Why BDSP Is The Most HATED Pokémon Game

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  • Why BDSP Is The Most HATED Pokémon Game! Why Pokemon BDSP Failed As a Remake. How come Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl were so BAD? Were they the worst Pokemon games?
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  • @TKDPandaa
    @TKDPandaa  Год назад +132

    What do you think of Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl?
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    • @kathyagada505
      @kathyagada505 Год назад +10

      its honestly based

    • @KSD-2526
      @KSD-2526 Год назад +16

      I likes them ngl. Platinum was my first game and even with the content drops I still liked them. Battle frontier being dropped sucks but battle tower is still fun. Underground does help the dex variety and the difficulty being inconsistent is technically a bad thing but I enjoyed the challenge.
      On the topic of platinum’s story line, that was never going to return. They are Diamond and pearl remakes and as a result I’d say their responsibility was to improve dp. In that regard they kinda succeeded, minus Pokémon variety.
      Overall I’d say Bdsp is not as terrible as everyone says. Is it the best, no, but it is certainly not the worst and is not bad.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +13

      @@KSD-2526i agree, they don’t deserve this much hate but i still had fun playing them

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +5

      @@kathyagada505based

    • @heyguysxd
      @heyguysxd Год назад +8

      These games are literally just the ds ones with minimal improvements and cut Platinum content.

  • @AD-tj4jc
    @AD-tj4jc Год назад +3256

    I think Legends Arceus was the game Gamfreak actually wanted to make, while BDSP was the side project they pawned off to a third party studio.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +339

      that is a good way to put it. they hyped up legends arceus so much more than BDSP it makes me sad

    • @mooganify
      @mooganify Год назад +117

      Isn’t that exactly what happened

    • @brendanboomhour7606
      @brendanboomhour7606 Год назад +95

      ​​@@mooganifypretty much, remakes that add basically nothing, glad I never bothered buying them, I just played through Platinum again

    • @BananaR777
      @BananaR777 Год назад +50

      No what happen was ILCA developing concets that was more akin to an 3d open sandbox like skyrim and Zelda Breath of Wild for BDSP like what we had in legends but in a mondern sinnoh setting. There probably would of been overworld battle with all the gen 8 mechanics more akin to scarlet and violate unlike the bare bones system in legend. But with Junichi Masuda and other higher ups at GF's and the pokemon company's terrable management & leadership is what lead to the rushed cutcorner version of Diamand& Pearl.
      The cuts were so bad that items were missing, features from the original gutted out like the contest being turn into a dance minigame with the contest pokemon move showoffs like from gen3 being removed, alot secret bases features being cutdown to an art gallery, barely any additions from platinum with no battle frontier, nor any new areas outside of the underground, and finally just a copy and paste of the same story with no changes like Oras had. On top of that PokemonDex Cuts doesnt help it ethier, with almost half the pokedex missing, even region varients were not included.
      BDSP would be no different than that of crappy rom hack of DP that only adds battle system update to gen 8, newer generation moves and lacking later generation pokemon. As well as having crappy scripting were it would break both contest and secret bases.

    • @Blue_XIII
      @Blue_XIII Год назад +24

      ​​​​@@BananaR777thank you. Someone else gets what was happening during bdsp's dev time. I and many waited a long time for gen 4 to be remade and considefing gen 4 was and is my fav gen I have never been so disappointed with TPC/GF as much as I was when the fifst trailer came out and over time my disappointement got worse and now I don't want to buy anymore remakes because fans of gen 4 were robbed and the games will never be remade again. We missed our chance because of TPC. Not ILCA, but the heads of the franchise who get the final say.
      If only Ishihara would step down as ceo and someone of a newer generation would replace him that way they could bring less traditional japanese business practices which can screw things up for the company because the ones on top are always right and can never be wrong or corrected, while those who work for them are nothing, but subservient

  • @vianabdullah2837
    @vianabdullah2837 Год назад +1344

    The controversy is essentially that they just remastered Diamond and Pearl, basically the same game with minimal changes and new assets. Rather than the more thorough remakes the previous games had, where there were a lot more substantial changes from the original games.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +140

      Yes thats basically it. For how much this game was anticipated they did not deliver and it showed :(

    • @SajimSalkic
      @SajimSalkic Год назад +25

      Then why did People hate let's go? They made so many great changes in those games and the new catch System was so fun. I'm also glad the original 151 (+Meltan and Melmetal) were the only avaliable pokemon.

    • @termitesc.aardwolf3644
      @termitesc.aardwolf3644 Год назад +96

      @@SajimSalkic The catch system is a pain if you wanna grind up a team of Pokemon without having to fill boxes. While I'm down with a Kanto remake with Fairy types and stuff, I still want the option to battle wild Pokemon if I so wish.

    • @BrokenSoulConfession
      @BrokenSoulConfession Год назад +18

      I'd argue that's where PLA came in. PLA is the Platinum remake for BDSP.

    • @BrokenSoulConfession
      @BrokenSoulConfession Год назад

      ​@@SajimSalkicBecause it's catered to grab Pokémon GO players' interest. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Wobuffet3
    @Wobuffet3 Год назад +1792

    To add insult to injury, these games aren't even remakes, they're remasters. They ported the source code to Unity, gave it new graphics and music, and called it a day. It still checks for GBA games in the bottom slot whenever you go to Ramanas Park, and people have found new glitches in the original games from examining this game's code.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +260

      i actually didnt know these werent even remakes so being remasters it made me sad

    • @Wobuffet3
      @Wobuffet3 Год назад +221

      @@TKDPandaa Mhm. Just fancy ports. Anyone who calls them remakes fell for the marketing scams

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 11 месяцев назад +37

      👍 Thanks, and very Good to know. I mean yea, BDSP marked a _real low_ for the Franchise I love. But I'm forgiving and thankfully the massive improvements in Legends Arceus and then SV and the extremely strong sales for both those games will prevent them from ever dipping back into Cheap Ch!bi hell again lol. Hopefully. 🤞

    • @N12015
      @N12015 11 месяцев назад +25

      ​​​@@TKDPandaaIs kinda like a hybrid, which depending on how good the original game was it's a good or bad thing. Diamond and Pearl are not good to begin with so when you have something arguably worse...

    • @Wobuffet3
      @Wobuffet3 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@N12015 I'd say they're better than the originals, even if the soul is completely gone. But you're still better off just playing Platinum, especially if it's a modded rom that makes it run in 60 fps.

  • @edray_utopia
    @edray_utopia 10 месяцев назад +105

    The ONLY reason I enjoyed BDSP is because I never played diamond or pearl... If I did, I'd be livid: it's just because BDSP was a carbon copy of diamond and pearl.

    • @jimmymackinnon8474
      @jimmymackinnon8474 26 дней назад +11

      It’s worse than the originals. The affection mechanic and forced exp share completely break the game. The only substantial improvement was the Sinnoh underground. FRLG, HGSS and ORAS were all much better than the original games. I was disappointed by BDSP

    • @jab9799
      @jab9799 10 дней назад +2

      @@jimmymackinnon8474 i'd still say this Undergorund was worse cause Secret bases were removed. Other than that contests sucked, and no platinum content or Delta epsisode like post game. Was literally just Diamond and Pearl done worse

    • @princeofpokemon2934
      @princeofpokemon2934 10 дней назад +2

      I never played either of those original games and I for one actually enjoyed playing them. Especially when you get to have one of your Pokemon walk alongside you or customize your pokeballs. I don't care if you guys start hating me for this but I stand by my decision. I still like the game

    • @jab9799
      @jab9799 10 дней назад +1

      @@princeofpokemon2934 I mean to each their own, I'd understand if it was first time then I see how you can enjoy. Just only really applies if people played the OGs first

    • @bitzgames
      @bitzgames 6 дней назад

      It seems that the reasons most people have for not liking BDSP lean heavily on the petty side. I was very unhappy with ORAS because I was very attached to Emerald as it was my first Pokemon adventure, and ORAS changed too much of it. I was cheated out of being able to play platinum when it came out because my mom accidentally bought a shoddy bootleg on Amazon by mistake and after I got to Jubilife the game crashed and then every time I forced it into my DS (The cartridge had a huge bulge which, when opened, revealed a large chunk of what looked like tar) it would crash the system menu running the risk of bricking it.
      I never got to experience Gen 4 and I believe all the changes made to diamond and pearl are positive ones. The graphics are not bad at all, when they said they were making faithful remakes, they meant it. People just hate on these games because they wanted them to play like Sword and Shield, yknow, modern. But as someone who grew up on Emerald, who was cheated out of Platinum, and didn't like ORAS all that much, I enjoyed my time with these remakes, and now I'm doing a second playthrough in 2024 and still enjoying myself. BDSP isn't bad, you're all just mean.

  • @Void-xir
    @Void-xir 7 месяцев назад +150

    “The next remakes will be black and white”
    Legends Z: “Allow me to introduce myself”

    • @raymanthelegend8820
      @raymanthelegend8820 7 месяцев назад +8

      they just skipped over an entire region lol

    • @koiyune
      @koiyune 7 месяцев назад +6

      black and white 2. they exist.

    • @lakus6688
      @lakus6688 7 месяцев назад +29

      Legends z isn't a remake, it's its own game.

    • @Void-xir
      @Void-xir 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@lakus6688 True. Although, some call Legends Arkoos a remake

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami 6 месяцев назад +16

      @@Void-xirnobody sees Legends Arceus as a remake. It's a totally different setting with a different plot and different characters.

  • @darthmaul5413
    @darthmaul5413 Год назад +398

    the Platinum outfit is the most insult thing a constant reminder of failure and we most likely wont get a pokemon platinum remake

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +45

      so sad fr, was platinum your favorite game

    • @darthmaul5413
      @darthmaul5413 Год назад +26

      ​@@TKDPandaa i started with diamond and pearl 2007-2008 (old guard) 1-2 years Pokémon Platinum came out and even i admit Platinum outgunned diamond and pearl so hard it made it obsolete i rank diamond and pearl 2007 higher than bdsp by virtue of Platinum not existing and your force to embrace the dark arts for younger people than me (new guard)

    • @darthmaul5413
      @darthmaul5413 Год назад +2

      @@TKDPandaa and how are they going to explain how in black and white 1 Looker and Cynthia That was beyond my expectation! What an exceptional battle! You certainly bear a resemblance to that Trainer who faced Giratina... Oh, pardon me. I was just thinking out loud. I love being here in spring and summer. I can't stay all year, because there's so much to investigate in Sinnoh, as well. You're a great Trainer, and it would make me happy to see you again sometime Cynthia Undella Town bw1

    • @TetrisPhantom
      @TetrisPhantom 9 месяцев назад +2

      Most frustrating thing about the Pt outfit is that it was a limited event and you lose it forever if you restart your save.

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 8 месяцев назад +3

      @Bludbenis You’re right Sucks but Johto is next AGAIN ugh. Since gen 7 they’re now going to remake the third sister games, so first Yellow and now Crystal and next games after will be gen 10 and finally Unova remakes, however before gen 6 remakes we’ll get new Hoenn re-remakes based on Emerald.

  • @yungmuney5903
    @yungmuney5903 Год назад +273

    I haven't played the game but just by looking at it alone it REALLY comes across as a game that said "Shut up about sinnoh remakes" and nothing more.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +19

      if thats true then thats funny, but what i said in the vide about legends arceus overpowering BDSP then it makes sense

    • @richardv5942
      @richardv5942 7 месяцев назад +2

      No, this is BS, an example of why you should never lisent to nobody on RUclips. The games are the same as the originals. Talking shit generates more views.

    • @hollowfox213
      @hollowfox213 7 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@richardv5942That’s right, they are the same games. The same games that released in 2006, now released in 2021 and $20 more expensive. They even come with the same bugs and lack the extra content added by their third release game. How generous of the multimillion dollar company.

    • @jbpugs
      @jbpugs 7 месяцев назад +18

      @@richardv5942the original D&P were just as bland. all of the bugs & glitches in bdsp were in D&P too. people accepted it when it was on the DS because of the limitations of the hardware, and because most of the people who were playing the games (who are talking about it now) were under the age of 13 and weren't already exposed to as much of the same game formula for decades at that point yet. There's a reason why there was a substantial change in both story & gameplay in Platinum (i.e; reverse world, battle frontier, etc).

  • @Blue_XIII
    @Blue_XIII Год назад +361

    4 words. Blame The Pokemon Company. They were responsible for the game being rushed. Originally ILCA wanted to have an open worldish overworld among other stuff according to their proof of concept of the games, but despite not working on them directly, Masuda had to tell the devs to rush it.
    The proof of ILCA is not being as incompetent as people think is them working on games like Ace Combat 7, Neir Automata, and One Piece Odyssey Adventure. They have a pretty solid repertoire of games so even if they only supposedly contributed to a small part of those games I stated above, they weren't just some new or small dev who got handed it just to get it over with

    • @SandsUnderthetable
      @SandsUnderthetable 7 месяцев назад +1

      100th like

    • @kerjectroter3761
      @kerjectroter3761 7 месяцев назад +10

      That's 104 words if I counted correctly.

    • @SandsUnderthetable
      @SandsUnderthetable 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@kerjectroter3761 should’ve put that in quotations 💀

    • @linguicaguy
      @linguicaguy 6 месяцев назад +4

      Gonna need a source on that, because the only info I saw was internal concept art that was prefaced with the phrase "The images were drawn to share common understandings of the settings' mood, climate, and luminosity amongst the development team." That doesn't tell us anything about ILCA's approach to the game's design. Only vague aspects of the setting.

    • @Blue_XIII
      @Blue_XIII 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@linguicaguy okay so my take on the whole "open world-ish" concept was me being stupid and not knowing how to exactly describe the concepts at the time so I apologize for that, but whether the art was just a concept to get everyone to understand the mood and such or not, the fact that the final outcome was less than what the concept was drawn to look like shows that either ILCA backtracked on the idea or they were told by someone at TPC that they had to hurry it up. The latter is more believable considering how we know about GF's schedule.

  • @JamSandwich150
    @JamSandwich150 11 месяцев назад +114

    One of the most scummiest things bdsp did was releasing the physical versions on cheaper cartridges, and forcing the players to download the rest of the game in a "day one patch", this day one patch is required for the entire post game to become available as well as the official music and not placeholder music. so whenever the switch's online connectivity dies it will literally be impossible to experience 50% of the game's total file size if not downloaded prior

    • @l4lo678
      @l4lo678 11 месяцев назад +19

      man…nintendo is just so greedy it makes me so happy seeing people pirate their stuff.

    • @itzl2124
      @itzl2124 11 месяцев назад +6

      is that true? that’s actually crazy

    • @MasterJongXG
      @MasterJongXG 11 месяцев назад +16

      And people called me crazy saying that DLC and one day patch are scummy as fuck when the onlinr service gets shut down.
      Now we see how everyone panics about the 3DS and WiiU.

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 6 месяцев назад +4

      It's also impossible if you can't connect your Switch to the internet. And considering how utterly convoluted and stupid the Switch's online connectivity is, a lot of players outside of big cities can't do that!

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami 6 месяцев назад

      So fcking trashy. And they wonder why people just use roms.

  • @nitro5247
    @nitro5247 10 месяцев назад +107

    Luminescent Platinum, the rom hack you mentioned, is the saving grace of these games. I’m in the project’s discord server and they’ve seriously gone and taken these lackluster cashgrabs of games and turned them into genuine labors of love.

    • @utvm6748
      @utvm6748 3 месяца назад +2

      Just the language barrier cause im used to german moves names and i would get confused in english

    • @ninjapoundcake
      @ninjapoundcake 3 месяца назад

      How is a fan hack a saving grace? It's not in stores nor is it an update being released online.
      Fan hack don't save bad games.

    • @giganticmoon
      @giganticmoon 2 месяца назад +6

      @@ninjapoundcakeIt’s a saving grace because it makes the game better. Also…rom hacks DO save games, even if not official.

    • @littlered6340
      @littlered6340 16 дней назад

      ​@@utvm6748I started playing in Japanese and I feel like I'm at such a disadvantage with Pokémon names and move names 😭
      Some items are obvious, きずくずり or モンスターボール but I didn't realise how much not knowing move or Pokémon names puts me st a disadvantage

    • @CarnerioTostado
      @CarnerioTostado 7 дней назад

      ​@@utvm6748there's a downloadable german translation

  • @Max-qw8eq
    @Max-qw8eq Год назад +346

    It’s sad because there was so much hype for gen 4 remakes. Gen 4 games were my personal favourites so I was super excited for the remakes but man, bdsp was a huge disappointment for me and to this day I’m still sad about it :(

    • @ayydrean
      @ayydrean 11 месяцев назад +30

      i feel the exact same way. and it sucks cause after waiting for so long, we ended up with that remake, and now we won't be getting a revisit to gen 4 anytime soon :(

    • @5uper5kill3rz
      @5uper5kill3rz 11 месяцев назад +14

      I'm confused? Surely you want a remake to allow you to relive your childhood authentically, I seem to be the only person in the comments who liked BDSP lol

    • @FullMetalEdits
      @FullMetalEdits 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@5uper5kill3rz i also like it a lot although it may be the nostalgia talking

    • @LordMilenial
      @LordMilenial 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@5uper5kill3rzI also liked it as well. It would be cool to see some new things, but I thought the game was alright and allowed me to relive apart of my childhood. I think if they would remake Platinum or remaster it that would be cool because it would give them another shot to get things “right.” I doubt they’ll do that though. Sometimes I think we just gotta take it for what it is.

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 10 месяцев назад

      Not my fave or even liked generation but Sinnoh being the 4rth loved generation (obviously behind 1-3) it deserved a proper remake.

  • @justarandompurplefox3243
    @justarandompurplefox3243 Год назад +275

    Friendly reminder a significant portion of BDSP’s backend data was copied and pasted from Diamond and Pearl, hence the same glitches being present.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +16

      very interesting i did not know

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 Год назад +3

      Smallant mentioned it.

    • @piranhalettuce
      @piranhalettuce 11 месяцев назад +1

      Except the cute charm giltch sadly

    • @SonodaSymphony
      @SonodaSymphony 9 месяцев назад +20

      That’s so hilarious imagine being that lazy, there was even the void glitch which got patched I think

    • @no_0riginality937
      @no_0riginality937 7 месяцев назад +5

      Bother ain’t no way at this point I don’t even blame Ilca I think TPC and Gamefreak were THAT lazy and cheap.

  • @Slimeonian
    @Slimeonian Год назад +438

    I really wish Bdsp was in the style of Oras. By that I mean, take the gimmick of the generation, and integrate it into the story of the remake. I know swsh says dynamax only occurs in Galar, but in reality dynamax is just Eternatus’ power.
    They could’ve made something up like after the Eternamax incident, Eternatus’ energy spread all over the world, and that’s why there’s Dynamax in Sinnoh. They could’ve even put the raid dens in the underground instead of cramming them into existing routes. As well as actually being in the same style as Swsh too with full character models and all that

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +27

      that would be really cool

    • @kaffka9221
      @kaffka9221 Год назад +36

      Considering Eternamax Eternatus' Shield Entry, there is a Space Time relation to Dynamax, and I really wanted to see how that could interact with Palkia and Dialga. A missed opportunity for GF to not implement that mechanic in BDSP to expand on the Dynamax lore.

    • @BustyNA
      @BustyNA Год назад

      On god fuck dynamaxing that shit is lame as hell.

    • @jaythephoenix
      @jaythephoenix Год назад +8

      Even just have Eternatus's egg contain some residual Dynamax power. As gigantamaxing is a change of form, it could be of interest to Rowan who studies evolution (damn, great time for mega evolution missed too!) Perhaps he was sent some samples of the egg's shell to study, you and the rival get a Dynamax device as well as some E4 and champions embedded with part of it so you can Dynamax outside galar.

    • @santic3072
      @santic3072 11 месяцев назад +8

      ⁠​⁠@@jaythephoenixThat’s what really pisses me off. XY confirmed that Sycamore trained under Rowan to study Pkmn evolution too so theres that connection, they couldve brought back Megas like they did in LGPE.

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 11 месяцев назад +29

    Gen 1 remake: Graphics improved by three generations, two generations of Pokemon added, and Sevi Islands added.
    Gen 2 remake: Up to gen 4 Pokemon, all pokemon fall you, moving sprites, wifi
    Gen 3 remake: 3D, revamped fly mechanic, new post game content, megas
    Gen 4: Especially a 2.5 remake

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 6 месяцев назад

      It's a 2.5 remake with the worst features of both the old and new games, like Mandatory Exp. Share, Affection, and no trading between same-gen games. Diamond and Pearl could at least trade to Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver.

    • @ohmeohmicah
      @ohmeohmicah 6 месяцев назад

      The remakes for gen 1 to 3 are reinterpretations as well. Not only did they give new designs to most if not all of the characters, and of course there's also the major content additions that weren't in the original game (FRLG added Sevii islands, HGSS added.. wtf did it add?? ORAS added megas and established itself as an entirely new timeline)
      BDSP is just a standard remake. Nothing new, just the original but remade from the ground up in 3D.
      The problem with BDSP isn't that it did the bare minimum, in fact it did exactly as advertised. It just didn't meet the expectations of those who expected it to be a reimagining that goes above and beyond like FRLG or ORAS.

  • @thedragonemperor0084
    @thedragonemperor0084 11 месяцев назад +18

    In terms of platinum’s content, I heard ILCA WANTED to include a ton of platinum content and kept getting shot down by Game Freak. They were under strict orders to make a remaster, not a remake. And of Diamond and Pearl, not platinum.
    It was the first time a mainline game was outsourced, so Game Freak didn’t want them taking creative liberties.
    Personally I also see Legends Arceus as the actual gen 4 remake. To me they were probably developing Legends and realized it’s far too different than Diamond and Pearl that it’s not even recognizable as their remake. So the solution was to make a paired release with a faithful remaster.
    That’s what I think happened though myself.

    • @ohmeohmicah
      @ohmeohmicah 6 месяцев назад

      An original game would be Ruby & Sapphire.
      A remaster of the original game would be Emerald. New changes and tweaks.
      A remake of the original game would just be Ruby & Sapphire but in 3D. Nothing else.
      A game that both remakes _and_ remasters the original would be Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire.

  • @Kai21918
    @Kai21918 Год назад +423

    Im kinda scared for black and white remakes because they might bdsp it and i really want thwm to take the legends route

    • @quantasium
      @quantasium Год назад +39

      I think Pokémon SV’s Indigo Disk DLC is setting the scene for Black and White remakes because it’s hinting that Terastallization is possible in Unova. If true, then I doubt they will get the BDSP treatment.

    • @Nephalem2002
      @Nephalem2002 Год назад +29

      Legends route in Unova would be amazing.

    • @hisaceinthehole3426
      @hisaceinthehole3426 11 месяцев назад +27

      The legends route? You mean where they sold a beta of a game at full price?
      LOL _Tooootally! Can't wait for gf to do that again!_

    • @Nephalem2002
      @Nephalem2002 11 месяцев назад +37

      @@hisaceinthehole3426 Uh no that was S/V. Arceus launched just fine.

    • @hisaceinthehole3426
      @hisaceinthehole3426 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@Nephalem2002 no. It didn't.

  • @angelsinthere
    @angelsinthere 11 месяцев назад +144

    Its hated because they just grabbed the original Gen 4 games, put a new coat of paint on them, then resold it at $60 for a game that we already had and added nothing different. When frlg,hgss, and oras expanded the gen by adding new content new form or much needed added lure that helped make certain characters more fleshed out

    • @Mr110074
      @Mr110074 7 месяцев назад

      This should be the top comment.

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian 4 месяца назад +14

      When you say "they just grabbed the original games", that is... probably more accurate than what you meant. Turns out that almost all of the code was just ripped right out of the original Diamond and Pearl. Apparently, one area still tries to check the GBA port, even though the last device to have that was the Nintendo DS Lite.

    • @Seniorsneaky123
      @Seniorsneaky123 3 месяца назад +2

      Mega evolution was way better than all the lame dynamax and crystal-hat stuff.

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Seniorsneaky123 I think they're alright, but not quite as balanced as Mega Evolution was. With Mega Evolution, you had to give up their held item slot for their Mega Stone (except for Rayquaza, for some reason), while Dynamaxing and Terastylizing don't. I still think the latter two are neat ideas, but Mega Evolution was the best.

  • @luigiRobs14
    @luigiRobs14 Год назад +149

    The worst part is ILCA wanted to make it a good remake but Masuda and GF stopped them

    • @axzaos
      @axzaos 9 месяцев назад +1

      How?

    • @VezixHaikal
      @VezixHaikal 7 месяцев назад +11

      fk masuda fr

    • @mzxa9988
      @mzxa9988 7 месяцев назад +4

      Probably because they scared ppl will be like Ilca did what GF cant

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 6 месяцев назад +10

      @luigiRobs14
      Not even Game Freak, but The Pokemon Company. Game Freak actually had little to no power in the franchise, outside of Masuda being a fool. They're essentially slaves for TPC, which is why they half-assed gen 6 so much and tried to make their own IPs during this era (and failed horribly, cause Game Freak is still an incompetent game company, despite all their success.)

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami 6 месяцев назад

      Fck Masuda all my homies hate Masuda.

  • @RetailSorcerer
    @RetailSorcerer 11 месяцев назад +94

    Pearl was my first Pokemon so when SP dropped I immediately picked it up, honestly I enjoyed it just as much as I did when I was a kid

    • @KotaWebb
      @KotaWebb 8 месяцев назад +7

      Same bro, idk what people were expecting when they bought this game but it’s everything a remake should be, the same game it was with some minor improvements. And that’s exactly what this was. The end where you get to catch every legendary was an amazing addition

    • @KabroSaavedra
      @KabroSaavedra 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I don't like the style of the new pokemons; they shouldn't change the view from above

    • @iv0453
      @iv0453 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@KotaWebb Bro you are coping really hard, every Pokémon remake had more content than bdsp

    • @iv0453
      @iv0453 7 месяцев назад

      You liked them because you were simply blinded by nostalgia

    • @KotaWebb
      @KotaWebb 7 месяцев назад

      @@iv0453 how tf does that make sense, I’m coping?? I love the ORIGINAL diamond, and when I played this one it was the exact same game with new graphics and a bit more content. A remaster truthfully doesn’t even need added content but it was appreciated. Now go through your fit that you didn’t get Pokémon diamond and pearl 2 even though it never said it was gonna be that

  • @drakerevel1768
    @drakerevel1768 11 месяцев назад +5

    The DP remakes could have been so much better if they just went ORAS/LPE route. They could have just made the remakes in the art style of Let’s Go, use Platinum improvements as a base for gameplay, add around 100 Pokémon from later gens and bring back mega evolution to continue the mega timeline. It was so easy to make remakes that would be beloved and they still fucked up…

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  11 месяцев назад

      I hear you, and it's true that many fans had high hopes for the DP remakes. It seems like you were expecting a more faithful and enhanced remake, similar to what we saw in ORAS and Let's Go games. Incorporating improvements from Platinum, introducing newer Pokémon, and continuing the mega evolution storyline could have made for a fantastic experience. It's frustrating when a game falls short of expectations, especially when the potential for something great was there. Your disappointment is understandable.

  • @ElectroBlastLuigi
    @ElectroBlastLuigi Год назад +166

    The problem was that some fans didn't really like Diamond and Pearl to begin with due to its story and other things. Platinum improved and fixed some things and that's why people always praise it.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +15

      hmmm you got a point

    • @jinkun2629
      @jinkun2629 Год назад +37

      That's what I call revisionist history. I grew up through Gen 1 to 4, and nobody cared about the stories back in the day. Pokemon isn't a franchise that became successful for its storytelling.
      It took until Gen 5 before we actually got a good story (by Pokemon standards), and then years later, Gen 5 kids grew up and decided that storytelling did matter. Which retroactively brought hate to the previous gens even though Gen 5 would have never existed without the success of the previous gens. I guarantee you that nobody hated DP until years later.

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 Год назад

      @@jinkun2629there is a lot of rewriting of history going on at the moment. Just look at the vitriol Gen 2 (and by extension Johto) is suddenly getting. Suddenly being a sequel/expansion on Kanto is a bad thing, despite that being the thing that made it popular in the first place.
      We've all forgotten how much hate Gen 3 got when it first came out. People didn’t like the national dex cut in Gen 8? We already had one of those when Ruby and Sapphire came out. They completely severed all ties to the first 2 gens, and people hated it.
      Diamond and Pearl were not universally hated. There was a, "yeah Platinum is better" moment, but that was the same for Emerald compared to Ruby and Sapphire. Platinum built on what had already been done well in Diamond and Pearl. In fact I unironically prefer Diamond over Platinum (I recognise that Platinum is better technically but there are certain changes which makes key plot moments less fun for me).
      There is an element of dissatisfaction with ORAS similar to some of the backlash to BDSP. There is a regression in enemy teams to Ruby/Sapphire teams (which were always inferior to Emerald's), a loss in the original Emerald plot line with both evil teams causing problems across Hoenn. This was lost in remaining loyal to Ruby and Sapphire. The same thing happened with BDSP, the difference is that ORAS makes up for it with overall improvements, and alignment with the current gens graphics and mechanics. BDSP does neither of these things. The lack of platinum is only one of many issues.

    • @Superluigi881
      @Superluigi881 Год назад +12

      As someone who had Platinum as his first Pokémon game I'm playing through Pearl right now. It's really not that bad. It's flawed and obviously inferior to Platinum but I'm not hating myself for playing it. This shit remake (which is a lazy, poorly balanced pile of crap even when it stands on its own.) probably just tainted your memories of it.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Год назад +2

      That was certainly _not_ the main issue with BDSP, lol.

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 Год назад +86

    There’s actually content and concept art showing BDSP was originally gonna be more like ORAS/HGSS and sword and shield but it seems like Game Freak/Nintendo made them change it too avoid competing with Legends Arceus or whatever….

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Год назад +28

      Gamefreak is the worst, they make bdsp look worse so their beta games legends arceus got the spotlight

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 11 месяцев назад +8

      Ahh, most interesting. I mean, the Community were definitely presuming something like this - and indeed later it was found by Miners that the game's actual code was from the OG gen3 - it's basically a re-skinned port!

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@haroldnecmann7040and doesn't help both games released so obnoxiously close to each other either

    • @LenKirin
      @LenKirin 8 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@haroldnecmann7040too bad that game was actually fucking good and GF shouldve actually modeled SV in the same way.

  • @theicingcreeper
    @theicingcreeper Год назад +179

    BDSP was the most disappointing thing I've ever seen in my life. I really had hope in it! I'm so sad my favorite generation had such an awful remake but its whatever😭 Wish they even at least based it off Platinum, and even Platinum fixed some of the issues that DP Had like the slowness(other than the HP Bar). Hope future remakes dont end up like this. Great Video Mark!😄👍

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +5

      ong fr fr

    • @Aroumia
      @Aroumia Год назад +8

      We got robbed💀💀💀

    • @theicingcreeper
      @theicingcreeper Год назад +3

      @@Aroumia Unfortunately 😭

    • @Wastelander2258
      @Wastelander2258 Год назад +1

      Cynthia battle was good

    • @sage64thecrystal
      @sage64thecrystal Год назад

      eh idk what your complaing about people want it and people hate it. that's very ungrateful and sv is very disappointing and bad.

  • @FS-qv1mb
    @FS-qv1mb 8 месяцев назад +3

    I played with a friend group in which we all grew up with Pokemon and the trading cards so it had a huge nostalgic factor playing for us. Whilst playing we wouldn't wish for anything more to be added as it was good enough for us as long as it brought the nostalgia back from 2007, which it did! BDSP has been the most fun Pokemon game I've played since the release of HG/SS and I bought all Pokemon games each year.

  • @octokraken6359
    @octokraken6359 Год назад +112

    Great video! I think if BDSP had a few more months in development and added new content it would be have been much more well received. There should have been way more Hisui connections in BDSP and if you had save data for Legends Arceus the Hisuian Pokémon should have been catchable somewhere in BDSP. Or at least allowed them to be transferable. Not having the Hisui Pokemon in BDSP cause the fan base to get confused and think these Pokemon went extinct when it was confirmed they are not. The chibi art style wasn’t too bad, but the issue was that many fans were expecting something more like ORAS did so fans were ready to experience Sinnoh in the engine of SwSh. BDSP with more Pokemon and more content would have made the game so many times better.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +8

      Thank you and well said! I wish they did those connections with legends arceus that would of been so cool. Also yes i wish these games had the ORAS treatment but they didn’t. If they experimented with a different art style i wish they did for a different game 😭

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TKDPandaa Yes! Just imagine, all they had to do was give Us a modified Sword & Shield engine just like Millenniumloops did; it was nothing beyond their current Abilities at all! Only need slightly more time maybe.

    • @hisaceinthehole3426
      @hisaceinthehole3426 11 месяцев назад +2

      Time would have done nothing. They gave it to a green studio who had no idea what they were doing. So they just ported a ds game.

    • @tsukimaru131
      @tsukimaru131 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think that more time would've saved it. The game is technically sound (leagues above scarlet violet).
      Knowing Nintendo and how they operate, they probably gave the instruction of "do Not change anything unless we say so".

  • @maruishere2182
    @maruishere2182 Год назад +155

    BDSP was game freak's way of telling us to never ask them for anything ever again.

    • @IsleofPigsStudios
      @IsleofPigsStudios Год назад +13

      Coming from someone who hasn’t played a Sinnoh game before BDSP… I’m taking that advice. I hate BDSP and I don’t want my first Unova or Johto experience to be BDSP all over again. (Why specifically those two? Because those are the only regions that I haven’t played a game that takes place there yet)

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Год назад +19

      Gamefreak is one developer I wish stayed away from pokemon games ever again. 😂

    • @IsleofPigsStudios
      @IsleofPigsStudios Год назад +8

      I never want ILCA to make a main series Pokémon game again

    • @Aaron-hv4hr
      @Aaron-hv4hr 11 месяцев назад +1

      Their way of saying be careful what you ask for

    • @Rev_Goose
      @Rev_Goose 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@IsleofPigsStudiosdang, you've missed the 3 best pokemon games (Black and White, Platinum, and HGSS)

  • @insaneadem5014
    @insaneadem5014 Год назад +85

    After Oras I was hoping that every remake would take place in the mega evolution timeline. That way they could make the new pokemon in the classic style and let them have the spotlite, while slowly introducing new mega evolutions.

    • @vectoralphaSec
      @vectoralphaSec 10 месяцев назад +9

      Gamefreak isn't as smart as that

    • @colonel1003
      @colonel1003 6 месяцев назад +1

      Giving every starter a mega would be awesome

  • @lubbo5261
    @lubbo5261 8 месяцев назад +19

    When Fans ask for a Diamant/Perl Remake they wanted a Remake of Platinum not Diamant and Perl.
    The OG D/P already isn't good and only the many changes Platinum made did end up making Sinnoh one of the best Regions.

    • @valletas
      @valletas 5 месяцев назад +3

      Worst is that there already was a precedent for this while emerald wasnt remade pokemon crystal was for hgss

    • @timesup6302
      @timesup6302 4 месяца назад +3

      Platinum remake would have been sooo much better. In platinum you had access to fire types like houndoom so you weren't forced to choose infernape or rapidash. And that's just 1 example

    • @ljmendez6930
      @ljmendez6930 3 месяца назад

      Diamond and pearl were great games what are you smoking

    • @timesup6302
      @timesup6302 3 месяца назад +2

      @ljmendez6930 I think you misunderstood. They are talking about the remakes. They are saying when we got BDSP, we wanted essentially a platinum remake with all the bonuses of platinum and access to the new gen 8 pokemon and fairy type. What we got was a gen 8 port of the original diamond and pearl and got none of the benefits of platinum

    • @giganticmoon
      @giganticmoon 2 месяца назад

      @@ljmendez6930The ORIGINAL Diamond and Pearl were alright, Platinum fixed a ton.

  • @Ryth
    @Ryth Месяц назад +7

    i thought the remakes were fire.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Месяц назад +1

      i thought they were good. just a lot of ppl rlly hate these remakes 😭 also hope you enjoyed the video!

  • @platinumstar3
    @platinumstar3 Год назад +32

    As someone who started with Gen 4 and whose first introduction to Pokémon was through Diamond and Pearl, you could imagine my excitement hoping that we’d get a remake like HGSS or ORAS. Only for that excitement to turn into utter disappointment when BDSP were announced and eventually released. Rather than giving Sinnoh a fresh can of paint and new foundation, they just painted over the cracks and did nothing to expand Sinnoh. I’m incredibly fearful of Gen 5 remakes just because of how lazy these games were

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 8 месяцев назад +5

      As a Unova Fan who grew up on gen 5 (being 9 in 2011) I hate how the next games in 2024 are going to be beautiful upscaled Johto remakes bc Gamefreak loves pandering gens 1-2 so much while the inevitable gen 5 remakes will look worse than BdSp smh.

  • @watsonwrote
    @watsonwrote Год назад +65

    I'm playing it now for the first time, and I was prepared to hate it. But I don't. It doesn't size up to the other remakes, which I also replayed somewhat recently and they had a lot more to offer the player. But it's not horrible -- just some poor directional choices.
    I think they executed their concept competently (after the bug fixes.) They just didn't nail the concept as well as they could have.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +9

      Ooo i like your opinion. I don’t hate it but definitely didn’t size up to the other games

    • @gordahnculous
      @gordahnculous Год назад +3

      Agreed, BDSP was my first main series Pokemon game that I’d played since USUM, and while it certainly doesn’t hold up as a remake when compared to others like HGSS and ORAS, it was a great first Pokémon game on the switch after a few years of not playing and since Pearl was my first ever game I easily racked up 150+ hours on it. I really appreciated the fact that in theory, as long as you know someone with the opposite version you could complete the National dex and there were some fantastic additions such as the Grand Underground. Of course now that I’ve played PLA all of my brain cells have been going there ever since, but by no means were they bad

    • @Amins88
      @Amins88 10 месяцев назад

      I haven't played it myself because of how much hate it was getting, but really, it sounds like people were just too greedy with what they wanted. All it really needs to be is modernized with QoL enhancements, which from the sounds of it, that's what it is. I really don't want a bunch of extra flair, I just want to relive Diamond without the slog of 2006 gameplay.

    • @janzyt3997
      @janzyt3997 9 месяцев назад

      Nobody mentioned elite 4 and Cynthia has better AI strategies than the other champion remakes 😅

    • @Dandoskyballer
      @Dandoskyballer 8 месяцев назад

      But Nintendo keeps their games full price forever. I'll never purchase a remake for full price.

  • @erecto_patronum
    @erecto_patronum Год назад +50

    A true remake should combine all aspects and features of the games they're remaking. Like you said, the Suicune chase from Crystal was in HGSS. The Delta Episode in ORAS was an enhancement from Emerald with the ability to catch Rayquaza plus they added for the first time ever the ability to find & catch Deoxys officially without events. BDSP are just 3D ports of the Gen 4 games with barely added content.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +5

      You make a valid point about what fans often expect from a true remake. Many successful remakes have combined and enhanced the features and content from multiple games in the same generation. It's true that BDSP, while bringing Sinnoh into 3D, didn't introduce as much new content or features as some fans had hoped. Different fans have different expectations for remakes, and it's natural for them to express their preferences and feedback. Hopefully, future Pokémon remakes will continue to evolve and meet the desires of the fanbase.

    • @taipaulsen4347
      @taipaulsen4347 11 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly I think it’s hilarious before the patches in a bdsp speedrun you could beat the game with battling maybe 1 trainer. Sure you could do that in rby, but that was 27 years ago

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 6 месяцев назад +1

      @fanarkboy8543
      Not just that; they're legitimately worse than Diamond and Pearl due to the forced Exp Share and Affection, along with "trying to balance the over-leveling out" by making an insanely hard, Battle Frontier-level Elite Four, while 99% of the game before that was stupidly boringly easy. Adding those two horrendous "modern era" bullsh*t elements into BD/SP literally make them unplayable for me, and it's why the last official Pokemon game I've bought was Ultra Moon.

    • @erecto_patronum
      @erecto_patronum 6 месяцев назад

      @@MarvinPowell1 I agree. Forced EXP Share and affection really makes the game way too easy. I wish we could go back to the good old days when Exp.Share was a held item.

  • @carsonmerical7064
    @carsonmerical7064 7 месяцев назад +6

    6:35 this aged kinda funny 💀💀

  • @OfficialRedTeamReview
    @OfficialRedTeamReview 11 месяцев назад +3

    My man here has only 10k subs but his video editing is on par with channels that have 1 million subs. top notch, brother.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you bro! We’re gonna make it to 1 million in the future. We gotta keep grinding and making content, i appreciate the kind words brother :)

  • @Servalsno1fan
    @Servalsno1fan Год назад +82

    What i like from ORAS is that they brought in the gimmick from the latest Pokemon game at it's time, mega evolutions, it simply brings a little more variety into the game and a more fresh experience to it's veterans at least.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +8

      yes i loved ORAS. technically my 2nd pokemon game i've played and it was so good. we need another remake like this

    • @flaregamer64
      @flaregamer64 Год назад +4

      Lol people were glad Dynamax wasn't in BDSP when it was first revealed. Imagine the Gym Leader redesigns if it did.

    • @Servalsno1fan
      @Servalsno1fan Год назад +4

      @@flaregamer64 that one is pretty understandable, dynamax and gigantamax is too crazy imo, you literally need to change a whole gym or league for it to work.
      But i do wish they brought terrastalization to unova remake, terrastalize was simple and straight forward.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 11 месяцев назад +4

      ORAS really did have it all. It's still my favourite ever, just above the gen5 games and then (yea I know, controversy time 🙄) , the gen9 games Scarlet & Violet.

    • @5uper5kill3rz
      @5uper5kill3rz 11 месяцев назад +1

      you see, that sounds horrible to me. I hated mega evolutions, I've never played a new game since X & Y and I'm not even sure I finished that, so glad Brilliant Diamond is basically a remaster.

  • @quantasium
    @quantasium Год назад +95

    Apparently, ILCA had a lot more planned for BDSP, but GameFreak shut them down and used some of their ideas for PLA.

    • @VezixHaikal
      @VezixHaikal 7 месяцев назад

      thats dick move

    • @HaruKiyoshi643
      @HaruKiyoshi643 7 месяцев назад +1

      source for that info sir?

    • @darknid158
      @darknid158 7 месяцев назад

      @@HaruKiyoshi643just trust me bro

    • @keithflippers4429
      @keithflippers4429 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@HaruKiyoshi643 some else said it so it must be true

    • @gregkareem9824
      @gregkareem9824 7 месяцев назад

      U didn't answer the question

  • @oskadavies9983
    @oskadavies9983 11 месяцев назад +16

    I really hope game freak and the Pokemon company pay attention to the backlash from bdsp and not the sales and don't ruin black and white remakes

    • @hisaceinthehole3426
      @hisaceinthehole3426 11 месяцев назад +7

      People buy game freaks shit, whether it's slop or gold. And we haven't been given gold since 3ds. They have no incentive to care.

    • @lacuevadelosrpg4070
      @lacuevadelosrpg4070 11 месяцев назад +6

      Do you know that people complaining in social media are only a small portion of playerbase? Most people dont care about all those things. They just buy the game and play

    • @hisaceinthehole3426
      @hisaceinthehole3426 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@lacuevadelosrpg4070 exactly

    • @MartyFromDagestan
      @MartyFromDagestan 25 дней назад +1

      Pokemon black and white might be smoked my dude

  • @WompaStompaCyn
    @WompaStompaCyn 11 месяцев назад +1

    "How can the romhack do it better than gamefreak?"
    Because Gamefreak is a mediocre dev that's been coasting on their fans' nostalgia and low standards for 20 years.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  11 месяцев назад

      oo dang thats true

  • @RoseSupreme
    @RoseSupreme 11 месяцев назад +2

    1:09 They're not remakes. They're enhanced editions like Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, but split into two versions so they could make more money and capitalize on Necrozma having multiple forms like Kyurem, but it made sense for Black/White because they at least got an *ENTIRELY* new story. USUM just reworks trainer teams, adds more Pokémon variety and changes up/expands the endgame and postgame activity, at the cost of Lillie and Lusamine's character arcs sucking.
    GAME FREAK would never remake a game literally a *YEAR* after the original games launched.

  • @blondon1368
    @blondon1368 11 месяцев назад +27

    The battles just feel so slow. There are so many animations that can't be skipped. They really need to add a speed up function like most emulators have

  • @Fr4yDay
    @Fr4yDay Год назад +21

    One way they could’ve made BDSP stand out more would’ve been including the Hisuian Pokemon. Yes, they’d would make Legends Arceus somewhat redundant for Pokédex completion, but it still would’ve been something. Maybe they could’ve made it a compatibility update. If you have a Legends Arceus save file, Hisuian Pokemon’ll start appearing in BDSP. Or at least the cross-Gen evolutions like Kleavor to tease PLA more. (And why didn’t they include Sylveon or the 2 new Regis at the time?)

  • @dylanupton
    @dylanupton Год назад +8

    I believe I remember reason not long after release that ILCA said their original vision for the game was full 3D in the style of sw/sh, but gamefreak the Pokémon company insisted on the chibi style.

  • @vectoralphaSec
    @vectoralphaSec 10 месяцев назад +5

    I just realized i havent bought or even played a Pokemon game since Sun/ Moon. Literally eveygame since then i decided to skip because it wasnt good enough.

    • @HB703_
      @HB703_ 7 месяцев назад +2

      i’m in a tough spot cause the last pokemon i played was sun on my 2DS and i finished it and now having a switch it seems the switch pokemon games are disappointments 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @haydenbennett3547
    @haydenbennett3547 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think people realized just how boring Pearl and Diamond actually are and just lashed out because it was a literal copy paste of the originals with some minor additions.

    • @somethingcool9979
      @somethingcool9979 11 месяцев назад +1

      The only person here who knows the truth. People learning they didn’t like Gen 4.

  • @rickyo7061
    @rickyo7061 11 месяцев назад +13

    TKD, you'd have to ask gamefreak why bdsp came out the way it did , not ilca. Ilca's vision of the game would've looked like legends arceus ( but based in the present time) and it would've probably been just as good. Game freak or the pkmn company restricted them from doing so because they wanted legends arceus to shine more

  • @shadowdragonlord2295
    @shadowdragonlord2295 Год назад +8

    The Chibi style didn't bother me all that much.
    It was the lack of an new content or improvements made by Platinum and other less than wanted changes that ruin this game for me.

  • @MelodyStarz
    @MelodyStarz Год назад +49

    Heartgold and SoulSilver will always be the #1 best remakes ever in the games. ORAS was a good remake too though, just some minor changes made certain things more annoying in that version. But overall was pretty solid also.

    • @JamiePokemonTrainer
      @JamiePokemonTrainer 11 месяцев назад +5

      HGSS are arguably the worse remakes. Didn't fix issues from gen two. Inherit issues in gen four.

    • @MelodyStarz
      @MelodyStarz 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@JamiePokemonTrainer Wrong. Incorrect opinion.

    • @JamiePokemonTrainer
      @JamiePokemonTrainer 11 месяцев назад +3

      nope. my opinion is correct@@MelodyStarz

    • @RK-cj4oc
      @RK-cj4oc 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@JamiePokemonTrainerYour opinion is incorrect.

    • @JamiePokemonTrainer
      @JamiePokemonTrainer 11 месяцев назад

      @@RK-cj4oc nope. my opinion is correct. Muted

  • @PokeMixr92
    @PokeMixr92 11 месяцев назад +5

    It's stupid cause they could've gone for an HD remaster or port of Diamond, Pearl & Platinum with HQ orchestrated music and that would've imo been better. I wanted to buy an Oled Switch for summer last year and the only ones left in stock were bundled with BDSP, so I had no choice but to buy it. Upon trying it I decided to play all the way to the league, but had soooo much trouble playing consistenly cause I didn't find any joy in it. I have never had this before with any of the previous Pokémon games. I hope BW remakes aren't gonna take the same route...

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  11 месяцев назад +1

      For real man i feel the same way. Literally and HD remaster or port of DP would of been so much better than the “new” art style. So let’s just pray that BW remakes aren’t like this 😭

  • @FatherPars51
    @FatherPars51 11 месяцев назад +3

    If you didn’t do any research, just say that.
    ILCA did NOT choose Chibi, Nintendo forced them to.
    Look at their concept art. This had the potential to be something truly incredible.

  • @owensanfordstuff
    @owensanfordstuff Год назад +12

    I was expecting a sword snd shield looking game with dynamax, set in in sinnoh like omega ruby snd alpha sapphire were to XY

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy4010 Год назад +8

    My only problem with it is that it probably shouldn't have been full price. Still would rather play it over Let's Go, no doubt.
    At $40, the game would be a pretty easy recommendation (which it's very easy to find at that price now anyway, unlike other Pokemon titles).

  • @andrasylvan9915
    @andrasylvan9915 Год назад +21

    I wish there was enough force in this world to make me forget this remake ever happened.

  • @DarkDiamond-jx2gx
    @DarkDiamond-jx2gx 11 месяцев назад +3

    i just bought Pokémon SP like 2 weeks ago and ive been having a blast (just beat it yesterday). I didn't know there was even a controversy over it, although as someone who grew up with Platinum, (which was my first ever Pokémon game) only gripe I really had was a lack of platinum content. Otherwise I've had fun with it, don't regret the purchase.

  • @moisessaca758
    @moisessaca758 3 месяца назад +3

    “They had 10 years to get it right” Bro they had 15 years. And I waited for every single day. Not giving that ungrateful company a single dollar of mine again.

  • @Nameless_mixes
    @Nameless_mixes 11 месяцев назад +20

    Honestly, I was excited at the first trailer for BDSP when I saw the chibis. I thought “Pokemon was so much better with chibi models!” Mainly referring to gens 1-5. But gens 6 and 7 were pretty good too. It seemed like a lot of corners were cut and issues arose once the games tried going with a more true-to-size feel (gens 8 and 9).
    When I saw that Pokemon following us would be back, I felt validated. Like “This is why chibis were the right choice! They make things easier to program and will allow for improvements in other aspects of the game that people actually care about!”
    And then… The games came out. First day patched were needed, the in game experience was too much, the affection stat made things too easy, they butchered contests, a lot of aspects from Platinum weren’t included, and so forth and so on. I wanted to believe so badly that these games were going to go back to the franchise’s roots and prioritize quality of game play over trying to look realistic. And I was so disappointed.
    It sucks how 4th gen was the personal favorite for a lot of people (myself included). And 5th genners tend to be some of the most devout in the community. I hope that the inevitable remakes for that gen are much better.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  11 месяцев назад +4

      Your perspective highlights the anticipation and potential disappointment that can come with the release of new Pokémon games. It's clear that you, like many fans, had certain expectations for Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, especially with the return of chibi-style graphics. It can be disheartening when a game doesn't meet those expectations, particularly for a generation as beloved as the 4th one.
      Fans' attachment to specific generations and their hopes for the future are a testament to the enduring appeal of the Pokémon series. With each new release, there's a mix of excitement and apprehension. Here's hoping that future games, including remakes for the 5th generation, manage to balance nostalgia with meaningful improvements for the overall experience. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 11 месяцев назад +1

      The overworld style is also inconsistent with how the humans are chibis, but the Pokémon aren't, they're just their normal battle models downscaled to fit inside the grid, unlike say every Gen prior that used chibis also gave the Pokémon their chibi version to match the humans and the environment, which there's no excuse because this game has a limited dex so they didn't need to do a custom model for literally every Pokémon that existed up to that point, and shows how they went with chibis just for the sake of cutting corners by letting them easily copy paste the og overworld and grid without modifying it all that much besides an aesthetic bump, and weren't really comitted to embrace it, and by aesthetic bump I mean its just an upscale of the original's with no real improvements, all the way to even the bland forgettable locations the original had before Platinum made them not look like a bunch of recycled assets

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 10 месяцев назад +1

      Us gen 5 Stans finna get something worse 😭😭

  • @BrokenSoulConfession
    @BrokenSoulConfession Год назад +15

    Well, I think Legends Arceus was in fact the real Sinnoh remake. It checked all the boxes of the 'great remake' with different storyline on a familiar region, new forms for the cover legendaries, new features, etc.
    But I feel PLA was such a massive departure in terms of gameplay. So BDSP were pushed (last minute decision? Due to the massive demand for Sinnoh anniversary title) to be the complementary titles, so that new players will understand the difference between the two. In a way, PLA IS the Platinum for BDSP's original Diamond and Pearl. That's why BDSP didn't include Platinum's content.

    • @KSD-2526
      @KSD-2526 Год назад

      With then being compliments to each other I feel like the best way to experience them may be to play both at the same time. Maybe use home to evolve Pokémon in pla for Bdsp and vice versa. Obviously that shouldn’t be needed but that’s how I played them and I had a good time.

    • @veliserbet6248
      @veliserbet6248 Год назад +1

      I agree, I said the same thing above. Plus the add on, is that I prefer BDSP having the Chibi artstyle I feel the whole point was to have that nostalgic feel for players that played the original games or were around then ,but couldn't, due to money issues(Me 😔). Not everything has to be a flippin open world game. It feels like the genre is getting muddied now, with every classic game trying to delve in open world. Not to say the newer games shouldnt be. I think PLA and SV were executed quite nice (with my only gripe being that SV storyline was boring af)

    • @caiusdrakegaming8087
      @caiusdrakegaming8087 Год назад

      @@veliserbet6248 In defense of the storyline, it's really just the gym storyline that was boring to me. You're just going through the gyms, nothing exciting there to be honest. The Titans and Team Star were honestly a lot more engaging, I actually teared up during both of them.
      As for BDSP, yeah fully agree that it was likely not meant to be the real remake for Gen 4. It was more of a remaster than a remake, and even compared to FRLG, where the Gen they were launched in didn't really have any major gimmick, BDSP still felt even more lacking than them.

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 6 месяцев назад

      @BrokenSoulConfession
      Legends Arceus were trash to anyone who's ever played a JRPG that isn't Pokemon. ONLY people who have just played Pokemon games before, could call PLA "good." They were mediocre in a sea of gen 8 trash and had they not been Pokemon games, would've been reviewed as a "6 out of 10" at best.
      Honestly, they should've just made solid Sinnoh remakes of Diamond and Pearl and left the experimental "journey to the past" Breath of the Wild rip-offs to Scarlet and Violet. Sinnoh was done dirty by getting _two_ half-assed games, instead of one actual _good_ game. (Well, three if you count BD and SP as two different games, but you know what I mean.)

  • @DanPeters182
    @DanPeters182 Год назад +4

    My conspiracy is that they attempted to make a full open world modern style Diamond and Pearl, but couldn't make the technology work, work instead converted that into Legends Arceus, but were still contracted to make them so ILCA had to throw something together last minute. There's a thing when covering a song in music, where you can generally do one of two things, make it completely your own or make it mirror the original, any attempts to do an inbetween fails and ILCA went for the "mirror the original" take but it's just not what anyone actually wanted.

  • @nuaxT
    @nuaxT 6 месяцев назад +2

    I actually quite liked the remakes and found them incredibly enjoyable and grindy without the exp candies. I thought they were probably like an 8.7 out of 10

  • @Nodm8
    @Nodm8 9 месяцев назад +4

    My only gripe was the character models, that being said I DON'T want any more remakes. I would much rather them revisiting older regions with new characters,protag,story and such like what they did with Black/White 2.

  • @Zain94336
    @Zain94336 11 месяцев назад +3

    I heard the diamond and pearl director was jealous of pokemon platinum being better

  • @NickRyanOfficial
    @NickRyanOfficial Год назад +9

    The experience share killed it for me. I was 10 levels over leveled by Champion Cynthia battle. I would have enjoyed them more if it was challenging as the original.

    • @bugcatcherjacky1334
      @bugcatcherjacky1334 Год назад +2

      I feel you. All GameFreak has to do is give the exp share an on and off button and so many complaints would be gone.

    • @Jarhead402011
      @Jarhead402011 Год назад +1

      Honestly i used to be a giant hater of exp share but if you were 10 levels over leveled by the time you got to cynthia you likely did too much training against wild pokemon or something. I did none and i was right there on par or even a level or 2 lower than her pokemon and it was a very tough fight. Exp share only over levels you if you are training all the time but if you just train off the trainer battles then it puts you in a pretty good spot, especially if you are catching pokemon later down the line for your team instead of from the beginning

    • @NickRyanOfficial
      @NickRyanOfficial Год назад +1

      @@bugcatcherjacky1334 they really need an on/off button. Can’t see why they don’t implement that for older players.

    • @bugcatcherjacky1334
      @bugcatcherjacky1334 Год назад +2

      @@NickRyanOfficial Especially since they had an on/off button in gen 6 but then just... Changed it for some reason

    • @NickRyanOfficial
      @NickRyanOfficial Год назад +2

      @@Jarhead402011 as someone that had played these games day 1 since 1998, this version was too easy. Did every trainer battle like a normal game and wasn’t grinding to get all the Pokémon as I 100% the dex of the original from 2007.

  • @Blastosie_Offical
    @Blastosie_Offical Год назад +14

    I'm gonna save you 8 minutes and 4 seconds with these 3 words:
    It's not Platinum

  • @st.altair4936
    @st.altair4936 2 месяца назад +3

    Lmao calling this a "remake" is an insult to ORAS

  • @Ragdoll00
    @Ragdoll00 7 месяцев назад +3

    I loved the remake, besides the characters. I would've hated it if they made the remake in the new format as the new game format is really bad imo(I hate the open world)

  • @pokemonsnapsnap4852
    @pokemonsnapsnap4852 11 месяцев назад +4

    It’s only so exciting to encounter Geodude and Zubat in caves constantly. That’s pretty much all I remember from the game.

  • @jaimeerobertswarz
    @jaimeerobertswarz Год назад +13

    They would have received less hate if it was Platinum, & Platinums story. They also locked evolution items after the elite 4. They also used gen 4 Diamond & Pearls Pokedex.

  • @termitesc.aardwolf3644
    @termitesc.aardwolf3644 Год назад +6

    Frankly, I think BDSP is better than the original Diamond and Pearl simply because of the addition of Grand Underground, Fairy types and dropping of HMs. Not as good as Platinum but still better than vanilla Diamond and Pearl. It's not my fave Pokemon game but I think its overhated.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад

      hmmm interesting take, i did like the grand underground but just in my opinion i love regular diamond and pearl better

    • @KSD-2526
      @KSD-2526 Год назад +1

      Bruh what. Original dp is fine and all, did enjoy it, but Bdsp is way better, not as good as platinum but way better then original dp

    • @SonicTheCutehog
      @SonicTheCutehog Год назад

      The Grand Underground was in the original Diamond and Pearl

    • @termitesc.aardwolf3644
      @termitesc.aardwolf3644 Год назад

      @@SonicTheCutehog You couldn't find Houndoom or Scyther in it, though.

    • @SonicTheCutehog
      @SonicTheCutehog Год назад

      @@termitesc.aardwolf3644 That's about it

  • @joemyhill9779
    @joemyhill9779 7 месяцев назад +3

    I grew up with diamond and platinum and didn’t care for the newer games beyond gen 5. I don’t like the new gimmicks, the new pokemon designs and the general direction Pokemon has gone. The fact that BDSP didn’t change anything suited me perfectly. I think it was made for fans like me who just wanted to play the old games with a fresh lick of paint

  • @sonicjhiq
    @sonicjhiq 10 месяцев назад +2

    USUM is not a remake it's a 3rd version split into 2

  • @mrd7532
    @mrd7532 9 месяцев назад +3

    fans BEGGED for the games to stay the same, this is what happens when developers hear the stupid ideas fans come up with

  • @SwaggyKitty101
    @SwaggyKitty101 11 месяцев назад +5

    Now I'm scared for the Gen 5 remakes...

  • @pseudonymous317
    @pseudonymous317 11 месяцев назад +7

    who the fuck actually consider USUM as remakes???
    do you play pokemon through smallant or alpharad? bcs you must be late for school tomorrow if you actually thinks that USUM is a remake

  • @Zero51
    @Zero51 11 месяцев назад +3

    Man HeartGold and SoulSilver for the switch would be a dream come true 😢

  • @videogamephenomhd
    @videogamephenomhd 5 месяцев назад +1

    No Mega Evolutions, no species beyond Generation IV, same trainer battles, and lack of other decent features all serve as a principal reason why BDSP failed to make the charts. Even if ILCA, Inc. was responsible for the works instead of Game Freak, there are many more reasons why a remake seemed to be rushed without a trace.

  • @Eclipse-nu7dl
    @Eclipse-nu7dl 11 месяцев назад +1

    its hated because they faithfully remade the games. the issue is:
    diamond and pearl were never good, so faithfully remaking those two games was going to fail from the beginning
    when people think of gen 4 they think of platinum. but they're diamond and pearl remakes

  • @bensell982
    @bensell982 Год назад +8

    BDSP was aggressively okay. They're heavily flawed but not terrible. One thing that I never understood was the complaints about the chibi artstyle. Literally every game before gen 6 had that same artstyle and nobody complained then. Hell even in gen 6 itself the main gameplay uses an artstyle halfway between chibi and realistic proportions.

    • @UncannyEXP
      @UncannyEXP Год назад +2

      People forget that there are full 3D models for every trainer during battle. It's not entirely chibi

    • @greedpower565
      @greedpower565 Год назад +10

      It was charming on the DS and GB, it's horrible on the switch

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Год назад +1

      ​@@greedpower565agreed😂

    • @razrafz
      @razrafz 11 месяцев назад +5

      because they moved on from the SD chibi since XY, why go back?

    • @Aaron-hv4hr
      @Aaron-hv4hr 11 месяцев назад +8

      You said it yourself- before gen 6, we’re on 9 now bud

  • @kittensolder8818
    @kittensolder8818 Год назад +9

    Judging by skimming over post-SV clout videos, BDSP is officially going to become the Sonic 06 of Pokemon. The game that's forever referenced by reviewers and non-fan observers as "proof the series is bad," even 15-20 years after its release. (Especially considering these people deliberately pretend Legends Arceus doesn't exist due to being a "side game" when it's more of a main series entry than BDSP was ever meant to be.)

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +2

      i wish these games lowkey were more catered to the fans :(

    • @SonicTheCutehog
      @SonicTheCutehog Год назад +3

      Scarlet and Violet fit the "Sonic 06" moniker more with how buggy they are and their brand new mainline games.

    • @jdogmcfly1712
      @jdogmcfly1712 11 месяцев назад

      ​​​​@@SonicTheCutehogyeah but at least the new characters, pokemon, and story as a whole held it up, dp remakes were wanted for sooooooooooo long, abd was hyped up, but of course, they had to do what they did

  • @kerrygligorovic9758
    @kerrygligorovic9758 Год назад +4

    I'm hoping the remake of Pokemon Black and Pokemon White for next year will have graphic designs of the characters and the scenery just like Pokemon Sword/Shield and Pokemon Scarlet/Violet games because Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl games sucks as the characters in the games are small and not much scenery in the game at all.

  • @xDracolich
    @xDracolich 9 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are NOT bad games. They're essentially direct 1 to 1 remakes of Diamond & Pearl, but with some more features added. Saying they're bad games is saying that Diamond & Pearl are bad games, which is also not the case.

    • @gilliland101
      @gilliland101 9 месяцев назад

      While you are correct, you simply lose the argument because you can’t go backwards on a digital watch you don’t use anyways

  • @Frustratedartist2
    @Frustratedartist2 11 месяцев назад +1

    yeah but you all bought these remakes for full price so how would Gamefreak know that something is wrong? They don't care about the opinions and tastes, they only care about money.

  • @YourGuyAlex
    @YourGuyAlex 11 месяцев назад +5

    saying USUM is a remake is basically saying platinum is a remake

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 8 месяцев назад

      Well they are only games to not have that was Gen 5, 6 and 8-9. Gen 5 got BW2 sequels, gen 6 didn’t get anything, and Gens 8-9 just got DLC.

    • @theverybestyoutubeaccount
      @theverybestyoutubeaccount 7 месяцев назад

      Are Black White 2 remakes?

    • @YourGuyAlex
      @YourGuyAlex 7 месяцев назад

      @@theverybestyoutubeaccount no they are not :)

    • @theverybestyoutubeaccount
      @theverybestyoutubeaccount 7 месяцев назад

      @@YourGuyAlex OKAY SO IS THIS A MEAN THING TO SAY TO THE GAMES OR ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY ABOUT THESE GAMES

    • @YourGuyAlex
      @YourGuyAlex 7 месяцев назад

      @@theverybestyoutubeaccount whats with the caps? all i said is USUM arent remakes, theyre the "third version" of the game like platinum or emerald. HG SS are remakes, crystal is not
      see what im saying now????

  • @TKDPandaa
    @TKDPandaa  Год назад +7

    Its been one day and the video is already at 10k views! Thank you all for the support! Let me know what content you would like to see next :)

  • @Vulcan887
    @Vulcan887 10 месяцев назад +8

    Contrary to popular opinions, I played through this whole game with my best friend and it was extremely nostalgic and the story was consistent. I really enjoyed the experience and it really shows that if you stop thinking about what you don’t have but you focus on what there is, it is rather enjoyable.

    • @cleanfresh6718
      @cleanfresh6718 9 месяцев назад +6

      But that’s my issue, I feel like all this game had to offer was a nostalgia trip and nothing else 🙃

    • @okagron
      @okagron 9 месяцев назад +4

      The problem is that it's just a worse Platinum. For people like me that still have a 3DS and a Platinum copy, why would i waste 60 bucks on a mediocre remake that is worse than the version i already have?

    • @iv0453
      @iv0453 7 месяцев назад

      just consume product and get excited for new product.

  • @LinkNinjaMaster
    @LinkNinjaMaster 9 месяцев назад +1

    Chibi is fine, but it was not excecuted well either. The models don't look as charmig as something like Link's Awakening remake, they just ended up looking weird. This was compounded with big closeups that showed how the chibis barely emoted at all. Chibis worked on the DS because our brains filled in the blanks, but on the Switch we can plainly see that when pepole talk to each other, they don't REALLY talk, just they barely move and emote. It feels artificial.
    The last negative point about the chibis is that, instead of creating cutscenes with realistic proportions, you know, like ORAS did, no, they just used the in-game engine to make them and they look bad lol.

  • @toke31199
    @toke31199 5 месяцев назад +2

    i want remakes of this game i played as a kid, I got it.
    I have 0 problems with this game. Enjoing playing this game.

  • @kai_491
    @kai_491 Год назад +4

    Great video, just wanted to say the fan game is Luminescent Platinum. Renegade Platinum is DS Platinum but harder. My opion on BDSP is that they are games that aren't the worst but could be much better with small changes. Give trainers there Platinum teams, it just fits the type specialist's don't use a team made out of not their type. Add a toggle button for the in battle friendship stuff, it makes the fights too easy. Lastly the could make the story more like Platinum or they could have added postgame like in OR AS. And for so added fun mainly for the people who complain about gen 4 not having many fire types, give the player multiple different fire types throughout the game. Rant aside the game would be so much better if Gamefreak made it.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +1

      thank you! i agree with this if they just had added a little bit more to it. some people want me to do videos on luminescent platinum so im thinking about it. but yea its the small changes that could of made this game a lot better

  • @andreblueboy6019
    @andreblueboy6019 Год назад +4

    I’m excited to get arceus once I get the chance, but I’ll see when I can get brilliant Diamond and shining Pearl though, because mods made the games even better because of the new added in stuff that makes the game way better! So I’m happy the modders were able to fix these games up the right way, especially with making some custom fights with N & Ghetsis which I was super impressed with! I’m still going to get these and legends arceus plus the scarlet and violet whenever I get the chance! I’m excited to play them!

  • @ShinyPixelgon
    @ShinyPixelgon Год назад +5

    The main issues I have with the game is the movement. Literally I couldn't move 2 feet without slamming into a rock or something. The reason this happens is because the player hit box is way to big. Sometimes it makes it unenjoyable. Anyway Gr8 Vid!

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +2

      Thank you! I agree the movement is okay, i haven’t played the game in so long so i forgot

  • @moonlightbae6143
    @moonlightbae6143 7 месяцев назад +2

    It just sucks that Platinum is the best version of the gen 4 games to play because of how flawed Diamond and Pearl was in comparison. All they had to do was remake platinum

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  7 месяцев назад

      honestly have diamond pearl and then platinum as an option

    • @moonlightbae6143
      @moonlightbae6143 7 месяцев назад

      @@TKDPandaa I mean its still the best version to play over the remakes because the remakes didnt bother to use platinums improved features, which is the most disappointing of all

  • @SaberisloveSaberislife
    @SaberisloveSaberislife 11 месяцев назад +2

    Black/White was the peak and last best game in the series. I can't imagine the backlash if they mess up the remake. On another note, it's 2023 and there's still only 1 save file. That needs to be changed.

  • @BUDGE8
    @BUDGE8 Год назад +4

    This video was so good bro, your gonna make it far

  • @TheRaginGaugen
    @TheRaginGaugen Год назад +5

    I liked the games but I wish it had more stuff from platinum like using pokemon from the platinum dex and platinum level curves

  • @friendlyotaku9525
    @friendlyotaku9525 Год назад +6

    People hate BDSP for what they are not, rather than what they are and I've always felt that is unfair. I think they are very good games and good remakes that are objectively better than the original Diamond and Pearl just for how much faster they are! They do not deserve the hate they receive, they just don't.

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +1

      solid opinion i respect it

    • @anthonyhaney626
      @anthonyhaney626 Год назад +3

      They where basing there expectations on the previous remakes like hgss and oras which od fair because that was standard for pokemon remakes and usum are not remakes at all they are the enhanced copy split in two

    • @friendlyotaku9525
      @friendlyotaku9525 Год назад

      @@anthonyhaney626 Yeah, and BDSP are not like HGSS and ORAS, they are much more faithful, not entirely 1:1 but not too far off. And yeah USUM are enhanced version of SM, which are different to remakes and have since been phased out in favour of DLC (which I'm glad about)

  • @scrublord9505
    @scrublord9505 11 месяцев назад +1

    It’s funny how Pokémon gets so much criticism. From adults. Cuz the kids they’re actually for don’t have a voice nor platform

  • @lordjaraxxus5418
    @lordjaraxxus5418 11 месяцев назад +2

    BDSP's issues to me is that it sometimes felt clunky. The trainer battle animations feel weird, first it is a static pose like the originals then it goes to normal right after, making it feel unfinished. It would have been better if the trainers had simpler battle intro animations to keep the flow. There is still the pokedex issue of no fire types outside of ponyta and chimchar. Though this is kinda fixed with the underground. Some of the art style choices from platinum should have made it in (mainly Eterna city's Team Galactic building ).

  • @xxheart_breakerxx8732
    @xxheart_breakerxx8732 11 месяцев назад +9

    I’m one of the rare ones who enjoyed bdsp 😂 it’s a lot about nostalgia I guess. My parents didn’t allow me to have a Pokémon game because they thought it was to cruel for a kid to have "animals" fight against each other… but a friend in school borrowed me their perl so I was able to play it and I loved it so much. To this day shinx and starkly are my absolute faves and I have these ridiculous memories of asking my older cousin to help me through the Pokémon league and their face when they saw my level 40 something team that wasn’t evolved at all, because I thought they were cuter that way 🤣🤣 I’m also a big fan of the chibi art style, to me the best game designs were xy and oras. When you make the characters more detailed, the world around it needs that polishing too and I think the 3D games didn’t do that well enough. However, I’m really not someone who complains a lot about the games. I just enjoy catching pokemon. The only thing I was really sad about in bdsp was that it brought nothing new. Giratina's story, the house on the other areal… I hated that you just caught the legendarily in these random caves. Why not give them a story why they are there. The other remakes did that so much better. In that regard bdsp really wasn’t a remake, but just a newer design of the whole game 😅 so I do see the complaints. I just really enjoyed it still

    • @MoonlarkSpirits
      @MoonlarkSpirits 11 месяцев назад

      My parents wouldn’t let me play Pokémon because it was bad for my mental health

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MoonlarkSpirits💀

    • @michael10613
      @michael10613 10 месяцев назад +3

      parents be ridiculous as hell sometimes fr

  • @Brandon-kp5to
    @Brandon-kp5to 8 месяцев назад +3

    If you ever feel usless remember tdkpanda exists this was the last good pokemon modern remake he prob never played the old games gen 1

  • @samroxas6980
    @samroxas6980 Год назад +6

    I enjoyed it for what it was but it was incredibly underwhelming for what it was supposed to be and the graphics choice was clearly to make it way cheaper

    • @TKDPandaa
      @TKDPandaa  Год назад +1

      I agree, I did enjoy the game but it was underwhelming and poor graphics. Hope you liked the video!

  • @Shinotheblackcat
    @Shinotheblackcat 9 месяцев назад +2

    Pokemon Brilliant diamond and Shining pearl? More like pokemon broken diamond and shattered pearl

    • @chibsagu
      @chibsagu 9 месяцев назад +1

      You just made me realise how bad the names of both games sound