Someones Hiding The Truth behind this 590 Mile Nissan 240sx
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- This Crazy Low Mileage 1995 Nissan 240sx S14 was pulled and removed from Bring a Trailer Jalopnik wrote about and now it has sold at the Mecum Kissimmee Car Auction 2024
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Your brother is a natural on camera. I think you should include him on the channel more often. Well done Adam!
Whoever's doing the editing/Memes is on point too. Otherwise sometime YTubers channels can be boring to watch.
He’s starting his own channel
his dad pretty smart too
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With the re-rivet issue on the VIN plate, I would run from it!
You're right! There are so many other great condition 240's to choose from!!
Smh
Airbags have gone off and dash pad was replaced
As a used car it isn't so bad. For what the sellers are representing, it's a mess.
I am a Florida Used Car Dealer and at one time we did a lot of "low mileage" rebuildable in Florida.@@PTmayotte
Front end collision with airbag deployment. Likely swapped vin tags with another. They need to go through that and find hidden places with original vin
Plot twist: Craig spray painted the dash.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Scam seller trying to get more money
... and the wheels.
Sooo good
...nice...
Carfax is not the awesome answer some people think it is. If whoever fixed it doesn’t report it there’s no record. I bought a used car from a dealer with a “clean” carfax only to find out a year later that it had been in a pretty bad accident and a lot of the front end had been repaired/replaced.
Exactly what I was thinking. Shades of auction Red Jeep v deer
I know my car has 3 accidents n 1 transmission replaced...car fax is clean...cause i never had a police report n the transmission shop ripped me off..never replaced transmission....nissan sentra n was in shop 400 miles out of warranty..first i was told $1200 to fix...next day when i called i was told $3400. Rebuit trans n flywheel n converter i think...but now car has 120,000 n trans went again...my mechanic said the trans was never replaced..the shop ripped me off..it was a shop out in nj..i wish i had all the info so i could call them out.
But karma goes full circle ...
How did you find out a year later and not the first time you looked at the front end?
So you are saying the transmission shop fixed your transmission instead of replacing the case. If ti worked fine for 70,000 miles what is the problem?@@harryschneider1760
I worked at a body shop that did cash/credit deals. We were booked months out.The amount of cars driving around with clean Carfax ,with a ton of body work is astonishing
Owner bid on his own car… that is sus rt there
Like half of ebay auctions
Shill bidding at it's finest.
Love hearing Adam talk so passionately about his expertise on Nissans!
I’m not a 240 enthusiast but I can tell you what happened to that car the car was being stored as a collectors item for many years until one day the owner decided to take it for a drive. This was a 1997 in the car, sustained some minor stone and damage causing the front bumper radiator support hood headlights bumper supportand four fenders to be replaced. The car received a restoration but the owner was not an enthusiast that knew every little detail. Neither was he the one that did the work I do know who did the work but that’s for a different video but I can say this car was in a body shop in 1997.
@@russell11fitzgeraldso was the dash and driver airbag replaced as well in 1997? Since you know the history of this car?
I’m sorry my reply was a little difficult to understand the car was in a minor accident when it was new that it was restored, both front fenders the hood, the front bumper. The front radiator support were replaced. The airbag and the dashboard were restored. The airbag has been deployed and he’s correct in the video. It’s basically glued back together with everything behind it having been replaced so if it was an accident today it would still function. The front wheels sustained some damage in the accident so all four wheels were restored so they would match all of this. Can be verified my uncles remembers this car very well
Adam is super impressive. Dad’s single comment contribution was an intelligent thought. I would bet the car was damaged in some way and then sat for a very long time and then apparently repaired well. Great investigation and interesting discussion on your channel. Definite Like.
I think Dad nailed it
i heard the same rumor that it was damaged in shipping but that part of the upper radiator support thats bent where it should bolt to the lower support makes me suspicious
The rivets on the dash vin really throw a question mark in the whole thing!
@@Joeshomegaragemost likely the wrong rivets on the dash vin are due to a dash replacement. When the passenger airbag pops on a 95-98 S14 it destroys the entire dash since the cover is not a separate part but one piece with the dash pad. Very similar to modern cars such as Bmw's for example.
@@inspectadrift8478 good information 👍
Mecum auction lot K199. Note on the descriptions says cars was damaged during shipping. First owner had the car repaired and kept the car in its current condition. A box of parts is shown in the auction listing. Doesn’t explain everything questionable about the car though. Carfax report states a Salvage title was issued in 1995 in error and then rescinded.
I'm surprised the uploader didn't pin your comment...
So they basically reconditioned it in many of the same ways Craig would have on any of his cars; but were representing it as factory original? And with that little white lie.. possible ODO rollback?
I’d say potentially rebirthed with the bin tag having the wrong rivets
Could have just had a spare odometer around. It's been crashed no one would take off that bottom lip it looked so cool with it
Lol i was thinking Craig did the rattle can rebuilds on this nissan too
Or it was wrecked with low millage and kept in a garage for many years not repaired.
@@JUST_ONE_ID10T99% sure it’s a vin swapped car just based off the fact that it’s missing certain things
I think, wrecked when new and has been in a garage due no insurance or afraid of getting in trouble for the wreck. Now these are collectable so they put it back together to sell.
That car has been through someone like Craig who "refinished" it underneath (and the wheels) with spray cans.😆
I was a Nissan sales man in the 90 s .If the first digit of the vin number is a J the car was built in Japan. sometimes the car arrives in the US and there is minor damage, The port repairs the damage on the car If the damage is over $ 1000. the did not have to report it. So the hood with an R and some other, as the radiator parts may have been Nissan repairs, The trunk mat is not original , should of been gray and thinner Great video
I know you can't do it at an auction but one sure fire way to see if it's actually 590 miles? Pull a spark plug and put a scope down a cylinder. If it truly only has 590 miles you'd still be able to plainly see the hatch marks on the cylinder walls. You can see the remnants at 50,000 miles so it'd be no prob seeing them at 590.
Another way is put the scope down the oil filler and look at the cam, same thing, cam should be pristine along with all the components. It should look like it came off the factory floor.
I just rebuilt a 302 with over 100k on it and the cylinders had perfect cross hatching.
@@Everything817 this isn't a 302 though. The redline on a 302 is what, 3500 rpm? The redline on this is what 6500?
You just proved the adage that no matter what you say online, there WILL be someone who will find someway to dispute it.
@@muskokamike127 Redline on a 302 is 3500? 😂 Sounds like you know it all. Any engine builder that's worth a shit will tell you crosshatching doesn't mean anything as far as mileage. Keep saying stupid shit though.
@@Everything817 1) go back and re-read my sentence....it is a question, not a statement. Depending on the year and TYPE of 302 the redline will change. In 1975 it was 4800. So I was off by 1300, sue me.
2) and yet there are plenty of forum posts of guys reporting the crosshatching is almost gone at 50K miles.
So mr "know it all" what would YOU say is a good method to determine the miles on the engine?
@@muskokamike127peak hp and redline are not the same. You tried to prove him wrong by looking up a smog era engine. Factory rev limiter on a 302 was 6,250. I love hearing the import experts talk. What youve read on forums and groups isnt real world experience. So many younger dudes can rattle off all the engine and chassis codes on stuff but dont have the tools or ability to change a head gasket.
Adam killed this inspection thanks Craig!
Just subscribed to Adam's channel off the back of this video. Some great detective work, asking the right questions in a nice manner while also complimenting the car. It's a great buyers guide of what people should look out for. Very informative. Thanks for pulling the video together.
Someone had a front end wreck and just didn't have insurance or didn't want an insurance claim therefore keeping the title clean
My old boss at the car dealer bought a 2000 mile Honda Fit that we later learned sustained a huge hit in the front. Whoever fixed it didn't do such a great job. One of the motor mount bolts was left out because it didn't line up. We sent it to or ace body shop guy that finished straightening it. It looked really good, except it was hit so hard, it affected the transmission. We sent the newly fixed and perfect looking Fit to the local Honda dealer to see if the tranny could be fix under warranty. They noticed the hood didn't have the factory stickers on the underside and rejected the warranty claim.
It's these little details that raise the alarm bells. A full concourse condition car doesn't have parts sprayed in black, especially bronze nuts etc that should not be black. This car is tarted up to look 'new' but there are warning signs all over the place.
'They noticed the hood didn't have the factory stickers on the underside and rejected the warranty claim.'
Without some type of paperwork, the re tagged vin numbers is SUPER sketchy.
The vin proves the car has been repaired., I suspect the dash is from a donor car. That is why the number has been tampered with.
Most likely the dash was replaced due to the passenger airbag destroying to original one and the vin was transferred over to the replacement dash with non oem rivets. If they wanted to do it so nobody would notice they should have sourced some original style rivets or reused the tops of the old ones when swapping over the vin plate. Doing that would have way less people questioning it and it would be bringing top dollar much easier. It is the little things like that which show how they tried but were not professionals. It is an art form to make a car look like it was never crashed. I would have grinded off the fat part of the rivets from underneath. Then transferred the vin to the new dash with the tops of the rivets still in the plate undisturbed and glued it to the new dash so it would look factory from the top. That way it would look as though it was never removed and nobody would know the dash was ever replaced.
He ripped that "590 miles" 240SX apart 😮
😂😂😂😂😂
I'm impressed by your brothers knowledge kudos to him
Carfax "Salvage title issued for this vehicle in error ".....Ya BS somebody knew somebody
With all of the issues that you guys found the only thing I can say is with that because the vin tag has been messed with.........RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN. There is absolutely NO reason that the VIN tag should have been touched no matter what!!!!!
When the passenger airbag pops on a 95-98 240sx it destroys the dash pad in the process. Hence why it was necessary to remove the plate and rivet it onto the replacement dashboard. They were not pros, if I were replacing the dash I would have reused the original rivets by grinding the fat part off from underneath, leaving the tops untouched and then glued the plate with the original rivets onto the new dash so no tampering would be visible from the top. Also explains why it has a deformed higher mileage driver airbag in the steering wheel instead of the mint 590 mile garage kept non deformed driver airbag. Very hard to find a non deformed 95-98 240sx driver airbag. I had a 1998 240sx about 15 years ago that had relatively low miles and the driver airbag was also deformed. I'm kinda surprised nobody reproduces 240sx driver airbag covers to remedy this part that they all suffer from.
A very important thing for buyers to note about the carfax. It took many years before automation caught up with vin histories. Anyone buying an older than mid '00s vehicle should not handle carfax like it is the end all and be all. Cars were not super expensive back then, so many minor accidents were handled out of pocket, so no insurance claim. No claim, no carfax entry.
Dash was ruined when the passenger bag deployed. Someone swapped it and painted it, swapped the vin.
It may be 590 miles, but it’s 590 shady miles.
I may be 590 miles on that odo. But there is far more on the actual car. It takes ten mins to swap one out. That’s clearly what happened here.
My suspicion is that the car was totalled early on in its life. Then someone repaired it but when it got repaired buying some aftermarket parts(pulleys) were cheaper than OEM and as per the mileage I believe it’s possible that the chassis was crashed at that.
One of my favorite RUclips celebrities said it best “I’m not saying that all the auction cars are junk, but all the junky cars are at the auction”
Always need to be careful at these online auctions and in person auctions. There is a lot of fraud.
SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHO OWNS THIS CAR???
GET AN INTERVIEW W/ them AND ASK THE QUESTIONS WE ALL WANT TO HEAR / HISTORY OF THE CAR
Start with the current seller!
You guys missed the Florida Assigned "Rebuilt Title". Look in the dog leg. This car has so many red "flags" it is appropriate that it is painted red.
I’m a Fiero enthusiast, and this reminds me of a low mileage Fiero story. This very nice, almost no mile car looked good, but there were some obvious things that didn’t add up. Turns out the car was donated to a high school auto shop with no VIN and the understanding that the car be destroyed when it was no longer useful. Decades later they kinda forgot where it came from and sold it for cheap because of the missing VIN. Anyway, someone bought it, took it to another state and were able to get a new VIN and title. The odd wear on the car came from being disassembled and reassembled god knows how many times. But it did indeed have only a couple of miles on it, but had a sketchy past and a bs VIN.
We had a Dodge Dart that was donated to the school because it was damaged by the car carrier.
A private yard near me got a 95 300zx a few years ago. Same teaching car for a local community College and it had 2k miles.
In 1992 and 93 I was in paint and body in high school. There was a black fiero with just a few miles on it that was donated to the school. Now back then the car was only a few years old but the teacher never touched the cars he got he just let them sit. We had a brand new Chevy caprice that the assembly line put a screw thru the roof installing some light.
This is exactly my thoughts on this car!
Do you know where this car came from? I only ask because my high school auto shop had, I believe a 1988 Fiero GT. It was pretty clear that my auto mechanic teacher loved it. If I remember right it was some stupid reason that it was supposed to be "destroyed" like it was recalled because of something stupid. It was never taken apart and it was locked up somewhere and he only took it out for demonstrations like showing different things about it. I remember telling my step dad about this car and he said "Oh, he'll find a way to get that car when he retires if he's taken care of it like that all these years". He retired and they shut down that entire class and I'm not sure what did happen to those cars. Not saying he would've done something like this as he was a pretty stand up guy but it's interesting there's one out there with a story like that.
At 13:20, that Highway Patrol foxbody belongs in a museum or my driveway.❤
I have a 35k mile, almost 36k) 95 240sx and adam did exactly what I did when I looked it over. Excellent job and adam even pointed out some small but important details that I even missed.
Btw i paid $12k in 2022
DAMN 🙄 I paid 17k for a Evo 8 ssl 7 years ago 120k.
When the radiator support is shown, it looks like there is red overspray on it, down near the ground.
Wrong rivets on vin , front end damage , something funny I would want state police to check other vin numbers before you buy
Undeclared accident and professional repair "off the books"?.. the water damage indicators are curious, but could possibly be from improper storage (eg, after the accident and before the repair). Great video, really well explained.. found that a fascinating watch.
I'm thinking the car was fairly new when it was crashed and maybe the person didn't have the insurance they should of had and it could of been improperly stored in a garage or something most of it's life until 2019 when someone bought it to repair and restore.
So, it's been hit in the front when it was nearly new, got stored for years, some of it outdoors and then was restored. I'd want to pull out the gauge cluster and see if the cluster has been replaced.
I’m glad he gave it a good value for YT. I have to say, It’s amazing that people are tearing this car apart BUT will buy a WORSE CRAPPY SHTTTY CAR for more $$$! People are DUMB..!😢
I would say that it likely is correct on the miles, but that it was likely wrecked before its first sell. I worked for a Nissan dealer in the late 80's / early 90's, and it was pretty common for these to get wrecked on test drives, or while being used as a demo.
Considering the amount of attention this car has gotten, the owner just needs to come clean with the whole story, and it would sell. It's still very likely one of the nicest S13's in the country.
I think it’s an s14 if it’s from 1995
S14 my guy
I'd think that too, if it wasn't for the fact the vin numbers been removed and replaced.. I personally think it has the cluster and vin tag from a vehicle that genuinely had the low miles, but had been damaged beyond repair and build into another that had been damaged but was repairable
omeone could have been hopping in one of the presumably other vehicles in this storage area and moving it / or just firing it up every so often, and forgot it was in gear, be it 1st or reverse, and that vehicle jumped into the 240sx at very low speeds. Just enough to mess the front bumper up, and bend that core support. This would account for why the total body respray and such. Someone didnt want to have mismatch colors from older paint and brand new on the bumper and front of the fenders. Blending can be done but a well trained eye can see it a mile away. This also causes the mismatch from under the hood to the fenders. Possibly a slightly different color mix, or even a slightly different color totally. Hence again why the total respray vs blending.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 the 240 has a blown airbag. That also explains the VIN tag rivets, and the spray on the dash. I would just about bet that it was crashed while still at the original dealer, and they fixed it and decided to store it.
I love Carcheology! I would say that a safe bet would be that the car was in a serious front ender with only 500 and some miles on it (right up to the engine pulleys, fender liners and maybe even dislodged the VIN) that possibly is an unsolved hit and run (hopefully not a fatality). It was tucked away in the back of someone's storage to hide it, and finally someone ran across it, and acquired it in 2019. They realized that they could still get the parts that they needed, possibly even a donor car for a 2 into 1 build, and then have a 240 SE with ultra low miles that is now worth some serious money.
*Potentially, if the vin Rivets are incorrect, you'd want to check the other vin locations on the car to see if the same sort of Crash and Hide scenario, later resulted in a vin swap to another body with as many of the original parts as could be salvaged?
I would really want to take a look down the front end and behind the fenders to see if it's wrinkled and straightened. And check the rest of the body's hidden VINs.
Years ago my uncle use to buy new cars here in Canada and sell them in the US, and make a decent return. Once one of the cars( a new Mercedes), got smashed. He had it repaired, quietly, and sold it at a dealer auction as a new car with 100 kilometers on it. The body work was so good that you wouldn't have known it was on a wreck, and as you're thinking it's a new car, you wouldn't be looking closely at the body, anyways.
now this seller has a complete list of things to correct so he can successfully scam some poor sucker at last 👍
😂😂😂
It's a BIG leap of faith to buy a car like that without those questions answered.
Rattle can spray paint, sounds familiar 😂
I believe there should be a matching VIN somewhere on the engine and perhaps the transmission. An auto theft investigator from the local law enforcement agency could tell you where to locate them.
That trunk Floor carpet is a commercial floormat from Sams Club, we have those mats in our dealership!
The vin rivets tell a lot. The vin is to a different 240sx that has super low miles and probably is crashed but not reported. And it was thrown on this decent shell that they cleaned up to look brand new. My theory is
Likely the car and miles are legit. However it was crashed in the front and the passenger airbag popped resulting in the need to replace the dash and that is why the vin was swapped with non correct rivets onto the replacement dash. Also the hood, fenders, bumper and bumper support (which should be the color of the car not black) were replaced hence the RDOT sticker on the hood. Sun warped driver airbag is also not original to this car. What should be done is proper oen style rivets should be used on dash vin to replace the incorrect rivets and a new or almost new driver airbag should be bought and installed if they are trying to get top survivor money for this car. I'd go as far as printing some new vin stickers for the hood and both fenders as well as obtaining the correct stickers for the top of the radiator support which are also currently missing. A little more effort and the car could look almost perfect and bring the top figures that the owner is after. Right now it looks great but still has too many obvious clues to an accident!!
Can’t you get the vin from somewhere on the body/chassis
Been thinking about this car. Obviously it has had considerable front end damage so that must have happened while it was being driven with dealer plates. Thus no car fax info. So now the dealer has a wrecked car, maybe it was totaled maybe not. Most likely the dealer sold it to a private party that sat on it or took their sweet time restoring it. It would have been interesting if you would have scanned the code with your scanner to see if that matched the vin on the tag that seemed off. Did you check the date on the tires? The alterations in the trunk could have been because of rodent damage chewing on stuff while it sat. Quite the mystery. You should keep this thread going!!
If it was sold from the giant dealership I think it was, then they had their own body shop on site to do repairs. If it got damaged in transit, or on a test drive, the transport or dealer’s insurance would have covered the repairs, and they’d just put the car in their shop and back on the lot.
Anything that looks like a duck,Walks like a duck.....And quacks......Is usually a duck !
Flying wheels found a car refinished the way he does it. lol
I’ve been around cars all my life working on them and doing body work along working at dealerships. A car with 590 miles should not have this many things done to it and I have seen trucks and cars with low mileage from the 90’s that had nothing done to them. This car I agree I would have a bunch of questions as well for everything you pointed out.
Of course that many things could have been done to it. Do you realize how many people total their cars driving them off the lot.
I worked at a Nissan dealer when these were being sold, and we probably had a half dozen of them get damaged either on test drives, or while used as demos. Back then, (at least not at the dealer I worked at), salesmen didn't go with you on test drives. I was not uncommon for people to find out the hard way that, yes, it will break the rear tires loose.
The fact that the car shows "no accidents" on that car fax report should tell you how worthless those reports really are.
Adam is really knowledgeable.
I was hoping you guys would confirm the windshield was original.
To me, the car was in a frontend collision early in its life. The dash was replaced due to the airbag going off.
The pulleys on the engine were changed because they were damaged in the accident.
It was a Nissan windshield, but there is no way for us to tell if it’s original to the car. The moldings looked factory too.
@AdamAltogether1 if it had 590miles. how old were the tyres?
The vin tag rivets are replaced because the air bag went off and messed up the dash.
This mystery was solved a while back. Someone bought the car, drove it 500 miles, wrecked and totaled it, parked it for 25 years, sold it to this jackass who repaired it, and is now trying to sell it like nothing ever happened. It was all on the 240 forums. Also, if you had gone under the front end you would have seen more issues than what you pointed out. Also, if you go to the NCIB website, the insurance website, and put in the vin, it will come back as a total loss vehicle.
It was owned by the yakusa!
Holy crap your brothers knowledge is incredible!
To change the dash pad on some cars requires the vin to be removed since its riveted to the pad. . If the airbag ripped the dash, thats a reason, or sun damage or the windshield could have cut the original dash if broken in an accident. . Under the dash dye you may see a different color dash. As far as rivets, in the body shop business the right rivets may not be an issue as it would be with classic car guy or low mileage verification detectives like craig, Great video!
Since oem rivets are illegal to sell the person who swapped the dash should have reused the original rivets from the old dash. Something I have done and it is not that hard. If they did that nobody would know about the dash swap. The warped old driver airbag obviously from a different 240sx also backs up the theory that the car was crashed in the front and both bags popped. As well as the RDOT hood and missing stickers on the top of the core support as well as black not body color bumper support!
The intro is nice. Look at you go! Tatts out on your vacation video now a new intro, this going to be a good year for you😂
If the dash had been removed to have refinished, the VIN plate would likely have been removed prior to the refinishing process.
had to have been in an accident. still a clean car though
The question here is, they bought the car in 1994, but never registered it or got it serviced until 2019? Is the owner a dealer? Using a dealer plate/dealer insurance, etc would avoid the registration stuff. On the car condition, it's obviously been repaired. So maybe the seller explains it all? I agree, it's a $20k car all day. Cool video Craig!
If it wasn’t driven, why would it have been registered and insured?
This makes a lot of sense. There is a Mitsubishi dealership that kept 2 evo 9s of each color. So they have around 12 0 mile Evo 9s stored somewhere. I think they put one of them up on BaT a couple years ago and got around $160k for it.
@@ctobias1984 Most people don't buy a brand new car to put it in storage. But as I mentioned, if the owner was a car dealer, and he only used his dealer plate on the car, then it wouldn't need to be registered and sure. Wonder if it got any servicing during the 1994-2019 years? You'd hope so, but home servicing doesn't show up on CarFax.
isnt this car owned by duncan imports?
I would not touch it with a barge pole! It clearly is not what they are representing it as so you have no idea what has really been done to it.
My guess is that the car was wrecked when it had low miles and was relatively new and was then left to sit outside for years. This would explain the repaint, the front end damage, the dash being painted, the steering wheel looking sun damaged, and the carpet in the trunk being replaced.
This reminded me of a crashed Saturn ion I fixed up and sold a few years ago it was an 06 ion the original owner crashed drunk when it was new I believe around 1200miles ...the insurance company denied the claim because of the DUI , it sat in a garage crashed from 2006 until I bought it in 2020 and fixed it and sold it .
It's great to see the banter and knowledge between you, Kevin & Adam when you three are together. The details that Adam pointed out on the 240sx just show his depth of knowledge, no wonder the internet experts brought BaT to pull the car. Wonder what it went for @ Mecum? Thanks for taking my call about the XC60
If you don't report a wreck and fix it yourself carfax will be clean and wreck free. I found out about the no reported wrecks on an Integra i bought. Guess what squeaky clean carfax and no reported wrecks, but as soon as i really dug into it i found the replaced front end.
Adam, your attention to detail and knowledge of these cars is truly an experience!
I would bet the mileage is correct, but the car was wrecked soon after purchase. The owner probably didn't have insurance or didn't want to turn it in to their insurance and let the car sit. As pointed out in the video it has some pretty obvious indication of a replaced core support and hood and possibly the airbag and dash. In the mid '90s I purchased a wrecked 1985 RX7 GSL-SE with a little over 3k miles that had been rolled. I knew about the car for a couple years before I was able to buy it but the owner wouldn't sell it because he still owed money on the loan. Once it was paid off I was able to make a deal on it.
Love the Sleuthing on this Nissan. great work
If the repairs were done very well you wouldn't have been able to notice them ......
This is one of your most interesting videos I've seen. The scariest thing is the windshield VIN change. I'd run, not walk, away.
That is likely just because the passenger airbag blew. Therfore it needed a dash replacement and they had to swap the vin over to the new dash and used incorrect rivets since original ones are not allowed to be sold by Nissan. Classic Mopars often have dashboards replaced due to cracking and there are proper replacement rivets sold by restoration places. Not so for the 240sx. Solution would have been to reuse the original rivets but they were not slick enough to do that.
When you have someone like Adam that is a conneseur of these cars and knows what they came with originally etc. there is NO hiding the LIES
This car came from Duncan imports I’ve seen it in person and from what I’ve heard it was a dealer promo car or something like that and it had a front end collision that damaged the core support and pushed the radiator into the pulleys. The underside was undercoated and the damage wasn’t reported to insurance
As soon as a saw the still of the funky airbag cover, I knew that it was wrecked. The other details just solidified it. I'm thinking that the car WAS preserved, albeit, maybe poorly, and there may have been some moisture issues inside of it, and maybe on the body. I think it was wrecked after someone got the car out of storage. Maybe a tire blew out and they wrecked it, but had it fixed. I would have date code checked the tires. That's a LOT of effort to fake a 590-mile 1994 240, otherwise, man. Even if they sold it at $20k, I can't see how they'd money on it if that were the case.
Bet the original owner had it stored, then someone crashed it. It sat outside and it was vandalized. As values went up he sold it to the dealer who repaired it and is trying to flip it.
Wow, what great sleuthing! Really makes you wonder when you're buying a used car even from a reputable dealer that the car isn't what is being represented. Great video, excellent info. Would love to know the real history on this car.
The most plausible theory to me is this car was involved in a flood in Virginia in around 2019 before it was sold
I think the mileage is accurate but it definitely was involved in some sort of a front end collision. Maybe that’s exactly why miles are so low. It was wrecked when basically brand new and then put in storage until someone decided to repair/restore it.
Here's my question: If someone bought a car and took a loan and then they sat on it for 20 years and just made payments it makes no sense. I guess that wasn't a question. Why didn't they claim it on their collision insurance and have it fixed? If they had so much money they didn't need insurance - again why didn't they fix it? Was it involved in an accident/injury/leaving they scene scenario.. .? Curious! And to go to such lengths to repair it many years later and leave the R DOT sticker underneath the hood. Sloppy? Oh well. Interesting.
The lowest mile vehicle i ever purchased was a 1989 Nissan hardbody truck.
5 miles on the odometer.
Bought from my favorite auto wrecker.
It had JUST been delivered to the local dealer and was hit softly by an 18 wheeler in the front and run through a brick wall. Hood, 1 fender, tailgate and bumper was the only damage.
Clear title because the trucking company paid the bill rather than reporting the claim to the insurance company.
I think I paid 3 grand and another 800 to fix it using aftermarket parts.
Sold it 2 years later for 7....
For sure a Flying Wheels spray paint special. If Craig bought it. It would be interesting to see what he could do to screw it up. He would be chomping at the bit to spray paint something on it. Great video though and your brother has an amazing amount of knowledge.
There's over spray on the front cross member Infront of the radiator, it's a ringer.
Would love the owner to roll up catching y’all talking shit on his car lol😂
I like that Datsun king cab pick up in the background
Back in 1990's they used a speedometer cable & many disconnected them & drove to keep miles off as there no way to check it as no ODB port till 1996 & on. Carfax showed 2 owners & a salvage title correction & AutoCheck did not exist back then so report will not be accurate. If it truly has been sitting for years check the seals in the motor as they dry out & also the timing belt may of dried up or have crack.
Ripped the owner a new one, finally. He just needs to accept that it’s junk and get his money.
I'm not trying to be facetious, but I'm old school with a "no sunglasses on the lot" mentality. Eye contact is important in this business. I respect the work that you do, but if we're picking nits...
The pulley are also a sign of front end damage. I'd check the front of the engine for crash damage.
That 240sx is actually a Pontiac Fiero with a body kit
I would lean towards the damage happening at the dealership. People test drive brand new cars and rearend someone and the dealer fixes it and throws it back out on the lot as new. My neighbor had bought a brand new truck in the 90s and when it hit the right sunlight we figured that the whole side had been side swiped and repainted. Also maybe someone bought it and immediately unhooked the speedo cable and it has a lot more miles on it but they planned on trying to keep them as low as possible.
You very well could have unraveled the mystery right there!
I do think the 590 miles are original but I think the car has been in a pretty decent front end accident and probably set for a long time till it was put back together
Someone had a cleaner crashed 240, swapped vins 240sx with no history ta da low mileage car.
Makes me wonder if the car was wrecked by the original owner soon after buying it. Kept the wrecked car in their garage for years, and recently had the body work done to get it ready for sale.
Exactly what I think happened. Bought new and crashed at a couple weeks old and stored. Until a few years ago when they realized it is worth some money. Might have spend some years outside due to the rusty bracket and possibly water damaged carpets in the boot/trunk. The dash and paint probably was also sun faded so it was repainted.
I would buy into the theory of the car was in a front end collision at a dealership, then got into an insurance dispute that tied it up for years, and then maybe forgotten until someone said I want it. It’s worth a lot with that low mileage.
When you question “why” it isn’t what it suppose to be. Then It isn’t what it suppose to be. Pretty dang obvious it’s not in pristine condition
Bring a Trailer is a best-in-breed auction site and the hold sellers to account when they misrepresent things.
Mecum, not so much.
The rerivet vin plate is the biggest thing I have to question. The biggest thing about it is those rivets can only be gotten from the secretary of State or DMV or title so department not even the manufacturer can replace a vin tag or rivets. So that means that there has to be paperwork somewhere from getting those. It has definitely been hit in the front end and no it couldn't have been transit damage as that would have had to be reported by the dealership and manufacturer and listed on the original title and branded as transit damage. So there would have been a record of it and it's a pretty big deal if caught falsifying that type of situation and is federal law so it would not be likely for a dealership to bother with it when they can just make the insurance claim against the transport company. In all likelihood it was bought and the original owner got in an accident and they had enough money to pay the payment and park the car in the garage or wherever they parked and the only thing left to question is was it repaired before it sold in 2019 or after?
If the dash had been removed to be refinished, it's not hard to imagine the VIN plate being removed to avoid having to mask it off.
@@danielhartin7680 the dash pad is separate from the structure that the vin is attached to and you can't legally just remove the vin tag as it's illegal to tamper with or remove
First thing that comes to mind is this car was salvaged off of one of those ocean going RoRo boats that partially capsized without sinking. I'm sure not every car was scrapped....
Could have been an accident 590 miles and didn’t reported to an insurance company. And he kept it to rebuild it.
I seen a clapped 240sx high mileage with clear signs of a previous turbo modification sell for $6k in Illinois