Thank you for the input. Many people have left a comment regarding these issues. I have taken them to heart and now when i test i am out of the vehicle with my antenna up. I am planning to re test these soon using the advice that has been given.👍
Why can´t everyone do their radio reviews with this kind of testing???? I´ve been looking for a good range test on these and other models, this is the first one I´ve come across that really did a real life kind of test.
I second that motion! This is a REAL WORLD more than average type of radio use than these folks that take the time to do a great video but drive up the closest mountain to see "how far" they can transmit! Grrrrrrrr! If anything the mountain is always the thing in your way! Not where you are transmitting from! Thanks a bunch for a great test! This is a real world application test right here folks!
If I were using any walkie talkie/handie talkie inside the car I'd hook it up to a magnetically mounted roof antenna for the best reception. That way it doesn't matter which orientation you have the main unit itself in. Otherwise he should have gotten out of the car each time to give a more accurate test or do it all three ways.
I agree , biggest mistake here is having the radio inside the car , it’s not a mobile radio , it’s a handheld meant for outdoor operation. the car alone emits more interference than anything around you lol
Very true but what we have here is a real world test.... Imagine inclement weather like hurricane force winds and rain, hail, snow storm etc etc... you're not likely AT ALL to be standing outside. Yes the atmospheric conditions will also affect range but seriously the folks who are buying these radios or are going to be handed this radio in an emergency are not the type to understand more than turn it on and push the button to talk.
A few folks mentioned using a better antenna, and I agree. Here's why... That let's us *compare* real-world dirt-cheap comes-with-the-radio rubber-duck vs. a high-gain whip antenna; because if I am *planning* on using these in an emergency (the premise of your video) then I AM going to have high performance whip antennas available. I'd also record your voice at the receiver at your house, and edit it into the video so we can hear the quality of your transmission from the car. That is equally important information in a *communications* test/demo. Thanks for the demo.
Thank you for the input. Some of the ideas you have mentioned are things i plan on trying in a future video. Is there a specific antenna you are interested im pairing with this radio?
I'd like to see you do the test again while outside the car. The metal body of the car creates a Faraday Cage. This prevents electrical energy from escaping intact.
I think it was a nice, practical test under real world circumstances. No need for mountain climbing or drones. These 2 watt radios are not about distance. They are what they are. Besides, it would be hard to drive from the outside of the car.
I got a mile on mine. I'm sure it went further. When I went down the ways there was hills and building it broke up. Then I went to the market which is exactly 1.1 miles and I got clear reception. My apt is in view of the market I can see it from my balcony clear as day. So it reached loud and clear. It's line of sight type shit. It penetrates through concrete and metal well
1. This is a great test. 2. These radios are an absolute steal for the money. As of May, 2019 you can get two of them for $21 directly from Amazon (not 3rd party). 3. These are technically illegal but don't let people scare you away. (See note below) 4. In the United States program them for FRS channels Note: The FCC has different regulations that cover each type of radio service. Commercial is called Part 90, Amateur Radio is Part 97, and FRS/GMRS/CB/MURS is part 95. When it comes to part 90/95 devices must be certified or "type accepted" to be legal. When you hear someone say it's "not part 95 type accepted" what they mean is the radio has not been approved by the FCC for use on those services or bands. The BF-888s and a number of chinese radios have been part 90 approved but haven't been approved for use in part 95 services. The reason many part 90 radios haven't been type accepted for part 95 isn't because of technical limitations. These radios are often perfectly capable radios but have other things such as removable antennas or the ability to program the radio. If you use it on FRS/GMRS there isn't any real way the FCC will know if you're using a "type accepted" radio or a cheap Chinese made radio as technically they are perfectly capable radios. However, if you're intentionally/unintentionally transmitting outside the FRS/GMRS channels or causing interference to others they will likely track you down so make sure you program them correctly and use common sense. The FCC still has never fined anyone for simply using these on FRS/GMRS frequencies.
@@yusufdonmez621 the legal answer is no because they aren't certified. However, if you follow some basic rules it's perfectly fine and you'll never have an issue. Make sure they are properly programmed for use on FRS and/or GMRS frequencies. They will only go after people when they are causing issues for others like talking over others, holding down the transmit button to cause interference, etc.. The further away from cities the less likely this will ever be an issue. If using GMRS frequencies you do need a license but no test required.
you should hold the radio so the antenna is upright and you should be outside your car. I have the Baofeng BF-F8HP, but then to use that you need a license. I don't know much about that radio your using, but if you use a longer/better antenna, your range and signal will be much better.
James Hart good advice about the antenna up and out of vehicle. I did not want to modify at all so i could see how well this system works out of the box.
Nice demonstration of these radios. On the last test you would have got better performance if you had got out if your metal box and standing hold the aerial vertical. For the money these really are great little radios. Thanks for the video.
The truck is also an impending factor without clear line of sight.....Also holding the radio sideways is not helping either......Just to be fair to the radio....you should try the same distance with those adjustments, and see what happens.
Thanks for responding to my question. I have another one. Does the baofeng walkie talkie have to be programmed to be used a GRMS or FRMS walkie talkie?
Great video you gave a lot of info about these radios for the price you can't beat them I remember I did a test with a pair of Midland GTX the 36 Mi on 50 Channel basic black and silver edition on garm frequency performing a similar test liking this video lots of tall trees houses ground elevating and D elevating at certain spots I was able to achieve 1.7 miles Bond on average there 25 to $50 more to be fair
@@unclebillscamping I will update this comment when they arrive but I've purchased that set up the bf-888s and na 771 antennas if I had to take a guess obviously if you hit a repeater channel from an antenna anywheres from 50 to 100 miles but radio to radio I would probably say the 1-mile distance would be a little bit staticky but more consistent
Yea I agree. I have been trying to do better with my reviews and have learned a lot from my viewers. I think I may revisit this test and try to to an in vehicle and out of vehicle test along with showing the tidradio programmer.
In the uk, I get half mile are towns are more dense than your so called city lol, that's why I switched to bofang UV 5rd I get a bike now ul get 3 miles easy
For city work, its best to use the 70cm band, but then again you need to be licensed to use that. But dont expect much range. And yes I am a licensed Ham radio operator.
You could upgrade the antenna. That would be the first thing i would do. And as people have pointed out to me in the comment section make sure to not be in an enclosed area and hold the radio straight up.
Christian Olivares its a strange situation with these radios. I would say yes you should have a licence to operate these radios but at the same time these radios do not comply with fcc rules as i understand it so its kind of a use at your own risk situation. I believe the newer models are part 90 but it still falls in a gray area. I woud use these in a emergency situation only or in remote locations where you are not running the chance of interfering with commercial operators like hospitals and security firms.
You made many errors in your distance test. First of all both parties must hold their radios such that antenna points up, for best range, second, the car eats up most of signal. You should at least turn around and face home. Or best, get out of car. Face home and hold antenna straight up and you'll be amazed at how much more range you get!
Your feedback is very welcome. Thanks to viewers comments like yours In my later radio reviews i have started getting out of the vehicle and making sure my antenna is pointing up. I may revisit these radios and perform another test using the advise given. Thanks you
The angle you hold the radio to the vertical makes a difference. It will also work better outside of the car.
Thank you for the input. Many people have left a comment regarding these issues. I have taken them to heart and now when i test i am out of the vehicle with my antenna up. I am planning to re test these soon using the advice that has been given.👍
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@@unclebillscampingjust think of radio waves out and in to the antenna as small waves after a stone in water in a pond 😊
@tomijorg that is an excellent way to explain it.
Why can´t everyone do their radio reviews with this kind of testing???? I´ve been looking for a good range test on these and other models, this is the first one I´ve come across that really did a real life kind of test.
+E&E im glad you liked the video. I was trying to give a realistic out of the box test.
I second that motion! This is a REAL WORLD more than average type of radio use than these folks that take the time to do a great video but drive up the closest mountain to see "how far" they can transmit! Grrrrrrrr! If anything the mountain is always the thing in your way! Not where you are transmitting from! Thanks a bunch for a great test! This is a real world application test right here folks!
@@unclebillscamping excellent test enjoyed the video post......
Because they're only churning out reviews for free radios, using clickbait.
Aftermarket antennas like Nagoya NA 771 and hold the antennas upright. Outside the car (that is also acting like a cage), you would do even better
If I were using any walkie talkie/handie talkie inside the car I'd hook it up to a magnetically mounted roof antenna for the best reception. That way it doesn't matter which orientation you have the main unit itself in. Otherwise he should have gotten out of the car each time to give a more accurate test or do it all three ways.
Two Nagoya 771 would cost a large chunk of the price of these radios but they would work a LOT better for sure.
@@greatpix thank you :
never thought of that thank :
If you could put one up high somewhere equipped with a simplex repeater you could easily cover a whole city...
You should try the test again while holding the radio straight up and outside the car, you should get better reception.
I agree , biggest mistake here is having the radio inside the car , it’s not a mobile radio , it’s a handheld meant for outdoor operation. the car alone emits more interference than anything around you lol
Very true but what we have here is a real world test.... Imagine inclement weather like hurricane force winds and rain, hail, snow storm etc etc... you're not likely AT ALL to be standing outside. Yes the atmospheric conditions will also affect range but seriously the folks who are buying these radios or are going to be handed this radio in an emergency are not the type to understand more than turn it on and push the button to talk.
A few folks mentioned using a better antenna, and I agree. Here's why...
That let's us *compare* real-world dirt-cheap comes-with-the-radio rubber-duck vs. a high-gain whip antenna; because if I am *planning* on using these in an emergency (the premise of your video) then I AM going to have high performance whip antennas available.
I'd also record your voice at the receiver at your house, and edit it into the video so we can hear the quality of your transmission from the car. That is equally important information in a *communications* test/demo.
Thanks for the demo.
Thank you for the input. Some of the ideas you have mentioned are things i plan on trying in a future video. Is there a specific antenna you are interested im pairing with this radio?
@@unclebillscamping either a Original Nagoya 771 or Signal Stuff Signal Stick
just purchased a set for camping after watching this thanks mate
No problem. Im glad i could help
@@unclebillscamping thanks i subbed you :)
Thanks mate likewise :)
I'd like to see you do the test again while outside the car. The metal body of the car creates a Faraday Cage. This prevents electrical energy from escaping intact.
Totally agree and also holding the antenna sideways, it needs to be vertical
I think it was a nice, practical test under real world circumstances. No need for mountain climbing or drones. These 2 watt radios are not about distance. They are what they are.
Besides, it would be hard to drive from the outside of the car.
I could only assume that the denser the area with taller buildings would reduce the range
I got a mile on mine. I'm sure it went further. When I went down the ways there was hills and building it broke up. Then I went to the market which is exactly 1.1 miles and I got clear reception. My apt is in view of the market I can see it from my balcony clear as day. So it reached loud and clear. It's line of sight type shit. It penetrates through concrete and metal well
Ive noticed. When your in a vehical the car blocks signal if you step out. It does better
Put the car in "park" first, then?
Awesome review, Best i've seen in a while. Keep it up!
Thanks so much for this - helped me make a buying decision (worth it). Great job !!!
No problem and thank you for the kind comment
1. This is a great test.
2. These radios are an absolute steal for the money. As of May, 2019 you can get two of them for $21 directly from Amazon (not 3rd party).
3. These are technically illegal but don't let people scare you away. (See note below)
4. In the United States program them for FRS channels
Note: The FCC has different regulations that cover each type of radio service. Commercial is called Part 90, Amateur Radio is Part 97, and FRS/GMRS/CB/MURS is part 95. When it comes to part 90/95 devices must be certified or "type accepted" to be legal. When you hear someone say it's "not part 95 type accepted" what they mean is the radio has not been approved by the FCC for use on those services or bands. The BF-888s and a number of chinese radios have been part 90 approved but haven't been approved for use in part 95 services. The reason many part 90 radios haven't been type accepted for part 95 isn't because of technical limitations. These radios are often perfectly capable radios but have other things such as removable antennas or the ability to program the radio. If you use it on FRS/GMRS there isn't any real way the FCC will know if you're using a "type accepted" radio or a cheap Chinese made radio as technically they are perfectly capable radios. However, if you're intentionally/unintentionally transmitting outside the FRS/GMRS channels or causing interference to others they will likely track you down so make sure you program them correctly and use common sense. The FCC still has never fined anyone for simply using these on FRS/GMRS frequencies.
@@yusufdonmez621 the legal answer is no because they aren't certified. However, if you follow some basic rules it's perfectly fine and you'll never have an issue. Make sure they are properly programmed for use on FRS and/or GMRS frequencies. They will only go after people when they are causing issues for others like talking over others, holding down the transmit button to cause interference, etc.. The further away from cities the less likely this will ever be an issue. If using GMRS frequencies you do need a license but no test required.
I just bought one for $1.50 at a flea market it had a turn on button is gone but then the Nats in good shape
Keep in mind when tesitng ranges that the "average distance" considered to be "within walking distance" (schools stores etc) is LESS than half a mile.
you should hold the radio so the antenna is upright and you should be outside your car. I have the Baofeng BF-F8HP, but then to use that you need a license. I don't know much about that radio your using, but if you use a longer/better antenna, your range and signal will be much better.
James Hart good advice about the antenna up and out of vehicle. I did not want to modify at all so i could see how well this system works out of the box.
thank you for this helped me so much! Needs more likes.
Your welcome, I am glad you found it helpful.
Nice demonstration of these radios. On the last test you would have got better performance if you had got out if your metal box and standing hold the aerial vertical. For the money these really are great little radios. Thanks for the video.
If you got out of the car and moved about 2 metres away from the car, the range would increase. The bodywork is like a Fraday cage.
I have been told this several times and plan on doing another range test away from the vehicle to better test the range. Thanks🤙
The truck is also an impending factor without clear line of sight.....Also holding the radio sideways is not helping either......Just to be fair to the radio....you should try the same distance with those adjustments, and see what happens.
you should went mile n quarter may have been clearer than one mile depending on elevation worth a try
Did you use the progam to boost it's signal?
Thanks for responding to my question. I have another one. Does the baofeng walkie talkie have to be programmed to be used a GRMS or FRMS walkie talkie?
My brother received my transmission and we are 2 kms away apart inside city
@@lollolol9586 2 kilometer is about 1.25 mile
@@FredVellekoop tanks i deleted the comment I forgot i commented such bs
If he stood outside the vehicle
It would work better, because
The vehicle can cut down the range of the radios.
Very impressive for the price!
Yes they are. Very basic but reliable
Can u explain me whats the channel 16 about?
Great video, what walkie talkie do you suggest for in NYC with alot of buildings around with like a 20 mile distance?
Great video you gave a lot of info about these radios for the price you can't beat them I remember I did a test with a pair of Midland GTX the 36 Mi on 50 Channel basic black and silver edition on garm frequency performing a similar test liking this video lots of tall trees houses ground elevating and D elevating at certain spots I was able to achieve 1.7 miles Bond on average there 25 to $50 more to be fair
I will have to give them a look. Thanks for the comment
Concise review!
Thank you for the kind comment. If there are any suggestions for products you want to see feel free to leave them here in the comment section.
Dry weather and wet weather impact over the reception of the radio I’m I correct sir
@@paparaotango9345 you are correct. Almost any atmospheric conditions will affect reception and transmission.
@@unclebillscamping sir I have seen F2 B7 set in india
Outside of City and NA-771 high gain antina use the maxcimum talking range km from set to set
shoidul islam how much of a range boost did the antenna provide?
@@unclebillscamping I will update this comment when they arrive but I've purchased that set up the bf-888s and na 771 antennas if I had to take a guess obviously if you hit a repeater channel from an antenna anywheres from 50 to 100 miles but radio to radio I would probably say the 1-mile distance would be a little bit staticky but more consistent
You would have done better even with that antenna if you were outside of the vehicle, but not bad for a pair of radios that are under 30 bucks.
Yea I agree. I have been trying to do better with my reviews and have learned a lot from my viewers. I think I may revisit this test and try to to an in vehicle and out of vehicle test along with showing the tidradio programmer.
4:22 you should get out of the truck and reach the high point.
Is the BF 777s a good radio what the range on it
I have with Nagoya antenna and V2 version 2 radio set.
what kind of radio would you recommend for use in heavily forested areas where the comms range would be 3 miles-ish and in a compact handheld format?
What kind of antenna could I use to do about 5 miles in the city?
I also want to know!
Not bad considering the check was done with one radio inside a car
I plan on revisiting these radios with a better testing environment soon
In the uk, I get half mile are towns are more dense than your so called city lol, that's why I switched to bofang UV 5rd I get a bike now ul get 3 miles easy
Sir how to get vox on this bf888,,
Do anyone know how to program vhf frequencies on the baofeng 888s
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It is better in sound and long distance 88E/888S
If I can use the antina NA-771 than talking range kilomitar from set to set
I use that antenna on my baofeng uv-5r
What channel did you use for the testing?
+Tyler Heiser all testing was performed on channel 1
the only way to good signal is a good antenna and you to go outside the car to get good signal but nice video
I have a question how police identify somone using walkie talkie without license and how they track the walkie talkie location?
I believe its through signal triangulation but some of the more experienced elmers can explain it better.
What about buildings like in downtown Los Angeles
For city work, its best to use the 70cm band, but then again you need to be licensed to use that. But dont expect much range. And yes I am a licensed Ham radio operator.
@@longrider42 why 70cm band?
@@santiago101100 Shorter and denser wave length to start with, so it penetrates buildings better.
How to range inside to city minimum km?
How to connect baofeng 888s to fm channel
Without any kjnd of programming, can this walkie talkie work with any other walkie talkies?
Daniel Reeves if they are in the same frequency yes.
Most likely not. They are usually not programmed to the standard walkie frequencies like the Motorola tlkr series
You can program them to the CB frequencies using chirp
a mile is 1.6km for anyone else whose wondering
Thank you for that👍
How can i extend distance in 888s
You could upgrade the antenna. That would be the first thing i would do. And as people have pointed out to me in the comment section make sure to not be in an enclosed area and hold the radio straight up.
Do I need a license to use this walkie talkie radio in the city
Christian Olivares its a strange situation with these radios. I would say yes you should have a licence to operate these radios but at the same time these radios do not comply with fcc rules as i understand it so its kind of a use at your own risk situation. I believe the newer models are part 90 but it still falls in a gray area. I woud use these in a emergency situation only or in remote locations where you are not running the chance of interfering with commercial operators like hospitals and security firms.
Get out the car and try again, makes a big difference
I get confused in programming on CHIRP
I think we all do 😎
I got just over 2 km in hilly terrain
Need a decent antenna
I agree, a small investment with a better antenna would go a long way but still not bad for the price.
I get the same wit my fisher price walkie talkies.. 1mile is very weak!! U get wat u pay for!!
Cool
Thanks
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If you were out of your car, would probably work better
Mine went 1.5 miles
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Thank you
You made many errors in your distance test. First of all both parties must hold their radios such that antenna points up, for best range, second, the car eats up most of signal. You should at least turn around and face home. Or best, get out of car. Face home and hold antenna straight up and you'll be amazed at how much more range you get!
Your feedback is very welcome. Thanks to viewers comments like yours In my later radio reviews i have started getting out of the vehicle and making sure my antenna is pointing up. I may revisit these radios and perform another test using the advise given. Thanks you
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What was the power setting?