I like how this kind of shows a reenactment about how a P51 or any American fighter would handle a dogfight against a Japanese aircraft with boom and zoom tactics, very well made.
@@migmadmarine What turning does is evades the enemy bullets. Unless you like holes in your engine, fuel tanks, and pilot's body, turning is essential. The other thing that turning does is allows you to poke holes on your enemy. This is why the call them "dogfights". A fighter with poor turning and climb rate (they go together) is a very deficient fighter. Having said that, the deficiency can be compensated by huge numbers, which is where the Mustang fits in.
The Mustang had weaknesses compared to the Japanese land-based fighters but had the speed and the self-leading gun sight plus North American protected the pilot and fuel tanks with steal reinforcement and the self-sealing gas tanks. Our planes were heavier than the Japanese but I bet the Ki-84 had the same weakness as the A6M Zeros in that their control surfaces weren't hydraulic so they froze at high speeds. Also if you were above them and attacked they would inevitably dive and that is when we had them. Their pilots were not trained sufficiently at the point in the war when they started fighting our superior planes. On the other hand, our pilots after so many hours would rotate back to America and help train the new pilots and the Axis powers had no rotation system. That is why their Aces had so many more kills than ours. Lastly, the P-51's were manufactured in a way that minimized errors. The Luftwaffe and the Japanese fighters were hand-built.
una pregunta ¿como haces para que suene realista cuando pones F3? le pones algo en JSGME o alguna expancion porque descargue el bat red core y le puse blue edge y no lograba hacer
If I ever found myself at the dangerous end of a shooting range, with yourself armed and ready at the other; the safest place to stand would be in front of the target.
@@tomekrol thats really odd to me then that it was able to out perform a Ki-84 to that extent or maybe the Ki-84 pilot doesnt know the plane very well...
@@saienide9301 P 51 had a better performance, maybe except its maneuverability. That was not easy to get win against Frank but possible, especially that USAF had a huge advantage at the end of war.
The pilots that flew the ki84s towards the end of the war were not very skilled, the ki84 has its advantages over the p51 such as climb rate, maneuverability, and firepower, so in reality it just lacked skilled pilots to operate with it, which is why p51 pilots were able to shoot them down easily as ww2 was ending for Japan
Piloto generoso,máquina contra máquina,mas dentro dois seres humanos,sei que é um simulador de guerra,também jogo il2,mas acredito que na época aconteceu isso.
Este simulador tem um nível de simulação de IA (inteligência artificial) muito bom, é muito mais difícil em um duelo com um jogador real. Atenciosamente!
Yes, the Japanese did use self sealing fuel tanks and armour on the Hayate (Ki84) and the Hein(Ki61), the myth that they didn't stems from the early Zero (A6m2) and Ki27 'Nate' and early bombers which didn't. Even the Hayabusa (Ki43) had an aerly form of sealing tanks and from the A6M3 onwards so did the Zero. Pretty much all fighters 1943 onwards had them and most of the later bombers. To be clear they were not equipped as well as the Allied forms of tanks and armour.
Once hit, the Japanese pilot could not bail out, because Japanese pilots did not have a parachute. I felt anxious, hoped he would be able to crashland his plane before it would explode. Then he luckily could land, but it did not become clear if he got out of the wreck alive. I do hope he made it!!!
Japanese Army pilots wore parachutes as a matter of policy and Japanese Navy pilots did not. It was a matter of personal choice, too and pilots who flew unarmoured aircraft like the Zero, Ki-43 and various bombers knew full well that their aircraft were dreadfully vulnerable to enemy fire yet they continued to fly them in combat. It wasn't until the loss rate of aircrew and aircraft hit home that newer types such as the Hayate had armour, self sealing fuel tanks, bulletproof windscreens and built-in dinghies like American aircraft, by which time the war was lost for Japan.
@@michaelbevan3285 That's an interesting new fact for me. I always wondered why Japanese pilots did not have parachutes, and now I read army pilots had one and navy pilots did not. Do you know why? The Japanese lost unnecessarily many pilots because of that and because at the beginning their planes were not armoured.
I watch a lot of these combat flight sim videos from a lot of different channels. I see so many comments from people pointing out how it's bullshit that aircraft x could win a fight against aircraft z because aircraft z was a better aircraft. I find this amusing, and it usually means the person making the comment has no experience flying real aircraft. And they likely get their opinion from playing a video game, and reading a little bit about the specifications of the individual aircraft. I'm a pilot who has owned and flown high performance aircraft. I've also raced motorcycles most of my life, which has been seven decades long. I can say with some confidence, and experience, that in the huge majority of cases, the capabilities of a particular machine are not what determines the outcome of a dogfight, or a race. There are two main factors that make that determination. The capabilities of the people in control of the machines, and luck. If the pilot of your favored aircraft gets his ass shot out of the sky by The pilot of an aircraft you believe to be inferior, don't be so eager to call bullshit. You have no idea of the circumstances surrounding the engagement.
tests conducted after the war by us air force conclued that the Ki84 outclassed (when his poorly done engine is running !!!) the P51 and the F4U in all the flight envelope at low altitude also in speed (at medium to high altitude US fighters were better); it was also strictly forbiden to engage dogfight with a Ki84 at low altitude for navy pilots ............
@@tomhighway1952 just talking about reals tests conducted by US air force , IL 2 is just a game , fews americans pilots had paid the price over Birmanie and Phillipines when they had wanted to dogfight this plane ...... that's the history, not a sim
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I like how this kind of shows a reenactment about how a P51 or any American fighter would handle a dogfight against a Japanese aircraft with boom and zoom tactics, very well made.
This is bullshit. The Hayate can outfly the P-51 in every respect.
i agree. all turning does is bleed off airspeed/energy
@@migmadmarine What turning does is evades the enemy bullets. Unless you like holes in your engine, fuel tanks, and pilot's body, turning is essential. The other thing that turning does is allows you to poke holes on your enemy. This is why the call them "dogfights". A fighter with poor turning and climb rate (they go together) is a very deficient fighter. Having said that, the deficiency can be compensated by huge numbers, which is where the Mustang fits in.
Super fight. Thanks!
После ИЛ2 БЗС старичек как пластилиновый мультик.
Merciful of the P51 however I seen at least twice the Japanese plane had em. I would love to see that in tacview. Interesting video
Вы, Молодец! Очень благородно!
The Mustang had weaknesses compared to the Japanese land-based fighters but had the speed and the self-leading gun sight plus North American protected the pilot and fuel tanks with steal reinforcement and the self-sealing gas tanks. Our planes were heavier than the Japanese but I bet the Ki-84 had the same weakness as the A6M Zeros in that their control surfaces weren't hydraulic so they froze at high speeds. Also if you were above them and attacked they would inevitably dive and that is when we had them. Their pilots were not trained sufficiently at the point in the war when they started fighting our superior planes. On the other hand, our pilots after so many hours would rotate back to America and help train the new pilots and the Axis powers had no rotation system. That is why their Aces had so many more kills than ours. Lastly, the P-51's were manufactured in a way that minimized errors. The Luftwaffe and the Japanese fighters were hand-built.
una pregunta ¿como haces para que suene realista cuando pones F3? le pones algo en JSGME o alguna expancion porque descargue el bat red core y le puse blue edge y no lograba hacer
Nett, dass er den Japaner noch bis zur Bruchlandung eskortiert hat. Das hat Charakter! Top!
If I ever found myself at the dangerous end of a shooting range, with yourself armed and ready at the other; the safest place to stand would be in front of the target.
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what model of P-51 is that because usually I would say there is no reason that a Ki-84 would do anything but stomp a mustang into the ground
It's type D 20 NA.
@@tomekrol thats really odd to me then that it was able to out perform a Ki-84 to that extent or maybe the Ki-84 pilot doesnt know the plane very well...
@@saienide9301 P 51 had a better performance, maybe except its maneuverability. That was not easy to get win against Frank but possible, especially that USAF had a huge advantage at the end of war.
@@tomekrol i guess that makes sense... I didnt figure the performance gap would be THAT large.
The pilots that flew the ki84s towards the end of the war were not very skilled, the ki84 has its advantages over the p51 such as climb rate, maneuverability, and firepower, so in reality it just lacked skilled pilots to operate with it, which is why p51 pilots were able to shoot them down easily as ww2 was ending for Japan
What happened at 5:25? AI of the KI-84 glitch out?
It had to slow down because of dangerous speed.
Can you do a tutorial on installing bat 4.1.3
Here You are a guide , www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,63246.0.html
@@tomekrol thanks
Piloto generoso,máquina contra máquina,mas dentro dois seres humanos,sei que é um simulador de guerra,também jogo il2,mas acredito que na época aconteceu isso.
Este simulador tem um nível de simulação de IA (inteligência artificial) muito bom, é muito mais difícil em um duelo com um jogador real.
Atenciosamente!
Houveram incidentes destes, sim
Big Beautiful fought in the European Theater. Look at the "kills" in the fuselage under the canopy. Those are swatikas.
Yep, this skin does not fit to Pacyfic War.
the frank would have shredded it's wing after burning for about 10 seconds.
Well done which plane were you flying?
20 NA
@@tomekrol Yeah meanwhile i figured it out. A little bit of Chivarly in the end!
@@LeopardIL2 Yep,considering That he Landed at minefield, could be fan:)
I wonder if the Japanese ever equipped their planes with self sealing gas tanks. I would have liked to see Ki-84 against a Bearcat.
Yes, the Japanese did use self sealing fuel tanks and armour on the Hayate (Ki84) and the Hein(Ki61), the myth that they didn't stems from the early Zero (A6m2) and Ki27 'Nate' and early bombers which didn't. Even the Hayabusa (Ki43) had an aerly form of sealing tanks and from the A6M3 onwards so did the Zero. Pretty much all fighters 1943 onwards had them and most of the later bombers.
To be clear they were not equipped as well as the Allied forms of tanks and armour.
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Why is an aircraft stationed in the ETO engaging a Japanese plane?
Because It is not a historical movie .
Lotsa P51s were all over the PTO by 43.
@@jeffmoore9487 not ones with ETO markings.
@@ronlynquist9183 Oh, I didn't see that, these games aren't real. You can mix and match just about anything in make believe.
let me guess. you count rivets for fun😆
кто бы сомневался ... .
Hit and run
Run,climb,dive,hit and repeat.
Once hit, the Japanese pilot could not bail out, because Japanese pilots did not have a parachute.
I felt anxious, hoped he would be able to crashland his plane before it would explode. Then he luckily could land, but it did not become clear if he got out of the wreck alive. I do hope he made it!!!
Japanese Army pilots wore parachutes as a matter of policy and Japanese Navy pilots did not. It was a matter of personal choice, too and pilots who flew unarmoured aircraft like the Zero, Ki-43 and various bombers knew full well that their aircraft were dreadfully vulnerable to enemy fire yet they continued to fly them in combat. It wasn't until the loss rate of aircrew and aircraft hit home that newer types such as the Hayate had armour, self sealing fuel tanks, bulletproof windscreens and built-in dinghies like American aircraft, by which time the war was lost for Japan.
@@michaelbevan3285 That's an interesting new fact for me. I always wondered why Japanese pilots did not have parachutes, and now I read army pilots had one and navy pilots did not. Do you know why?
The Japanese lost unnecessarily many pilots because of that and because at the beginning their planes were not armoured.
I watch a lot of these combat flight sim videos from a lot of different channels. I see so many comments from people pointing out how it's bullshit that aircraft x could win a fight against aircraft z because aircraft z was a better aircraft. I find this amusing, and it usually means the person making the comment has no experience flying real aircraft. And they likely get their opinion from playing a video game, and reading a little bit about the specifications of the individual aircraft.
I'm a pilot who has owned and flown high performance aircraft. I've also raced motorcycles most of my life, which has been seven decades long. I can say with some confidence, and experience, that in the huge majority of cases, the capabilities of a particular machine are not what determines the outcome of a dogfight, or a race. There are two main factors that make that determination. The capabilities of the people in control of the machines, and luck.
If the pilot of your favored aircraft gets his ass shot out of the sky by The pilot of an aircraft you believe to be inferior, don't be so eager to call bullshit. You have no idea of the circumstances surrounding the engagement.
A very long poem, didn't You ever think to be a writer?
@@tomekrol I hear that a lot. ;^)
tests conducted after the war by us air force conclued that the Ki84 outclassed (when his poorly done engine is running !!!) the P51 and the F4U in all the flight envelope at low altitude also in speed (at medium to high altitude US fighters were better); it was also strictly forbiden to engage dogfight with a Ki84 at low altitude for navy pilots ............
@@cb3609 And yet I shoot KI-84's down at low altitude with an F4U all the time in IL-2 1946.
@@tomhighway1952 just talking about reals tests conducted by US air force , IL 2 is just a game , fews americans pilots had paid the price over Birmanie and Phillipines when they had wanted to dogfight this plane ...... that's the history, not a sim
Shit. Call me sick but I really wanted to see that 51 get shredded. The nakajima pilot was good ☹️
What do You mean " Good" ?
Sehr einseitig zu der Zeit waren erfahrene Japanische Piloten fast nicht mehr vorhanden .
Also für die Mustang kein Problem
海軍航空隊は度重なる大航空戦、精鋭を集めた空母航空隊を酷使、航空機の性能不足、機数不足による航空戦自体の劣勢化、などによって一部の防空部隊や343航空隊など以外に殆んど精鋭は残ってませんでしたが陸軍航空隊にはかなりの数の精鋭パイロットが残ってましたよ。
A dead engine doesn't roar.
The roar comes from Mustang.
I want to fight in the air with you again.
Great, come to Aces over Pacyfic it's working all time. 213.175.54.204:2130 ,Regards!
It was :(
you need work on your trim a bit. you shots are not stable cuz your plane is not trimmed out properly
Right, it is very important to have good trimmed plane.
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