Hybrid VS Plug In Hybrid | Which One Is Really Better To Buy?
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- Опубликовано: 13 ноя 2021
- Hybrid VS Plug In Hybrid. Which one is really better to buy? We compare and explain the difference between a hybrid vs plug in hybrid car. We also explain whether it is better to buy a hybrid car or a plug in hybrid car. If you are deciding between a hybrid and plug in hybrid car, make sure to watch this video.
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My wife and I bought a VW GTE Passat (plug-in) and we have filled it up 7 times in 1 year. We have a charger parking at our apartment complex so we basically only use gas when we go on long journeys. Along with great fuel economy we also get sports car features when we need it. Definitely the best car we have ever bought.
Still, you have to plug in the car everyday to charge and you are putting a bigger strain on the electrical company. I think Hybrid is best.
@@tuanas458 plugging in puts less strain on my wallet 😄
@@duanelong9853 true for now
You probably live in one of those upitty apartments
@@tuanas458 "Putting strain on the electric company"? LOL, seriously? That's not a thing. There's surplus power overnight, which is why the price drops during off-peak hours.
Hybrids DO have the ability to run on only electricity, like the Ford Maverick, BUT you can't select when it switches over and because their battery is much smaller, it doesn't run electric-only for very long. Just thought I'd clear that up.
Thank you I was wondering about that.
Under perfect conditions, I've managed a mile and a half on Ev mode in my hybrid honda. Not much to be sure but still is a mile and a half longer than conventional cars.
@@zl1David 2.75 miles in my Ford Fusion Hybrid very rare but mostly 1.5-2.5 miles and it runs in ev mode very short time on freeways I get 42.9 mpg haven't been to a gas station in 3 weeks
Nor can a normal (non plug in) hybrid go over 30mph without the engine kicking in. A plug-in hybrid however, can run at up to motorway/freeway speeds on battery power alone, and can undertake complete journeys of 30+ miles, without using any gas/petrol at all. A standard hybrid cannot do this.
If Ford came out with a PHEV Maverick, it'd basically be the exact vehicle I'm looking for. I'd order one almost immediately.
That was an excellent breakdown of the differences. Thanks. I got the RAV4 hybrid, and it's been a dream car.
Am getting my in couple of days what is consuption is it 900km per tank? I get hse
Thanks for the great presentation, gives me, clearly, the information needed in understanding the various concepts of the various hybrid functions.
Thanks again RBM
The best video...to the point. Information exactly i was looking for as a first time buyer.
This information was very helpful. I have a short commute to work and do not drive much otherwise, except for occasional long road trips to visit family. It sounds like the plug-in hybrid is my best choice.
Thank you for a clear explanation of the difference between these two options.
It depends on where and how the car is going to be used. I live in Montana, and distance and cold weather tell me that a hybrid would be more useful. Not everyone lives in Metro areas or corridors.
I have the hybrid 2015 Lincoln MKZ . This car has 173,000 miles on it and still delivers 38.3 miles per gallon . Very dependable. Never seen tow truck . Still looks and drives fantastic. Love it !
Wow, did you have to replace the battery? I have a 2005 Honda Accord Hybrid and the battery went at about 100K miles and was a $3K fix, and I had to beg them to warranty it for 3 years. They only wanted to do 12 months. They insisted, don't worry, we're using a genuine Honda battery. It'll last 10 years. I said, well if you believe that so much, why not give me at least 3 years? They gave me the 3 years.
I have a Hyundai Sonota hybrid that was retail priced at about 25k. With sales promotions, I paid about 23k. I now have almost 90k miles on it. Other than normal maintenance costs, I have not yet spent any money on repairs. The brakes last much longer due to the regeneration feature of the hybrid. With gasoline prices escalating, I have saved tons of money and more than recovered my extra costs. It is quiet, comfortable, economical, reliable, and stylish. What more could you possibly ask from any vehicle?
Are you selling those Korean junks?
my sister had Hyundai Sonota , and it caught fire on road.
NEVER BUY HYUNDAI. NEVER
Go for Toyota number 1 leader in hybrid now 😊
20k more than it's worth
I have a 2017 Sonata Hybrid as well and attest to the above. Never had to spend a dime other than regular oil change and tire rotation in the 8 years I’ve owned it. It runs around 40mpg for me.
Very helpful information. Thank you very much. I was fairly clueless as to the differences.
Loved the video, lot of info, precise, and accurate based on my understanding after driving hybrid for 7 years, impressed, going to subscribe too
I did buy the Rav4 Prime. As a city dweller, I am able to do almost 100% of my in-town driving on pure electric. This has the additional advantage of not contributing to the pollution haze that hangs over Phoenix, Arizona. Especially in winter when temperature inversion traps the pollution. After over 5000 miles I've average 67.7 mpg combined (USA gallons) or around 80 mpg for British gallons. I go weeks at a time without refueling and most often fuel stops are only needed when I'm driving out to the mountains on weekend getaways. On the electric plan I use the cost of electricity is around 8c to 10c per kwHr (off-peak) and the car is setup to only recharge during these periods.
One other major advantage (to me) is that the Prime is considerably more powerful than either the gas or hybrid versions of the same vehicle. This is especially pleasant when overtaking since it minimizes my at-risk time (especially on 2 lane roads). But also, if I'm honest, it is simply more fun to drive and (because of the electric motors) appreciably quieter in-town.
Yes, I freely admit it will take at least 5 years to claw back the extra money I spent on the vehicle but I'm very happy with the purchase. It's fun and I can almost always drive past the gas station without stopping. I'm planning on keeping this vehicle a long, long time so there is another factor you haven't mentioned which is this: If I drive some 75% of my time on pure electric I am not using the gas engine. So when I hit 100,000 miles on the car, the engine has only seen some 25,000 miles. So that has significant long term impact in terms of wear-and-tear to the mechanics. Electric motors, unless over-driven regularly, will last much longer than equivalent gas motors. That only leaves the transmission to consider. As the Rav4 Hybrid and Prime both use a planetary gear eCVT rather than a belt driven CVT, I expect the transmission will likely last the lifespan of the vehicle. I guess we'll see!
The problem will be when you have to buy a new hybrid battery. It may cost you $8000. So at the end you won't save what you wish. Unless you replace the car before you replace the battery.
@@Nelson-uz6ot rubbish. For starters, the battery costs $2500 plus labor. In any case, the battery is good for at least 150k miles and comes with a ten year warranty
Hi David, I also live here in the Phoenix valley. I drive over 100 miles per day and am looking between a regular hybrid and a plug in.
Could you run it without plugging it in overnight? Or do you have to charge it each night? Like, if I went down to the beach in California and didnt have a way of charging it overnight, could I still get back home and get where I need to just on the hybrid engine?
@davidgapp1457
You think you're helping the environment and pollution with that thing.
But the truth is far more complicated.
@@Dougie1969Phoenix suffers a temperature inversion layer which traps pollution. At certain times of the year we have a dense yellow haze of the city. As I'm an inner city dweller, yes, running a EV is a positive contribution to a specific problem. In terms of manufacturing issues, of course I have a battery and that's far from ideal. However it's a battery that's about 1/6th the size of a modest EV. As for personal costs, the Prime is averaging 104eMpg and that certainly doesn't hurt me. I plan to run this vehicle for at least 20 years so the carbon footprint overheads are likely mitigated by vehicle longevity. I'll report back in 17 years.
I agree with your dialog. We have a PHEV. We drive 100% electric except for occasional out of town trips. With our solar roof charging the car our operating costs are very low.
I bought my first hybrid a few months ago and am loving it, not warmed up to anything else yet!!
Great video with very useful information. Thanks for sharing. I'm considering to buy a Toyota Camry Hybrid model.
I LOVE my Rav4 Prime! I am on my 9th week of no Gas top-up, I plug it in nearly everywhere I can. If I would have known how efficient and fun it is to own a Plug in Hybrid, I would have made the switch sooner!
Please allow the battery to drop at least below 50% before recharging to keep the battery healthy.
@@DanielDuedu Not true for lithium batteries. With PHEV battery management, you can plug it in as much as possible.
@@osbornab Well noted 👍🏾.
How much you pay for eletricity? I have a hybrid RAV 4.
@@adorom may be 20 dollar more than regular price every month or less .it's worth.
I've got the prius prime which is an electric plug in and hybrid. I go about 30 miles on an electric charge. I travel a total of 18 miles a day for work. I pull it in the garage and charge it for the next day.
Because of this I can run to the mountain house and return using three gallons of gas. I go 300 miles for the weekend. I've gone 100.9 miles a gallon (my best). But my average gas mileage is 89 miles a gallon. I'm charged when I leave from home and then charge it when I get to the house. This is how I can do it.
As for the week. I use zero gas. I fill up once a month if I'm traveling to the mountain house. It's a ten gallon tank and I can go up and back three times before even considering needing gas. Pretty great stuff.
This was so helpful, thank you!
I have a KIA NIRO PHEV, bought in december 2022. Great experience and I was lucky: with 8000 km on the teller the beauty with all the luxury features was direct available from the dealer in Assen, Holland. Every day I drive some 50 km's and therefore it is just the right choice for me. I can charge at home as well as in the neighbourhood. Thank you for this video!
I charged my 2017 Prius PHEV from a regular wall socket in my garage and never installed a charging point. It worked just fine so dont assume that the expense of installing a charging point will be necessary. I drive a Corolla Hybrid now - which is a very nice car - but I miss the 90MPG I was getting from the Prius...
Why'd you get the Corolla hybrid?
Thanks for the clarity and detailed information you have provided in this video. Very helpful for understanding the differences and the salient variables of consideration for regular and plug-in hybrids and fully electric. ...Did purchase a KIA Niro Hybrid in December and we (especially my wife) really like it! One of only two then available on the dealer's lot but we got it for a fairly great price.
Im debating getting a 2022 Kia Niro Touring SE this week. Any complaints so far for your Niro?
@@MrSaxophonix None. It's serving well so far.
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I also recently purchased a Kia Niro Hybrid and me and my wife are absolutely loving it as well, great car!
Got mine last month. My only complaint is that the birds are using the car as target practice.
Thank you for a very concise and informative report!
Very informative. Also very calm voice. I subbed !
Excellent video with lots of good advice. We bought a Prius Prime about a year ago and it has been an excellent choice for us. With our driving habits we average about 2.6 L/100km, which blows the 7.7 I got on the Camry out of the water.
I was ready for a full EV, but the infrastructure around me is not. My province has a network of single stall 50 kW chargers on the biggest highways, which is just insufficient. So the PHEV was the best choice for us.
Of course every apartment building has a petrol pump for their tenants. 😁 So why are people expecting chargers? What we need are high power neighborhood charging stations where 100 km can be added in less than 5 minutes. In and out, just like fueling. What a concept!
@@fparent No but it isn't needed, a full tank of gas doesn't take long and you don't have to do it that often. Can't use a concept until it materializes.
@@fparent There used to be lots of discussion and info about the damage to batteries from charging too quickly. Now that it's being promoted as solution to range anxiety the subject has been closed.
@@fparentwait where are you where the apartments have gas pumps?
Why would you want an All Electric for long travel? Sleep over to recharge? Around town and plug in at home.
I had a 2017 Chevy Volt which us a plug-in hybrid (Gas & Electric). It advertised as charging to 55 miles, mine would always charge 60-63 miles. I owned it for 6 months and it still had the same gas from the dealer in it. I used battery power 98% of the time. I had a level 2 charger at home so it only took a few hours to charge. I rarely ever drive at night so even if I used a basic 15amp outlet in my garage and use the mobile charger that came with the car I could be full charged over night and ready to go the next morning. As I continue to look at new cars and still never see a car that a plug-in hybrid that has over a 50-55 mile charge. Chevy stop making the Volt in 2019 and which is still a great buy for a plug-in.
Thanks I needed this great detailed explanation
Great info! Thank you 👍🏻
The savings in hybrid is more than gas consumption. There is also the savings derived from maintenance items such as brakes.
Exactly. They're a better option than a turbo engine, they have great acceleration but you get less engine wear rather than more engine wear as well. I think the way they market them as just good for saving money is hurting their image.
Any car 🚗 in whole it’s life may have 3times brake changing , not that expensive
We have Prius Prime and we love it. We average about 2L/100km with combined EV and HV mode. As someone commented: To say don’t buy one because the gas might go stale is just ludicrous. In our case a single charge is enough for two days of commuting. We still have one or two trips a week that kick in the gas engine.
😂 no need to explain it to people like me I run out of gas in my Prius once a week but I'm a full time Uber driver
How mny miles do you put on your car in 2 days? Just curious how mny miles the plug in can go without the need to charge up again!!
Yes but if you don't do that you have to keep the gas engine running - and you're paying a lot for that prime and the batteries are very expensive. And the technology is even more expensive to fix.
And you have to keep recycling that gas and filling up the tank. So you can't use the prime as an electric vehicle for the majority of the time.
@@bigdogfromnj is it worth it for full time Uber driver ?
@@lazizak6064 it is absolutely worth it
This was VERY helpful; thank you 👍
We got the Ford KUGA ST Line 6 months ago here in the UK - we love it!
Made the switch to a Niro SX Touring Hybrid almost 2 years ago, and my wife and I really like this feature packed car. I plan on buying a PHEV next time.
I've had the 2015 Prius hybrid, 2017 Chevy Bolt full electric (still own), and now a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq plug-in hybrid (PHEV). The PHEV is the best of both worlds. The electric range is 29 miles, my commute is only 16 miles round trip, so I rarely have to fill up. The range using gasoline is over 550 miles, so I never have range anxiety as I do with the Bolt, so I can make long trips without having to waste time for charging. The Ioniq costs about $23K brand new, and with the $4500 federal tax credit, it will cost me about $18.5K which is way less than a regular hybrid. Cost of electricity is 6.2 cents per kWh to charge at home, which is pennies a day. With the increase price of gas currently, a PHEV is the best choice.
I appreciate your input on this, I was wondering if I could ask...how are the repair costs. For example, the repair cost on a standard toyota corolla is rather cheap(er) and the parts are always readily available. So, for a PHEV, how do the repair costs fair, cause those are huge expenses to take into consideration as well, thank you.
I wish it had more electric capacity maybe 50 miles. I do a lot of running around some days so for me I would like to see a higher range on just electric
Great video dude! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Excellent video. Thanks! (You have helped me decide in favour of a plug-in hybrid).
Great video. Excellent rationale for buying hybrid vs PHEV. 👍
Thank you for explaining these 2 types of vehicles. I wish there were more sub compact crossovers with these 2 versions. You explain all of these things so well .
Thanks for promoting these cars - especially the Plug-in Hybrid EVs (PHEV). I replaced a Toyota Avalon gas car with a PHEV (Honda Clarity) in 2019 and it was the best decision I have ever made in a vehicle purchase. Aside from the cost savings that you discuss, the Clarity provides the joy of a refined driving experience: high torque and quiet ride, and all-EV driving for 90% of my use (up to 50 miles a day which easily fits my commute and around-town use). I just plug it in at home to a normal 120V outlet overnight. And I never have to worry about finding a charger if I go farther afield. Better than an EV. No "range anxiety", and fast refill when on a trip !
I have the Volvo S60 PHEV. It's fantastic. I've had it for almost 2 years (Jan 2022) and just put my 5th tank of gas into it last week. My lifetime average for the car is 73.4 miles per gallon. Well over 90% of my driving is just errands around town and taking the boy to school. So, I'm pure electric a lot. The range is only about 25 miles, but that's plenty for me.
Great video, I love my new 2021 Eclipse Cross VRX PHEV. I do 90% of my driving in EV mode which cost $3 per 100km when running in EV. With the price of fuel on the upwards trend $2.50 here in New Zealand per liter its going to save me a lot over the years.
Thanks for your info...I'm thinking of outlander phev nz
@@vickwknand5435 the PHEV is a great balance and if you get the newer models with the 2.4 PHEV engine they can tow 1.5t. The new 2022 outlander might even tow more and has a larger EV battery to. The older models with the 2.0l engine are limited to 1t towing. Certainly saving me a lot on fuel and I can sneak out in the morning with out waking people up.
Is there a phev that is under 35k?
My 2012 Prius was totalled last week so I'm stuck with the task of finding a new car. I have been watching your videos and wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge and research. I'm still terrified by the process, but starting to feel a little better informed!
There are a ton of hybrid options available now...just not a lot of cars for sale. I recently bought a preowned Kia Niro and really love it. It really fills in the gap between the slightly cramped quarters of the Prius and the hybrid compact SUVs out there like the Escape and Rav4.
it's been 3 months since your comment so I'm assuming you bought something -- I'd love to hear what you ended up with. Just traded in my 2013 Chevy Cruze for a 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV and it's the nicest car I've ever owned... the Honda-sense can be a bit weird sometimes but I've done about 1500 miles since I bought it and put 6 gallons of gas in it.
@@mikiessj4 I bought a Kia Soul - hybrids were too expensive in this market, and I liked the safety features and roominess of the Soul. Also, I am short and feel much more comfortable in a car that sits higher. I do miss the fuel efficiency of my Prius, but I am happy with my choice.
Get the 2022 Prius prime
I just bought a Kia Sportage hybrid.
I think the most important concept of a plug in is to minimise pollution in built up areas while addressing the ev problem with longer range. As some have said access to a charger and cost are factors if it is suitable for your cercomstances.
I have the 2021 RAV4 XSE hybrid and love it. I just got the 2022 Lexus RX 450hL and love it! I switch cars every other day and I couldn’t be happier with my decisions.
I just had my 2013 Toyota Camry hybrid battery replaced at 190,000 miles. It lasted more than the warranty so I'm happy with it.
What was the cost? Thanks in advance!
Excellent video! I have a 2020 Hyundai IONIQ Hybrid and love it. I’m getting 58 mpg in town and about 54 mpg on the highway. I still haven’t decided if I wanna go full electric ⚡️ yet.
Not bad, but I got you beat. I have a 2021 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE. I get 73 mpg city and 64 mpg highway.
@@markkrispin6944 wow! That’s awesome. You got me beat lol.
@@Tonycrossfit I just returned from a road trip from NM. I averaged 63 MPG
@@markkrispin6944 wow!
Exellent breakdown of hybrid and plug-in hybrid. Everything you said cease to be on point I'm waiting for my RAV4 hybrid order October 2021 and it's just about me 2022. Really hope I get my car by Spring
Great video! I just bought the 2022 Lexus NX 450h plug in and I love it! I didn’t really know the difference between a regular hybrid and a plug in, until this video!
Do you love it. I’ve been eyeing it for a while. The dealership near me wants $25k over msrp unfortunately.
Thanks for the great video. Myself, I went the full transition to an EV. I wanted to totally break away from the gas pumps. Note - I also kept my 21 year old Monte Carlo ICE vehicle to do odd small dirty jobs if needed - still runs good. My EV Range is about 250-270 miles on single charges, and it depends on driving habits and climate changes. My daily driving is at the most 15-20 miles around town. So i can go several days before I would need to charge up. There are other features on my EV that made me choose this type of vehicle.
Not sure where gas prices are going for the future because they tend to fluctuate so much and depends on which State you live in. That said I went with my EV vehicle.
i didn't research Hybrids very much and I sure they would work fine for many people. They are still dependent on needing gas though there are some Electric Power to help them get more mileage. If I hadn't gone for the full EV, I would choose the Hybrid Plugin so I could run mostly on the Electric Battery.
Thanks and take care.
“Not sure of what gas prices will be in the future “ OR ELECTICITY 😳 except we won’t have an option with an EV
A fully EV vehicle makes senses for people in warmer climates ... however those are non starter in Canada where the temperature is sub zero for many months of the year.
We all know what happens to batteries in cold weather so an hybrid approach is much more appropriate in our case.
The Hybrid ones are best since the features has plenty of things to offer than the electric, the electric serves its purpose of recharge and discharge only, the hybrid comes in plenty. SMEs.......respectively.
Very informative review thanks for clarification 👍
I am buying hybrid kluger 2021, after ur video i feel more relaxed tht i made a very good decision.
Cheers
Big vote for the plug-in hybrid! Great video.
Also consider this…
You can make five plug-in batteries in place of an all electric EV battery. Lithium, cobalt and nickel are in short supply. Therefore you can build five plugins for each pure EV.
If a government really wants to impact gas usage, then target the commuters with a daily round trip under 50 miles that can run all electric and recharge at night. Since it’s a smaller battery it should take much less to charge. Also many companies offer free charging at work.
Plug-in hybrid baby!!!
Gas.
Exactly! Majority of people work in the Plug in's range. When you need longer range trips for weekends, you are good. So imagine everyone with a Plug in; virtually no emissions in a metropolitan, quite and clean. Multiply 5 days x52 (more or less) you got 260 days of "no cars driving". HUGE IMPACT.
As he said, look at the math! For me in my scenario, a 90K luxury Plug in hybrid comes to the same cost of a 60K regular ICE after about 5-8 yrs of ownership! So you can actually "trade in" fuel cost for more luxury all the while doing your part in reducing emissions. Be smart, go Plug in.
Alternately you could buy a local runabout only EV to do, say, 100kms. when you want to do a longer trip you rent an ICE car. This would be even cheaper and affordable and you wouldn't be carting around an ICE engine that you'd only use 10-20% of the time.
@@glennmartin6492 that's another alternative. People need to assess their lifestyle to the method of transportation only style.
I have run a BMW X3 hybrid for two years now. 20k miles and 12k of them electric, all charged at home. Electric so far works out at ~7.5p/mile. With the petrol mpg included, the average works out at over 60mpg. Not bad considering the car weighs 2 ton.
Love my Rava4 Prime, I’ve had it over a year now and with +14k miles I have nearly put in $300 in gas.
Wow!
how did you get it wtf.
Remember to put fuel stabilizer in your gas tank, don't want that engine to be running on stale gas all the time.
Can you drive the Rav4 prime in hybrid mode and never have to use the plug?
@@bryce3956 no
Excellent video. I used your service Shari and haven’t regretted it. Thank you for the service that you guys provide.
Thanks for the info. Would definitely need a regular hybrid if I get one. One way to a grocery store is 40 miles. And don't have ability to plug in anything at home.
I have a RAV4 hybrid on order since mid Aug. no word yet on when I’ll get it except not until 2022. I’m hoping for January. I’m in BC. And the plug in model is over a year! At one dealership salesman tried to tell me I should go with the gas only one because it would take years to realize a savings 😏 some will say anything to make a sale. Thank you for your honest info.
Don't fall for that desperate sales pitch!
Sounds like a salesman to me
I live in Toronto. Ordered a RAV4 Hybrid, had it a month later, it is made in Cambridge Ontario. The Prime is shipped from Japan, Toyota is saying 6 months delivery, maybe
@@jerrykrueger3410 you’re lucky I ordered the limited model hybrid mid Aug. still waiting. I’m good to get a 2022 though. Love the new headlights, power passenger seat and lighted dials
This was a very informative video for me! I've been wondering which plug-in hybrids have plug in devices that take up too much room in the cargo areas. Some of the luxury models (I think Audi is one) lose cargo space, and for those us who use the SUV's for travel, this is a negative factor. What is you your opinion on this issue?
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Plenty of room in outlander phev
In the RAV4 prime you don't lose any space at all compared to even the gasoline version
Very informative. Thank you.
Thorough. Interesting. Helpful.
Great information. I would get either hybrid or pug in hybrid. However, apart from low inventory, the market adjustment fees are sky high. That being said, buying hybrid and plugin hybrid won’t save money for gas due to additional market adjustment fees.
Going from my suv that gets 18mpg to 35mpg in ca will save
@@jaysencorbett1855 I agree, however here in Florida the additional market adjustment fee from MSRP for plugin hybrid are too much. For example the Kia Sorento plugin hybrid that I was requesting for OTD price, they added $10k and other dealerships are $15k above MSRP. The dealer said it’s because of market condition that they have mark up above MSRP. If I use that $10k mark up money with my regular gas car, in my calculation it would take 4 years for my gas expenses. With regular combustion engine vehicles, dealers willing to sell their car without market adjustment fee. For example, I just bought Hyundai palisade for my wife and Dealer gave it with MSRP. So when I am trying to save for gas in plugin hybrid, I really don’t because of too much mark up from MSRP. Thank you 😊
It's not just about gas. My Chevy Volt uses the electric engine so often, that I don't need oil changes as frequently.
Just bought a plug in. It was 8% under MSRP and will get the $7500 tax credit.
Do they give $7500 tax credit or mail a check.
There are a few more potential benefits to a PHEV over a pure Hybrid. I believe most if not all PHEV's will have more robust electric motors than the hybrid version. I think that if you drive your PHEV as a hybrid (i.e. not plugging in to charge) the battery won't be charged as often and not as full so its decline will be a lot slower than the hybrid equivalent. Heat is the enemy of batteries. The battery size of a PHEV is more likely to require liquid cooling. That is a good thing. A Liquid cooled battery will last much longer and perform better in climate extremes. With a PHEV you can recover more energy than a hybrid on a long slow descent (if you are going freeway speed on the descent you still may not do much braking hence, less charging). e.g. The descent on the Grapevine or Pacheco Pass (152) did not result in much increase in the battery charge level. The descent on Highway 180 from Sequoia and Hwy 130 from Mt. Hamilton resulted in a substantial net charge. A benefit of my Ford CMAX Energi, is I can set it to EV Later and use the charge to increase my horse power for a steep climb. The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has a feature that I wish other PHEV makes had. Nearly all cars have 115V, 150W AC Outlets that draw power from the 12V battery. The Outlook has a 115V 1,500W AC Outlet that draws the power from the big battery. When the big battery gets low, the car starts the engine to charge the battery. Think of having Lights for camping, bright lights for changing a tire on a dark night, Charging a couple laptops, powering lights in the house when power is out. Caveat - be sure to check power requirements of the device you wish to power. Some equipment needs several times the stated power to start the unit. A refrigerator for example can require several times its rated power to start its compressor.
I also have Cmax Energi and can confirm most of this. After some quick calculations about battery lifecycle costs (high $$/mile) I also always run in EV Later (hybrid) mode. Wish it would remember to start in that mode!! I'm getting 42 mpg in 70% rural highway, 30% small town. Plugin once or twice per month when battery gets down to 30%. Because it's a PHEV the car doesn't maintain 50% SOC like an HEV.
Excellent summation! I have been looking a the new Prius very seriously but trying to decide PHEV or straight hybrid. I live in an apt building with no charging but a charging station is not far from me but I may not take advantage of it but due to my sched hanging out at a charging station may not work. Two days a week I drive a little over 100 miles, so I would run out of the 50 miles electric. But, I have figured I would save around $2800 a year from what I am spending now on gas.
I love my hybrid 2022 honda insight. Just bought it 3 weeks ago . Even in winter living near Boston, i'm getting 52 mpg. No regrets.
PHEV have all the Hybrids properties plus extra EV properties, so I don’t think any one will have hard time to choose from.
Except if you do a lot of highway driving, the extra weight of the batteries means your gas usage is markedly higher than a reg hybrid.
I felt that high demand this month. I looked everywhere to find a plug-in Prius prime and it was sold out EVERYWHERE. I finally paid to reserve one that is still being shipped but couldn't test drive it because if I waited to do that, someone else would swoop in and reserve it before me. I'm so glad these types of cars are in such high demand though, it's a really good sign for our overall emissions when high fuel efficiency and clean energy options are top of the market.
Did you receive the vehicle yet?
Should have been done 50 years ago. Thanks conservatives lol.
there's nothing clean about any of this 🤦♂️
@@no834 Conservatives tend to be the smartest about conserving. You must not know many.
I have the Clarity PHEV, apart from the noisy gas engine, I love it and she saves me money
Great explanation on the subject.
Can you make a review on the 22 Honda accord hybrid?
Thank you.
Got to say PHEV is a better choice for us, over the last 8 months we only spent around $300 on gas. Est $220 of the gas are from two road trips. So yeah effectively used around $80 of gas on day to day travel(poor planning on our end).
Hi. Is its battery charged automatically when it runs on gasoline? Or, is it charged only by plugging-in?
We own 2021 Escape PHEV. Use mostly within 50km radius. We use EV only ( unless we run out of juice, then gas automatically kicks in), currently getting 2.9l/100km. We charge at home with level 2. Ford gave us the charger because we had to wait about 12 months for delivery. It was well worth the wait. I don't miss the the gas pump at all. Range drops from about 53km to about 35km in subzero weather.
And how much do you spend for electricity?
Good question
@@abdeloubaziz418 between $40-50/mth depending on time of charging.
Great info, 87 had been between 5.09 and 5.39 in my area but I don’t have anywhere to charge an electric car. Going to look for something new
Excellent video ... I knew absolutely nothing about electric cars and this cleared up things about the differences between various options. As I live in Canada where the temperature often goes below 0° C, I have always ignored all electric vehicles because we all know what happens to batteries in cold weather.
Plug-in is best for short trips around town. For longer trips a regular hybrid is better. Or if you park your car somewhere there’s no plug outlet at night, like an apartment.
with a plug in hybrid, you dont have to charge it if you dont want to..the gas engine recgharges it by itself. but if you use the ev mode only then yes only good for short trip. nut you can switch between ev mode and gas mode with the push of a button
I bought a Hyundai Santa Fe plug in last month, and I watched many of your videos to make the decision. It wasn’t cheap, but we got 4k from the government rebate, and I sold my Prius C hybrid for an excellent price. In the end,
Comparing the car's features, the price of gas in Vancouver, the km we drive per week and every other SUV on the market, the Santa Fe was the right choice for us.
Great choice! That's a very high demand model not easy to buy right now. Enjoy it!
Very good analysis. Thank you
Great video. Thank you
I was weighing purchasing an ev, plug-in or traditional hybrid. I took evs off the list because I'd rather wait a couple of years when I'm ready to give up my second car. But I really started to think through how I would manage charging a plug in on a near daily basis since my home only has semi-urban street parking. It didn't help reading a study that a high percentage of plug-in owners actually do not charge regularly and rely to a great extent on the hybrid system anyway. And I could see that I would end up doing the same frankly, instead of sitting in parking lots waiting for my car to charge. So I purchased a Lexus es 300h with Toyota's tried and true system. I've made TWO round trips from dc to nyc (along with some local driving) on about ONE tank of gas, half the usual. You also eventually learn how to drive to keep the car in ev mode particularly in city driving. Its been absolutely great.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Helps fellow travelers struggling to make similar decisions. :)
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I have a BMW i3. A unique plug in hybrid where the gasoline motor makes electricity to drive the electric wheels. 120 miles of range before you need gasoline. It is by no means perfect, but I appreciate the flexibility of being able to run on 2 different energy sources.
Clearly explained. Thank you.
I use the Tuscson Hybrid Hev in winter cause I travel to Florida, in summer I use mainly my summer car. Since I would not do much milage at home, but travelling to Florida and I don't have a place to plug in there, for me the non-plug was the way to go. Plus $8k tax incl. more expensive for the Plugin, for the kilometer I put at home, I would never save $8k in gas. Very informative video.
For most, a PHEV with a range of 50 miles & rapid charging capability would be near perfect. Quite antisocial to Bogart a charging station for 3 hrs
Bogart? Oh, man, your, err, after-hours lifestyle (or past lifestyle) is showing. Love it.
I drove a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 Chevy Volt for six years between the two. I liked them both very much. On the Gen 2 Volt, I could get as much as 60 miles battery range in warm weather and about 40 in winter. After that, the gas motor would kick in and I got about 40 mpg. If they still made them, I would be leasing one now. I now lease a Chevy Bolt which is all electric. I can only charge it to 90% due to the battery recall. Still, I get about 270 mile range in warm weather, 170 in cold. I have a level 2 home charger so can get a full charge overnight. I haven’t take. A long trip in my Bolt due to charging issues but that should change as infrastructure improves.
I still drive a 2017 Volt and love it. I only fill up my tank every 4 to 6 months and use electric for my daily drive. Sad and pissed they stopped making them.
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@@D3voidofsoul what is your average commute if you don't mind me asking
@@GO-wb1gf 22miles both ways so about 44 miles total. If I do that and a lunch run (8mi or so maybe) I use zero gas.
When running in hybrid mode, does the PHEV have better acceleration and torque compared to HEV? For example, the Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV has about 260 combined hp compared to about 220 for HEV. Does that make a difference in hybrid mode?
seriously planning to purchase a crv hybrid in the next three months because i do a lot of stop an go driving for work! seems like it would be worth it in saving gas
FYI, We own both a Toyota Rav4 Prime and a Rav 4 Hybrid, as these cars obviously have similarities Rav 4's, the difference's are night and day.
The Prime will get an average of 60+- MPG when combined with the Battery as well the Engine can charge the battery and of course you can plug it in, expect 8-10 hour charge on your typical outlet. We don't have a level two/quick charger but haven't had the need and see no reason to pay the upcharge for one. As for MPG as above, if you travel local or commute your MPG can be neglegible as your can essentailly run electric all the time at least upwards of 50 miles+-, the car has several charging options it determines while in motion extending your range somewhat, as well Plug in at your destination.
As for performance, the Prime is a sports car in disquise, it is very capable and very quick when operating in Hybrid/Electric, we're not talking Porsche handling by any means, but putting it in Sports Mode sure adds some sport to the equation. The ride is good, when in electric it is totaly silent, seats are firm, and adjustable, typical of Toyota's entry can be a head banger for taller folks. We paid 2500 over MSRP, but will recoup that plus 5K with rebates from the Goverment. The gas mileage alone makes this a no brainer with gas at 4.50 a gallon or more, we traded in a 2019 Ford Expedtion and have absolutly no regrets.
As for the Hybrid, this is our kids car it's a 21 and after using for a few road trips got me hooked in the Rav4, getting anywhere from 35-40+ MPG in a SUV albeit a smaller one is still pretty impressive, like the prime it's a Rav4, the engine does it's thing keeps the battery charged like the Prime but your limited in electric range to about 10 or so miles and the engine charges the battery, no plug in option.
With rebates the Prime if you can find one is almost a no brainer, the ride is superior, it's quicker, you lose no storage because of the bigger battery, all in all Toyota nailed this one, if they could extend the all electric to 150 miles or so with a engine this could be a perfect alternative to either a gas or all electric car.
For me the main benefit of hybrid is the real-life 800km+ range that each full tank of fuel can deliver in the case of Toyota's, making it a perfect choice for long road trips.
10 hours of driving without stopping is some achievement!
@@peebeen It gives you freedom to stop at places other than gas stations.
Exactly that’s amazing
My non hybrid 2020 clio can still get 800km though
@@Zoranurai13 In urban/city like what a hybrid can?
Thanks for the update on plug-in's.
Bought a Hybrid Ford Mondeo Estate 4 years ago. Delighted with it's performance, economy and capacity. We drive down to Southern Spain from UK with our 2 dogs a couple of times a year. In eco mode with the cruise control set at around 65 mph, we have reached almost 600 miles on a tank of petrol. That's almost right down through France where petrol is much more expensive than Spain. That's also with the aircon full on most of the way too. The tailgate is lower than most others we considered which helps when loading our dogs too.
Where I live it costs me $.08 per KWh to charge my RAV4 Prime, most I charge is usually 14 KWh. I am able to plug in at work as well and I have only filled my tank 4 times this calendar year so far. Have gone over 5200km on this ‘tank’ of fuel and went just over 3000km on each of my last two ‘tanks’ previous to this one.
Gasoline sitting degrades quickly and screws things up.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion not that quickly. I do appreciate the concern though. I don’t mean this to be snarky in any way but I actually work at a refinery as a petroleum engineer so I’m pretty confident in how much time between fill ups I have.
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And? The science please. No vague responses necessary.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion you won’t listen anyways so what’s the point? But gas is fine in a car for up to six to nine months, especially in fuel tanks that are designed to hold fuel. I wouldn’t recommend putting gas in a soda bottle in the sun for six months.
I would get one if i could FIND one
I love my jeep 4xe. One of the most efficient jeeps on the market. Haven't topped up fuel, almost four weeks now.
Purchased a new Toyota Camry Hybrid in 2007. Still running fine. We adhere to the regular servicing intervals. No battery issues. It will go a few km on battery alone if you are not aggressive with the "gas" pedal. Aggressive driving uses mostly gas engine.
No regret trading my Hyundai Sonata Turbo for Hyundai Ioniq hybrid in 2019. I spent around $300 every month for my Sonata Turbo, got an average 20-25mpg and I wasn't even drive that fast. With my Ioniq now, I got 50+mpg easily (my lowest was 52mpg) and spend around $40-50 a month as I got consistently 500+ miles per tank. Wish I got the plug-in version as I will saved even more money just from gas alone, but my circumstances back then weren't suitable for plug-in hybrid.
Thanks for sharing. I currently drive a 2011 Hyundai Sonata Turbo and with the current rebate I am actually considering making the same switch since my gas is around 300 a month atm. Its a bit ridiculous.
Also keep in mind, electricity rates generally regulated and thus stable. Not the same with gasoline. Smart employers are beginning to provide Level 2 chargers for their employees as a perk.
Thank you for your explanation.
Any advice on Kia Sportage Hybrid or PHEV? Are they competitive compared to the current Hybrid/PHEV market in the USA?
Another vote in support of the RAV4 Prime. None were available near Chicago, but I was able to get one off the lot at a dealership in NY in September. The drive home plus a road trip to Colorado put the first 4,000 miles on mostly in hybrid mode. It's a heavy car, so my highway mileage was averaging from 30-45 MPG based on actual gas purchased. After settling in with a level 2 charger at my house, rarely driving more than 40 miles in a day, my last fillup showed I got 111 MPG. Obviously, I've had some electricity costs, but at $0.13/kWh, I'm spending much less than I would on gas. Plus the convenience of almost never stopping at a gas station. Plus I can still take road trips and drive over 300 miles after a 10 minute stop at the pump. A federal tax credit brought the net purchase price down closer to the hybrid-only model.
How much did you pay?
What is the cost of the vehicle?
Our dealer is asking $10K above MSRP for the RAV4 plug-in, not worth it even after tax credit, no one has inventory
how does the federal tax credit work? Does it get applied to sticker price at dealership or just a credit at the end of year?
@@mingbihhsu1735 My (wanted) rav4 in June was 8k - 4 months later it went up to like 19k
:( its NOT worth that much. Now I'm waiting for my car industry to get its head out of its .... 😄 🤣
I started with hybrids. I still remember my first test drive of a Prius c. The engine shut off at a red light, and I asked the salesman if the car died. He told me that hybrids shut off the engine when not needed to save on gas. And sure enough, the engine came back on after the light turned green and I started moving again. That idea really clicked with me, but it did take a while to get used to not hearing the engine revving every time I stepped on the gas or was at a red light.
It also started getting me used to the idea of moving a car around without needing an engine running all the time. I got very good at coasting on my work commute, and would average about 60 mpg, and around 45 mpg in winter. That's when I started looking at plug-in hybrids.
I ended up getting a 2017 Volt later. With my work commute of around 38 miles round trip, it easily handled my work commute entirely on electric, even in winter with heater usage and snow tires. And on longer trips, or if I just forgot to plug in the previous day, I could just run it on gas. But as I got used to the silence of driving electric, hearing the engine come on started to get kind of annoying, even if I was just filling up every few months.
After about a year or so of not driving anywhere long distance, my Volt forced "FMM", or "Fuel Maintenance Mode" on me, where it forced the gas engine on to burn up the gas before it started to go bad. At that point I felt I was ready to go all electric.
GM's decision to kill off their plug-in hybrids in favor of full electric, and then only having the Bolt for sale kind of turned me off from their EV offerings, much as I loved my Volt. I ended up getting a Tesla Model Y, and haven't looked back since, while my Volt went to a gentleman who was beginning his transition to using less gas as well.
I'm happy to see that there are many other automakers making EV's now. Just a few years ago they were all screaming about how "Nobody wants electric cars!" Now they're all coming out with at least a plug-in hybrid, if not a full fledged EV.
As for fueling costs, I spend about $40-60 to drive my EV's about 1000 miles a month. Calculate your mpg on your current vehicle to get a comparison. And if you have solar, you're also capable of generating at least some of your own power for your EV, which further reduces your dependence on gas stations.
Awesome write up. I am on my journey to at least a hybrid vehicle and i will be looking around starting this Friday. The issue that ive found when i visit a toyota dealership is there are no hybrid vehicles even available on the lot. I am not familiar with the reliability of chevy vehicles and so every car ive bought was a toyota. Now with the tesla, i was also thinking of going this route but i have heard insurance is substantially more expensive (?). Please let me know what your thoughts on or choices that i could check before i buy my next vehicle. I take my son to soccer practices regularly and soccer games on the weekend. Practices are about 5-10miles away and games could be 5-50+ miles of commute each way. Please me provide me with some of your insights. Thanks and god bless!
Thanks to your Video Now I know the difference in regular hybrid & Plug in Hybrid, really I Appreciated.
I bought a 2024 Lexus RX 450h+, a plug-in hybrid SUV. I installed a level 2 charger for convenience and ability to charge the vehicle any time I need to. The vehicle runs excellently. The EV range is 37 miles and my commute to and from work is 10 miles. I charge the vehicle every other day and it takes just 2 and half hours to completely charge the 18kw battery. With my solar panel, I really do not feel any pinch in my wallet. I drive mostly in EV mode and when the EV miles got used up, the vehicle automatically switches to hybrid mode with it being transparent to me. The 14 gallons of the vehicle gives 500 miles which I seldom use unless on a long trip. The Lexus RX450h+ is the best vehicle I ever owned. I am sure loving it.