ASUS ProArt PX13 vs. ProArt P16 - Incredible Performance!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Review and comparison on the ASUS ProArt PX13 and ASUS ProArt P16. The PX13 completely surprised me with its performance considering its size!
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What do you guys think of the ProArt lineup? The PX13 is insane considering its size.
ASUS could have made a really fantastic convertible with the 13 inch all rounded only if it had a better refresh rate. They could have done 120, 90, 75? I dont know, 60hz is not justified in 2024. Atleast I dont see a convertible in the market that packs a good GPU like this and has a high refresh rate, Maybe its hard to get high refresh rate OLED screens?
I believe there are a lot of mac users out there who do want to carry a 2nd device for gaming and something like this with heigher refresh rate will check all boxes.
60Hz really isn't enough in this modern day. Should've been 120Hz at least.
İ wish they have dual 2:01 mode like some monitos 1080p 240hz or 4k 90hz at least
I have the P16 and it is a great laptop. That 4k oled is fantastic and color accurate and supports touch. It's performance is next level and has a great selection of ports. The matt black coating is the least fingerprint magnet coating you can currently get and looks great. It has an excellent keybord and one of the best non haptic trackpads you will find. It runs very cool for a 4060 and fan noise is very tolerable. It's speakers are excellent and it's pricing at 1899 is exceptional. Looking at you Dell XPS, Samsung book ultra even Mac Book Pro. As for ram you get fast ddr5x at 32 gigs standard and can upgrade to 64. It's only flaws is it should be haptic and 120 htz. If you need it get the g16, but you will go from 4k to 2.5 k and lose the dial pad and the discrete looks. Even the MacBook Pro has it's faults, no oled,the notch.no type A ports, no wifi 7 and is very expensive to get 32 gigs of ram and 1tb storage and you cant game on it. Sometimes you need to look at the overall package. Good review Matthew and I agree the PX13 is a feat of engineering. If you change the settings to whisper mode you will achieve much better battery life on most operations.
ur comment was way better than his biased video😂
I so wish it were a 14.1" or 14.5" display. The 13.3" is just so ... Tiny.
does the screen wobble easily? weak hinges?
@@shalveenkumar2142 The screen won't wobble unless you type with a lot of force. The hinges seem secure and strong, but not as strong as Lenovo's yoga line where the hinge encompasses a greater portion of the laptop screen's total length.
ProCreator Hub sounds like a formal way of saying "the Hub" 💀
😂
Finally Windows laptops are taking front facing speakers seriously.
5:34 I wonder if the webcams look so different because of the positioning and the light. The 16 looks better in my opinion.
I'm not going to say the 60Hz refresh rate isn't a bummer, but I still love my base model PX13. Last week I had it running Microsoft Office apps, Teams, Edge, Encompass (bloated loan origination software), MongoDB Server, IIS, and Visual Studio debugging a large project. The fans turned off because my PX13 wasn't bothered by that workload at all ... and I fell in love with it. 🤣
To have that kind of performance along with 2-in-1 functionality and a good time gaming now and then is peak x86-64.
The build quality on the PX13 is insane, I got to feel it in person. I wish it had a refresh rate over 60, I might just buy a flow instead.
Hi, I'd like buy this laptop, something like this, visual studio, compilation, 5 browsers and 100 browser tabs, operations IT, client db, VPN, etc, what do you think, is enough?
@@DanielMIT-yd4bu I'd yet to get mine bogged down, so I think you'd be fine. It's a great little machine.
@@DanielMIT-yd4bu It has 32gb of DDR5 ram, I think it could handle all of that. If not, you can always return it provided you bought it from an american retailer like Best Buy.
I love my PX13 (I have the 4050 version). The industrial design and build quality is on a par with Apple and Surface. Bought it mainly for work, but played Trek to Yomi (free with Prime rn fwiw) last night on Epic settings. Even at just 1080p, it looked beautiful, and I'm pretty sure you could play at the native 3k res.
Another big difference is the 16" offers up to 64gb of ram. Something the Zephyrus doesn't offer.
The screen looks wobbly
Awesome video…. Just picked up a p16 this weekend and I love it!
THanks! Nice, congrats dude its a great laptop
Another great comparison, thanks Matt. We have a house full of ASUS products (laptop, desktop, even the ProArt 2K monitor I'm watching this on) so to say I'm fan would be an understatement. That PX13 looks like it would be a good replacement for our five-year-old VivoBook when it finally gives up the ghost.
THanks Bryan!! Ya the PX13 is pretty damn sweet!
I really wish they added 120hz. I guess Asus didn’t so it won’t cannibalize its Zephyrus gaming line.
That's my guess as well. Can't wait for a flow x13 version of the px13
I just got the ASUS proart px 13 wit the 4060. I love it. Guess what? Im selling my M3 Macbook pro
I just saw the 13 in store, it's gorgeous, one question does it run hot?
@@oni7729 The fans only kick in when playing high end games. Other than that, its amazing
Thanks for replying, that's amazing, now I wanna pick one up😍
How does this compare to the studiobook pro 16 w7604? Torn between the two. I like the pro 16 for the 180 degree hinge, the 120hz , and the haptic trackpad, but surely this model performs better?
Asus, if you're reading this. I was set on the PX13 until I saw the refresh rate was 60hz. How can a creator device have such a basic refresh rate?
It's fine for creating. My desktop monitor for editing videos is 60hz. Only gaming I would require a high refresh rate.
@@MatthewMoniz do you prefer proart P16 to macbook pro m3 max?
@@MatthewMoniz so I guess the Macbook Pro is a gaming laptop then.... :/
That’s not even what he implied
@@batmanonholiday4477 I prefer the macbook pro m3 max because I can work off of it with full power on a plane.
it’s the 75W tgp that’s the deal breaker for the px13…a 4k oled with that level of color accuracy, at 60Hz,at this price point is valid imo.
Prolly gonna go for the p16 as a substitute to the Zephyrus g16. I really need 32 gigs of ram, and nothing over a 4060/70, which the Zephyrus doesn’t offer..
Have a 2023 ProArt Studiobook. Was about to buy the new P16, but, WHERE IS THE ETHERNET PORT? Are they kidding?
I appreciate that even in your sponsored videos, you call out the laptops' weaknesses. The lack of 120hz as an option is unforgivable. So a "creator" doesn't do research on the internet and isn't scrolling constantly? Even if he or she isn't gaming, anyone paying this much for a laptop with these components, who will likely hold onto the device for multiple years, should be able to choose a panel as good as the G14 or G16 has. Almost everything else is so great, especially about the P16. You get full 100w to the 4070. You get this awesome new processor from AMD. You get a properly cooled system in a compact design, that is light weight, with a great webcam and with good battery life. You even get all the ports. It's just -- you have a sub-400 nit display that has the same refresh rate as the original iPhone released in 2007.....
You're welcome and I totally agree it should have a 120hz panel at the very least. Hopefully ASUS makes the change for the next iteration. AS for the OLED display there's not too many super bright OLED displays on 16inch laptops YET. It requires a bit more power and with it comes more heat. They would have to do a tandem oled display to make it happen and probably not that accessible for ASUS at the moment.
@@MatthewMonizdo u think they will bring out a updated version next year
$2700 for 64gb version of P16 w/4070
+$400 for 32gb of RAM; that’s tough…
@@BurnsRubber so not good ? U would say 4080 wait for
@@DanielMazz yes should come with 4080 and 16gb of vram with vapor chamber for that price
Matthew youre lefthanded?))) 7:31 shocked... or this is mirrored shot? i am lefty, but cant use mouse in the left hand :( that why i snck in FPS games :)
60Hz is too low for refresh rate, 120 is overkill. it should be between 75 and 90 in my opinion. You get a noticeable smoother experience without a great hit on battery life.
120 is fine. It should have 120hz. The only thing I can think of is they figure they have the Zephyrus G16 /G14 if you want a high refresh display
@matthew moniz i own the p16 and is a great laptop of course i changed my settings for battery life but the 60hz screen is really not that bad it is smoother than most 60hz display asus says its still has the 0.2ms response time but overall its nice and i would recommend it good comparsion btw
60Hz in 2024..
Is not that bad
Macbook air also haz 60 hz or steam deck lcd
And is not a gaming laptops for work 60hz is enough for gaming you can buy for about 150-200 usd 1440p 144hz monitor and plug this laptop
A real bummer in 2024 going towards 2025 imo. I don't undersand why they did that and then they gave the S16 "non creator" laptop 120Hz. I was really tempted by the PX13, but the 60Hz display and the battery life really don't justify the full price you need to pay at the moment.
@@Link10210 i partially agree, but you can feel the smoothness difference between 60hz and 120hz also by scrolling a web page, plus, since the PX13 is a 2 in 1, 120Hz would have helped with the feedback from the pen while drawing or taking notes
Yeah imagine spending that much money and the machine still doesn't check nearly all of the boxes
I will never buy something so expensive with a 60Hz refresh screen.
Is burn-in something we have to worry about in these laptops’ oled panels?
If you run things for many hours that have static elements, probably. But they have management software to mitigate some of that.
he just bought the p16 my first ProArt i don't know how to use the dial pad i feel like it doesn't work. the led on the right of the trackpad doesn't light up, how do i activate it please?
Would you recommend these laptops for a mechanical engineering student?
You probably need something with a dedicated GPU. I would wait to see laptops with the recently released Intel Lunar Lake, as you get better autonomy and better onboard graphics, too. And it will run more silent. We seem to have got to the x86 moment of mostly silent machines that could be charged every other day or so.
Yeah it'll be fine tbh
Great and well-produced review - thanks a lot! The P16 is for sure my next laptop - I love the clean aesthetics combined good screen/keyboard/performance and the sound/mic/webcam are much better than my current laptop. I am not a gamer, so 60Hz refresh isn't much of an issue for me.
Thank you! WHat laptop are upgrading from?
I have an old laptop used for communication/web connected to camera/mic/headphone amp in my WFH setup. It is starting to show its significant age, so I will replace it with my current LG Gram 17, and get the P16 as my new daily driver and for working when away from home (visual effects). I connect remotely to a server at work, so not a lot of need for performance - main need is screen/keyboard/cam/mic.
Honestly, I am waiting for the Intel Lunar Lake versions. Those seem to have better graphics and run considerably more silent. And you get a better battery life, too.
i want a laptop for mostly remote connect to my work computer for work (microsoft excel/pdf/word stuff) and discord talking and streaming videos with my gf. I feel like these would be overkill. Any recommendations?
I dont thin kthey are overkill but would also like to hear an answer. I am down to either the Yoga Pro 91 or the Proart s!6
If it had 120hz I would buy it right now. Hopefully it’ll come in the future and not be kept hostage in their gaming line.
Where I can find those cool wallpapers in the thumbnail? Thank you!
I made them!
@@MatthewMoniz That’s awesome! Any patreon page or something where I can access those?! Thank you.
What are the GPU modes shown at 4:26?
Do you need to restart the laptop when you toggle between them?
Does the laptop have a MUX switch and Optimus Advanced?
Do you see a performance uplift when you use an external monitor instead of the laptop display?
How is Lenovo yoga 7 Ryzen CPU i want user review
Amazing video.. can’t wait to receive my p16 🎉
Thanks! Let me know how you like it
@@MatthewMoniz I will 😀
60hz for that price is disgusting
It is not a gaming pc
@@basicelement so you are saying MacBook pro is a gaming device
@@simplegamingbys.r.2059 no I am just saying it is extremely expensive and it rips off people
@@simplegamingbys.r.2059 and btw macbook refresh rate is at 60hz 😂😂😂
Great review,. I am looking for a new laptop to replace my yoga. I am more into productivity and watching videos- no gaming. I have my laptop connected to an AOC monitor with a 144hz refresh rate so if i am not mistaken that monitor takes the place of teh oled and does fine even if gaming, right?
Cannot even beat G16 with last gen Intel Ultra 9 185H
Is the Asus studiobook version replaced with the old one that had a physical wheel or is this another version?
I just bought the 2024 g14 for my new college laptop should i return it and get this one?
Finally a high quality review of the p16
Thanks for watching!
looks great, i'm tossing up between buying the 13in vs the 16in. Can't see much benefit of the 16in, I think 13in will be easier when travelling
High refresh rate is not only for gaming but also for a comfortable website scrolling experience, etc.
Totally but you don't scroll on your desktop like you do with your finger on a phone so its not as noticeable but I agree the panels should be 120hz.
@@MatthewMonizcan Asus fix the problem next year
Is it normal that my ASUS TUF A15 reaches 86c on the GPU(RTX 4060 at 100w+) and 93c on the CPU(R7 7735HS at 30w+) while gaming if I don't elevate it? I have repasted it as well and it didn't make any noticeable difference.
can't stand not putting high refreshed displays in so called creator laptops, even MacBook Pro offers 120hz display, what the hell is Asus doing?
They sell the Zephyrus line if you need the 120hz
@@markaznar1979 what if I want both the dial and 120hz
@@bottlefish6386 then use an external monitor? You can’t always have what you want? Grow up?
I think youre right especially if you consider the pricepoint. Only reason i didnt go with Asus is i got a Lenovo 7i and it has 2 nvme slots Asus have nice laptops but all of them only have one nvme slot
@@markaznar1979 nonsense. The Creator laptops are notorious for being more expensive. It would be absurd for them to not have high refresh rates either. Besides, the constant reliance on a monitor also takes away from its portability.
reminded me a lot of Asus Rog X13.
I really think the ryzen ai 300 is gonna dominate the second half of 2024, and even early 2025
and also becuz intel's raptor lake cpu is in big trouble, no one wants to buy their HX cpu, yet their meteor lake is too weak
and i don't think intel's Lunar lake is going to catch up
I would prefer 14th or 13th gen i9 day and night over this in productivity and multicore. I M NOT a fan of killing performance for the sake of battery. Last years machines were leagues ahead in multicore . I honestly think hx370 is good as it brings neural units to equation, but still WEAK as compared to last gen. Why couldnt they just make it stronger? 7945hx is like at least 50 percent better than this , and those devices have like a 4080 and still cheaper..geeeez
The more laptops I test with HX 370 cpus the more impressed I get. I think its going to be the best of X86 for the next little while.
@@hasandeniz6243 You can push the HX 370 to 100W easily with the G16. Performance will be very close to 13/14th gen i9. And no, it's not weak, it's much cooler than the Intel pendant, thus giving you more thermal headroom for thin devices and no throttling at all. It performs really, really good and is damn snappy. If you want more performance and you don't care about mobility nor battery, then the next stop is a desktop really.
@@tinybit780 wow really? That s nice to hear. How do you push the hx370 to 100 watt? Is it bios overclock or there s embedded software? In that case this becomes more of a value to me to be honest..
The Pro Att 2023 with i9 , 120 Hertz or The P16 witch one is better?
if only these were not from Asus...
What's their achilles heel (go gently on me i just ordered a vivobook 7940hs 32GB 1TB OLED 120 Hz for $1100+tax 3d ago on clearance!)
@@dgillies5420 China...lol still my favorite brand
@@RojekIndustrialRepairLLC ASUS is not China. They are a Taiwanese company .
I agree, Asus = shitty quality and a looot of marketing.
@@D1sconnect I thought that was Acer?
9:09 How do u even get 9 hours from the Zephyrus G16… mine runs for 4 hours max
Hello everyone.. im planning to buy a new laptop.. is px13 good for video editing? Hope somebody could ans.. thanks
using external monitor for gaming !!!
Thats an option as well!
Can this charge off of either USB-C ports in the proart13 with generic chargers? And at what rate? I had problems with this with the Flow X13
Up to 100w
I love everything about the PX13 but I don't care for the 60hz display. I don't play many games but I know that spending lots of time traveling and working that a 120hz panel would be more enjoyable. That's unfortunate.
Looking forward to the review of the asus tuf versions with the HX370 procs.
Ive already reviewed the TUF A14 with the HX370 procs. The video is on the channel
nice but my 13"th Pro Art studio book R24 multicore is about 30 percent higher and about 10% higher timespy (13980hx and Ada 3000) and has a dedicated dialpad and stylus support. Not sure downgrading would make sense except for people travelling a lot.
You're all complaining about the 4K/60Hz. 4k/120Hz doest not exist for a laptop, if it was, it would heavily impact the battery life. I ( as a creator) would rather have a 60Hz with the sharpness of a 4k panel than 120Hz at a lower resolution.
Why are you telling such a bold face lie about 4k 120hz not existing on laptops, wtf
@@Demonat865On OLED at least it doesn't exist. There's a few mini led 4k120Hz pannels out there, razer and MSI I beleive
Dell XPS 16 has OLED 4k 90hz.
@@stanislasflipo7214Dell XPS 16 has OLED 4k 90hz.
@@stanislasflipo7214they should give at least 90hz.like dell xps 16 4k
I really wanted proart px13, but after discovering that display is only 60hz... Its a deal breaker for me
How good is the igpu on these?
What about the yoga pro 9i comparison?
I would llike to know that answer too
It's looked like the dial pad was extremely laggy in da Vinci resolve..
I compared the P16 to the Yoga Pro 91 with the higher 165hz reffresh rate watching a tennis match and I thoughty the ASUS was actually better and less choppy. Go figure. And if you have an external monitor with a higher refresh rate then why not use that set up and it moots the 60 hz refresh rate.
I'm not into convertibles but that's something I'd buy.
Thanks for the comparison. I'm very close to purchasing the P16. Other than the adding another SSD using the additional slot, Is it possible to upgrade the current onboard 2TB SSD to something like 4TB? Ideally I would like two internal 4TB SSDs rather than 2TB & 4TB.
Max is 4tb total
@@taikoshugon Max on each installed SSD? Why is 8TB not possible?
@@Dynamoth 2tb x2 max 4tb
@@taikoshugon 2 x 8TB is possible
@@Dynamoth the website states up to 4tb.
With these designs I think I will never gonna want to buy a Macbook
The dial thing is super annoying and just turns on with me turning it on… it is very annoying
3 inch lesser but still similar performance.. great
that screen wobble though
Not an ASUS fan and await these AMDs to arrive in alternative brands. That will also add competition and these prices should fall to a more reasonable level. At the moment ASUS has a deal with AMD to be the initial wave and that means that consumers are likely paying what ASUS paid AMD--as well as all these sponsored ads.
People need to calm down, 120Hz is nice to have but should not be a dealbreaker unless you are a gamer, especially on such a small display
sad to hear, upgradeable RAM is not coming back with Ryzen AI. I think I will stay with my behemot Studiobook Pro 16 a bit longer (up to 96gb DDR5)
I'm so put off by Asus's reputation for abysmal RMA support. I could not see buying a Asus until it changes it's support culture.
small laptops anyday and desktop when you are serious
Why is the wifi card swappable but the ram not upgradeable? 😅
Because mediatek WiFi cards suck
upgradable ram would kill the memory speeds. its impossible to get 6000+ speeds on ddr5 sticks so by soldering ram u can achieve speeds of over 7000mhz
@@ian-pi8fv it's achievable now with the CAMM standard
60Hz is the nail in the coffin here.
Ya i wish it had 120hz but I guess you can always just buy the ZEphyrus G16 instead if you dont need a dialpad. Its pretty much the same laptop.
@MatthewMoniz the G16 design is absolutely the best, but with a 125W 4080, core ultra chip, and a massive price tag, I just can't, Matt. I'm currently waiting to see if the new AMD chips will be in the legion 7 line up this year or confirmation that the 14900hx is not affected by the overvolatge fiasco. It feels like legion 7, 7i, or 9i are the only choices this year.
I returned the PX13 I found the performance using Lightroom Classic was very poor. Benchmarks are meaningless it comes down to how well your mostly used apps run
They have a gaming rig ...
Why do these not support Windows Studio Effects it has an AI CPU.
So, I guess I'm staying with my MacBook 14 m1 pro
16 inch is good in every way except 120hz, i think
In my country the proart px13 costs USD$2650 and we get the 4050 not even the 4060.
My country is such a ripoff
No ram upgrade? It's a no for me. Nice video!
thanks you! Ya, no upgradeable ram is the direciton the industry is going in. Minus big boy gaming laptops.
@MatthewMoniz What ever happened CAMM? It seemed perfect for a laptop form factor since it let's you have higher speed than SODIMM, with thinner profile, while still upgradeable.
I want a 64GB, 13-inch model.H7606WI is too expensive😢
still waiting for gaming version of amd zen 5 laptop that is affordable
60hz in 2024? Next! I think 120hz started popping up in phones like 7 years ago, why not here for a $2K+ laptop
I think this is the 2024 version of flow x13
There is no 2024 flow x13. Probably won't see one until end of year or early next
I never understood the logic of making a larger version of a laptop that is originally a 2 in 1 but not making the larger version 2 in 1 as well... like, why? Especially a laptop for creators, why? What is so wrong with a 16 inch 2 in 1?
I get it! They could have used the Flow X16 design.
@@MatthewMoniz thank you for validating me 😭 finding the perfect laptop is so hard for me lol
does both of this thing have upgradeable memory?.
Neither do, unfortunately. The PX13 I understand. But not the p16. But that was a change already made for the G14/G16 earlier this year
@@Wistbacka thanks.. its kinda perfect laptop for ai.. just pure power no rgb.. i guess need to go for max 64 gb version for p16
What game were you playing?
Overwatch 2
I get the impression the wheel thingy is only any good for adobe... so, well, not for me!
Until Windows laptops are as quiet as Macbooks, I'm not interested.
You know that's ALL Intel's fault, right? They gave windows laptops a TERRIBLE name - Its why Apple ditched Intel in 2020! The Ryzen 370 Hx AI CPU is about as efficient as snapdragon x elite or M1 ...
@@dgillies5420 That's good. But, my macbook is literally dead silent 99.9% of the time. I don't want to hear even quiet fan noise and I'm not sure AMD is there yet. Appreciate the comment.
@@riflemann14 the macbook air is kind of a miracle - the first fanlesd laptop since forever ...
@@dgillies5420 I have a 16" M1 pro and a 14" M2 pro. Base configs on both. Heard the fans on the M1 for a few seconds once. Have never heard the fans on the M2. I never game or compile code, edit videos, etc. I think the fans literally are never on given my light usage.
Asus ROG flow x16 mini led is a better option
When launch in India
I think these manufacturers deliberately try to limit the functions in all of their laptops so that people buy other models as well. what a stupid way to increase the sale. Its off putting. Just make one good laptop which has everything and customers wont go anywhere else. I like the design as compared to 2023 model but refresh rate, no finger print and no upgradable ram.
I am watching this on my P16 ...... just cos 😊
60Hz is absolutelly ridiculous.... how did they think it's a good ideea?
Does the px13 come with a stylus?
$100 extra!
If you get the 4070 version I think it comes with but you can’t even order that in the US yet and it’s probably gonna be like $3k
The 4060 version includes stylus and backpack
I think 60hz laptop should not be purchased. How could they fail so heavy. It's impossible to work with 60hz after using 144...
For 4 k dollars there are Must be anything! Perfectly!
But by video it doesn't look like this
You can buy 1.5 k dollars lap with same
Oh, yeah. Ryzen and RTX is the best combo.
These are very nice laptops however there's an elephant in the room.... that 60hz screen...
I think regular creators will be fine with it. I use a 60hz monitor at work but I'd probably go for the G16 so I can game and create.
I need a leptop