@@thecreativecontessa That would be delightful ☺️ I should really check out your channel history some more or perhaps you might create some new vids on the subject??? I know that it's originally from Italy during the Renaissance, and the costumes were different but that's about the extent of my knowledge on the subject.
A manuscript assuming everyone knows the basics of each step reminds me a lot of line dancing and square dancing, where you can be told to do a do-si-do with no further explanation, because it's assumed that people who are into square dancing know what that term means. Fascinating video!
The entire dance absolutely mimics the weaving of fabric, and if you've ever seen a medieval brocade loom in action, you would understand the Galloping as also being part of the weaving process. 🤣
@@thecreativecontessa It’s these hidden references in the sword manuals that give me hints at what and how folk were thinking back then that helps me relate to them and it makes them feel more human, rather than just a recipe… 😆
Thank you so much for getting the reference! We tested three different thumbnails with three different sets of wording, and this was the one that got the most people to click through to the video. 😅
I don't know enough to contradict you ND what you're hypothesizing makes sense. And I'm sure you were metaphorically pulling hair out at some point. Dance, though, is lovely and elegant
12:25 Historical recipes are the same way! Like they will casually throw in an instruction 2/3 of the way through that makes you suddenly realize you should have prepared an entire additional, theretofore unmentioned ingredient. 😅
Were they instructed to all face the same direction at the beginning of the dance? I wasn’t able to retain the beginning of the instruction by the end because it was so complicated to remember, I’m really impressed that you were able to make sense of the dance instruction manual that was that old especially because I was never any good at memorizing the choreography in dance and too many parts didn’t stick in my brain at once. Maybe half the group began as couples and were facing one way and the other half were facing the other direction so that turning was unnecessary except at the designated times and they ended up reversing positions through the aisle between the couples without turning and ended up reversing positions and facing the opposite direction as they were at the beginning, but I don’t know if that actually makes any sense or not, is that possible?
Interpreting “not-so-ancient dance instructions” dating from half a century ago can very difficult too, even with the benefit of fluency in standard dance vocabulary. Notating choreography or technical movement exercises in writing is intrinsically flawed. We still haven’t developed an efficient or widespread system for this. Most dance instruction relies mostly on oral tradition, even to this day.
Exactly! But in my experience, even spoken words are not sufficient to convey the full meaning. Demonstration is still required to impart the exact movement that one is trying to communicate. Whether written or spoken, words are not up the challenge of communicating the nuances of motion. In fact, oral transmission is directly responsible for a gradual (or even not gradual) evolution of a dance because of flaws inherent in the plasticity of memory. I have personally witnessed this multiple times. For instaince, I watched the interpretion of a dance from 1651 evolve into something unrecognizable in the span of just five years - making the five year-old version not compatible with "patient zero" - the result of people misremembering pieces or even entire sections!
@ absolutely agree. Not only is demonstration an essential aspect of the oral traditionI I refer to, it’s the most important part of dance education in general. I have observed the “plasticity” you describe countless times, and will add that even video records are not insurance against changes sneaking into a work and being transmitted into future iterations of a piece. I’ve even known my own mis-steps on stage to be immortalized on video and subsequently restaged on another dancer using that faulty performance for reference. My improvised resolution to a forgotten passage is now a permanent part of that ballet and I’m the only person who knows the truth. It is what it is. Some changes aren’t even corruptions necessarily. Look at the repertoire of the great 20th Century choreographer George Balanchine. His works have been documented and performed more than that of any other from that century. The re-staging of these works have been carefully regulated for decades by a board of trustees. Despite vast amounts of video documentation, committees and written documents dedicated to the careful preservation of these steps and the choreographic literature they are part of, the performances of these works look very different today from how they did 50 or 60 years ago. While the essence and style of the steps remain intact, the technique of the art form has evolved, allowing dancers to access more range of movement and expression within the defining limits of the steps. In the end, dance is a special beast. Ephemeral in nature, it cannot be rendered static. It defies efforts to be sealed in amber. We (The Dance and the dancers who dance it) change in response to one another. I’m amazed by what you are doing. Much respect.
I think that I recall you mentioning that you have training in ballet, it shows.
You move so elegantly.
I wish that I could be so ladylike 💖
First off, thank you so much for that delightful compliment! And second off, I'm pretty certain I could teach you to move similarly. 😊
@@thecreativecontessa That would be delightful ☺️
I should really check out your channel history some more or perhaps you might create some new vids on the subject???
I know that it's originally from Italy during the Renaissance, and the costumes were different but that's about the extent of my knowledge on the subject.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your generosity! You have made my weekend! 😊
I'm begining to live for these videos
Awww, thank you! 🥰
A manuscript assuming everyone knows the basics of each step reminds me a lot of line dancing and square dancing, where you can be told to do a do-si-do with no further explanation, because it's assumed that people who are into square dancing know what that term means. Fascinating video!
Interesting, the dance is kinda one part, a line of horses galloping, and one part, watching the shuttle of a loom zoom through…
The entire dance absolutely mimics the weaving of fabric, and if you've ever seen a medieval brocade loom in action, you would understand the Galloping as also being part of the weaving process. 🤣
But we're nowhere near done yet! There's three whole sections of the dance Left To do! 😊
@@thecreativecontessa It’s these hidden references in the sword manuals that give me hints at what and how folk were thinking back then that helps me relate to them and it makes them feel more human, rather than just a recipe… 😆
"It's alive! IT'S ALIVE!"
Thank you so much for getting the reference! We tested three different thumbnails with three different sets of wording, and this was the one that got the most people to click through to the video. 😅
I don't know enough to contradict you ND what you're hypothesizing makes sense. And I'm sure you were metaphorically pulling hair out at some point. Dance, though, is lovely and elegant
12:25 Historical recipes are the same way! Like they will casually throw in an instruction 2/3 of the way through that makes you suddenly realize you should have prepared an entire additional, theretofore unmentioned ingredient. 😅
So very much! Medieval recipes often take even more for granted than medieval dance instructions! 😅
NBi is so small here but cute and adorable interacting with your Condotiere
She was so adorable as a little kitten! 😊
Were they instructed to all face the same direction at the beginning of the dance? I wasn’t able to retain the beginning of the instruction by the end because it was so complicated to remember, I’m really impressed that you were able to make sense of the dance instruction manual that was that old especially because I was never any good at memorizing the choreography in dance and too many parts didn’t stick in my brain at once. Maybe half the group began as couples and were facing one way and the other half were facing the other direction so that turning was unnecessary except at the designated times and they ended up reversing positions through the aisle between the couples without turning and ended up reversing positions and facing the opposite direction as they were at the beginning, but I don’t know if that actually makes any sense or not, is that possible?
Thank you for that fantastic comment and those questions! Before I answer, have you seen part 1 of the series?
Interpreting “not-so-ancient dance instructions” dating from half a century ago can very difficult too, even with the benefit of fluency in standard dance vocabulary. Notating choreography or technical movement exercises in writing is intrinsically flawed. We still haven’t developed an efficient or widespread system for this. Most dance instruction relies mostly on oral tradition, even to this day.
Exactly! But in my experience, even spoken words are not sufficient to convey the full meaning. Demonstration is still required to impart the exact movement that one is trying to communicate. Whether written or spoken, words are not up the challenge of communicating the nuances of motion. In fact, oral transmission is directly responsible for a gradual (or even not gradual) evolution of a dance because of flaws inherent in the plasticity of memory. I have personally witnessed this multiple times. For instaince, I watched the interpretion of a dance from 1651 evolve into something unrecognizable in the span of just five years - making the five year-old version not compatible with "patient zero" - the result of people misremembering pieces or even entire sections!
@ absolutely agree. Not only is demonstration an essential aspect of the oral traditionI I refer to, it’s the most important part of dance education in general.
I have observed the “plasticity” you describe countless times, and will add that even video records are not insurance against changes sneaking into a work and being transmitted into future iterations of a piece. I’ve even known my own mis-steps on stage to be immortalized on video and subsequently restaged on another dancer using that faulty performance for reference. My improvised resolution to a forgotten passage is now a permanent part of that ballet and I’m the only person who knows the truth. It is what it is.
Some changes aren’t even corruptions necessarily. Look at the repertoire of the great 20th Century choreographer George Balanchine. His works have been documented and performed more than that of any other from that century. The re-staging of these works have been carefully regulated for decades by a board of trustees. Despite vast amounts of video documentation, committees and written documents dedicated to the careful preservation of these steps and the choreographic literature they are part of, the performances of these works look very different today from how they did 50 or 60 years ago. While the essence and style of the steps remain intact, the technique of the art form has evolved, allowing dancers to access more range of movement and expression within the defining limits of the steps.
In the end, dance is a special beast. Ephemeral in nature, it cannot be rendered static. It defies efforts to be sealed in amber. We (The Dance and the dancers who dance it) change in response to one another.
I’m amazed by what you are doing. Much respect.