Cheap Arrows from China: Are they any good?
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2019
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Armin Hirmer
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I use cheap Chinese arrows. I'm not good enough to blame my failures on the arrows yet.😎
Haha, same here. For shooting, yes. But when it comes to weight, the difference can mean 9 gpp to 10 gpp. Which Can be a problem if the arrow is too light for the bow.
Also the spine is an issue if you shoot mediterranean.
I confess I do occasionally buy cheap Chinese arrows. In fact, 6 arrived this morning. They are okay for shorting on my property and I don't cry if I break them. You get what you pay for. Flaxen Saxon.
I have them all, wooden, bamboo, fiberglass , mixed fiberglass /carbon and pure carbon arrows, all from China. I may say I learned the hard way but cheaper. Had fun and felt the differences. Be precautious on the mixed material but advertised as carbon. There's good in cheap products!
Armin again went into details and brought about learning .
Maraming Salamat as always.
What do you recommend for barebow?
Armin ..Thank you for responding to my comment. I was a little coarse with my response. I apologize for this . I come from a different era . You are a good person and I would like to follow you. Stay well🙏
I bought a set. The wood is cedar. It's varnished so you can't smell it. Mine are self nocked with purple heart as a nock reenforce. The depth of the purple heart wasn't constant. The straightness wasn't bad. They were spined for my 50 pound Grozer. Good enough to learn with but not for anyone over beginner. I learned how to make my own arrows.
Nice video, was close to buying them a few days ago but now im going to make my wooden arrows myself, way more fun! cheers
Mr.Armin nice to see you shooting some arrows. 🎯🎯🎯😀 I think that arrows are fine to have fun. Great Video. Cheers!!✌😀
You have been very polite and diplomatic with the review... :)
Good to see another video from you my friend. Still hope to see more in the future. Good day sir
I purchased some .166, 500 spine carbon arrows off Alibaba a while back. I set them up as I did my regular arrows (Bow: 70", 38 pound, 28" draw, 9.25 brace height, arrows 28.5 inches long, 2.1" fletchings, 100 grain points) and they shot 2 feet left at 20 yards; indicating they were way to stiff.
I upped the point weight to 120 grains and saw no difference.
I weighed my normal arrows and found they were 19 grams with points, fletchings and nocks. The Chinese arrows were 22 grams.
I ended up throwing the Chinese arrows out, as they were unusable.
I have Dozens of them, great for Bush an Beach slinging but the thick heads rip open Targets fast!
Ive a Mate who is a pro at straightening them in the field, the various Flu Flu models are impossible to lose.
They seem to Shoot good out of any Bow?
Unreal Armi, beauty Mate.
I was wondering about this the past few days. Nice 😁
If you are in the UK there's similar if not the same arrows on ebay for about £2.50 per arrow (€2.90) with free shipping. If you don't mind the look you can also get fibreglass arrows with rubber fletchings, then buy feathers and refletch them, all in £2.10 per arrow and they have much more consistent spine and weigh.
Nice review, good to know that they don't weigh and spine them. Gonna skip these I think then😂. As always Thx for teaching us about Archery. I built a set of 6, 5 inch feathers, wrapped and whipped, spined for 50 pounds. They fly really nice. I'll see if I can't get some to Malta ✈️😊
Good review, thanks for posting. I have purchased aluminum and carbon arrows from China, haven't had any problems with them and paid a fraction of the cost of comparable arrows, around $35 a dozen US. The only issue I had with one shipment was in shipping apparently something a lot heavier dropped in the middle of the package, which resulted in a curved arrow. Received a credit for the damaged arrow from the company, no questions.
Good review. I can add few words, as I got exact same set (a lot cheaper on aliexpress 12 for under 30 EUR) an also I was more lucky, checked with similar tool - few was perfectly straight, others similar to what Armin got. I amshooting them occasionally since couple of months and no issues (from 25 pound to 55 pound bows). Only thing I did, is reinforcement of the knocks with drop of glue, so I do not have any issue of wood being sharp or falling apart. But I got also some other arows similar to those and must say that really in the same price there is big selection of nice wooden arrows. Recommend those with twisted feather (those even not perfect straight always goes accurately).
I have some very similar for using in the back yard. They're okay for the 35lb but not the 50lb bows I own. The slow motion caught some incredible snaking when loosing from the 50lber. Still fun to shoot. Broke 4 since Christmas. No complaints.
We shoot the Flu Flu's out of 65Lb compound, they sound like Angry Wasps and are amazingly durable for wobbly wood and feel nice out of Asiatic. My Daughters 15Lb slings them fine too.
Beauty Boss.
Just starting out and I love your energy sign♾💚♾
nice detailed review regarding wooden arrows from China..
Never bought wood arrows, but I have bought "pure carbon" and "mixed carbon" (fibreglass). The carbon ones are great, the glass were heavy and slow like wood arrows. aliexpress is the place to look, and look closely, read the full description.
My experience w "cheap" wood and bamboo arrows from China was similar. I bought 3 doz of each and the weight spread was 150 grains, about 1/3 were straight, and the spine varied by 20 pounds. Shot all 36 at the target and got roughly 4 different groups. ;)
You were nicer than I would have been on the review.
I buy 600 carbon express from China. Bare shafts with points, no difference at all to the (real thing)£28 per dozen with free delivery. No problems at all.
BTW, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Chinese arrow shafts, except sometimes they take non-standard inserts (usually proper ones are supplied by the same vendor). I have used Innal - great arrows.
I bought a bag of those tips from IRQ on eBay. They are around 130gn ish and the diameters vary a bit, which is good for bamboos..
Great work👌
I've got 3 sets of Carbon Arrows from China, so far, so good, as a light hobbiest they will do fine, interesting to see this proper measurement of wooden arrows, dont have any yet.
Thank you sir👍
They sound a good deal, but 100 grains weight difference is 30 odd ft per second speed difference. Though for something to shoot and not worry about losing or breaking I suppose they may be worth it.
Armin, might I ask the advantages of siyahs apart from improving leverage and keeping working limbs short? Do they provide some form of camming action?
Also what about non-contact siyahs, how do they differ in what they provide to regular ones?
Wood bends due to the internal wood grain orientation and the absorption of ambient humidity from the air. Dryer or more humid contritions and you should expect the curved spine to do it again.
Any applied pressure to attempt to straighten will only be temporary.
Thanks Armin, i only use carbon but wood is interesting.
Carbon has faults also.
I purchased a set (one dozen) wood arrows (red fletching) from AF Archery on Amazon, US $35 ($25 + $10 shipping) when I ordered my AF Archery Han bow (thanks to your review!) and they seem fine for outdoor target shooting; good enough that I ordered a second set with white fletching for my white Mongol bow. Only concern is the spine is "random"; but for a few dollars more they offer spine choice (500, 550, 600). Cheers!
I think then that I was right to learn to make my own arrows. I keep track of what I pay for my components and I calculate my marginal cost per arrow is €2.20, and that is for consistent weight and spine wooden arrows with wraps and four inch fletching. It's so easy to make arrows I think anyone who wants to do archery as a hobby should learn to do it because you can really save money this way.
That is the proper way. I do the same. And it is fun.
Where I live carbon arrows are 1euro 20cents a piece and have consistent weight and spine
Great stuff very interesting and in clever stuff 👍👍👍👍
" Please take responsibility for the ENERGY you bring into this space" brilliant sign!!!!!
thank you for the video, I guess if you want high precision arrows, one should make them, but , if one can live with it...it is still an exercise in adaptive shooting....
FIiiirrrrsttttttt!!!!!!!!!
Thank's Armin
Richard coeur de Lion 😎🇫🇷
Bought a few batches of these. They look better than they shoot. Great for Ceremony/Display. One shipment was blocked by Customs, on the grounds that they were "weapons"...
Where do you live mate?
I started with el cheapo Chinese arrows much like these. When I decided to bite the bullet I had custom arrows built for me by Andy Ponce of Addictive Archery. The difference was staggering. I threw the Chinese arrows in the garbage.
can you reccomend arrows for a 40 lb kaya ktb? Specifically arrow weight
Ha ha. I suspect that picnic table surface may not be nuclear physics straight, so rolling your arrows on it to straighten them may not be the best choice. Thx for your informative vid. I recently stumbled upon Easton XX75 Platinum Plus aluminum arrows and, for the foreseeable future, I have found my ideal arrow (1616 spine for my lighter weight, 25-30 poundish, recurves), but they are not cheap. I wonder if there is a Chinese equivalent?
where my bamboo arrows are from.Had to straighten,and the weight is not the same.But cheap
U look like Jorah Mormont from GOT
Could you make a video about arrows from the platform Wish?
Good video
No need: Wish rips off the sellers who are just ordering from Aliexpress anyway. Better off going on Aliexpress and finding them yourself. There are browser addons that can search comparable products and if you search over the period of a month or 6 you get a lot of data regarding which sellers are reputable and when they have sales. Try to place all your orders before xmas or wait until February to order. Good luck!
I pur chased.. 12 Sharrow arrows and at this stage i have lost 5 nocks of them, and having real trouble finding more.. I need to find A PLACE that sells
I bought bamboo, made my own arrows. I have fun making them and shooting them.
For my purposes (back garden shooting) i only use cheap arrows. Both my bows cost around £100 and some arrows cost more than that for 12. If i was a hunter sure i can see spending that much, if i was a competition shooter i can see it too, but when i shoot a couple of times a month it seems silly to spend a huge amount of money. I pay typically £15 per dozen for for crossbow bolts, £15 for carbon arrows and 35 for wood arrows for my recurve
How would you mark these arrows out of ten taking price into consideration?
Hello good sir what is that bow you were using?
The arrow straightening stuff looks good, do you have a site or email from Dave? I'd love to support his business for such a straightening thing.
I figured now how to use it, you need to apply a bit side twist then the arrows get staright :D
dave_jardine@blueyonder.co.uk
Daves email
I used to use Chinese arrows.
Then I bought a set of twelve not realizing that one of them had a hairline fracture I didn't notice.
Now I'm missing a sizeable hunk of thumb meat.
So I stick with Easton aluminum since I'm down to my spare thumb now.😅
In looking for a cheap bow
What do you recommend ??
That is expensive for Chinese arrows, for woods I pay between £25-30 per dozen, for carbons I pay £30-40 per dozen same for pure aluminium, for carbon/aluminium composite skinny arrows I pay between £60-70 per dozen.
Never received a set of Chinese arrows that I wasn’t happy with, I figure if the Chinese can make iPhones and virtually all modern day electronics, a few arrows isn’t beyond them. Besides I think all my bows bar one, where made in China.
I can’t afford western price markups, £120 for a dozen arrows is too much for me.
TJJ. What companies have you used? Getting to the point of needing arrows
I have been shooting over 45 years for competition buy the very best you can afford if you can afford easton ACC ,ACE, or X10 buy them for practice the best alluminium arrows are easton X7, or XX75 I buy the cheap chinese arrows as i dont require them to be perfect and they are disposable i remove the piles and replace them with glued on brass bullets but buy the arrows with piles that have not been pinched on as you cant remove them but if your draw length is less than 29" you can cut the piles off and glue the bullets on and still have an arrow long enough to remain safe it will improve the arrows considerably
Your videos are very enjoyable and informative Armin. I'm just starting out and have BH Longbow at 40lbs coming from PRC. I see a local deal online for AU$44. - 12 400SP wooden with 4" turkey feathers. ($1AU=€68c) For a beginner worth buying? Add states straightness + - .003mm. Plan is to upgrade later to carbon. Sound logic? Mit meiner Wertschätzung
sounds good to me, arrows are a bit stiff with 400sp
@@ArminHirmer thank you Armin, after revisiting the ad, I see they are 500sp. What spine would you recommend for a 40lb Black Hunter Longbow?
depends what you want from the arrow
please review the ACCMOS PREDATOR
Thanks for this review! I'm also wondering what you think of Alibow's wooden and bamboo arrows. Are they worth the price?
Alibow has good quality for a fair price
@@ArminHirmer Hey Armin, you might not see this reply because the comment is a year old, but I'm new to archery and I'm getting into it because I love history. I have a 50lb horsebow and want to get the alibow Qinghai at 40 pounds. Have you tried the bamboo arrows from alibow? I'm not sure what specifications match my draw weight, do you have any recommendations for the spine and grain?
@@enderis526 Hi. Simply order directly matching arrows with your bow from Alibow. They have nice carbon, wood and bamboo arrows
@@ArminHirmer I assume I would do that by saying that in the special directions? Thank you so much!
Aren't carbon express predator II's the same price roughly as these? Per arrow it's about 6.87 USD. ($80 a dozen or so with shipping and such) They're well liked and accurately spined and weighted. Not sure where carbon express is made, but they're common here in the states.
Edit: nevermind these from the video are considerably cheaper, my bad.
They are not the "best", but they are a hell of a lot better than no arrows.
The carbon/fiberglass composite ones I have group nicely to 30 yards or so.
Hi @armin, you don't shoot carbon arrows?
I have a set from af and I quite like it
Me too!! Are Nice!🎯
@@miguelveratraditionalarche9374 I mean 48cad for a dozen. I could break 3 and still be fine
@@Zonic0000 ohh ok😅
Have tried the cheap Chinese arrows and I found that they weighed 1.2 grains difference per shaft and the straightness was as they claimed. Shooting them was now totally different as they outshot and grouped better than my Gold Tip arrows?? Go try for yourself!!
Thank you Armin! What about bamboo arrows from China? Are they good? Are they durable in general? Regards from Holland!
So far I only had Bamboo from Alibow and they were good
Sou seu fã e gostaria muito de saber mais sobre o arco mongol de preços e como comprar ou importar flexas pois sou brasileiro e iniciante em arqueria e nada melhor que aprender com o melhor mestre do mundo
Here where i live you can find arrows for 1.30 dollars ( carbon ) which is amazing
A dozen of basic wooden arrows from alibow would cost 62 euros with shipping to the UK. Are these any better/worse ?
yes better
Buy decently made but cheap carbon arrows instead skylon frontier are very very good. I have 12 arrows in 700-spine cut at 29 with 100 grain insert. They vary max 0.1 gram
nice to know
Hi how much will you sell the arrow
I know you said that orange device (arrow roller) was 3D printed but what is it called and where can you buy them?
You can straighten shafts with it. I put the email in the description. He made it for me
Any link to buy them from china (aliexpress. alibaba) ?
Try to recheck the straightness after 20+ shots.
Good arrow's
I have a 32# mongolian horsebow, 28 draw. I do not know much about archery or bows, but can anyone tell me what roughly the sweet spot would be for grains / spine for that bow?
400 spine
hey thats my bow!
whats the first bow you used? and is it a good starter bow. thank you
Haha my first bow was a traditional compound by Fred Bear :) not usefull for a beginner
Do you have a suggestion of a good place to get arrows for a decent price?
Alibow, Fairbow USA, mamluk archery, Sarmat archery
@@ArminHirmer thank you so much
I only ever shoot cheap arrows with my slingbow. I've had crappy arrows literally explode on release with my compound.
That is a good way for them to explode and imail your hand / wrist. Use the right spine or you could end up at a hospital for being cheap.
@@1RobHunter1 that's why I only use the cheapies on a slingbow. I wouldn't dare shoot them out any decent bow. My slingbow only draws about 15-18 lbs. Not enough oomph to cause any issues.
What's the best arrows to use with a horse bow??
Depends
Easton Axix #600 seem likely to last forever. Can't understand why anybody would waste money on lesser arrows.
what about cheap chinese carbon, fiberglass and aluminium arrows? they might have the same spine and weight?
I just bought a few dozen cheap carbon arrows off eBay from a couple different vendors.
1. Built well....good fletching, points, inserts, and knocks.... Seemed to be consistent in weight.
2. Flew well out of a 45 lb horse bow with good groups
The not so good:
3. Durability was no where near my carbon blood sport arrows. Everytime I put a blunt tip on the Chinese arrows and went "stump hunting" in the woods the carbon arrows broke apart after 2-3 hits on semi rotten stumps (my lower end bloodsports I've got 100's of fresh stumps without damage).
4. The knocks and inserts are slightly different than a typical arrow shaft (the i.d seems to be larger than a typical arrow so standard hardware doesn't well). I'm wondering if the Chinese arrows are the same o.d as my other arrows but are thinner wall with a larger i.d and not as strong.
I would say go for them if you want to Target shoot on a forgiving target. For hunting or abuse they don't hold up well. I find going to Walmart and reflectching with real feathers might be a better option if you have the skills to do that. You'll have a more durable arrow and it will be easier to replace knocks and inserts.
Hi Dick Orange, just a precaution, they have mixed fiberglass and carbon arrows. Stronger than fiberglass but weaker than carbon arrows.
The wood is not completely dried.
If you let them dry out they should all be almost the same weight.
Yes! I was not the only one thinking exactly the same
Ah, the old 'You get what you pay for'
See hunting primitive, he shoots arrows of different length, spine and weight, and he is using Them for hunting, I think it depends on your shooting style
Wood arrows have to be really straight to fly straight compared to bamboo at least that's what I've observed. Bamboo is more flexible than wood
Hmmmm... ponder time
I bought inexpensive arrows from China and on both occasions they were bent not 1 straight arrow in 24 very disappointed
all arrows are good under 50 lbs draw weight but try 70 lbs and broadheads tht will tell you how good they really are
Sure yet 60% of all archers shoot even less than 50#
Cheap Chinese arrows have caused me nothing but frustration. They break easily, are often bent on arrival, and fly like garbage. For a little more you can buy something that is reliable. The equipment a man prefers is a reflection of the man's inner character. I say it is better to spend a bit more and be happy.
Lol, I don’t get my Chinese arrows from Amazon “spaced” this way, not AT ALL.
So, where in Europe would you recommend I buy wood arrows? Durable, precise and straight.
I would like to know the answer to that as well
as example: shop.bearpaw-products.com/WebshopB2C/Cedar_Arrow_Standard_32_inches/P-4683/1?Origin=Navigator
but they are not so historical looking
traditionalbowshop.com/en/arrows-accessories/96-medieval-arrow-set.html
almost same price but from Hungary
@@ArminHirmer Thank you 😊
Sarmat archery in the Ukraine makes good wood arrows. I got 4 dozen sipped to the USA for 200 USD. Made from maple.
I got the same arrows from China once was told they're white wood arrows others told me berch
Maybe it means the same for them
"these ones"
I use tonkin bamboo from china, its arround 10 us $ for each arrow. Thats the best arrow i have..
Brother can you tell me the difference between wood and bamboo arrows? Ive only used bamboo not wood.
@@yehenala1 bamboo is more flexible than wood, in my experience wood is fragile, when the arrow hit something hard, the point break the wood. But some wood with some special treatment can make it better arrow just like carbon.
@@TheArudehi thanks for the reply
Affordable is relative...no China for me
The bamboo ones are better
If your arrows are not matched to your draw length and the weight of your bow at your draw length then you will never get great accuracy from your shots. With mixed spine arrows your shots will be left or right of what you are trying to hit. Correct matching arrow spine is the most important part of any archers kit, period. You could have the best bow in the world, but if you haven't got the correct arrows then its just another bow.
I've seventeen years experience as an arrow Fletcher. Drop me a line or find me on eBay and I'll improve your shooting with arrows matched to you and your bow.
Mark... UK
Bullseye Archery
It was more of a test, I think he's got decent arrows for his bow
I can't see any genuine benefit from shooting cheaply made arrows that deviate so much in all the important characteristics. It doesn't help your shooting skills to attempt to group mismatched arrows. That's just an exercise in frustration for most archers. And since accuracy is everything in archery, why wouldn't you want arrows capable of grouping well?
I do own a Chinese made crossbow which I greatly enjoy and whose quality is very good for the price. But I don't shoot Chinese made bolts in it. I shoot a good grade of well made bolts. It's very important to me when hunting with my crossbow or my traditional recurve bow to shoot an arrow capable of extremely good performance. Every arrow or bolt I hunt with costs me about $25 to $30, due to shaft cost, broadhead cost, lighted nock, etc. The last thing I want to do is shoot an arrow that veers off to the side due to cheap construction and whacks a tree, destroying a $30 projectile.
If I was looking into fletching my own arrows, they might be a good starting point for learning how to tune up arrows. For example, you might challenge yourself to make some smaller matching sets out of one or two boxes.
Hi there Armin, please can you speak up a bit on your video, I'm a bit deaf and wear 2 hearing aids but still can't hear you too clearly, it looks interesting about arrows from China but I also need to heat what your saying, so Thank you
Dead easy to straighten wood arrows... I do it without heat...
Oh! You did it!