BaoFeng Antenna Side By Side Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2018
- There are so many antennas to chose from out there, how do you know which ones are good? Today I sample five, plus the rubber ducky and try to give you a good recommendation.
Wining antenna the Nagoya 771: amzn.to/2Yf1zwo
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You know what this is missing? A spreadsheet comparison of the results at the end. Food for thought.
This is a great idea ... then we'd have no trouble finding these various antennas ...
everybody has their personal preference. I personally, would prefer using a smaller antenna vs taking my fly rod with me and looking like I'm going "fishing" with an antenna that drags birds out of the sky when I use my handheld.
I appreciate your video showing this comparison. I was glad to see that the choice I made on my antenna purchase form my Baofeng BF-F8HP was spot on for performance.
You make great videos. I have the 771 and I like its range. The fit up to the BF*-HP at least made me modify a small washer to help stabilize the base and make definite positive contact. I even used a small FINE file to lower part of the shield on the radio. Yes that is the sign of low quality, but I do not mind spending the time tweaking my portable, that is so tiny and light. Thanks for helping out others.
Interesting video I have a small collection of antennas and have picked up some positive tips from you, thanks for sharing
Thanks, for this antenna video. I just purchased my first radio yesterday. The Baofeng BF-F8+ and I'm studying for the technician license in two weeks.
Cory R. Have they changed or updated the test? It seems like it was about time for that soon.
I believe the test will be changing in June.
how bff8+ is different frm uv5r?
Cory, good luck with taking your
first test for technician level.
Hopefully by now you've taken
and passed. Good luck as you
take & pass the other levels.
Be sure to visit your local ham
radio fests. Every year in May is the largest show 3-day event "Hamvention"™ located now in Xenia, OH at the fairgrounds.
This is provided by "DARA" = the "Dayton Amateur Radio Association".
There is free testing for all levels,
interesting informative and educational seminars, vendors from all over, a flea market area, and is attended by people from all over the world. Hopefully you can attend "Hamvention"™ at least once in your lifetime.
@@mohammadomariqbal Good question.
I've been using the expert power 7 and 14 inch antennas since I bought my radios in 2013. I've never had a problem with them and they work great. One of them even survived my 100 pound Rottweiler eating the radio. I still use the antenna even though the rubber is munched a bit.
I really appriciate all the work that went into this... thanks dude!
4:18 "Not an ideal situation." I respectfully disagree. Where you tested IS an "ideal" situation for the average user surfing RUclips looking for some information. None of us here are going to be operating in laboratories, most of us will be around neighborhoods with houses and such.
A boefeng with a good whip is no match for a abandon airforce base
I use my radios when I am hunting with a few buddies, and I only have to deal with trees and distance. No houses.
you're confusing ideal with average
Agreed, if not a building or two even.
A car acts as a faraday cage and kills the signal.
Love it man, thanks for the channel and vids like this. Still looking forward to a review of the Signal stick if you get one. 73.
Thanks for this. I've had a MJ long on my list for a while. The longest antenna you have is comparable and $10 cheaper. I just ordered it!
Good video's & relevant topic. Two things to consider: 1. Antennas and/or radio could be mismatched. => The best antenna for your radio might not be the best for another. 2. Using a radio inside a vehicle will cause interference => Moving the antenna just a tiny bit could change the directivity/beamform significantly.
Reminds me of the question from the exam pool:
T9A07 (A)
What is a disadvantage of using a handheld VHF transceiver with a flexible antenna inside a vehicle?
A. Signal strength is reduced due to the shielding effect of the vehicle
B. The bandwidth of the antenna will decrease, increasing SWR
C. The SWR might decrease, decreasing the signal strength
D. All these choices are correct
Thanks for posting. Unknowingly, I ordered your Nogoya 771 already. We have 4 dozen radios in the box to set up .... 3-4 different MFG's and bandwidths.
Thank so much. Lots of good information in here. I've got the Nagoya NA 771 R on UV 82L.
I've just ordered a na 771 looking forward to trying it out 🙂 Thanks for all your great work 👌🏻
WIth simplex communication using BaoFeng UV-5R on 154.95, The stock antenna preforms better in every condition than the NA-771.
Me and my buddy are 1.5 miles apart in the suburbs.
(Im new to this, any idea why the 771 is worse for me?)
I appreciate the content...... still surfing all your videos. Found ya through Glover. Keep up good work
Cool test, thanks for sharing! You should do this test again with different homemade antennas!
I think this video was very true to the type of area I use mine in. Thank You very much !
This was really, really helpful!!! Saved me some failures in the field for sure!
this kind of test that needed by everyone. real use/life test!!
For those who say he should be outside the car and paying attention to polarity, he is trying for worse case scenario
Thank you! 👌
yes
@@HamRadioCrashCourse what is polarity? Hold the unit straight up and down for best signal?
@@dhall5634 i think holding the antenna horizontal or vertical makes a difference :D
@@dhall5634 its the way you hold the radio either vertical or horizontal
Nice test. I would have liked to have seen you turn the power down on the radio during the test (similar to driving further away). I did a similar test years ago testing whether or not adding a counterpoise to the antenna did anything. And was shocked to find that it made a huge difference.
Thanks Josh I just ordered 1 from your link. Now to find a cable on one of your other vids!
I use some Anytone radios for my EMS squad, since the AT-3318 series can do 2-tone paging. They're a lot cheaper than the Kenwoods and work about as well (or as poorly, depending on your point of view). I never realized how badly the stock antennas function. I just ordered a 701C (8" commercial/public safety band) to see if I can reach the dispatch center any better. Thanks for a real-world comparison. 73
Good video! Thank you!
Too add to your data... I use the Nagoya NA-320A tri-bander (2M/1.25M/40cm) with my Btech 5x3. At almost 18 inches it is a monster, but the performance is really nice (and you don't have to swap antennas out... Btech ships 2 144/440 & a separate 220)
Keep up the good work!
73s
-Rob
I use one of my UV5R's as a monitor. I got an adapter and have it hooked up to a slim-jim that is hanging from the ceiling in my shack. That way I don't have to worry as much about lightening! I have used it to make our ham net when it is storming. In addition, as a monitor it does not draw as much power as a mobile or base rig.
Thanks for the work man.... helps us out in the HAM community
i have the Nagoya 771 on my BaoFeng and it works great! I do not care that it is longer! It works much better!
Wow what a MVP you are for putting the winner in the description
I love these real world testing, we will never be in perfect conditions so yeah...... ty for your work!!
Awesome comparison brother! Thank you
With stock antennas I’m able to hear my brothers baofeng at 5 miles away at about 600’ lower elevation with a mtn ridge between us. He can’t hear me unless I walk up the hill a bit. With the 15.5” laiton we can’t hear each other perfectly.. the longest straight shot range test that we’ve done was at 12 miles with rubber duck antennas with 100% success. I didn’t have the other antennas at that time but I’m looking forward to more simplexing! :)
I just purchased two Baofeng Gt-3wp radios. I installed the Nagoya antennas on them hoping for greater communication range and at 80 ft I was barely able to receive and communicate. I reinstalled the manufactured rubber duckies that came with my radios and got a 2 mile range! I'm sending the Nogoyas back and trying another set of them on my radios.
Great video, I see some people can't get a hold of what a comparitve test is . Testing in a vehicle is a good way to see how they compare in normal vehicle use. I find 90% of the antennas on handie talkies have an swr greater than 3:1 so that being the case the low power out is even much lower yet . And yes to some replies you can talk further outside car, same talking out from a small plane at 10000 feet but we normally talk when driving the easiest way we can.
Yes! You got it :D
Happy New Year greetings from Reno, Nevada.
Please test the NA-24J (UHF / VHF Ultra Light Whip 16.2" High Gain Antenna) against the NA-771. The NA-24J solves the excess mass issue that knocks the radio over. Plus for hiking it does save about a 1/4 lb of weight.
Thanks for warning me about the stubby antenna. I questioned them, and you answered. I just acquired a 147-160 Mhz antenna. It's thicker than the stock antenna. I hope to see how well it does on VHF. Right now I can only receive because I'm unlicensed, but that will change.
I usually have a NA717 on for day to day use. But I also have a NA771 that I just switch out for when needed. The 771 can get a bit unwieldy so I don’t have it on unless I have to. But it’s good to have it.
I bought the expert power 7.5 after seeing this. I like it so far, it works well and it helps with the top heavy affect that my abbree had
Very Nice job on the basic antenna video. Real world tests mean more to me than perfect condition lab tests.
Awesome. Simple, direct.
Thanks bud
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your info. keep up the good work. cheers from Australia
Thanks for watching!
I've tryed a bunch of different antennas and my favorite is the 8" abbree whip. it performs almost as good as the long antennas but so much more convenient. Just seems to do slightly better on vhf than uhf. abbree 18" folding antenna is really great but bulky i use that for scanning at home. 15.5 abbree is almost as good as the 18"
Awesome comparison!!! Love my NA771 on my F8HP, it's a beast :)
Same for me on my UV-5R.
very good information, this helps a lot, in the end, the length of the antenna didn't matter. Thanks your video explained it all
The length of the antenna does mater with regards to TX and RX. I didn't saw otherwise in the video.
Cool little compara, got the Nagoya 771 already, so as this video confirms my previous purchase, I have to fully endorse it ;) . However that purchase was based off your previous recommendation, so there’s that. Pitty on the stubby not working, those things look cool.
Look very cool, but the math works out that is should perform horribly. Glad the 771 is working for you!
Great video, great test" which is the best handheld antenna sorted.
:Ohj look at this, new antenna?" Glad I am not the only one who notices antennas.
I love my xpert power antenna. I use a UV-5R with an extended battery and can work a repeater 70.4 miles away and they say that I come in at about a 3-5 depending on where I’m standing in the driveway. I’m down in a hole where I usually work it with trees surrounding but it’s a very big repeater with over 700 people on it daily so that may be giving more props to the repeater than the antenna but I think it works wonders
Thanks for the video! I had some of the others but did order a Expert Power antenna for $9.50 Amazon Prime
Brian Robinson a product coming out of China names “pro” or “expert”!should be a dead give away that is not a great product
Great test. I just bought one through your Amazon page. I wish there was a stubby that performed reasonably well.
The way antennas work, its just not in the cards for 2m. 70cm will perform a bit better, but not by much.
If you like the 717 (or the 666) you could try the Nagoya 24J, which I've found to be better than all the others. Also the ABBREE tactical one is a nice antenna, but way bulkier.
Thank you for this!!! Just ordered one.
Add that abbree antenna on that bad boy and run the same test.
A genuine NA 771 is a great antenna for most of the baofeng models. It's Deffo hefty but I can hit the repeaters about 1.2 miles from my home. Whilst inside. Out side easily 5+ miles and hits the repeater. It likes more of a complete vertical position though. So if it's leaning it will degrade the reach. Also if using one as a Base setup. Grounding the Base of the antenna greatly improves reception and transmission when not holding it.
I like the Black powder 1851 patch you have on the head liner
Not sure if you've acquired a Radioddity HT at any point, but just received both of my GD-77 and seems to be a sturdy DMR radio for the money! Paid $87 each and is Tier II which is an awesome price point!
Glad to see I picked the right one!
This is a great video and really informative. But I'm wondering how the Nagoya 771 compares to the new Abbree antennas (I have a one-meter one) in an outdoor test just like this one. I saw your other video about the Abbree, but all it shows is metered strength in basically "lab" conditions. Could you run the exact same test with the 771 vs. the longest Abbree antenna with a UV-5R?
Yes I was hoping the abbree was in this test as well.
I have a UV-82, and the Nagoya 771 is amazing. I got it after watching your video. Thank you!
I don't know I think it's a perfect experiment because what else are we going to be doing with it Good job man
Excelente video mi hermano, saludos desde Colombia!!! 🙏✌️✌️✌️✌️
Great comparison and informative video, thanks...
Thank you!
I did similar tests about 8 or 9 years ago. We (another operator listening) were going through a repeater located on a 6 floor building. I drove down the highway and tested every few miles. Passing was good quality voice with full quieting. Noise in the voice was a fail. I didn't have the little stubby, but did test the stock UV-5R antenna, the Expert Power, Nagoya NA-701, and Nagoya NA-771. The stock UV-5R, no surprise here, was the worst one. The NA-701 and Expert Power tied with several more miles down the road. The best was the NA-771. Actual usage, if you clipped the radio to your belt with a NA-771 and looked down at your radio you ran a risk of poking your eye out. I gave that one away. The NA-701 and Expert Power were pretty much tied. At that time the Expert Power did not have a name, we just called it the "NoName". It was cheaper than the Nagoya NA-701, so I actually bought several and still use them.
Great video! Great comparison!
i used to use a stubby at work, i programmed my 8hp to work with the radios at work , i used the stubby to restrict my tx range
have the common 3 types and a rat tail .. options
you say this wasnt very ideal. i think it was a perfect example, cause in real life you will have all the structures and obstacles getting in the way of the signal so this really shows the performance of the different antennas..was this guy also going line of sight or was he using a repeater?
All line of sight.
Any 19" thin whippy antenna msy work great when you are not moving, but if it whips around at all, the signal also whips in and out like crazy. Use it while you are in motion, and it no longer sounds like a champ.
True. Whips on mobile can be awkward.
Great video,,, as usual. I'm glad I made the Expertpower decision 3 yrs ago....you confirmed my research.
Great test, out of morbid curiosity, have you done SWR tests on all of the antennas?
I did! I’ll be working through that data on the next Live stream.
I picked up a Nagoya NA-24J and a ExpertPower XP-669C through the storefront.
Happy to support. Thanks for the awesome content
I read somewhere that if you hook a foot long or so wire to one of the belt clip screws using an eyelet and let it hang down that it will get you better reception.
Well, it' not just line of sight, strong electromagnetic fields (like in high voltage electric grid) also interfere with the signal, so that can also offset your results. I went for a car magnetic external antenna (ut-106 uv) to get better reception myself but i bought that big cahoona antenna you tested for my father to use.
Uv82 is my go to. Love it. Undestructable
You can reverse the destructions?
I have a Luiton NA-771 its a big boy but it seems to be way better than the stock
WIth simplex communication using BaoFeng UV-5R on 154.95, The stock antenna preforms better in every condition than the NA-771.
Me and my buddy are 1.5 miles apart in the suburbs.
(Im new to this, any idea why the 771 is worse for me?)
Thanks for the info! 👍
Gracias por tu vídeo me aclaro muchas cosas !!
Did you test any of these antennas for SWR on the frequencies you used? I like the comparison, and how you describe physical features of the land, distance, and frequency.
You my Friend are AWESOME.....Thank You
Problem I have with better antennas on the 5R is I think it picks up other signals on nearby frequencies which deafens the front end. At least that is my assumption, the better the antenna the more weird receive issues I have.
Probably mentioned in a past post, but that is an SMA, not a BNC antenna connector. Very useful test. Thanks! AE6GX
Brilliant film, thanks!!
May I also point out that discounting the short "stubby" antenna was a bit (shall I say it) short-sighted. First, you were testing on 146MHz where that particular antenna is at it's worst. Had you been in the 70cm band at around 446.000 I believe you would have seen much better results. I use BF-888s radios for low power short range work between the wife and I (she's a Tech, I'm an Extra) and those radios with the exact Diamont SRH805S antennas work great for their purpose. In fact, I can hit and hold a 70cm repeater using the BF-888 and the SRH805S from easily 10-12 miles away.
exactly .. thats plenty of range , and the little radios do good on power output
Hi, I was wondering if you can physically tell apart the uv 5r stock antenna from the bf f8hp antenna. I have two of these radios and can tell them apart. I understand that the bf f8hp has better specs but I can't honestly see any difference and I think I "mixed" them. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Got two miles down the road from my house the other day with a AR805S. Then went 2.5 miles with my AR771. It was choppy but both were able to transmit and receive audibly
Not sure how others do, but my 771 picked up a satellite ham repeater. It was my first & only alternative antenna purchase.
Hold it sideways and it'll work.
Interestingly I have found some of the so called dual band antennas for the BF are actually much better on one band than another, oftentimes they are better on 70cm than 2m
My husband has the NA-771 on his and he listens in on communications from other towns that are almost 200 miles away from us.
Thank you for the video. I purchased a 771 and an Aubbree for my uv5r. They were both outperformed by the rubber ducky. My local repeaters wouldn't break squelch and neither would the WX channels. Do you have any thoughts on why? The ducky picks up the repeaters and WX just fine.
I bought this a couple hours ago without watching this, guess I made the right choice.
So based on the follow-up test where you compare output power to the "TactiCool"ABBREE, do you still think the Nagoya NA-771 (AKA BigKahuna) is better than the ExpertPower? I did notice in this video during the 1-mile test the 771 was sticking out of your window and not in the same postition as the Experpower, but in the 3/4-mile test, they were in a relatively same position. Thoughts??
BTW - I do think this was a well-done comparison of a potentially real-world scenario. So kudos for that and the effort you put into it!
I actually like a short antenna like the diamond..... and recommendations on a short stubby antenna that is out now?
I just picked up a UV5R and, having also picked up NA-701 and NA-771 antennae, am finding that the stock "rubber ducky" seems to receive better than the other two. I've only tested them on my local NOAA channel, but shouldn't the larger antennae help with reception? Or do they really only improve transmission? I'm only using the radio as a receiver, and something to have around in case of emergencies.
Was a pretty good real-world test. If you were working a public service event say, it would be helpful to know if the antenna you are going to use would do the job or not, Of them a lot of hams will get themselves a handheld mic, clip the radio on their belt, then wonder why they can't talk to anyone.
I have been watching your videos and am learning a bunch. Thank you for making such good videos!! I have a question. I bought one of the Nagoya 15.6 inch whip antennas. Had it about a week and shut the tip top part of the antenna in the car door. Broken right off. I cant find the broken part. The antenna functions just fine. Is it safe to keep using it?
Probably a good idea not to touch the tip when transmitting. But it should be fine.
Nice info. How about switching the test by changing up the receive antennas. FWIW, I was testing a MURS-V1 (UV-82) and when I went from the stock antenna to a NA-701C, the receive became more deaf.
HTs are extremely limited in simplex.
However, if one is stationary, a vhf yagi is not unreasonable.
One can even be made easily.
Far better transmission and reception.
I have the 771, I can hit a repeater 35 miles away on 5 watts with my uv
i can hit a repeater 43 miles away with stock rubber duck antenna uv-5r
@@dylanlockler1039 SOUNDS LIKE A DUCK STORY TO ME.
@@ctsteve1967 well it is on top of a huge mountain...
See it all depends on conditions, I believe all of them if you have a good line of sight with the repeater..
i think the repeater is line of sight i cant really see it though
Thank you for this content
Jsut a comment why the antenna workd well when folded in Higher frequencies..... the wave lengths are shorter in UHF, thus, shorter antenna becomes more efficient.
The tape antennas are very durable, and can last a very long time, but one should never force a tight bend as it will result in a fold in the tape curve and then the antenna is floppy.
I have the UV-5RX3 with the Nagoya NA-320A 17.7" triband antenna. I've already reached a little over a mile with good copy. I bet it could easily reach over 2 under ideal conditions. Have you tried that one? Nagoya makes good stuff.