🔴 SMALLEST 21mm Lens for Leica? | Voigtlander 21mm f4 Review (Color Skopar 21mm VM + LTM)
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2020
- Why I bought this lens twice! Voigtlander Color Skopar 21mm f4 Review: VM + LTM versions
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hi matt! i just bought this lens, i love your videos, and have a good memory of the workshop i didi with you 3 y ago !
Hi ,thanks and glad you are enjoying the videos! If you ever want another workshop just get in touch!
Matt thanks so much for this and your other extremely helpful Leica videos. On the basis of this review I just purchased this lens complete with viewfinder as well as a LTM-M convertor for $450 on eBay. Planning to use with my Leica iif RD as well as my M4.
Thanks Rex! Great lens and nice to hear that your enjoy the RD too! (and M4!)
I've seen several of your videos and I really appreciate the detailed info and practical insights! IN particular the differences between the 21mm Voigtlander versions l,ll, and lll. I am accustomed to using a UV filter for lens protections, but I love the mount versatility and size of the version l (the 39mm screw mount). Tough choice.
Thanks Beau! Sorry I missed this. Yes these are great lenses!
Nice review! I really love the VC 21mm and use it on L39 and M bodies. If I need the extra stop on M bodies, a ZM 28mm is handy.
Thanks Woody! Good to hear you use L39 bodies too. Yes ZM lenses are lovely for something faster.
Hi Matt, I too am on my second copy of this super little lens having sold the first to help finance a 35 f1.2 which gives me a very bright, close enough to 50 mm equivalent Pretty much some instant regret there, so lived on baked beans and margerine sandwiches for a month so that I could buy a replacement. I totally agree with you on what a super walkabout lens it is. With my M8s crop factor the 1.33 multiplier gives me a 28, which which comfortably fulfils that role whether in the street, in a cafe, or for the most part, landscapes too. Paired with the 90 mm Elmar for a bit of extra reach (120mm) it gives me a small, light, no fuss outfit for an always with me carry. Sometimes the Elmar is left at home and replaced by an f1.5 50mm voigt, 67mm with crop factor is an odd sort of focal length I know, but I can usually make it work when I want that wider aperture, and a pocket size lens another example of small and light Voigtglass. Not quite in the same league as a Summilux but neither am I as a photographer, and it's a small fraction of the price,, while having nothing I can seriously object to . These items carry comfortably in my jacket pockets, more discreet than even a well worn canvas bag.
Thanks Barry, great to hear it. Sounds like you have the perfect small setup and good to see so much love for the M8! (You and others).
Agreed. I just love it. Great walkaround lens. Set it at f/11 or 16 and practically everything is in focus. Very handy equivalent 28mm on the M8 too. I use the viewfinder on my M6 as widest framelines are 28mm, and that's a big difference.
Thanks Richard! Yes I forgot to mention I use it on the Bessa L too as everything in focus + it gives 28mm on M8 as you say.
I have for my Kiev the SC Color Skopar 1:4 21 mm . It has a rangefinder coupling and is a nice sharp lens that fits nice between the Carl Zeiss and Jupiter lenses . The 28 mm SC Skopar is on my future list .
Great to hear Peter! I love my Kiev and I have the SC 28mm. Those videos to come in the future so stay tuned! :)
It sounds an excellent buy for my Fuji XT30. I think if you put it at f8 I would think everything is in focus, thus making it a good choice for street with the crop being 31mm view. Once again thank you for an excellent video.
Thank you, yes great little lens!
Hi, thinking of throwing this on something like a Fuji xe3, just wondering if you had any issues when adapting it to a Fuji body?
Yes please, a video on the ZM 21mm; I used to have a Contax G1 with the 21mm , and that was by far the best wide angle lens I have ever used. The only reason I regret selling the G system is that 21mm
Thanks John, yep it sounds like you need the ZM ;). I will get onto it ..coming weeks.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Following up with this, how to you think the images from the 21/4 Color-Skopar compare to the ZM 21/2.8? I may have found a good price on the 21/4 locally to me.
I got the Voigtländer 21 mm in LTM several years ago before the M mount version was available and used it with a Voigtlander adapter on my Bessa R2M. Later I switched the adapter to the type II so I could code the lens for my M8. Have to admit I only tested on the M8 Last year I participated in a Leica M workshop and was able to try the Leica Super Elmar 21 mm 3.4. I was going to use the Voigtländer this year but due to the current situation it’s still on hold. Would love to see your review of the Zeis please.
Thanks RJ, yes the ZM review is on the way. Hopefully next week!
Thanks for this review, greatly done 😊
How does it perform on Leica SL ? Thinking about buying it for my SL 601
Thanks Leo. See my video M lenses on SL vs M (Lenses are better on M camera or something like this) I think I show example in that.
Hi Matt. I was just wondering about your thoughts on using 21mm for portraits. In the video you make the point about how the model would be too small a part of the image but I think I'm right in saying Jean Loup Sieff used the 21 SA for a large number of his portraits. I like the 21 and am considering getting one but I'm currently primarily interested in getting into portraits. I feel like my 50 and 135 might be fine and that the 21 will offer something 'different'.
Hi Paul, on a M it’s less easy but mounted to other body you can get very close. One of the famous street shooters switched to the 21-35R for this reason, I forget which one. Definitely fun though. I love it for street. If you want more info catch me on MrLeica.com/zoom and I’d be happy to go through lens options and FL
Would be nice if you compare this 21mm/4 vs. Leica Super-Elmar-M 21mm/3.4 ASPH. (maybe in a future episode) as well.
Thanks Sean, I’ve not used that Leica 21mm but if I ever test it yes I will be sure to share.
Hi Matt great videos like always just wondering it would be nice to see a video of voigtlander 25mm f4 color-skopar just to see what you would use this lens for. I am considering this lens for my Leica Mda Thank you
Randy Reed thanks it’s on my list for LTM lenses. I don’t have M version. I’d expect same results as 21/4 Skopar 👍🏻
All the Skopar lenses are wonderful on an ltm or M Leica. Ok, you can criticise the lenses at the extremes of aperture, but for a small and therefore easy to use lens they really take some beating. The 75mm is one of the very best, but the rare 28mm is imo the best, but this isn't to denigrate the others, I'd rather carry my 21mm Skopar than my 21mm Zeiss 2.8 Biogon.
Thanks Steve! Agreed! I've been happy with all my M and LTM Skopars... I even recently got a 28mm!! :) ... but in Contax RF mount so that's another new chapter still to come! ..I've not tried the 75mm so thanks.
This is a moot point but the Leica IIIg came out in 1957 or 1958. three or four years after the M3. Leitz did this so owners of screw mount lenses could have a new body for their optics.
I owned one many years ago. Sold it I should not have. Your videos are very informative.
Thank you yes I use the IIIG and the M3 and so for this lens I own in LTM and M mount so I can use with both cameras (I had M mount first).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom exactly
thanks for the review. How do you "code" the lens in the digital M ? I plan to buy this lens or the more recent 21mm 3.5.
Hi! I tend not to use coding but you can use a similar 21mm Leica lens as an approximation. (I used to do that when I first started with Leica).
Great video Matt , I've been looking to get the 21mm ltm version and was wondering how it performs on the m240
Hi Mark, I have the LTM too. I think the M and LTM have colour fringing on a digital M but I normally shoot B&W. Less than the 15mm though.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you Matt , enjoy your evening
Hi Matt yes interested in all Zeiss M mount glass! Would really like a 28mm Zeiss f2.8 review if you have that one? I can’t decide between that one and the Leica 28mm Elmarit M Asph!!! Anyway thanks again for your reviews very handy.
Thanks Malcolm, I only have the 21 and 25 Biogon but close enough! Will do!
Many Thanks Matt 👍🏻
Matt - thanks for this review. Would have liked to hear your experience with it on your CL. Have you done much shooting with it on the CL ???
Hi Ronald yes I use on the CL too. Nice small setup, even for portraits! Focuses closer than 0.7m.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank yo Mr. Leica. I am going to my local dealer tomorrow to shoot both the Q and the CL. I think either would suit my style of street and landscape photography so it will come down to which is more fun to shoot for me. Interchangable lens are def a plus but 28mm is my favorite focal length so more than happy with a 1.7 28mm.
@@RL-hh2tb yrs if I shot more weddings I’d get the Q. As someone pointed out the Q lens makes the body almost free :) price wise!
Jeanloup Sieff, living in France, shot his models with a 21 mm in the Seventies.
Yes! I quite like the ‘extreme’ wide look. Some great street shooters used 21mm too.
Hello Matt…. Would the Voightlander Skopar 21mm work well on a Leica SL2-s + Leica M to L adaptor.
Keep up the great informative work 👍 Cheers Michael
Hey Michael, I did a recent video, M vs SL.. maybe check that for the general subject but in brief for B&W will be fine but I think colour cast if shoot colour. The newer 21/3.5 might fix that issue.
Many thanks Matt…. Have a great weekend 👍
Has anyone compared the various 21mm viewfinders? I thought I would just use my Visoflex 020 but the battery drain is significantly greater with that in use. I wish we could turn the GPS component off as that may help reduce battery usage. Anyway, I was looking at the 21mm CV Viewfinder but it’s plastic and the front lens seems to protrude which may make it more prone to damage. I have also been looking at the 21mm Leica in plastic and metal, as well as the metal Leica Vario 21-24-28. I have been tempted by the latter but Googled what it would look like on a body and it’s huge! Then there’s the Zeiss but I’m worried that it may not be well aligned with the lens, and I walking around with a Leica body, Voigtlander lens, and Zeiss viewfinder just seems too patched-together. Any advice would be much appreciated!
Hi James, yes agreed re. EVf/ LiveView drains the battery more. I use the 21mm Voigtlander plastic finders (see the finders video) the most and for 21mm. Much better than the Zeiss and Canon finders I have. Leica metal finders are nice but yes some can be big. Yes the plastic Voigtlander ones can scratch a little but they still work the same. (Buy with a lens and sell on the lens after for a better deal). 21-25mm Voigtlander also good if you shoot any 25mm.
Is there much of a difference in image quality between the M mount and LTM? I like the silver ltm more because it matches my green R2. I would just need to get a ltm to m mount adapter?
I've not noticed any different. LTM are great as they fit Leica iii and others too. Bessa R etc.
I'm torn between the f4 color skopar and f3.5 VM 21mm. Based on image quality and suitability for wide angle portraits would you recommend one over the other? It will live on an SL for now.
If you have a choice i'd get the 3.5 as it is optimised for digital.
Thanks to you Matt I have bought this lens in LTM mount with a viewfinder.Again thanks to you I bought my first Leic a 2F in pristine condition as was the 54 Collapsible Summicron 50mm I also bought.What can I say ? Will it be better than my Fed 2 and Industar 50 supplied and serviced by the master of FSU repairs Oleg from OK Vintage Cameras Russia.Any camera from Oleg can be relied upon to not only work but be as smooth as silk.I hope my Leica gear lives up to all its hype
Thanks Peter and congrats! You should notice a difference with the lens though I’ve not used that exact version. The bodies are beautiful though I have a Zorki clone too and it’s very similar to the iiia. IiF has better finder windows. Lighter too. My fav.
Skopar at great too on any body
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Looking forward to it arriving.
@@peterrlee100 I have something coming in the post too so I know the feeling! :)
Thanks for this! I had this 21mm and also a Zeiss ZM 21mm f/4.5 a few years ago, used on the crop-sensor Ricoh GXR M-mount, and liked the Zeiss colors and output better. Now would like to pick up a Voigtlander Color Skopar 21mm again for use on my M 240. Have you noticed problems with this lens on that body, edges, color cast?
Thanks Paul, no the only lens to give me those colour cast edge issues is the Voigtlander 15mm f4.5. I need to review that too!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Matt, does the purple fringing issue persist with the Mk 3 version of this lens, or is it simply a built in issue regarding the extreme angle at which light arrives at the KAF 10 sensor of the M8 and is thus beyond elimination by design changes in the later iterations of this lens. which has been on my wish list for a while now as it would seem to be a worthwhile available option to have for my "pocket" size 2 lens pocket set- up? I'm guessing that the 10 and 12mm versions could be even more susceptible to this characteristi, but haveIa possible solution to the purple fringe dilemma for us M8 users. Go for the hyperwide versions and buy a guillotine to chop off the purply bits to an apparent 18-20 mm fov? This comes straight out of my "Art of Course Photography Handbook". I haven't published it yet, but I'm willing to give it a go if there is enough interest !
@@barryfullick7981 Thanks Barry, I believe they fixed the issue with the Mk 3 but perhaps Google it to be sure as i've not tested it. Equally i'm not sure it would be an issue on a crop body like the M8 as it only uses the centre of the lens (not the edges). Again maybe check Flickr. I only used it in B&W mode on the M8 as I shot mostly B&W when trying that setup.
Hi Matt. Nice, clear video. I'm a canon DSLR user heavily into shooting street. I'm thinking to switch and buy a Fujifilm XT3 and manual lens for zone focus. This lens looks/sounds what I'm looking for. Would I just need to get the M-F mount lens adapter to make this combo work? And any thoughts on this combo e.g. outcomes and compatibility etc? (I appreciate it would give 35mm aperture equiv which is what I want). Thanks.
Thanks Ian, i'm not up to speed on Fuji i'm afraid but yes you'd just need a M-mount adapter and you'll be good to go. It's an amazing little lens!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks Matt, much appreciated. I checked in the Wex store a couple of days ago in London and they confirmed too. I'm 99% set on getting the xt3 fuji body, adaptor, and this lens for street photography. All th best. Ian.
@@ianf8554 thanks Ian. Welcome to the world of tiny cameras with amazing optics! It’s a great place to be :)
Got this for £250 new in Japan. Only problem is I spent £150 on a second hand voigt viewfinder.
Good find! Yes these finders are not cheap sadly. I had to pay similar prices.
Nice review! Kinda curious about if this lens works well on the sony a7iii body. I'm a sony shooter and I read some reviews about the vigetting of this lens is not decent on mirrorless body. But still I have been thinking of getting one. The size of this lens is just too comfortable for streets or travel.
It’s a lovely lens. Could you just buy on Amazon and return if doesn’t ‘work’? I don’t shoot Sony so I can’t confirm I’m afraid.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for you reply! I guess I go check one out
@@juntin4339 no problem 👍🏻
You know it is said that all M lens is actually a screw mount lens with a permanent M adapter attached at the back. So do you have the experience of detached one of these lens' 'permanent' adapter and directly using them on a screw mount III ? Do you think that will work? Asking you, cos you have so many of them... Say, if I already have one of this VL 21mm in M mount, do you think I can detach the adapter and screw it into a III?
Nice idea but sadly I don't think it is possible. That's wahy many lenses were made in 2 mounts in the past.
Hi Matt, I'd like to buy the silver one (screw mount version) for my M240. Do you have tried to use it with a digitale camera? Maybe it's not a good idea? Thanks J
It might give purple fringe / edge on M240 like the 15mm. I can’t remember what I shared in the video. (I often shoot a lot of B&W). LTM should be same as M, I have both.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks a lot Matt.
Just ordered it. Buy it in Czech new, it's for 317 Pounds!
Great price! Thanks for sharing and congrats!
Hi Matt. What are the frame lines for this lens with a Leica M6? Thanks .
Hi, sorry I don’t have the lens with me to check but remember the viewfinder only goes to 28mm so you won’t have framelines for it. You need the external finder.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks
Wow!
thanks!
Your video are very interesting! I'm a pro photographer doing mostly architectural shots. I'm new to Leica, I just bought a SL2 and i'm looking for lenses. Is the Color Skopar F4 good for that? On my Sony a74 I have many Voigtlander and Zeiss manual lenses, I love them!
Thanks! If you want sharp i'd get the Zeiss Biogon 21mm f2.8 ZM instead (see that video)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks! I saw it, you say the build quality is so so! What do you think of the Voigtlander Norton 21mm f1.4?
@@stephanpoulin1308 I got a bad copy of the ZM. Still the best optics. I’ve not tried the 1.4
Zeiss is always a good idea for a video
Thanks Hans, I will put it on my list, thanks!
Hi matt! This lens Can be used for a bessa r?
Hi Diego, if you buy the LTM version then yes. (M mount no) I use both on different cameras.
What’s the length of the round lens hood in mm?
Hi Aaron, erm, 5mm ish without measuring, not deep at all.
Hi Matt, I want to buy a wide angle lens to add to my 50mm and 90mm. I'm unsure which focal length at this stage but I am considering this 21mm. Will I be able to use my Visoflex with this, or would I still need a Voigtlander viewfinder?
Hi James, sorry I missed this. Yes you can use you EVF. Check the Biogon 21 video before you buy this or message me on Patreon.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I managed to get a used copy of this lens today. To be honest, it wasn't my first choice, or my second, or probably even my third but it was what I could afford and I am sure I will love it. I love the pancake size and will shoot in black and white to avoid the Italian flag. I may play around and see if I can create a LR preset that corrects the colour cast on M10 unless someone else has already done so and is willing to share/sell it.
@@jimbob119874 Congrats James! It’s what you do with it that counts. Yes great size & perfect for BW
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The lens has arrived and I couldn't be happier. I took some test shots outside and then of a white wall. I'm happy to report that while there is some moderate vignetting (heavier in both top corners at about 2 stops darker, but certainly not terrible) the magenta colour cast is almost non-existent on my M10. The only reason I see it is because I have been pixel peeping and actively looking for it, but otherwise it wouldn't be noticed. I'll still use this primarily for black and white but it's great that I can get usable colour shots without having to spend time correcting it in post.
Hi, Is Voigtlander Color Skopar 21mm f4 is any better than Nikkor 20 mm f4 AI ? Nikkor is more affordable
I've not tried the Nikkor. Look at the Voigtland 20mm f3.5 SL lens too (Nikon F)
The Voigtländer is great. I have the 20mm Color Skopar f3.5 EF Mount and sell it, cause I changed 2 Nikon. If someone is interested....
Thanks Jens, the 20mm is fantastic! I have it in Nikon mount (see my "Best Nikon SLR lenses" video if interested)
How does it compare to the Voigtlander 21mm 3.5
Erick hi sorry I’ve not tried the f3.5 yet so I can’t compare.
Hi Matt, do I still need 21 mm external viewfinder for using this lens with Leica M8 ? Thanks
Eddie Hoang yes it still matches the lens crop but it becomes 1.33x 21mm
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you so much ❤️
Eddie Hoang no problem, feel free to join us on Patreon if you want general Leica support/ inspo/ BTS :)
Hi Matt, I own a 21mm f/4 Voigtländer and a 21mm f/2,8 Leica Elmarit Pre-aspheric. I'm not sure the Elmarit ist better than the Voigtländer!
Thanks Zehn! Interesting! ..and good to hear. TBH for me the photos from the 21/4 are so sharp I can't imagine any improvement anyway. (Though Zeiss ZM 21 is amazing too.. to follow!)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I would bet the Zeiss ZM 21 is about the Leica 21 f/2,8 Asph ;-)
I have FED2. Will it work?
Yes if you get the screw mount version. I have 2 FED2! Nice 👍🏻..remember you need viewfinder too.
What would you say, which 21mm f4 is sharper? LTM or the VM?
They should be the same but i'm sure there will be some sample variation. I use both depending on what film cameras I'm using. If using LTM film bodies I carry LTM for film and digital. (See the latest video and next video).
How does this lens compare to the 25mm snapshot?
Hi Simone, basically the same except Color Skopar are RF coupled, some Snapshot ones are not (see that video). I like the Snapshot more for scale focusing.
Any opinion on the 3.5/21 mm Voigtländer Color Skopar?
Hi no sorry I've not had the opportunity to use that lens yet. If I get chance I will share it.
I don't have either of these lenses but have been doing some research since I read your question. Some say that the f4 is better suited to film and not so good on digital while the f3.5 is better designed for digital. Some criticisms of the f4 on various forums include colour shift on the edges, strong purple shading at the edges, no red edge correction and no vignetting correction. Some of these can be corrected in post or by shooting in black and white. I hope that helps.
This seems like a lens for film rather than digital? Would you avoid shooting this on digital? You mentioned the CL later in your review. f4 v f3.5 versions?
I have shot it on digital a lot. I have recorded a video vs the 3.5 I just need to find time to post it.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Look forward to seeing that comparison video.
Why not using it on the Bessa L?
Thanks Nico. I will sorry I forgot to mention that. Because I use a lot of cameras and lenses these photos are nearly all old and at that time I used the R3A. Thanks for mentioning it.
I just purchased the 21mm 3.5. Very tiny lens but not light. Metal and glass as you say.
Hi David, yes Voigtlander are proper metal and glass lenses, not this plastic modern rubbish! :)
Interested to know if this lens has ever damaged some M9 or M10 sensors, on top of the nasty color shift issue
Hi no this lens fits like most other M lenses. There is no large rear element. Perhaps you are thinking of the Jupiter-12 lens.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Well, kenrockwell said it does. He also said the same thing about 15mm f/4.5. Beside that, I have never find anyone online showing they have used this lens (and 15mm f4.5) on a M10. I have only heard it has been used on a M240. I am a M10 owner.
@@SydneyMud thanks for explaining. I use the 15mm too. The v1 & v2 has colour issues but v3 is ok
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have just proven that VL 15mm f4.5 v1 can be used on M10. It is not too deep. It is far less so than Leica Elmar-M 50mm f2.8 collapsed. It is not going to damage the sensor.
@@SydneyMud thanks yes it is not a deep lens. I have the v1 and happily use on any camera. Elmar are fine but don’t collapse on all cameras. Thanks 👍🏻
What do you think about the new Voigtlander 21mm f3.5 color scopar ?
Hi Philip, i've not tried that version of the lens yet but Voigtlander can do nothing wrong currently with their new 35 1.2 iii, 40 1.2, 50 1.2 .. so i'm sure it will be fantastic! :)
Thanks Matt. Big fan of Voigtlander lenses. Love your work 👍🏻👍🏻
@@philipagussoegito691 Thank you!
Can I use this with a Leica M8 and get good results? Do I need anything else to use it?
Yes, the same results just cropped in by the M8 crop factor. You don't need anything else.
Matt Osborne Thank you!
Only reason why I didn't buy this lens in the past is because it does not work well on Sony MLC sensors due to its small pupil diameter. Not sure how this lens works on newer Leica cameras like the M10.
Thanks Martin. I'm now sure for the M10 but i've not heard any negatives mentioned anywhere
I just bought new M10R and tested with it all lenses I have. I took forgotten Voigt 21mm/4, tested - it works well with M10. But with Sony Alpha 7 it was disgusting. Also with M7 I not satisfied with result on film - in complicated exposure situation this 24 do not accept much light, often f/4 is too dark (like you have iso 400 speed in shadow or indoors), too contrast. Thats why I have forgotten it and now thinking to sell it off. Size no matters in case of picture quality.
This suggests a topic: Walking around with Leica. 21mm vs 24mm vs 28mm vs 35mm. I bring this up because of Leica Q2. I’m with you in that I want all the options of switching lenses. BUT if you walk around with 28mm AND you want the top of the line Leica 28mm, then maybe. Also, how about this 21mm on Leica M8?
Thanks Laurence, yes if I do a future trip where walking around a lot this is a nice idea. To spoil the simplistic view instantly though I can tell you straight away it depends where you walk. 21mm in London can be too tight. 35mm in open areas can be too wide. As experience tells me.
Matt Osborne True. Thanks for that. (I was doing film fish-eye street in NYC for quite a while, Nikon F2A with aperture stuck wide open Sigma f2.8 fish-eye) So yeah 21mm can be tight.
@@laurencegoldman4639 I've done 21mm equivalent portraits with the Hasselblad Super Wide SWC/M :)
Matt Osborne This is off topic. See what you think. ruclips.net/video/uy_xxsvaCJA/видео.html His stuff is all over RUclips.
Anyone using this lens with Fujifilm XPro3. Please do share your experiences.
I’ve not sorry..
Review it please
Hey Matt.. baby don't go too deep into specifications and comparison..photography tools are about taking photographs not how fast it can go 0 to 60.or how light or heavy the lens is.show us the fotos..cheers baby
Thanks Kevin, lots of viewers like the stats so I share that for them and the images for those that just like using there gear. The final photo is what counts as you refer to!
An old Color Skopar 21mm is just 7% cheaper than a new one.
A THIRTY Pounds difference?
No 5 years warranty.
Is mr. Photoshop a Crook ? No, he is running his shop.
Is mr. Photographer No. 1 crazy to accept a low price when selling his Voigtländer?
Is mr. Photographer No. 2 crazy to pay a "high" price for an old Color Skopar lens?
Hi Jaco, I still need to try the new one but I’m sure it’s new and improved so yes get the newer one I think.