How to Fix External Hard Drive Not Showing Up on Mac? [6 Methods]

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • This video will introduce 6 effective solutions on how to fix the external hard drive not showing up on mac issue. Text tutorial for reference: bit.ly/3bVrLpX
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:59 Why external hard drive not showing up mac
    1:42 Method 1: Check the cable
    2:25 Method 2: Ensure enough power for the drive
    3:14 Method 3: Edit the Finder Preferences
    3:45 Method 4: Open "Disk Utility" to mount the external hard drive on Mac
    4:17 Method 5: Run First Aid on an external hard drive
    5:04 Method 6: Change the drive format (❗❗❗Warning: It can erase your data. Please carefully operate or skip this method.)
    5:53 Bonus: How to recover data from the external hard drive on Mac?
    Why is my external hard drive not showing up on mac? Many people might have asked the questions? an external hard drive not detected on mac due to different reasons including the USB port is broken, there are partition problems on the hard drive, Your MacBook’s drivers are outdated, the hard drive is formatted in the wrong file system, etc. Luckily, there are several solutions to fix the external hard drive not showing up on Mac error.
    First, check the hard drive’s cable and ensure it hasn’t encountered any physical damage. You can replace the cable with a new one and your MacBook will start recognizing the hard drive again. Also, check that the port on your Mac isn’t the problem. Try plugging into a different port. Or if you only have one, plug another device in and see if that works ok.
    Second, ensure enough power for the drive, as an external hard drive needs an adequate amount of power to connect to a computer.
    If changing the cable didn’t fix the mac external hard drive not showing up error, and there is no issue with the power, the next step would be to change the Preference settings of “Finder”, there you can check the video at 3:14s. If your Mac still doesn’t recognize the hard drive, you can use “Disk Utility” to access the drive. Here you need to open "Disk Utility" to mount the external hard drive on Mac. After that, if the external hard drive still not detected on mac, then Run First Aid in the Disk Utility. In case none of the previous solutions work, it’s possible that the hard drive is formatted with the wrong file system. So, you can try to change the drive format by using “Disk Utility” again.
    We hope you can fix the mac not detecting external hard drive issue from any methods introduced above. But in case, if it is still unable to repair issues, your drive truly is broken or formatted using a file system that the Mac cannot read - in this way we suggest you try Wondershare Recoverit to recover data from the disk drive.
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  • @RecoveritDataRecoverySoftware
    @RecoveritDataRecoverySoftware  2 года назад +17

    Hello everyone, when you try to use the 6th method in the video, ‼‼‼🤔please note that it can erase your data. So please carefully operate or skip this method.

    • @soruzein2988
      @soruzein2988 2 года назад +1

      pin this bro

    • @zeitakulobusta9708
      @zeitakulobusta9708 Год назад +1

      @@soruzein2988 Can or WILL?

    • @onmywaytogloryproductionz
      @onmywaytogloryproductionz Год назад +11

      Wtf why you ain’t say that in video

    • @BYang-fb2ff
      @BYang-fb2ff Год назад +6

      e.....why you didn't say in thevideo..now I erase my data...how to recover...omg...it is very important for me...

    • @leticiasouzaphoto
      @leticiasouzaphoto 11 месяцев назад +2

      I was about to run the 6th method but I ran to the comments first cause I knew I could lose all my data. Thank god I didnt. Still trying to get it fixed tho

  • @Fashion-Cybersecurity
    @Fashion-Cybersecurity 3 года назад +276

    Please it is important and let the audience know that formatting a disk erases the content and they may not be able to recover them. Just a hint before erasing or formatting a disk.

    • @minjipark1954
      @minjipark1954 2 года назад +16

      ikr…
      a lot of videos do this..
      they probabaly want to sell a software

    • @GL-Red
      @GL-Red 2 года назад +4

      @@minjipark1954 generally, yes

    • @thekaylataylorshow5907
      @thekaylataylorshow5907 2 года назад +21

      Exactly. because I just erased everything! very upset

    • @Brendaho3
      @Brendaho3 2 года назад +1

      @@thekaylataylorshow5907 did you buy the software? and if it works?

    • @DefaultName-ug5zo
      @DefaultName-ug5zo 2 года назад +4

      I've just done that exact thing, absolutely gutted.

  • @adistidaramutia9903
    @adistidaramutia9903 2 года назад +10

    My hard drive suddenly undetected on my mac. Then I tried all your methods. It worked on the fifth method. THANK YOU SO MUCH! May God reward the kindness of those who share knowledge

  • @captainavenger360
    @captainavenger360 2 года назад +7

    Thank you so much. I almost lost some animation files, after my hard drive got slightly corrupted. Thing unplugged from my laptop when I wasn't looking. You're a life saver.

  • @bbreyette
    @bbreyette 3 года назад +208

    what do I do if my external hard drive doesn't even show up in the disc utility ? the light comes on and there is power to it but can't find it

    • @Dizzy1989
      @Dizzy1989 3 года назад +15

      This is my issue, however this Recoverit has found a lot of files which I need to recover. However the software comes at a cost.

    • @AnthonyJohnston1
      @AnthonyJohnston1 3 года назад +55

      saaaaaame. none of this was useful for me. hard drive is spinning but not being recognized by ps4 or mac

    • @limitededitionp5577
      @limitededitionp5577 3 года назад +14

      same issue here, the drive seems to be running which makes me think the cord isnt the issue and i've tried it on multiple ports on different mac devices, no luck.

    • @AnthonyJohnston1
      @AnthonyJohnston1 3 года назад +10

      @@limitededitionp5577 I think the needle is stuck. The drive needs to be opened and the needle reset from what i found from other videos. I haven't bothered taking it to a shop to fix it but it seems to be the last possible answer.

    • @limitededitionp5577
      @limitededitionp5577 3 года назад +5

      @@AnthonyJohnston1 thanks for the answer! Guess I'll have to get mine looked at then

  • @emelsaat
    @emelsaat 2 года назад +72

    Thanks for the video. What happens if your external drive is not showing up at all in disk utility?

  • @nidzamjawis3146
    @nidzamjawis3146 2 года назад +7

    Very helpful, clear and easy to follow, thank you!

  • @freddyacosta2358
    @freddyacosta2358 2 года назад

    You’re a lifesaver bro! I just got an external hard drive and my iMac was not reading it. Tried the first 3 steps and nothing. It was until I erased the hard drive and formatted it again. It is now mounted and visible on my desktop. Thank you!

  • @rowdyreaver4599
    @rowdyreaver4599 Год назад

    Thank you. Was suddenly not able to access 50+ hours worth of footage for a project, you offered solution that worked!

  • @nudiaufia
    @nudiaufia 2 года назад +4

    The 4'th method really work for me! Glad to know you share this kind of effective explanation. Big thanks!

  • @c00l0ne
    @c00l0ne 3 года назад +4

    Thank you , very clear instructions! 👍🏽

  • @Hairjourney_vlh
    @Hairjourney_vlh Год назад

    Omg!!! I am so glad I found this video. I have been freaking out for months because my drive would not pop up on my Mac. After going through all the steps, the VERY LAST got the drive up and running. Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @neilrussell-bates4077
    @neilrussell-bates4077 2 года назад

    Thank you, followed all your tips and have got my back-up drive working again...brilliant!!

  • @emersonmartins
    @emersonmartins 3 года назад +22

    This was the best video EVER to solve my problem.
    Extremely easy to watch and go straight to the point.
    It deserves millions of likes.
    Thanks a lot mate.
    You are a gem.

    • @healthyandrew5294
      @healthyandrew5294 2 года назад

      Was quick but my Disk fell once and can't be found or fixed in Utilities. Dam. This sucks. I had all my important data on my Wd My passport. Flimsy drives.

  • @jasminearthur2844
    @jasminearthur2844 3 года назад +7

    Super helpful, clear and easy to follow, thank you!

  • @mavilvh3167
    @mavilvh3167 3 года назад +2

    The clearest explanations. keep on like that. I enjoy. Thank you.

  • @beachyTravels
    @beachyTravels 4 месяца назад

    THANK YOU! I have been trying to do this for MONTHS! Method 4 worked! and now it shows up every time!

  • @fabiandsouza8937
    @fabiandsouza8937 3 года назад +8

    Hi, love the video. I am still not able to view my External Drive even in the Disc utility. I took the drive over to a friend's Windows laptop and it show up with all the data on the drive. Please could you help find a way for the drive to show up on my MacBook

    • @heatherchristensen70
      @heatherchristensen70 2 года назад +1

      I have the same problem i can read my drive on Window laptop, but no longer on either my iMac or my macbook pro, my seagate external drive was formatted originally exfat. I am just trying to remove all the files without having to buy new hard drive, very frustrating

  • @33iDude
    @33iDude 3 года назад +15

    I tried everything its not showing up on my Mac
    Even though the light is on and i hear the drive is running.

  • @vinceramsperger700
    @vinceramsperger700 2 года назад

    You are awesome. I looked at so many other RUclips videos and websites, but you are the only one that helped. Had to reformat. Thank you

  • @Aajwa
    @Aajwa 2 года назад

    This is such an amazing video! Saved so many years of work!!

  • @thecodebloodedpixe9085
    @thecodebloodedpixe9085 2 года назад +13

    what to do if the external hard drive isn't getting detected in disk utility as well?

  • @princess_katana
    @princess_katana Год назад +1

    Thank you so much! Going to Disk Utility to mount my external hard drive worked for me! Amazing video!!

  • @tyler05
    @tyler05 10 месяцев назад

    I can't tell you the relief of getting back what you thought was maybe gone forever. Thank you so much!!!!!!! so helpful!!!

  • @kevinwalker5008
    @kevinwalker5008 3 года назад +19

    Just a point, when you mention changing the format in Disk Utillity does that not wipe the drive of all the files?

    • @palespectre4835
      @palespectre4835 3 года назад +15

      Yes, I can't believe he didn't mention that.

    • @tbut155
      @tbut155 3 года назад +3

      @@palespectre4835 i almost did this then common sense kicked in, then I read this comment. so glad i caught myself

    • @minjipark1954
      @minjipark1954 2 года назад +1

      @@palespectre4835 yea lowkey angers me

    • @norcalvandweller8401
      @norcalvandweller8401 2 года назад +3

      Erased everything, DAMN IT!!!
      I am so screwed!

    • @Pt0118
      @Pt0118 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, and I’ve completely wiped out my hard drive thanks to him 🤬

  • @guzjungjiraa
    @guzjungjiraa 2 года назад +12

    thank u for saving my life!!!

  • @edc3020
    @edc3020 9 месяцев назад

    Best instructional video and the first one I picked, what luck. I was able to format my new WD hard drive within 25 minutes. Great video, thanks so much!

  • @fandebudget9778
    @fandebudget9778 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video. I tried method 6 and it helped me to repair my external drive.

  • @EveryDayTrucker
    @EveryDayTrucker 3 года назад +4

    Ok bro, there's one thing you didn't cover which is something I've done many times before. Unfortunately, it's been a while and I always forget how to find it. So, when I plugged this external cradle in, I accidentally told the computer to ignore it. This means it doesn't matter what drive I put in, it doesn't see it. I've done this years ago and did figure it out. But I can't remember what to do! Can you help me?

    • @fynn6949
      @fynn6949 2 года назад

      do you know it now?

  • @LeonPhythian69
    @LeonPhythian69 3 года назад +4

    right, so how do you actually fix one that actually isn't showing up, by not showing up I mean it isn't in any list, not in the disk utility, not in the list on something like Disk Drill, basically actually not showing up, even when multiple tested cables and ports aren't helping the drive appear in any utility programme? as in NOT SHOWING UP ?

  • @RachelDesignsvideos
    @RachelDesignsvideos 7 месяцев назад +1

    You have brighten up my morning with suggesting we used the utilities disk to find our external hard drive.

  • @ZepplinOnFire
    @ZepplinOnFire 8 месяцев назад

    Articulate and proficient. Thank you for the clear, concise and precise manner in which you broke it all down. Very grateful!!

  • @marir5972
    @marir5972 3 года назад +3

    When you use the erase option on disk utility does it erase hard drive contents? Or does it just erase external hard drive from Mac?

    • @janine7825
      @janine7825 3 года назад +2

      This is my problem as well, I have so much of my portfolio on my external hard drive and I an afraid to press erase.

    • @TensileMasculinity
      @TensileMasculinity 3 года назад

      did you end up finding out? I have alot of playstation game data stored on it but its having this issue.

    • @marir5972
      @marir5972 3 года назад

      @@TensileMasculinity I was able to Mount device after hours of trying without deleting files. I unplugged it and plugged it a million times until it worked

    • @santiagobydesign
      @santiagobydesign Месяц назад

      @@marir5972 same, this just worked for me...

  • @o-SPECTRE-o
    @o-SPECTRE-o 3 года назад

    I managed to get my Hard Drive back thanks to you. You're a beautiful human being. I hope you know that. Thank you.

  • @djbalmaine379
    @djbalmaine379 Год назад

    I watched at least 15 videos and this is the only one that worked. Thank you!!!!

  • @dominos9025
    @dominos9025 Год назад

    YAY! Thank you! I had a disc stuck in my external hard drive that I could not locate on my computer and even my husband couldn't figure it out! Your video saved the day by showing me how to go to disc utility and find it there! My disc is out and I am pretty proud I was the one to do it-Thanks a bunch!

  • @thomasfenton2279
    @thomasfenton2279 Год назад

    Thank you for this.
    It was simple to follow, I managed to solve my problem strait away.

  • @JoyceBusola
    @JoyceBusola 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much! Was able to mount my drive after erasing it using disk utility.

  • @soakingscriptureswhenfaith3213

    Your vid really saved me from going to the tech support guys and have to pay a lot of money to get my drive fix! I subscribed and thumb-up for you deserve it! Thanks

  • @kennyblock4057
    @kennyblock4057 Год назад

    Thanks for this. Great to see a straightforward, concise video that was able to help me fix my problem!

  • @gregoryberman1177
    @gregoryberman1177 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, thank you so much for the incredible and very helpful video. I have an external hard drive that is, if you can believe it, 17 years old. I have a TON of memories on it that I thought I had lost forever. THANKS to you I was able to recover everything, and the drive is working fine now. You are the best! I highly recommend this video and your amazing skills at explaining how to fix an external hard drive. Happy New Year, and God Bless! 🙏

  • @ErmWhereisthetaxes
    @ErmWhereisthetaxes 3 года назад

    Worked like a charm! Thanks!

  • @nikaotto
    @nikaotto 2 года назад +1

    THANK YOU! The option with accessing it through disk utility and re-formatting (erase option) worked for me

  • @OdresNuevoMusic
    @OdresNuevoMusic Год назад

    thank you man saved my day

  • @ahmedabdelaziz9635
    @ahmedabdelaziz9635 Год назад

    After a very frustrating day, number 4 worked for me. Thank you so much

  • @funissakololo1079
    @funissakololo1079 Год назад

    Thank you !! It worked for me using the disk utility > ERASE > AFPS, now I have access to my external hard drive ! :) Very useful!

    • @mauricegold9377
      @mauricegold9377 11 месяцев назад

      So you threw away all the files you had on that drive, on the basis of info from someone on RUclips. It might be that you had nothing valuable on your drive, but it could equally be that you had lots of valuable files you needed.
      I'm saying this as a former systems-admin at the sharp end of all this kind of stuff for two decades. Beware these snake-oil salesmen selling you easy solutions where you are convinced to stop thinking, and exhorted to reformat your drive, without being told this will erase all your files, just for the sake of a hard-drive, which will now be empty. If your files are valuable, get an expert to check your drive and ignore this 'advice'.

  • @EustaquioSantimano
    @EustaquioSantimano 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for you very clear step wise instructions. I formatted my new external drive to Mac OS Extended and was able to access it from my old Mac.

  • @traceytokuhama-espinosa6155
    @traceytokuhama-espinosa6155 Год назад

    Excellent, clear, methodological, thank you!

  • @Robuilds_
    @Robuilds_ 2 года назад

    Thank you!!

  • @gailmanigsaca
    @gailmanigsaca Год назад

    CLEAR AND CONCISE. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @annierudolf7342
    @annierudolf7342 2 года назад

    Thank you so much. I just managed to get my external disk shown on my desktop after watching your video!!!

  • @saharmaleklou2547
    @saharmaleklou2547 2 года назад +1

    Thank you, It was really helpful 🤗 I assume that maybe my usb port has got damaged but you saved it.

  • @adriannebenzion5078
    @adriannebenzion5078 2 года назад +1

    I never leave RUclips comments but this video was super helpful. FirstAid saved my hard drive. Thank you!!!

  • @CyberGenious24
    @CyberGenious24 2 года назад

    Thank you very much . Running first aid worked for me .
    Actually i removed drive without unmount and got into issue.
    many thanks and love from India.

  • @KeithNolanMusic
    @KeithNolanMusic 3 года назад

    Very helpful thanks !!
    You guys rock !

  • @wgodlock
    @wgodlock 10 месяцев назад

    method 5 did the trick. Hard drive is back online. Great Video! Keep up the good work.

  • @TightTifannyPussPuss
    @TightTifannyPussPuss 2 года назад +1

    yoo method four thank you so much, I was losing my mind today

  • @MrsCowartsJourney
    @MrsCowartsJourney 2 года назад

    Very thorough video. Thank you

  • @carolynevert7125
    @carolynevert7125 2 года назад

    His tips worked!!! I was just about to buy a new hard drive and I'm so glad I didn't.

  • @pakopolo2053
    @pakopolo2053 2 года назад +1

    Gracias señor, I fixed the issue following the instruction on this video 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @RidingWithRhi
    @RidingWithRhi 2 года назад

    Worked for me - I had to reformat. Thanks so much!

  • @joetourist8443
    @joetourist8443 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks very much. I got my hard drive icon back after trying your disc utility suggestion. Very relieved.

  • @minhdangbay
    @minhdangbay 3 года назад

    OMG thank you so much!!! You just save my day!

  • @santacruzappliancerepair2297
    @santacruzappliancerepair2297 2 года назад

    OMG thank you sooo much! Every time i accidentally eject my external drive and then try to put in back in it wont show up. I have used your video like 5 times to get my external drive to show up again. Its always the last step that works (erasing) to finally get my drive to show up agian. THANK YOU THANK YOU!!

  • @elizabethandbriceida
    @elizabethandbriceida 2 года назад

    Easy step by step thank u😃

  • @bhumikapruthi8832
    @bhumikapruthi8832 2 года назад

    So helpful!! The fourth one worked for me.

  • @giovannadiminico2579
    @giovannadiminico2579 Год назад

    This video saved my external hard drive!!! Thank you SO much!!

  • @emmalynlabrador1115
    @emmalynlabrador1115 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much Dear, I actually bought new ssd,, i was so frustrated, as it thought I bought a damage one, & I am actually in the process of returning the item & refunding it...
    until I watched your video. it really helped me a lot,, now the SSD is being seen in both my macbook air & iphone 15 pro max. thanks much dear. you're so great.. more power.. love your videos.

  • @BrandVideoPro
    @BrandVideoPro 2 года назад

    Brilliant video! You saved me! Well done!

  • @hussainbarakat9667
    @hussainbarakat9667 Год назад

    Step 5 Run First Aid fixed my issue and the my hard drive is showing up now . Thanks !

  • @TheRepty818
    @TheRepty818 2 года назад +1

    The Disk first aid actually worked for me. Thank you so much. I was really upset because I thought I'd lost my files for good. Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!

    • @RecoveritDataRecoverySoftware
      @RecoveritDataRecoverySoftware  2 года назад +1

      Glad to hear that! Please hit the subscribe button.

    • @trinipuffs
      @trinipuffs 2 года назад

      Doing first aid didnt erase your files? Im freaking out please help

    • @TheRepty818
      @TheRepty818 2 года назад

      @@trinipuffs Honestly it's been a while so I don't remember what I did exactly but I did first aid and didn't do the full wiple For some reason after the first aid the files came back. Some where corrupted but majority were fine. I wish I could tell you what I did exactly but I don't remember.

  • @rego8347
    @rego8347 2 года назад

    Helpful, thanks! - Disk Utility and mount worked

  • @earthchildkobi4471
    @earthchildkobi4471 3 года назад

    I appreciate the assistance, first aid check.

  • @vsillah
    @vsillah 2 года назад

    Wow..thanks! #3 did it for me. I was freaking out! 👍🏿

  • @joshbingham4606
    @joshbingham4606 Год назад

    Thank you for this! This video saved my life lol! Not a single step worked for me accept the first aid trick and it took 3 tries!

  • @Gamingandlipstck
    @Gamingandlipstck 2 года назад +2

    This worked with my new SSD!! Thank you so much

  • @ClaudioDesideriFilms
    @ClaudioDesideriFilms Год назад

    The AFPS formatting worked for me, thanks!

  • @prashantkumar-wc6sj
    @prashantkumar-wc6sj 2 года назад

    Very helpful mate, thanks a lot.

  • @user-bi5di3tn2m
    @user-bi5di3tn2m Год назад

    Thank you. The 4th method has solved the problem. Very clear instructions.

  • @juventusfckid1
    @juventusfckid1 Год назад

    one of your suggestions sorted my issue! thanks so much!

  • @alexamitsu4319
    @alexamitsu4319 2 года назад

    Excellent advice Thank you so much!!!

  • @xyh5917
    @xyh5917 2 года назад

    Thank you! Super helpful!

  • @digibusinessbazaar30
    @digibusinessbazaar30 7 месяцев назад

    so proud you i am from india....i saw many videos on youtube but didnt got sol.........today i was planning to give disk to seagate but before laster i searched your video came it worked thanks dude

  • @ruths8885
    @ruths8885 2 года назад

    This was great, one of the steps worked for me!! Thank you. Years of work saved..... dear lord. I can sleep in peace tonight. thank you

  • @yvette192
    @yvette192 2 года назад

    You'r a life saver! THANK YOU!

  • @verityc88
    @verityc88 3 года назад

    You saved me! Thanks a lot!

  • @PriyaNegi05
    @PriyaNegi05 2 года назад

    Oh wow commendable...that erase option did it for me...thanks a ton 😊

  • @D1AK0NDA
    @D1AK0NDA 3 года назад +1

    Thank you very much! First Aid did it for me.

  • @Compass2101
    @Compass2101 11 месяцев назад

    Legend! Disc Utility First Aid worked for me. Cheers.

  • @flipflopsneeded
    @flipflopsneeded 3 года назад

    yup, disc utility worked! Thank you sir!

  • @matthewdavies269
    @matthewdavies269 11 месяцев назад

    Saved my life, thanks man. First aid worked!

  • @jhonnypalacios978
    @jhonnypalacios978 2 года назад

    THANK YOU! VERY HELPFUL!

  • @TalithaNeysa
    @TalithaNeysa 2 года назад

    THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR THIS 😭

  • @ilovewindows6851
    @ilovewindows6851 3 года назад +1

    Thanks soooooooo much 😭😭😭😭
    My drive wasent working and followed and skipped a little bit
    THE DRIVE ACTUALLY WORKS NOW
    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @victoriamurrell4115
    @victoriamurrell4115 2 года назад

    This was extremely helpful. Shout out to you.

  •  6 месяцев назад

    Thank you "Disk utility " Worked for me

  • @bastropfoodtrucks
    @bastropfoodtrucks Год назад

    I had to run first aid, this was perfect! Thank you!!

  • @summer9849
    @summer9849 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for saving my time. watched a ton of videos but you're the only one with the right solution.

  • @ChristosLouridas
    @ChristosLouridas 2 года назад +1

    Damn I never actually thought of the power issue. I was thinking either the partition I had on my first passport. And maybe for my second one after a while, I was thinking of the USB ports. But once I plugged the cable as you said. After a couple of minutes the hard drive showed up. Thanks a lot. And It's quite an old Mac Mid 13, I normally take on vacation to transfer files. You saved the day.

    • @PhilipABuck
      @PhilipABuck Год назад

      Thank you so much for mentioning literally unplugging it & then plugging it back in. I've tried like 10 or 15 "Solutions" and this is the first that worked. Years worth of work- back! Did you ever have trouble again with yours?

  • @patriciajessen5030
    @patriciajessen5030 2 года назад +2

    thanks I am forever grateful for your tutorial - yep said the day!