I put your Gen2R (800 hp kit) into my ‘09 5.4 and kept both, a very modest VMP 93 tune (asked for by me), and conservative 2.5 upper and stock lower. Added Dynatech LT and X-pipe and made 660whp. Scary fast! Well done VMP!
That gen 3 with JDM Super Stock cams, long tube headers and upgraded rods should hit very close to 1000 reliably. Definitely know what path my 2011 GT500 is taking now. Nice job VMP
Jdm cams are garbage, l&m are way better. A guy blew ruined his valves twice with a 5.4 gt500, because of the jdm cams. He switched to l&m never happened again
Thanks for not making me wait weeks to see the different upgrades and powwa gains..but yeah i would say throw some cams,full exhaust and stick to 93 octane or e85.
Love to see all the tests done again exactly as you did them in this segment, only change being long tube headers and 3” exhaust too the bumper 👍👍 No cam changes that’s way too much work for just about everyone that is looking for the power adder that’s pretty much a bolt on, for the advanced back yarder 😝
This is true! I dug out an old issue of mm&ff magazine since i have tons of them still dating all the way back to 2000 lol....anyways in this particular issue i cant remember exactly when it was somewhere between 2009 and 2011 i think...justin was in the dyno shootout with his old red and white 07 gt500 it made like 740 rwhp with an early version of the tvs blower, so cool. Theyve came a long ways since then the blowers just get better and better the gen3r is insane
Justin's parts are no joke. Saved up and built my GT500 off this video with a few minor changes (3R/Twin69). Made similar numbers but stopped at 700 wheel for longevity and staying with 93 octane. I'm set up with return fuel for E85 but the car is insane at this level just driving around on the street.
@@VMPPerformanceTVI have a 2012 Shelby gt500 with all the same mods and like he said the only difference is I have a 69mm Throttle body I’m wondering what fuel pumps did you go with for e and or what do you think I’m making
Brother I love your shop and content! Your products are even better! Im currently saving like a madman to get the gen3 for my Mach 1 with an aluminator 5.0 stroker with 8.6:1CR. I think the GT500 should have some nice pistons and rods with thermal coating and a lubricating coating, at leaste thats what Id do to the engine, some headers and a return fuel system and your gonna be driving a 900rwhp+ daily driver lol! Cant wait to see whats next to come on your channel and thanks for taking the time to make these videos, I cant get enough HP, or shows about it lol. Ill go ahead and say it, this is the best manufactures personal channel, everyone else is hiding behind the camera or way too professional anout what they are doing. You make your company seem so down to earth and approachable. Before I subscribed to your channel I was set on a PD blower, but that thought is long gone, roots is where its at for a daily driver and yours are the best on the market! Thanks again and I cant wait to watch some more!
@@VMPPerformanceTV hey Justin where does the ticking sounds come from at a idle is it the injectors? Please help it worries me seems like it happens at operation temp. It's a steady tick tick tick... Is that just a 5.4 thing?
@@jtee582 it depends on where the tick is coming from. But a very light and consistent tick from the injectors is not uncommon, as they're opening and closing on each combustion cycle.
Guess you didn't look hard enough as VMP has been setting the Mustang world on fire with their 2.3L TVS for about a decade now. Look at what this VMP 2.3L did to these 4.0L+ twin screws. ruclips.net/video/0Fy3LPVPNuQ/видео.html
@@Sir.VicsMasher without argument that the 2.3 & 2650 are great blowers but when push comes to push dont mess with the 4.0+ blowers I'll run any 2.3 or 2.650 blower vs my gen2 4.5 whipple. I might post numbers might not not sure. Hp isnt everything it's just a factor, gears, tune, driver,weight,tires. When I see a 2.3 or 2.650 make 1250-1400rwhp on blower only I'll be interested. Both great products not bashing at all I'd like to see a larger 3+ tvs
@@karlhopkins713 that is true but that is a max effort build. Max effort engine & blower 4.5+ blowers start getting serious 1400-1700rwhp. But respect is due where it is due I am liking that 2.650 great blower no arguing that. I'd like to run significant power without the stress of over spinning things to the moon. That's the main reason I picked the 4.5 whipple although it might be a little harder on the crank snout. Which is was my main concern Hopefully a billet crank will solve that
Awesome videos i love seeing these videos and i have a supercharged 05 but really want a shelby and good to see there is so much power to make on these even the older ones keep up the awesome work
VMPPerformance , yeah I think gotta do exhaust and then show what car is capable of before having to do return style fuel . Being a basically stock car and 5.8 , that makes me want a GT500 with a 4r200 conversion . I'm sure return-style and E85 at pump would get same results !
Oh yeah, you can see it in the torque numbers. Youd probably gain at least 30 or so just from an off road H or X pipe. I get the feeling this setup would come alive with headers.
Zexhaust is a must end of story and not that small bullshit 1-7/8 headers it needs 2" headers to 3.5 collector. This blower is capillary of a lot more power then they have shown they don't really push it at all
I would like to see a 2.4 upper with off road x pipe and 91/torco. Mostly because the cheap people that dont want to pay for full exhaust or racegas/e85 but want to take some advantages of a more free flowing exhaust/extra timing. I am also intrigued by how much boost will drop by to see how much restriction was freed up. I think 91 octane and torco tune would be nice to see on a Gen3. In a perfect world everyone would have E85 stations right next to them or didnt have to order barrels to keep in their garage.. however it seems to not be the case for most. :) Hopefully this idea intrigues you.
Big numbers are awesome as long as drive ability remains good. What will be the ultimate purpose of the car? Daily driver occasionally at the track? Awesome job, by the way. Excellent content😎
That's bad ass !!!!! I'm going to buy a gen 2R for my S550 . I think you should put on long tube headers & full exhaust . If I run 93 octane, and add a bottle of torco would that work ?
I'm in the market for a 2012 gt500 and I'd really like to get into the 850hp to 900 hp range can you guys give me a estimate on how much it would cost ?
@VMPPerformance Just checking in, was wondering, have you guys been able to run anymore testing? Have you looked at using the 149MM PMAS, with the donkey dick sleeve, with the 173MM throttle body?
My tuner is set for 92/93 octane. If I pour in a little octane booster into my tank, will I see a quicker car? I like your shirt can I get one of those?
VMPPerformance Hi Just bought the car with your tuner. Can I make the change myself or would I have to send to you? If I plug it in, just to see what it shows on the screen is it ok?
My stock 2011 GT500 PP made 521whp the same dyno day another one made 522whp and a 2011 GT that made 374whp. I know the dyno is just a tool but Gale Banks says that drivetrain loss does not increase the more power you add. So if your power loss is 40whp when stock its going to be 40whp after a blower swap. Make sense?
Justin, thinking of making switch to gen3. I have same set up but with LTH and full exhaust and id1050s. What can I expect If I swap to gen3 with 2.8 pully and stock lower? Would be tuned for 91 thanks.
So i guys I have the 14 gt500 I bought your Gen 3 with 2.4 thru Chris at Dyno Edge it made 839 -17psi e85 ID 1000s, jlt 123, and vmp twin67 tb, my question is without going to a lower pulley do I stand a chance in making a bit more power by going larger on the TB and the JLT? like your 160tb and jlt148?
Old comment but yes it will def make more power with the same pulley setup with larger tbody and intake. These blowers (any positive displacement blower) hates inlet restrictions and will see gains with larger tbodies and the 123 jlt is known to support up to 800ish so at your power level you would see gains with the larger one imo.
Now that is funny shit saying stock blower would only make around 550-560 at most friend of mine made 580/585 stock blower 10 psi, vmp 2.4 upper, stock lower, jlt, cat delete stock 13-14 mufflers, 93 Oct.
@VMPPerformance Just checking in, was wondering, have you guys been able to run anymore testing? Have you looked at using the 149MM PMAS, with the donkey dick sleeve, from 1320 Junkie performance, with the 173MM throttle body?
Hey Justin, I have an 11 with a 2.8 on a trinity, no cats steeda exhaust, 56's, VMP TB, JLT intake and a 10% lower. BJ did an awesome job on my email tune/road data log but the last couple of months my tr7's are getting eaten up.. like the tip will burn off after 3 hard pulls. Not even getting 300 miles out of the plugs. Any ideas?? I've ran the brisk's he recommended a while back and it's the same thing. Mostly to the plugs on the left side. Thanks
what would you suggest in mods to make the car streetable and be able to handle vettes and hellcats and maybe nissans little v6 monster i have a 10gt500 would you make a do it your selfer vid on blower and fuel pump changes LASTLY would a intercooler improve performance enough to warrent changing tyvm
Hey Perry, the intercooler up front needs to be upgraded, but the one under the blower works fine. We are actually working on that video right now, but it basically starts out with something like the VMP JLT123 kit: www.vmpperformance.com/07-12-Shelby-GT500-Custom-SCT-X4-JLT-123MM-Plasti-p/gt500jlt123pak.htm
Awesome work...REALLY dumb question. Is the gen 3 the new 2.65Liter blower? Also. If you strap the gen 3 with same exact condions on a 2013 5.8 as here how much higher would the #'s be? Do the 13,14's have that much more potential or is it just that they come with better stock blowers. Thanks guys.
Hey, the stock 13-14 blower is a 2.3l tvs, but the engine is also larger displacement and has slightly better cams. Compared to the results we've seen so far from the gen3 on 5.4l, I would expect another 30-50rwhp on a 5.8l.
I have a 2011 GT 500, it’s pretty much stock with the exception of a K&N Air filter, it looks to me like it still has the stock silencer on it though. I want to add the vmp gen3r but it will have to wait a while due to cost. My main question is in the meantime would it be a waste of money to do a pulley swap with tune and do I need to change the k&n air filter out for a JLT? Basically I know I’m eventually going to end up with a Vmp gen3r, But I want to make more power now but I don’t wanna waste a bunch of money in doing it. It’s my understanding from watching a few of these videos but if I do the pulley swap with a tune and the cold air intake with a catless Exhaust system I should then be somewhere close to 600 rwhp?
Hi James! We have a few different options available for the GT500, including pulley/tune power packs. Depending on which you select, the JLT will be reusable with your eventual upgrade to the Gen3R. An example would be our Pulley/X4/Tune/Idler/JLT package for the 07-12 GT500. That'll net you a healthy gain close to your stated 600rwhp figure and the JLT will be functional with the eventual Gen3R upgrade.
I'm really considering going VMP gen 3 for my 2011. But I'm very hesitant on it because of the stock bottom end. Have you ever had any catastrophic failures with this set-up?
We have made good power on a lot of stock short blocks with this combo. Andrew from Mustang Lifestyle has our Gen3R on his GT500 and is making good power with it. With good gas and a good tune you can be safe on a stock engine but there is no true way to tell if or when your engine may let go.
@@VMPPerformanceTV I like the deal. Ive had various tuners tell me the 5.4's generally give way bottom end wise at around 700+ I wouldn't mind taking leap of faith if the blocks weren't in short supply these days ☹️
@@robertmcdonough2203 you just gotta make sure you use the best fuel/tune available and you should be fine at 700 wheel. Trying to be too aggressive for the fuel ran is many times what causes failure and another thing on these engines is rpm. Just keep it under 6200 you should be fine from what ive heard. Rpms kill these motors quicker than all out power does so just be careful there and run good fuel and tuning and you should be good
Hi, see the boost curves at the bottom of this image: cdn.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2018/03/stock-2012-shelby-gt500-blasts-out-800-hp-with-gen3-tvs-blower-2018-03-21_15-28-12_323607.jpg
Long tubes, no-cat x-pipe, E85 so it can be driven as a daily with the good numbers, and return style fuel system. Has to be close to 900 with the correction factors!!!
Well, obviously exhaust in all different phases (axle backs, then full exhaust change with x pipe, then headers). I have that same exact car, but a convertible. Side note... You guys made a lot more HP with a basically stock 5.0 coyote. ???
Yea a coyote with 11:1 compression, alot more rpm and alot better fuel sure. It ain't that hard to make big power when you have a high compression and variable cam timing and 8000 rpm to help you out. That was car also had a full exhaust too which is a good difference at this flow level and power level.
Yes the entire car is stock including the full exhaust. It has a bigger heater changer plus the blower head unit itself along with intake and throttle body, injectors. The powdered forged rods aren't as good as the Rods that came in the 03-04 cobra but they're still pretty stout for stock these things have made up to 800+ rwhp on stock bottom ends many many times some even higher even when racing the car. They aren't quite made of glass like some would have you to beleive.
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I put your Gen2R (800 hp kit) into my ‘09 5.4 and kept both, a very modest VMP 93 tune (asked for by me), and conservative 2.5 upper and stock lower. Added Dynatech LT and X-pipe and made 660whp. Scary fast! Well done VMP!
love it!!! I can watch this all day long. I would do some long tubes with and x pipe. maybe some nsr cams. then do the lower pulley and send it!!!
That gen 3 with JDM Super Stock cams, long tube headers and upgraded rods should hit very close to 1000 reliably. Definitely know what path my 2011 GT500 is taking now. Nice job VMP
Ya one thousand horsepower is just headers and a cam swap away...
Jdm cams are garbage, l&m are way better. A guy blew ruined his valves twice with a 5.4 gt500, because of the jdm cams. He switched to l&m never happened again
Thanks for not making me wait weeks to see the different upgrades and powwa gains..but yeah i would say throw some cams,full exhaust and stick to 93 octane or e85.
Love to see all the tests done again exactly as you did them in this segment, only change being long tube headers and 3” exhaust too the bumper 👍👍
No cam changes that’s way too much work for just about everyone that is looking for the power adder that’s pretty much a bolt on, for the advanced back yarder 😝
One of the best Videos from you guys so far! Very interesting to see the different mods work.
Great car, great company! VMP has done so much for the GT500!
Thanks for watching!
This is true! I dug out an old issue of mm&ff magazine since i have tons of them still dating all the way back to 2000 lol....anyways in this particular issue i cant remember exactly when it was somewhere between 2009 and 2011 i think...justin was in the dyno shootout with his old red and white 07 gt500 it made like 740 rwhp with an early version of the tvs blower, so cool. Theyve came a long ways since then the blowers just get better and better the gen3r is insane
Justin's parts are no joke. Saved up and built my GT500 off this video with a few minor changes (3R/Twin69). Made similar numbers but stopped at 700 wheel for longevity and staying with 93 octane. I'm set up with return fuel for E85 but the car is insane at this level just driving around on the street.
Thanks Tin Star!
Are u on a 2.8 pulley or a 2.6
@@VMPPerformanceTVI have a 2012 Shelby gt500 with all the same mods and like he said the only difference is I have a 69mm Throttle body I’m wondering what fuel pumps did you go with for e and or what do you think I’m making
Awesome video VMP team 👌🏻
I love it that the car is mostly stock really inspiring as I'm planning on buying an 11 or 12 this year
man i have a gen 2 vmp and it makes my 08 a terror on the streets . i love it . great work you guys are doing .
Brother I love your shop and content! Your products are even better! Im currently saving like a madman to get the gen3 for my Mach 1 with an aluminator 5.0 stroker with 8.6:1CR. I think the GT500 should have some nice pistons and rods with thermal coating and a lubricating coating, at leaste thats what Id do to the engine, some headers and a return fuel system and your gonna be driving a 900rwhp+ daily driver lol! Cant wait to see whats next to come on your channel and thanks for taking the time to make these videos, I cant get enough HP, or shows about it lol. Ill go ahead and say it, this is the best manufactures personal channel, everyone else is hiding behind the camera or way too professional anout what they are doing. You make your company seem so down to earth and approachable. Before I subscribed to your channel I was set on a PD blower, but that thought is long gone, roots is where its at for a daily driver and yours are the best on the market! Thanks again and I cant wait to watch some more!
Awesome, Christian. Thanks for the feedback! We're happy to help you out, when you're ready.
VMPPerformance I will definitely be in touch when the overtime picks up lol. Thank you for responding!
That was very fun to watch. Full exhaust would be awesome.
Those are some crazy numbers for a 5.4l. Good work.
Same as last setup. Just add full exhaust & a 148 JLT intake
Well, when I do get a GT500, I’ll be giving you a call!!!
Wooo! Can't wait!
@@VMPPerformanceTV hey Justin where does the ticking sounds come from at a idle is it the injectors? Please help it worries me seems like it happens at operation temp. It's a steady tick tick tick... Is that just a 5.4 thing?
@@jtee582 it depends on where the tick is coming from. But a very light and consistent tick from the injectors is not uncommon, as they're opening and closing on each combustion cycle.
Should’ve done a test with the 160 tb and race gas with the gen2r
I put a whipple 2.9 on my 2011 should have looked in your VMP 3 if had been out when I did the change. Was really impressed with JDjoyrides car after.
Guess you didn't look hard enough as VMP has been setting the Mustang world on fire with their 2.3L TVS for about a decade now. Look at what this VMP 2.3L did to these 4.0L+ twin screws. ruclips.net/video/0Fy3LPVPNuQ/видео.html
@@Sir.VicsMasher without argument that the 2.3 & 2650 are great blowers but when push comes to push dont mess with the 4.0+ blowers I'll run any 2.3 or 2.650 blower vs my gen2 4.5 whipple. I might post numbers might not not sure. Hp isnt everything it's just a factor, gears, tune, driver,weight,tires. When I see a 2.3 or 2.650 make 1250-1400rwhp on blower only I'll be interested. Both great products not bashing at all I'd like to see a larger 3+ tvs
@@mmoya1012 Just to let you know a new gen 3r made 1290whp on a 13 or 14 gt500.😉
@@karlhopkins713 that is true but that is a max effort build. Max effort engine & blower 4.5+ blowers start getting serious 1400-1700rwhp. But respect is due where it is due I am liking that 2.650 great blower no arguing that. I'd like to run significant power without the stress of over spinning things to the moon. That's the main reason I picked the 4.5 whipple although it might be a little harder on the crank snout. Which is was my main concern
Hopefully a billet crank will solve that
@@mmoya1012 He's not even on the smallest pulley and not even on race gas. So there is more room for more power.
Awesome videos i love seeing these videos and i have a supercharged 05 but really want a shelby and good to see there is so much power to make on these even the older ones keep up the awesome work
Would love to see this car again with full exhaust and different lower pulley
Soon, soon
Exhaust has to be choking it , same last setup and tune but with full exhaust .....what goes in must come out !
Thanks, Jeff! ~Kerrie
VMPPerformance , yeah I think gotta do exhaust and then show what car is capable of before having to do return style fuel . Being a basically stock car and 5.8 , that makes me want a GT500 with a 4r200 conversion . I'm sure return-style and E85 at pump would get same results !
Oh yeah, you can see it in the torque numbers. Youd probably gain at least 30 or so just from an off road H or X pipe. I get the feeling this setup would come alive with headers.
Yes, LT headers, x or h pipe and a good catback setup should really help that car breathe! Great video guys!!
Zexhaust is a must end of story and not that small bullshit 1-7/8 headers it needs 2" headers to 3.5 collector. This blower is capillary of a lot more power then they have shown they don't really push it at all
Great vid and build, the new blower is doing work!
Agree with many others, long tubes / full exhaust.
E85 vs C16 / fuel system
Awesome video. I learned good stuff.
I wish there was some tuning out there like this for my 98 Cobra. Very limited
Great video....I'd like to see the hellion twin turbo setup on the 2011-12 shelby...all stock
200 shot of the juice 💨💨
Nice gains
E85 vs c16?
Just made 839whp on 17psi Chris from DynoEdge Abq NM
VMP 🏁🏁🏁!!
Great video! I'd like to see E85 vs the C16 you used next
The supporting mods I’d like to see is a similar set up on my F150 LOL
Please do a dyno pull with a full exhaust and 93 octane!🤪
Awesome!!!
I would like to see a 2.4 upper with off road x pipe and 91/torco. Mostly because the cheap people that dont want to pay for full exhaust or racegas/e85 but want to take some advantages of a more free flowing exhaust/extra timing. I am also intrigued by how much boost will drop by to see how much restriction was freed up. I think 91 octane and torco tune would be nice to see on a Gen3. In a perfect world everyone would have E85 stations right next to them or didnt have to order barrels to keep in their garage.. however it seems to not be the case for most. :) Hopefully this idea intrigues you.
Monster
test with the 160 tb and race gas with the gen2r also exhaust
My God how much can these stock internals take!?
And when are we going to see a 2003 2004 terminator with Gen 3
Any chance you can show what it would be running with e85?
Good question.
bump the timing up 3-4 degree (y) they will more likely need to upgrade their entire fuel system just to run e85
Big numbers are awesome as long as drive ability remains good. What will be the ultimate purpose of the car? Daily driver occasionally at the track? Awesome job, by the way. Excellent content😎
That's bad ass !!!!! I'm going to buy a gen 2R for my S550 . I think you should put on long tube headers & full exhaust . If I run 93 octane, and add a bottle of torco would that work ?
Ya awesome unit but want to see you take on GEN 3 Whipple 2.9 crusher on a 2004 cobra or your Gt500
I'm in the market for a 2012 gt500 and I'd really like to get into the 850hp to 900 hp range can you guys give me a estimate on how much it would cost ?
How soon till you add the 170mm Mono Blade Throttle Body?
I'll check on that, but I believe the 173mm is primarily for race applications. ~ Kerrie
VMPPerformance okay it's for race but we need to see the gain of it
@VMPPerformance
Just checking in, was wondering, have you guys been able to run anymore testing?
Have you looked at using the 149MM PMAS, with the donkey dick sleeve, with the 173MM throttle body?
Let’s see some long tubes, no cats and a return style fuel system. Put some race fuel in and pulley down farther.
How far can you go on 93 octane? I have a gen 2 VMP and I make 683rwhp. Going bigger pump and some ID1000 injectors so I’m not maxing the fuel system
when will this be available for the s550?
THATS SOME GREAT NUMBERS!!! OFF ROAD X PIPE WITH SOME CORSA XTREME EXAUST NXT!!!👌🔥🔥🔥
My tuner is set for 92/93 octane. If I pour in a little octane booster into my tank, will I see a quicker car? I like your shirt can I get one of those?
Hey Joe, no, it needs to be tuned for it.
VMPPerformance
Hi
Just bought the car with your tuner. Can I make the change myself or would I have to send to you?
If I plug it in, just to see what it shows on the screen is it ok?
Chief Joe give us a call to order additional tunes 321 206 9369
Any updates on your car? That kinda power for such minimal modification is really impressive!
Soon!
I have an identical 2012 gt500 what clutch did you put in it
How much power for our residents that can only get 91 Octane?
YEHAAA!!!
170mm TB any extra gains at the same setup?
Next
Would like to see with LTH OFF-ROAD and cams
Great vid VMP, I have the same year Shelby and would like to start with the same package. What kind of gains would exhaust do for this setup?
Thanks
My stock 2011 GT500 PP made 521whp the same dyno day another one made 522whp and a 2011 GT that made 374whp. I know the dyno is just a tool but Gale Banks says that drivetrain loss does not increase the more power you add. So if your power loss is 40whp when stock its going to be 40whp after a blower swap. Make sense?
Long tube headers, new 3” stainless with whatever good choice of a muffler
Have 09 Shelby super snake want same kit everything you put on 2012 Shelby my 09 only has 30,000 miles
Hi Darren, email us at sales@vmpperformance.com and our sales team will put together a quote for you and get the process started!
Justin, thinking of making switch to gen3. I have same set up but with LTH and full exhaust and id1050s. What can I expect If I swap to gen3 with 2.8 pully and stock lower? Would be tuned for 91 thanks.
Hi, around 700rwhp.
Loooove that mustang!!! Droooool!
Thanks!
So i guys I have the 14 gt500 I bought your Gen 3 with 2.4 thru Chris at Dyno Edge it made 839 -17psi e85 ID 1000s, jlt 123, and vmp twin67 tb, my question is without going to a lower pulley do I stand a chance in making a bit more power by going larger on the TB and the JLT? like your 160tb and jlt148?
Old comment but yes it will def make more power with the same pulley setup with larger tbody and intake. These blowers (any positive displacement blower) hates inlet restrictions and will see gains with larger tbodies and the 123 jlt is known to support up to 800ish so at your power level you would see gains with the larger one imo.
Long tubes off road h pipe. Fore fuel system (return-less). Injectors e85 tune. Aluminum driveshaft.
I have a 12 gt500 I just bought with 6000 miles. I want that gen 3 set up so bad... need any cars in Texas to sponcer..pick me pick me!
Now that is funny shit saying stock blower would only make around 550-560 at most friend of mine made 580/585 stock blower 10 psi, vmp 2.4 upper, stock lower, jlt, cat delete stock 13-14 mufflers, 93 Oct.
Yeah ive seen 600 whp before a ported blower.
Mantic twin or triple disc clutch install?
@VMPPerformance
Just checking in, was wondering, have you guys been able to run anymore testing?
Have you looked at using the 149MM PMAS, with the donkey dick sleeve, from 1320 Junkie performance, with the 173MM throttle body?
Justin the New shelby Needs a Gen 3.
Question is there any loss in HP after 80k miles on the engine? Did you guys check the compression on it or a leak down test to be reliable?
This is something we've studied quite a bit over the past 14yrs. The higher mileage cars will make 5-10rwhp more from being looser.
Hey Justin, I have an 11 with a 2.8 on a trinity, no cats steeda exhaust, 56's, VMP TB, JLT intake and a 10% lower. BJ did an awesome job on my email tune/road data log but the last couple of months my tr7's are getting eaten up.. like the tip will burn off after 3 hard pulls. Not even getting 300 miles out of the plugs. Any ideas?? I've ran the brisk's he recommended a while back and it's the same thing. Mostly to the plugs on the left side. Thanks
Hey, please reach out to us in a support ticket with a picture of the plugs.
what would you suggest in mods to make the car streetable and be able to handle vettes and hellcats and maybe nissans little v6 monster i have a 10gt500 would you make a do it your selfer vid on blower and fuel pump changes LASTLY would a intercooler improve performance enough to warrent changing tyvm
Hey Perry, the intercooler up front needs to be upgraded, but the one under the blower works fine. We are actually working on that video right now, but it basically starts out with something like the VMP JLT123 kit: www.vmpperformance.com/07-12-Shelby-GT500-Custom-SCT-X4-JLT-123MM-Plasti-p/gt500jlt123pak.htm
american racing headers with a nice cat back
Awesome work...REALLY dumb question. Is the gen 3 the new 2.65Liter blower? Also. If you strap the gen 3 with same exact condions on a 2013 5.8 as here how much higher would the #'s be? Do the 13,14's have that much more potential or is it just that they come with better stock blowers. Thanks guys.
Don Johnson yes it's the new 2.65
Hey, the stock 13-14 blower is a 2.3l tvs, but the engine is also larger displacement and has slightly better cams. Compared to the results we've seen so far from the gen3 on 5.4l, I would expect another 30-50rwhp on a 5.8l.
So the 5.8's aren't THAT much better...thanks for the response
Don Johnson there. Bigger they have better cams and I believe there heads flow better. The 5.8 is a better motor.
Thanks for all of the responses
Wonder how the Gen 3 is coming along for the Terminator....
Check out the burnout box from 3/29/18
When is the VMP ready for 2018 f150 ?
What about some octane boost or some water- methanol injection with this tuning set up other then race gas or e85
I have a 2011 GT 500, it’s pretty much stock with the exception of a K&N Air filter, it looks to me like it still has the stock silencer on it though. I want to add the vmp gen3r but it will have to wait a while due to cost. My main question is in the meantime would it be a waste of money to do a pulley swap with tune and do I need to change the k&n air filter out for a JLT? Basically I know I’m eventually going to end up with a Vmp gen3r, But I want to make more power now but I don’t wanna waste a bunch of money in doing it. It’s my understanding from watching a few of these videos but if I do the pulley swap with a tune and the cold air intake with a catless Exhaust system I should then be somewhere close to 600 rwhp?
Hi James! We have a few different options available for the GT500, including pulley/tune power packs. Depending on which you select, the JLT will be reusable with your eventual upgrade to the Gen3R. An example would be our Pulley/X4/Tune/Idler/JLT package for the 07-12 GT500. That'll net you a healthy gain close to your stated 600rwhp figure and the JLT will be functional with the eventual Gen3R upgrade.
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Awesome thank you. I will be in touch shortly
He next supporting mods I'd like to see is headers and a O/R X pipe or H, without a catback😎 and a bigger injector
I'm really considering going VMP gen 3 for my 2011. But I'm very hesitant on it because of the stock bottom end. Have you ever had any catastrophic failures with this set-up?
We have made good power on a lot of stock short blocks with this combo. Andrew from Mustang Lifestyle has our Gen3R on his GT500 and is making good power with it. With good gas and a good tune you can be safe on a stock engine but there is no true way to tell if or when your engine may let go.
@@VMPPerformanceTV I like the deal. Ive had various tuners tell me the 5.4's generally give way bottom end wise at around 700+ I wouldn't mind taking leap of faith if the blocks weren't in short supply these days ☹️
@@robertmcdonough2203 you just gotta make sure you use the best fuel/tune available and you should be fine at 700 wheel. Trying to be too aggressive for the fuel ran is many times what causes failure and another thing on these engines is rpm. Just keep it under 6200 you should be fine from what ive heard. Rpms kill these motors quicker than all out power does so just be careful there and run good fuel and tuning and you should be good
Justin it's 550 at crank not 540 😅
How much did everything cost?
Wow talk about hurting the feelings of some not all 80k demon owners
E85
Shot of giggle has?
Please let me know if you want to do a 2018 convertible roll cage install video!!😄
lets see 1000hp
Is this swap this easy on the 2014 GT500 ? I’ve heard they knock to much.
Could you list the boost numbers on the Gen2r with the 2.4, and then list or mention the boost number on the Gen3 with the 3.0 pulley please.
Hi, see the boost curves at the bottom of this image: cdn.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2018/03/stock-2012-shelby-gt500-blasts-out-800-hp-with-gen3-tvs-blower-2018-03-21_15-28-12_323607.jpg
Long tubes, no-cat x-pipe, E85 so it can be driven as a daily with the good numbers, and return style fuel system. Has to be close to 900 with the correction factors!!!
Corn is in our future!
You can try this with Mustang cobra 2003-2004 maybe can reach 800 hp to the wheels easy.
i want to see this done with an11-14 GT
I dig how this was done on a stock engine! How about exhaust cutouts like the GT350 has?
Not a bad idea @zac
Well, obviously exhaust in all different phases (axle backs, then full exhaust change with x pipe, then headers). I have that same exact car, but a convertible.
Side note... You guys made a lot more HP with a basically stock 5.0 coyote. ???
Yea a coyote with 11:1 compression, alot more rpm and alot better fuel sure. It ain't that hard to make big power when you have a high compression and variable cam timing and 8000 rpm to help you out. That was car also had a full exhaust too which is a good difference at this flow level and power level.
2015-2017 f150 V8 5.0!!!
Full Exhaust No cat and fuel system
How much is that system ??? For complete turn key?
www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-07-14-Shelby-GT500-GEN3R-2.65-L-TVS-950-HP-Kit
Does this help increase the top speed too?
Yes, more horsepower will definitely help increase the top speed.
Will the stock trans and clutch hold up?
Yes, the tr6060 is pretty stout. This car has 82k mi so the stock clutch was on the way out, we put a McLeod rxt in it.
Is this accomplished with the stock cracked power rods?
Yes the entire car is stock including the full exhaust. It has a bigger heater changer plus the blower head unit itself along with intake and throttle body, injectors. The powdered forged rods aren't as good as the Rods that came in the 03-04 cobra but they're still pretty stout for stock these things have made up to 800+ rwhp on stock bottom ends many many times some even higher even when racing the car. They aren't quite made of glass like some would have you to beleive.
Yah, how about exhaust??