I really like this video! I’ve purchased and used Easton FMJ’s & Axis’s 300’s “Match grade” both were around $110 for a half dozen pre fletched and then I bought a half dozen maxima red sd’s $90 Pre fletched and they perform the best especially with fixed heads out of my setup ,a 2016 Halon 7 29.5 70# . I found it odd that the Cx arrows that cost $20 less performed better.”Cause usually you get what you pay for in the archery culture” so I asked my Bow Dr. At my local shop about it and he told me that it’s what your bow likes. Certain bows like a certain arrow. He compared it to firearms., some guns like A certain brand of ammunition over others. He said maxima reds are like the Hornady of arrows lol
I have used both inexpensive (cheap) arrows and expensive arrows. Unless you are shooting 3D competitions or you just like to impress people with your arrows, your arrow selection should depend on its use not price. For everyday hunting uses inexpensive arrows are sufficient.
I'd like to see you do this with traditional arrows for recurve. I see more inexpensive fletched arrows from China on ebay for $30-$50 for 12, gold tip, Easton etc want $80 for six! That's a lot for a traditional beginner shooting in my back yard!
It depends on what you do with the arrows. If you shoot at a target at 70 m with an Olympic bow and you want to hit the bull’s eye, then yeah you better use an expensive one. I use a 45 pounds Turkish bow ( thumb draw) to shoot human size target at about 60 meters and I use the cheapest arrows on Ebay and I hit the target most of the time. So it depends what you shooting at.
I got a dozen arrows from Amazon. They are a bit heavy but shoot well. I have been shooting them for about a month. They are holding up very well. Mine are Pointdo brand. I shoot Traditional style with a 35# recurve bow. For outdoor practice and stumping. I would recommend them. Not sure about compound bows though.
I love victory arrows, the vap tko in particular, i go through a fair few arrows on my channel and the tko are pretty much indestructible, amazing penetration.
I’m new to archery and have a new love. I’ve been buying cheap musen arrows on eBay only because I don’t want to loose anything too expensive right now
Thanks for this informative video. At age 63 I have been shooting bow now for 2 months. My bow and arrows come from garage sales, very inexpensive. My arrows are I think Easton aluminum shafts that needed knocks and fletching which I did myself so I now have about $50 invested in 24 arrows, now 23. At my skill level they do fine but like any shooting sport the better and more competitive you get the better your equipment may need to be. So like you say if you plan on getting better fast buy better arrows but if like myself you just want to have some fun, less expensive will likely do and you won’t spent hours looking for that expensive arrow that you missed with. : )
Archery noob here...bought my used Martin Jaguar on eBay with a couple ravaged carbon express arrows in the package. Of course, I’m new and can’t hit a 24 inch target at 10 meters...went to local archery shop and had the bow set up (limited by what you can do with this bow) and bought 3 entry level Gold Points which were the correct spine and were suggested by the shop owner. Wow! Big difference! Then I thought, “must have more arrows!” Bought a 12-pack for $36 on Amazon. These arrows were all right, but after spending a few weeks shooting 18-20 meters I’m getting form together and getting much better but... I know I’m new but when I go back to the Gold Tips and there is NO QUESTION...the Amazon arrows are okay up to a point but if you are serious about TARGET accuracy, there is a big difference. Now, about the bow....THAT is another story I’ll be telling somewhere else...😎
Good video, I moved almost as soon as I started shooting (within weeks) from cheap aluminium arrows to Easton Powerflights which I considered very very good value and plenty accurate given that my form wasn't consistant. I did switch to a more expensive shaft in a smaller diameter with a pin nock which I now build myself as I kept damaging the Powerflights due to arrow on arrow contact at 20m/20yrds (the furthest I can practice at home) using 6 arrows on a single face target. The more expensive shafts actually worked out cheaper as the only damage they've had is having the nocks broken but they can be easily replaced and cost very little even for the Accunocks that I use.
Great video bro , very informative . every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new about archery . thank you and keep up the great work .
Average Jack Archery Average Jack Archery I'm glad you understood what I meant... I'm buying arrows not giving them. Thanks man and blessing to you and your family as well
My main arrow are Gold Tip Trad Classic XT's, not cheap arrows but awesome and purdy. For those possibly going to lose or break the arrow moments I like using Gold Tip Trad blems. You can buy them cheap in good numbers and then make match sets. Usually the blemish is not very noticeable but sometimes it is but when you hear when head for Narnia or break it's not so bad. Just hope to get the nock and tip back if possible.
hey! every time I hit with a broadhead that sucker goes through and it takes forever to find the arrow! Blood covers up the colors on the fletching. I've actually had a lot easier time recovering arrows from misses than arrows from hits
I use the link boy 340 arrows from china on my compound. I got 12as a assembly yourself kit for about€57.. 003 straights throng only destroyed 2 in 6 months both hit by another compound shot. Am very happy and disagree with you comments in your video
I got tiger predator arrows 500 spine on amazon there not the best arrow but since got them after not shooting for two years and as a trend on mine said there servable for my needs till i can afford the nice arrows my best game with those arrows using NFAA 5 spot 300 rounds was 296/300 with 36 X's
Why did so many people dislike your video? I just don’t understand the amount of passive aggressiveness on the Internet. People suck. Well done video man, you speak very well.
I don’t understand all the dislikes to be honest. His point is, the better the arrow, the tighter the group which ultimately and most likely you will have to pay a little extra for. Like he said at the end though, it’s not always a necessity. It’s okay to shoot cheaper arrows but if you’re competing you want the best arrow. Great video.
I prefer my practice arrows to be exactley 30.47264" Not a 100thousandth more or less. And i use 136 grain broadhead while i practice. I shoot 2 inch stones in the hillside from 100yards away. I do go through quite a few arrows but thats okay they only cost me $250 each. Thats nothing for a profesional like me.
I've had a lot of fun with cheap carbon express arrows. I don't have very good vision so super precise accuracy isn't that important. I really wanted to shoot pistols for target practice. but my vision is even worse with one eye closed. I'm better with a bow than iron sights on a pistol.
there is nothing wrong with inexpensive arrows for average shooter as long as spine weight is correct. unless you are as good as Byron Ferguson then no need for expensive arrows. newbies shouldn't even think about expensive arrows. expensive arrows give you bragging rights but will not make anybody a better shooter.
100% agree. When you are talking about the difference .006 and .004 "straightness' and 2 grains per inch (0.12 grams!) especially in traditional archery this means nothing! in terms of overall accuracy this is such a minute factor as opposed to, tuning (bow and arrows), technique and environmental conditions.
I am not a Hunter nor am I a tournament shooter. I shoot at a bag target in the back yard and I also walk around in the woods and shoot at a limb or twig with a judo point. So for me the Amazon arrows are fine. I have also been known to miss the bag target and poof!! my arrow is gone. Never to be seen again.
So I just started to actually get serious about archery,bought a solution ss,which I love. I'm getting good groups but what would you recommend on where to put my equipment investments first,arrows and fletching tools etc. Or sights and rests. I'm running a whisker biscuit and s trophy ridge sight. It's alright but definitely want to upgrade. Just unsure on where to start and where to focus first. Like most of us,I don't have thousands to jus go out and buy all at once. Bought a quality bow kinda as a baseline I'd be happy with and working up from there
Not quite. There are a lot of independent tests on a bunch of forums that clearly show that cheaper arrows are not worse than more expensive ones. If they hit the intended target - stick with the cheapest reliable option. Competition level international - might think of most expensive arrows.
The more expensive options get a lot of visibility in tournaments but have to remember international high level archers are most likely given those for free as part of their sponsorhip contract. Have to find someone who has actually paid money to get unbiased views.
I believe you should get the best arrows you can afford; the arrow is what kills the animal you are after. You wouldn't shoot a bullet with grain differences; all my arrows are spine tested and they are identical it weight, i can put a 6in plate at 80 yards and put 5 out 5 arrows in it with broadheads, you can't do this with cheap crap. As a hunter we owe it to the animals we hunt to use the best. Not trying to be negative or disrespectful, just my opinion.
tim berg lol iv killed lots of game with a maple bow I made myself and arrows it's about time with your bow and arrows not how much money you spend. You can spend 2000$ on gear but if you have only shot for two weeks you are not gonna hit kill shots every time. Iv bin shooting for 25 years and can make selfmade arrows touch dam near every time.
I think unless you're a top competing archer who can replicate precisely every single shot arrow selection matters. for the rest of us it doesn't matter one jot if 2000ths of an inch difference in shaft straightness when you can't stop your bow arm shaking like a shitting dog at full draw .and if you don't think it does video yourself and you'll see how much you move it's more than 1000ths of an inch
20 meters or under I notice no difference. But 70 or 80 yards a big difference. Victory arrows , even cheap ones shoot better than other more expensive arrows. Results may vary.
I've recently bought 5 mossy oak 29 inch carbon arrows 0.003 straightness 350 spine blazer vains . They seem to fly super straight and fast deadly accurate. Do you know anything about this arrow. Like who makes it?
Are cheap arrows worth the money? Yes..... Are you going to win tournaments with them? No... Because if you buy cheap arrows, it's just for fun, and archery should be fun. Cheap arrows are consistent enough for 99% of archers, because they most people don't have perfect form. It's all relative 😉
I always try to be as careful as possible, but I dare anyone to find a diehard bowhunter that doesn't have some cosmetic wear on their bow. Own it long enough, track enough animals, and put it in many truck cabs, it'll show its years.
BassinTheNorth i use gold tips of fmjs when cash is a flowing .But when cash in tight i use and love carbon express predictor 2.Great arrow ive killed dozens of animals with them. My groups are allways super tight.I found they are very accurate up to 60yards i havnt tried them further as that is my max i like to shoot my bow.$80 bucks a dozen here on aus . fletch them myself with blazer vanes.Spin test perfectly with my slick tricks.
NorthwoodsWhitetails you should be ok.....but that is one of the ways to watch for splitting limbs ...also listen for cracking sounds when you draw ...it might be very faint
Can't go wrong with Black Eagle Rampage.I have been shooting them for 3 years.They are a little on the light side for hunting,so just get the stainless steel inserts wich add 50 grains.They are micro diameter shafts and are great at longer yardage.They are cheaper than easton or gold tips with 001 straightness and are just as tough.The steel inserts greatly increase you're foc and fixed blade broadheads fly exactly like feild points provided you're bow is tuned properly and you have the spine matched with the poundage you are shooting.I'm not sponsered by Black Eagle or anything.Just a happy customer,for the price the quality is top notch.
The only difference i had, was that the spines had up to 150 tolerance difference from one arrow to the other. Beside that, i think the cheap ones are for the begining ok.
I have been shooting for sometime and my friends agree that 98% is the shooter and less than 4% is how expensive the arrow is. In conclusion, cheap and expensive arrows are about the same in target shooting. Maybe I am wrong, but buy what better suits you.
Seems like you touched a nerve or two with this video. Cheap or expensive is a valid question. I just bough 12 arrows for $50 off amazon that are supposed to be 500 spine carbon fiber. They looked so pretty on the screen. I thought I was saving big. No more $60 for 6 arrows for this guy. Shooting side by side there is no comparison. Those cheap arrows are much heavier and under spines for their rating hitting the target at all kinds of crazy angles. Cut my accuracy and shooting distance in half. Half price = half assed.
After hunting season last year at Walmart I bought 8 arrows the mossy oak brand 30 inch for $1.50 an arrow normally I pay 3-4$ per arrow I don't have alot of extra money to buy arrows and break them so I get them cheap when I can.
That brightened my day that last part "Enjoy God's beautiful creation", i often forget we glorify God because he's so good. Thank you sharing this video.
Nope! The spine is the key. If the carbon or aluminum arrow is the right spine, you can use it out of whatever bow you want. Most recurves and longbows need 500 spine up to 1000 spine.
well i agree to what you said actually because back in time when people actually did archery for a living / war / hunting games ...... maybe goofing around they used premitove arrows and they were id say good with them because its their life style HOWEVER the main thing about straightness of an arrow is ofc a considerable accuracy in olympics ... you know you want to be the guy who's blowing the pea on the second and third lmao , thats why you need more straightness etc thats in my humble opneion BUT when you are going for hunting you need something that will work fine with you not necessary to be that expensive arrow because usually you are near the target not at 70 meters i believe ... you are hiding playing peekaboo with your prey camouflaged scent hidden with toilet papers .. i dont know maybe.. so yeah you may go for cheaper arrows because eventually you basically need something that will pierce through the flesh of your food to catch the more expensive the better but well cheap also would work depending on what you are hunting ... unpess if you are going for elephants or bears then its a different story than hunting a deer right?
Yeah they are good arrows I bought a bunch of them from rural king to lol but my son has been shooting them to so I’m thinking about trying those Allen kryptos I just need them to put meat on the table
RDH 693 they were in a fight for survival and had to become super efficient with making a straight wood shaft and a strong rock broadhead or stick point. They were pretty clever in coming up with such primitive gear to get the job done back then. Just think if they had the modern compounds of today back then history might have came out completely different
I almost fell for the $40 amazon arrows. Luckily my shop let me test some good arrows. I started with Easton genesis and had terrible grouping. I swear the arrow looked like it was flying sideways. I tried some Black eagle vintage and it was like shooting lasers. I know they are not the best but they are so much better than the Easton low end line.
peyton vanderpool If you're looking inexpensive (as you're shooting a more lower price bow) Easton makes the Powerflight and Carbon Storm arrows. Both are excellent shafts that will suit you wonderfully.
So I got to have a dozen of the youth wood arrows from three Rivers archery I'm just shooting the 20 lb but I love it wouldn't trade it for the world I've been to archery since October the 9th did not officially start till October the 10th okay I ordered cuz a budget actually I right before the budget line ....they are lucky II didn't mail them pennies but I got the half dozen 1699 youth wood arrows step outside now give them a shot but every now and then you'll find a no name half dozen or a dozen between 30 to 60 that turn out to be better than the arrows you've shot previously and then somebody do a rating on and tell everybody about how good they are for the price.... the manufacturer catches on they Jack the price up but thanks for the video
I use the same arrow. Lol $3.97 each at Walmart and their even more accurate with hellfire vains. I sighted my bow in at 40 yards with the 350 kryptos and compared them to the carbon express mayhem 250/350. And chronometer says the kryptos are faster and their even more accurate. (Kryptos 296 fps ) Carbon express mayhem ( 256.8 fps ) the kryptos are 7.6 GPi 350 spine with blazer vains so their by far not a bad arrow.
Ive only ever shot average priced arrows.. I don't see any problems with them whatsoever.. I'm not a professional archer in the Olympics or shooting past 70 meters so it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
toxy1948 If you could give insight as to what makes you believe that I'm uneducated about this topic, please let me know so I can address it! Thanks so much!
Loco Badger I do not, no. I trust the manufacturers to do it for me and rely on their product. I'm pretty anal with a lot of my equipment but that's not an area I fuss over too much. :) God bless!
I like to know about my bow and arrow it is a a l.l brave2 by the company called bear here is the length of the arrows 27 inches it is the maximum weight 29 pounds
So you recommend using cheap blots, um bolts for practise and better ones for hunting...you're assuming the crap bolts and the better ones all have the same/identical accuracy. The unfortunate animal you hit several inches distant from your point of aim endures a lingering rather than a swift death, but you've saved a few bucks even if you don't recover the animal. Good one!
pretty sure dude you don't know jack if your saying cheaper arrows are not worth it then your a snob I use Accmos Arrows and they are wicket straight strong and dead on accurate of couse like any brand youll get the odd 1 or 2 dudes in a batch but that's ok they replace what you find is defective so top service from accmos 100% guarantee, i run their 500 spine arrows currently in my recurves and my compounds .. as for the weight thing even expensive arrows and tips and broadheads are never the same always a +or - on all them .. accmos also offers custom cut to lenght shaft to shaft cuts at that.. i also have some really expensive eastons and carbon rebels and a few others and you know what they are no better then the accmos you need to really..also no one needs top end arrows except for high end target shooters but for geneal target and hunting no one needs top of the line crap.. now I will say this to not totally diss you here there are some sellers on ebay and amazon that do sell total crap arrows i went for accmos because a friend has been using them for hunting and they work great for him and i Will say he is totally right hunting and target shooting great arrows and every bit as good as my more expensive stuff..
I shoot Walmart broad heads and sportmens brand arrows maybe 40 bucks for 6 arrows with broad heads and they kill rabbits and deer elk squirrels lol I dont see any difference in arrows I shot max reds 90 for 6 and I shot sportmens brand 27 for 6 and cant say i see a difference nore do the animals ha ha :):)
I have to say that expensive does not make you a good Archer, a thousand dollar bow and expensive arrows dont fix stupid or ignorance am 62 years old doing this all myife I will show u my inexpensive arrows hand made will out shoot them expensive arrows anytime age does matter to
"average jack"...then shows you HIGHEST class MOST expensive you can get...im a beginner and 34 years old..this "dont buy cheaper affordable stuff" kept me away from archery my whole young life!guys like you man...two options,expensive and more expensive..thanks for the choices.(douche kid at the range who had thousands of dollars of equipment)ill shoot my mandarin duck just the same...
Drew Dahlen Did you watch from 0:45 - 1:15 ....? This, like I started the video by saying, is a video explaining the differences between cheaper and expensive arrows. Not that you have to buy expensive things. I highly recommend you watch several other of my videos and see that I'm all about buying what is affordable for you and I wholly support people getting into archery, regardless of their budget. But thanks for your rude, condescending tone! Always an internet pleasure.
Funny human beings didn't need to know any of this information for the last few thousand years to be able to hunt and fight with bow and arrow quite effectively I think its all bullshit personally I use a $45 recurve and $1 ebay arrows I can shoot through a corrugated steel sheet with accuracy at 30 metres no probs and I started archery like 8 weeks ago
This Kid generally gives fairly good advice on topics Archery but this time, I'm afraid He's full of crap... If you're an IBO competition or Olympic Shooter then yes, arrow consistency is an essential goal and to get that level of true you are probably going to need to up your arrow anti. *BUT...FOR MOST GENERAL HUNTING AND SHOOTING, TARGET PRACTICE AND WHATNOTS...* Bargain arrows will do just fine... I promise you that at most practical hunting distances, the Deer will not know the difference and neither will you...For the record, I have several fiberglass arrows mixed in with my aluminums that I've owned since before this kid was born and I've lost count of how many animals I've killed with them. They are just about indestructible. They go where I point them EVERY SINGLE TIME....
Fireworxs2012 As much as I and everyone else who visits this channel enjoy your connotative tone, thank you for reiterating what I said in the video about how shafts are still good shafts even if they are of the budget variety. I'm sure the thousands of new archers who visit this video for years to come will come to learn so much from what you had to say. Best wishes!
Only elitists and fools spend money on expensive arrows. I've lost $10 arrows and it feels like I've taken a $10 bill and burned it. Spend your money on cheap arrows because chances are you will lose them or break them. At least you won't be out of pocket a lot of money.
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The price of the arrow shafts depends of how often the owner of the company buys a new car.
Which company owner buys a new car least often?
I really like this video! I’ve purchased and used Easton FMJ’s & Axis’s 300’s “Match grade” both were around $110 for a half dozen pre fletched and then I bought a half dozen maxima red sd’s $90 Pre fletched and they perform the best especially with fixed heads out of my setup ,a 2016 Halon 7 29.5 70# . I found it odd that the Cx arrows that cost $20 less performed better.”Cause usually you get what you pay for in the archery culture” so I asked my Bow Dr. At my local shop about it and he told me that it’s what your bow likes. Certain bows like a certain arrow. He compared it to firearms., some guns like A certain brand of ammunition over others. He said maxima reds are like the Hornady of arrows lol
I have used both inexpensive (cheap) arrows and expensive arrows. Unless you are shooting 3D competitions or you just like to impress people with your arrows, your arrow selection should depend on its use not price. For everyday hunting uses inexpensive arrows are sufficient.
I'd like to see you do this with traditional arrows for recurve. I see more inexpensive fletched arrows from China on ebay for $30-$50 for 12, gold tip, Easton etc want $80 for six! That's a lot for a traditional beginner shooting in my back yard!
It depends on what you do with the arrows. If you shoot at a target at 70 m with an Olympic bow and you want to hit the bull’s eye, then yeah you better use an expensive one. I use a 45 pounds Turkish bow ( thumb draw) to shoot human size target at about 60 meters and I use the cheapest arrows on Ebay and I hit the target most of the time. So it depends what you shooting at.
Agreed. When I practicing prior to season I use the cheap-o's. With in a mouth of season I switch up.
I got a dozen arrows from Amazon.
They are a bit heavy but shoot well.
I have been shooting them for about a month. They are holding up very well.
Mine are Pointdo brand.
I shoot Traditional style with a 35# recurve bow.
For outdoor practice and stumping. I would recommend them.
Not sure about compound bows though.
I love victory arrows, the vap tko in particular, i go through a fair few arrows on my channel and the tko are pretty much indestructible, amazing penetration.
I’m new to archery and have a new love. I’ve been buying cheap musen arrows on eBay only because I don’t want to loose anything too expensive right now
This. I'm not paying $150 if I'm not even able to shoot in roughly the right direction.
Thanks for this informative video. At age 63 I have been shooting bow now for 2 months. My bow and arrows come from garage sales, very inexpensive. My arrows are I think Easton aluminum shafts that needed knocks and fletching which I did myself so I now have about $50 invested in 24 arrows, now 23. At my skill level they do fine but like any shooting sport the better and more competitive you get the better your equipment may need to be. So like you say if you plan on getting better fast buy better arrows but if like myself you just want to have some fun, less expensive will likely do and you won’t spent hours looking for that expensive arrow that you missed with. : )
Couldn't agree more! I'm even shooting aluminum for all hunting and indoor seasons. So they're definitely not outdated by any means! Good luck!
Average Jack Archery Thanks your videos have been very helpful and I look forward to more.
Archery noob here...bought my used Martin Jaguar on eBay with a couple ravaged carbon express arrows in the package. Of course, I’m new and can’t hit a 24 inch target at 10 meters...went to local archery shop and had the bow set up (limited by what you can do with this bow) and bought 3 entry level Gold Points which were the correct spine and were suggested by the shop owner.
Wow! Big difference!
Then I thought, “must have more arrows!”
Bought a 12-pack for $36 on Amazon.
These arrows were all right, but after spending a few weeks shooting 18-20 meters I’m getting form together and getting much better but...
I know I’m new but when I go back to the Gold Tips and there is NO QUESTION...the Amazon arrows are okay up to a point but if you are serious about TARGET accuracy, there is a big difference.
Now, about the bow....THAT is another story I’ll be telling somewhere else...😎
Good video, I moved almost as soon as I started shooting (within weeks) from cheap aluminium arrows to Easton Powerflights which I considered very very good value and plenty accurate given that my form wasn't consistant. I did switch to a more expensive shaft in a smaller diameter with a pin nock which I now build myself as I kept damaging the Powerflights due to arrow on arrow contact at 20m/20yrds (the furthest I can practice at home) using 6 arrows on a single face target. The more expensive shafts actually worked out cheaper as the only damage they've had is having the nocks broken but they can be easily replaced and cost very little even for the Accunocks that I use.
I've been in archery most of my life. This was a very comprehensive look at arrows and prices
I've grown up shooting and huntin with a compound but I just sold my compound and bought a trad bow so I'm trying to learn how to set everything up
Great video bro , very informative . every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new about archery . thank you and keep up the great work .
i came to learn came out more confused
I'm literally giving arrows today, and then I noticed you posted a new video converting this topic. Serendipitous
Phil Rizzuti Very glad I could help in the nick of time! God bless.
Average Jack Archery Average Jack Archery I'm glad you understood what I meant... I'm buying arrows not giving them.
Thanks man and blessing to you and your family as well
My main arrow are Gold Tip Trad Classic XT's, not cheap arrows but awesome and purdy. For those possibly going to lose or break the arrow moments I like using Gold Tip Trad blems. You can buy them cheap in good numbers and then make match sets. Usually the blemish is not very noticeable but sometimes it is but when you hear when head for Narnia or break it's not so bad. Just hope to get the nock and tip back if possible.
LOL...Does purdy make em more accurate?
Do an ARROW RECOVERY video. I don't want to lose expensive arrows in the woods :( I always like finding arrows when I'm scouting though:)
DocB Don't miss. ;)
But seriously. Use bright colored fletching and wraps and it'll make it easier to find those stray shots. Good luck and God bless!
Or some lighted Nocks
hey! every time I hit with a broadhead that sucker goes through and it takes forever to find the arrow! Blood covers up the colors on the fletching. I've actually had a lot easier time recovering arrows from misses than arrows from hits
lighted nocks are illegal here in Oregon :(
Or judo tips.
I use the link boy 340 arrows from china on my compound. I got 12as a assembly yourself kit for about€57.. 003 straights throng only destroyed 2 in 6 months both hit by another compound shot. Am very happy and disagree with you comments in your video
I got tiger predator arrows 500 spine on amazon there not the best arrow but since got them after not shooting for two years and as a trend on mine said there servable for my needs till i can afford the nice arrows
my best game with those arrows using NFAA 5 spot 300 rounds was 296/300 with 36 X's
Why did so many people dislike your video? I just don’t understand the amount of passive aggressiveness on the Internet. People suck. Well done video man, you speak very well.
Samuel white RUclips channel did a much better job explaining about arrow. It not so much the quality of arrows but it's also the shooter
I don’t understand all the dislikes to be honest. His point is, the better the arrow, the tighter the group which ultimately and most likely you will have to pay a little extra for. Like he said at the end though, it’s not always a necessity. It’s okay to shoot cheaper arrows but if you’re competing you want the best arrow. Great video.
*I used to be an adventurer like you...*
lol
I prefer my practice arrows to be exactley 30.47264" Not a 100thousandth more or less.
And i use 136 grain broadhead while i practice. I shoot 2 inch stones in the hillside from 100yards away. I do go through quite a few arrows but thats okay they only cost me $250 each. Thats nothing for a profesional like me.
I've had a lot of fun with cheap carbon express arrows. I don't have very good vision so super precise accuracy isn't that important. I really wanted to shoot pistols for target practice. but my vision is even worse with one eye closed. I'm better with a bow than iron sights on a pistol.
there is nothing wrong with inexpensive arrows for average shooter as long as spine weight is correct. unless you are as good as Byron Ferguson then no need for expensive arrows. newbies shouldn't even think about expensive arrows.
expensive arrows give you bragging rights but will not make anybody a better shooter.
I agree 10000000% Spending more money doesn't make you a better archer. A really good archer can make cheap look good.
100% agree. When you are talking about the difference .006 and .004 "straightness' and 2 grains per inch (0.12 grams!) especially in traditional archery this means nothing! in terms of overall accuracy this is such a minute factor as opposed to, tuning (bow and arrows), technique and environmental conditions.
Expensive arrows are better for hunting.
I am not a Hunter nor am I a tournament shooter. I shoot at a bag target in the back yard and I also walk around in the woods and shoot at a limb or twig with a judo point. So for me the Amazon arrows are fine. I have also been known to miss the bag target and poof!! my arrow is gone. Never to be seen again.
So I just started to actually get serious about archery,bought a solution ss,which I love. I'm getting good groups but what would you recommend on where to put my equipment investments first,arrows and fletching tools etc. Or sights and rests. I'm running a whisker biscuit and s trophy ridge sight. It's alright but definitely want to upgrade. Just unsure on where to start and where to focus first. Like most of us,I don't have thousands to jus go out and buy all at once. Bought a quality bow kinda as a baseline I'd be happy with and working up from there
Good video, especially since everyone comes across these cheap selling arrows.
Thanks for this,
Watch Samuel white RUclips channel on cheap arrows
Not quite. There are a lot of independent tests on a bunch of forums that clearly show that cheaper arrows are not worse than more expensive ones.
If they hit the intended target - stick with the cheapest reliable option.
Competition level international - might think of most expensive arrows.
The more expensive options get a lot of visibility in tournaments but have to remember international high level archers are most likely given those for free as part of their sponsorhip contract. Have to find someone who has actually paid money to get unbiased views.
I believe you should get the best arrows you can afford; the arrow is what kills the animal you are after.
You wouldn't shoot a bullet with grain differences; all my arrows are spine tested and they are identical it weight, i can put a 6in plate at 80 yards and put 5 out 5 arrows in it with broadheads, you can't do this with cheap crap. As a hunter we owe it to the animals we hunt to use the best. Not trying to be negative or disrespectful, just my opinion.
tim berg We owe it to the animals we kill that all of their body is used and not wasted. Theirs nothing more sad then a wasted animal.
That's total BS.....LOLOLOLOLOL unless you're at an Olympic or a top competitive archer you're not shooting 6 inches at 60 yards
6 inches at 60 yards equals practice, not BS
tim berg lol iv killed lots of game with a maple bow I made myself and arrows it's about time with your bow and arrows not how much money you spend. You can spend 2000$ on gear but if you have only shot for two weeks you are not gonna hit kill shots every time. Iv bin shooting for 25 years and can make selfmade arrows touch dam near every time.
lol...he said 80 yards...and I call Bull
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I think unless you're a top competing archer who can replicate precisely every single shot arrow selection matters. for the rest of us it doesn't matter one jot if 2000ths of an inch difference in shaft straightness when you can't stop your bow arm shaking like a shitting dog at full draw .and if you don't think it does video yourself and you'll see how much you move it's more than 1000ths of an inch
20 meters or under I notice no difference. But 70 or 80 yards a big difference. Victory arrows , even cheap ones shoot better than other more expensive arrows. Results may vary.
I've recently bought 5 mossy oak 29 inch carbon arrows 0.003 straightness 350 spine blazer vains . They seem to fly super straight and fast deadly accurate. Do you know anything about this arrow. Like who makes it?
Last I knew it was a Victory arrow. But I could be wrong.
1 grain and 1/1000th of an inch,isn't worth $150-$200 a dozen to me.
Are cheap arrows worth the money? Yes..... Are you going to win tournaments with them? No... Because if you buy cheap arrows, it's just for fun, and archery should be fun. Cheap arrows are consistent enough for 99% of archers, because they most people don't have perfect form.
It's all relative 😉
Is it normal wear and tear to have a paint chip or scratch on your bow limbs?
I always try to be as careful as possible, but I dare anyone to find a diehard bowhunter that doesn't have some cosmetic wear on their bow. Own it long enough, track enough animals, and put it in many truck cabs, it'll show its years.
BassinTheNorth i use gold tips of fmjs when cash is a flowing .But when cash in tight i use and love carbon express predictor 2.Great arrow ive killed dozens of animals with them. My groups are allways super tight.I found they are very accurate up to 60yards i havnt tried them further as that is my max i like to shoot my bow.$80 bucks a dozen here on aus . fletch them myself with blazer vanes.Spin test perfectly with my slick tricks.
NorthwoodsWhitetails chip....? YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT LOOKED AT .....could be microscopic cracks
Jon Patterson okay but all i did was bump iton a bow rack.
NorthwoodsWhitetails you should be ok.....but that is one of the ways to watch for splitting limbs ...also listen for cracking sounds when you draw ...it might be very faint
thank you and what are the best broud heads
How bout the carbon express I got some on eBay do they work good for hunting
So basically if you're trying to split the atom from a 1000 yards, dont buy cheap arrows. Otherwise, they're fine.
Ever heard of black eagle arrows? I’m looking at buying some rampage or deep impact for next years archery season.
Jose Capablanca Yup! USA made right here in Georgia I believe....? A ton of people have started shooting them and they are great looking shafts.
Average Jack Archery thanks
Can't go wrong with Black Eagle Rampage.I have been shooting them for 3 years.They are a little on the light side for hunting,so just get the stainless steel inserts wich add 50 grains.They are micro diameter shafts and are great at longer yardage.They are cheaper than easton or gold tips with 001 straightness and are just as tough.The steel inserts greatly increase you're foc and fixed blade broadheads fly exactly like feild points provided you're bow is tuned properly and you have the spine matched with the poundage you are shooting.I'm not sponsered by Black Eagle or anything.Just a happy customer,for the price the quality is top notch.
The only difference i had, was that the spines had up to 150 tolerance difference from one arrow to the other. Beside that, i think the cheap ones are for the begining ok.
Easton power flight- cheap as they come but they always kill .
I have a video on Fletching those exact shafts!
I have been shooting for sometime and my friends agree that 98% is the shooter and less than 4% is how expensive the arrow is.
In conclusion, cheap and expensive arrows are about the same in target shooting.
Maybe I am wrong, but buy what better suits you.
What’s the best arrow for recurve #45 pounds
Seems like you touched a nerve or two with this video. Cheap or expensive is a valid question. I just bough 12 arrows for $50 off amazon that are supposed to be 500 spine carbon fiber. They looked so pretty on the screen. I thought I was saving big. No more $60 for 6 arrows for this guy. Shooting side by side there is no comparison. Those cheap arrows are much heavier and under spines for their rating hitting the target at all kinds of crazy angles. Cut my accuracy and shooting distance in half. Half price = half assed.
After hunting season last year at Walmart I bought 8 arrows the mossy oak brand 30 inch for $1.50 an arrow normally I pay 3-4$ per arrow I don't have alot of extra money to buy arrows and break them so I get them cheap when I can.
What is a inexpensive good carbon hunting arrow?
Calem Nel Did you watch the video....?
So I made a bonehead move and got a dozen of arrows a 1/4 of an inch to long then what I use should I be fine or just count my losses and sell them?
RimFireCenterFire remove the tips and shorten shaft as needed then refit, or 1/4 inch ain't worth worrying about unless you do competitions
Quick question what you u consider the best cheep arrows
Victory Sport or Gold Tip Hunters are my top budget choices.
That brightened my day that last part "Enjoy God's beautiful creation", i often forget we glorify God because he's so good. Thank you sharing this video.
Are these arrows for compound bows only?
Nope! The spine is the key. If the carbon or aluminum arrow is the right spine, you can use it out of whatever bow you want. Most recurves and longbows need 500 spine up to 1000 spine.
Did he just refer to gold tip as a budget arrow?
Yes. The (Expedition) Hunter is Gold Tip's "budget" shaft in their main consumer line.
I thought it might be +- 2 grains per inch
well i agree to what you said actually because back in time when people actually did archery for a living / war / hunting games ...... maybe goofing around they used premitove arrows and they were id say good with them because its their life style HOWEVER the main thing about straightness of an arrow is ofc a considerable accuracy in olympics ... you know you want to be the guy who's blowing the pea on the second and third lmao , thats why you need more straightness etc thats in my humble opneion BUT when you are going for hunting you need something that will work fine with you not necessary to be that expensive arrow because usually you are near the target not at 70 meters i believe ... you are hiding playing peekaboo with your prey camouflaged scent hidden with toilet papers .. i dont know maybe.. so yeah you may go for cheaper arrows because eventually you basically need something that will pierce through the flesh of your food to catch the more expensive the better but well cheap also would work depending on what you are hunting ... unpess if you are going for elephants or bears then its a different story than hunting a deer right?
Does it seem that archery is a little more complicated than its needs to be? Considering that our ancestors used a freaking stick pretty much.
Muddy outdoors bloodsport hunter arrow works great for me 🎯🏹bought a bunch of em on sale at rural king $3 ea 👍
Yeah they are good arrows I bought a bunch of them from rural king to lol but my son has been shooting them to so I’m thinking about trying those Allen kryptos I just need them to put meat on the table
How did the Indians ever survive using wooden arrows with stone points?
RDH 693 they went as groups and aimed for the head and they had spears its pretty easy if you think about it
Stone?? Pffft....you know they spent like 150$ for their arrows right?
They used razor sharp flint arrow heads, super effective and light
I actually have various arrow heads passed down through m family there legitimate arrow heads and they are pretty neat!
RDH 693 they were in a fight for survival and had to become super efficient with making a straight wood shaft and a strong rock broadhead or stick point. They were pretty clever in coming up with such primitive gear to get the job done back then.
Just think if they had the modern compounds of today back then history might have came out completely different
Thank you
How do you tune a pse bow 70 pound bow
Check out my videos on how I setup and tune all the compounds I come across!
I almost fell for the $40 amazon arrows. Luckily my shop let me test some good arrows. I started with Easton genesis and had terrible grouping. I swear the arrow looked like it was flying sideways. I tried some Black eagle vintage and it was like shooting lasers. I know they are not the best but they are so much better than the Easton low end line.
im a new hunter what arrows shoud us to hunt with my misson by mathos bow
peyton vanderpool If you're looking inexpensive (as you're shooting a more lower price bow) Easton makes the Powerflight and Carbon Storm arrows. Both are excellent shafts that will suit you wonderfully.
Okay, who wins - national champion shooting cheap arrows or you shooting any arrow you want?
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So I got to have a dozen of the youth wood arrows from three Rivers archery I'm just shooting the 20 lb but I love it wouldn't trade it for the world I've been to archery since October the 9th did not officially start till October the 10th okay I ordered cuz a budget actually I right before the budget line ....they are lucky II didn't mail them pennies but I got the half dozen 1699 youth wood arrows step outside now give them a shot but every now and then you'll find a no name half dozen or a dozen between 30 to 60 that turn out to be better than the arrows you've shot previously and then somebody do a rating on and tell everybody about how good they are for the price.... the manufacturer catches on they Jack the price up but thanks for the video
Great video, keep up great content.
I'm not exactly wealthy so i use allen kryptos they run about $4 a piece and are deadly Accurate out of my pse stinger.
And there's nothing wrong with that! Happy shooting!
I use the same arrow. Lol $3.97 each at Walmart and their even more accurate with hellfire vains. I sighted my bow in at 40 yards with the 350 kryptos and compared them to the carbon express mayhem 250/350. And chronometer says the kryptos are faster and their even more accurate. (Kryptos 296 fps )
Carbon express mayhem ( 256.8 fps ) the kryptos are 7.6 GPi 350 spine with blazer vains so their by far not a bad arrow.
"thanks for coming outside" while sitting indoors... 😂
What are your qualifications to judge any companys arrows
Thanks dude
Ive only ever shot average priced arrows.. I don't see any problems with them whatsoever.. I'm not a professional archer in the Olympics or shooting past 70 meters so it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Do these guys that post these videos really know what they talk about-doubt it?
toxy1948 If you could give insight as to what makes you believe that I'm uneducated about this topic, please let me know so I can address it! Thanks so much!
the question is why do i care about better tolerances if im only shooting recreationally
i buy my arrows from big 5....i kill consistently with them...
Thanks for the videos
Do you ever Spine Index bare shaft arrows before fletching?
Loco Badger I do not, no. I trust the manufacturers to do it for me and rely on their product. I'm pretty anal with a lot of my equipment but that's not an area I fuss over too much. :) God bless!
I like to know about my bow and arrow it is a a l.l brave2 by the company called bear here is the length of the arrows 27 inches it is the maximum weight 29 pounds
Nothing wrong with cheap blots they are fine for practice . Use your better blots for hunting
So you recommend using cheap blots, um bolts for practise and better ones for hunting...you're assuming the crap bolts and the better ones all have the same/identical accuracy. The unfortunate animal you hit several inches distant from your point of aim endures a lingering rather than a swift death, but you've saved a few bucks even if you don't recover the animal. Good one!
my brother and have killed over 75 deer with cables arrows. 77$ a dz
pretty sure dude you don't know jack if your saying cheaper arrows are not worth it then your a snob I use Accmos Arrows and they are wicket straight strong and dead on accurate of couse like any brand youll get the odd 1 or 2 dudes in a batch but that's ok they replace what you find is defective so top service from accmos 100% guarantee, i run their 500 spine arrows currently in my recurves and my compounds .. as for the weight thing even expensive arrows and tips and broadheads are never the same always a +or - on all them .. accmos also offers custom cut to lenght shaft to shaft cuts at that.. i also have some really expensive eastons and carbon rebels and a few others and you know what they are no better then the accmos you need to really..also no one needs top end arrows except for high end target shooters but for geneal target and hunting no one needs top of the line crap.. now I will say this to not totally diss you here there are some sellers on ebay and amazon that do sell total crap arrows i went for accmos because a friend has been using them for hunting and they work great for him and i Will say he is totally right hunting and target shooting great arrows and every bit as good as my more expensive stuff..
Good info
GOOD JOB!!!
I shoot Walmart broad heads and sportmens brand arrows maybe 40 bucks for 6 arrows with broad heads and they kill rabbits and deer elk squirrels lol I dont see any difference in arrows I shot max reds 90 for 6 and I shot sportmens brand 27 for 6 and cant say i see a difference nore do the animals ha ha :):)
I have to say that expensive does not make you a good Archer, a thousand dollar bow and expensive arrows dont fix stupid or ignorance am 62 years old doing this all myife I will show u my inexpensive arrows hand made will out shoot them expensive arrows anytime age does matter to
R cheap worth it
Yes for beginners on a budget which r the people that would b watching this anyways
Your proof is saying "no, is not worthy", and then you show your quiality arrows!.... hardly a good arguement! DISLIKE for not being objective!
"average jack"...then shows you HIGHEST class MOST expensive you can get...im a beginner and 34 years old..this "dont buy cheaper affordable stuff" kept me away from archery my whole young life!guys like you man...two options,expensive and more expensive..thanks for the choices.(douche kid at the range who had thousands of dollars of equipment)ill shoot my mandarin duck just the same...
Drew Dahlen Did you watch from 0:45 - 1:15 ....? This, like I started the video by saying, is a video explaining the differences between cheaper and expensive arrows. Not that you have to buy expensive things. I highly recommend you watch several other of my videos and see that I'm all about buying what is affordable for you and I wholly support people getting into archery, regardless of their budget. But thanks for your rude, condescending tone! Always an internet pleasure.
You should watch Samuel white new video
You should follow me on Facebook.....
@@averagejackarchery I don't do Facebook Samuel White has new video about those low-budget arrows
@@primal_inc Yes and if you followed me in Facebook you'd know I posted his video to my page the day he posted it. 😁
@@averagejackarchery so why do I Need to follow you on Facebook if I don't do drama book?
Cheap arrows expensive arrows all are made in China
That's not even close to 100% accurate.
Funny human beings didn't need to know any of this information for the last few thousand years to be able to hunt and fight with bow and arrow quite effectively
I think its all bullshit personally I use a $45 recurve and $1 ebay arrows I can shoot through a corrugated steel sheet with accuracy at 30 metres no probs and I started archery like 8 weeks ago
This Kid generally gives fairly good advice on topics Archery but this time, I'm afraid He's full of crap... If you're an IBO competition or Olympic Shooter then yes, arrow consistency is an essential goal and to get that level of true you are probably going to need to up your arrow anti. *BUT...FOR MOST GENERAL HUNTING AND SHOOTING, TARGET PRACTICE AND WHATNOTS...* Bargain arrows will do just fine... I promise you that at most practical hunting distances, the Deer will not know the difference and neither will you...For the record, I have several fiberglass arrows mixed in with my aluminums that I've owned since before this kid was born and I've lost count of how many animals I've killed with them. They are just about indestructible. They go where I point them EVERY SINGLE TIME....
Fireworxs2012 As much as I and everyone else who visits this channel enjoy your connotative tone, thank you for reiterating what I said in the video about how shafts are still good shafts even if they are of the budget variety. I'm sure the thousands of new archers who visit this video for years to come will come to learn so much from what you had to say. Best wishes!
Only elitists and fools spend money on expensive arrows. I've lost $10 arrows and it feels like I've taken a $10 bill and burned it. Spend your money on cheap arrows because chances are you will lose them or break them. At least you won't be out of pocket a lot of money.