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I have been watching your channel for a while. As a larger bodied (aka fat) person, I wasn't quite sure how to take your recent content. There is a snowballs chance in hell I would have the courage to step into a crossfit gym myself at this size.... I am absolutely fascinated by the sport/the games, which is how I ended up down this rabbit hole of following you. I have been surprised at actually enjoying and even being a bit inspired by the latest videos. While I will probably stay at the Y as I lose weight, this has really helped shift my mindset.
As a fellow larger body, if you want to go to a CrossFit gym then go. I was supported and encouraged even when I was too weak to support myself during a lunge. Everything can be modified. Also I felt less judged there than when I went to the Y. 😂
Dude people like you are the coolest people in the crossfit gym. When you step foot in there, you are braver than all the jacked guys in there. They had nothing to overcome walking in the door. You however prove you're a brave man willing to accept a big challenge when you walk in. Good look dude!!!
Get to the CF box. You're going to find the most supportive community in the world. Hopefully, you'll also find a great coach that is going to help you accomplish so much more than you possibly could on your own at the Y. Worst case scenario, the Y will also be there... Just go!
Sporty-Beth!.. The low tier Batman villain of the crossfit world!!!.. Throwing shade at all from up on high, riding ppl down atop her toxic high horse!!.. (She named her horse "Body Positivity") 😂😂😂
I've lost 248 lbs. Best thing I've ever done for myself. I'm 205 lbs and have 30 to 40 lbs left. My mental health has improved along with my glucose, blood pressure and all other things!
@facelessnameless I couldn't fathom charging anyone for sharing what worked for me. I want everyone to feel as good as me and enjoy a long healthy life.
I think we need a Hiller and Athena video at least once a month. This video had me 😂😂. Beth has proven about 1,000 times now how much she does not know. If she’s that “triggered” she needs to stay off the damn internet and most definitely not have a RUclips channel. Banning those that don’t have the same opinion as you is an echo chamber and you stay small minded. No growth, but maybe that is her intention?🧐 she is a train wreck and I’m not riding the crazy train. Wait until she has the baby and says “I cannot do this breastfeeding thing, it’s too HARD and I don’t have the mental space for it.” Quote me. She hasn’t scratch the surface of how hard it’s about to get with the sleep deprivation and what true exhaustion is. She has no idea, but she’s about to.
I know right. She is finding it "SO hard" at week three!! I'm sorry but she needs to stop lying to herself and face reality. Her mind will create even more problems and issues for this pregnancy and that baby as she raises it.
If you are asking the world to walk on eggshells because you will be "triggered" into a relapse, YOU have not done enough work on yourself to safely navigate that environment. So if you are on social media pushing for large bodies to get healthy as a brand but telling the world don't comment negatively because you will be triggered, you should get off social media for a while. Nice video Hiller. :)
This is SO TRUE. I am an drug addict in recovery. If people would need to consider my feelings every single time I am near them they would murder me, lol. My addiction is MY problem, not other people's. People who expect other people to chance for them are dilusional.
I worked 40 hours as a stylist on my feet all day still went to the gym everyday all the way up to my due date! Blah blah blah everyone is different but the healthier your body mass is the better your pregnancy is going to be.
Im pregnant with my 4th. I was competing in local crossfit competitions last year. I still train everyday tho not crossfit, the speed of the movements makes me super nauseous. Instead, I'm focussing on olympic lifting, swimming and running but I am still training 5- 6x a week. Mad respect to the elites who continue training throughout their pregnancy guess they're just built different.
I will say pregnancy is different for every female. Disagree 100% that a healthy body guarantees healthy pregnancy. I did zero to cause my hemmorhaging. 120lb, 5'5, half marathoner and crossfitter. On bedrest from 16 weeks til i gave birth. 2nd pregnancy, worked out until the day i gave birth and was back at the gym 5 days post partum. I usually agree with most of what you say. But healthy body does NOT guarantee healthy pregnancy just like breastfeeding does not guarantee healthy kids. (Breastfed strictly both children and 2nd born has health challenges)
But Hiller argues in another video that Tia is or has been on enhancement drugs. Sooooo....how likely is Tia to then feel the same, act the same as most women who don't use. And would Tia post a video of her NOT doing well as Hiller's other argument in that same video was that her willingness to express her weakness in the face of anything adversarial disappeared with the use of enhancement drugs. Hiller is not a doctor and is likely filtering what he hears, learns with the same filter of those that watch crime videos and think they can solve a crime.
At 11:25 Athena’s point “but is it totally up to you?” And her explanation for the question around shame and diet culture is 🙌 feel like it was a small part of this video and want to recognize it. So good, so true!
This is Athena! She and I are working together as she makes an attmept to be the first individual in CrossFit to loose over 300LBS. We have been doing a weekly podcast on Monday's discussing her progress. I should've noted all this in the video!
@@JustMove365Challenge I have watched the ones popping up on my feed. Steroid accusations. Talking about the downfall of crossfit athletes. Just not a very positive channel
Athena & Andrew, A&A, the AA, the Double A-Team... IMHO, you should absolutely name this duo. It's a terrific (Or is it terrifit 😂?) one, like salt & pepper (Salthena & PeppHiller?!!). More! Please.
Oooh ok, I really don't like sporty Beth BUT extreme morning sickness isn't related to being overweight necessarily, I was in great shape before my pregnancy but the sickness absolutely floored me. That said she is such a whiner! And the point about filming herself throwing up in the toilet cracked me up! She's so weird
Thanks for the awesome vid Andrew. Athena, you are incredible and I am so excited to watch your journey. Thank you both for inputting your thoughts on this and keep posting !!
Litterally everyone that was "big", did crossfit (or any sport), put in the effort to control their food intake, knows what youre talking about. Literally everyone. Me included. Problem is, we are not her target audience/clientele. She makes her money from the people that really need help but are afraid to face themselves and their own problems. They dont watch you or your content. Find a way to reach them.
That's her thing right? I've tried to watch a couple just so I wasn't being a "I don't like her, no I don't watch her videos" person. Like many of the "I don't like Hiller" people do. But.. I can't do it. She's toxic. Negative and just a downer. There's enough of that everywhere else, the eeyore personality doesn't belong in the crossfit space. Imo
I’m enjoying your collaboration and conversation. You’re both learning. I would love to have you bring in a perspective of someone who has gone through childbirth when not an elite athlete if you want to discuss pregnancy fitness with nuance - elite athlete moms are the exception rather than the rule. I went into second pregnancy at my healthiest ever and faced a lot of heath challenges that I don’t normally have (extremely low blood pressure, food aversions, ongoing nausea, severe sinus infections and more) that meant my normal routine was not possible. While there are issues with how Beth presents herself online and as a fitness influencer, I think it’s a challenge to discuss how pregnancy is impacting her without some additional perspective.
only halfway through so not sure if you make this point. I dont think a healthier body guarantees an easier pregnancy than someone else, BUT it does 100% guarantee an easier pregnancy than if that SAME body was less healthy… does that make sense?
in other words a healthier sportybeth will have an easier pregnancy than an unhealthy sportybeth 100% of the time, but a healthy sportybeth isnt guaranteed to have an easier pregnancy than her neighbor just bc they might have slightly worse health markers (but still probably)
Was going to say similar, also depends on definition of health. At one point Hiller mentioned they're "shredded" as if that's a health marker Interesting to compare to people who may have taken PEDs too and where that skews the "health" scale
I love this. I love the facts you’re spitting, I love the fact that BOTH of you are real and wanting to learn and stepping outside your comfort zones. I love that you are honest with yourselves and each other. It’s inspiring. Get out and do hard things. Be honest with yourself and do work. ❤
No man chooses evil because it is evil; he only mistakes it for happiness, the good he seeks. -Mary Shelley Opinion: Sporty Beth understands she’s chosen evil (bad habits and complaining of things only she can change). And is now condoning that evil instead of calling it evil and humbly making the change we all have to inevitably make to produce change.
I think she has created a narrative that she believed into existence and it’s fueled by excuses. Being pregnant is not special and women with complications in pregnancy is also not special. It’s how SB feels she needs to justify everything she does with an excuse that “is out of her control” that’s so toxic. Like no one gives a damn about what you’re doing, just quit with the victim mindset, blaming others, and constant excuses.
Athena, you are so cool, beautiful, smart, and courageous. Love everything about you. Putting all this "out there " takes balls but working hard constantly makes you a superstar. So proud of you❤ I hope you had a good time with Andrew. You're a blessed and lucky girl. Keep doing what you're doing. This is the way to permanently lose weight and gain 100 times more of so many things. Keep Hiller on his toes, lol. You got this for sure. Just remember to be patient when things get tough. If I can do it, I know you can! Much love and admiration.❤
Got any good resources you can point me to for improving toes to bar. I started trying them in August and I can only do singles. The max I’ve done in a row is 5 but they’re strict. When I try to add the kip it all falls apart.
The “you don’t learn backwards you learn forwards” is fantastic….She is now learning what her larger body can do and that’s why she is removing movements from her exercise.
Do we know where and when the seminar will be in the UK? Lots of interesting points in the video. Watched it with my wife who has been pregnant twice. She had thoughts.
As someone who is not knowledgeable with either parties - Beth's or Andrew's channel - I dont feel like fraud is the right word. Clearly she has some anxieties due to the pregnancy that may have led to some misguided changes to her routine. I do strongly agree with what Athena said on complacency. But most comments on Beths channel are more to do with her size then her actual fitness. And if we're talking about weight loss, the diet should take front and centre. Her channel isn't really about food & diet. Perhaps its too triggering for her. There was a time I could not hear about calories or macros. It would send me into a restrict and binge cycle - where I'd ultimately be fatter by the end of. If you dont have a complicated relationship with food, you simply cant relate and thats fine. But I'd recon Beth's issue with dieting and restricting is similar to what I had. It can be overcome, but its a long road that requires much emotional work.
Flat out crying about it is more like it. People were constantly pointing it out and not focusing on her fitness or performance and she was so self conscious about it. It was really heartbreaking.
I will be so glad when we are past this over exaggerating dramatic language that’s common. “It was literally wreaking absolute havoc” “it was the worst thing EVER!” “I was dying” “I was catatonic” “my elbows were going to rip off the bone” “my organs were poking out between my abs” I’m picking on her here but it’s so common. 😵💫
I think Camille Bazinet had a rough pregnancy. I used to follow sporty Beth but stopped because I didn’t agree with most of the messages she sends out. With pregnancy everyone is different so I get why she’s training how she is. 2 pregnancies, worked out during both until the day before giving birth. I also PR’d in a couple of lifts during both pregnancies 🤪 with all that being said, she is not the best example for larger body athletes. I’m 5’7 and weigh 198lbs and I don’t agree with most of what she posts. It would make sense if she would eat clean 85% of the time and exercise as much as the says she is but stays the same weight instead of feeling like you see she has gained weight since her last video. She’s only sharing what makes her look like she believes in the message she’s sending out and probably not what proves that she’s really not.
Tbh a girl used to train with us nice girl but every workout she had something wrong with her tbh just reminded me of the army where you always had the sick notes that had excuses not to do PT
We need more of like Andrew and Athena doing such videos. i feel Andrew's video can be a bit too much anger sometimes but Athena's reaction/response sort of neutralize or makes what Andrew spew out becomes more chewable lol. But overall good content. Athena is 10/10. come on Andrew HAHAHA ....
She’s totally not on her stories trying to act like she doesn’t care about her “trolls” when clearly she does. I do hope she gets the help she needs, both mentally and physically.
1: I was waiting for this. 2: I AM NOT AN OB, but I have carried and birthed 4 humans. The Pulling feeling in the abdomen is something we're warned about usually into the 3rd trimester. Early warning signs of diastasis recti. If she already had it, best to be careful there but it is "generally" in relation to kipping motions. Not strict. 3: @athenaperez you are just a cool human. Your skin is glowing and the "diet" is showing its benefits!
From what I have seen in her clips on her channel there is no way I would follow her lead on any level of fitness or nutrition. I feel sorry for the individuals who have wasted their time and money having her as a coach. Then again I have coaches who walk the walk and talk the talk. YES I AGREE SHE IS A FRAUD!!
Kate Middleton had a famously difficult pregnancy. She's naturally quite athletic but perhaps not in her princess life. Some women have very difficult pregnancy with nausea and morning sickness. With that said, the description of her situation sounds quite hyperbolic. It also sounds compulsive to exercise despite it wiping you out. Doesn't sound like she was able to apply herself properly to her job
Ya but at week “3” of pregnancy when the baby is literally a collection of cells? No way. Plus most women don’t even have enough hcg in their blood until right around week 4 to even confirm pregnancy
I trained thru my whole pregnancy (41 weeks) with CrossFit, lifting, and cardio. Even ran an 8 minute mile the day I went into labor. I was already very healthy and active before pregnancy and I think it allowed me to have any easy pregnancy.
Someone currently at our gym I am pretty sure was in the gym on her due date. Like I know that pregnancy is very painful but you see so many people pushing through. We have someone else that their only goal is to be at the gym up to a week before her due date. Just Do It.
Yes! I wish they had someone who was knowledgeable about pregnancy if they were going to call all of these things "excuses." Just like pull-ups, which can cause diastasis recti (which could be the "pulling" sensation she was describing). Maybe they are excuses for her, but these are real things that some pregnant women do deal with.
I was thinking the same thing; and cringing about a pregnant woman hanging from high up falling or jumping down from a pull up; I mean your body is not the same/ balance and centre of gravity, etc. I think it is best to follow your dr’s orders while working out during pregnancy-
My wife is in decent shape and was laid out with morning sickness. I think it depends on the woman. Happened for my wife 3 times over, sick for the whole pregnancy
First trimester is no joke lol. Low iron for me i think made it worse and only found that out second pregnancy third trimester with twins. Both rough. Needed medication. I think health plays a part for sure, somethings out of wack but it is quite hard. This video could have done with a medical expert on it also or birthfit :) ❤ would have been cool
Coming to leave my 2 cents- I 100% believe my home birth was successful because I continued crossfit my entire pregnancy. It was an 18 hour EMOM 😂 I did not stop jumping rope but at about 25 weeks I did start doing box step ups vs any box jumps. I’m not even an average crossfitter lol well below average in my opinion, but IT HELPED ME STAY FIT enough to give birth unmedicated, at home, and the recovery was literally hours vs days.
Beth is so attention seeking, her content is all about negativity and making herself a victim. Anyone can have a platform, doesnt mean they’re right. And she’s wrong about A LOT of the things she’s saying about pregnancy.
I would respect her if she filmed herself telling the truth about her struggles and was working to get better, instead of "Beth's unhealthy excuses channel" echo chamber she's trying to perpetuate. Nobody gets a pass on math. She will never be able to outwork that diet. The whole 'every body is different' thing is bullshit. Every body has some differences but we are generally pretty much the same. Same general nutritional requirements, same adaptations to stimulus. And I'm not sure anyone's mental health has been adversely affected by looking good, feeling healthy, and eating a nutritious diet.
Has it ever occurred to sporty Beth that if she prioritized eating healthy foods on top of the obsessive training, that she may feel slightly better during her pregnancy? I don’t consume her content so I don’t know if she even pays attention to what she eats or if that’s part of her triggering issue. You can’t out train a bad diet. Eat like shit = feel like shit. I know the pregnancy adds a new layer, but I just can’t comprehend her train of thought.
Athena at like minute 25. I wasn't completely sold on the arguments although I knew something was kinda fishy about sporty beth. Then Athena said what I think I wanted to hear as to why I felt like sporthy beth was a bit irksome.
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I have been watching your channel for a while. As a larger bodied (aka fat) person, I wasn't quite sure how to take your recent content. There is a snowballs chance in hell I would have the courage to step into a crossfit gym myself at this size.... I am absolutely fascinated by the sport/the games, which is how I ended up down this rabbit hole of following you. I have been surprised at actually enjoying and even being a bit inspired by the latest videos. While I will probably stay at the Y as I lose weight, this has really helped shift my mindset.
Screw that...If Crossfit makes you happy, get in the CF gym. Lifes too short to goto the Y.
Once again Hiller is doing more outreach for CF than CF HQ is!
As a fellow larger body, if you want to go to a CrossFit gym then go. I was supported and encouraged even when I was too weak to support myself during a lunge. Everything can be modified. Also I felt less judged there than when I went to the Y. 😂
Dude people like you are the coolest people in the crossfit gym. When you step foot in there, you are braver than all the jacked guys in there. They had nothing to overcome walking in the door. You however prove you're a brave man willing to accept a big challenge when you walk in. Good look dude!!!
Get to the CF box. You're going to find the most supportive community in the world. Hopefully, you'll also find a great coach that is going to help you accomplish so much more than you possibly could on your own at the Y. Worst case scenario, the Y will also be there... Just go!
This is the partnership we didn’t know we needed.
We need more Hiller vs Athena videos 👍🏻
Absolutely!
Sporty-Beth!..
The low tier Batman villain of the crossfit world!!!..
Throwing shade at all from up on high, riding ppl down atop her toxic high horse!!..
(She named her horse "Body Positivity")
😂😂😂
Hiller and Athena, two of the most genuine people in the CF space. "Don't learn backwards". I absolutely LOVE that.
I've lost 248 lbs. Best thing I've ever done for myself. I'm 205 lbs and have 30 to 40 lbs left. My mental health has improved along with my glucose, blood pressure and all other things!
that’s freaking awesome!! Congratulations & keep grinding to your goal 👍👍💪
Nice work legend!!
Well done! I’m sure a lot of ppl would be interested in & even pay for your wisdom
@facelessnameless I couldn't fathom charging anyone for sharing what worked for me. I want everyone to feel as good as me and enjoy a long healthy life.
I think we need a Hiller and Athena video at least once a month. This video had me 😂😂. Beth has proven about 1,000 times now how much she does not know. If she’s that “triggered” she needs to stay off the damn internet and most definitely not have a RUclips channel. Banning those that don’t have the same opinion as you is an echo chamber and you stay small minded. No growth, but maybe that is her intention?🧐 she is a train wreck and I’m not riding the crazy train. Wait until she has the baby and says “I cannot do this breastfeeding thing, it’s too HARD and I don’t have the mental space for it.” Quote me. She hasn’t scratch the surface of how hard it’s about to get with the sleep deprivation and what true exhaustion is. She has no idea, but she’s about to.
I know right. She is finding it "SO hard" at week three!!
I'm sorry but she needs to stop lying to herself and face reality. Her mind will create even more problems and issues for this pregnancy and that baby as she raises it.
@@Phili_Robbo I wish the best for her. She’s just gotta stop with the excuses and BS. Things aren’t hard right now. I think she craves the attention.
Athena’s push back was on point 👌🏼 the middle ground that hiller needs.
If you are asking the world to walk on eggshells because you will be "triggered" into a relapse, YOU have not done enough work on yourself to safely navigate that environment. So if you are on social media pushing for large bodies to get healthy as a brand but telling the world don't comment negatively because you will be triggered, you should get off social media for a while.
Nice video Hiller. :)
This is SO TRUE. I am an drug addict in recovery. If people would need to consider my feelings every single time I am near them they would murder me, lol. My addiction is MY problem, not other people's. People who expect other people to chance for them are dilusional.
@@123italiano321 agreed!
Well said
I worked 40 hours as a stylist on my feet all day still went to the gym everyday all the way up to my due date! Blah blah blah everyone is different but the healthier your body mass is the better your pregnancy is going to be.
💯💯🤙🏼
Love hiller. Love Athena. Love this video and this partnership.
Im pregnant with my 4th. I was competing in local crossfit competitions last year. I still train everyday tho not crossfit, the speed of the movements makes me super nauseous. Instead, I'm focussing on olympic lifting, swimming and running but I am still training 5- 6x a week. Mad respect to the elites who continue training throughout their pregnancy guess they're just built different.
I will say pregnancy is different for every female.
Disagree 100% that a healthy body guarantees healthy pregnancy. I did zero to cause my hemmorhaging. 120lb, 5'5, half marathoner and crossfitter. On bedrest from 16 weeks til i gave birth. 2nd pregnancy, worked out until the day i gave birth and was back at the gym 5 days post partum. I usually agree with most of what you say. But healthy body does NOT guarantee healthy pregnancy just like breastfeeding does not guarantee healthy kids. (Breastfed strictly both children and 2nd born has health challenges)
Agree, too strong of a blanket statement. A healthy body has a much higher chance of a healthy birth/pregnancy is more accurate.
Also a large assumption that these elitel level athletes are "healthy". No way to know that just from appearance / athletic performance.
But Hiller argues in another video that Tia is or has been on enhancement drugs. Sooooo....how likely is Tia to then feel the same, act the same as most women who don't use. And would Tia post a video of her NOT doing well as Hiller's other argument in that same video was that her willingness to express her weakness in the face of anything adversarial disappeared with the use of enhancement drugs. Hiller is not a doctor and is likely filtering what he hears, learns with the same filter of those that watch crime videos and think they can solve a crime.
The chemistry you guys have together is pretty electric. Kudos on this video!
At 11:25 Athena’s point “but is it totally up to you?” And her explanation for the question around shame and diet culture is 🙌 feel like it was a small part of this video and want to recognize it. So good, so true!
Not sure who the lady is that’s with you in the video but she’s awesome!
This is Athena! She and I are working together as she makes an attmept to be the first individual in CrossFit to loose over 300LBS. We have been doing a weekly podcast on Monday's discussing her progress. I should've noted all this in the video!
Follow her!! She’s great!!
@hillerfit my guy. Why is it that all your videos seem like they are rooted in negativity?
@@MG-rm4pzI mean do you even watch his videos? How about the entire series with Athena?
@@JustMove365Challenge I have watched the ones popping up on my feed. Steroid accusations. Talking about the downfall of crossfit athletes. Just not a very positive channel
This partnership is so amazing to watch! ❤
This is gold, can you guys keep collaborating on a regular basis?
BIGGEST TAKEAWAY, ppl pay Sporty Beth for programming hahahahaa. That’s wild.
Her biggest takeaway is every Friday night! 🍔🌭🍕🧁
That's what I was thinking too. WT actual F. Not just selling programming but coaching people.
I thought the same 😂
It’s baffling isn’t it 😮😮😮
Insane!!!! Haha 😂😂😂😂
Whenever SportyBeth says "body", I can only hear "bawdy". It really twists my brain.
Perhaps because you only have a face and hands
@@jakechapmancf I may have slightly snorted reading this
Athena & Andrew, A&A, the AA, the Double A-Team... IMHO, you should absolutely name this duo. It's a terrific (Or is it terrifit 😂?) one, like salt & pepper (Salthena & PeppHiller?!!). More! Please.
Damn this was great. Calling out excuse’y Beth and her excuses for every poor choice.
Oooh ok, I really don't like sporty Beth BUT extreme morning sickness isn't related to being overweight necessarily, I was in great shape before my pregnancy but the sickness absolutely floored me. That said she is such a whiner! And the point about filming herself throwing up in the toilet cracked me up! She's so weird
Thanks for the awesome vid Andrew. Athena, you are incredible and I am so excited to watch your journey. Thank you both for inputting your thoughts on this and keep posting !!
Litterally everyone that was "big", did crossfit (or any sport), put in the effort to control their food intake, knows what youre talking about.
Literally everyone. Me included.
Problem is, we are not her target audience/clientele.
She makes her money from the people that really need help but are afraid to face themselves and their own problems.
They dont watch you or your content.
Find a way to reach them.
Sporty Beth is 1,000% full of excuses.
That's her thing right? I've tried to watch a couple just so I wasn't being a "I don't like her, no I don't watch her videos" person. Like many of the "I don't like Hiller" people do. But.. I can't do it. She's toxic. Negative and just a downer. There's enough of that everywhere else, the eeyore personality doesn't belong in the crossfit space. Imo
Love that the floating DVD icon actually touched 2 corners. That thing used to float around my TV forever and not even touch one.
Athena is so damn awesome, glad yall made this. keep it up!
Love the two of you riffing together!
More of you two together please, the banter was perfection
25:53 you don’t learn backwards you learn forward… that’s the video right there ❤
I’m enjoying your collaboration and conversation. You’re both learning. I would love to have you bring in a perspective of someone who has gone through childbirth when not an elite athlete if you want to discuss pregnancy fitness with nuance - elite athlete moms are the exception rather than the rule. I went into second pregnancy at my healthiest ever and faced a lot of heath challenges that I don’t normally have (extremely low blood pressure, food aversions, ongoing nausea, severe sinus infections and more) that meant my normal routine was not possible. While there are issues with how Beth presents herself online and as a fitness influencer, I think it’s a challenge to discuss how pregnancy is impacting her without some additional perspective.
The devils in the detail… The DVD feature bouncing around the screen 👏🏼 A true masterpiece this one. Congrats guys 🦇
only halfway through so not sure if you make this point. I dont think a healthier body guarantees an easier pregnancy than someone else, BUT it does 100% guarantee an easier pregnancy than if that SAME body was less healthy… does that make sense?
in other words a healthier sportybeth will have an easier pregnancy than an unhealthy sportybeth 100% of the time, but a healthy sportybeth isnt guaranteed to have an easier pregnancy than her neighbor just bc they might have slightly worse health markers (but still probably)
Was going to say similar, also depends on definition of health. At one point Hiller mentioned they're "shredded" as if that's a health marker
Interesting to compare to people who may have taken PEDs too and where that skews the "health" scale
I like this girl!! She has personality, she seems genuine and just seems grounded! Awesome!
I real liked this Interview Version, want more of this kind👍
“I don’t believe in complacency” ❤❤
Think we shouldn't give Beth any more media space 😬
I know! She’s so full of crap.
I love this. I love the facts you’re spitting, I love the fact that BOTH of you are real and wanting to learn and stepping outside your comfort zones. I love that you are honest with yourselves and each other. It’s inspiring. Get out and do hard things. Be honest with yourself and do work. ❤
No man chooses evil because it is evil; he only mistakes it for happiness, the good he seeks.
-Mary Shelley
Opinion: Sporty Beth understands she’s chosen evil (bad habits and complaining of things only she can change). And is now condoning that evil instead of calling it evil and humbly making the change we all have to inevitably make to produce change.
I think she has created a narrative that she believed into existence and it’s fueled by excuses. Being pregnant is not special and women with complications in pregnancy is also not special. It’s how SB feels she needs to justify everything she does with an excuse that “is out of her control” that’s so toxic. Like no one gives a damn about what you’re doing, just quit with the victim mindset, blaming others, and constant excuses.
This was amazing. Really enjoyed the collab
'Selling it backwards "
Athena, you are so cool, beautiful, smart, and courageous. Love everything about you. Putting all this "out there " takes balls but working hard constantly makes you a superstar. So proud of you❤ I hope you had a good time with Andrew. You're a blessed and lucky girl. Keep doing what you're doing. This is the way to permanently lose weight and gain 100 times more of so many things. Keep Hiller on his toes, lol. You got this for sure. Just remember to be patient when things get tough. If I can do it, I know you can! Much love and admiration.❤
That abdominal separations are also common on weightlifters. I've had it, didn't made me miss a day in the gym.
This is GOLD 🎉
Got any good resources you can point me to for improving toes to bar. I started trying them in August and I can only do singles. The max I’ve done in a row is 5 but they’re strict. When I try to add the kip it all falls apart.
At 26:49 I have been thinking the same thing. I would like to see how she does during a workout, not just a clip of a movement for one rep or two.
That might be her workout lol
The “you don’t learn backwards you learn forwards” is fantastic….She is now learning what her larger body can do and that’s why she is removing movements from her exercise.
Do we know where and when the seminar will be in the UK?
Lots of interesting points in the video. Watched it with my wife who has been pregnant twice. She had thoughts.
Leeds at Form. We’ve messaged CrossFitUk with materials to post. Fingers crossed. It’s 5th May
Jason we’ve been sharing it. 5th May CrossFit Form. Il drop you a message we’ve been helping Athena with the set up
As someone who is not knowledgeable with either parties - Beth's or Andrew's channel - I dont feel like fraud is the right word. Clearly she has some anxieties due to the pregnancy that may have led to some misguided changes to her routine.
I do strongly agree with what Athena said on complacency. But most comments on Beths channel are more to do with her size then her actual fitness. And if we're talking about weight loss, the diet should take front and centre. Her channel isn't really about food & diet. Perhaps its too triggering for her. There was a time I could not hear about calories or macros. It would send me into a restrict and binge cycle - where I'd ultimately be fatter by the end of.
If you dont have a complicated relationship with food, you simply cant relate and thats fine. But I'd recon Beth's issue with dieting and restricting is similar to what I had. It can be overcome, but its a long road that requires much emotional work.
RE: Diastasis recti...I believe that Annie Thorisdottir has spoken about this and how it affected her both before and after her first pregnancy...
Flat out crying about it is more like it. People were constantly pointing it out and not focusing on her fitness or performance and she was so self conscious about it. It was really heartbreaking.
I loved this video, one of my favourites. Thank you guys!
New videos of these two make my day.
Two good friends bantering! ❤
I will be so glad when we are past this over exaggerating dramatic language that’s common. “It was literally wreaking absolute havoc” “it was the worst thing EVER!” “I was dying” “I was catatonic” “my elbows were going to rip off the bone” “my organs were poking out between my abs” I’m picking on her here but it’s so common. 😵💫
I think Camille Bazinet had a rough pregnancy. I used to follow sporty Beth but stopped because I didn’t agree with most of the messages she sends out. With pregnancy everyone is different so I get why she’s training how she is. 2 pregnancies, worked out during both until the day before giving birth. I also PR’d in a couple of lifts during both pregnancies 🤪 with all that being said, she is not the best example for larger body athletes. I’m 5’7 and weigh 198lbs and I don’t agree with most of what she posts. It would make sense if she would eat clean 85% of the time and exercise as much as the says she is but stays the same weight instead of feeling like you see she has gained weight since her last video. She’s only sharing what makes her look like she believes in the message she’s sending out and probably not what proves that she’s really not.
Great guest Hiller
More of these please 🙏🏻
ATHENA I LOVE YOUR LAUGH SO MUCH! It’s so infectious. Please keep laughing more ❤❤
Tbh a girl used to train with us nice girl but every workout she had something wrong with her tbh just reminded me of the army where you always had the sick notes that had excuses not to do PT
Well-done Andrew and Athena @Fon Daul approved!
Athena feels as real as they come, someone I would love to grab a coffee with and hear their life story.
We need more of like Andrew and Athena doing such videos. i feel Andrew's video can be a bit too much anger sometimes but Athena's reaction/response sort of neutralize or makes what Andrew spew out becomes more chewable lol. But overall good content.
Athena is 10/10. come on Andrew HAHAHA ....
And you can’t be pregnant in “week3”.
She’s totally not on her stories trying to act like she doesn’t care about her “trolls” when clearly she does. I do hope she gets the help she needs, both mentally and physically.
Mate! What an exceptional video!!!!
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1: I was waiting for this.
2: I AM NOT AN OB, but I have carried and birthed 4 humans. The Pulling feeling in the abdomen is something we're warned about usually into the 3rd trimester. Early warning signs of diastasis recti. If she already had it, best to be careful there but it is "generally" in relation to kipping motions. Not strict.
3: @athenaperez you are just a cool human. Your skin is glowing and the "diet" is showing its benefits!
Yo! So great to see you two together
I am LOVING this.
I just can’t believe someone got her pregnant
That was my first thought. 😂😂😂😂
Mine too and I can’t even get a text back
The fact you brought up Nicocado is AMAZING to me.
From what I have seen in her clips on her channel there is no way I would follow her lead on any level of fitness or nutrition. I feel sorry for the individuals who have wasted their time and money having her as a coach. Then again I have coaches who walk the walk and talk the talk. YES I AGREE SHE IS A FRAUD!!
Big time Hiller fan, and this was the best video ever in my opinion. More collabs! 💙
Appreciate the shout out dude 😊
2million views = $8,000 ; your soul for $8k and 10 packs of ramen and takis 🤔
Here for the Stargate easter egg!
Kate Middleton had a famously difficult pregnancy. She's naturally quite athletic but perhaps not in her princess life. Some women have very difficult pregnancy with nausea and morning sickness.
With that said, the description of her situation sounds quite hyperbolic. It also sounds compulsive to exercise despite it wiping you out. Doesn't sound like she was able to apply herself properly to her job
Athena is such a nice person. Good video Hiller.
Kara Sanders had to stop exercising first trimester I think.
She slowed down, but she still exercised right the way through, with both bubs.
*Saunders
Maybe not exercising to her usual level, but I’m pretty sure she did not lie on the couch
@@djsusiequ2422 she could just walk. Nothing else.
@@renatanovotna1513 exactly - but her mental health, like prevents her from
Great video! 🦇
A healthy body absolutely does NOT guarantee a healthy pregnancy. That is absurd.
on a side note prego women produce relaxin so relaxed ligaments
Ya but at week “3” of pregnancy when the baby is literally a collection of cells? No way. Plus most women don’t even have enough hcg in their blood until right around week 4 to even confirm pregnancy
I trained thru my whole pregnancy (41 weeks) with CrossFit, lifting, and cardio. Even ran an 8 minute mile the day I went into labor. I was already very healthy and active before pregnancy and I think it allowed me to have any easy pregnancy.
The organs between the abs is actually true for some women. SportyBeth might be exaggerating but it's definitely true for bad cases
Someone currently at our gym I am pretty sure was in the gym on her due date. Like I know that pregnancy is very painful but you see so many people pushing through. We have someone else that their only goal is to be at the gym up to a week before her due date. Just Do It.
pregnancy can cause joint laxity, affecting her elbow in the snatch
Yes! I wish they had someone who was knowledgeable about pregnancy if they were going to call all of these things "excuses." Just like pull-ups, which can cause diastasis recti (which could be the "pulling" sensation she was describing). Maybe they are excuses for her, but these are real things that some pregnant women do deal with.
I was thinking the same thing; and cringing about a pregnant woman hanging from high up falling or jumping down from a pull up; I mean your body is not the same/ balance and centre of gravity, etc. I think it is best to follow your dr’s orders while working out during pregnancy-
If I remember correctly she was referencing “week 3” when her elbows were “ripping off the bone.” What are relaxin levels at week 3? 🤔
Not enough to cause those feelings lol
This Athena Perez lady is so genuine. I very much like her.
My wife is in decent shape and was laid out with morning sickness. I think it depends on the woman. Happened for my wife 3 times over, sick for the whole pregnancy
Me too.🤢🤮😨 I don't follow SB, but she should listen to her body and put her pregnancy first.
This was a great video. Also a big fan of Athena
I got 2 kids thats why I workout at 5:30am before they're up. Where there is a will, there is a way. For everything.
Damn right up at 0430 here 😮
First trimester is no joke lol. Low iron for me i think made it worse and only found that out second pregnancy third trimester with twins. Both rough. Needed medication. I think health plays a part for sure, somethings out of wack but it is quite hard. This video could have done with a medical expert on it also or birthfit :) ❤ would have been cool
“Big girls can run”. I challenged her to post an entire recording of her doing a 10km run. Not her spliced up 4 second clips. She blocked me
Coming to leave my 2 cents- I 100% believe my home birth was successful because I continued crossfit my entire pregnancy.
It was an 18 hour EMOM 😂
I did not stop jumping rope but at about 25 weeks I did start doing box step ups vs any box jumps.
I’m not even an average crossfitter lol well below average in my opinion, but IT HELPED ME STAY FIT enough to give birth unmedicated, at home, and the recovery was literally hours vs days.
Beth is so attention seeking, her content is all about negativity and making herself a victim. Anyone can have a platform, doesnt mean they’re right. And she’s wrong about A LOT of the things she’s saying about pregnancy.
I would respect her if she filmed herself telling the truth about her struggles and was working to get better, instead of "Beth's unhealthy excuses channel" echo chamber she's trying to perpetuate. Nobody gets a pass on math. She will never be able to outwork that diet. The whole 'every body is different' thing is bullshit. Every body has some differences but we are generally pretty much the same. Same general nutritional requirements, same adaptations to stimulus. And I'm not sure anyone's mental health has been adversely affected by looking good, feeling healthy, and eating a nutritious diet.
Bring on the Athena content! ❤
Has it ever occurred to sporty Beth that if she prioritized eating healthy foods on top of the obsessive training, that she may feel slightly better during her pregnancy? I don’t consume her content so I don’t know if she even pays attention to what she eats or if that’s part of her triggering issue. You can’t out train a bad diet. Eat like shit = feel like shit. I know the pregnancy adds a new layer, but I just can’t comprehend her train of thought.
Athena did great. Loving this series.
Best video to date!
Athena at like minute 25. I wasn't completely sold on the arguments although I knew something was kinda fishy about sporty beth. Then Athena said what I think I wanted to hear as to why I felt like sporthy beth was a bit irksome.
All the women from my gym were right back at it weeks after birth. None were fat. Many having multiple children.
I’d go to the medium man seminar
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God I just love Athena ❤️
I can’t handle her olympic lifts. If my friend was pregnant and did that I would not look