade is an intimate piece ? It is rather narrative and epic (like the other ballades).
@@TJFNYC212 get ear opration(s?) madman
@@alexreik424 de gustibus non est disputandum.... my vision may be feeling but not my hearing. Try to be polite and respectful in the future in you cross commenting. Is that too much to ask?
@@rigel48 I would agree that it is epic but there are many intimate moments ... it is truly at the top of what one calls the greater Chopin... a true masterpiece.
Martha Argerich si muzica lui Chopin ,in intepretarea sa ,este o imbinare de frumusete,delicatete si sublim!!! Silvia Baciu.
she is my idol for the interpretation of chopin's ballad - she has enriched my life with it
So different from the ballades I've been hearing in the preliminary round of Chopin Piano Competition these past few days. Not a single contestant came close to what I just heard
Simplement sublime .Le tempo, les nuances tout est parfait . De tout mon coeur je vous remercie Madame Argerich
Rare and precious.
No one can play like that only her
I always hear a piece anew when she plays.
Merci !!! C'est si beau , si bien interprété !!! Merci !!!
Thanks for finding this, Max. I've always hoped to come across a recording of Argerich playing the fourth ballade.
Damn, she plays it so fast....reminds me of the great Hoffman. Very 19th century and I love it!!!
Too fast. Especially the third.
Très belle interprétation, qui me parle, rien n'est parfait en effet mais le bonheur musical en tout cas ne se trouve pas dans la perfection! Merci à l'artiste.
Me LLENA EL ALMA Y ME DA FLORES EN MI CABEZA. ❤
She's obviously among the world's finest pianists alive or dead, there's no doubt at all about that... and there are many points in these ballades and her other interpretations where she does something unique and surprising, like she's extracting some dynamic from certain passages that I'd never noticed before, but that was really there embedded in the music all along.
That said, the tremendous scope of her dynamics can be a little... jarring isn't the right word. I don't know, oftentimes her playing just has this liquidity, and I feel like I can't keep hold of it - it's always changing shape and falling into the gaps in my understanding. It can actually become quite frustrating! Come to think of it, many women have this effect on me...
A truly treasure!
La ballade numero 1 est tellement magique !!
Thank you Max for posting these outstanding recordings!
Il n’y a pas de mots qui peuvent décrire ce qu’on sent en écoutant cette merveille de musique ! Pas de mot qui compte quand la musique est si parfaite...
Ferran RC la perfection n’existe pas...
@@theodoredelacroix8408
La perfection, à mon avis, semble loin de l'émotion qui porte à aimer ou pas une oeuvre....
She is one of my idols playing chopin such beautyfull.
What a gift, thank you Max.
Fun fact: These recordings were made before Chopin composed his second ballade!
Then how do you explain the mystery of Chopin composing his 2nd ballade after his 3rd and 4th?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😉
Theses recording were made over a century after his death what 😭
Beaatiful interpretation !
Amazing performance 💕
She's a tiger roaring into her climaxes, when minutes befoe she was purring at your ear like a new born kitten.. Her emotional scope within each work is huge, her interpretative skills fully cope with what Chopin wrote. Thank you so much, Max. Heaven on Earth to start my morning ❤️❤️❤️🇦🇷💙🇦🇷
Rachmaninov allegedly said that he wrote the d minor concerto for elephants and MA has certainly that approach to the concerto and works of the Russian school. I am not so certain that Chopin wrote his music with tigers in mind and therein the problem with her overly muscular approach to these intimate masterpieces. She is great at what she does well but, IN MY OPINION, I do not think that the more intimate Chopin is her forte. I would suggest or point out Pior Anderszewkit's rendition of the F minor ballade as a reference. It is not rushed and sublimely poetic. Technique and speeding never overcome the poetry. I do believe that Chopin allegedly said that "an aristocrat never hurries!" ruclips.net/video/DqeXhIzEjVM/видео.html
Fabelhaft!
@@TJFNYC212
@@mariaceciliamaringonidecar904 splendid if you like loud technical displays....
TJFNYC212 : Piotr Anderszewski is a very interesting pianist, but in the 4th ballade I find that he does a little too much in the search for delicate nuances. At the end it lacks momentum and it becomes mannered.
Sempre tocca il mio cuore con la sua bravura.
Thank you 🙏☺️
She is a fine pianist, but I have always wished she would slow down. It sounds like she is playing fast, and rushing her way through the music. (She sounds like this in many of the pieces she plays.) She has some wonderful voicing in many spots, but you almost miss it because she's playing at the speed of light. But what do I know, right. Interestingly enough, she recently performed the Tchaikovsky piano concerto and it was glorious.
Perfetta
Great technique and tremendous soul. She is unbeatable
I am not certain about her being unbeatable in Chopin. I feel that there are many who play these ballades and as well as she and better.
Lol
Perfecto.
ma partie préférée de la no3 en A c'est la pub pour les chips lays en plein milieu
*A SCREAMING ad* right in the middle of the quietest, most tender part of the first of the three ballades!! *NOT COOL!!*
Didn't she play the F major ballade?
Strange that, as Horowitz, she never recorded the second ballade. Lack of interest ?
strange...?
rigel48 i love the 2nd.
Graham Jeacocke : me too, although I prefer the fourth closely followed by the first. And I also like the third, but less than the others.
@@gjeacocke me too although is it not my favorite... I love them all but in this order 4,3,1 and 2
So much speed. Wow!
too much Chopin said that an aristocrat never hurries....
@@TJFNYC212 I agree. This is all far too fast. I am glad that now in her older years she doesn't play as fast. But it's a shame she no longer does piano solos. These are actually her best years but her least playing.
Merci pour cette grandiose interprétation de la fabuleuse Martha Argerich !
@@republiccooper It is indeed a shame that she no longer likes to give recitals. That being said, I have heard her several times in concerto here in LA... but the best part of all these programs have always been the unexpected solo encores that she treats us to after the concerto. Recently I heard in the Ravel G major in which she shines... she owns it... yet the greatest and most moving part of the evening was the 1st, 3rd and last numbers of Schumann's Kinderszenen Op. 15
Chopin é mais poesia Sra Martha. Não precisa disparar na velocidade.
mas essa coisa de que o sentimento da poesia é lento é um conceito hollywoodiano, não musical.
Eu particularmente gosto muito da forma que ela toca as balada, essa interpretação dela da poesia de Chopin. Mas, apesar disso, a velocidade muda muito ao longo das peças não? Ela fez alguns trechos bem mais vagarosos que nas execuções do Zimmerman, por exemplo.
The fucking 9 dislikes lmfao!
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Рихтер и Аргерих, Аргерих и Рихтер)) Могут ВСЁ
Exactly like Janis Joplin.
For some reason not only did Argerich never perform nor record Ballade 2, she would not do it. A very superstitious person - there is a Beethoven concerto she felt the same way about, #2 I think....
It is 4 she won’t play
@@drrabner47 Yes, I heard that too!
Why though?
@@drrabner47 she played it here though.
@@patinho5589 she has never played 4 and said she never will. She won’t even play it for herself.
I am silent.....
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Why is the piano so out of tune?
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As so many other pianists, she had no clue how to play Chopin.
That’s why she is so famous and won the Chopin competition right?
Can you name one that does?
@@drrabner47 Well, of course. I could name so many that fit the bill - to my liking, at least. Not sure what you have in mind...
@@cedericocosantorini8013 if you can name so many that fit the bill why don’t you name just one of them. That’s what I had in mind.
Thank you 🙏☺️
Thank you 🙏☺️