I am Chinese, and I have a question: why do every time people mention MG, say its a Chinese-owned company, but when you are English talking about Land Rover, you never mention Indian-owned, or Royce Rolls German-owned? Is that Chinese-owned something so important for you English mentioned every single time? What's the point of that?
It's a really good question, but I think it comes down to MG being a classic British brand that was dead for a long time, so we didn't see any new MG cars for many decades. It is that the rights to the name and logo has been purchased but all of the (excellent) design and engineering is fully Chinese as of course no MG actually remains in these cars as this was all fully disbanded. Saying it is Chinese owned helps to convey this in some way I guess. Land Rover and Rolls Royce are different as there was no gap in production so we are used to seeing this brand on our roads and much of the design / engineering / production still happens here in the UK. You are right that mentioning 'Chinese Owned' and not 'German Owned' / 'Indian Owned' isn't the most accurate language but MG is still relatively young and actually I fully expect they can stop saying it soon!
Arhhhh exactly. When I hear people doing reviews and making technical inaccuracies it turns me off completely as it suggests research not properly done
@vgstb but people who watch car reviews might well be interested in correct specifications. If this were a review on food then people woukd expect correct information surely
Autocar, I’ve loved this magazine for 20 years but it’s time to evolve to the standard of the the times or become irrelevant. Sorry but this is tedious, dated and not very enjoyable content.
Completely agree, although I've only been a reader/viewer for 10+ years, if it wasn't for Matt Prior I would not watch this channel and I barely read their reviews anymore because they sound like they are from the 80s (as with most written reviews nowadays). Channels like ThrottleHouse are the new benchmark in my opinion, and Harry's Garage has kept it classy and interesting since selling Evo Magazine.
If the Cyberster had a Jaguar badge on the bonnet and cost £150k I think the review would have sounded a lot more positive than this one came across. Apart from the weight penalty, the scissors doors make ingress and egress pretty easy in tight spaces. The cabin fit and finish are excellent. BMW Z4 still better cabin wise, but ICE cars are nearing the end, and most won't be allowed in city centres all over Europe soon so that driving holiday in such a car may not be possible in a few years time.
This car is very much a GT cruiser for Euro jaunts. It is not a Porsche Boxster. The Z4 has never been a benchmark dynamically and never will be. Have had a very short test drive of the Cyberster. Super smooth and cosseting. Will hopefully take it for a more revealing drive on tougher roads soon. Lack of a frunk is an oversight.
@@wasdwasdwwasd Driving dynamics seems to have been driven on track by a few people and theyre not complaining. It was co developed by Ferrari F1 engineers
@@markymarkreviews The Supra is one of the most common modern track cars here in the US. I'm sure with some modifications you could get the Z4 to handle pretty similarly to a lightly modified Supra. That said, from the factory the Z4 is tuned to be more sporty GT than a track car.
You should've given the Cyberster a review on its own. Like I know that it won't be as good as the Z4, so review it as the first mass produced EV roadster. No one is cross shopping the MG with BMW, or Porsche anyway.
They are cross shopping. A few well to do people are. Some have made orders who currently have z4 and porsche boxster. Thats what makes the British market unique.
the cyberster is better than the z4 lowkey, you can get the 500hp version for less money so its a lot quicker. And yeah it doesn't drive as well as the BMW, but its not actually designed to be a sports car, more of a gt. And them Lambo doors are sweet
In summary, this reviewer prefers the engagement of the film cameras (the noise, the feel, the repairs...) than the efficiency, smoothness, ease of operation and ownership of a digital camera. That applies to a small, and decreasing percentage of the population.
It's sickening now how every review of a Chinese made car always "tries" to point out design cues from other makes, as if 90% of cars on sale now don't look like each other anyway. Thumbs down!
I would really like how this car is designed if it wasn’t for the literal arrow taillights/blinkers. It reminds me of that horrendous Jeep Renegade that had taillights with “X”. Aside from that, I really like the design of the this car a lot.
Those dihedral doors are a bit cringe. They look great on an expensive supercar, but on a budget brand sports car trying to be something it’s not, they come off as tacky and pretentious. And what’s with the lack of shots of the car and focus on presenters face?
Why compare an EV to an ICE car if one of your grading points is does it have a petrol engine as I really like those. Started so well and some good points on drivers assist and ergonomics then just fell into petrol is better. Tell me you're biased before starting without telling me you're biased before starting. Wonder what the TCO would be for these motors for instance after 5 years. Plenty of things could have been gone over.
Depends where you live. I dropped consideration of the BMW as it's nearly twice the price of the Cyberster. Cyberster 2.5 mil baht or about 57,000 lbs. The BMW Z4 M40i 4.8 million baht or about 110,000 lbs!. The BMW M40i is the top model of the Z4. Better to compare with the Cyberster top model dual motor variant. Still cheaper and will run circles around the BMW in blissful silence. Yes, the safety and driver aid settings are admittedly a bit annoying but it's being "nit picky". Other than that the Cyberster is demonstrably the better car. I've over 5000 km on mine and recently sold my Mercedes C43 AMG Coupe. Rather have the Cyberster. Electric propulsion is simply superior. No discussion on maintenance which is hugely more expensive with the BMW. Warranty? LIFETIME with the Cyberster for motors, controllers, and BATTERY. (Thailand) Operating cost substantially lower as well. (I also have a Tesla so I have experience with near zero maintenance over ICE. I'm a modest 5'8 or 169 cm so the seating and driving position is perfect. I push the Cyberster hard in the mountains and the dual motor handles better with its 50/50 weight distribution and the acceleration out of corners just embarrasses the likes of a BMW turbo and leaves it in the dust. No need for gear changing as the response is astounding on the Cyberster. The doors. Simply elegant. The sound system,,, impressive. The boot space surprisingly spacious. Driving in "comfort" mode the Cyberster utilizes the rear motor only hence it's practical and economical. Tap the paddle to "sport" mode and the Cyberster changes it's personality and drives with both front and rear motors. A completely different experience. Hit the red "super sport" button and better be prepared for some real face ripping pull with a torque figure the BMW can only dream about. So single motor in comfort and dual motor in sport and you have enormous flexibility and it's still cheaper than BMWs high priced under performing flagship Roadster. This review was about preference for buttons and engine noise. Seriously? The reviewer needs to find another day job.
"No cheese Gromit, look at all Morris Garage Longbridge closed and razed in the name of SAIC MG Motor!", said Wallace's face on Charles (painting seeing red).
@@kristian6622 - I live in the UK. We have an MG dealer 5 mins from our house - we went to checkout the Cyberster and it looks very nice. I’m on my second EV - over 4 years driving one ⚡️👍🏻
@@Lando-kx6so Only really in name and most the money for these goes back to China. I don't buy Chinese tyres so there is no way I'll buy a Chinese car, no matter what badge it has on it.
I think the point here is that if we couldn’t buy petrol roadsters any more, thing might not be quite so bad. Let’s hope MG move a couple of the batteries and drop the seats down. While they are at it, reconsider the rear deck illusion paint thing and also the patronising rear lamps and the inappropriate name.
I would bet the MG will be more reliable than the BMW, we’ve had our MG5 from new and it’s now got 65,000 miles on it and it’s never been serviced or seen a garage. Id take the MG over the BMW any day. Not everyone wants a rock hard ride some of us just want easy and comfortable.
If you're making the assumption that "the price will sink like a stone" simply because the anti-EV media have told you to think that about electric vehicles, then you're wrong... High-End cars: Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered Audi e-tron GT Vorsprung for £98,635 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 27,000 miles is selling at £52,194 = 53% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £65,495 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 42,000 miles is selling at £32,985 = 50% resale value. Family SUVs: Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 273 mile range MG ZS EV Trophy for £24,990 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 43,000 miles is selling at £16,995 = 68% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the Citroen C5 1.2i Aircross SUV - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £29,699 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 48,700 miles is selling at £14,500 = 49% resale value. Family Hatchbacks: Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 270 mile range MG4 Trophy 5dr for £22,785 after discounts. The cheapest, 2 year old (when launched), 2022 plate used model with 13,000 miles is selling at £17,795 = 78% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the Ford Focus 1.0T Titanium Auto 5dr - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £28,041 after discounts. The cheapest, 2 year old, 2022 plate used model with 12,800 miles is selling at £15,850 = 57% resale value.
This test is just malicious. Comparing the MG, aiming to be an "eletric mx-5", to an upmarket car just to spend 15min blubering about the MG's shorfalls and Bimmer's superiority is just propaganda.
This car cost a little more than 30k British pound in China though and it s compared to a car that cost much more. Even if you factor in the British VAT (which basically you don’t pay in China if you purchase a BEV up to a certain value, what a brilliant/simple way to steer people toward BEV) it s astonishing what you can get for your money. Or maybe our beloved brands just charged us too much in the past :)
Almost all the driving problems of the MG would perhaps be solved if the battery was in T or H with the tunnel and not flat with a skate platform. And it would improve the driving position. They are in time for the 2025 model. Although next to each other there is no difference in exterior height but there is an interior one. Nice Cyberster but...
Where is the legendary MX5. The Mazda may be considerably cheaper, but there's a reason its the best selling sports car on the planet, because it does what it does, so BRILLLLLLIANTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm in this market ad I own a 1 year old sports car. I will NEVER buy a car that doesn't let me turn all that electronic crap off with an easy push of a button. Who wants a 'fun' car that constantly yells at you and tries to drive itself?
El M4 tiene esa agresividad que gusta con el sonido del motor, piezas que cambiar y sobre todo...el sonido del dinero como sale de la cartera cada vez que repostas en la gasolinera. No todo el sonido que produce, gusta. Y cuando lo hagan con puertas de guillotina al mismo precio...solo ahí estarán igualados. Si tuviera esos 63.000€ para gastar, me compraría el Cyberster con los ojos cerrados...ya que en las zonas ZBE quien podrá seguir paseando dentro de 10 años, sera el Cyberster...solo eléctricos
The BMW Z4 is the one on the way to be extincted. The market rejects them. However, the MG Cyberster is the future, it is fun, fast, stylish, with BOSS stereo and Banboo brakes, and price is so attractive, definitely is the winner.
Depends where you live. I dropped consideration of the BMW as it's nearly twice the price of the Cyberster. Cyberster 2.5 mil baht or about 57,000 lbs. The BMW Z4 M40i 4.8 million baht or about 110,000 lbs!. The BMW M40i is the top model of the Z4. Better to compare with the Cyberster top model dual motor variant. Still cheaper and will run circles around the BMW in blissful silence. Yes, the safety and driver aid settings are admittedly a bit annoying but it's being "nit picky". Other than that the Cyberster is demonstrably the better car. I've over 5000 km on mine and recently sold my Mercedes C43 AMG Coupe. Rather have the Cyberster. Electric propulsion is simply superior. No discussion on maintenance which is hugely more expensive with the BMW. Warranty? LIFETIME with the Cyberster for motors, controllers, and BATTERY. (Thailand) Operating cost substantially lower as well. (I also have a Tesla so I have experience with near zero maintenance over ICE. I'm a modest 5'8 or 169 cm so the seating and driving position is perfect. I push the Cyberster hard in the mountains and the dual motor handles better with its 50/50 weight distribution and the acceleration out of corners just embarrasses the likes of a BMW turbo and leaves it in the dust. No need for gear changing as the response is astounding on the Cyberster. The doors. Simply elegant. The sound system,,, impressive. The boot space surprisingly spacious. Driving in "comfort" mode the Cyberster utilizes the rear motor only hence it's practical and economical. Tap the paddle to "sport" mode and the Cyberster changes it's personality and drives with both front and rear motors. A completely different experience. Hit the red "super sport" button and better be prepared for some real face ripping pull with a torque figure the BMW can only dream about. So single motor in comfort and dual motor in sport and you have enormous flexibility and it's still cheaper than BMWs high priced under performing flagship Roadster. This review was about preference for buttons and engine noise. Seriously? The reviewer needs to find another day job. 15:14
Why don't test both car on the track, To see how they perform, driving dynamics are, And make comments with actions video. 15 minutes of reviewer talking is too long.
An EV roadster might be one of the most boring and pointless things that you can buy these days.. A fun weekend car with 6 cyl and MT transmission is a treat from BMW that should be taken into account as there's no other manufacturer with such an offer from now on...
With the standard of review videos currently out by Harry’s Garage and Petrol Ped, Autocar could learn a lot. This is just a dull video of someone’s face.
Quite likely. I have the twin motor MG4 and it's mental. I really like it. Took some time to get used to the power (430hp) but it's great. Some bits I don't like, but on the whole, it's high quality and cheap.
You would have to be mad to buy a Chinese EV. The depreciation will be crippling not to mention the fire hazard. Those arrow rear lights are the cheesiest thing I have seen in a long time.
@@Malc180s you might think it’s cheap tat but having owned bmw and mg’s I can tell you that the mg will be waaay more reliable than the bmw. There is a big difference between perceived quality and real quality! My last two bmw’s spent more time in the garage than on the road.
If you're making the assumption that "the re-sale value of the MG will be very low!" simply because the anti-EV media have told you to think that about electric vehicles, then you're wrong... High-End cars: Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered Audi e-tron GT Vorsprung for £98,635 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 27,000 miles is selling at £52,194 = 53% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £65,495 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 42,000 miles is selling at £32,985 = 50% resale value. Family SUVs: Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 273 mile range MG ZS EV Trophy for £24,990 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 43,000 miles is selling at £16,995 = 68% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the Citroen C5 1.2i Aircross SUV - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £29,699 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 48,700 miles is selling at £14,500 = 49% resale value. Family Hatchbacks: Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 270 mile range MG4 Trophy 5dr for £22,785 after discounts. The cheapest, 2 year old (when launched), 2022 plate used model with 13,000 miles is selling at £17,795 = 78% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the Ford Focus 1.0T Titanium Auto 5dr - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £28,041 after discounts. The cheapest, 2 year old, 2022 plate used model with 12,800 miles is selling at £15,850 = 57% resale value.
Shame when an autocar video is worse in every sense than 90% of you tuber 1 man band car reviewers. All i could do after watching this video is point matt out in a police line up.😢
mee never ever think buy singel engine mg i did buy 550 hp super car 70 000 pound its a super car have every thing you complain about 0-100 3 sec no car in phuket take me over top speed dont now here its power not aoutoban have the super car 3 month in phuket sun every day that price you get nothing
They're both ugly, cumbersome, fussy and expensive roadsters. Like having a cramped SUV or hard to manoeuvre city car; they're surely falling at the first hurdle? Only possible case for the MG is you cant wait and must have the only garish electric roadster on sale now. Boxster or latest gen Mx5 anyone?
what is embarrassing is how people still worship old Combustion cars (usually they have never driven an EV) What is more embarrassing to non EV owners is how good value for money this is, how well build, and well designed, great suspension, smooth and fast. I had a long test drive in one and it blew me away. Way better made than any European car makers that will go bust in a few years. An this has 7 year warranty too. Who cares about doors.. ?
I am Chinese, and I have a question: why do every time people mention MG, say its a Chinese-owned company, but when you are English talking about Land Rover, you never mention Indian-owned, or Royce Rolls German-owned? Is that Chinese-owned something so important for you English mentioned every single time? What's the point of that?
Fair comment 🙏
Where are the cars built?
It's a really good question, but I think it comes down to MG being a classic British brand that was dead for a long time, so we didn't see any new MG cars for many decades. It is that the rights to the name and logo has been purchased but all of the (excellent) design and engineering is fully Chinese as of course no MG actually remains in these cars as this was all fully disbanded. Saying it is Chinese owned helps to convey this in some way I guess. Land Rover and Rolls Royce are different as there was no gap in production so we are used to seeing this brand on our roads and much of the design / engineering / production still happens here in the UK. You are right that mentioning 'Chinese Owned' and not 'German Owned' / 'Indian Owned' isn't the most accurate language but MG is still relatively young and actually I fully expect they can stop saying it soon!
Yeah, it's really important. Anywhere but China
@@Hythe01 A moot point when you consider BMW builds cars in the US, and VW builds cars in Mexico
I this a review of the boy's face driving ? or cars review?
@@ericsmith506 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The BMW is not twin turbocharged, it's a twin scroll single turbo.
Arhhhh exactly. When I hear people doing reviews and making technical inaccuracies it turns me off completely as it suggests research not properly done
@@markrhoden68it suggests nobody really cares because it's actually pretty boring
@@markrhoden68 This Autocar "journalist" is more interested in fish and chips than boring technical details.
@Malc180s but it's a car review. If such things are boring to people, why watch car reviews? 🤷♂️
@vgstb but people who watch car reviews might well be interested in correct specifications.
If this were a review on food then people woukd expect correct information surely
Why do I see more of that Guy instead of the CAR!? Is it a Autocar or Boyboy channel?
@@LetsGo-wl5zo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good point
Autocar, I’ve loved this magazine for 20 years but it’s time to evolve to the standard of the the times or become irrelevant. Sorry but this is tedious, dated and not very enjoyable content.
Completely agree, although I've only been a reader/viewer for 10+ years, if it wasn't for Matt Prior I would not watch this channel and I barely read their reviews anymore because they sound like they are from the 80s (as with most written reviews nowadays). Channels like ThrottleHouse are the new benchmark in my opinion, and Harry's Garage has kept it classy and interesting since selling Evo Magazine.
Yeah… hard to make review of 2 roadsters more boring…
The cinematic couldn’t be more uninspiring
Cyberster is a terrible name. Fire that team.
They had to bag the name before Tesla did.
When a name offends you so much ??? Please
If the Cyberster had a Jaguar badge on the bonnet and cost £150k I think the review would have sounded a lot more positive than this one came across. Apart from the weight penalty, the scissors doors make ingress and egress pretty easy in tight spaces. The cabin fit and finish are excellent. BMW Z4 still better cabin wise, but ICE cars are nearing the end, and most won't be allowed in city centres all over Europe soon so that driving holiday in such a car may not be possible in a few years time.
Doors and fit and finish really matter if the driving dynamics aren't up to scratch?
This car is very much a GT cruiser for Euro jaunts. It is not a Porsche Boxster. The Z4 has never been a benchmark dynamically and never will be. Have had a very short test drive of the Cyberster. Super smooth and cosseting. Will hopefully take it for a more revealing drive on tougher roads soon. Lack of a frunk is an oversight.
@@wasdwasdwwasd Driving dynamics seems to have been driven on track by a few people and theyre not complaining. It was co developed by Ferrari F1 engineers
@@markymarkreviews The Supra is one of the most common modern track cars here in the US. I'm sure with some modifications you could get the Z4 to handle pretty similarly to a lightly modified Supra. That said, from the factory the Z4 is tuned to be more sporty GT than a track car.
nah it won't happen, and certantly not soon
You should've given the Cyberster a review on its own. Like I know that it won't be as good as the Z4, so review it as the first mass produced EV roadster. No one is cross shopping the MG with BMW, or Porsche anyway.
They are cross shopping. A few well to do people are. Some have made orders who currently have z4 and porsche boxster. Thats what makes the British market unique.
the cyberster is better than the z4 lowkey, you can get the 500hp version for less money so its a lot quicker. And yeah it doesn't drive as well as the BMW, but its not actually designed to be a sports car, more of a gt. And them Lambo doors are sweet
In summary, this reviewer prefers the engagement of the film cameras (the noise, the feel, the repairs...) than the efficiency, smoothness, ease of operation and ownership of a digital camera. That applies to a small, and decreasing percentage of the population.
It's sickening now how every review of a Chinese made car always "tries" to point out design cues from other makes, as if 90% of cars on sale now don't look like each other anyway. Thumbs down!
Typical
I would really like how this car is designed if it wasn’t for the literal arrow taillights/blinkers. It reminds me of that horrendous Jeep Renegade that had taillights with “X”. Aside from that, I really like the design of the this car a lot.
This guy is a crap reviewer. Too opinionated, too wordy and too little showing the car. Editors pls sort it out.
Those dihedral doors are a bit cringe. They look great on an expensive supercar, but on a budget brand sports car trying to be something it’s not, they come off as tacky and pretentious. And what’s with the lack of shots of the car and focus on presenters face?
At £60k it's not a budget sports car
matter of opinion, personally I love them.
Why compare an EV to an ICE car if one of your grading points is does it have a petrol engine as I really like those.
Started so well and some good points on drivers assist and ergonomics then just fell into petrol is better. Tell me you're biased before starting without telling me you're biased before starting.
Wonder what the TCO would be for these motors for instance after 5 years. Plenty of things could have been gone over.
Oi, did they just poach the PRND buttons from the C8 Corvette?
That lack of MG headroom is hilarious
Depends where you live. I dropped consideration of the BMW as it's nearly twice the price of the Cyberster. Cyberster 2.5 mil baht or about 57,000 lbs. The BMW Z4 M40i 4.8 million baht or about 110,000 lbs!. The BMW M40i is the top model of the Z4. Better to compare with the Cyberster top model dual motor variant. Still cheaper and will run circles around the BMW in blissful silence. Yes, the safety and driver aid settings are admittedly a bit annoying but it's being "nit picky". Other than that the Cyberster is demonstrably the better car. I've over 5000 km on mine and recently sold my Mercedes C43 AMG Coupe. Rather have the Cyberster. Electric propulsion is simply superior. No discussion on maintenance which is hugely more expensive with the BMW. Warranty? LIFETIME with the Cyberster for motors, controllers, and BATTERY. (Thailand) Operating cost substantially lower as well. (I also have a Tesla so I have experience with near zero maintenance over ICE. I'm a modest 5'8 or 169 cm so the seating and driving position is perfect. I push the Cyberster hard in the mountains and the dual motor handles better with its 50/50 weight distribution and the acceleration out of corners just embarrasses the likes of a BMW turbo and leaves it in the dust. No need for gear changing as the response is astounding on the Cyberster. The doors. Simply elegant. The sound system,,, impressive. The boot space surprisingly spacious. Driving in "comfort" mode the Cyberster utilizes the rear motor only hence it's practical and economical. Tap the paddle to "sport" mode and the Cyberster changes it's personality and drives with both front and rear motors. A completely different experience. Hit the red "super sport" button and better be prepared for some real face ripping pull with a torque figure the BMW can only dream about. So single motor in comfort and dual motor in sport and you have enormous flexibility and it's still cheaper than BMWs high priced under performing flagship Roadster. This review was about preference for buttons and engine noise. Seriously? The reviewer needs to find another day job.
2:08 how much is that in kilograms?
"No cheese Gromit, look at all Morris Garage Longbridge closed and razed in the name of SAIC MG Motor!", said Wallace's face on Charles (painting seeing red).
I love the Cyberster and my son wants one too.
I'm assuming you're not from the UK?
@@kristian6622 - I live in the UK. We have an MG dealer 5 mins from our house - we went to checkout the Cyberster and it looks very nice.
I’m on my second EV - over 4 years driving one ⚡️👍🏻
basically its rubbish?. just say it
His head sticked out just as much as the MG.
MG Cyberster is British. British design & imagining & British brand HQ'd in UK. It was only built in China by a Chinese manufacturer.
Still a Chinese s*** box.
@@pb5x5 it's British & it's brilliant
@@Lando-kx6so Only really in name and most the money for these goes back to China. I don't buy Chinese tyres so there is no way I'll buy a Chinese car, no matter what badge it has on it.
Mr Interesting 💤
China and "borrow" doesn't compute...
I think the point here is that if we couldn’t buy petrol roadsters any more, thing might not be quite so bad. Let’s hope MG move a couple of the batteries and drop the seats down. While they are at it, reconsider the rear deck illusion paint thing and also the patronising rear lamps and the inappropriate name.
I would bet the MG will be more reliable than the BMW, we’ve had our MG5 from new and it’s now got 65,000 miles on it and it’s never been serviced or seen a garage. Id take the MG over the BMW any day. Not everyone wants a rock hard ride some of us just want easy and comfortable.
You’ve not serviced your car in 65,000 miles?!
Tough crowd for sure.
If you really want that MG, wait a couple of years and the price will sink like a stone in the used market
If you're making the assumption that "the price will sink like a stone" simply because the anti-EV media have told you to think that about electric vehicles, then you're wrong...
High-End cars:
Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered Audi e-tron GT Vorsprung for £98,635 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 27,000 miles is selling at £52,194 = 53% resale value.
Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £65,495 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 42,000 miles is selling at £32,985 = 50% resale value.
Family SUVs:
Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 273 mile range MG ZS EV Trophy for £24,990 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 43,000 miles is selling at £16,995 = 68% resale value.
Compare that to, for example, the Citroen C5 1.2i Aircross SUV - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £29,699 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 48,700 miles is selling at £14,500 = 49% resale value.
Family Hatchbacks:
Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 270 mile range MG4 Trophy 5dr for £22,785 after discounts.
The cheapest, 2 year old (when launched), 2022 plate used model with 13,000 miles is selling at £17,795 = 78% resale value.
Compare that to, for example, the Ford Focus 1.0T Titanium Auto 5dr - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £28,041 after discounts.
The cheapest, 2 year old, 2022 plate used model with 12,800 miles is selling at £15,850 = 57% resale value.
@@jonathantaylor1998 "After discounts" is the operative here. The false economy created by subsidies from the UK and Chinese govts. will not last.
I really enjoy Autocar videos, but this one was a letdown. Why are there so many pauses between the words, let alone sentences?
Good conclusion 👍
Is it a F-Type from Temu with a 90s name?
Better interior. My mate had to mod his interior on F type
This test is just malicious. Comparing the MG, aiming to be an "eletric mx-5", to an upmarket car just to spend 15min blubering about the MG's shorfalls and Bimmer's superiority is just propaganda.
This car cost a little more than 30k British pound in China though and it s compared to a car that cost much more. Even if you factor in the British VAT (which basically you don’t pay in China if you purchase a BEV up to a certain value, what a brilliant/simple way to steer people toward BEV) it s astonishing what you can get for your money. Or maybe our beloved brands just charged us too much in the past :)
Almost all the driving problems of the MG would perhaps be solved if the battery was in T or H with the tunnel and not flat with a skate platform. And it would improve the driving position. They are in time for the 2025 model. Although next to each other there is no difference in exterior height but there is an interior one. Nice Cyberster but...
Where is the legendary MX5.
The Mazda may be considerably cheaper, but there's a reason its the best selling sports car on the planet, because it does what it does, so BRILLLLLLIANTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm in this market ad I own a 1 year old sports car. I will NEVER buy a car that doesn't let me turn all that electronic crap off with an easy push of a button. Who wants a 'fun' car that constantly yells at you and tries to drive itself?
El M4 tiene esa agresividad que gusta con el sonido del motor, piezas que cambiar y sobre todo...el sonido del dinero como sale de la cartera cada vez que repostas en la gasolinera. No todo el sonido que produce, gusta. Y cuando lo hagan con puertas de guillotina al mismo precio...solo ahí estarán igualados. Si tuviera esos 63.000€ para gastar, me compraría el Cyberster con los ojos cerrados...ya que en las zonas ZBE quien podrá seguir paseando dentro de 10 años, sera el Cyberster...solo eléctricos
An interesting test..
The BMW Z4 is the one on the way to be extincted. The market rejects them. However, the MG Cyberster is the future, it is fun, fast, stylish, with BOSS stereo and Banboo brakes, and price is so attractive, definitely is the winner.
I just cancelled my Cyberster order saved 30k and bought a z4
Depends where you live. I dropped consideration of the BMW as it's nearly twice the price of the Cyberster. Cyberster 2.5 mil baht or about 57,000 lbs. The BMW Z4 M40i 4.8 million baht or about 110,000 lbs!. The BMW M40i is the top model of the Z4. Better to compare with the Cyberster top model dual motor variant. Still cheaper and will run circles around the BMW in blissful silence. Yes, the safety and driver aid settings are admittedly a bit annoying but it's being "nit picky". Other than that the Cyberster is demonstrably the better car. I've over 5000 km on mine and recently sold my Mercedes C43 AMG Coupe. Rather have the Cyberster. Electric propulsion is simply superior. No discussion on maintenance which is hugely more expensive with the BMW. Warranty? LIFETIME with the Cyberster for motors, controllers, and BATTERY. (Thailand) Operating cost substantially lower as well. (I also have a Tesla so I have experience with near zero maintenance over ICE. I'm a modest 5'8 or 169 cm so the seating and driving position is perfect. I push the Cyberster hard in the mountains and the dual motor handles better with its 50/50 weight distribution and the acceleration out of corners just embarrasses the likes of a BMW turbo and leaves it in the dust. No need for gear changing as the response is astounding on the Cyberster. The doors. Simply elegant. The sound system,,, impressive. The boot space surprisingly spacious. Driving in "comfort" mode the Cyberster utilizes the rear motor only hence it's practical and economical. Tap the paddle to "sport" mode and the Cyberster changes it's personality and drives with both front and rear motors. A completely different experience. Hit the red "super sport" button and better be prepared for some real face ripping pull with a torque figure the BMW can only dream about. So single motor in comfort and dual motor in sport and you have enormous flexibility and it's still cheaper than BMWs high priced under performing flagship Roadster. This review was about preference for buttons and engine noise. Seriously? The reviewer needs to find another day job. 15:14
There should be a manual EV. That could spin up like an S2000 or RX7!
Why don't test both car on the track,
To see how they perform, driving dynamics are,
And make comments with actions video.
15 minutes of reviewer talking is too long.
I like 👍 the New-Look Autocar Magazine particularly the Road Tests as they look even better
Lotus should be doing what MG has done with Cyberster 😉🤟 making EV roadster
Not easy to describe something ugly as beautiful, as youre payed for. Next time!
An EV roadster might be one of the most boring and pointless things that you can buy these days..
A fun weekend car with 6 cyl and MT transmission is a treat from BMW that should be taken into account as there's no other manufacturer with such an offer from now on...
With the standard of review videos currently out by Harry’s Garage and Petrol Ped, Autocar could learn a lot. This is just a dull video of someone’s face.
Cyberster Dual motor >>> Z4
Chinese BS
Quite likely. I have the twin motor MG4 and it's mental. I really like it. Took some time to get used to the power (430hp) but it's great. Some bits I don't like, but on the whole, it's high quality and cheap.
You would have to be mad to buy a Chinese EV. The depreciation will be crippling not to mention the fire hazard. Those arrow rear lights are the cheesiest thing I have seen in a long time.
Those doors.... You can tell it's designed by new money and not class. Cheap tat
Wait for the second or third generations. The new BYD Seals and Nio's show how restrained and refined the designs from China have evolved.
@@Malc180s you might think it’s cheap tat but having owned bmw and mg’s I can tell you that the mg will be waaay more reliable than the bmw. There is a big difference between perceived quality and real quality! My last two bmw’s spent more time in the garage than on the road.
@@glideman The MG has neither. Cheap tat. Heavy under-developed trash.
Love those doors
just a door , keep calm. The rest of the car is awesome, nothing like it on the market.
the re-sale value of the MG will be very low!
If you're making the assumption that "the re-sale value of the MG will be very low!" simply because the anti-EV media have told you to think that about electric vehicles, then you're wrong...
High-End cars:
Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered Audi e-tron GT Vorsprung for £98,635 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 27,000 miles is selling at £52,194 = 53% resale value.
Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £65,495 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 42,000 miles is selling at £32,985 = 50% resale value.
Family SUVs:
Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 273 mile range MG ZS EV Trophy for £24,990 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 43,000 miles is selling at £16,995 = 68% resale value.
Compare that to, for example, the Citroen C5 1.2i Aircross SUV - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £29,699 after discounts.
The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 plate used model with 48,700 miles is selling at £14,500 = 49% resale value.
Family Hatchbacks:
Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered 270 mile range MG4 Trophy 5dr for £22,785 after discounts.
The cheapest, 2 year old (when launched), 2022 plate used model with 13,000 miles is selling at £17,795 = 78% resale value.
Compare that to, for example, the Ford Focus 1.0T Titanium Auto 5dr - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £28,041 after discounts.
The cheapest, 2 year old, 2022 plate used model with 12,800 miles is selling at £15,850 = 57% resale value.
It will be very low as it’s garbage
@@rogerhanbury677 , did you drive it, did you see in the flesh, do you won it?? NO so you cant say
@@dmomcilovic9185 I’m a mechanic I work on MGs they are crap
But you can't do "100s & 100s" of milez becauss the human body says no
Bmw yes , microwave / fridgefreeezer thing no .
Shame when an autocar video is worse in every sense than 90% of you tuber 1 man band car reviewers.
All i could do after watching this video is point matt out in a police line up.😢
What fatboy neglects to mention is that the MG is only 33k in China. The tariffs and greed of the importers puts paid to its value for money. Sigh
mee never ever think buy singel engine mg i did buy 550 hp super car 70 000 pound its a super car have every thing you complain about 0-100 3 sec no car in phuket take me over
top speed dont now here its power not aoutoban have the super car 3 month in phuket sun every day that price you get nothing
Zero interest in EV shitbox tests 🤮🤮🤮🔥🔥🔥
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MG With its Max Power Lambo doors Awful
I skipped the chinese washing machine on wheels just to watch the bmw.
stick to your old tech, and you will miss steam and horses one day.
@dmomcilovic9185 If you want to drive around in a 4,000lb washing machine be my guest.
@@robboy18 Have you ever driven a fast electric car? They are no washing machines!
@JamesHughes65 a few yeah all boring. They go fast as hell then that's it.
Land Rover also is maded in china, before it is made in uk, but as I know, Land Rover uk factory was closed
super cheap library tune
What a mismatch.
They're both ugly, cumbersome, fussy and expensive roadsters. Like having a cramped SUV or hard to manoeuvre city car; they're surely falling at the first hurdle?
Only possible case for the MG is you cant wait and must have the only garish electric roadster on sale now. Boxster or latest gen Mx5 anyone?
Please no one buy that "MG. I would not be surprised if it has some"data gathering software" in it!! It's literally the Huawei of cars!!!
put your tin hat on, and get rid of your phone, it is frying your brains
The bot responses!!! Ones a real car…ones not. Go for the z4
Go for the cyberster, better for the planet, faster and cheaper.
that is the comment of people who missed horses when combustion came about, time to move on or get left in the dust.
I’d be embarrassed getting into that MG with them stupid doors, there ok on a Ferrari but not a MG
what is embarrassing is how people still worship old Combustion cars (usually they have never driven an EV) What is more embarrassing to non EV owners is how good value for money this is, how well build, and well designed, great suspension, smooth and fast. I had a long test drive in one and it blew me away. Way better made than any European car makers that will go bust in a few years. An this has 7 year warranty too. Who cares about doors.. ?
I’m Chinese , I like the styling but I have to agree with you about those doors, I’ll be embarrassed.
@@kin9225 who cares what people think? Do they pay your bills?