CSX has been slowly pulling out their CW40-8's for awhile now and the SD70AC's have recently been going through shop rebuilds. Last year,the CW40-8's were randomly anywhere in Texas on UPRR manifests.
Nice catch of the WAYCROSS RAILYARD! And yes that's without a doubt a railroad fans dream right there! Thanks for sharing your videos and I'm viewing them from Delmar, Delaware.
WOW & I thought my HO Scale engine sets needed replacement parts! 😅 coincidence I have an G.E. DASH 840 engine in CSX about the same age as the proto type, rebuilding it to standards. Some other models I have are in the boxes awaiting to run by many manufacturers. Awesome videos 🤔maybe I need 7 sets of tracks on my layout. 🤣 I enjoyed viewing this video. 👋
Twenty years ago a NS engineer I met while working at The Great Train Store near Atlanta told me the same thing. Being a GE retiree I hate to hear that.
The pencil pushers could care less what engineers think. The GE s are slightly cheaper and have a better warranty program than EMD. Corporate doesn’t give a rat’s a** whether the crews like them or not. They’re just trying to make more money for the shareholders.
The small yard that U.P. has at Hastings, Nebraska filled up with locomotives after covid slowed the economy down. Been hoping to see the numbers start to dwindle, but no luck yet. I thought at first seeing the blue and white locomotives that it could be the old yard of Rock Island in the Quad Cities. There were still locos there when I left the area over thirty years ago. Any way you look at it, there is a good chunk of money represented in those yards.
Right at the beginning, bottom of the screen closest track on the right, CSX 7812 in some rusty and neglected YN2 pain is visible. This unit however once was “the spirit of America” which was used to pull President Bush on his campaign trail.
Well we do! There just lost engines that can’t be found unless you go to a short line railroad like Prlx or GECX but the majority of them are lost or scrapped so I see what your kinda saying!
If some of the locomotives 30 years old what about Australia because southern shorthaul railroad who uses gm class locos that are 70 years old and are still running in revenue service
I want buy some of the EMD and operate them in Indonesia with some of them regauged to 3ft 6in and some retain standard gauge for non-Java and non-Sumatran RR... I really want the old EMDs especially those who don't turboed...
Not to long ago I saw CSX 5106 (AC4400CW) Being capped which is going to this yard I saw, a bunch of there reactived dash 8's and dash 9's and sd70macs!
My favorite 6000hp GE locomotives out of all those other crappy 4000 to 4400hp locomotives the EPA is a bunch of punks. All they want is wimpy 4000 to 4400hp and those new battery powered craps
@@cody8217 to respond to what your question was the 4000 to 4400hp suck that's sissy hp I like the aggressive chug of the AC6000s better than the chug in those punny looking locos
@@cody8217 it could also be because they weren't being taken care of properly and the biggest mistake GE made when they designed these Big beast is they didn't put a 20 cylinder engine in none of these beast they probably would of lasted a lot longer. I don't know I just like the duel exhaust smoke stacks better than the single ones that's just me.
I was actually in Wyoming not too long ago and i got to see the BNSF dead line near powder basin. Got to see a lot of their older locomotives that weren't fully painted and a few smurfs.
I know they use the rail locomotives to go out to other companies that can not afford new locomotives and get them to a company that can always lend lease programs for them out switcher locomotives and big locomotives as well for the other mainline work projects as well to another railroad branch line as well besides part out for other railroad garages and shops as well
It looks like excess inventory to me. I suppose some of these engines could be sold directly to smaller lines or traded to rebuilders for rehabbed stock, but I'll bet a lot of them will end up in the dumpster. Sad, but inevitable.
They’ll make a good sized type of comeback once my oldest son buys up enough CSX stock in order to get enough of these locomotives restored to working order on a full-time basis, and we’re even planning to turn the old brickyard in Olive Hill, Kentucky, into a repair and restoration shop. However, most of the older looking ones will probably be given the old Chessie System paint scheme with the B&O, C&O, and WM lettering on them since they’ll be used to transport future cotton crops from eastern Kentucky to the international market in Memphis, Tennessee, in years to come.
Will have to check out their yards, just in case. However, Waycross as well as the yard in Lordstown, Ohio and Knoxville, Tennessee, will require a slightly higher priority as well as one individual locomotive in Athens, Georgia.
Actually, it’s one of the older units that’s still functioning, but as soon as possible, it’ll be transported to Kentucky where the entire exterior will be completed repainted using the old Chessie System paint scheme.
I worked for General Electric .. (Now Wabtec) in Erie Pennsylvania…. ALL of those loco’s are either scrap or too inefficient to justify fixing them. It’s a boneyard just like airplanes have, its just a machine and they don’t last forever.
That's not always the full story... Some of these railroads will put them into storage just to tamper with them later if a power shortage comes about.Also,there's the obvious taxing with each unit that's active on the roster. When there's too many units that aren't all needed,it's better to hoard them in storage than pay galores in taxes for extra power. Also,most of the time these units will be scrapped if any frame damage has been done but when it does become cheaper to scrap than to process any rebuild program,so be it. I will personally that I'm sure a good amount of those GE units will end up becoming part of a rebuild program due to their massive control on the market. For those EMD units? It's very debated... I'm sure the old units might find usage elsewhere,but the modern units aren't always favored...
Im really trying to figure out the CSX locomotive numbered 6473 wich was involved in a runaway crash, can you try and do reserch on it? If yes that thanks
Only most of the older ones without the really high up type cabs will need the old Chessie System paint scheme; only after my oldest son has bought enough CSX stock via Wall Street to get the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission), or whatever they call themselves nowadays, to grant a new charter for the Chessie System, and ending its fallen flag status. Ofcourse, CSX itself under the circumstances of the dilemma, will have to relocate its headquarters for the corporate offices from Cleveland, Ohio, to either Colorado Springs, Colorado, or El Paso, Texas, especially since we will no longer tolerate the ‘C’ in CSX to stand for Chessie nor will we have the ‘S’ in CSX standing for Seaboard while the ‘X’ that still doesn’t stand for anything presently will from now on after being relocated west of the Mississippi River, the ‘C’ in CSX from now on will stand for Colorado with the ‘S’ standing for Springs, and the ‘X’ standing for Texas, which is what it rightfully deserves to stand for regardless of the circumstances of the dilemma. Ofcourse, the Chessie System will have brand new corporate headquarters in Louisville, Kentucky. Other railroads that presently are under the fallen flag status will have to be bought up, which includes the full scale restoration of miles of right-of-ways being undertaken. Furthermore, the 1972 law passed by the Nixon administration that allows railroads to give up the rights to their money losing lines will have to be repealed in order to encourage more manufacturers to build more factories and warehouses and storage facilities nearer to the train tracks because you can’t always rely on the trucking industry nor aircraft, and the same thing goes for maritime vessels using inland waterways that go underneath certain bridges built with taxpayer dollars. So basically in other words, what we have in mind is the possible resurrection of a business from its present fallen flag status, and if it requires it, and Heaven knows that it will, we’ll petition every congressional leader in this nation to return the 1934 Gold Reserve Act of FDR back into federal law.
It's not weird...Every Class 1 has been doing that for awhile. Wabtec/GE has always been more technologically advanced than EMD has within the last couple of decades. Aside from microprocessors,they build reliable traction motors and overall better electronics and software. The biggest downfalls to EMD,besides EPA regulations,was the mistake of manufacturing the SD90MAC's and SD70AH-T4's...Nobody liked them. Once modern EMD units hit their mark,it's better to either retire,store,or outright scrap them because of costs and strict emissions testing.EMD being two stroke also make them more gussler on fuel,even though easy to work on. The only EMD units that might be left in the future are the GP40-2's,SD40-2's,SW1500's,and MP15DC's/AC's even if it's local. The only good of modern EMD units is that the traction loads quicker and they won't catch on fire like any GE unit.
a very VERY small minority of those engines are bought by a small operation that runs in eastern Washington and restored or refitted. I know of at least 6 former CSX locos and more show up yearly.
Solid evidence that trucks are taking over the frieght hauling business. Less costly, more efficient & more flexible. It is just a matter of time. A very short amount of time!
Trucks have been touted to replace the railroads for the last 70 years. If you were right, it would’ve happened by now. We’re still gonna need railroads
And the ones at 30 to 40 years of age will be given the old Chessie System paint scheme for the purposes of things, for example, hauling future cotton crops from eastern Kentucky to the international market in Memphis, Tennessee. Now, although we see no older GG1s among these locomotives, eventually we’ll find as many as possible to restore, not for inner city traveling of passengers, but rather for hauling Kentucky bituminous to the steel mills in cities like Toledo, Youngstown, and Cleveland, just to name a few.
Being built like a tank or battleship; theoretically the locomotive platforms will last indefinitely if it is not in a wreck, fire, or rust out. All those platforms in the video could be updated and modernized to any type of propulsion. You know the cars that ship CNG or propane? I'd like to see a diesel loco converted over to gas and plumbed into one of those cars being used as a fuel tank. Or repower an engine to run off ethanol or put a CNG turbine onboard to drive a generator like they use at the power plants. Take a stack of Tesla car batteries or put them on a flat car and wire it up. Just some ideas.
And yet, even if it takes the entire Kennedy fortunes to do so, a lot of them will be restored to working order, and hauling Kentucky grown cotton to the international cotton market in Memphis.
They are prob the highest of milaged locos that are first to be set aside in what it seems is always an unstable economy. Not sure whose to blame for playing games with our lives like that for a quick buck. EMD is a product of General motors and we all know GM makes American muscle cars with gas guzzling V8s. Also, GM also has a history of dismantling railroad systems in the USA. I am always curious why EMD has faded away and GE took over.
General Motors sold out EMD in 2005 after EPA regulations became more serious and after what happened with the SD90MAC's,which were their first four stroke units including the SD89MX. Those units were the result of poor engineering and development. EMD always being two stroke inevitably made them impossible to uphold into modern emissions testing.The same thing happened with Detroit Diesel. GE has always been much more technologically advanced than EMD in more ways than one.However,Wabtec now owns right to GE's locomotive production and they both have built traction motors for them as well as the software that all modern units have. GE units have stronger tractive effort and reliable dynamic braking,they are the best for serious freight and where grades are present.Modern EMD units lack these features,but traction loads quicker and they are great for switching so there's that.When GE acquired ALCO,they based the 7FDL's on the 251's which is also why there has been mechanical unreliability because back in the day EMD was much more reliable than ALCO in many ways.But,with the motors being four stroke it obviously makes them easily compliant with tier four regulations.There is nothing wrong with any EMD 567,645,or 710 series but those motors have heavy carbon footprint and are thirsty on diesel. EMD units are slowly fading away from mainline usage,probably the only units that will be left are the GP40-2's & SD40-2's due to their incredible longevity and widespread distribution.There will still be many EMD units around for shortlines and industries,but GE units will eventually take over Class 1 service. Wabtec/GE has been taking over for awhile now and they have been less costly than EMD while they've been declining on business except for stationary and marine apparatus where the EPA is irrelevant. Greenbriar Berkshire nearly crumbled EMD but then Caterpillar became their parent company.Ironically,they also are under serious pressure with the EPA. The last series of SD70ACE's were much better in quality but then they made mistakes with the SD70AH-T4's which are disliked just like the SD90MAC's that they were based on from the start. Honestly,the biggest problems towards EMD is the EPA and their outdated electronics.It was good for a short time on rebuilds that they finally discontinued business with Simens and had a partnership with Mitsubishi.
The EPA was an invention of the Nixon administration, but now it’s going beyond its limitations, and either needs someone in congress to be a watchdog over it, or just disband it altogether.
Hey cxs if you keep one there that's out of service and it's reached the end of its service life I gladly take one I am a train nerd I would gladly take one if I have a room
Nice video well done I did see carpetbagger on RUclips did a video on a bunch of engines in the desert in Arizona check that one out but again good job my friend I gave you a like and share it on Twitter and Facebook
30 years old pfff...we have locos that are over 70 years old and still used throughout our railway network. These locos are NZ Railway "Dc" class ex "Da" class
I’ll buy and have them donated to a Shortline railroad I own and I will drive it and I’ll restore some Diesel Locomotives just like I do with steam locomotives.
Imagine if you were rich, and had a huge amount of land like Michael Jackson's Ranch, and could set up a big loop of standard gauge track and purchase an old engine like one of these. Just spend the day running it back and forth for hours. I imagine lots of FRA regulations and red tape to go through, but I wonder if technically it's possible. Imagine having your own Dash 9, and connecting a nice K5 rebuilt horn
Again, I say, this is a dump of expired equipment. Upper management would rather not spend the money dealing with them to keep up their profitability up now and get their bonus pay. Money in their pocket now vs pushing a cost off to the future. Making them somebody else's problem.
As God as my witness, anyone who tries to turn so much as one individual locomotive into a batch of new Hyundai Sonatas is obviously in cahoots with the bureaucrats in Pyongyang.
@V12 Productions GREAT Video, It's A Shame All Of These Locomotives Are Just Sitting There In Waycross, GA You Can Blame PSR For That. Also, CSX Has Trouble Finding Crews To Run Trains. Additionally, While This Is CSX'S Largest Yard, Some Of Norfolk Southern's Yards Are Larger, And Eventually Union Pacific's Bailey Yard.
@@v12productions You're Welcome, Also Union Pacific's Bailey Yard Is The Largest Rail Yard In The World. Not Covered In My Previous Comment, But Additionally, I'm Sure BNSF As Well As CN And CP Have Some Pretty Decent Sized Yards.
Modifying an old locomotive to be PTC compliant AND DPU capable is expensive. It's more likely they will gut them and then roll the hulks down the road to the scrapper right there by the diamond you filmed at the last frame of your video. I have seen lots of old U-boats go through the chopper there over the past 22+ years.
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No matter how short or long a video you make, its always enjoyable and informative
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
@@v12productions you should check out Galveston railyard it has santa fe units and BN units
@@v12productions though the Galveston yard is in Texas I thought you could atleast talk about it
@01:35 GE locomotives never fail to disappoint with their burned paint show that locomotive suffered an engine fire in its history.
You hit the nail on the head. A majority of the locomotives here are a direct result of PSR.
I feel like the reason so many sit on the side lines of any railroad is due to poor maintenance and care or the equipment like so many companies do.
I heard CSX reactivated a few Dash 8’s and 9’s, still a few flared SD70MACs in service. Pretty sure freight traffic is rising again.
I can confirm, I saw a 70mac the other day. Shoulda taken a photo of it, I was not expecting it to say the least.
@@ProLGL I’ve seen 5 MAC’s lately, 2 on one train. This is all in southern Kentucky.
CSX has been slowly pulling out their CW40-8's for awhile now and the SD70AC's have recently been going through shop rebuilds.
Last year,the CW40-8's were randomly anywhere in Texas on UPRR manifests.
As of now, I believe CSX rebuild most of their flared SD70MACs.
@@railroadfanaticproductionsWhy not none or all?
Nice catch of the WAYCROSS RAILYARD! And yes that's without a doubt a railroad fans dream right there! Thanks for sharing your videos and I'm viewing them from Delmar, Delaware.
Thanks for watching!
2:06 Nice Spirit of Lousiville
Well, I know I’m getting old when I see locomotives I photographed brand new (some still in gray primer!) retired and sitting on the dead lines.
There are a lot also in the Cumberland yard In Maryland.
@1:51, at the bottom left, you can see one of CSX's rare ex-EMD demo GP60 units!
WOW & I thought my HO Scale engine sets needed replacement parts! 😅 coincidence I have an G.E. DASH 840 engine in CSX about the same age as the proto type, rebuilding it to standards. Some other models I have are in the boxes awaiting to run by many manufacturers. Awesome videos 🤔maybe I need 7 sets of tracks on my layout. 🤣 I enjoyed viewing this video. 👋
Thanks for watching!
@@v12productions .save them
From the title yes
Wow
1:05 you can see a number board on the nose
Looks like Galveston, TX rail yard. About 175 to 200 Santa Fe, Union Pacific, BNSF locomotives. Just rusting away.
I was told by a CSX engineer that the engineers are getting sick of GE so more EMD leaders for us foamers!
Interesting!
Engineers dont get to decide that.
Twenty years ago a NS engineer I met while working at The Great Train Store near Atlanta told me the same thing.
Being a GE retiree I hate to hear that.
The pencil pushers could care less what engineers think. The GE s are slightly cheaper and have a better warranty program than EMD. Corporate doesn’t give a rat’s a** whether the crews like them or not. They’re just trying to make more money for the shareholders.
GE sold their locomotive business to WabTec (the makers of the DPU software) out of Pittsburgh 3 years ago. Massive improvements incoming.
Love 🚂 since I was born now I'm 43 still love watching 🚂 videos and seeing them
It’s all PSR. Wait till there’s another traffic boom
Cool! That last clip of the video has CSX 12, the Spirit of Louisville. That storage yard would be incredible to see in person!
glad im not the only one who saw that
The small yard that U.P. has at Hastings, Nebraska filled up with locomotives after covid slowed the economy down. Been hoping to see the numbers start to dwindle, but no luck yet. I thought at first seeing the blue and white locomotives that it could be the old yard of Rock Island in the Quad Cities. There were still locos there when I left the area over thirty years ago. Any way you look at it, there is a good chunk of money represented in those yards.
Awesome video.
Thanks!
That’s what precision railroading brings. In my UP yard there are hundreds
Right at the beginning, bottom of the screen closest track on the right, CSX 7812 in some rusty and neglected YN2 pain is visible. This unit however once was “the spirit of America” which was used to pull President Bush on his campaign trail.
Wow, I never noticed that. Cool!
@@v12productionsHow many are there?
Was that in the 1988 or the 1992 election year?
Is this why we don’t see dash 8s on class one railroads anymore they all go to places like this
Well we do! There just lost engines that can’t be found unless you go to a short line railroad like Prlx or GECX but the majority of them are lost or scrapped so I see what your kinda saying!
Okay, but what about locomotives that are still active? Where are they stored?
I miss those C44W and C40
If some of the locomotives 30 years old what about Australia because southern shorthaul railroad who uses gm class locos that are 70 years old and are still running in revenue service
Too bad that the Australian based railroads aren’t sticking to using European type locomotives when their railroads were originally built.
I want buy some of the EMD and operate them in Indonesia with some of them regauged to 3ft 6in and some retain standard gauge for non-Java and non-Sumatran RR...
I really want the old EMDs especially those who don't turboed...
I remember when those dash 8's (7700 - 7800 series) were new roaming the north Atlanta sub (Smyrna, Marietta, Kennesaw & Acworth.)
Imagine seeing these trains at a railroad crossing every single one lined up😳
Not to long ago I saw
CSX 5106 (AC4400CW) Being capped which is going to this yard
I saw, a bunch of there reactived dash 8's and dash 9's and sd70macs!
Love your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Very Fascinating! I love those SD-70'S!
This is completely nuts!
why are they not being used or recycled?
Interesting video with a boat load of facts.! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
What happan the cxd before years?
So those are old csx engines they don't use anymore
The 600 series were the best and the most fun to run. 6000 HP pulling 10-12,000 feet of intermodal without breaking a sweat…
My favorite 6000hp GE locomotives out of all those other crappy 4000 to 4400hp locomotives the EPA is a bunch of punks. All they want is wimpy 4000 to 4400hp and those new battery powered craps
If was a railroad engineer I'd take the GE AC6000s any day.
@@terrencegoodwin446 why? So you could spend all day sitting there broke down? They were junk.
@@cody8217 to respond to what your question was the 4000 to 4400hp suck that's sissy hp I like the aggressive chug of the AC6000s better than the chug in those punny looking locos
@@cody8217 it could also be because they weren't being taken care of properly and the biggest mistake GE made when they designed these Big beast is they didn't put a 20 cylinder engine in none of these beast they probably would of lasted a lot longer. I don't know I just like the duel exhaust smoke stacks better than the single ones that's just me.
I was actually in Wyoming not too long ago and i got to see the BNSF dead line near powder basin. Got to see a lot of their older locomotives that weren't fully painted and a few smurfs.
looks like a locomotive cementary
Waycross!
Here is a question, Are you going to Western Maryland to see the 1309 pull its first train full of passengers up to Frostburg Md?
There is another huge yard of locomotives near Lordstown OH. You can mapquest it, just a little north of Lordstown on rt 45.
I know they use the rail locomotives to go out to other companies that can not afford new locomotives and get them to a company that can always lend lease programs for them out switcher locomotives and big locomotives as well for the other mainline work projects as well to another railroad branch line as well besides part out for other railroad garages and shops as well
It looks like excess inventory to me. I suppose some of these engines could be sold directly to smaller lines or traded to rebuilders for rehabbed stock, but I'll bet a lot of them will end up in the dumpster. Sad, but inevitable.
I hope these are all coming back
They’ll make a good sized type of comeback once my oldest son buys up enough CSX stock in order to get enough of these locomotives restored to working order on a full-time basis, and we’re even planning to turn the old brickyard in Olive Hill, Kentucky, into a repair and restoration shop.
However, most of the older looking ones will probably be given the old Chessie System paint scheme with the B&O, C&O, and WM lettering on them since they’ll be used to transport future cotton crops from eastern Kentucky to the international market in Memphis, Tennessee, in years to come.
Are these locos still there?
Sd70s are getting rebuilt.
Rebuild them so you don’t have to fuck with the emissions
0:56 cool jordan spreader they have
I prefer the rotary types thanks.
Same in Galveston tx
Will have to check out their yards, just in case.
However, Waycross as well as the yard in Lordstown, Ohio and Knoxville, Tennessee, will require a slightly higher priority as well as one individual locomotive in Athens, Georgia.
Heartbreaking in it's own way.......
Very interesting 👍👍😎🇺🇸
How many locomotives exactly are stored in Waycross Georgia?
Could these some or all of engines be scrapped and recycled? What a waste of steel.
What are they going to do with those locomotives?
I'm guessing to scrap them
Nice! The BNSF SD60M “Great Pumpkin” is Stored at the Yard Close to Me.
Love it!
The third engine on the train you saw was a Heritage Unit
Actually, it’s one of the older units that’s still functioning, but as soon as possible, it’ll be transported to Kentucky where the entire exterior will be completed repainted using the old Chessie System paint scheme.
May I just say, screw precision scheduled railroading?
I worked for General Electric .. (Now Wabtec) in Erie Pennsylvania…. ALL of those loco’s are either scrap or too inefficient to justify fixing them. It’s a boneyard just like airplanes have, its just a machine and they don’t last forever.
That's not always the full story...
Some of these railroads will put them into storage just to tamper with them later if a power shortage comes about.Also,there's the obvious taxing with each unit that's active on the roster.
When there's too many units that aren't all needed,it's better to hoard them in storage than pay galores in taxes for extra power.
Also,most of the time these units will be scrapped if any frame damage has been done but when it does become cheaper to scrap than to process any rebuild program,so be it.
I will personally that I'm sure a good amount of those GE units will end up becoming part of a rebuild program due to their massive control on the market.
For those EMD units? It's very debated...
I'm sure the old units might find usage elsewhere,but the modern units aren't always favored...
Only lack of proper maintenance keeps them where they are presently, and if you can’t remember that simple fact, then you have bats 🦇 in your belfry.
Some engines dont have to much rasty. But why dont sell this engines to other countries? And the another for scrap.
Im really trying to figure out the CSX locomotive numbered 6473 wich was involved in a runaway crash, can you try and do reserch on it? If yes that thanks
I would love to see that locomotive yard man I'm diggin your videos thanks for the info
I hope they are saved
so those engines need a paint job very impressive collection
Only most of the older ones without the really high up type cabs will need the old Chessie System paint scheme; only after my oldest son has bought enough CSX stock via Wall Street to get the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission), or whatever they call themselves nowadays, to grant a new charter for the Chessie System, and ending its fallen flag status.
Ofcourse, CSX itself under the circumstances of the dilemma, will have to relocate its headquarters for the corporate offices from Cleveland, Ohio, to either Colorado Springs, Colorado, or El Paso, Texas, especially since we will no longer tolerate the ‘C’ in CSX to stand for Chessie nor will we have the ‘S’ in CSX standing for Seaboard while the ‘X’ that still doesn’t stand for anything presently will from now on after being relocated west of the Mississippi River, the ‘C’ in CSX from now on will stand for Colorado with the ‘S’ standing for Springs, and the ‘X’ standing for Texas, which is what it rightfully deserves to stand for regardless of the circumstances of the dilemma.
Ofcourse, the Chessie System will have brand new corporate headquarters in Louisville, Kentucky.
Other railroads that presently are under the fallen flag status will have to be bought up, which includes the full scale restoration of miles of right-of-ways being undertaken.
Furthermore, the 1972 law passed by the Nixon administration that allows railroads to give up the rights to their money losing lines will have to be repealed in order to encourage more manufacturers to build more factories and warehouses and storage facilities nearer to the train tracks because you can’t always rely on the trucking industry nor aircraft, and the same thing goes for maritime vessels using inland waterways that go underneath certain bridges built with taxpayer dollars.
So basically in other words, what we have in mind is the possible resurrection of a business from its present fallen flag status, and if it requires it, and Heaven knows that it will, we’ll petition every congressional leader in this nation to return the 1934 Gold Reserve Act of FDR back into federal law.
Fun fact the top of csx cabs are white because white reflects heat
Much needed in south Georgia!
Most of these engines have been there for 8 years or more I drive railcrews to their trains been through here lot's of times.
That's a lot of engines
LOL a dream for a train lover like me.
Weird that CSX is leaning towards GE. I wonder why that is
Emissions.
It's not weird...Every Class 1 has been doing that for awhile.
Wabtec/GE has always been more technologically advanced than EMD has within the last couple of decades.
Aside from microprocessors,they build reliable traction motors and overall better electronics and software.
The biggest downfalls to EMD,besides EPA regulations,was the mistake of manufacturing the SD90MAC's and SD70AH-T4's...Nobody liked them.
Once modern EMD units hit their mark,it's better to either retire,store,or outright scrap them because of costs and strict emissions testing.EMD being two stroke also make them more gussler on fuel,even though easy to work on.
The only EMD units that might be left in the future are the GP40-2's,SD40-2's,SW1500's,and MP15DC's/AC's even if it's local.
The only good of modern EMD units is that the traction loads quicker and they won't catch on fire like any GE unit.
Lunacy!
a very VERY small minority of those engines are bought by a small operation that runs in eastern Washington and restored or refitted. I know of at least 6 former CSX locos and more show up yearly.
Solid evidence that trucks are taking over the frieght hauling business. Less costly, more efficient & more flexible. It is just a matter of time. A very short amount of time!
Trucks have been touted to replace the railroads for the last 70 years. If you were right, it would’ve happened by now. We’re still gonna need railroads
Pan am railways rubbing their hands together right now
Dang that’s a lot of engines. I wonder if any of these engines are out of this storage yard 5 months later
God only knows possibly.
csx should not cry about dash 8 we have 40 or more years old dash 7
And the ones at 30 to 40 years of age will be given the old Chessie System paint scheme for the purposes of things, for example, hauling future cotton crops from eastern Kentucky to the international market in Memphis, Tennessee.
Now, although we see no older GG1s among these locomotives, eventually we’ll find as many as possible to restore, not for inner city traveling of passengers, but rather for hauling Kentucky bituminous to the steel mills in cities like Toledo, Youngstown, and Cleveland, just to name a few.
Hell I'd even take the EMD 80 and 90MACs
Being built like a tank or battleship; theoretically the locomotive platforms will last indefinitely if it is not in a wreck, fire, or rust out.
All those platforms in the video could be updated and modernized to any type of propulsion.
You know the cars that ship CNG or propane? I'd like to see a diesel loco converted over to gas and plumbed into one of those cars being used as a fuel tank.
Or repower an engine to run off ethanol or put a CNG turbine onboard to drive a generator like they use at the power plants.
Take a stack of Tesla car batteries or put them on a flat car and wire it up. Just some ideas.
Rip those locomotives
And yet, even if it takes the entire Kennedy fortunes to do so, a lot of them will be restored to working order, and hauling Kentucky grown cotton to the international cotton market in Memphis.
They are prob the highest of milaged locos that are first to be set aside in what it seems is always an unstable economy. Not sure whose to blame for playing games with our lives like that for a quick buck. EMD is a product of General motors and we all know GM makes American muscle cars with gas guzzling V8s. Also, GM also has a history of dismantling railroad systems in the USA. I am always curious why EMD has faded away and GE took over.
General Motors sold out EMD in 2005 after EPA regulations became more serious and after what happened with the SD90MAC's,which were their first four stroke units including the SD89MX.
Those units were the result of poor engineering and development.
EMD always being two stroke inevitably made them impossible to uphold into modern emissions testing.The same thing happened with Detroit Diesel.
GE has always been much more technologically advanced than EMD in more ways than one.However,Wabtec now owns right to GE's locomotive production and they both have built traction motors for them as well as the software that all modern units have.
GE units have stronger tractive effort and reliable dynamic braking,they are the best for serious freight and where grades are present.Modern EMD units lack these features,but traction loads quicker and they are great for switching so there's that.When GE acquired ALCO,they based the 7FDL's on the 251's which is also why there has been mechanical unreliability because back in the day EMD was much more reliable than ALCO in many ways.But,with the motors being four stroke it obviously makes them easily compliant with tier four regulations.There is nothing wrong with any EMD 567,645,or 710 series but those motors have heavy carbon footprint and are thirsty on diesel.
EMD units are slowly fading away from mainline usage,probably the only units that will be left are the GP40-2's & SD40-2's due to their incredible longevity and widespread distribution.There will still be many EMD units around for shortlines and industries,but GE units will eventually take over Class 1 service.
Wabtec/GE has been taking over for awhile now and they have been less costly than EMD while they've been declining on business except for stationary and marine apparatus where the EPA is irrelevant.
Greenbriar Berkshire nearly crumbled EMD but then Caterpillar became their parent company.Ironically,they also are under serious pressure with the EPA.
The last series of SD70ACE's were much better in quality but then they made mistakes with the SD70AH-T4's which are disliked just like the SD90MAC's that they were based on from the start.
Honestly,the biggest problems towards EMD is the EPA and their outdated electronics.It was good for a short time on rebuilds that they finally discontinued business with Simens and had a partnership with Mitsubishi.
The EPA was an invention of the Nixon administration, but now it’s going beyond its limitations, and either needs someone in congress to be a watchdog over it, or just disband it altogether.
Hey cxs if you keep one there that's out of service and it's reached the end of its service life I gladly take one I am a train nerd I would gladly take one if I have a room
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This is accurate I used to live close by the yard 🙂
How intriguing.
I see the idiots came in and ripped out some of the tracks. They’e now actually putting tracks back in at Tilford yard for a new transload facility.
So what I'm getting out of this is... I could just take one and they wouldn't notice
Can the relatively new units be sold to the foreign countries?
Nice I been to that yard before that’s where I caught csx 911 also you caught spirit of Louisville at the end of the video btw
Ironically, I think the "Spirit of Waycross" is in there too!
Nice video well done I did see carpetbagger on RUclips did a video on a bunch of engines in the desert in Arizona check that one out but again good job my friend I gave you a like and share it on Twitter and Facebook
Thank you!
Not a complete collection without a toaster
30 years old pfff...we have locos that are over 70 years old and still used throughout our railway network. These locos are NZ Railway "Dc" class ex "Da" class
Yeah.
Wonder if I could buy one of those at a good price to impress my neighbors.
I’ll buy and have them donated to a Shortline railroad I own and I will drive it and I’ll restore some Diesel Locomotives just like I do with steam locomotives.
Somebody buy all the dash 8s and 9s.
Imagine if you were rich, and had a huge amount of land like Michael Jackson's Ranch, and could set up a big loop of standard gauge track and purchase an old engine like one of these. Just spend the day running it back and forth for hours. I imagine lots of FRA regulations and red tape to go through, but I wonder if technically it's possible. Imagine having your own Dash 9, and connecting a nice K5 rebuilt horn
All I see are dollar signs. $$$$$$$$$$$
Again, I say, this is a dump of expired equipment. Upper management would rather not spend the money dealing with them to keep up their profitability up now and get their bonus pay. Money in their pocket now vs pushing a cost off to the future. Making them somebody else's problem.
Lots of scrap there !
As God as my witness, anyone who tries to turn so much as one individual locomotive into a batch of new Hyundai Sonatas is obviously in cahoots with the bureaucrats in Pyongyang.
@V12 Productions GREAT Video, It's A Shame All Of These Locomotives Are Just Sitting There In Waycross, GA You Can Blame PSR For That. Also, CSX Has Trouble Finding Crews To Run Trains. Additionally, While This Is CSX'S Largest Yard, Some Of Norfolk Southern's Yards Are Larger, And Eventually Union Pacific's Bailey Yard.
Thanks!
@@v12productions You're Welcome, Also Union Pacific's Bailey Yard Is The Largest Rail Yard In The World. Not Covered In My Previous Comment, But Additionally, I'm Sure BNSF As Well As CN And CP Have Some Pretty Decent Sized Yards.
Wow
That’s so not fair👎 why would you scrap locomotives they’re really useful always needed😭☹️
rip
Poor things…
Modifying an old locomotive to be PTC compliant AND DPU capable is expensive. It's more likely they will gut them and then roll the hulks down the road to the scrapper right there by the diamond you filmed at the last frame of your video. I have seen lots of old U-boats go through the chopper there over the past 22+ years.