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2023 Toyota Corolla Cross REVIEW | Wheels Australia
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Is this the end of the Corolla hatch? The new Corolla Cross isn't cheap, but it does tick a lot of boxes for today's buyers. Full story: www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/2...
Intro: 00:00
How much does it cost?: 00:52
What's it like inside: 04:06
How's the back seat?: 08:36
How is it to drive?: 11:22
Ownership: 19:01
Verdict: 20:12
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"I am John Law. This is Chasing Cars." has gone? Shocked 😳. Anyway, I like your Casio.
Was a bit surprised to see John here. Love your review as always.
This caught me off guard. John being here, that is.
I think he got exchanged from chasing cars by curt 😮😂
I heard it was a prisoner exchange between Curt and John 😂
@@53glowe yeah but we can’t say that out loud😂
I’ll take John any day…
What’s John doing here? Did John get ‘chased’ out by Tom?
Looks like a few of the old CC crew have left too :(
I thought this was Chasing Cars…
I’m also confused as I loved John’s reviews on CC
Budget Direct may have just cut the budget for CC.
I subscribe on Wheels Australia because of John. Here in South Africa it's selling well and in top 5 on sales charts every month. One need not to wait for order as it's assembled here, even for export market.
I'm now subbed to Wheels because of Johns' defection from Chasing Cars.
My favourite of all the Corolla Cross reviews. Well done.
Agreed
Ahh I was waiting for this!!! Good job!
Good review!! Like your work!!
I just tested Atmos FWD and it was a nice drive, but it could use a lot more power. I hope it will get more potent hybrid config in next facelift. The drive-away price for Atmos is very much in "entry level luxury" territory, ~$52K (FWD) and $55K (AWD). Toyota has become entry-level luxury car brand. Toyota's waiting lists (particularly for hybrids) is the longest in the industry today, ~12-18 months. It appears that people are prepared to pay extra for Toyota cars.
I love it. Test drove it and it was amazing. I feel it is great value so much so I cancelled my order of the Yaris Cross Urban Hybrid and ordered the Corolla Cross GXL hybrid.
How long is the wait time?
Wondering have you received yet?
I cancelled my RAV XSE order once Corolla Cross was released. Corolla Cross sizing is better for tight city parking spaces I need to deal with. I cannot afford a high quality EV so a quality hybrid engine 2.0 is a good option for now. Considering it’s going to cost $50K I do worry about it’s future value post 2030 when there are a lot more EVs on Australian roads. I agonise over whether to stick with my 2016 Mazda 3 and drive for another 10 years. It’s so hard to know what ICE used car market is going to look like in 10 years.
Bruising that’s for the review! I’m keen on test driving this car.
Would love to know how visible the jungle green is on the road. We don't really want a car that camouflages to the road, do we? Also, what's the road clearance like? That's a basic AWD requirement. If it's comparing to the rav4, is the road clearance higher or lower?
Excellent Review !
I had mine on November. And loved it . Please how do we turn off both heater and ac
Thank you for your coverage of the new Toyota Corolla Cross, we currently have a 2018 Corolla Hatch Hybrid with 45000 km and a 2020 Rave AWD Cruiser with 15000 km. We ordered a Corolla Cross 2WD Admos. I have been waiting for the release in Australia of the Corolla Cross and was disappointed that Toyota didn't offer a electric passengers seat (even as an option) and that the dashboard didn't have more storage space (similar to the Rave) Your comments on the headlining color is also a good call) Why the hell car manufactures think that Black is the only color for trim I don't under stand. Even with some features not being to my liking across the whole car it's great. (Yes it is over priced but so is every other car I compared) I would pay more to get the lighter color trim that I would prefer. We have really enjoyed our Hybrid Toyota's and until there's something better on the market we will keep buying Toyota Hybrids.
Wait... what's John Law doing on the Wheels channel? Did he move on from Chasing Cars? 😮
Great Review only review to mention consumption !
Miss you in Chasing Cars! Follower from India! :)
Good, so which one is more smooth, soft, and comfortable C-HR, hybrid, or Corolla Cross hybrid? Thank you.
So this is where you've gone John - missed your reviews!
best detailed review so far.... 👌
This powertrain on a Mazda cx-30 would be my perfect car.
Good review. Thanks. I am a retired single and the Corolla Cross would be plenty big enough for me. I just ordered a 2WD drive hybrid Atmos in jungle khaki. If I am paying >$52,000 for a car I hope I am offered what I want. I have to wait at least several months for it. I don't need a sunroof. The cheap look must be Toyota's way to get you to pay more for the Atmos, presumably its better.
the head unit and sound system is amazing i disagree for the atmos it is worth it and the reverse system is insane
After 9 weeks -batery had to be replaced.
I was told to drive more, just to charge the batery. It is not for seniors.
Our dealer in Devonport Tasmania said the waiting period for the Cross was 13 months!!!
Current waiting time on a hybrid AWD, 2 years.
Looks like John finished up at Chasing Cars last month.
i think everyone should consider the added price to the Rav4 in 2023 when comparing to the corolla cross, the price increase for the Rav4 in 2023 is quite a lot with both the tech upgrade price and global price increase. The corolla cross will not be only 2 grand cheaper after these added costs to the Rav4
Yes exactly, here in NZ the top-of-the-range AWD Corolla Cross is between $4-8K cheaper than a similarly spec'd RAV4 with the older tech. You can't even order a RAV4 here now, and only register interest for 2024, and I'm sure well before then (once they roll the new tech into the RAV4) there will be a price increase to further widen the gap.
Like we need another SUV, how long is the wait for one.
Damn, I was really hoping there was another reason I hadn't seen John on Chasing Cars in a while.
Does the AWD feel noticeably more comfortable than the FWD ?
Am definitely going for it.i think it is much better that the CHR again not too big like the RV4 .
There's a presenter on Chasing Cars with the exact same name and looks almost identical to John. The amount of resemblance is uncanny!
Disappointed to find I would have to choose the rav4 at this pricing even though I would prefer a smaller car. The rav4 is so much more than $2000 better. It's more powerful. It's bigger. It's actually really competent as an AWD, often managing the same territory as our heavy duty 2015 Land Rover Defender. Sigh - when will we get a compact toyota awd drive hybrid that's properly priced?
45 km on battery - now how do I convert it to a plug-in hybrid?😁
You can see the exhaust hanging down as mentioned - not much good for any sort of off-road work.
New cars are expensive due to inflation, New Zealand is worse!! Toyota New Zealand sells only 1 AWD variant which is $51k. I'm interested in the GXL NZ$44k which adds full LED lights, rear privacy, panoramic camera, and larger 10.5' display vs the NZ$41k GX base model. Back seat passengers will be pleased with the large side windows and Leg space.
No info on the hybrid specs. Battery size, how it’s charged, battery range. What transmission does it have? And what is Toyota Connected Services? Finally, what’s with this subscription service? What do you get for your money?
I definitely talked about the CVT, improved EV capacity and connected services in the review. In the meantime, all the details are here: www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/2023-toyota-corolla-cross-review-australia - John Law
I like the colour
i think the hybrid AWD system with 30kw rear motor should of been tested, the roller test would of been nice. Ie does it have the power and electronic smarts to send enough power to one wheel with grip to move the car off 3 rollers. In Tasmania the awd would be the pick of the lineup if it performs ok.
'have' not 'of'
@UClQQ5-3WflLvQLvMCVzZAzg It’s got nothing to do with being a racist.
I order one waiting and exiting 😊
Pricing is too high and the subscription for infotainment is a bad move. For similar amount of money, I might go for Haval H6 Hybrid (larger car and more gadgets), or MG4 (although that is an EV, not SUV).
So how long exactly we need to wait for this car after placing an order? 5 year? 10 years?
I can give you my gxl hybrid $3000. Extra price Brand new will be deliver 26/7
i like the corolla cross very much but i think the corolla hatch will be choice for most peoples budget wise and many other reasons dont expect to get one of these corolla cross str8 away i got told 8 month wait 😉😉
You wish, 8 mths.
Hi John I enjoyed viewing your videos, what is happening to Wheels car reviews? I have not seen any more car reviews recently, Wheels no longer review cars????
I like it.
Hey, is there a spare tyre in the back for the AWD Corolla Cross Hybrid?
It does have a spare tyre in newzealand. Not sure in other countries
@@alejandro3141 wait realy NZ has a spare in the AWD
The big killer for me is CVT . If they had a tourque converter auto I would be interested.
It’s not a traditional CTV it’s a Toyota ECTV based on a sun and planet drive system no belt and shelves.
@@Ron-uq2hg that's only on the hybrid.
The latest Toyota CVT is very good !
It's a different CVT, Direct Shift CVT with first physical gear. It's basically a combination of Auto, Manual and CVT.
@@Ron-uq2hg only on hybrid.
Good review John. For $45,000 though, you get manual seats, no rear armrest and scratchy plastic bits. For $45k of hard earned, I expect much better that that, I really do. I don't see it as value for money to be honest. And that exhaust system hanging down looks dreadful 🤨.
I also think it should have electric seats, but what other car can you get for 45k that has a good hybrid system? The hrv hybrid maybe but that’s 47k and that also gives you manual seats
Tbh I don’t see the point of electric sear adjustment without memory setting
Wow, 45k dollars is way too much. It's a Toyota corolla, not some sports or special utility vehicle, or even luxury cabin etc. The RAV4 base entry level 2022, starts at 35k.
Well buy a T Roc & pray gearbox holds up ! I wouldnt !
Good review although I disagree about the 4wd being unnecessary as not only do you get 4wd and independent suspension you also get a significantly bigger fuel tank and at only about 3.5k more then the 2wd gxl that seems like an easy decision
AWD, don't you miss out on a spare tire ?
The AWD will simply use more fuel hence theyre giving you a larger tank, it's for them subaru buyers which can also look at AWDs other than by Subaru. You really don't need them the 2wd is good enough.
I saw John in chasing cars.
I like to know, is the hybrid engine getting better than petrol engines in the long term of reliability.
Yes as the engine gets much less use ! But i always wonder about engine not warming up before use ! I guess Toyota know their stuff !
Too expensive for a humble Corolla for me.
I would never pay for an ongoing subscription. I also do not like the new info screen it hasn’t been well integrated rather stuck on the top to me.
Tbh it’s the same size as rav 4 from a decade ago and same size as Ford Escape so $34,000 isn’t that expensive
@@cityplanner3063 it is still essentially a Corolla on stilts and it is too expensive in my view.
I cannot justify spending north of $40,000 for one with all the fruit on it. As a private buyer who cares about the fleet spec GX or GXL.
I’m going for the top spec fully loaded.
What is the longevity of these things and how long until the expensive battery needs to be replaced? The older corollas when looked after have a reputation of going forever will these Hybrids live up to that reputation? Have a look around how many prius do you see on the road nowadays? As an engine reconditioner i don't take a lot of notice of car tests where they just drive a new car and tell you what they think to me the real test of a car is its longevity because us people that work on the cars do not get paid a lot of money and we like our cars to be able to go for a long time with normal servicing. History shows a lot of cars that have won car of the year have turned out to be duds after a few years and others that were called lemons have turned out to be extremely reliable cars. Not everyone can afford to change their cars every few years.
I choose the GXL petrol for the same price as GX hybrid . Happy so far. Only had it just over two months lol
May I ask how long did you wait for that?! And, from which dealership?!
@@r.a1127 that was back in November and dint have to wait because I convince the manager to give it to me as I was a good customer over the years. Brighton Toyota it was a demo car less than a month old
@@toulantaspanormitis1862 Thanks for your reply
IT's a fantastic car but! only GX and GXL makes sense from price point. Anything above you might as well get Rav 4. Bar the wait time.
Funny. It’s called Urban Khaki in The Netherlands
Who drives a toyota corolla just because it looks expensive..u drive it coz its fuel efficient and not a stressful car to have😊
Nice Review…already bought one, instead of Subaru (underpowered silky boot) or Mazda.( Silly boot)
Sweet spot would be Atmos 2WD Hybrid
If you can get one….😂
honestly AWD wise Subaru is famous for it, reviewers are says it severely lacks power.
There is nothing I want less than my car to require a subscription service
The prices are incorrect! The prices on Toyota's website are way more than quoted in this video.
I like John and I like Tom. What happened guys?!! Chasing Cars is the best channel. So sad.
It looks like Tom Baker has had a total clean-out of journos working for him. John Law has obviously come here and I haven’t seen Nathan Ponchard for a while. I don’t mind Curt Dupriez.
@@MaxFromSydney1 We love Tom, there's no bad blood (I travelled with him to Polestar 3, had a great time). We had a spot to fill and we reached out to John. Journos move around, it happens. That's life! We're stoked to have him. - Mike Stevens
See my reply to Max below! - Mike Stevens
Good luck John. Always informative with great reviews. Enjoy your new motoring home.
5.9L/100km on the highway is too high for a hybrid.
5.9 litres/100 not good. Journalists got high 3s from the sedan.
sedan easily 3.9, its a smaller engine, more lower to the ground. could get better dependin on driving. EV wil turn on around 50km to 60km depending on driving
Checking Toyota Japan webisite and find that, the 2022 facelift Corolla Cross [4WD, 1.8L + Motor, Hybrid] with old 7 inches driver display is 3,199,000 Yen, which is less than 34,000 AUD. While in Australia, the entry leve GX, FWD, 2.0 L Hybrid is almost 40,000 AUD comparing to the entry level in Japan, only 2,590,000 Yen, which is less than 27,500 AUD.
I don’t see a reason to get the Corolla cross when the RAV4 exists in nearly the same price point, especially since it has the 2.5L hybrid engine
i think that why tyota believed GX FWD hybrid would be the most sold. they should have put leather steering on GX and added the rear air vents. they really cheaped out on the designs of lower models.
Too expensive and way too close to the price point of RAV4.
Won't stop people buying it, we suspect. Time will tell! - Mike Stevens
Things aren't getting cheaper across the board, vehicle demand (especially hybrids) are at an all time high, production and shipping is still facing challenges. You can't even order let alone take delivery of a RAV4 for over a year - and a price increase will no doubt be imminent once they finally refresh it's tech etc.
Agreed, they're virtually the same price as the Rav4 but for less car
Why did you compare it to skoda kamiq ? At 32-42 k euro this is comparable to skoda karoq. Which offers a lot more space plus other things such as better seats , matrix led lights. The kamiq is a chr competitor, the karoq is a corolla cross competitor as a compact suv, while the kodiaq is a rav4 competitor. I really want ti like corolla cross but after testing it 2 times, it has terrible rear legroom, bad quality plastics, some cheap components, no underneath protection, and the copilot chair isnt that good. Toyota really cheapened out and cut down costs a lot on this one. Ive checked also the hrv from honda and it has much better quality. When i enter a rav4 from a corolla cross i can imediately feel the difference in quality for only 2-3k euro extra
😄👍best car✌️😊
Way too much road noise.
thats a vintage Casio watch
Hey John, yeah Toyota need to do more with their interior, just looks too boring. All in your new role.
I still prefer the Subaru crosstreck (new name) drives better
Yeah with underpowered 2 lt engine
The GXL is alot higher spec than the GX for not much more. Hybrid only gets 1.5 litres per hundred less than the petrol. Do not worth tge extra cost.
The petrol-only is a dog to drive, the hybrid is great, almost zippy. Worth it there alone without saving petrol. Plus official petrol consumption figures are BS. Probably more like 3 litres per hundred different.
oh no john left chasing cars 😭
Don't be sad, he's having a great time here! We've been letting him out of his cell for a few minutes of sunlight each day and he assures us he's happy.😆 - Mike
It's all BS the dealerships, especially with hybrid mainly Toyoya have their buyers by their nuts, where they want them, since covid cars are harder to get and the dealerships have now got smarter and make cars to order rather than, a supermarket and you can simply go in and buy a car and choose the color.
Would not pay any sub fee.. I am sick of subscription fees and being milked for something that shouldn't be an upcharge.
I am 196 cm, i tried to sit in it, no room.
Disapointing
I am 187 and found the same thing. Totally disappointed. Horrible rear visibility with that tiny rear window and found I had to screw the seat down as low as it goes to see under the mirror. Has a prison van feel to it.
this car is $42k but Toyota sank everything into the hybrid drivetrain... that's it. Otherwise it's a $29,990 small suv with all the cost cutting Toyota is a famous for. Realistically $40-$50k is kind o getting to be "budget"... if you go with a petrol only car then the company can splurge more on creature comforts. Your choice. To me this works well as a cheaper n/a 2.0 cvt. It would take too long to amortise the hybrid portion of the price. Or perhaps just go with the upcoming MG4 EV and skip hybrids completely.
Toyota got everything right with this car except the price. Nearly 40 grand for a lifted Corolla is a joke
This thing will go crazy with uber drivers
Is this chasing cars ?
man, the reviews (tbh) are missing some big points more and more and more
how do you tell the base model from the mid spec, "the lights"
you missed what is probably the more important lifestyle thing, (and the easiest visual cue) and that is the roof rails. you go on to mention that a surf board would fit inside so you're aware of the active type of person this might well appeal too
the other (i feel tiny thing, that is a massive fail) "the connection subscription is free for the first 12 months and then is an ongoing cost of $22.50, tell us what you think in the comments"
I think that without knowing if it is 22.50 a week, month, year would be a massive help in deciding if that is value or not (and there is no reference or context to give an idea of the time frame that 22.50 is)
you mention the USB C in the rear, and refer to there being only 1 USB A in the front, but did you look in the centre armrest, where there is in fact a USB C, and a 12volt, seem almost criminal to pick on one aspect, while ignoring that it is in truth catered for
I personally found that the black roof liner did not have that "dark and dingy" feel, in fact i thought it would, but after spending time in there, i was honestly surprised that I never felt that, (i am the same height as you, and unlike many cars, you would have to say, your eye line in reference to the windows in the rear doors, is well, not as obstructed (and something that you can clearly see in the video)
as for the remarks about the plastics, again, i think it is something missed right
you can have soft lovely feeling things in the rear seats, but the truth of the matter is, for many of the buyers of the cars, its going to have, kids, dogs, etc in the rear, not adults, (now if this was a different car, aimed at a different market i would agree) but i would dare say those materials are such that they arent easily marked, damage or tear, and are easy to clean
11:32-11:35 point in the video, i get that he is doing a bit to the camera, but, the degree in which those arms are crossed, not good, and not something a channel that is meant to be "experts" on cars, and driving should be doing
I also dont think you really understand the term "sporty" in the context you are using it
the steering is indeed light, i found lighter than the normal corolla, however what you get is a RESPONSIVE feeling car (not a sporty)
light is not sport,
tight lock to lock isnt always sporty
the handling of the car is however responsive, and very much so, also, i dont think it wasnt without feeling, there was a lot of good feel, and feedback in the steering, however that lightness did dull the normal feedback you would expect, but if you're after an engaging drive it is there, you just have to spend a lot more time with it
personal pet peeve here, you mention road noise, and kinda round about, blame the car, its often done, not just here, but it is tyres that play a better role in that, a good review would be how well the cabin isolates that noise eg " the stock tyres on the corolla cross can be a little noisey on course chip roads, not something that is uncommon in cars in the segment, however the cabin is nicely isolated from the bulk of it, you will notice it on the open roads, however it is not loud enough to distract, or tire when driving, it does however handle the wind noise from highway speeds well, so something to be aware of if you live where you are travelling those roads, and maybe speak to you local tyre shop when it is time to replace the stock tyres"
the ABS thing, well, that has a lot to do again with the tyres, and the markets that it is coded for (also, you will find that it will be tuned for looser surfaces than where you're getting the fault)
it will be a trade off, that i personally hope they dont tune out, cause on dirt, loose, or broken surface, it is perfect
as a side note, has this reviewer spent any time outside of a troc or kamiq, as well, no mention of the mazdas etc etc that are also in the segment
I personally would rather the Kona N
Very different cars in size and purpose, but yeah if we didn't need the space of the Corolla Cross, the Kona N is definitely compelling! - Mike
John shouldn’t you be at chasing cars? What are you doing here
Ongoing subscription after paying top dollar. No thanks.
Why is John here in confused
He joined us last month! www.whichcar.com.au/authors/john-law
I hope that's okay, haha. We're stoked to have him. - Mike Stevens
People change jobs man...that's the reality of most people's careers😐
@@WheelsAustralia yaaay good to see John on board. I’m guessing he thought measuring boot capacity with soccer balls was really dumb too lol.
No wireless Android Auto and a subscription service.What a joke 🤡🤡
Yer Nah.
It's Japanese.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!
Also known as stupid tax
Is it just me, or is this car just incredibly boring?
For that money, a CX5, Tucson, Sportage or a 2008 just seems so much better... and more interesting.
Too expensive... saying that Toyota will sell up a storm anyway.
Whoever the interior designer is for Toyota they need to be sacked. That interior is ugly. Just saying just my opinion
2022 and we still don’t have flying cars……….
You must be living in a Fantasy Life.
Boring car, too much plastic,too expensive
This guys on chasing cars already a disaster, now he’s on another YT channel ?!?!?
WTF !