I swear I just can’t with this person…. As a coach and older, adaptive athlete I have never experienced anyone in any gym laugh or say horrible things behind someone’s back or to their face about their build, body type or ability.
My CrossFit community has never been anything but supportive. I've been there for 6 years, and it was the community that gave me the CONFIDENCE to keep going. I'm 103 lbs. lighter because of them.
I watch Beth's videos and have come to accept that her whole world is veiwed through the lens of somebody who is wading though the mire of an ongoing mental illness. Listening between the lines,she is shaping her narrative to uplift herself (which is fine) regardless of how often she misses the mark and actually puts others down ( specifically talking about real fitness while suggesting fitness is not "a look" and in doing so,shaming skinny/lean athletes) As for there being no positive media,I have two words " Buttery Bros" Cheers
I’d add, Represent 247, hillerfit, Fergus Crawley, Sevan, hunter Mac, all positive content all the time, those are just the ones that come to mind right away.
I used to watch her. Completely stopped a while ago for reasons a lot of people commented about : 1. She had some setbacks, and instead of embracing it, she's been finding excuses 2. She's trying to rationalize everything through the prism "If I am not on the top, it means something or someone is conspiring against me" and not "I should do better" 3. Crossfit isn't responsible for the behaviour of individual practitioners of the sport, and overall the sponsorships, cash-prizes and coverage are equal between men and women if not better for women athletes (mostly due to brands marketing) 4. Hiller's Armchair is the Scroll of Truth most people don't wanna hear.
@@hillerfit oh yes dude.... Oh yes... 😂 Probably us she is calling out... without calling out... as is her way.. Mention something.. Without mentioning ANYTHING... Luckily it's a few years since her last appearance and mass of tears and well frankly... NEGATIVITY IS BANNED from our wonderful funny happy inclusive but RESULTS driven CrossFit gym 💪 😉 Keep up the good work Andrew... Oh... And Sevan too...
So when I walked into an affiliate, I was morbidly obese and struggled to get up off the floor. I was self conscious and anxious but not even once I had derogatory comments or judgement from anyone. In fact, the members celebrated with me for every win, first burpee, first box jump, left PRs even when everything was slow, light and way beyond scaled. I am fed up of the negativity and bitterness of Beth, she is clearly far from healed. I used to be triggered by a million things and get upset all the time by various people and to me that was just a sign of remaining wounded and mentally unwell. I don't agree with many things and am happy to debate however I don't get triggered anymore. As human beings we are supposedly entitled to freedom of speech and certainly to our own opinions, it is incredible that anyone expects to live life without encountering things to disagree with.
No one in CF is negative towards people trying to better themselves. There are multiple obese people at my gym and everyone cheers them on and are stoked for their health/fitness journeys. We just won’t accept bs “body positivity” that almost encourages people to be unhealthy.
The CrossFit community changed my life. It made me a better person, fitter, healthier. I met all my best friends through the community and I recommend it to anybody that wants to find an awesome group of people that will push you to become better every day.
She is the epitome of "I dont want to work hard enough to get to your level, so I'll try drag everyone down to mine" She needs to be ex communicated from the community she hates so much.
Best use of that quote (she doesnt even go here)!!! Being competitive teaches so many lessons. No need to view competition as negative. I am the person I am today because of the competitive soccer I played. Respect, professionalism, how to manage you ego when you win and lose. Some peoples kids
I am an affiliate owner. I get told all the time how positive and welcoming everyone is in CrossFit. Also, men and women treat each other differently. Men are way more blunt and women build each other up with positivity no matter what. Not saying either is better or worse. When those get mixed, especially men to women, it’s seen as toxic or negative when that’s just how men talk to each other. Also the “everyone gets a trophy” aged people get super but hurt when they can’t do something others are doing or have worked to get. Life’s hard and it’s not made easy for everyone. Some have to work extra hard at certain things while others don’t.
It’s way better than it was in 2012 when I started. It was so annoying the “I’m going to the games” from every mom and random Joe. It’s good that the pros have gone so far ahead of the average athlete It’s a lot more chill in every box
Beth embodies negativity. The way she tries to spin her constant negativity as a presentation/lecture from her position of moral, emotional, and mental superiority is truly toxic.
The community is one of the main reasons I fell in love with CrossFit!! I’m morbidly obese and never heard anything negative only positivity from the people at my box
For someone who says she "can't be bothered' to read her comments she sure does read a lot of them. And she loves it. She loves the negative engagement. I think she searches it out to make content because as she said "Negativity drives engagement".
Countless boxes visited and years of CrossFit. I'd say it's the total opposite. If someone was to be mean or mock someone in a CrossFit session I'd imagine the rest of the members would lynch them. By far the most supportive sport and community I've encountered. Hate that she's posting content that will put newbies off from joining.
She has a lot of issues and she's in denial about everything. It's wild that she is coaching or training anybody. Only the strong can help the weak. If you are at the bottom of the leaderboard work hard, learn, and let everyone help you improve. When you are in the middle help the people struggling at the bottom to keep progressing and grind. When you are sitting at the top you have a responsibility to be a leader, an example, and help as many as you can. It's not divisive, it's proof we are all helping each other strive towards a common goal and a way to celebrate success and have accountability. Negativity sucks and it never helped anybody.
Something that you hit the nail on the head is the "laughing". I've been to multiple affiliate gyms including ones that are highly redeemed in the CrossFit Community for being "elite" and I'm as far from elite as it gets and never once has any athlete, owner, member ever said anything but positivity. We get in our own heads about our abilities and believe that if WE think it, others must as well, as I've gotten older I've realized this is absolute bullshit.
To be fair, the community did change back in 2020 when the loud voices wanted Glassman out. We found out that we weren't all alike and weren't all striving towards the same goal. So she is right, just for the wrong reasons.
I feel like she is that kind of girl who has always been chunky and then got skinny for once in her lifetime… then bragged about it how skinny she was, all the time ..
I smell a NoOpen workout at 15:10 👀 Over all though, great take. In my experience visiting boxes in Canada, Switzerland, and France, I have nothing but good stuff to say "community" wise and old school CrossFit wise. Each box has its own thing going on, its like going to a new school when your a kid, it sucks, have no friends, you'll point out the lameness of the new school, but all it takes is that one good friend or teacher (coach) that makes it a good experience.
@18:41 When Alexis discovers her broken stick, will Andrew "stand up" or throw Leo under the bus? This is a classic Man's Best Friend test. Who will be sleeping in the dog house tonight?
Everything is about her and how things affect her. She can’t see past herself at all. I commented on one post one time- it was a “light hearted” video of her rolling on the floor with the caption “if you’re not lying on the floor after a WOD were you even trying? “. I get it, been there. My comment was that I used to do it, but had had the opportunity of an online coaching session with the absolute legend and multi Olympian Eric Murray. He said only lie on the floor if you’re waiting on an ambulance (and gave reasons). The comment was about my coaching session with an absolute expert and she shot back with “ how dare he make comments about me and judge me he doesnt know me or appreciate how my anxiety affects me etc”. I replied that he probably had zero idea that she existed and that I was simply sharing a different perspective from an Olympian. To which she made some kind of elitist comment and again said that she had to lie down for her anxiety. No one was judging, I was simply sharing what was a light bulb moment for me. The knee jerk reaction groan her is very telling
Hey Drew, I started doing CrossFit in 2006. I served in TF-16 in Ramadi, Iraq. Initially, our HQ element was from Naval Special Warfare and ALL the SEALs were doing the "Main Site Workouts" on the old CF yellow main site. I got my Level 1 in 2013, so I have truly seen the rise and fall of CF. In my humble opinion, CrossFit's "PED-free" stance was bound to fail because it was a Lie; since PED's were in the community from the very beginning! Regardless of testing, many CF Athletes were cycling on and off throughout their year long training schedules, and consistently passing drug tests. As expected, the façade finally fell and the only people who truly suffered were the people being charged $210/month to send other people to the CF Games. We as a community should have been 100% honest; good, bad, or indifferent. Around the same time, the body building community was being VERY opened about PED use. Their athletes were told up front "this is the price of admission" take it or leave it. While CrossFit Athletes were setup to ultimately chase a "Fitness Unicorn" indefinitely.
I think Sporty Beth and people in general need to: 1. Get offline and go to an affiliate (PS if you are a garage gym enthusiast I would strongly suggest a virtual community that is affiliated - CrossFit Linchpin is one example I can personally recommend) 2. Appreciate the difference between the CrossFit Games (a competitive sport) and the CrossFit methodology 3. Understand that the majority of comments online are not made by people with first-hand knowledge of the CrossFit methodology and that the fan base of the CrossFit games is not “the CrossFit community”
The funny thing is I don't follow her, so I hadn't seen her poll when I voted on yours. I chose the middle ground because my first thought was "positive" when I think about my local community. Then I thought about the online community and Sporty Beth came to mind. It made me waver and settle on something in the middle.
I laughed way too hard at the bit about Alexis knocking you out. Then I felt a little bad about how hard I laughed. The imagery was just so funny in my mind.
I truly hope Beth hears herself in a more truer sense sometime in her life. Putting others down or shaping the narrative to fit (justify) their own inner thoughts does nothing for anyone. Its like shouting into the void and expecting the void to say "Yes i get it". The void doesnt care. Also, neck punch by Alexis made my day. I also no longer try to jump scare my wife after the slap heard around the world last time i tried it 😂
I was shouting at the TV in disbelief every time Beth spoke, and then Hiller said exactly what I’m sure everyone else was saying/thinking too. Why Beth, why?! Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.
TBH I have a lot of sympathy for Sporty Beth as a person as she is clearly not in a great place mentally. I think she really deep down hates herself. Those sorts of people really do need help even though its infuriating trying to help them. I don't have much beef with Hillers take but I do wonder if doing a communal dog pile on her is healthy for her or us? I know she's the one putting herself out there but I wonder if we would be doing her a massive favour, both mentally and physically, by just ignoring her? Especially if she is soon going to be dealing with and raising a new-born in a few months. We almost a duty of care to ignore her as odd as that may sound. IDK.
You can’t help anyone who doesn’t want help. Sympathy is empowering, empathy is understanding and recognizing you are powerless it’s all up to the individual to want help.
Beth starting to have a proper Bo Selecta face. Just go away love, you’re not happy, you’ll never be happy and you’re not helping anyone else be happy.
I think that Hiller was really on to something when he was talking about the source of the community in CrossFit. The community was so strong initially because everyone was so invested in the same goal of getting fitter, fitter than average, in short, better. Then the plot was lost and instead of saying this community is so strong because they all like to push the physical limits - it became this community is so strong and they don't care if you want to test your limits and get better. Am I saying everyone in the gym needs to be pounding pre-workout and doing 4 40 min AMRAPs per day? No, not at all but everyone needs to be wanting to get better. A lot of times the message of inclusiveness (which I completely believe in) gets confused with the idea that we need to accept every limitation - self-imposed or otherwise - that everyone puts on themselves. The whole goal of CrossFit was to push the limits of our capability - Oh you're good at gymnastics? How's your running? Got a huge bench? How fast can you climb this rope? Oh you can run 5 miles? How fast can you get 30 cal's on the echo bike? I just feel like the type of people that gravitate towards crossfit generally are going to clash with people that want to just accept things as they are - which is the predominant message that is getting pushed by the Sporty Beth's of the world.
Yea, I'm loving Alexis for sure. I'm pretty much the same. ("Don't sneak up behind me")😅 Great job. Another drop the mic video. Btw, nice vascularity. 💪
The affiliate I was going to before the 'vid had stopped tracking scores, for who knows what reason. They also didn't like programming higher skill movements which they felt would "scare away" more people than it would attract. It was about that time I just started doing my own programming.
I supposed Sevan getting her a media pass at last year's Games was indicative of transphobia, cliques, misogyny . . . . confrontation . . . exclusive . . .
This is exactly the issue. Her video is the epitome of the issue and her own poll proves her argument is wrong. No place is perfect. You can’t confuse CrossFit sport and everyday CrossFit. They’re two different things. RX is NOT supposed to be inclusive. Sport at the highest level is not inclusive. Yes CrossFit has their issues no one is arguing that but this video just shows that people would rather support their agenda instead of address the problem
I agreed with you until the last 1:00. One thing I think you missed though, is what I realized I can’t stand about her Instagram. EVERY reel she posts is negative. It’s always for clicks and trying to get engagement about “haters”. I stopped feeling so guilty after I realized that. She doesn’t be her own cheerleader- she just keep being a person who’s like YOU HATE ME! Read how people hate me!! It’s just weird when you’re pregnant and should be super happy or at least invested in your own stuff. Idk
Unlike Beth I’ve been CONSISTENTLY doing CrossFit for over 7 years and consume CrossFit content from as many people I can. Everything she has to say is so off-base and so victim mentality driven. If anyone’s bad for CrossFit , it’s image and it’s message and how effective it can be for a healthy lifestyle. It is “sporty” Beth She is absolutely the most toxic representation of how amazing this methodology can be for anyone.
How do you apply the science to find out how you are improving or if the programming is effective if you don't use a leaderboard or record data? 🤔 p values even need data.
I don't watch Beth's stuff... But ever time I hear her speak.. you can tell she's never played in sports or anything as a kid or been a part of a group that's sports related... Like I support a soccer team and our rivals hate us and they talk so much crap to us regardless about how the games against them go.. There is nothing wrong with a bit of rivalry and back and forth.. it's good to be competitive a little bit.. Also, doesn't accountability also mean if you have a different opinion from someone that you can back up your words and no go back on them? So, yeah some people don't agree with you? who cares... that one person's opinion should affect your life or what you want to do? I think she needs to take a break from the internet or look at herself in the mirror. If you can't held a compettive sport and the positive and negative aspects of that than just do it for fun and don't give a crap..
I'm from the UK, I watch ALL your videos but, but...when "she" comes on, I cringe and can't watch it anymore! She nailed the awkwardness with "back in my day"! I'll come back when she's gone....until next time.
Love how she has this issue with community, but she doesn’t track her results or even aspire to be better at sport. She likes to show that she can deadlift more than the other women and receive praise for it. However, when there’s a negative reaction, the CrossFit community is bad. She’s such a bad look for the community. Like is she even doing CrossFit anymore, I really feel like she goes to a gym, with sparse clothing, hits a DL and makes a video about something irrelevant. Rant Over. Despite disliking over 15 of her videos the YT algorithm thinks I love her.
My God she's so delusional! I've been a part of 4 totally different CF boxes, and every one of them had a terrific community. ALL of my close friendships have been formed from the gym. I'd say her opinions come from her own insecurities.
CF affiliates/community not being friendly and inclusive ? 😂 I mean this is as friendly and inclusive as it gets. Go to a random gym and see who is friendly and communicative there 🤪
Nothing but positive. I don't think in my almost 10 years have I had a bad crossfit experience. Might be some things that have happened tbat I didn't leave from or maybe disagreed with bit the community is amazing. I feel bad for this Beth although she made a good point about the open. You guys should collaborate 😅 soon.
Is it easy for internet warriors to type what they want to type. I'd be willing to bet the most of these negative comments come from someone who has never been in a crossfit gym for more than a month.
Everything that rolls out her mouth is pure hypocrisy. People dont understand that you actually go easy on her all things considered. She's one of the participation award peeps. And she talks with this sense of entitlement that everyone needs to act in a way to please her. The next generation is going to be even worse
@hillerfit when are you coming to CrossFit Wanderlust Bali? Over 100 people today in one 9am class. From first timers to elite athletes. None of this EVER happens here.
I heard a story about a soccer fan that made a fake dating profile, catfished a rival clubs fan, had him fly all the way out to this other clubs area just to tell him he got catfished. Other sports are worse
I have watched her for some time - she is clearly struggling mentally. What I am most concerned about is she is about to become a mother and she has admitted repeatedly that she is not in a good headspace. Not good when you are about to become a parent.
I’m not sure these comments she shares are even real. Unless she’s deleting them immediately I’ve not seen any of the comments she shares, or even similar ones.
The problem is her "CrossFit Community" are only online commenters... My take is she has assumed that all these "trolls" are apart of the CrossFit Community because they watch her videos. I don't see her actually posting comments or videos from people at actual boxes. Just the comments she gets on her posts. Prove to me these people are actually apart of the CrossFit community. And you attract what you put out into the world. If you want to constantly focus on the bad in the world, that's all you are going to see. Change your perspective and focus on the good and you will far less of the negative.
I don't understand how women will call Men misogynistic in the same breath saying how much they hate men and think men sucks the double standards is crazy
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"Negativity drives engagement" says the content creator in a video titled "The Crossfit Community Sucks"
HAHAHAAHAHAAHAH THE PERFECT COMMENT EXISTS!!!
This was EXACTLY what I was coming to the comments to say. And the saddest part is, I think she genuinely doesn’t see the hypocrisy in that.
Never thought we'd live in a time when bragging about over eating and being overweight makes you cash.
She's a professional victim.
“Sporty” doesn’t hold herself accountable…and is employing the “poor me” grift.
Like most victim mentality people. Can’t stand them.
I swear I just can’t with this person…. As a coach and older, adaptive athlete I have never experienced anyone in any gym laugh or say horrible things behind someone’s back or to their face about their build, body type or ability.
Oh Well ... best part of this was the Alexis haymaker story.
I can't wait for her to watch it lol
‘oh well…’ [RoboJaydeCoons]
My CrossFit community has never been anything but supportive. I've been there for 6 years, and it was the community that gave me the CONFIDENCE to keep going. I'm 103 lbs. lighter because of them.
You go girl. Good on you
@@patricklang7162 thank you!
I watch Beth's videos and have come to accept that her whole world is veiwed through the lens of somebody who is wading though the mire of an ongoing mental illness. Listening between the lines,she is shaping her narrative to uplift herself (which is fine) regardless of how often she misses the mark and actually puts others down ( specifically talking about real fitness while suggesting fitness is not "a look" and in doing so,shaming skinny/lean athletes)
As for there being no positive media,I have two words " Buttery Bros"
Cheers
Not mental illness, it’s attention seeking.
“Cheers” 😂 - nice one guvner.
I’d add, Represent 247, hillerfit, Fergus Crawley, Sevan, hunter Mac, all positive content all the time, those are just the ones that come to mind right away.
I used to watch her. Completely stopped a while ago for reasons a lot of people commented about :
1. She had some setbacks, and instead of embracing it, she's been finding excuses
2. She's trying to rationalize everything through the prism "If I am not on the top, it means something or someone is conspiring against me" and not "I should do better"
3. Crossfit isn't responsible for the behaviour of individual practitioners of the sport, and overall the sponsorships, cash-prizes and coverage are equal between men and women if not better for women athletes (mostly due to brands marketing)
4. Hiller's Armchair is the Scroll of Truth most people don't wanna hear.
She says nothing original, her words are ALL what she’s hearing everywhere else, she’s nauseating🤢
The atmosphere at my gym strangely improved when she stopped coming to it with all her NEGATIVITY... 🤔 Funny that.... 🤡
WAIT!!! SHE CAME TO YOUR GYM?!?!
@@hillerfit oh yes dude.... Oh yes... 😂 Probably us she is calling out... without calling out... as is her way.. Mention something.. Without mentioning ANYTHING... Luckily it's a few years since her last appearance and mass of tears and well frankly... NEGATIVITY IS BANNED from our wonderful funny happy inclusive but RESULTS driven CrossFit gym 💪 😉 Keep up the good work Andrew... Oh... And Sevan too...
So when I walked into an affiliate, I was morbidly obese and struggled to get up off the floor. I was self conscious and anxious but not even once I had derogatory comments or judgement from anyone. In fact, the members celebrated with me for every win, first burpee, first box jump, left PRs even when everything was slow, light and way beyond scaled. I am fed up of the negativity and bitterness of Beth, she is clearly far from healed. I used to be triggered by a million things and get upset all the time by various people and to me that was just a sign of remaining wounded and mentally unwell. I don't agree with many things and am happy to debate however I don't get triggered anymore. As human beings we are supposedly entitled to freedom of speech and certainly to our own opinions, it is incredible that anyone expects to live life without encountering things to disagree with.
No one in CF is negative towards people trying to better themselves. There are multiple obese people at my gym and everyone cheers them on and are stoked for their health/fitness journeys.
We just won’t accept bs “body positivity” that almost encourages people to be unhealthy.
Unless that person is cheating on their spouse or trying to take your significant other 😂
The CrossFit community changed my life. It made me a better person, fitter, healthier. I met all my best friends through the community and I recommend it to anybody that wants to find an awesome group of people that will push you to become better every day.
She is the epitome of "I dont want to work hard enough to get to your level, so I'll try drag everyone down to mine" She needs to be ex communicated from the community she hates so much.
Best use of that quote (she doesnt even go here)!!! Being competitive teaches so many lessons. No need to view competition as negative. I am the person I am today because of the competitive soccer I played. Respect, professionalism, how to manage you ego when you win and lose. Some peoples kids
I am an affiliate owner. I get told all the time how positive and welcoming everyone is in CrossFit. Also, men and women treat each other differently. Men are way more blunt and women build each other up with positivity no matter what. Not saying either is better or worse. When those get mixed, especially men to women, it’s seen as toxic or negative when that’s just how men talk to each other. Also the “everyone gets a trophy” aged people get super but hurt when they can’t do something others are doing or have worked to get. Life’s hard and it’s not made easy for everyone. Some have to work extra hard at certain things while others don’t.
Pressure to be a hyper masculine?? These days there are pressures to not be a straight man. I wish there was pressure to be hyper masculine man
Hyper masculine is now “toxic” masculinity
Does not even need to be "hyper-" to be called "toxic" anymore. .. Unfortunately.
It’s way better than it was in 2012 when I started. It was so annoying the “I’m going to the games” from every mom and random Joe. It’s good that the pros have gone so far ahead of the average athlete It’s a lot more chill in every box
That was the worst. Those people ruined the atmosphere at gyms.
Beth embodies negativity. The way she tries to spin her constant negativity as a presentation/lecture from her position of moral, emotional, and mental superiority is truly toxic.
Right!
If it wasn’t for Hiller, I would never knew this lady existed. Maybe I am glad I don’t use internet that much 😅
The community is one of the main reasons I fell in love with CrossFit!! I’m morbidly obese and never heard anything negative only positivity from the people at my box
She just sounds like she doesnt like crossfit.
No. She doesn’t like herself.
She doesn't. That is the crazy part
@hillerfit RIGHT! Maybe she should go to a normal gym. I don't get her content, she clearly hates everything that makes crossfit, crossfit.
For someone who says she "can't be bothered' to read her comments she sure does read a lot of them. And she loves it. She loves the negative engagement. I think she searches it out to make content because as she said "Negativity drives engagement".
Maybe she should get off the internet comment section and worry about herself. But that wouldn’t help with her victim mentality that is driving her.
She is a classic social media baby. "how I feel" "the community feels". and my all time favorite "I feel like..."
Countless boxes visited and years of CrossFit. I'd say it's the total opposite. If someone was to be mean or mock someone in a CrossFit session I'd imagine the rest of the members would lynch them. By far the most supportive sport and community I've encountered. Hate that she's posting content that will put newbies off from joining.
At what point is she no longer “sporty”?
The piece you did with Haley Adams... are you doing more of those?
Yes I have a few in the works!
People playing the victim card to cover up for their own failures...
SportyBeth is a gift that keeps on giving. I grow more and more fond of her with every absurd and bizarre attack on CF.
I agree!
She has a lot of issues and she's in denial about everything. It's wild that she is coaching or training anybody. Only the strong can help the weak. If you are at the bottom of the leaderboard work hard, learn, and let everyone help you improve. When you are in the middle help the people struggling at the bottom to keep progressing and grind. When you are sitting at the top you have a responsibility to be a leader, an example, and help as many as you can. It's not divisive, it's proof we are all helping each other strive towards a common goal and a way to celebrate success and have accountability. Negativity sucks and it never helped anybody.
I can’t imagine why anyone would hire her to coach them.
Something that you hit the nail on the head is the "laughing". I've been to multiple affiliate gyms including ones that are highly redeemed in the CrossFit Community for being "elite" and I'm as far from elite as it gets and never once has any athlete, owner, member ever said anything but positivity. We get in our own heads about our abilities and believe that if WE think it, others must as well, as I've gotten older I've realized this is absolute bullshit.
To be fair, the community did change back in 2020 when the loud voices wanted Glassman out. We found out that we weren't all alike and weren't all striving towards the same goal. So she is right, just for the wrong reasons.
GREAT comment
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I feel like she is that kind of girl who has always been chunky and then got skinny for once in her lifetime… then bragged about it how skinny she was, all the time ..
I smell a NoOpen workout at 15:10 👀
Over all though, great take. In my experience visiting boxes in Canada, Switzerland, and France, I have nothing but good stuff to say "community" wise and old school CrossFit wise. Each box has its own thing going on, its like going to a new school when your a kid, it sucks, have no friends, you'll point out the lameness of the new school, but all it takes is that one good friend or teacher (coach) that makes it a good experience.
@18:41 When Alexis discovers her broken stick, will Andrew "stand up" or throw Leo under the bus? This is a classic Man's Best Friend test. Who will be sleeping in the dog house tonight?
Everything is about her and how things affect her. She can’t see past herself at all. I commented on one post one time- it was a “light hearted” video of her rolling on the floor with the caption “if you’re not lying on the floor after a WOD were you even trying? “. I get it, been there. My comment was that I used to do it, but had had the opportunity of an online coaching session with the absolute legend and multi Olympian Eric Murray. He said only lie on the floor if you’re waiting on an ambulance (and gave reasons). The comment was about my coaching session with an absolute expert and she shot back with “ how dare he make comments about me and judge me he doesnt know me or appreciate how my anxiety affects me etc”. I replied that he probably had zero idea that she existed and that I was simply sharing a different perspective from an Olympian. To which she made some kind of elitist comment and again said that she had to lie down for her anxiety. No one was judging, I was simply sharing what was a light bulb moment for me. The knee jerk reaction groan her is very telling
This may be the first video of yours ever that I don’t finish. I cannot take her anymore.
Hey Drew, I started doing CrossFit in 2006. I served in TF-16 in Ramadi, Iraq. Initially, our HQ element was from Naval Special Warfare and ALL the SEALs were doing the "Main Site Workouts" on the old CF yellow main site. I got my Level 1 in 2013, so I have truly seen the rise and fall of CF.
In my humble opinion, CrossFit's "PED-free" stance was bound to fail because it was a Lie; since PED's were in the community from the very beginning! Regardless of testing, many CF Athletes were cycling on and off throughout their year long training schedules, and consistently passing drug tests. As expected, the façade finally fell and the only people who truly suffered were the people being charged $210/month to send other people to the CF Games. We as a community should have been 100% honest; good, bad, or indifferent. Around the same time, the body building community was being VERY opened about PED use. Their athletes were told up front "this is the price of admission" take it or leave it. While CrossFit Athletes were setup to ultimately chase a "Fitness Unicorn" indefinitely.
I think Sporty Beth and people in general need to:
1. Get offline and go to an affiliate (PS if you are a garage gym enthusiast I would strongly suggest a virtual community that is affiliated - CrossFit Linchpin is one example I can personally recommend)
2. Appreciate the difference between the CrossFit Games (a competitive sport) and the CrossFit methodology
3. Understand that the majority of comments online are not made by people with first-hand knowledge of the CrossFit methodology and that the fan base of the CrossFit games is not “the CrossFit community”
The funny thing is I don't follow her, so I hadn't seen her poll when I voted on yours. I chose the middle ground because my first thought was "positive" when I think about my local community. Then I thought about the online community and Sporty Beth came to mind. It made me waver and settle on something in the middle.
I laughed way too hard at the bit about Alexis knocking you out. Then I felt a little bad about how hard I laughed. The imagery was just so funny in my mind.
I truly hope Beth hears herself in a more truer sense sometime in her life. Putting others down or shaping the narrative to fit (justify) their own inner thoughts does nothing for anyone. Its like shouting into the void and expecting the void to say "Yes i get it".
The void doesnt care.
Also, neck punch by Alexis made my day. I also no longer try to jump scare my wife after the slap heard around the world last time i tried it 😂
I was shouting at the TV in disbelief every time Beth spoke, and then Hiller said exactly what I’m sure everyone else was saying/thinking too.
Why Beth, why?! Just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.
TBH I have a lot of sympathy for Sporty Beth as a person as she is clearly not in a great place mentally. I think she really deep down hates herself. Those sorts of people really do need help even though its infuriating trying to help them. I don't have much beef with Hillers take but I do wonder if doing a communal dog pile on her is healthy for her or us? I know she's the one putting herself out there but I wonder if we would be doing her a massive favour, both mentally and physically, by just ignoring her? Especially if she is soon going to be dealing with and raising a new-born in a few months. We almost a duty of care to ignore her as odd as that may sound. IDK.
You can’t help anyone who doesn’t want help. Sympathy is empowering, empathy is understanding and recognizing you are powerless it’s all up to the individual to want help.
Beth starting to have a proper Bo Selecta face. Just go away love, you’re not happy, you’ll never be happy and you’re not helping anyone else be happy.
“Proper Bo i tell thee” - no one in the states will understand that one 😂
@@POPoftheTOPSpod those that know will know 😅
I think that Hiller was really on to something when he was talking about the source of the community in CrossFit. The community was so strong initially because everyone was so invested in the same goal of getting fitter, fitter than average, in short, better. Then the plot was lost and instead of saying this community is so strong because they all like to push the physical limits - it became this community is so strong and they don't care if you want to test your limits and get better. Am I saying everyone in the gym needs to be pounding pre-workout and doing 4 40 min AMRAPs per day? No, not at all but everyone needs to be wanting to get better. A lot of times the message of inclusiveness (which I completely believe in) gets confused with the idea that we need to accept every limitation - self-imposed or otherwise - that everyone puts on themselves. The whole goal of CrossFit was to push the limits of our capability - Oh you're good at gymnastics? How's your running? Got a huge bench? How fast can you climb this rope? Oh you can run 5 miles? How fast can you get 30 cal's on the echo bike? I just feel like the type of people that gravitate towards crossfit generally are going to clash with people that want to just accept things as they are - which is the predominant message that is getting pushed by the Sporty Beth's of the world.
How do they know the people that are leaving negative comments are all crossfitters??
My thoughts exactly
Yea, I'm loving Alexis for sure. I'm pretty much the same. ("Don't sneak up behind me")😅 Great job. Another drop the mic video. Btw, nice vascularity. 💪
The affiliate I was going to before the 'vid had stopped tracking scores, for who knows what reason. They also didn't like programming higher skill movements which they felt would "scare away" more people than it would attract.
It was about that time I just started doing my own programming.
I’m so glad she done with CrossFit, hopefully we don’t have to hear from her on this topic anymore
I supposed Sevan getting her a media pass at last year's Games was indicative of transphobia, cliques, misogyny . . . . confrontation . . . exclusive . . .
0:28. I was expecting the "is that what you think, you think?".
Beth has been doing CrossFit for 7 years - really. I would never have guessed that. 😂
Woo! He-man woman hater club content!!! 😂😂
I'm sorry, Spanky, I have to live my own life.
This is exactly the issue. Her video is the epitome of the issue and her own poll proves her argument is wrong. No place is perfect. You can’t confuse CrossFit sport and everyday CrossFit. They’re two different things. RX is NOT supposed to be inclusive. Sport at the highest level is not inclusive. Yes CrossFit has their issues no one is arguing that but this video just shows that people would rather support their agenda instead of address the problem
The clickbait sucked me right in. Great job Hiller! 😂😂😂
This woman has spent zero time in affiliates obviously.
I gotchu
I agreed with you until the last 1:00.
One thing I think you missed though, is what I realized I can’t stand about her Instagram. EVERY reel she posts is negative. It’s always for clicks and trying to get engagement about “haters”. I stopped feeling so guilty after I realized that. She doesn’t be her own cheerleader- she just keep being a person who’s like YOU HATE ME! Read how people hate me!! It’s just weird when you’re pregnant and should be super happy or at least invested in your own stuff. Idk
The dog at the end ❤
There's nothing sporty about Beth lol
She can easily be sporty and just do her things like I do.
I really want to like her channel and support her because I'm a bigger bodied athlete. Her posts are too negative and a bit of victim mentality too.
The men I trained beside are some of the nicest , kindest guys . I’m on team men ..
Unlike Beth I’ve been CONSISTENTLY doing CrossFit for over 7 years and consume CrossFit content from as many people I can. Everything she has to say is so off-base and so victim mentality driven. If anyone’s bad for CrossFit , it’s image and it’s message and how effective it can be for a healthy lifestyle. It is “sporty” Beth She is absolutely the most toxic representation of how amazing this methodology can be for anyone.
How do you apply the science to find out how you are improving or if the programming is effective if you don't use a leaderboard or record data? 🤔 p values even need data.
Feels bad man. Girl just needs some help. Like more help than she thinks.
I don't watch Beth's stuff... But ever time I hear her speak.. you can tell she's never played in sports or anything as a kid or been a part of a group that's sports related... Like I support a soccer team and our rivals hate us and they talk so much crap to us regardless about how the games against them go..
There is nothing wrong with a bit of rivalry and back and forth.. it's good to be competitive a little bit..
Also, doesn't accountability also mean if you have a different opinion from someone that you can back up your words and no go back on them? So, yeah some people don't agree with you? who cares... that one person's opinion should affect your life or what you want to do? I think she needs to take a break from the internet or look at herself in the mirror.
If you can't held a compettive sport and the positive and negative aspects of that than just do it for fun and don't give a crap..
18:44 The content we've been waiting for
I'm from the UK, I watch ALL your videos but, but...when "she" comes on, I cringe and can't watch it anymore! She nailed the awkwardness with "back in my day"! I'll come back when she's gone....until next time.
Yeah if crossfit boxes didn’t have leaderboards I wouldn’t be doing crossfit
Love how she has this issue with community, but she doesn’t track her results or even aspire to be better at sport. She likes to show that she can deadlift more than the other women and receive praise for it. However, when there’s a negative reaction, the CrossFit community is bad.
She’s such a bad look for the community. Like is she even doing CrossFit anymore, I really feel like she goes to a gym, with sparse clothing, hits a DL and makes a video about something irrelevant.
Rant Over. Despite disliking over 15 of her videos the YT algorithm thinks I love her.
Sounds like she likes Sevan and his role at CrossFit.
She actually posts “body positivity” clips 😳wow…a line from Pitch Perfect; ‘it’s refreshing, yet displeasing to the eye’!
The thought of her coaching/advising people who are starting crossfit, is deeply disturbing to me.
My God she's so delusional! I've been a part of 4 totally different CF boxes, and every one of them had a terrific community. ALL of my close friendships have been formed from the gym. I'd say her opinions come from her own insecurities.
Reddit CrossFit loves this woman and I will never understand why.
Yo, Andrew, please make a vedio diving into the "Learn" tab on mainsite.
CF affiliates/community not being friendly and inclusive ? 😂 I mean this is as friendly and inclusive as it gets. Go to a random gym and see who is friendly and communicative there 🤪
Nothing but positive. I don't think in my almost 10 years have I had a bad crossfit experience. Might be some things that have happened tbat I didn't leave from or maybe disagreed with bit the community is amazing. I feel bad for this Beth although she made a good point about the open. You guys should collaborate 😅 soon.
Is it easy for internet warriors to type what they want to type. I'd be willing to bet the most of these negative comments come from someone who has never been in a crossfit gym for more than a month.
Everything that rolls out her mouth is pure hypocrisy. People dont understand that you actually go easy on her all things considered. She's one of the participation award peeps. And she talks with this sense of entitlement that everyone needs to act in a way to please her. The next generation is going to be even worse
‘Well, it’s not click bait.’😂😂 Classic Hiller.
@hillerfit when are you coming to CrossFit Wanderlust Bali? Over 100 people today in one 9am class. From first timers to elite athletes. None of this EVER happens here.
Negativity might peak or draw my initial interest, but positivity get's my engagement😊thus the RUclips, Hillerfit technique😂
I heard a story about a soccer fan that made a fake dating profile, catfished a rival clubs fan, had him fly all the way out to this other clubs area just to tell him he got catfished. Other sports are worse
I have watched her for some time - she is clearly struggling mentally. What I am most concerned about is she is about to become a mother and she has admitted repeatedly that she is not in a good headspace. Not good when you are about to become a parent.
My favorite part of the video is Alexis knocking ya out!😂
Alexis’s stick! When I read stick I was thinking PVC pipe, not an actual stick. 🤣
What kind of watch are you wearing Mr. hiller?
Was in a cf gym for years. It was too clicky like high schoolers after awhile. I'll never go back to one again. I'll train solo
Yet, she will attempt to get a media pass at the Games . . . . which will be held where? Oh - yes - in the UNITED STATES!
I’m not sure these comments she shares are even real. Unless she’s deleting them immediately I’ve not seen any of the comments she shares, or even similar ones.
Its sooo bad, yet she's still here.
The problem is her "CrossFit Community" are only online commenters... My take is she has assumed that all these "trolls" are apart of the CrossFit Community because they watch her videos. I don't see her actually posting comments or videos from people at actual boxes. Just the comments she gets on her posts. Prove to me these people are actually apart of the CrossFit community. And you attract what you put out into the world. If you want to constantly focus on the bad in the world, that's all you are going to see. Change your perspective and focus on the good and you will far less of the negative.
I don't understand how women will call Men misogynistic in the same breath saying how much they hate men and think men sucks the double standards is crazy
SB is so nauseating 🤮🤮 just can’t get through 1 video…
Ok, keep the dog the reason to make it to the end of the video!!!!! Get the stick!
Appreciate the reaction, but listening to her is very difficult. Constant whining is grating.
I enjoyed the editing/cuts
Her videos are like watching someone self harm.