The Angel GT is mostly about canyon carving and weekend warriors - just for more miles. I wouldn't really call it a touring tire, though it does have excellent wet grip. If you are only doing one track day a year, I'd choose this over the Rosso II. -CK
Finally got these tires put on my 2013 R1. I really like them. You gotta warm them up a bit before you really push them but I've had no problems at all. To everyone that thinks these are a bad idea for a R1 give them a try. Unless you're dragging knee everywhere you go these are a great street tire.
"Pirelli Angel GT is the crowning jewel of the Pirelli sport touring range and the natural descendant of Angel ST, a tyre with multiple victories under its belt in comparison tests conducted by the most prestigious international motorcycling magazines, as well as holder of 7 duration world records. Compared to its predecessor, Angel GT increases mileage by 30%, reduces the braking distance by about 1 metre (at a speed of 75 kph), also improving grip and handling in the wet, and, even more importantly, manages to maintain these characteristics at a high level over time. Pirelli sums up this final characteristic with the formula “Performance Mileage”. Here is the final result of the comparison, which places Angel GT at the top of the list. 1. Pirelli Angel GT 2. Metzeler Roadtec Z8 Interact 2. Bridgestone T30 4. Continental Road Attack 2 4. Dunlop Roadsmart 2 4. Michelin Pilot Road 3
These have been the best tires I've purchased. I have them on an SV1000s, not a sport tourer. Grip is reduced substantially when cold. Takes time to warm them up, but then they're great!
A Spec rear tires feature a reinforced, 2-ply carcass. Basically, this is meant for the heavier touring bikes that would take loads of luggage, plus a passenger. -CK
This is the perfect comparison to the PR3. Both are available with a re-inforced rear tire for heavier bikes, if you are looking to tow a bit more weight with bags and/or a passenger. I have the PR3s on a VFR800 and love them, but a friend is using the Pirelli Angel GTs and has had nothing but good things to say as well. If I had to choose, I'd probably recommend Michelin as slightly better for wet grip and the Pirelli better for dry sport grip. -CK
I have the Angels on my 01 r6. I'm not sure if they are ST or Gt, but they have lasted me about 5k miles so far with life left in them. Might stick with the tire again when I need a replacement, but still not sure. Thought I'd give me review on how my tires were doing. So far I love them though...never had a problem yet.
I got 8k miles on my ST rear, and 15k miles and counting on the front (tread wore down smooth one on side at 13k). I have the GT on the rear currently and the ST still on the front. The GT has just over 7k miles on it. No flat spot, still plenty of tread left. I did notice the GT has wear indicator nubs whereas the ST did not. I'm still far from them on the GT rear, which is impressive since I had the ST when it was below freezing then into spring, and the GT has been in full summer heat!
My Angle ST have 7000mi and barely starting to flatten, I am not a super aggressive rider but super impressed with how well it works when you get stuck in a New Mexico downpour. Excellent feel in wet turns...will deff go for these GTs when I need a new rear. ;-)
I bought these a few weeks ago. for my CBR500. For the first few days in comparison to the stock Dunlops, they felt stiff and the bike felt 100kgs heavier when initially turning into corners (though once the bike was leaned over onto that softer compound edge it was so much more confidence-inspiring). After they were scrubbed in properly, though, the centre of the tyre really helped the bike turn into a nice and flickable machine again :} Going to take them to a track soon and scrub off them chicken strips properly, see how they hold up. I really only bought them for commuting longevity but surely for a first-time track ride they should treat me well. Excited to see how many kms I get with these!
RevZilla Keeping you posted! The tyres went great on the track. Scraping pegs in tight turns, hanging off on the long high-speed sweepers, these tyres heated up quick and stuck like glue. Lots of little rubber balls on the sidewalls, check out my FB photos if you want :D facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.627511107374985.1073741829.594065424052887&type=3
That might make your tires wear a bit more evenly, as the Rosso II will wear faster than the Angel GT. Considering that rear tires generally wear faster than front, you might get the best of both there. -CK
For recent bikes: I've been a 2CT guy on my 650R I've been a Q2 guy on my first Triumph 955i Now I think I am going with the Angel GT..... more mileage, just a little less sporty I can deal with that.
Yo NGH. I just replied on the PR3 video with my advice to go for the Pirelli Angel GT over the PR3 for your type of riding. You can always give our Gear Geeks a call if you want to discuss in more detail. ~Ali
Revzilla gives great comments on all there products they are in the selling business. It would be nice to have a breakdown of what tires are good in the wet cold conditions compared to the hot dry conditions.
I generally recommend Metzeler for cold and wet conditions: the Roadtec 01 for sport touring and the M7 RR for sport riding. They're also good for hot, dry conditions. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-roadtec-01-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-sportec-m7-rr-tires
I generally recommend Metzeler for cold and wet conditions: the Roadtec 01 for sport touring and the M7 RR for sport riding. They're also good for hot, dry conditions. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-roadtec-01-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-sportec-m7-rr-tires
Hi there ,my ST last for 20.000km of sport touring trips (on 929) , and now i trying GT for now just 2.000 km on wet ,dry tarmac and must say its same like ST - dont feel any differences ,but we will see around september ,cheers
Ha! I'm stuck between the same two! Running PR3s on my VFR800 currently and debating a set of Angel GT tires. I think the Michelin has a better edge on wet traction, but the Angel GT could probably a track day a bit better. Both have excellent mileage. -CK
RevZilla hi Brian I have also vfr800 vtec and this week I will buy tyre. I don't use bike rainy days. I like cornering. I do around 200 km each weekend generally I prefer crooked roads. pr4 or angle? which one you suggest for me.? also I'm planning to put angel for rear and battlax S21 for front because it is dual compound. how is this idea ?
I know this video is old but i just purchased a pair 1st i would like to say are Made in China (yes i know Pirelli been boutgh by Chinece company) 2nd I have a question to make ,why the front tyre side wall is stiffer from the rear tyre? is this normal? i though rear tyre is more stiff Many thanks
I am nearing replacement of my OEM's. I have a '15 BMW K1600GTL. I am more interested in performance (wet & dry) than I am in mileage. I see lots of reviews of tires, but no manufacturer comparisons. Seems like most folks go with the Michelin P4's, but I'm not sure if that's for performance or longevity. So, I'm looking for advice on what's a good next tire to try. I am fairly aggressive and love riding in the mountains. I also tend to ride more than I want to in the rain... so I need a tire that runs well wet. Suggestions?
charles garalis People go with the PR4's for longevity and wet / dry performance. We highly recommend them. The Angel GT's are on par with the PR4's in all categories. -HVB
Great review...will go with these. I ride a 2011 Honda CBR600RR...commute 40 miles one way every day...hot and cold. How do I know if i need the A Spec or not? Thanks.
Hi, just wondering which Tyre would be better, in the handling in the wet and dry, not just grip, but also turn in and line holding. The Angel Gt or the Z8. I ride a R1150RT all the time and all weathers Marc
Hey Anthony, quick question. Watching the reviews of both Rosso II and Angel GT, I feel like these two tires have a lot in common - allowing performance and providing longevity. Now for a guy who goes to track only one day in a year but still rides a 1000cc supersport like myself, which one of the two is a better fit? Or am I reading this review incorrectly and Angel GT is more for sport touring rather than accommodating supersport bikes? Thanks a bunch
You're right on the fence. If you ever ride two up or carry luggage, it'd be worth going with the A-spec. If you never carry a passenger or luggage, then you could go with the standard version. -DrewZilla
I'm in a similar situation. Aprilia Tuono Factory 1000 Vtwin. What are your thoughts on Angel GT rear with a Rosso II front? I commute on my bike, weekend rides, trips to the mountains and maybe 2 trackdays a year. Rosso II on the rear didn't make it 2,500 miles for me. Currently running a Q2 rear and due for new tires very soon. Thanks,
great video thanks a lot. I have a Ducati 1098 had M5's on it and want to change. Angel GT or Rosso 2 ? would i notice a degrade in the turns with the GT compared to the M5's? Thanks a lot Mark
Mark Grant The M5 is more aggressive than both the Rosso II and Angel GT, so yes, you would have slightly less grip with those two Pirellis compared to the M5. If you've never met the limit in grip of the M5 tires and you want more longevity, go for Angel GT and see if you like them. -DrewZilla
I am between the Pirelli Angel GT and the Michelin Pilot Road 3 lines (160s). Any advice? I am a new rider on a 09 Suzuki Gladius. I plan to use my bike as a daily commuter/ weekend bike. I am 5'9" 170, if it matters. :)
How do you think these would wear on torque bikes? I have a Buell XB12S as my commuter and have edged the Pilots that I bought the bike with. Mostly interstate riding and I really don't lean or throttle too hard...often. Thank you!
***** I had the GTs on my KTM1290 and was very happy with it and got around 6500km from them . I just put a PR4 on the back and so far I am not liking it. I was riding hardish out of a coulpe of corners and it let go a little and I don't like the way it drops into a slow corner, it made me think the back was slipping out on me a little. Now, in saying this its only done 100km so maybe needs more scrubbing? My riding sound the opposite to yours so the PR4 maybe good for you. I am thinking of selling my PR4 and going back to the Angle.
SjwNz08 The Angel gt was best sport touring tyres tested by Motorrad germany, and the PR3 was the last. I had the PR3 before, same with PR4, it has too much grooves on it, it is good on wet, but terrible on dry, especially hard braking, be careful, the front tire will not bite the floor, it will screech and slide, and riding on hot roads, it will deform, you need high PSI, 42 when new, too low will make it squirm like Jelly, but the PR2 is still good, I will try the angel gt.
Hey Anthony I'm on the fence btwn the PR3 and this Angel GT I'm on a Ninja 650r... I was sold on the PR3 until I got to the forums and heard they loose grip and get hard about 2/3 thru the tread life... your thoughts? I might make the switch to these GT if I can expect the same mileage.
Revzilla, I'm a commuter and do several long trips a year on a 12 Ninja 650 (close to 6000 miles a year). I'm split between the Angel GTs and the Diablo Rosso 2's, which of these would be more confidence inspiring under aggressive riding? Assuming the Diablo Rosso 2s are significantly "stickier" are they worth the loss in longevity? Thank you.
Fernando Luna The Rosso IIs aren't significantly stickier than the Angel GTs. They're only slightly "stickier". I recommend getting the Angel GTs and seeing if you reach the limits of the traction. If you find you want more traction, then get the Rosso IIs after that. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla see, I'm coming from the Rosso IIs on my zx10r, but looking for my longevity without losing much, if any, corner traction.. I ride defensively aggressive so I've never actually scraped knee pad, but I want to have confidence the tire can handle it.
Hi! I have on my vfr 750 the rosso II and they are great, but now I'm going to change tyres. Considering that I have only 3500 miles in a year, but often two up! on a vfr, would you suggest me the angel gt? And what about considering also roadsmart I or metz z8? thank you for your great job!
What kind of bike do you have? What's your ridings style, chill or aggressive? I put a set on my GSXR 1000 and I only got 6000 miles out of the rear with about half the time up in the canyons.
Hi , which tires are best puncher resistance? Which is better for crappy roads and bit of slush and rain infested broken roads?, so how is angle GT given my requirements. I am looking forward to your answer and appreciate as it very important to me. I have a 400cc street nacked bike. I presently have Metzler M7RR but had 2 punchers in 4000 km.
There isn't much difference in puncture resistance honestly. The Angel GT tires _might_ resist punctures slightly better, but both the M7 RR and Angel GT tires are very good tires for you. -DrewZilla
I ride a 18'z14r. I basically use my bike for commuting. No track days but will take a curve every now and then. I ride 2 up every once in a while. I'm 200 lbs geared up. Would you recommend the st or gt?
I'm stuck between these, the PP4's, and the Q3's. My riding consists of mostly flat highway riding and as many twisties i can find (not too often). I would describe my style as moderately aggressive especially with cornering but like i said before is'nt too often.
The PP3s are aggressive street and track day tires. The Pirelli Angel GTs are sport tires. They will last much longer on the highway and still perform well in the twisties. -Hi-Viz Brian
I put a pair of Angels on my Moto Guzzi V11 Le-Mans, now what i did notice, with the deep tread blocks on the rear tire and putting the power on early out of the turns i felt the rear squirming and moving around. You eventually get used to it but i wonder how bad it is on a super bike with 180 bhp at the wheel as my Gussi puts out about half of that...
RevZilla Hi Hi-Viz, i have about 500 miles as they're only on the bike so the sqirming might clear as the miles go on. I use a pair of Maxxis sports the last time, they where like a cut slick for the road..1800 miles killed them.. ]Martin.
Im having them on my 2014 Zx6r and im having no real problems with grip, even now in winter with wet roads and 5°C. Last summer i had them on my then Daytona 675 and they worked perfectly, even after multiple fast passes on my favourite mountain road.
I've been thinking about putting these on my R1. Been going crazy over which tire to get between these and the Rosso 2's. To much straight line riding is killing my centers. Only getting 2,000 to 2,500 miles out of my dunlop q2's.
Jim G Go for the Angel GT. If you find yourself wanting more grip after using the Angel GTs (doubtful since they have great grip), then maybe go for the Rosso II. -DrewZilla
Plenty of grip in these puppies more than enough for any rider on the street. I have these on an fz1 fazer plus 90kg rider that's 300kg + and compared to michelin road pilot 2 turn in quicker with no effort other than keeping the bike stable as these tyres wanna go down quicker than a prostitute lol.
Just be careful on the first few corners it'll feel strange but effortless mine are 190x55x17 felt like i was gonna drop the bike.But that's just the tyre shape.
I don't buy tires on impulse. So I keep looking. Got all winter. Perelli's were always good tires. KelvinSmoke got the right idea. You'all just got to give it up and decipher what is real and what is hearsay today. I just accidentally clicked this, cause, I figured, "how can I go wrong watching a video with a tire called angel." Mathematically, I spend 25% more than a cheap tire, to get over 100% more mileage, that's safer when caught in the rain. Its a no brainer. I'm sold. No really, aren't all the real tires you see in the real world already bald? You should get 10.000 miles.
How do these compare to the Dunlop roadsmart 2 tires? I have a Ninja 650, with rs 2 tires on it right now. They work okay, but I am interested to see how these work as well.
stampedfish In German magazine Motorrad's 2014 tire test, the Angel GT beat out the RS2 in both wet and dry grip. The Angel GT also warms up a bit quicker. -DrewZilla
Was thinking of putting Pirelli angel on front of my 2003 gsxr 600 Is it better overall traction wise then pilot power 3 No track for me just work and long rides all street and highways Tons of corners around where I live
The PP3s have better dry traction but, won't last as long. If you're extremely aggressive, I'd go with the PP3s. If not, the Angel GTs are a great sport option. -Hi-Viz Brian
i have fjr 1300 currently running with angels st ,have done 9000klm thinking to replace them with the GT ones what i like to ask you on the rear tyre the ST seems more oval seems more ''quick'' when i lean the bike or seems make the bike feel less heavy (i don't know the English word how else to describe it) and the GT seems more flat is this better ? regards
I don't think I would use them for a wet track day. On the street they're fine but, dragging knees I'd recommend a rain race tire. -Hi-Viz Brian bit.ly/Osde6v
Hey @revzilla I ride a suzuki hayabusa would this be a good touring tire for me if not can you recommend one pls... looking for more millage... and also grip. Got 6000 millage out of my pilot 2ct.
Hey Anthony. I just had the Pirelli Angel GTs installed on my bike. Maybe a stupid question, but are they directional? Looks like the shop that installed my tires (Adrenaline, Victoria, BC) installed front backwards so that tire grooves channel water from outside to the center. Although there are no directional arrows on tire that I see, it looks like a stupid mistake. What do you think?
RevZilla Really? Well I'm getting front wheel reversed anyways. Sometimes common sense must prevail. Check out the buzz in the reviews. I'm obviously not the only one to think that Pirelli's out to lunch. Recommended set up on front wheel is clearly & plainly hazardous.
yoginada I wouldn't do that if I were you. The rear tire and front tire have different tread patterns because the rear is designed for acceleration while the front is designed for maximum braking. Below is a picture of a few bikes in our parking lot. All of their front tires have tread patterns that look backwards. However, they are correct. -Hi-Viz Brian Also, read this - www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=624213 * i.imgur.com/Vdi7iRU.jpg * i.imgur.com/gn2FOrs.jpg * i.imgur.com/NkmqW9B.jpg * i.imgur.com/Z0ov1Wq.jpg * i.imgur.com/GAzPBiQ.jpg
RevZilla OK. Many thanks Anthony. My mistake. It still does not make sense to me. I would have thought that it would be most important that water is dispersed from front wheel, (and traction & braking of course). Thanks for taking time to try & explain. But I defer to you experts as being more knowlegeable in these matters. I must admit that I had some concerns regarding the stability of reversing the front wheel tread, (dangerous experiment?), but the bike shop refused to reverse the tire for me. And I noticed today on many other bikes how the tread pattern was also reversed on the front wheel. It's still very illogical to me.
How would you say this compares to the PR3? I ride a Concours 14 and need tyres soon. I've only had the OEM Bridgestones on this but they don't last very long and are less than confidence-inspiring. Anyone run these on a bigger ST bike? How do they handle in right tight, technical terrain?
I have PP3 tires on my 2012 ninja 1000 and my rear tire is about 70% worn now but the front tire still looks pretty good. Would it be okay to run an angel gt on the rear with the PP3 on the front? are the angel gt's sporty enough to keep me happy? i live on the mountains so the majority of my riding is in the curves. I ran PR2 tires on my old bike years ago and thought they were not very sporty at all.
mrphotomanTIM No, we do not recommend mixing tires like that. If you want to keep the PP3 front, you really should stay with a PP3 rear. If you want Pirellis, you should get both front and rear. The Angel GTs are sportier than the old PR2s, but you may consider Rosso IIs instead. They're halfway between the PP3s and Angel GTs. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-diablo-rosso-ii-rear-tires
mrphotomanTIM Well, for me I have no problem with that, I had done it many times, and many people had done that too, just be slow and careful initially, and maybe more careful when it is wet and watch how it behaves. Don't get the PR3/4, they are suck, squirm, deform, cup in... PR 2 is much better, and Angel GT may be slightly better, or Metzeler Sportec M7-RR could be much better, and good on mileage and on wet road too, better than the Michelin PP3, Dulop Q3 will set you on rail or the best Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP V2. Well, I will go with M7 front and angel gt rear, enough for aggressive street riding.
i went with another pp3. thanks for the info though. i may go with a set of angels next year but i do a track day once or twice a summer so i am worried it would not be sticky enough for me. i have had a few instances where the pp3 has slid on me though. i actually had it happen this weekend but the road was a little damp so i think that is what caused it. I tried the pr2 tires with my old bike a few years ago and hated them.
I have a question, my front tire needs to be changed but my back doesn't need too. I currently am running Dunlop Q3's front and rear. Is it safe to have pirelli angel gt on front while still running Q3 in the back? I ride an r6, and mostly commute, but I still like to ride aggressively every now and then through out the week. Thank you.
Eloy Cruz I wouldn't touch that setup with a 10ft pole (okay, maybe an 8ft pole). The Q3 is incredibly soft and sticky on the sides for street tires, while the Angel GT is "decent" for mildly aggressive twisty riding. With that setup, I foresee you going into a turn use to the performance of your Q3's (front and rear) and the front Angel GT washing out, while the rear Q3 sticks and pushes the front straight. It's doable, but I don't recommend it at all. -Hi-Viz Brian
Hey mate heard these don't like very hot weather can you comment on that? Also what Milage can I expect out of these at a rough estimate as I ride 25,000ks a year (street triple)
In our experience, they actually do ok in hot weather. As for longevity, you might expect 12,000-16,000 kilometers or even more depending on conditions. -DrewZilla
Anyone know how the profile and milage of these compare to the Rosso II? I really like the Rosso II but if I can get more milage and similar feel I would be all for it.
Hi I live in Brazil, I have a KTM Duke 200 2017 (F 110/70 ZR17 / R 150/60 ZR17 ) with Rosso 2 on it and I am not an aggressive rider on lean angle (do not have track or long experience with fast corners), I am aggressive on traffic going fast withs cars jammed but I would like to have a tire that can help with my angle insecurity but last a good milage. I found rosso 2 asking/pushing for more during strong curves... can I go right with Angel GT 150/70 on the rear and 120/70 at the front ? or I have others options ?
Those sizes would likely fit just fine, but I would stick to the Rosso IIs you have. While it is an aggressive tire, it will last a long time because the Dukes are so light. I had a pair on my 390 Duke and they lasted a long time, all while giving me better grip than sport touring tires could. The only way to combat your insecurity about leaning is to keep leaning. I think the Rosso II will be your best option for that. -Kraus-e
Thank you Kraus ! I will go with Rosso II one more time, this is my first bike ever, never had any motorcycle in my life (31yrs), always semi-pro cyclist ..now need to lear how to ride a motorcycle. Thank you one more time.
I'm coming from the Rosso IIs, but looking for my longevity without losing much, if any, corner traction.. I ride defensively aggressive so I've never actually scraped knee pad, but I want to have confidence the tire can handle it.
+Garretto LaFantastic I think the Angel GTs could work well for you. If you find that you need more traction (probably unlikely), you can always go back to Rosso IIs or perhaps try the Rosso IIIs. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla yeah, so I got them from your site... I got them properly scrubbed in now (over 600 miles). Lemme tell you I won't be going back to the Rosso IIs. Going my normal sweeper speeds there's no lack of traction and no loss of confidence as compared to the Rosso IIs. I spent enough time on the sidewall I feel confident I don't need to go back to the Rosso IIs. I felt during the sweepers there was plenty of traction left that I could tackle the turns a lot faster than my normal speeds and not worry about them slipping out.
hi Brian and everyone I have also vfr800 vtec and tomorrow I will buy a new tyre. I don't use bike in rainy days. I like cornering. I do around 200 km each week. generally I prefer crooked roads. pr4 or angle gt? which one you suggest for me.? also I'm planning to put angel for rear and battlax s21for front because s21 front is dual compound. how is this idea ?
Mismatching tires is a bad idea. I recommend that you either put the S21 on both the front and rear or you put the Angel GT on both the front and the rear. We do not recommend mixing tire brands. -DrewZilla
RevZilla I don't have the abs that's why I'm looking for soft tire for front. can you please shortly explain why I shouldn't use different tires. I really need reason for this because it seems logical for me.
Our very own Lemmy wrote an in depth article all about tires, and here's an excerpt for you: _"There are rare instances where the OEM tires are mixed brands, but other than those exceptions, RevZilla recommends replacing tires with the tire manufacturer’s recommended match front or rear. Often, a manufacturer will recommend a different model of tire for front and rear, and we will follow that recommendation. Unless a bike was equipped with two different tires from the factory, we do not recommend mixing tire brands because differences in tire handling and performance can cause an otherwise well-behaved motorcycle to act in an unpredictable, unsafe manner. Tire manufacturers engineered their tires to work with a matched partner. You paid for all that engineering, so why not use it?"_ Hope this explanation helps. You don't have to listen to us, but we think you should. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/motorcycle-tires-101-guide
One reason of many is because the front and rear tires on some, if not all, tires work as an essential pair. Meaning the beneficial qualities of one tire will be negated or significantly reduced when paired with a mismatched tire. Each tire is designed based off of the other tire. For example: a rear tire design might not expel enough water for it to be safe or work properly, so they designed the front tire to expel more water than a typical tire. Hence, now they work as a pair. On a mismatched pair, one tire may heat up significantly faster than the other tire, or one tire may have good traction on certain road conditions and the other may not, or one tire may have good traction in cold weather and the other one may not. There are many reasons why you shouldn't mismatch tires, unless, like Lemmy said: If it's recommended by the manufacturer. I hope this helps you decide. Personally, I hate dual compound front tires. The sides wear faster than the middle. Causing a elongated tire which is not good.
I am looking for a tire that works well in cold and wet invironment, I ride a CBF600 touring bike, at the moment with Bridgestone T023's, and I'm thinking about either these Angel GT's, the Bridgestone T30's or the Micheling PR4. Anyone have experience in bad weather with these tires ? Thank you!
If you liked BT023, and you want to keep in Brigdestone (brand you know), you can go to T30, is even a little better than BT023. For best wet tire, the PR4 were the best i had. For dry, Angel GT is probably S-T tire i've tried in terms of stability and grip. They give good feedback too. I just don't like the profile of them very much (maybe because i'm used to Michelin's agility).
I live in the Netherlands... so lots of rain. :D So maybe I'll switch to the PR4's next time I need new tires... Nothing wrong with switching brand every now and then to keep me objective... Thank you for your input!
Most people like the quick turn-in, good grip, and better than average tire life. All of that is improved with the Angel GT II. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires
Hakim Said You'll likely get more mileage with commuting while still getting great corner grip with the Angels compared to the T30s, so I'd go for Pirelli. -DrewZilla
"A Spec" rear tires feature a reinforced, 2-ply carcass for heavy touring bikes. "D Spec" rear tires are specifically designed for the Ducati Multistrada 1200. -DrewZilla
I purchased the Perelli Angel GT sport touring tires for my 2014 Honda NC700X DCT. Do you think I can get 15,000 miles out of these tires or more ? Previously the tires I had on my Honda NC700X DCT were the Michelin Pilot Road 4's and with those tires I actually got 15,000 miles out of them but they were a little more costly.
The Angel GT is mostly about canyon carving and weekend warriors - just for more miles. I wouldn't really call it a touring tire, though it does have excellent wet grip. If you are only doing one track day a year, I'd choose this over the Rosso II. -CK
Finally got these tires put on my 2013 R1. I really like them. You gotta warm them up a bit before you really push them but I've had no problems at all. To everyone that thinks these are a bad idea for a R1 give them a try. Unless you're dragging knee everywhere you go these are a great street tire.
+Jim G I can say the same for the ZX10R now that I've got over 600 miles on a set... I don't drag knee so I can agree with your statement 100%.
What kinda miles you get out of them? I'll be putting them on an r1 also
"Pirelli Angel GT is the crowning jewel of the Pirelli sport touring range and the natural descendant of Angel ST, a tyre with multiple victories under its belt in comparison tests conducted by the most prestigious international motorcycling magazines, as well as holder of 7 duration world records. Compared to its predecessor, Angel GT increases mileage by 30%, reduces the braking distance by about 1 metre (at a speed of 75 kph), also improving grip and handling in the wet, and, even more importantly, manages to maintain these characteristics at a high level over time. Pirelli sums up this final characteristic with the formula “Performance Mileage”. Here is the final result of the comparison, which places Angel GT at the top of the list.
1. Pirelli Angel GT
2. Metzeler Roadtec Z8 Interact
2. Bridgestone T30
4. Continental Road Attack 2
4. Dunlop Roadsmart 2
4. Michelin Pilot Road 3
Thanks Revzilla and Neil for the advice. You guys nailed it.
I've heard more positive feedback on the Angel GT, personally. Thinking about switching from my Pilot Road 3 tires to these when its time. -CK
These have been the best tires I've purchased. I have them on an SV1000s, not a sport tourer. Grip is reduced substantially when cold. Takes time to warm them up, but then they're great!
A Spec rear tires feature a reinforced, 2-ply carcass. Basically, this is meant for the heavier touring bikes that would take loads of luggage, plus a passenger. -CK
RevZilla Do you think A spec is necessary for a ZX14R, rarely having passengers or luggage. I barely make 190 with gear if that...
I ordered the Angel GT's late Wed. night and received them Fri at 1:30 pm. Thank you Revzilla!
This is the perfect comparison to the PR3. Both are available with a re-inforced rear tire for heavier bikes, if you are looking to tow a bit more weight with bags and/or a passenger. I have the PR3s on a VFR800 and love them, but a friend is using the Pirelli Angel GTs and has had nothing but good things to say as well. If I had to choose, I'd probably recommend Michelin as slightly better for wet grip and the Pirelli better for dry sport grip. -CK
I have the Angels on my 01 r6. I'm not sure if they are ST or Gt, but they have lasted me about 5k miles so far with life left in them. Might stick with the tire again when I need a replacement, but still not sure. Thought I'd give me review on how my tires were doing. So far I love them though...never had a problem yet.
I got 8k miles on my ST rear, and 15k miles and counting on the front (tread wore down smooth one on side at 13k). I have the GT on the rear currently and the ST still on the front. The GT has just over 7k miles on it. No flat spot, still plenty of tread left. I did notice the GT has wear indicator nubs whereas the ST did not. I'm still far from them on the GT rear, which is impressive since I had the ST when it was below freezing then into spring, and the GT has been in full summer heat!
My Angle ST have 7000mi and barely starting to flatten, I am not a super aggressive rider but super impressed with how well it works when you get stuck in a New Mexico downpour. Excellent feel in wet turns...will deff go for these GTs when I need a new rear. ;-)
I bought these a few weeks ago. for my CBR500. For the first few days in comparison to the stock Dunlops, they felt stiff and the bike felt 100kgs heavier when initially turning into corners (though once the bike was leaned over onto that softer compound edge it was so much more confidence-inspiring). After they were scrubbed in properly, though, the centre of the tyre really helped the bike turn into a nice and flickable machine again :} Going to take them to a track soon and scrub off them chicken strips properly, see how they hold up. I really only bought them for commuting longevity but surely for a first-time track ride they should treat me well. Excited to see how many kms I get with these!
Hagz500R Great review! Keep us posted. -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla Keeping you posted! The tyres went great on the track. Scraping pegs in tight turns, hanging off on the long high-speed sweepers, these tyres heated up quick and stuck like glue. Lots of little rubber balls on the sidewalls, check out my FB photos if you want :D
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Depends on the batch, they produce in several locations. The last time I saw this printed on a tire, it was from Spain. -CK
That might make your tires wear a bit more evenly, as the Rosso II will wear faster than the Angel GT. Considering that rear tires generally wear faster than front, you might get the best of both there. -CK
Curious, did you get the A-Spec or the standard? -CK
I put a set of these on my C14 (got them from RevZilla also) and LOVE them. I'm really, really happy with how these work.
For recent bikes:
I've been a 2CT guy on my 650R
I've been a Q2 guy on my first Triumph 955i
Now I think I am going with the Angel GT..... more mileage, just a little less sporty I can deal with that.
My vote goes to the Angel GT. -CK
These Pirelli Angel GT are a great pick for that type of riding! Alternatively, I'd recommend the Michelin Pilot Power 3. -CK
If you own a sport tourer, this is your tire. 10/10
Yo NGH. I just replied on the PR3 video with my advice to go for the Pirelli Angel GT over the PR3 for your type of riding. You can always give our Gear Geeks a call if you want to discuss in more detail. ~Ali
Revzilla gives great comments on all there products they are in the selling business. It would be nice to have a breakdown of what tires are good in the wet cold conditions compared to the hot dry conditions.
I generally recommend Metzeler for cold and wet conditions: the Roadtec 01 for sport touring and the M7 RR for sport riding. They're also good for hot, dry conditions. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-roadtec-01-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-sportec-m7-rr-tires
I generally recommend Metzeler for cold and wet conditions: the Roadtec 01 for sport touring and the M7 RR for sport riding. They're also good for hot, dry conditions. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-roadtec-01-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/metzeler-sportec-m7-rr-tires
Hi there ,my ST last for 20.000km of sport touring trips (on 929) , and now i trying GT for now just 2.000 km on wet ,dry tarmac and must say its same like ST - dont feel any differences ,but we will see around september ,cheers
How did the gt's go? Any better then the St? How was the mileage?
Ha! I'm stuck between the same two! Running PR3s on my VFR800 currently and debating a set of Angel GT tires. I think the Michelin has a better edge on wet traction, but the Angel GT could probably a track day a bit better. Both have excellent mileage. -CK
RevZilla hi Brian I have also vfr800 vtec and this week I will buy tyre. I don't use bike rainy days. I like cornering. I do around 200 km each weekend generally I prefer crooked roads. pr4 or angle? which one you suggest for me.? also I'm planning to put angel for rear and battlax S21 for front because it is dual compound. how is this idea ?
I red all comments. angel rear looks like better. I'm worried about front. it is not dual compound. is that means it is on the hard or soft side?
I know this video is old but i just purchased a pair
1st i would like to say are Made in China
(yes i know Pirelli been boutgh by Chinece company)
2nd I have a question to make ,why the front tyre side wall is stiffer from the rear tyre? is this normal?
i though rear tyre is more stiff
Many thanks
Wow! Tää oli hyvä video! Angel g on ihan jonne!
Sweet, dude. Thanks for sharing the hands-on experience. -CK
My Monster came with these as standard :) brilliant tyres.
I am nearing replacement of my OEM's. I have a '15 BMW K1600GTL. I am more interested in performance (wet & dry) than I am in mileage. I see lots of reviews of tires, but no manufacturer comparisons. Seems like most folks go with the Michelin P4's, but I'm not sure if that's for performance or longevity. So, I'm looking for advice on what's a good next tire to try. I am fairly aggressive and love riding in the mountains. I also tend to ride more than I want to in the rain... so I need a tire that runs well wet. Suggestions?
charles garalis People go with the PR4's for longevity and wet / dry performance. We highly recommend them. The Angel GT's are on par with the PR4's in all categories. -HVB
Just shy of 7000 miles on a Concours 1400 on these tires. I'm a lifer.
Though they need to be replaced now.
Great review...will go with these. I ride a 2011 Honda CBR600RR...commute 40 miles one way every day...hot and cold. How do I know if i need the A Spec or not? Thanks.
+Eric Terry The A-spec version with its heavier carcass is only for heavier touring bikes, so you would want the regular version. -DrewZilla
My own biggest question... Will I outride these?
Maybe. Maybe not. They aren't supersport tires, but they have surprisingly good grip. -DrewZilla
Hi, just wondering which Tyre would be better, in the handling in the wet and dry, not just grip, but also turn in and line holding. The Angel Gt or the Z8. I ride a R1150RT all the time and all weathers
Marc
What percentage of the tire is harder and what percentage is softer?
Hey Anthony, quick question.
Watching the reviews of both Rosso II and Angel GT, I feel like these two tires have a lot in common - allowing performance and providing longevity.
Now for a guy who goes to track only one day in a year but still rides a 1000cc supersport like myself, which one of the two is a better fit?
Or am I reading this review incorrectly and Angel GT is more for sport touring rather than accommodating supersport bikes?
Thanks a bunch
Great tyres!
Your videos are so good I wish you has a uk store I would come to you for all my gear
Brilliant bike! Vroom... -CK
Quick question. 15 Ninja 1000 with around 520 wet weight plus I am 240 all geared. Should I go for A spec or just go with the standard?
Thank you.
You're right on the fence. If you ever ride two up or carry luggage, it'd be worth going with the A-spec. If you never carry a passenger or luggage, then you could go with the standard version. -DrewZilla
My Hayabusa 12000 km with this tyres....and I am going again with GT
Thanks! That would be helpful to fix, wouldn't it? -CK
I'm in a similar situation. Aprilia Tuono Factory 1000 Vtwin. What are your thoughts on Angel GT rear with a Rosso II front?
I commute on my bike, weekend rides, trips to the mountains and maybe 2 trackdays a year. Rosso II on the rear didn't make it 2,500 miles for me. Currently running a Q2 rear and due for new tires very soon. Thanks,
great video thanks a lot. I have a Ducati 1098 had M5's on it and want to change. Angel GT or Rosso 2 ? would i notice a degrade in the turns with the GT compared to the M5's?
Thanks a lot Mark
Mark Grant The M5 is more aggressive than both the Rosso II and Angel GT, so yes, you would have slightly less grip with those two Pirellis compared to the M5. If you've never met the limit in grip of the M5 tires and you want more longevity, go for Angel GT and see if you like them. -DrewZilla
I am between the Pirelli Angel GT and the Michelin Pilot Road 3 lines (160s). Any advice? I am a new rider on a 09 Suzuki Gladius. I plan to use my bike as a daily commuter/ weekend bike. I am 5'9" 170, if it matters. :)
How do you think these would wear on torque bikes? I have a Buell XB12S as my commuter and have edged the Pilots that I bought the bike with. Mostly interstate riding and I really don't lean or throttle too hard...often. Thank you!
***** I think these would be a great option. The more durable center compound will really let you eat up highway miles. -DrewZilla
RevZilla So I just discovered the Michelin PR4...thoughts?
***** I had the GTs on my KTM1290 and was very happy with it and got around 6500km from them . I just put a PR4 on the back and so far I am not liking it. I was riding hardish out of a coulpe of corners and it let go a little and I don't like the way it drops into a slow corner, it made me think the back was slipping out on me a little.
Now, in saying this its only done 100km so maybe needs more scrubbing? My riding sound the opposite to yours so the PR4 maybe good for you. I am thinking of selling my PR4 and going back to the Angle.
***** My Brother and a friend has the PR4s on there bikes and both of them are riding Yamaha MT01s
1600cc V twin things.
SjwNz08 The Angel gt was best sport touring tyres tested by Motorrad germany, and the PR3 was the last. I had the PR3 before, same with PR4, it has too much grooves on it, it is good on wet, but terrible on dry, especially hard braking, be careful, the front tire will not bite the floor, it will screech and slide, and riding on hot roads, it will deform, you need high PSI, 42 when new, too low will make it squirm like Jelly, but the PR2 is still good, I will try the angel gt.
Hey Anthony I'm on the fence btwn the PR3 and this Angel GT I'm on a Ninja 650r... I was sold on the PR3 until I got to the forums and heard they loose grip and get hard about 2/3 thru the tread life... your thoughts? I might make the switch to these GT if I can expect the same mileage.
Revzilla, I'm a commuter and do several long trips a year on a 12 Ninja 650 (close to 6000 miles a year). I'm split between the Angel GTs and the Diablo Rosso 2's, which of these would be more confidence inspiring under aggressive riding? Assuming the Diablo Rosso 2s are significantly "stickier" are they worth the loss in longevity? Thank you.
Fernando Luna The Rosso IIs aren't significantly stickier than the Angel GTs. They're only slightly "stickier". I recommend getting the Angel GTs and seeing if you reach the limits of the traction. If you find you want more traction, then get the Rosso IIs after that. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla see, I'm coming from the Rosso IIs on my zx10r, but looking for my longevity without losing much, if any, corner traction.. I ride defensively aggressive so I've never actually scraped knee pad, but I want to have confidence the tire can handle it.
Hi!
I have on my vfr 750 the rosso II and they are great, but now I'm going to change tyres.
Considering that I have only 3500 miles in a year, but often two up! on a vfr, would you suggest me the angel gt?
And what about considering also roadsmart I or metz z8?
thank you for your great job!
I've only ran Angel GT tires. I get 11k miles out of the front and 20k miles out of the rear
What kind of bike do you have? What's your ridings style, chill or aggressive? I put a set on my GSXR 1000 and I only got 6000 miles out of the rear with about half the time up in the canyons.
Great production values. The infomercial format doesn’t really lend itself to credibility unfortunately. Very informative though.
Hi , which tires are best puncher resistance? Which is better for crappy roads and bit of slush and rain infested broken roads?, so how is angle GT given my requirements. I am looking forward to your answer and appreciate as it very important to me. I have a 400cc street nacked bike. I presently have Metzler M7RR but had 2 punchers in 4000 km.
There isn't much difference in puncture resistance honestly. The Angel GT tires _might_ resist punctures slightly better, but both the M7 RR and Angel GT tires are very good tires for you. -DrewZilla
I ride a 18'z14r. I basically use my bike for commuting. No track days but will take a curve every now and then. I ride 2 up every once in a while. I'm 200 lbs geared up. Would you recommend the st or gt?
GT
I will agree with Denis and recommend the GT. -DrewZilla
Hi I'm thinking of buying these for my kawasaki z800 would they be ok on it
TheButty01 Certainly! The Angel GT's are a great option for sport riding. They offer a nice balance between performance and longevity. -Hi-Viz Brian
I'm stuck between these, the PP4's, and the Q3's. My riding consists of mostly flat highway riding and as many twisties i can find (not too often). I would describe my style as moderately aggressive especially with cornering but like i said before is'nt too often.
Based on your riding style, I'd go with the Pirelli Angel GT tires. They will last longer and still give you the performance you need. -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla awesome thanks for the response!
RevZilla How do you feel about the michelin PP3's compared to the Pirelli angel GT's? What sets these apart? I ride a K8 gsxr-750
The PP3s are aggressive street and track day tires. The Pirelli Angel GTs are sport tires. They will last much longer on the highway and still perform well in the twisties. -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla What is the proper air pressure for the pirelli angel gt's? Front and back. How about if your two up?
I put a pair of Angels on my Moto Guzzi V11 Le-Mans, now what i did notice, with the deep tread blocks on the rear tire and putting the power on early out of the turns i felt the rear squirming and moving around. You eventually get used to it but i wonder how bad it is on a super bike with 180 bhp at the wheel as my Gussi puts out about half of that...
How many miles do you have on them (approximately)? -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla Hi Hi-Viz, i have about 500 miles as they're only on the bike so the sqirming might clear as the miles go on. I use a pair of Maxxis sports the last time, they where like a cut slick for the road..1800 miles killed them..
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That's what I'm hoping. Keep me posted. They should scrub in over the next few hundred miles. -Hi-Viz Brian
Im having them on my 2014 Zx6r and im having no real problems with grip, even now in winter with wet roads and 5°C. Last summer i had them on my then Daytona 675 and they worked perfectly, even after multiple fast passes on my favourite mountain road.
I've been thinking about putting these on my R1. Been going crazy over which tire to get between these and the Rosso 2's. To much straight line riding is killing my centers. Only getting 2,000 to 2,500 miles out of my dunlop q2's.
Jim G Go for the Angel GT. If you find yourself wanting more grip after using the Angel GTs (doubtful since they have great grip), then maybe go for the Rosso II. -DrewZilla
RevZilla thanks for the info. Should have them on by next week. Great videos. Keep up the good work
Plenty of grip in these puppies more than enough for any rider on the street. I have these on an fz1 fazer plus 90kg rider that's 300kg + and compared to michelin road pilot 2 turn in quicker with no effort other than keeping the bike stable as these tyres wanna go down quicker than a prostitute lol.
Neil Carr haha. I weigh about the same so I'm sold on them. Thanks for the advice and the laugh. Can't wait to get them on the bike.
Just be careful on the first few corners it'll feel strange but effortless mine are 190x55x17 felt like i was gonna drop the bike.But that's just the tyre shape.
Hi, for my Kawasaki Er6n what should i buy Angel GT or PR4 ? Whats the main difference between this models in dry and longevity performance ?
Denis Sousa Both have similar longevity (which is great). The Angel GT is better in the dry, whereas the PR4 is a bit better in the wet. -DrewZilla
I don't buy tires on impulse. So I keep looking. Got all winter. Perelli's were always good tires. KelvinSmoke got the right idea. You'all just got to give it up and decipher what is real and what is hearsay today. I just accidentally clicked this, cause, I figured, "how can I go wrong watching a video with a tire called angel." Mathematically, I spend 25% more than a cheap tire, to get over 100% more mileage, that's safer when caught in the rain. Its a no brainer. I'm sold. No really, aren't all the real tires you see in the real world already bald? You should get 10.000 miles.
were you happy with the choice? what bike did u slap them on?
How do these compare to the Dunlop roadsmart 2 tires? I have a Ninja 650, with rs 2 tires on it right now. They work okay, but I am interested to see how these work as well.
stampedfish In German magazine Motorrad's 2014 tire test, the Angel GT beat out the RS2 in both wet and dry grip. The Angel GT also warms up a bit quicker. -DrewZilla
Was thinking of putting Pirelli angel on front of my 2003 gsxr 600
Is it better overall traction wise then pilot power 3
No track for me just work and long rides all street and highways
Tons of corners around where I live
The PP3s have better dry traction but, won't last as long. If you're extremely aggressive, I'd go with the PP3s. If not, the Angel GTs are a great sport option. -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla tyvm ...decision made due to your comment...pirelli it is
Sweet! I think you'll be happy with them. They're no slouch during spirited riders, either. -Hi-Viz Brian
Just installed A Soec version on my S1000XR.
Thanks for your reply. Great watching your very informative clips. Will give the Angel GT a ride as it rains a lot where i am :)
@mulley hey man thinking of that set up you have how do you like it?
Anthony suddenly sees squirrel 0:07
i have fjr 1300 currently running with angels st ,have done 9000klm thinking to replace them with the GT ones
what i like to ask you on the rear tyre the ST seems more oval seems more ''quick'' when i lean the bike or seems make the bike feel less heavy (i don't know the English word how else to describe it) and the GT seems more flat
is this better ?
regards
The GT is still a pretty steep profile (move V-shaped than U-shaped), so you'll get quick handling but still have straight line stability. -DrewZilla
RevZilla Many thanks
3:06 - Valentino Rossi hiccups every time someone watches this video :)))) Nice review! I'm waiting for my ordered set of Angel GT's.
Can you explain the difference between the GT and the GT A tyre?
"A Spec" rear tires feature a reinforced, 2-ply carcass for heavier touring bikes (think FJR or BMW RT). -DrewZilla
Hi can these tires be used on a wet track day ?
For the dry i have supercorsa's pleas advise.
Grtz from holland.
I don't think I would use them for a wet track day. On the street they're fine but, dragging knees I'd recommend a rain race tire. -Hi-Viz Brian
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Hey @revzilla I ride a suzuki hayabusa would this be a good touring tire for me if not can you recommend one pls... looking for more millage... and also grip. Got 6000 millage out of my pilot 2ct.
Yes, these are probably the best sport + mileage option for the Hayabusa. -DrewZilla
Hey Anthony. I just had the Pirelli Angel GTs installed on my bike. Maybe a stupid question, but are they directional? Looks like the shop that installed my tires (Adrenaline, Victoria, BC) installed front backwards so that tire grooves channel water from outside to the center. Although there are no directional arrows on tire that I see, it looks like a stupid mistake. What do you think?
yoginada If your tires look like this, they are correct. -Hi-Viz Brian
* i.imgur.com/3oAn62p.jpg
* i.imgur.com/rRyytQU.jpg
RevZilla
Really? Well I'm getting front wheel reversed anyways. Sometimes common sense must prevail. Check out the buzz in the reviews. I'm obviously not the only one to think that Pirelli's out to lunch. Recommended set up on front wheel is clearly & plainly hazardous.
yoginada I wouldn't do that if I were you. The rear tire and front tire have different tread patterns because the rear is designed for acceleration while the front is designed for maximum braking. Below is a picture of a few bikes in our parking lot. All of their front tires have tread patterns that look backwards. However, they are correct. -Hi-Viz Brian
Also, read this - www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=624213
* i.imgur.com/Vdi7iRU.jpg
* i.imgur.com/gn2FOrs.jpg
* i.imgur.com/NkmqW9B.jpg
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* i.imgur.com/GAzPBiQ.jpg
RevZilla
OK. Many thanks Anthony. My mistake. It still does not make sense to me. I would have thought that it would be most important that water is dispersed from front wheel, (and traction & braking of course). Thanks for taking time to try & explain. But I defer to you experts as being more knowlegeable in these matters. I must admit that I had some concerns regarding the stability of reversing the front wheel tread, (dangerous experiment?), but the bike shop refused to reverse the tire for me. And I noticed today on many other bikes how the tread pattern was also reversed on the front wheel. It's still very illogical to me.
yoginada It still takes me a few minutes to wrap my head around it. I know exactly what you mean. -Hi-Viz Brian
How would you say this compares to the PR3? I ride a Concours 14 and need tyres soon. I've only had the OEM Bridgestones on this but they don't last very long and are less than confidence-inspiring. Anyone run these on a bigger ST bike? How do they handle in right tight, technical terrain?
What should I put on my Z800? I have an option of Michelin PR4 and Angel GT.
If you want a quicker turn-in, get the more V-shaped Angel GT. If you want a more linear turn-in, get the more U-shaped PR4. -DrewZilla
Thank you very much!
I have PP3 tires on my 2012 ninja 1000 and my rear tire is about 70% worn now but the front tire still looks pretty good. Would it be okay to run an angel gt on the rear with the PP3 on the front? are the angel gt's sporty enough to keep me happy? i live on the mountains so the majority of my riding is in the curves. I ran PR2 tires on my old bike years ago and thought they were not very sporty at all.
mrphotomanTIM No, we do not recommend mixing tires like that. If you want to keep the PP3 front, you really should stay with a PP3 rear. If you want Pirellis, you should get both front and rear. The Angel GTs are sportier than the old PR2s, but you may consider Rosso IIs instead. They're halfway between the PP3s and Angel GTs. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-diablo-rosso-ii-rear-tires
Okay thanks i will do that
mrphotomanTIM Well, for me I have no problem with that, I had done it many times, and many people had done that too, just be slow and careful initially, and maybe more careful when it is wet and watch how it behaves. Don't get the PR3/4, they are suck, squirm, deform, cup in... PR 2 is much better, and Angel GT may be slightly better, or Metzeler Sportec M7-RR could be much better, and good on mileage and on wet road too, better than the Michelin PP3, Dulop Q3 will set you on rail or the best Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP V2. Well, I will go with M7 front and angel gt rear, enough for aggressive street riding.
i went with another pp3. thanks for the info though. i may go with a set of angels next year but i do a track day once or twice a summer so i am worried it would not be sticky enough for me. i have had a few instances where the pp3 has slid on me though. i actually had it happen this weekend but the road was a little damp so i think that is what caused it. I tried the pr2 tires with my old bike a few years ago and hated them.
Can you get the pegs down in the wet with these tyres ??
Generally, yes, they do pretty well in the wet and cooler temperatures. -DrewZilla
I have a question, my front tire needs to be changed but my back doesn't need too. I currently am running Dunlop Q3's front and rear. Is it safe to have pirelli angel gt on front while still running Q3 in the back? I ride an r6, and mostly commute, but I still like to ride aggressively every now and then through out the week. Thank you.
Eloy Cruz I wouldn't touch that setup with a 10ft pole (okay, maybe an 8ft pole). The Q3 is incredibly soft and sticky on the sides for street tires, while the Angel GT is "decent" for mildly aggressive twisty riding. With that setup, I foresee you going into a turn use to the performance of your Q3's (front and rear) and the front Angel GT washing out, while the rear Q3 sticks and pushes the front straight. It's doable, but I don't recommend it at all. -Hi-Viz Brian
Thank you. I appreciate the reply. I'll think about it though.
Hey mate heard these don't like very hot weather can you comment on that? Also what Milage can I expect out of these at a rough estimate as I ride 25,000ks a year (street triple)
In our experience, they actually do ok in hot weather. As for longevity, you might expect 12,000-16,000 kilometers or even more depending on conditions. -DrewZilla
Hi!
What should I buy for my Yamaha MT-01 (265kg 150nm), the normal Angel GT or the Angel GT A-spec? Thanks!
If you frequently ride two up or carry heavy luggage, I'd recommend the A-spec option. If not, the regular Angel GT is your best bet. -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla Thanks Brian!!
You're welcome!
how many miles do these, for just commuting to work everyday?
ebubekir binici It depends on your motorcycle and personal riding style, but many people are getting over 8,000 miles (13,000+ km). -DrewZilla
oh nice definitely going with those :) thank you
Anyone know how the profile and milage of these compare to the Rosso II? I really like the Rosso II but if I can get more milage and similar feel I would be all for it.
Fredmullegun Good question! What bike do you ride and how do you ride it? -Hi-Viz Brian
Monster. I like the Rosso quick turning. Was a major change over stock tires.
Fredmullegun You should expect between 6k and 8k miles from the rear and 7k to 10k from the front depending on how hard you ride. -Hi-Viz Brian
Thanks HVB!
Hi I live in Brazil, I have a KTM Duke 200 2017 (F 110/70 ZR17 / R 150/60 ZR17 ) with Rosso 2 on it and I am not an aggressive rider on lean angle (do not have track or long experience with fast corners), I am aggressive on traffic going fast withs cars jammed but I would like to have a tire that can help with my angle insecurity but last a good milage. I found rosso 2 asking/pushing for more during strong curves... can I go right with Angel GT 150/70 on the rear and 120/70 at the front ? or I have others options ?
I have 65kg - I don't know if that is important.
Those sizes would likely fit just fine, but I would stick to the Rosso IIs you have. While it is an aggressive tire, it will last a long time because the Dukes are so light. I had a pair on my 390 Duke and they lasted a long time, all while giving me better grip than sport touring tires could. The only way to combat your insecurity about leaning is to keep leaning. I think the Rosso II will be your best option for that. -Kraus-e
Thank you Kraus ! I will go with Rosso II one more time, this is my first bike ever, never had any motorcycle in my life (31yrs), always semi-pro cyclist ..now need to lear how to ride a motorcycle. Thank you one more time.
You're welcome!
Think these would be good a 2014 Kawi ZX10R?
I'm coming from the Rosso IIs, but looking for my longevity without losing much, if any, corner traction.. I ride defensively aggressive so I've never actually scraped knee pad, but I want to have confidence the tire can handle it.
+Garretto LaFantastic I think the Angel GTs could work well for you. If you find that you need more traction (probably unlikely), you can always go back to Rosso IIs or perhaps try the Rosso IIIs. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla yeah, so I got them from your site... I got them properly scrubbed in now (over 600 miles). Lemme tell you I won't be going back to the Rosso IIs. Going my normal sweeper speeds there's no lack of traction and no loss of confidence as compared to the Rosso IIs. I spent enough time on the sidewall I feel confident I don't need to go back to the Rosso IIs. I felt during the sweepers there was plenty of traction left that I could tackle the turns a lot faster than my normal speeds and not worry about them slipping out.
@@SystemLostAre you using Angel GT at that time?
0:07 shifty eyes
Anthony's eyes can toggle between segments and intros. Looking right = forward and left = back. -Hi-Viz Brian
hi Brian and everyone I have also vfr800 vtec and tomorrow I will buy a new tyre. I don't use bike in rainy days. I like cornering. I do around 200 km each week. generally I prefer crooked roads. pr4 or angle gt? which one you suggest for me.? also I'm planning to put angel for rear and battlax s21for front because s21 front is dual compound. how is this idea ?
Mismatching tires is a bad idea. I recommend that you either put the S21 on both the front and rear or you put the Angel GT on both the front and the rear. We do not recommend mixing tire brands. -DrewZilla
RevZilla I don't have the abs that's why I'm looking for soft tire for front. can you please shortly explain why I shouldn't use different tires. I really need reason for this because it seems logical for me.
Our very own Lemmy wrote an in depth article all about tires, and here's an excerpt for you: _"There are rare instances where the OEM tires are mixed brands, but other than those exceptions, RevZilla recommends replacing tires with the tire manufacturer’s recommended match front or rear. Often, a manufacturer will recommend a different model of tire for front and rear, and we will follow that recommendation. Unless a bike was equipped with two different tires from the factory, we do not recommend mixing tire brands because differences in tire handling and performance can cause an otherwise well-behaved motorcycle to act in an unpredictable, unsafe manner. Tire manufacturers engineered their tires to work with a matched partner. You paid for all that engineering, so why not use it?"_ Hope this explanation helps. You don't have to listen to us, but we think you should. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/motorcycle-tires-101-guide
RevZilla thank you so much
One reason of many is because the front and rear tires on some, if not all, tires work as an essential pair. Meaning the beneficial qualities of one tire will be negated or significantly reduced when paired with a mismatched tire. Each tire is designed based off of the other tire. For example: a rear tire design might not expel enough water for it to be safe or work properly, so they designed the front tire to expel more water than a typical tire. Hence, now they work as a pair. On a mismatched pair, one tire may heat up significantly faster than the other tire, or one tire may have good traction on certain road conditions and the other may not, or one tire may have good traction in cold weather and the other one may not. There are many reasons why you shouldn't mismatch tires, unless, like Lemmy said: If it's recommended by the manufacturer. I hope this helps you decide. Personally, I hate dual compound front tires. The sides wear faster than the middle. Causing a elongated tire which is not good.
I am looking for a tire that works well in cold and wet invironment, I ride a CBF600 touring bike, at the moment with Bridgestone T023's, and I'm thinking about either these Angel GT's, the Bridgestone T30's or the Micheling PR4. Anyone have experience in bad weather with these tires ? Thank you!
If you liked BT023, and you want to keep in Brigdestone (brand you know), you can go to T30, is even a little better than BT023. For best wet tire, the PR4 were the best i had. For dry, Angel GT is probably S-T tire i've tried in terms of stability and grip. They give good feedback too. I just don't like the profile of them very much (maybe because i'm used to Michelin's agility).
I live in the Netherlands... so lots of rain. :D So maybe I'll switch to the PR4's next time I need new tires... Nothing wrong with switching brand every now and then to keep me objective... Thank you for your input!
No problem mate! You live in a nice country, very beautiful landscapes! I've got a friend who's been there for several months =D
So how do these tyres perform?
Most people like the quick turn-in, good grip, and better than average tire life. All of that is improved with the Angel GT II. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires
@ CK . The link for "buy it now " sending to wrong item :D
How is the angel gt compared to the battlax t30?
Hakim Said What kind of bike do you ride and what is your riding style (touring, commuting, sport)? -Hi-Viz Brian
RevZilla im riding a naked and using it for commuting and hitting the twisties on every other weekend
Hakim Said You'll likely get more mileage with commuting while still getting great corner grip with the Angels compared to the T30s, so I'd go for Pirelli. -DrewZilla
whats the difference between standar angel gts and A spec and D spec ones?
"A Spec" rear tires feature a reinforced, 2-ply carcass for heavy touring bikes. "D Spec" rear tires are specifically designed for the Ducati Multistrada 1200. -DrewZilla
RevZilla so standard tires should be fine on a 600cc sport bike?
Yes, standard tires are the better option for you. A Spec tires are too stiff and harsh for a 600. -DrewZilla
i'm currently stuck in between Angel GT and Battlax T30... any advice??
GT lasts longer.
these tire ride nice ive rock the demon tire and this angle rides just as nice and i fly all over on the back of my angles.....
Nice!
are these tires oke for a z1000 kawasaki
Yes, these would be good extended-mileage sport tires for a Z1000. -DrewZilla
Is the angel GT made in china or Germany??
Ya.
Glad to be of some use Free tires maybe :D *kidding-Ish*
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I purchased the Perelli Angel GT sport touring tires for my 2014 Honda NC700X DCT. Do you think I can get 15,000 miles out of these tires or more ? Previously the tires I had on my Honda NC700X DCT were the Michelin Pilot Road 4's and with those tires I actually got 15,000 miles out of them but they were a little more costly.
It really depends how hard you are on tires. You probably won't get as many miles as the Pilot Road 4s though. -DrewZilla