Fake Nagoya NA 771with Baofeng 888s
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2018
- This ebay antenna cost just 99p. Lets see if it makes any difference in range tests with a Boafeng 888s 446 Mhz radio.
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I use these on 449 Mhz (I have a Business Licence) and re-tuned from PMR using 'chirp' software and power to 5w. Amazing radio. Does the job beautifully.
Been looking for these types of tests on the Baofeng 888s and knock off antennas. Thanks Fred!
Very interesting results with the antenna test. It makes sense that a longer antenna "should" produce better RX and TX. Thanks for sharing. I look forward now to the additional antenna testing. Good luck with it.
Thanks Andy. I guess size does matter :-)
Thanks for the range test. It's exactly what I've been looking for. I don't understand how people are complaining about Chinese Antennas when they bought a Chinese radio. Lol
Definitely better mate, I have a few but never actually use them! Let me know if you need a couple more you're more than welcome.
Great test, great video as always
Cheers Lewis. Not bad for 99p :-)
Definitely more clarity with the 771.
Thanks for uploading!
Not sick of these vids at all, All great!
I tend to setup a lot of transceivers for businesses and amateur operators. Usually, the radios are shipped straight to my home. I got three Baofeng FP-F8HP hand held transceivers and set them up and also ordered Nagoya 771 antennas. But they turned out being counterfeits, which I noticed immediately. But I put them on their transceivers and sent them on their way. Every single one of the fakes broke the capacitor inside the antenna and lost the dual band ability in three months time. I then ordered different Nagoya antennas from a different vendor and got the real ones. As far as I know, the three Baofengs are still working with the real antennas.
Thanks Fred! Just bought 2 pieces Baofeng 888s for only 15 euros (~ 12 pounds) including chargers, straps etc. Only thing missing was programming cable so I had to order that separately. I was surprised to see the cheapest Puxing 777 (VHF) for more than 30 euros and I bought mine in 2012 for only 14 euros. Some brands become cheaper and others more expensive, very strange. Like your videos, carry on!
Thanks buddy. Amazing prices on these 888s an they are good radios
Good review well done was thinking of buying one of these made my mind up cheers Fred.
You cant go wrong John for the pocket money they sell for.
thank you Fred for the info
Thanks for the tutorial. Top job! Cheers from Australia 👍👍👍🙂
A very concise test. Thanks
Really enjoy all your videos. I have a Baofeng UV3 and that 771 knock-off antenna:)
The UV3 has all the same deep menus of baffling features as a UV5... but has the 2 Watt output of a 888 walkie.
I have tested the 771 against the short original antenna on the UV3. This is where it gets complicated...
BIG difference on VHF 144MHz, not a big difference on UHF 440MHz. Seems to be the case that VHF really needs longish antennas, and UHF (because of its much higher frequency) will do very well on 6 inch antennas.
If you look at the little T1 you tested, the little built-in antenna is simply too short even for UHF. That said, Baofeng has obviously optimised the length of the little coiled wire in its stumpy bump of an antenna, because it does actually manage amazingly well, doesn't it?
On your walk to the flyover, the T1 got surprisingly close to the 888... except it suffered dropouts when you were in some low points. So it CAN do some decent range, but is more of a fair weather sailor if you encounter some terrain along the way:)
In an ideal world it would have 7 inches. (And in that ideal world I would be 7 inches too;)!!
There is a modest upgrade that I found delivers a bit of audio quality and a few hundred yards of range on BOTH VHF and UHF, and it's using either a Nagoya 701 or the slightly longer 666 (I buy knockoffs as well:)
The NA-701 is about 7 inches and the NA-666 is around 8 inches, and they only cost a few dollars for the "SMA Female" versions for these popular 888 and UV5R walkies.
Your videos provide important real-world comparisons, and can even settle some arguments.
There is another fellow on RUclips who hacks his BF-T1 antenna with a longer length of floppy wire that dangles out of a hole he drilled in the top of the antenna bump on the case. Fair enough - but he either got a dud unit or he is prone to exaggerating outrageously, because he says that a T1 will only work over a hundred yards or so. You have proved that is bunk! You got close to a half mile... and now we have your range test on RUclips forever to settle the matter.
Cheers
Ross vk1fcbx Australia.
Thanks Ross for all the information there. Extending the antenna on the Bf-T1 does not always equal extra range due to the SWR issue.
They are sooo close!!! Even at 1.6 ml. Incredible on 446
I like the look of them!
I enjoy the videos Fred. I was toying around with getting the Nagoya. I think I will.
Well for 99p its rude not too :-) Thanks
Very helpful test.thank you.😊
You sold me. I ordered one out of China for my UV5R. It almost broke the bank at $1.37 USD delivered ;)
Crazy prices and they work really well :-)
I picked up the same antenna knockoff for 2.00$ hasn't failed me yet. For a fake it's not bad.
I have the next model up the baofeng bf-999s and the range on high power and on the wide band is really good even with trees in the way as that can affect the range. I was using the stock rubber ducky antenna and the range is bril. My next test will be on low power and narrow band to see if it makes a diffrence and come back eith an update, as i have pre programmed channels 1-4 to be on low power and narrow band.
I love your reviews Fred!!! Thanx again 73
Thanks Fergus
I tested with my fake Nagoya at home - on 2m and 70 - with standard duckie on my handset in the field. Fully quieting at a mile on both bands. Couldn't tell much difference. Shocking, breaks all the rules! Will have to test with a Nagoya on both to see just how far I can get out.
Interesting result. I guess sometimes size does not matter.
I got one and it works great on mine too. Well worth 99p !
I just cant see how you can go wrong on a cheap radio.
This video was really helpful, thank you ! 👍
Glad to hear that!
Hi Fred I prefer the 888s over any baofeng I have had. As you know me and the wife use them on a daily basis very cheap radio but good quality around the mile Mark
Yes it was because you had them that i got one in to test. Your costing be dough again. Glad to hear from you. :-)
shaun pi i totaly agree Shaun well worth the money and a great little radio. Hope u are ok mate nice to see you commenting
Yes.they sure beat the Motorola Talkabouts!
Shit iv been using my 888 out of the box...god only knows what frequency’s it’s been spewing out best chirp them 😬
Well done!
i like your baofeng videos :)
Thanks to the guest. I had a dilemma whether to buy this antenna, because it wrote up to 144/430 mhz but thanks to you I know that they fit up to 446 mhz
They seem to work ok at 446 Mhz. ive not checked the SWR but the radio seems ok with them.
OK thank you for your answer
No probs. Most welcome.
Will the original nagoya work
And if I can ask if such an antenna will increase range. If so, how many kilometers
Does anyone make a UHF only upgrade antenna that fits the 888?
I want to run 460 ish Mhz and I worry the SWR on a dual band made for 430 will be too high.
Useful thanks
Bought two na771 on EBay for my uv5r and bf888s! They got way better range! I picked up a baseball game 120 miles away! It had to been a Repeater not simplex! Amazing antenna! Tomorrow I am going to test simplex to simplex! I will update my comments! Thanks
SilverStone XAdvanced I’m shocked! It was at night! And I know at night signals can reach greater distances! The broadcast was coming from Reno NV college baseball game! I live in California around 120 miles opposite direction of Reno! 4-5 watt radio reaches far! Thanks
SilverStone XAdvanced that’s legit! I also got into CB! CB radio is cool!
SilverStone XAdvanced I wonder if I can make contact with international
Space station using the na771!
SilverStone XAdvanced just tried it got nothing lol
SilverStone XAdvanced pretty long antenna! If I made contact with a repeaters 120 miles! I would think I could at least receive or transmit! But I just thought it be funny to try!
Keep testing! I have a pair of UV5rs :)
I’ve got one of these for my Baofeng GT3, its not as good at picking stuff up as the stuby NL-350 (possibly a clone as well) but then that was a whopping 8 quid!! 8 quid!! The Abbreeeeeeee foldable tactical antennas also at 8 quid are deaf by the way.
Definitely a lot better from the voice and generally a stronger signal.
Grat mate
For me RT22 is better radio than BF888s. The same range. Better for the pocket and the antenna can not be broken. The only plus in the BF888s is what can be placed an external antenna. It should be a base radio, cheap radio for a house or a car. Because there is also a battery eliminator for him. But as a practical handheld, the RT22 and WLN KD-C1 are better.
The audio quality is better with the nagoza knock off!
I have a small scanner (IC R6) and want to listen to marine frequencies (about 156MHz) and think I'll try and get a better antenna. the Nagoya 771 is always mentioned as a good buy.
Would this be good for my situation, or perhaps a magnetic one I could stick on top of my car, when i am near the local harbour. Trouble is, I don't really know enough to decide what is a good one.
Hi. An ext antenna will nearly always give you a better receive. A mag mounted antenna would be ideal.
I found the 2 nagoya knock offs worked well.That was a good few years back.Got some this year and they didnt make much difference on tx or rx.
I have done a similar comparison. Fake Nagoya NA-771 on a Baofent UV5S, and I cannot tell much difference between the short antenna that the radio came with and the longer Nagoya Fake. I am tempted to buy a genuine one to see if they are any better...
Just ordered retevis 771 and cignis 777 bc i will give away the fake nagoya to my friend who is to cheap to spend $3 to have it so we can communicate on simplex LOL
Does the charger for a 888 work for a UV5R
Trouble to rem. I think not as the 5R is bigger but not 100%
Don't mind buying fake knowingly , apart from the fact that it might damage your radio.
Hi Fred I got a Nagoya 771 on my baofung radio be good best attena I. Got brilliant on my baofung cost me 12 quid all best Fred mark from loughbrough Leicestershire CT 2674
Does this additional antenna let you use wider fq?
No not really as its supposed to be tuned to 2m/ 70cm band.
You think that's good? Last night I was listening to Yorkshire PMR446 club at Holme Moss on the standard antenna.........in Irlam, Salford UK, that must be 20+ miles away and they were conversing with Runcorn and Bolton. I heard them all pretty good but the Holme Moss (elevated location) was exceptional. That standard aerial, especially with a 16cm counterpoise attached is far better than most users appreciate.
hi Fred,
I think the short antenna just had the edge audio was better.
73's Alan CT2661.
Thanks Alan. I thought it sounded a bit thin on the short antenna but the camera auto adjusts the sound level. :-(
I think so too Alan. The shorter one was far better audio wise
This antina prefer than NA-771 model is maxcimum talking range km from set to set use it
A Chinese knockoff of a Chinese antenna? What's the world coming to?
KnockOffCeption
Everything is copied nowadays. They even clone a £7 Casio watch.
Taiwan
It's Japanese bro
@@TEABAGTV the name might be Japanese. But they are made in Taiwan. Here you can call Bro. 866-3-3644980
Yep the longer antenna deffo had the edge over the shorter one mate i just find them too long. Its personal preference tho mate lots of people think its worth haveing a longer antenna to get the slightly better performance. I just prefer the smaller all round package lol
Yes your right Gary the longer antenna is a bit of a handful. Prob best for use in a open space.
So what's the swr of both antennas?
Dont know as the radio does not have a meter.
Have you done a video on these foldable tactical antennas, over 40 inches etc.
Hi Dan. No ive never tested one.
@@CB-RADIO-UK could be a good video for you, also looking at uv-9r plus with 15 W, thinking those could be useful, havent come across a UK video on those in opperation.
The longer antenna had less static at long range. That itself is worth 99 pence.
I bought the Nagoya Chinese knock off and when I put the swr on it it was off the scale. Buyer beware.
Can you test in VHF? I heard that Nagoya is no good above 430mhz
Tested on 446 Mhz and works totally fine.
sounded worse or the same . good test tho and nice radio
dh-771 antenna (red) shorten 17 cm for 446 mhz pmr
I have got fake Nagoya na771. They worked at 2m (swr 1,3:1) but not at all at 70cm (6:1). Can only be used at 2m.
Hello fred, Did you reprogram Boafeng 888s.
Hi John. Yes i used CHIRP to program the standard 8 pmr channels.
What do you think is the best portable anntena, for the UV 5r, you think the 771 is enough? Thanks!
I think the 771 slightly improves things. Some people make their own. If your static you can throw up a better antenna on a patch lead.
@@CB-RADIO-UK im actually planning to be static, i have in mind a few "diy" antennas but I'm not really sure, for now I'm gonna use the 771! Btw; how "people make their own"? Thanks!!
I purchased a PMR DRX111 Hotwire T2LT type antenna and that works ok. Easy enough to make.
ruclips.net/video/wz3grcj6OLs/видео.html
@@CB-RADIO-UK wow, really really cool, I'm gonna look at that, thanks!
It’s quite a miracle that they can make and send a antenna for that price, I don’t even think they making any money just positive feedback maybe 😂
China prices always amaze me.
Really good, a shame you didn’t test the range to the full extent.
I’ve got the 888s and fake 771 but never paired them,,,,,, till now 😏
Thanks for your hard work
Hi my needed 5 piece Nagoya na 771 antina?
771 antenna's available on Ebay
I probaly hot a knock off to I paid about 3.00 dollars for mine on Ali express
View # 10,000!!
Link for antenna pls
Vids too old but the fake ones are all over ebay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355086183323?hash=item52acc92b9b:g:CmgAAOSwoi1lIA6g&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKBY8N2dscNtn3CeWu2rzQe3VHYrlWRM9XDA4EUq8eCueTqla6hdPJUQQUWFTKYuotBun7k8tpcVnbJnN9Gjyv51UVdYCMs8h61JqdRhDkONHWA%2F3%2FiMoEJ0x81%2B65671w3sn73e7H8iPxlVC4I00tPT0zYiU5n%2Bo2%2Bplc6dnGilAwhlWUZNmn4VlsQQtKh6RWbELKILqAHqQzkirMNqHHyiO27Ew8jXuhu4GLKq9Yz7wmVB9g5VbS1zQ9AMsDmcEg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4DUhdujYw
How to know if those Triple-Eight are fake ones?
Hard to tell. The moulding on the case work is poor on the copies. Most 888 will be gen at around £12-18. The Plus models have poor moldings.
@@CB-RADIO-UK thanks mate
I bought a fake NA-771 equivalent to $1 and it turns out to be worse than the stock antenna on the UV-5R lol
More noise on FM Radio, struggle to receive signals from the VHF while the stock antenna works no problem on the exact same frequency, and also more noise in the UHF frequency.
Yes some people have said the same thing. Ive tested mine (Ive got 4) and they seem ok but these antennas are really cheap now so quality will suffer.
Play 771 was much louder at 1.6 miles
Hi is that female antenna?
Hi yes the center pin is female.
I paid 28bucks with shipping for 2
Idk what happened but I was transmitting for a long time with this antenna and my radio got so hot the screen was fading and the radio was super hot! I took it off and used my rubber ducky.
Sounds like it had a short
fredintheshed1 it worked awesome! But my radio felt like it was going to explode! My screen was fading because of how hot it was. Thanks
nagoya 771 China.. I use it Give Better Audio Sound and Clear...Compare to The Stock Anttena..I'm From The Philippines..73s
sir san mo nabili how much po?
I am trying cignus 771 and retevis 771 hoping better quality because i dont want to mess up my radios because i use it alot heard it can damage in long run . Hope thier better then my fakes from Lazada ???? A little more expensive but hope its better quality
Less QRM on the 771
The 771 was better overall.
I think the fake 771 makes a bit of a difference. Have you never thought about doing a ham license? I'm in the middle of studying it. Not rocket science. I think it would open up more opportunities for you.
Hi Gary. Yes i will get my ticket one day. Just not got the time to spend on radio with work etc. Its on the list.
Good luck when you do. I got a local club that is doing a 2 day foundation course for £50 including 1 year membership to that club. You have all the gear you need to get started. It would also be a great set of videos for your channel. I've subbed and look forward to seeing the vids.
Cheers Gary.
if my uv5r battery hadnt of bulged and exploded and almost burnt my house down i would of taken it up dunstable downs with my 446 dipole and seen if we could of heard eachother
Oh crap Steve !. i gave you a shout on the 450 d video mate.
was just watching as you commented lol
Antennae fake?. Think not. my dremmel, and a swr.meter. On a wooden table away from all mains, and autos. watching the meter. Inch ever closer to a good mach. Then return the end cap to place.has gotten me several good tails. For use or bust. Have to watch me kit. as more then one has been "pinched" eh? there cheep. hi hi. Kind give a blind eye. De kv4li 73.
Need to test to it's fullest range until it won't receive
Full nano test. ruclips.net/video/bGlHKfFlbvY/видео.html
How do you tell if it's a fake antenna?
Asking for a friend. 🤪😂😂😂
By looking at it you really cannot tell. There is info online showing pics of gen 771's
@@CB-RADIO-UK
That's the problem, as a newbie, we're ripe for scamming. 😂
I just picked one up for £4.50. Mine is garbage!!!!!!!
:-(
I checked the swr of my antenna today. It's 5:1 on both 2 meters and 70 centimeters. Totally unusable!
I bought two of these waste of money worse then the small ones that come standard, the radios are decent though.
Why
@@nazranzafran3807 They have no range they are a downgrade from the standard ones in my case that is, they went in the bin.
But others say they are good so for the price maybe worth getting, both mine might have been just not good.
@@nemie240 you i should buy or not.can suggest good antenna?
@@nazranzafran3807 I can not advise, I myself would not buy them again, but others are saying they improve range I just did not experience that, in fact I lost over 70% of range they were useless, but was it just a bad batch I cannot not answer.
Retevis 771 is much better than Nagoya 771 (no fake)
Ordered and on the way . Will see if any better dont want to end up damaging my radios
Fake Antenna !
Yes as the title
Miles?? We're in Europe, we use kilometers.
Just for you :-) www.unitconverters.net/length/km-to-miles.htm