From what I heard, Wakui had some problems with the company where he published Tokyo Revengers and got his ass chewed alot, so he had to rush things and kinda put an end to it. He said some time ago that the ending would be bitter-sweet, but with how things went it’s clear why he changed the ending and left plotholes.
That's was the only "illogical" transformation which can still be argue since he wanted to be kisakis dog but...if kisaki wasn't a full on psycho would of he simp for him to the extent of the ending scene? Idk I think it was illogical, overall all the other characters weren't bad ppl just put in bad situation which is one of the main message the manga conveys which is "the underage prison system doesn't work and it does the opposite of its intention" like all the tenjiku band were bad simply because of there conditions at the prison which treat them like shit, Mikey and takemich beating them and then helping them improve makes sense to me as an end result and then kisaki wasn't always like that, but his lack of friends, solitude and jealousy lead him that path which then takemich helps him giving him a position and friends to be around with and redeems him, there are many illogical out of nowhere stuff but the characters transformation besides hanma is not one of them
I don’t think he was there purposely so that shin wouldn’t have been so obvious. Because literally Shin I’m never thought he was that special. with Hamma I feel like there’s still some unanswered questionsss
@@V---L Sorry, no. You cannot have a character orchestrate the deaths of several others just to try and turn around say, *He wasn't a bad person. Just lonely,* in the end. That's moronic and illogical. Once you commit your character to kill heartlessly without remorse, you establish them as evil
The story should've ended 100 chapters ago with Mikey's sacrifice. Everybody was happy and even Mikey was happy to have taken in all the pain so that his comrades could live happily. But Takemichi just had to give up everybody's happy future just to safe Mikey even tho he doesn't even want to be saved. Sadly, the series would never reach the quality of it's beginning again, but - despite the end - it's still an overall alright manga.
Tbh I feel like Takemitchy didn't have to go back in time in order to save Mikey. As much as I like the beginning of the final arc with Takemitchy saying that to Mikey that he will save him, it could have just been done in short conclusion. Maybe Takemitchy could have convinced Mikey to stop his life of crime, go to prison or an institution and get help. Something like that 💀. we didn't have to go back in time again.
Let’s not beat under the bush the ending made it a complete waste of time to even look at a trash series I wish I could go back in time and stop watching/reading this garbage
I was JUST telling someone this, also. Then after that, Draken died. It was at that moment I started hating Mikey. I would’ve rather had Draken alive, than Mikey. Everyone was HAPPY. And it was satisfying to see it
The "dark impulses" is really where this manga started to go all over the place and not land. Sure, I'm glad every character got a happy ending but with how messily everything was handled, a talk no jutsu ending would have been more satisfying than completely erasing all the characters we've grown to know and their struggles throughout the story
Nah nah in the end everything makes sense and the ending is much better. i bet if the manga stopped back then at pahs wedding everybody would have been sad and would have wanted ut to continue
“Dark impulse” is just another way of saying split personality disorder. Mikey’s been through a lot of traumatic experiences. And although he may be the strongest person in the manga physically, he always seemed mentally fragile since the beginning, so it makes sense that he would snap and turn into this really dark and emotionless person due to all of that
Hahaha just like Rental Girlfriend. Every week they're all present in the comments just to roast the manga. They developed a Stockholm Syndrome all together hahaha
Yknow maybe the dark impulses could worked if it was rooted from Mikey's trauma and bad mental health instead of a "curse". I think it would give the series more depth if they went in and explored that area in terms of charcter
Yknow thats why i feel like maybe they would put this Dark impulses as mikey's sadness or him hiding his rage all of the years he went through from losing his parents, sibling and friends thats what i thought it was thats why when i reread the tenjiku arc i theorized to myself that maybe angry has Dark impulses also like when he cries he just went psycho mode or blue ogre mode
Funniest thing was, that at first Takemitchi had to touch something to get the visions to the future but when fighting Mikey he got the visions from nowhere and I think you didn't even realise that they time leaped from the past time even more☠😭
@@pablo3125 the guy an illiterate idiot no offense, he's saying the way the mc got visions changed which I didn't even notice, and how it was also dumb for the mc to time travel back in time and then go back in time again as he's in the past which doesn't even make any sense to say is dumb. If you know ya know
no, they time leap mostly from dying, im pretty sure it's implied that dying makes you time leap because everytime takemichi died (or i guess on the verge of death) he went back, but the time changes, the first time was in middle school when he got pushed in front of the train, the second time when he was in highschool after mikey shot him, and then when he went back to elementary school after mikey stabbed him, hand holding/shaking just sends you to those time points
I like the happy ending, seeing everyone live on the correct path, I hate the execution. A lot of new things happened so suddenly to end things fast 💀 this series really went from peak delinquent manga to mehh
Yeah I have reeaallly low standards, if something’s entertaining then I’ll just eat it right up. But even I have to admit the ending is so poorly done, like they could’ve at least showed how they made each character good. The shock I got when I saw Izana, Hanma and even South Terano, like how the fuck??? After all the trauma they went through and the manga doesn’t even show us how they overcame that or at least how takemichi and Mikey managed to become friends with them at a younger age? It just went “Mikey lives = everyone happy” and that’s all.
That's the problem, in my opinion. I like the idea of the happy ending and all, but the fact that they didn't specify how Takemichi and Mikey managed to save all the characters who died in the previous timeline is what bothers me.
@@kuraihikari5785 its a german tv series just watch it arguably the best time travel story ever told it starts of a bit overwhelming but trust me it gets better
I think a better ending would’ve been to simply have Takemichi beat Mikey and talk some shit into him so that he gets the help he needs, even if it’s cheesy it’s a lot less messier plus the benefit of having the satisfaction of having the undefeated Mikey he beaten by my boi Takemichi
Or, instead of both time leaping in the past, Takemichi just gives the power to Mikey when he dies by katana and only Mikey goes to the path, the story can be open ended as to what Mikey does from there, maybe a hopeful future or a tragic "meant to be" type of loop.
Not me who was thinking the dark impulses are all the accumulated frustration,anger and madness that mikey feels from losing his friends and family ya know people like baji,kazutora and draken.But instead it's a curse caused by shinichiro killing a random hobo on the streets as if shinichiro dying to kazutora wasnt enough karma for him.
I would still recommend reading Tokyo Revengers even after the end. Everyone living sucks. But eh, a happy ending is fine. But I was kind of mentally checked out by the end. Takemitchy's goal was to save everyone. And he did. Not entirely satisfied. But the beginning made me cry a bunch and I think the journey was worth it in the end. One more chapter to go.
Honestly, I didn't mind everyone living, I just hated how quick the buildup to that ending was. It was literally a 1 chapter resolution and boom, happy ending. Oh and also the destruction of Naoto's character...that was a very interesting take.
i really dont understand ppl like u who like the suffering and the conflicts, i personally am too emotionally attached with the manga/anime that the happy ending in which everyone is alive (except kisaki, he deserves to stay dead) is the only timeline in which i can be happy and satisfied with
Takemitchy saved everyone with Mikey, but noone is the same character anylonger. For example, I think him and Chifuyu aren't best friends anymore. The bonds and character developments were lost by preventing all of the tragedies. So in the end it was a bit bitter sweet ending for me. At least that's how I keep thinking about it (preventing myself from being very disappointed).
If u read the last chapter the story is said by chifuyu so he rembemer everthying , and they have creat new bond togther thats why they all gathered to Takemitchy weeding
That's not the only problem, many conflicts were resolved off-screen without making much sense. Suddenly Kisaki isn't obssesed with Hinata, Taiju isn't a domestic abuser and South is a chill guy without his personal version of the Dark Impulses, to put some examples.
This is a quick summary of how this dark impulse thing was shown. The Curse, also known as the dark impulses, was set on Shinichiro by the previous time leaper. It was described by Shinichiro as karma, seeking for the one who killed the time leaper. This Curse haunted/hunted the current time leaper, trying to squeeze every last bit of happiness out of him and filling him instead with emptiness(as seen in Mikey´s case) and potentionally killing him. The Curse got on Kazutora, thus he actually killed Shinichiro. Now Kazutora is haunted by the curse and as we know Mikey was the one to kill him but since Shinichiro gave Takemichi the time travel ability without having to harm anybody, the curse has no one to haunt so it just remains. Mikey then was affected by this curse because he killed the one that was affected by it too. There still is no goal to be haunted so it remains thus Mikey became the person he is now(incl. his losses in friends and familiy). The only way to get rid of this curse for good, is to kill the previous time leaper that wasn´t affected by that curse so it´d just eradicate. Takemichi then got killed by Mikey with the curse, but the curse has no purpose anymore since Takemichi didn´t do anything for his ability for karma to strike him. Mikey then, by killing the time leaper, became the time leaper and leaped back. Now they got an happy ending where they can live without the curse since it got crushed. It is in some way logical, but the way wakui ended this is imo hella bad. An happy ending is the least that could help with the current situation but idk maybe the weird simps of this fandom are happy with it lmao
Bro Mikey is cursed since Shinichiro's first time leap, that's the reason for Sanzu's scars. Shinichiro killing the last leaper (who probably killed the leaper before him considering his situation) gave him "bad karma" which gave Dark Impulses to Mikey (first hurting Sanzu) and later Kazutora (that's why he's so sadistic when killing Shin but is instantly shocked realizing what he did). Kazutora is obviously not mentally strong to handle the DIs so he becomes pretty much insane while Mikey seems to handle them for atleast 10 years in the Bonten timeline. The time leaper can go back in time focusing on wishing to change something, for Takemichi it's his time with Hina, for Shinichiro is saving Mikey but both trigger near death despite one getting the power in the bad way (killing a leaper) while the other one gets it properly (being gifted). When Takemichi is close to dying he grabs Mikey's hand Shinichiro grabbed his while giving him the power, that is probably what breaks the cycle. Now that Mikey has the power both him and Takemichi wish to change the past so he uses him as his trigger and they go back another ten years, this time Mikey being a legitimate leaper which didn't get the power selfishly (I assume starting a cycle of "good karma" erradicates DI since Mikey clearly lacks it in his time leaper timeline) and Takemichi keeps his memories the same way Sanzu does (Shinichiro's trigger) or even like Mikey does (Takemichi's 2nd trigger) at the start of this arc where after Takemichi timeleaps he notices it and even says something like "So you came back" IIRC. I obviously think Tenjiku would've been a better ending but this one is getting too much shit because since the Tenjiku fight (since the "Blue Ogre" for me tbh) the storytelling has been way worse making Bonten/KantoMan a confusing arc overall and clearly the worst one to me
The way I understood it was that there were two curses, Mikey got the dark impulse and Shinichiro would die the same way he killed the original time leaper, if you read in the manga the old man told Shinichiro that there were two ways of getting the power, the first was to kill the holder, but Shinichiro didn't wait to hear the second part he jumped and killed the man with a metal pipe, and when the old man was on the ground he told Shinichiro that because of this he is now cursed, and the curse was Mikey's dark impulse and Shinichiro inevitably dying the way he killed the old man as Kazutors kills Shinichiro the same way by hitting him in the head with a metal pipe
i think one of my least favorite parts of the tokyo revengers ending was that one sentence of dialogue that takemitchy said when him and mikey time leaped where he goes "always fought this battle on my own , but now i have you" like man i was reading that going really takemitchy really we're just gonna pretend fucking chifuyu doesnt exist like chifuyu has been fighting with you aswell as draken and hina like mikey hasnt done shit takemitchy
I knew the second that Draken died that the ending was gonna somehow involve bringing everyone back to life. Also, I think if Tokyo Revengers had just ended after Kisaki was beaten and Takemichi's powers were revealed to everyone and they all went back to the future, it would have been much bettered. This whole last arc was completely unneeded and just completely ruined the manga.
The part where the main character said "I am.. the Tokyo Revenger." then revenged all over the place left me with tears. It was so unnexpected, and so well excecuted. 10 out of 10
I haven't read/watched Tokyo Revengers and don't plan on it, but I appreciate this trend of new shonen series ending sooner rather than later despite being popular. Compared to the era of the Big 3 where every series stretched itself too thin, often getting cancelled because of dwindling popularity, having the authors and editors realise it's time to move on is a lot healthier and gives the series a better send-off.
Ye I agree, it seems so short until you realize the manga has been serialized weekly since 2017, probably due to the fact that the anime was pretty late when adapting the source material.
I feel rlly mixed about this ending, there are so many moments where this arc could've been something special, but everything was just executed poorly and rushed. For example, Wakui making Shinichiro the time leaper is something I could get behind; it explains why Mikey was always suspicious of takemitchy ability after the Moebius Arc, and even before that when he questioned his age, BUT I hated how he made the time leaping ability something you inherited from person to person. It was a part of the story that didn't need lore, and it eliminated the possibility of more than one time leaper, destroying the best fan theory of Hanma being a time leaper, which creates many potholes of how Kisaki was always able to get the upper hand on Takemitchy in the future timelines. I also hated how they tackled Mikey's dark impulses, as I always felt that it was clear Mikey's Dark impulses were just symbolism for his depression caused by the death of his older brother and later his close friend. It didn't need to be explained through two extra backstories; readers could tell that Mikey had a shit life and later developed unnatural behaviours from said shitty life. I also hate plane backstory, not just because it was shit, but also because it retcons Sanzu's backstory chapter where Mikey puts him in Toman. Ruining the backstory of Mikey showing kindness to a misunderstood Sanzu who was always wrapped in gang trouble, to Mikey being the sole reason for Sanzu's troubles in the first place. This ruins the fact that Sanzu's loyalty isn't because he wants to return the kindness that Mikey once showed him, but instead into a Hanma clone, who's just in it to see his short companion succeed in their mission.
Dark impulses weren't a symbolism, it was shown it was a genuine thing therefore Mikey was never "bad" there was multiple tim travelers just not at the same time and the biggest fan theory was shin being a time leaper which did happen, kisaki always having the upper hand is not unreasonable by any means, takemichi skips decades in his time travels in *decades* kisaki can do a lot of stuff to get the upper hand in
@@V---L I didn't mean his dark impulses weren't genuine I was talking about how it was used as a symbolic term for his mental breakdowns or when he would become dissociative before the final arc where they completed changed this poetic term which signified the strain on Mikey's psyche, to some curse from his brother's time leaping. It strips Mikey of his mental severity undertones, which we've noticed throughout the manga and replaces it with a Nah, he's just cursed/ it's his destiny bs. This is what I meant when I said how it used to be symbolic, to Wakui changing it to a literal mechanic/curse during the final arc. It just ruins it. And yes, they were multiple time-leaper fan theories, but Shinichiro wasn't the biggest; Hanma was the most common and with only a minority of fans against it due to how obvious it was that he was the other time-leaper. And Kisaki being able to still be on top of Takemichi in every future timeline would be impossible if Hanma wasn't the timekeeper, especially because Kisaki was always at the right place and at the right time that it wouldn't be possible even with his high intellect. It had to be Hanma feeding him information about the future and past.
@@goat_sama8239 ok I get what you mean so I won't argue about the Mikey thing, since that's more subjective, hanma being a time leaper was a massive theory but so was shinichiro, then kisaki wasn't at the right time in anything he set up everything before hand and like I said takemichi when he goes back is literally decades pass where the kisaki issue wasn't completely eradicated and takemich also undermine Mikey's mental issues so after a literal decade I do think someone with the intellect of kisaki can manage to go back to the top
@@V---L You're right Shinichiro was also a massive fan theory, and with the Kisaki part, honestly depends on how the reader wants to view Kisaki. They could view him as some super genius who can solo Takemichi, who has the powers of leaping through time which makes him a formidable antagonist or have him be more grounded with the Hanma theory, where he's the one receiving intel, so he always has the upper hand in every timeline or even the Mikey theory, where Kisaki is the trigger and Mikey is the time leaper, which has some backing to it as when Kisaki gets fired from toman he begs to Mikey to change his mind while holding his hand up as if he wants to trigger the power or when he says to Mikey that he needs him.
@@goat_sama8239 To be fair, though, I think Kisaki always beating Takemichi in almost every timeline despite the latter's time leap ability isn't that big of a stretch, like @goat_sama8239 said. We've known that Kisaki's a genius, who always plans ahead and actually takes action to make it happen, so to see Kisaki beating Takemichi in almost every timeline is reasonable. I do know you mentioned that theory about Hanma being the time leaper, but then again, it's just a theory, and it didn't come true - although I think it would've been nice if it did. I do agree with your other points on how Ken Wakui-san turned Mikey's mental illness into some sort of an identity of his, though. I think it's too edgy in my opinion, and it sounds like something most Gen Z kids would do by romanticizing mental illness and making it look like a trait or stuff like that (You get the idea).
The poor execution of this final act of Takemitchy & Mikey hits harder if you read Undead Unluck or ReZero, where the cast pulls out all the stops to make things go differently with each step shown.
Maybe in the LN, but the anime ReZero had little to no explanation of how Subaru learned to defeat Beltegeese othe than "I know your weakness!" All of the sudden, which is absolutely awful writing.
I don't really know about rezero (because I've only watched the anime very long ago), but you are 100% right on undead unluck. Andy and Fuuko and all the negators really gave it their 110% just to get another chance.
@@ShouVertica Bro, it was shown in the anime that Betelgeuse was just a spirit controlling a body. Subaru was possessed by him and knew that if he took out all of his 'fingers' Betelgeuse would have no choice but to do it again. At which point Subaru gets Satella to kick him out of his body so him and Julius could end him for good. Literally all in front of you. Fuckin Speed Watcher
@@kuronotheavenger100 My guy, none of this is explained prior and then there's the weird ritual book thing, which had no explanation. It's all just done as "I found out the secret!" Without any explanation as to how. It's terrible writing. In fact it's so bad I'm surprised it isn't the go to meme, but I doubt people actually care about rezeros plot.
@@kuronotheavenger100 My guy, none of this is explained prior and them there's the weird ritual book thing. It's all just done as "I found out the secret!" Without any explanation as to how. It's terrible writing
Tokyo Revengers must be one of the most unique manga out there I mean, Wakui managed to drag and water down the story for what it felt like 100 chapters and still delivered an ending that feels rushed as fuck True display of skill
Glad you made this video to articulate your thoughts on the series. Suspension of disbelief is something you really need to have for this series to enjoy it. It was still a fun journey but stayed longer than it needed to be.
I feel a better origin story for the Dark Impulses would be that the Impulses originated from Mikey from the 1st timeline where he had the accident and the impulses emerged from all his dreams/ambitions that he could never achieve since he was gonna die, and they seeped through all the mikeys in the all the different timelines.
This final arc was a fever dream man. I think the downfall of the final arc really started with Drakens death and it was so controversial that it felt like the creator had no choice to do this retcon at the end. Like Shinichiro becoming a fucking god all of a sudden but still somehow gets packed up by Kazutora? Sanzu being a second time leaper was crazy considering most people though Kisaki was the timeleaper that takemitchi was having a ditto matchup against. Also Senju getting fucked so hard when she’s literally supposed to be a top player especially after that kuroko zone like thing where she has the glow pouring from her eyes. It’s sad how this series was rushed but I really believe that Tenjiku should have been the climax of the series. This happy ending isn’t bad but it’s just too complicated how they went through hoops and ladders just to say hey everyone’s a time leaper and now all those people you were sad and heartbroken about aren’t dead anymore.
Yeah, I do personally wish Ken Wakui-san just make the theory of Hanma being the time leaper come true or something. It's more fun and logical that way, after all, and would explain even better why Kisaki always wins against Takemichi in most of the previous timelines he's been in. Although, I do think it's just thanks to his intellect and planning skills that Kisaki was able to do that, but at the same time, part of me also thinks it would've been nice if it turns out Kisaki was, in fact, helped by a time leaper to achieve it this whole time, and that time leaper being Hanma. In fact, when I first saw the part with Takemichi and Kisaki's confrontation, where Kisaki ended up being hit by a truck, I thought when he said he had a feeling Takemichi's a time leaper, it could mean Kisaki just managed to guess it by judging Takemichi's suspicious behavior (Kind of like how Chifuyu had a feeling that Takemichi was one because of the latter telling Baji to not die during the Toman vs Valhalla fight as if Takemichi already knew what's gonna happen) or also because he happens to have Hanma, who's a time leaper himself (Had the theory been true).
I think the later part of the manga went well into showing the contrast between Takemitchy and Shinichero, which Shinichero fought to shelter his family compared to Takemitchy fighting for the sake of everyone never quitting till he found the solution he wanted he didn't kill or forsake anyone to get where he wanted.
been waiting to hear your thoughts on everything .. as a fan of this series I acknowledge the flaws and to be honest am disappointed with the approach of the ending but nonetheless I still enjoyed the journey.
I honestly despise this man. Cause he's the reason I even gave this series a chance. I should have never listened to him, I wished I could time leap and stop myself from watching his video on tr.
The ending works way better, if you imagine the latest chapter to be a last vision before he dies, making it even more tragic because of what could have been. So for me, Takemichi died but saved mikey from the dark impulses and had this last thought of traveling all the way back with mikey as he peacefully died
This ending is really give me my own dark impulsive, ugh. Honestly the more I think about this ending the more it makes me think about Undead Unluck. Like there doing a very similar thing currently in the manga and yet it so much better in comparison! Talk about a timely example how to and not to do this concept.
Literally erased all the character development if you just reset all the things you accomplished. It feels like all the bonds they made are just surface level if you can just redo it again.
@@top8505 your comment and his literally have nothing to do with one another...he never mentioned the ending being rushed or about unreasonable friendships, so he is right in what exactly? Because your comments are completely different
@@V---L he says all character development was gone. i agree our comments werent related that much but he is still right. Mny of the characters like chifuyu's character building and everyones motives were erased the second they were used as puppets to only reach an unrealistic dumb ending where everyone becomes friends for some dumbahh reason
The last chapter came out yesterday and it was the ending I hoped for. The final arc was rushed and messy and the final chapter doesn't change that. It'll be up to the anime to clean up the mess of a very good manga that stayed well past its time. It should've ended with the Tenjiku Arc. Despite that I have to say thank you Ken Wakui for this series.
I agree with your words! I initially was really hyped for the series and didn't mind the time travel aspect. The story could've and argued should've ended with Mikey dying or being evil but it didn't. So the author had to keep going and made paradoxes. The explanation of the time powers was when it was over for me.
the premise : you can only leapt through time a definite amount of years so there's no another second chance gotta make this count the ending : we fix everything by leap back further when everyone is alive because we got another second chance
Honestly I appreciate the risks the author took, and I'm a sucker for happy endings after all the fucked up seinen and shonen I've read, I appreciate it, I think it's a unique manga but I can see how it's not for everyone
Idk if I'm alone in this, but I feel like a Shinichiro side story, entailing his rise within the gang world would be a thrill to read! I feel like thats the only period of time Wakui has yet to seriously dive into. Plus, seeing the conflict between Wakasa and Benkei would be crazy!! While I'm not exactly a fan of the extremely rushed ending, I truly believe this manga was something special. And as controversial as Takemichi's character may be, he taught me the importance of standing up for your self worth. But overall, I really enjoyed Tokyo Revengers!
I don’t like the “it was all a dream” endings. I don’t think anyone does. But I’m really hoping this is all a dream takemichi has as he’s dying. I seriously doubt it, but the last chapter is so different from the rest of the series in tone, that I just hope that’s the case. God damn man, what happened to this series.
I think Tokyo revengers is very good until the last 5 or 6 chapters where it completely face plants. I think the author wrote himself into a corner and didn’t know how to get out of it so he just ended up undoing everything, so everyone could get a happy ending.
I already had my ending in my head. It's simply he acknowledges that he can't save Mikey instead he saves his memory like he is last seen Riding Mikey's motorcycle down Tokyo Road with his woman on his back and we see the images of Mikey his sister Emma and all the people he couldn't save in the sky as if they're watching him smiling and also does a bit of a summary where chifuyu becomes a Godfather to his kids and he names his kids Emma Mikey after those he couldn't saved my ending is he saves their memory basically he carries their Legend on.
Also, if Mikey timejumps as well and keeps his memories from the future/other life, then his dark impulse or whatever isn't gone because he's still the same person/had the same experiences? But everything's still okay even though he's the same person who just stabbed Takemichi a minute ago? Sometimes, the ending to a manga doesn't reaaaaally matter because it really is all about the journey, but when it is so plot driven and redefines everything that has happened so far, it definitely can make or break a story. So for me Tokyo Revengers should just be forgotten now. Thanks.
My read is the Dark Impulses are part of the curse on the time leaper; the hobo leaper's life is clearly shitty because taking the power the bad way cursed him too, Shinichiro's curse corrupted Mikey, who he cared for the most (and indirectly killed Izana and Emma too), and Kazutora, who ended up killing him. Shinichiro gifts the power selflessly to Takemichi, who gives it to Mikey creating a cycle of selflessness rather one of selfishness like the one started/continued by the hobo and Shinichiro, ending the curse since in Timeleaper Mikey's timeline he clearly doesn't have the DIs anymore
Never Seen masked boi try and justify a manga more to himself, It's like I can see the sadness and Masked screaming why. 197 should have been the last chapter
It feels like this show was supposed to end after Kisaki's death because of how much built up that final clash got. I kept thinking to myself "But why tho? This is so unnecessary." while reading the last arc of this
The ending was seemingly referenced when Takemitchi says to Chufuyu that he's going to save Baji even if he know how. It looks like the only way to save everyone was always to stay with Mikey, every time Takemitchi goes back to the future Mikey is just destroyed, sometimes killing everyone, or murder-suiciding himself and Takemitchi. The "Time Leap" power seem to be transferred two ways, one by murdering someone with " Time Leap" powers or for someone to transfer their powers willingly. In the ending Takemitchi, while dying, goes to transfer his powers to Mikey at the same Mikey is holding Takemitchi's hands, which is Takemitchi needs to go back to the future, but because Takemitchi is doing and because of their wish to go back into the past to fix everything and get to be together they both go back. I honestly both love this ending and somehow foresaw this ending while daydreaming what might happen next. (Though, at the end it felt like Takemitchi was more in love with Mikey than he was in love Hina, which confused the duck out of me. Still happy though!)
Regarding your last comment, I agree. Takemichi seemed to have more feelings for Mikey in the second part and vise versa. I am not a big shipper, but the way these characters are written I don't doubt that ship is strong.
I still remember the comment I made on the 1st video you made about Tokyo Revengers, I commented on how the story fell off so hard FOR ME after the revelation of Kisaki's motives and I got lots of replies that defended the story💀and calling me dumb, that's aight tho atleast I get to sleep soundly at night knowing that I didn't defend this trainwreck of show.
The problem was that he never gave the time travel powers any real rules or anything, allowing him to really pull anything he wants like being able to see a min into the future randomly when he was with Senju or the fact that mikey and takemitchy both time travelled. I had a feeling this is where it was heading when they killed Draken off so easily, I knew they wouldn't kill a character like that in the most punk way and leave it like that, with a show about time travel no way he stays dead like that and I was right. Is what it is with story, whatever happens next week it was a good ride regardless.
I liked the ending, but the double time leap was done very fast. I'd have preferred like 3 or 4 chapters with the two of them trying to save everyone and that being explained. But not a long thing, just like a narration explaining how they did it and how the bad guys, like Kisaki and Hanma specially, joined Toman and didn't do evil things.
to be honest i preferred the whole “kisaki driving mikey to madness” thing over the dark impulses. it made more sense. i also preferred it ending at the tenjuku arc, or not having kisaki killed then and have him continue on as the main antagonist. i also think they didn’t need shinichirou as a time-leaper, i feel like he worked good enough as a character before-hand, as an inspiration for mikey and a key to the valhalla(idk how to spell it) arc and kazutora’s motives there. the origin of the time-leap could have also been better explained, and not just “passed down from person to person” with no known origin. it was also painful to see the dead characters come back- don’t get me wrong, i loved the characters and was sad when they died, but it added more depth to the story and the characters. the ending with saving them all makes the rest of the story feel pointless. and all the character development is gone too- like with koko and inupii. with this new “perfect ending” their development never get concluded(i feel), because they never split paths. all in all, i loved the series, but not the ending.
And the manga ending perfectly fitted tachemichy's mindset... That was what the manga all about.. Even he said it a thousand times in manga that he will keep time leaping again and again unless he will find each n everyone happy . That's what he did guys.. What's wrong thenn????!?
So I have nothing to back any of this up but let me take a crack at breaking down what I think happened: The time leap power can be passed 2 ways: by actively giving it to a new user (Shinichiro to Takemitchy) Or by killing and taking it from the previous user(Hobo to Shinichiro) It’s also important to remember that a time leap can be caused not only by the trigger of a handshake but through the one who holds the power of the leaper to die. It’s important to keep both these in mind because when Mikey ran Takemitchy through with the sword he was the trigger for the timeleaps for this arc. Thus as Takemitchy was passing on, their hands came together and Mikey I think in that moment both took on the power of the time leaper, both his and Takemitchy’s desires of wanting a better future resulting in Mikey being sent to the past, while simultaneously triggering Takemitchy’s own time leap ability and sending him into the past as well. Thus either with them both being timeleapers, or perhaps because they are both happy with the outcome they have finally reached they are no longer able to time leap and thus the curse is essentially broken. This is just me spit balling based off the rules established as we know them
im my opinion, you missed something. when he said he should have asked the hobo all along, its not that simple...the hobo says its a curse, the dark impulses are a product of time leaping, and the hobo himself was a product of the destruction the dark impulse caused the people he tried to save with him ability, which made him seclude himself as a hobo unwilling to give his powers to shin..which is still speculation that makes alot of sense, but yea post kisaki's death the manga dint go well, although the end was sorto heartwarming
The ending was so disappointing with them travelling back in time again where everyone’s alive, and everyone got a happy ending and everyone became friends - it’s soo unrealistic. It felt like all the pain all the suffering and all the stories told throughout the manga was meaningless. The manga definitely should’ve ended when Mikey took everyone’s pain. This ending was so forced and unnatural, overall a huge disappointment.
Yeah like they should have just left all of the gang wars they had the same but obviously takemichi was there to stop mikey from getting angry id see how freaking izana got redeemed
The major problem for me is that the new timeline isn't even explicated, some ennemies became allies and we don't even know why, plus that doesn't really make sense for their character. Even more with the fact that the two time leaped before the whole Shinichiro's death that came straight out of fanfic and could have been done ages ago with some reflection. I'm pretty sure Takemichi could have time leaped with Kazutora because of his guilt, he could have been a good trigger. I liked the idea of karma introduced with Shinichiro's flachback and that you have to pay for what you've done but again the time leaping thing ruined it for me. Shinichiro shouldn't have been saved from all people (you can see I'm not a big fan of the guy, too compared to our hero, too much idolized that I became sick of him, people simped for him even when they didn't know him at all just bit and pieces here and there and the constant reminder that he was a ripoff Takemichi).
The problem I have is that the author has fundamentally messed with how he’s established the power worked in order to serve the story’s happy ending. Instead of being about how you can’t change the past and how you just have to let some things go in order to better the life you currently have, by showing that no matter what, Mikey can’t be saved, author says screw that and fumbles the bag so hard. Granted I like a happy ending but this type of story should’ve ended with a bittersweet somber ending.
To be completely honest I've been enjoying this arc for the most part. I do find this ending really rushed though. I'm personally hoping when the anime adapts this arc we can maybe get an anime original ending where Takemichi and Mikey fight where they hung out after the Christmas battle. I can just see Takemichi punching Mikey and then Mikey just dicides to stay on the ground and say he won.
I just really disliked how Draken's revival was brushed off in the end, he was such an important character and his death was already a focal part of the story, when everyone was brought back he wasn't even acknowledged.
This comparision may be painful for you since you've known the series since it was underground but here I go. As someone who isn't caught up to the series the general reaction I keep hearing sounds like Seven Deadly Sins where the highs are high but the lows are so low you question if the highs were just a fluke.
Personally I have a mix feeling about the ending. Like the ending was kind of cliche for time travel story, like the whole the journey and character development wasted after Takemitchy and Mikey both travel back in time. Also I just kind of annoyed how Kisaki was pretty much forgiven now part of the gang when the new timeline reset. Also wish they explain how Kisaki knew Shinichrio was a timeleaper, not to mention wish they explore more of Sanzu side of the story. So I feel like the ending was bit rushed and kind of lazy writing since they never really explain where the time travel power even come from.
They should have ended on the boten arc but I still like the series wish ken wakui made the time travel come full circlish or more fluid like isaymam and how he used time travel
My take on both of them time leaping is that in takemichi’s last moments, he tried to give Mikey his powers but the transfer was incomplete and so Mikey only received half of them in that moment. Idk if Mikey and takemichi were both each others triggers in that moment but it’s possible
When Takemichi decided to basically give a middle finger to everyone to chase after Mikey in Bonten for the stupidest reason possible (giving wedding invitation to wanted crime boss for cop's sisters' wedding) it was the first time my Tokyo Revengers blind love goggles were taken off. (Warning: Spoilers belov for THE FINAL chapter that hasn't been released yet, but I saw full spoilers on it) Then when time leap happened and all of the work so far (everyone's happiness) got undone by it was when it started stinking to me even more, but at the same time I still didn't abandon the ship fully because I still had faith in this series so I kept thinking that author surely will know what the hell is he doing and why he is doing it... until Draken died for no reason. Like literally no reason at all since the only reason why he died was to make sure Senju lives in this timeline, and Senju didn't DO SHIT THIS ARC! Despite EVEN THAT the other side of my mind kept thinking that there must be reason for this, right? Everything will start making sense by the end, right? I'm just jumping at the gun too early, RIGHT? Nope. Instead I get slapped with edgy impulses bullshit that invalidates not only Mikey's character, but the character of everyone around him since everything bad seems to be thanks to this stupid ass curse caused by some random hobo. How does that get solved? By Takemichi getting stabbed, hugging Mikey and telling him he is his friend which makes Mikey cry and they both assleap even further in the past and then magically fix every problem that exists no matter how little sense it bloody makes. Like Inupi no longer having scar. Did removal of "shitty writing impulses" remove fire accident or what? Why are him and Koko still in BD when none of them no longer has the motive to create such gang with Taiju? Speaking of Taiju, what happened to his abusive impulses there? Did they talk-no-jutsu those out of him, or did they simply vanish with the removel of curse as well? WHY THE HELL DOES TENJIKU EXIST ESPECIALLY IN THIS TIMELINE? The only reason why they existed back then was due to Kisaki manipulating hobo Izana into making that gang. So what the hell are they doing in this timeline when Kisaki is no longer Kisaki? It's dumb as hell. Then you got upcoming chapter (SPOILER) that has good South. Like what!?!?!? This whole's man character was that he loves violence because he does! How the hell is he "pals" with Mickey Mouse crew? How is he not taking over Tokyo again? How is he not-South? Did Mickey and Goofy fly to Brasil to prevent South's tragic life, or did it magically got solved because no hobo curse so that means everything is fine now? Let us not even go into Hanma whose whole character was that he loved chaos and that is the reason why he bonded with Kisaki. Now Hanma apparently is ok with being with Disney's team and is still for some reason following Kisaki even though this is the most boring version of Kisaki (according to Hanma's definition of boring) that Hanma would never care to follow in other timelines. Honestly, one of the worst ending if not the worst I personally saw. At least other garbage endings didn't go this far to invalidate their whole manga and characters to this degree, or in Prison School's case, that was author trying to screw over publishers who were screwing him so that's why the ending is the way it is. This on another hand? Wakui is claiming that he had ending planned all along since Vahalla? I just... I apologize to everyone who I may have recommended this manga at one point. That is all I have left to say.
We rarely get a good endings in manga/anime. I think this manga was very refreshing in many ways. Even the ending. The characters deserved to be happy. People hate the ending because it felt like the story played with our emotions and it was all for nothing in the end. I do agree that it was very rushed, though.
So I am so confused ...just finished the anime. It started out him trying to save his old girlfriend but did he end up just picking the gang over her? I am confused because I thought the ending would have something to do with her
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From what I heard, Wakui had some problems with the company where he published Tokyo Revengers and got his ass chewed alot, so he had to rush things and kinda put an end to it. He said some time ago that the ending would be bitter-sweet, but with how things went it’s clear why he changed the ending and left plotholes.
Where the H is Devoro ch 2?
Hey, ever wonder if all the times someone time leaped the time they left became an alternate timeline?
This ending was the definition of
"maybe the real tokyo revengers were the friends we made along the way"
😭😭😭😭
💀💀
i kinda liked it because i didnt see it coming XD
it was so Good Ending That we all wanted to seee... Stop giving non sense hate
@@edwardperkins999 well whit that line of thinking i can throw on you an electric cow whit a weird mustash and break your legs and you should like it
When Takamichi said “It’s Revenging time” to make Kiseki a good guy, I Tokyo’d all over the floor. Definitely one of the manga of al time.
Tokyo revengers, what a manga you are
Truly the manga of al time🥲
Also when mikey said “I’m a true Tokyo revenger”
funniest shit i've read all week
first show to make a Bajillion dollars
Not Hanma being a legitimate psycho murderer through the whole story just to go “this truly was a Tokyo Revengers.” And become a good guy
That's was the only "illogical" transformation which can still be argue since he wanted to be kisakis dog but...if kisaki wasn't a full on psycho would of he simp for him to the extent of the ending scene? Idk I think it was illogical, overall all the other characters weren't bad ppl just put in bad situation which is one of the main message the manga conveys which is "the underage prison system doesn't work and it does the opposite of its intention" like all the tenjiku band were bad simply because of there conditions at the prison which treat them like shit, Mikey and takemich beating them and then helping them improve makes sense to me as an end result and then kisaki wasn't always like that, but his lack of friends, solitude and jealousy lead him that path which then takemich helps him giving him a position and friends to be around with and redeems him, there are many illogical out of nowhere stuff but the characters transformation besides hanma is not one of them
That line was canon
I don’t think he was there purposely so that shin wouldn’t have been so obvious. Because literally Shin I’m never thought he was that special. with Hamma I feel like there’s still some unanswered questionsss
@@oriharaizaya5524 no
@@V---L Sorry, no. You cannot have a character orchestrate the deaths of several others just to try and turn around say, *He wasn't a bad person. Just lonely,* in the end. That's moronic and illogical. Once you commit your character to kill heartlessly without remorse, you establish them as evil
Can't wait for Shibuya Revengers
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Soooo JJK?
@@Advokit Ah yes, JJK's Shibuya arc was so good that they made it into a real place in japan
@@theoriginalman9426 Everyone knows Shibuya became a real place because of Persona
Personally I'm waiting for Shinjuku Revengers
I cried when Mikey said “The revengers is real.”
Can we get much higher?
@@nekorinnyan2063 so high
@@wellyesbutno5639 soooo hiiigh
@@milesparker6992 oh oh oh oh oh oh
@@inkbagz3455 can we get much higher
The story should've ended 100 chapters ago with Mikey's sacrifice. Everybody was happy and even Mikey was happy to have taken in all the pain so that his comrades could live happily. But Takemichi just had to give up everybody's happy future just to safe Mikey even tho he doesn't even want to be saved. Sadly, the series would never reach the quality of it's beginning again, but - despite the end - it's still an overall alright manga.
Fr, I was so damn pissed when that happened
Tbh I feel like Takemitchy didn't have to go back in time in order to save Mikey. As much as I like the beginning of the final arc with Takemitchy saying that to Mikey that he will save him, it could have just been done in short conclusion. Maybe Takemitchy could have convinced Mikey to stop his life of crime, go to prison or an institution and get help. Something like that 💀. we didn't have to go back in time again.
The manga is shit
Let’s not beat under the bush the ending made it a complete waste of time to even look at a trash series I wish I could go back in time and stop watching/reading this garbage
I was JUST telling someone this, also. Then after that, Draken died. It was at that moment I started hating Mikey. I would’ve rather had Draken alive, than Mikey. Everyone was HAPPY. And it was satisfying to see it
The "dark impulses" is really where this manga started to go all over the place and not land. Sure, I'm glad every character got a happy ending but with how messily everything was handled, a talk no jutsu ending would have been more satisfying than completely erasing all the characters we've grown to know and their struggles throughout the story
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Nah nah in the end everything makes sense and the ending is much better. i bet if the manga stopped back then at pahs wedding everybody would have been sad and would have wanted ut to continue
@@jebm7706 lil bro over here coping 💀
“Dark impulse” is just another way of saying split personality disorder. Mikey’s been through a lot of traumatic experiences. And although he may be the strongest person in the manga physically, he always seemed mentally fragile since the beginning, so it makes sense that he would snap and turn into this really dark and emotionless person due to all of that
EXCATLY
The biggest Tokyo Revengers haters are the fans (I’m one of them). Every week we gathered together to roast the chapter. This started post tenjiku.
Hahaha just like Rental Girlfriend. Every week they're all present in the comments just to roast the manga. They developed a Stockholm Syndrome all together hahaha
@@kaelthunderhoof5619 As a member of the rental girlfriend server, I can confirm.
@@kaelthunderhoof5619Remember when gigguk said rental girlfriend would be one of the best anime and praised it? Boi did that age poorly.
Yknow maybe the dark impulses could worked if it was rooted from Mikey's trauma and bad mental health instead of a "curse". I think it would give the series more depth if they went in and explored that area in terms of charcter
I know, I thought that was what it was going to be. Kind of disappointing.
Fr. That would've been much better.
That's what I thought they was going but they said nah Voodoo time travel curse go brrr
Yknow thats why i feel like maybe they would put this Dark impulses as mikey's sadness or him hiding his rage all of the years he went through from losing his parents, sibling and friends thats what i thought it was thats why when i reread the tenjiku arc i theorized to myself that maybe angry has Dark impulses also like when he cries he just went psycho mode or blue ogre mode
@@itsme558 especially since they originally seemed rooted in Emma’s death
Funniest thing was, that at first Takemitchi had to touch something to get the visions to the future but when fighting Mikey he got the visions from nowhere and I think you didn't even realise that they time leaped from the past time even more☠😭
What?
@@pablo3125 the guy an illiterate idiot no offense, he's saying the way the mc got visions changed which I didn't even notice, and how it was also dumb for the mc to time travel back in time and then go back in time again as he's in the past which doesn't even make any sense to say is dumb. If you know ya know
no, they time leap mostly from dying, im pretty sure it's implied that dying makes you time leap because everytime takemichi died (or i guess on the verge of death) he went back, but the time changes, the first time was in middle school when he got pushed in front of the train, the second time when he was in highschool after mikey shot him, and then when he went back to elementary school after mikey stabbed him, hand holding/shaking just sends you to those time points
@@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW ...Bro, what? It was both, because he went back in time by touching Naoto's hand, before.
Because when he died I think like Nahichiro did with the old man, Mikey got the time-leap power from Takemichi and get back to the past
I like the happy ending, seeing everyone live on the correct path,
I hate the execution. A lot of new things happened so suddenly to end things fast 💀 this series really went from peak delinquent manga to mehh
Yeah I have reeaallly low standards, if something’s entertaining then I’ll just eat it right up. But even I have to admit the ending is so poorly done, like they could’ve at least showed how they made each character good. The shock I got when I saw Izana, Hanma and even South Terano, like how the fuck??? After all the trauma they went through and the manga doesn’t even show us how they overcame that or at least how takemichi and Mikey managed to become friends with them at a younger age? It just went “Mikey lives = everyone happy” and that’s all.
That's the problem, in my opinion. I like the idea of the happy ending and all, but the fact that they didn't specify how Takemichi and Mikey managed to save all the characters who died in the previous timeline is what bothers me.
The entire final arc felt like a fanfiction.
GO TO BED BRO😭😭💀
The entire manga is a fan fiction by 8 yo girl lol
That's such a trash... Wtf is this😭
@@Ap7-b4k now you are just hating
I cried when Tokyo said "Revengers assemble"
Honestly steins gate did time travel the best and had a clever way to save one of its characters
Steins Gate is just goated
Dark in my opinion did it even better but yea both of them are really good
@@emeraldsplash7137 what’s Dark?
@@kuraihikari5785 its a german tv series just watch it arguably the best time travel story ever told it starts of a bit overwhelming but trust me it gets better
@@smallwingedcondor interesting. Never heard of it before so thanks for letting me know. I’ll check it out.
I think a better ending would’ve been to simply have Takemichi beat Mikey and talk some shit into him so that he gets the help he needs, even if it’s cheesy it’s a lot less messier plus the benefit of having the satisfaction of having the undefeated Mikey he beaten by my boi Takemichi
It would connect to the whole thing about making mikey see the sky, since he would lose the title of “invincible mikey”, so I agree.
I guess but there’s no amount of help Mikey could’ve gotten, since it was a curse that made him that way
But then what about all those people kisaki draken baji and others
@@Addythedaddy30 dead .a bitter sweat ending.
Or, instead of both time leaping in the past, Takemichi just gives the power to Mikey when he dies by katana and only Mikey goes to the path, the story can be open ended as to what Mikey does from there, maybe a hopeful future or a tragic "meant to be" type of loop.
Not me who was thinking the dark impulses are all the accumulated frustration,anger and madness that mikey feels from losing his friends and family ya know people like baji,kazutora and draken.But instead it's a curse caused by shinichiro killing a random hobo on the streets as if shinichiro dying to kazutora wasnt enough karma for him.
I would still recommend reading Tokyo Revengers even after the end. Everyone living sucks. But eh, a happy ending is fine. But I was kind of mentally checked out by the end. Takemitchy's goal was to save everyone. And he did. Not entirely satisfied. But the beginning made me cry a bunch and I think the journey was worth it in the end. One more chapter to go.
Yeah I'm satisfied with the ending..Atleast everyone is alive, thats what takemitchi wanted ..
Honestly, I didn't mind everyone living, I just hated how quick the buildup to that ending was. It was literally a 1 chapter resolution and boom, happy ending. Oh and also the destruction of Naoto's character...that was a very interesting take.
The authour has confirmed there will be a special arc explaining the rushed ending in November 2023
where is it? @@darkboi6394
i really dont understand ppl like u who like the suffering and the conflicts, i personally am too emotionally attached with the manga/anime that the happy ending in which everyone is alive (except kisaki, he deserves to stay dead) is the only timeline in which i can be happy and satisfied with
Takemitchy saved everyone with Mikey, but noone is the same character anylonger. For example, I think him and Chifuyu aren't best friends anymore. The bonds and character developments were lost by preventing all of the tragedies. So in the end it was a bit bitter sweet ending for me. At least that's how I keep thinking about it (preventing myself from being very disappointed).
Mikey and draken arent best friends anymore
If u read the last chapter the story is said by chifuyu so he rembemer everthying , and they have creat new bond togther thats why they all gathered to Takemitchy weeding
@@justajobro1266 Mikey became a Motorcycle racer and Draken became his personal Motor mechanic, so they still probably are best friends
That's not the only problem, many conflicts were resolved off-screen without making much sense. Suddenly Kisaki isn't obssesed with Hinata, Taiju isn't a domestic abuser and South is a chill guy without his personal version of the Dark Impulses, to put some examples.
@@nicokrasnow1851 Maybe they all had some form of Dark Impulses and they all faded away, like a change of heart from Persona 5
This is a quick summary of how this dark impulse thing was shown.
The Curse, also known as the dark impulses, was set on Shinichiro by the previous time leaper. It was described by Shinichiro as karma, seeking for the one who killed the time leaper. This Curse haunted/hunted the current time leaper, trying to squeeze every last bit of happiness out of him and filling him instead with emptiness(as seen in Mikey´s case) and potentionally killing him. The Curse got on Kazutora, thus he actually killed Shinichiro. Now Kazutora is haunted by the curse and as we know Mikey was the one to kill him but since Shinichiro gave Takemichi the time travel ability without having to harm anybody, the curse has no one to haunt so it just remains. Mikey then was affected by this curse because he killed the one that was affected by it too. There still is no goal to be haunted so it remains thus Mikey became the person he is now(incl. his losses in friends and familiy). The only way to get rid of this curse for good, is to kill the previous time leaper that wasn´t affected by that curse so it´d just eradicate. Takemichi then got killed by Mikey with the curse, but the curse has no purpose anymore since Takemichi didn´t do anything for his ability for karma to strike him. Mikey then, by killing the time leaper, became the time leaper and leaped back. Now they got an happy ending where they can live without the curse since it got crushed.
It is in some way logical, but the way wakui ended this is imo hella bad. An happy ending is the least that could help with the current situation but idk maybe the weird simps of this fandom are happy with it lmao
Bro Mikey is cursed since Shinichiro's first time leap, that's the reason for Sanzu's scars. Shinichiro killing the last leaper (who probably killed the leaper before him considering his situation) gave him "bad karma" which gave Dark Impulses to Mikey (first hurting Sanzu) and later Kazutora (that's why he's so sadistic when killing Shin but is instantly shocked realizing what he did). Kazutora is obviously not mentally strong to handle the DIs so he becomes pretty much insane while Mikey seems to handle them for atleast 10 years in the Bonten timeline.
The time leaper can go back in time focusing on wishing to change something, for Takemichi it's his time with Hina, for Shinichiro is saving Mikey but both trigger near death despite one getting the power in the bad way (killing a leaper) while the other one gets it properly (being gifted). When Takemichi is close to dying he grabs Mikey's hand Shinichiro grabbed his while giving him the power, that is probably what breaks the cycle. Now that Mikey has the power both him and Takemichi wish to change the past so he uses him as his trigger and they go back another ten years, this time Mikey being a legitimate leaper which didn't get the power selfishly (I assume starting a cycle of "good karma" erradicates DI since Mikey clearly lacks it in his time leaper timeline) and Takemichi keeps his memories the same way Sanzu does (Shinichiro's trigger) or even like Mikey does (Takemichi's 2nd trigger) at the start of this arc where after Takemichi timeleaps he notices it and even says something like "So you came back" IIRC.
I obviously think Tenjiku would've been a better ending but this one is getting too much shit because since the Tenjiku fight (since the "Blue Ogre" for me tbh) the storytelling has been way worse making Bonten/KantoMan a confusing arc overall and clearly the worst one to me
YOU SAID QUICK,THATS A WHOLE COLLEGE THESIS
The way I understood it was that there were two curses, Mikey got the dark impulse and Shinichiro would die the same way he killed the original time leaper, if you read in the manga the old man told Shinichiro that there were two ways of getting the power, the first was to kill the holder, but Shinichiro didn't wait to hear the second part he jumped and killed the man with a metal pipe, and when the old man was on the ground he told Shinichiro that because of this he is now cursed, and the curse was Mikey's dark impulse and Shinichiro inevitably dying the way he killed the old man as Kazutors kills Shinichiro the same way by hitting him in the head with a metal pipe
@@ivesacrificedseveralchildr5645 bro you need to read more
Wait but
How did they both time leap at the same time??
That part i don't understand
i think one of my least favorite parts of the tokyo revengers ending was that one sentence of dialogue that takemitchy said when him and mikey time leaped where he goes "always fought this battle on my own , but now i have you" like man i was reading that going really takemitchy really we're just gonna pretend fucking chifuyu doesnt exist like chifuyu has been fighting with you aswell as draken and hina like mikey hasnt done shit takemitchy
Chifuyu doesn't give enough credit 😂
Truly most manga of all time. i like when the main character say: it's tokyin time, and then he's tokyined everyone in the room
And at the end tokyo revengers was the friends we made along the way
Haha
I knew the second that Draken died that the ending was gonna somehow involve bringing everyone back to life. Also, I think if Tokyo Revengers had just ended after Kisaki was beaten and Takemichi's powers were revealed to everyone and they all went back to the future, it would have been much bettered. This whole last arc was completely unneeded and just completely ruined the manga.
The part where the main character said "I am.. the Tokyo Revenger." then revenged all over the place left me with tears. It was so unnexpected, and so well excecuted. 10 out of 10
I haven't read/watched Tokyo Revengers and don't plan on it, but I appreciate this trend of new shonen series ending sooner rather than later despite being popular. Compared to the era of the Big 3 where every series stretched itself too thin, often getting cancelled because of dwindling popularity, having the authors and editors realise it's time to move on is a lot healthier and gives the series a better send-off.
read it up to the tenjiku arc
Our issue is he could have ended it before it got this bad but he didn't
Bro one piece is more than 1000 chapters and it's still going strong
Ye I agree, it seems so short until you realize the manga has been serialized weekly since 2017, probably due to the fact that the anime was pretty late when adapting the source material.
They still letting one piece drag for whatever reason
I feel rlly mixed about this ending, there are so many moments where this arc could've been something special, but everything was just executed poorly and rushed. For example, Wakui making Shinichiro the time leaper is something I could get behind; it explains why Mikey was always suspicious of takemitchy ability after the Moebius Arc, and even before that when he questioned his age, BUT I hated how he made the time leaping ability something you inherited from person to person. It was a part of the story that didn't need lore, and it eliminated the possibility of more than one time leaper, destroying the best fan theory of Hanma being a time leaper, which creates many potholes of how Kisaki was always able to get the upper hand on Takemitchy in the future timelines. I also hated how they tackled Mikey's dark impulses, as I always felt that it was clear Mikey's Dark impulses were just symbolism for his depression caused by the death of his older brother and later his close friend. It didn't need to be explained through two extra backstories; readers could tell that Mikey had a shit life and later developed unnatural behaviours from said shitty life. I also hate plane backstory, not just because it was shit, but also because it retcons Sanzu's backstory chapter where Mikey puts him in Toman. Ruining the backstory of Mikey showing kindness to a misunderstood Sanzu who was always wrapped in gang trouble, to Mikey being the sole reason for Sanzu's troubles in the first place. This ruins the fact that Sanzu's loyalty isn't because he wants to return the kindness that Mikey once showed him, but instead into a Hanma clone, who's just in it to see his short companion succeed in their mission.
Dark impulses weren't a symbolism, it was shown it was a genuine thing therefore Mikey was never "bad" there was multiple tim travelers just not at the same time and the biggest fan theory was shin being a time leaper which did happen, kisaki always having the upper hand is not unreasonable by any means, takemichi skips decades in his time travels in *decades* kisaki can do a lot of stuff to get the upper hand in
@@V---L I didn't mean his dark impulses weren't genuine I was talking about how it was used as a symbolic term for his mental breakdowns or when he would become dissociative before the final arc where they completed changed this poetic term which signified the strain on Mikey's psyche, to some curse from his brother's time leaping. It strips Mikey of his mental severity undertones, which we've noticed throughout the manga and replaces it with a Nah, he's just cursed/ it's his destiny bs. This is what I meant when I said how it used to be symbolic, to Wakui changing it to a literal mechanic/curse during the final arc. It just ruins it. And yes, they were multiple time-leaper fan theories, but Shinichiro wasn't the biggest; Hanma was the most common and with only a minority of fans against it due to how obvious it was that he was the other time-leaper. And Kisaki being able to still be on top of Takemichi in every future timeline would be impossible if Hanma wasn't the timekeeper, especially because Kisaki was always at the right place and at the right time that it wouldn't be possible even with his high intellect. It had to be Hanma feeding him information about the future and past.
@@goat_sama8239 ok I get what you mean so I won't argue about the Mikey thing, since that's more subjective, hanma being a time leaper was a massive theory but so was shinichiro, then kisaki wasn't at the right time in anything he set up everything before hand and like I said takemichi when he goes back is literally decades pass where the kisaki issue wasn't completely eradicated and takemich also undermine Mikey's mental issues so after a literal decade I do think someone with the intellect of kisaki can manage to go back to the top
@@V---L You're right Shinichiro was also a massive fan theory, and with the Kisaki part, honestly depends on how the reader wants to view Kisaki. They could view him as some super genius who can solo Takemichi, who has the powers of leaping through time which makes him a formidable antagonist or have him be more grounded with the Hanma theory, where he's the one receiving intel, so he always has the upper hand in every timeline or even the Mikey theory, where Kisaki is the trigger and Mikey is the time leaper, which has some backing to it as when Kisaki gets fired from toman he begs to Mikey to change his mind while holding his hand up as if he wants to trigger the power or when he says to Mikey that he needs him.
@@goat_sama8239 To be fair, though, I think Kisaki always beating Takemichi in almost every timeline despite the latter's time leap ability isn't that big of a stretch, like @goat_sama8239 said. We've known that Kisaki's a genius, who always plans ahead and actually takes action to make it happen, so to see Kisaki beating Takemichi in almost every timeline is reasonable. I do know you mentioned that theory about Hanma being the time leaper, but then again, it's just a theory, and it didn't come true - although I think it would've been nice if it did. I do agree with your other points on how Ken Wakui-san turned Mikey's mental illness into some sort of an identity of his, though. I think it's too edgy in my opinion, and it sounds like something most Gen Z kids would do by romanticizing mental illness and making it look like a trait or stuff like that (You get the idea).
The poor execution of this final act of Takemitchy & Mikey hits harder if you read Undead Unluck or ReZero, where the cast pulls out all the stops to make things go differently with each step shown.
Maybe in the LN, but the anime ReZero had little to no explanation of how Subaru learned to defeat Beltegeese othe than "I know your weakness!" All of the sudden, which is absolutely awful writing.
I don't really know about rezero (because I've only watched the anime very long ago), but you are 100% right on undead unluck. Andy and Fuuko and all the negators really gave it their 110% just to get another chance.
@@ShouVertica Bro, it was shown in the anime that Betelgeuse was just a spirit controlling a body. Subaru was possessed by him and knew that if he took out all of his 'fingers' Betelgeuse would have no choice but to do it again. At which point Subaru gets Satella to kick him out of his body so him and Julius could end him for good. Literally all in front of you. Fuckin Speed Watcher
@@kuronotheavenger100 My guy, none of this is explained prior and then there's the weird ritual book thing, which had no explanation. It's all just done as "I found out the secret!" Without any explanation as to how. It's terrible writing.
In fact it's so bad I'm surprised it isn't the go to meme, but I doubt people actually care about rezeros plot.
@@kuronotheavenger100 My guy, none of this is explained prior and them there's the weird ritual book thing. It's all just done as "I found out the secret!" Without any explanation as to how. It's terrible writing
never forget when mask called tokyo revengers an s tier manga during his tier list arc💀
tbf it was pretty good until the boten and tenjiku arc, but after that is where everything went downhill.should've ended once kisaki died tbh
Obviously it was peak back then
IT WAS BROOO. Leave me alone dawg😭
@@TheMaskedManlol, you gonna need to update your tier list
@@TheMaskedMan Tenjiku is the true ending
Tokyo Revengers must be one of the most unique manga out there
I mean, Wakui managed to drag and water down the story for what it felt like 100 chapters and still delivered an ending that feels rushed as fuck
True display of skill
Glad you made this video to articulate your thoughts on the series. Suspension of disbelief is something you really need to have for this series to enjoy it. It was still a fun journey but stayed longer than it needed to be.
I feel a better origin story for the Dark Impulses would be that the Impulses originated from Mikey from the 1st timeline where he had the accident and the impulses emerged from all his dreams/ambitions that he could never achieve since he was gonna die, and they seeped through all the mikeys in the all the different timelines.
The last chapter just felt like the author was GOING to go somewhere with it, but then was like “actually guys? I’m tired, I’m ending it here”
This final arc was a fever dream man. I think the downfall of the final arc really started with Drakens death and it was so controversial that it felt like the creator had no choice to do this retcon at the end. Like Shinichiro becoming a fucking god all of a sudden but still somehow gets packed up by Kazutora? Sanzu being a second time leaper was crazy considering most people though Kisaki was the timeleaper that takemitchi was having a ditto matchup against. Also Senju getting fucked so hard when she’s literally supposed to be a top player especially after that kuroko zone like thing where she has the glow pouring from her eyes. It’s sad how this series was rushed but I really believe that Tenjiku should have been the climax of the series. This happy ending isn’t bad but it’s just too complicated how they went through hoops and ladders just to say hey everyone’s a time leaper and now all those people you were sad and heartbroken about aren’t dead anymore.
Sanzu isnt a time leaper bro
@@delet3999 sanzu is shinichiros key my bad
Yeah, I do personally wish Ken Wakui-san just make the theory of Hanma being the time leaper come true or something. It's more fun and logical that way, after all, and would explain even better why Kisaki always wins against Takemichi in most of the previous timelines he's been in. Although, I do think it's just thanks to his intellect and planning skills that Kisaki was able to do that, but at the same time, part of me also thinks it would've been nice if it turns out Kisaki was, in fact, helped by a time leaper to achieve it this whole time, and that time leaper being Hanma. In fact, when I first saw the part with Takemichi and Kisaki's confrontation, where Kisaki ended up being hit by a truck, I thought when he said he had a feeling Takemichi's a time leaper, it could mean Kisaki just managed to guess it by judging Takemichi's suspicious behavior (Kind of like how Chifuyu had a feeling that Takemichi was one because of the latter telling Baji to not die during the Toman vs Valhalla fight as if Takemichi already knew what's gonna happen) or also because he happens to have Hanma, who's a time leaper himself (Had the theory been true).
I mean, isn't everyone surviving a good ending?
I found it funny how Shinichiro died so easily but Sanzu survived so much shit
I think the later part of the manga went well into showing the contrast between Takemitchy and Shinichero, which Shinichero fought to shelter his family compared to Takemitchy fighting for the sake of everyone never quitting till he found the solution he wanted he didn't kill or forsake anyone to get where he wanted.
Yh it's a well put contrast and the message that everyone deserves a second chance and redemption is good
been waiting to hear your thoughts on everything .. as a fan of this series I acknowledge the flaws and to be honest am disappointed with the approach of the ending but nonetheless I still enjoyed the journey.
I honestly despise this man. Cause he's the reason I even gave this series a chance. I should have never listened to him, I wished I could time leap and stop myself from watching his video on tr.
I feel the same way. I'm disappointed with how it's ending but the journey and characters makes up for the lack luster ending.
The ending works way better, if you imagine the latest chapter to be a last vision before he dies, making it even more tragic because of what could have been. So for me, Takemichi died but saved mikey from the dark impulses and had this last thought of traveling all the way back with mikey as he peacefully died
If you imagine it that way is incomplete since then Mikey gains powers and guess what? He wouldn't let takemichi die so we go back in a circle
Seems like a popular h3ntai plot...but nevermind that just my dirty mind
@@kripikkuda6184 To be fair it does lol
@@kripikkuda6184 what
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That's what I thought of... But Josuke ending is canon, idgaf.
This ending is really give me my own dark impulsive, ugh.
Honestly the more I think about this ending the more it makes me think about Undead Unluck. Like there doing a very similar thing currently in the manga and yet it so much better in comparison! Talk about a timely example how to and not to do this concept.
Literally erased all the character development if you just reset all the things you accomplished. It feels like all the bonds they made are just surface level if you can just redo it again.
@@kaelthunderhoof5619 tf are you on about? There literal bonds became stronger due to them meeting earlier lol
@@V---L he’s right the ending is just full of rushed happy endings and forced unreasonable friendships so dumb
@@top8505 your comment and his literally have nothing to do with one another...he never mentioned the ending being rushed or about unreasonable friendships, so he is right in what exactly? Because your comments are completely different
@@V---L he says all character development was gone. i agree our comments werent related that much but he is still right. Mny of the characters like chifuyu's character building and everyones motives were erased the second they were used as puppets to only reach an unrealistic dumb ending where everyone becomes friends for some dumbahh reason
Anyone else love the part where Takemichi said "Revengers... Assemle".
it felt like the ending was fan service likeee they revived those who died and like kisaki became a good guy? it was like a mess by the end
Bruh kisaki become a good guy 😭😭
The last chapter came out yesterday and it was the ending I hoped for. The final arc was rushed and messy and the final chapter doesn't change that. It'll be up to the anime to clean up the mess of a very good manga that stayed well past its time. It should've ended with the Tenjiku Arc. Despite that I have to say thank you Ken Wakui for this series.
I agree with your words! I initially was really hyped for the series and didn't mind the time travel aspect. The story could've and argued should've ended with Mikey dying or being evil but it didn't. So the author had to keep going and made paradoxes. The explanation of the time powers was when it was over for me.
Ken Wakui really wished the final arc away like Timmy at the end of a Fairly Oddparents episode 🤣
the premise : you can only leapt through time a definite amount of years so there's no another second chance gotta make this count
the ending : we fix everything by leap back further when everyone is alive because we got another second chance
I'm still a sucker for a happy ending.
Been waitin for a Tokyo’s Revengers vid😭
lmfao
Ooof lol
I knew this was going in a weird direction when Takemichi and Mikey began singing the lyrics to the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse theme song
Honestly I appreciate the risks the author took, and I'm a sucker for happy endings after all the fucked up seinen and shonen I've read, I appreciate it, I think it's a unique manga but I can see how it's not for everyone
Idk if I'm alone in this, but I feel like a Shinichiro side story, entailing his rise within the gang world would be a thrill to read! I feel like thats the only period of time Wakui has yet to seriously dive into. Plus, seeing the conflict between Wakasa and Benkei would be crazy!! While I'm not exactly a fan of the extremely rushed ending, I truly believe this manga was something special. And as controversial as Takemichi's character may be, he taught me the importance of standing up for your self worth. But overall, I really enjoyed Tokyo Revengers!
This last arc was a fever dream holy
I don’t like the “it was all a dream” endings. I don’t think anyone does. But I’m really hoping this is all a dream takemichi has as he’s dying. I seriously doubt it, but the last chapter is so different from the rest of the series in tone, that I just hope that’s the case. God damn man, what happened to this series.
I think Tokyo revengers is very good until the last 5 or 6 chapters where it completely face plants. I think the author wrote himself into a corner and didn’t know how to get out of it so he just ended up undoing everything, so everyone could get a happy ending.
I think the dark impulse is probably the worst way I've seen a problem in a story being resolved
man, I miss Kisaki. A real shame the author really did have no plans for this guy.
I really feel like the manga probably could have ended with takemichi saving hinata but mikey still being a gang leader
Glad I never wasted my time on this series. This is why I wait a few years to get into a new series instead of jumping on the hype train.
I already had my ending in my head. It's simply he acknowledges that he can't save Mikey instead he saves his memory like he is last seen Riding Mikey's motorcycle down Tokyo Road with his woman on his back and we see the images of Mikey his sister Emma and all the people he couldn't save in the sky as if they're watching him smiling and also does a bit of a summary where chifuyu becomes a Godfather to his kids and he names his kids Emma Mikey after those he couldn't saved my ending is he saves their memory basically he carries their Legend on.
Also, if Mikey timejumps as well and keeps his memories from the future/other life, then his dark impulse or whatever isn't gone because he's still the same person/had the same experiences? But everything's still okay even though he's the same person who just stabbed Takemichi a minute ago?
Sometimes, the ending to a manga doesn't reaaaaally matter because it really is all about the journey, but when it is so plot driven and redefines everything that has happened so far, it definitely can make or break a story. So for me Tokyo Revengers should just be forgotten now.
Thanks.
My read is the Dark Impulses are part of the curse on the time leaper; the hobo leaper's life is clearly shitty because taking the power the bad way cursed him too, Shinichiro's curse corrupted Mikey, who he cared for the most (and indirectly killed Izana and Emma too), and Kazutora, who ended up killing him. Shinichiro gifts the power selflessly to Takemichi, who gives it to Mikey creating a cycle of selflessness rather one of selfishness like the one started/continued by the hobo and Shinichiro, ending the curse since in Timeleaper Mikey's timeline he clearly doesn't have the DIs anymore
I stopped reading it for four months, now is the time for me to catch to you guys
wait one more week to get the final chapter
honestly best thing torev has going for it is artstyle/character design imo
The blackdrag9n and tenjiku arc were the best. I always tell people that cause its true
And the character writing too
Tokyo revengers WAS the best new gen ..... well until the Final arc
ahh remember when this manga was about saving Hina? haha I barely do because it was masked by 60+ painful chapters. I miss the old TR
Never Seen masked boi try and justify a manga more to himself, It's like I can see the sadness and Masked screaming why. 197 should have been the last chapter
I’m still waiting on your Billy Bat review
Love that one.
It feels like this show was supposed to end after Kisaki's death because of how much built up that final clash got. I kept thinking to myself "But why tho? This is so unnecessary." while reading the last arc of this
It's gotta be a bait, there's no way you end a manga like this 😭
The ending was seemingly referenced when Takemitchi says to Chufuyu that he's going to save Baji even if he know how. It looks like the only way to save everyone was always to stay with Mikey,
every time Takemitchi goes back to the future Mikey is just destroyed, sometimes killing everyone, or murder-suiciding himself and Takemitchi. The "Time Leap" power seem to be transferred two ways, one by murdering someone with " Time Leap" powers or for someone to transfer their powers willingly. In the ending Takemitchi, while dying, goes to transfer his powers to Mikey at the same Mikey is holding Takemitchi's hands, which is Takemitchi needs to go back to the future, but because Takemitchi is doing and because of their wish to go back into the past to fix everything and get to be together they both go back. I honestly both love this ending and somehow foresaw this ending while daydreaming what might happen next.
(Though, at the end it felt like Takemitchi was more in love with Mikey than he was in love Hina, which confused the duck out of me. Still happy though!)
Regarding your last comment, I agree. Takemichi seemed to have more feelings for Mikey in the second part and vise versa. I am not a big shipper, but the way these characters are written I don't doubt that ship is strong.
My heart legit dropped when I realized that was the ending I wanted to cry in a bad way
I still remember the comment I made on the 1st video you made about Tokyo Revengers, I commented on how the story fell off so hard FOR ME after the revelation of Kisaki's motives and I got lots of replies that defended the story💀and calling me dumb, that's aight tho atleast I get to sleep soundly at night knowing that I didn't defend this trainwreck of show.
Still remember people hyping this up as the best new gen 💀 truly the manga of all time
Lol
This become popular in Japan and southeast asia 😂
The problem was that he never gave the time travel powers any real rules or anything, allowing him to really pull anything he wants like being able to see a min into the future randomly when he was with Senju or the fact that mikey and takemitchy both time travelled. I had a feeling this is where it was heading when they killed Draken off so easily, I knew they wouldn't kill a character like that in the most punk way and leave it like that, with a show about time travel no way he stays dead like that and I was right. Is what it is with story, whatever happens next week it was a good ride regardless.
I liked the ending, but the double time leap was done very fast. I'd have preferred like 3 or 4 chapters with the two of them trying to save everyone and that being explained. But not a long thing, just like a narration explaining how they did it and how the bad guys, like Kisaki and Hanma specially, joined Toman and didn't do evil things.
to be honest i preferred the whole “kisaki driving mikey to madness” thing over the dark impulses. it made more sense. i also preferred it ending at the tenjuku arc, or not having kisaki killed then and have him continue on as the main antagonist. i also think they didn’t need shinichirou as a time-leaper, i feel like he worked good enough as a character before-hand, as an inspiration for mikey and a key to the valhalla(idk how to spell it) arc and kazutora’s motives there. the origin of the time-leap could have also been better explained, and not just “passed down from person to person” with no known origin.
it was also painful to see the dead characters come back- don’t get me wrong, i loved the characters and was sad when they died, but it added more depth to the story and the characters. the ending with saving them all makes the rest of the story feel pointless. and all the character development is gone too- like with koko and inupii. with this new “perfect ending” their development never get concluded(i feel), because they never split paths.
all in all, i loved the series, but not the ending.
This Manga is basically the Spiderman 3 of anime
And the manga ending perfectly fitted tachemichy's mindset... That was what the manga all about.. Even he said it a thousand times in manga that he will keep time leaping again and again unless he will find each n everyone happy
. That's what he did guys.. What's wrong thenn????!?
So I have nothing to back any of this up but let me take a crack at breaking down what I think happened:
The time leap power can be passed 2 ways: by actively giving it to a new user (Shinichiro to Takemitchy)
Or by killing and taking it from the previous user(Hobo to Shinichiro)
It’s also important to remember that a time leap can be caused not only by the trigger of a handshake but through the one who holds the power of the leaper to die.
It’s important to keep both these in mind because when Mikey ran Takemitchy through with the sword he was the trigger for the timeleaps for this arc. Thus as Takemitchy was passing on, their hands came together and Mikey I think in that moment both took on the power of the time leaper, both his and Takemitchy’s desires of wanting a better future resulting in Mikey being sent to the past, while simultaneously triggering Takemitchy’s own time leap ability and sending him into the past as well. Thus either with them both being timeleapers, or perhaps because they are both happy with the outcome they have finally reached they are no longer able to time leap and thus the curse is essentially broken.
This is just me spit balling based off the rules established as we know them
When Takamichi revealed his final Revenger form, I felt that
im my opinion, you missed something. when he said he should have asked the hobo all along, its not that simple...the hobo says its a curse, the dark impulses are a product of time leaping, and the hobo himself was a product of the destruction the dark impulse caused the people he tried to save with him ability, which made him seclude himself as a hobo unwilling to give his powers to shin..which is still speculation that makes alot of sense, but yea post kisaki's death the manga dint go well, although the end was sorto heartwarming
So the true Tokyo Revengers were the friends we made along the way.
He should've stopped it at the first wedding IMO, a nice bittersweet ending.
The ending was so disappointing with them travelling back in time again where everyone’s alive, and everyone got a happy ending and everyone became friends - it’s soo unrealistic. It felt like all the pain all the suffering and all the stories told throughout the manga was meaningless. The manga definitely should’ve ended when Mikey took everyone’s pain. This ending was so forced and unnatural, overall a huge disappointment.
Yeah like they should have just left all of the gang wars they had the same but obviously takemichi was there to stop mikey from getting angry id see how freaking izana got redeemed
MASKED I've been waiting for this video since the chap dropped 😭
The major problem for me is that the new timeline isn't even explicated, some ennemies became allies and we don't even know why, plus that doesn't really make sense for their character. Even more with the fact that the two time leaped before the whole Shinichiro's death that came straight out of fanfic and could have been done ages ago with some reflection. I'm pretty sure Takemichi could have time leaped with Kazutora because of his guilt, he could have been a good trigger. I liked the idea of karma introduced with Shinichiro's flachback and that you have to pay for what you've done but again the time leaping thing ruined it for me. Shinichiro shouldn't have been saved from all people (you can see I'm not a big fan of the guy, too compared to our hero, too much idolized that I became sick of him, people simped for him even when they didn't know him at all just bit and pieces here and there and the constant reminder that he was a ripoff Takemichi).
The problem I have is that the author has fundamentally messed with how he’s established the power worked in order to serve the story’s happy ending. Instead of being about how you can’t change the past and how you just have to let some things go in order to better the life you currently have, by showing that no matter what, Mikey can’t be saved, author says screw that and fumbles the bag so hard. Granted I like a happy ending but this type of story should’ve ended with a bittersweet somber ending.
I just loved that we got to see every character getting saved and being present in the ranks of toman by the end
Yeah it was the biggest avengers assemble bullcrap ever hahaha.
@@thenegotiator1630 i live in your wall
Love that you kept it weighted in and respectful all along
I just pretend it ended at the bonten timeskip lmfao cause I liked that ending
same
I hope you know that the ending was never planned from the start, wakui wanted to end it at tenjiku but kodansha declined
To be completely honest I've been enjoying this arc for the most part. I do find this ending really rushed though. I'm personally hoping when the anime adapts this arc we can maybe get an anime original ending where Takemichi and Mikey fight where they hung out after the Christmas battle. I can just see Takemichi punching Mikey and then Mikey just dicides to stay on the ground and say he won.
I just really disliked how Draken's revival was brushed off in the end, he was such an important character and his death was already a focal part of the story, when everyone was brought back he wasn't even acknowledged.
This comparision may be painful for you since you've known the series since it was underground but here I go.
As someone who isn't caught up to the series the general reaction I keep hearing sounds like Seven Deadly Sins where the highs are high but the lows are so low you question if the highs were just a fluke.
Personally I have a mix feeling about the ending. Like the ending was kind of cliche for time travel story, like the whole the journey and character development wasted after Takemitchy and Mikey both travel back in time. Also I just kind of annoyed how Kisaki was pretty much forgiven now part of the gang when the new timeline reset. Also wish they explain how Kisaki knew Shinichrio was a timeleaper, not to mention wish they explore more of Sanzu side of the story. So I feel like the ending was bit rushed and kind of lazy writing since they never really explain where the time travel power even come from.
BRO THE ENDING I CAN'T ANYMORE, FUCKING KISAKI JUST DOESN'T CARE HE JUST ACCEPTS THAT HINA MARRIES TAKEMITCHY. 200 CHAPTERS BUILT UP DEAD FOR 0 REASON
They should have ended on the boten arc but I still like the series wish ken wakui made the time travel come full circlish or more fluid like isaymam and how he used time travel
My take on both of them time leaping is that in takemichi’s last moments, he tried to give Mikey his powers but the transfer was incomplete and so Mikey only received half of them in that moment. Idk if Mikey and takemichi were both each others triggers in that moment but it’s possible
Bro since you done with this, you gotta read leviathan it’s a finished manhwa with 215 chapters
Just went over chapter 1 its looks stunning af🔥
@@Comment66 I know right it’s definitely the most underrated Manhwa of all time
man I haven't read leviathan in a while, guess I have to catch up since it ended
@@starkillahx yes please you will not regret it
Is it just me who realized that every major gang that Toman fought was merged EXCEPT Moebius? I don’t see Osanai anywhere here.
When Takemichi decided to basically give a middle finger to everyone to chase after Mikey in Bonten for the stupidest reason possible (giving wedding invitation to wanted crime boss for cop's sisters' wedding) it was the first time my Tokyo Revengers blind love goggles were taken off. (Warning: Spoilers belov for THE FINAL chapter that hasn't been released yet, but I saw full spoilers on it)
Then when time leap happened and all of the work so far (everyone's happiness) got undone by it was when it started stinking to me even more, but at the same time I still didn't abandon the ship fully because I still had faith in this series so I kept thinking that author surely will know what the hell is he doing and why he is doing it... until Draken died for no reason. Like literally no reason at all since the only reason why he died was to make sure Senju lives in this timeline, and Senju didn't DO SHIT THIS ARC! Despite EVEN THAT the other side of my mind kept thinking that there must be reason for this, right? Everything will start making sense by the end, right? I'm just jumping at the gun too early, RIGHT? Nope. Instead I get slapped with edgy impulses bullshit that invalidates not only Mikey's character, but the character of everyone around him since everything bad seems to be thanks to this stupid ass curse caused by some random hobo. How does that get solved? By Takemichi getting stabbed, hugging Mikey and telling him he is his friend which makes Mikey cry and they both assleap even further in the past and then magically fix every problem that exists no matter how little sense it bloody makes. Like Inupi no longer having scar. Did removal of "shitty writing impulses" remove fire accident or what? Why are him and Koko still in BD when none of them no longer has the motive to create such gang with Taiju? Speaking of Taiju, what happened to his abusive impulses there? Did they talk-no-jutsu those out of him, or did they simply vanish with the removel of curse as well? WHY THE HELL DOES TENJIKU EXIST ESPECIALLY IN THIS TIMELINE? The only reason why they existed back then was due to Kisaki manipulating hobo Izana into making that gang. So what the hell are they doing in this timeline when Kisaki is no longer Kisaki? It's dumb as hell. Then you got upcoming chapter (SPOILER) that has good South. Like what!?!?!? This whole's man character was that he loves violence because he does! How the hell is he "pals" with Mickey Mouse crew? How is he not taking over Tokyo again? How is he not-South? Did Mickey and Goofy fly to Brasil to prevent South's tragic life, or did it magically got solved because no hobo curse so that means everything is fine now? Let us not even go into Hanma whose whole character was that he loved chaos and that is the reason why he bonded with Kisaki. Now Hanma apparently is ok with being with Disney's team and is still for some reason following Kisaki even though this is the most boring version of Kisaki (according to Hanma's definition of boring) that Hanma would never care to follow in other timelines.
Honestly, one of the worst ending if not the worst I personally saw. At least other garbage endings didn't go this far to invalidate their whole manga and characters to this degree, or in Prison School's case, that was author trying to screw over publishers who were screwing him so that's why the ending is the way it is. This on another hand? Wakui is claiming that he had ending planned all along since Vahalla? I just... I apologize to everyone who I may have recommended this manga at one point. That is all I have left to say.
We rarely get a good endings in manga/anime. I think this manga was very refreshing in many ways. Even the ending. The characters deserved to be happy. People hate the ending because it felt like the story played with our emotions and it was all for nothing in the end. I do agree that it was very rushed, though.
So I am so confused ...just finished the anime. It started out him trying to save his old girlfriend but did he end up just picking the gang over her? I am confused because I thought the ending would have something to do with her
I am also thinking the same thing.
To put it simply he had to become the boss of the gang to save her
It felt so half assed and rushed but apparently Ken planned this ending since Volume 5 lmao
Tokyo Midvengers finally being recognized for what it is!
Hyped by edgy teens