What a WASTE of money for the city | 2022 Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS City Test

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  • @cloud9847
    @cloud9847 Год назад +5

    I doubt many people realize the effort that's going into these camera angles. It's so subtle I doubt people even realize you have 2 rides being filmed. It's really clever.

  • @scottsspeedtriplechannel
    @scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 года назад +28

    I've had my 1200RS for about 7 months. I now have nearly 5000 miles on it. I can find neutral from first at a stop easily most of the time now. It was really hard for the first 2-3 thousand miles, but has broken in or smoothed out nicely. Maybe one out of 20 times does it just jump to 2nd gear and then a quick tap down to neutral.

    • @yashinnil5047
      @yashinnil5047 2 года назад +2

      Exact same experience for me aswell!

    • @inverlane1939
      @inverlane1939 2 года назад +2

      I have only covered 120 miles and was hoping that a few thousand miles would reduce the selector shift pressure. Your positive feedback has cheered me up 😊

    • @giovanniricci2869
      @giovanniricci2869 2 года назад +1

      Really useful info since everyone testing it keeps complaining about finding the neutral 👍✌️

    • @spookdoa
      @spookdoa 2 года назад +3

      I have gotten several thousand miles on mine and now when rolling up to a stop in second, with a little light pressure on the down shift with the speed shifter I can go right to neutral without going to first. If I want to get into first and miss neutral with the speed shifter, I just bang down a bit quicker and harder.

    • @Theninjadeathhawk
      @Theninjadeathhawk 2 года назад +1

      I have a 1050 the only gripe I have about it is that the transmission is clunky but everything else is perfect

  • @colonelquickshifter6534
    @colonelquickshifter6534 2 года назад +2

    Picked mine up today after trading in my 1050… the new ST is amazing a wonderful road bike - I love it …I’ve had 3 ST’s, BMW’s , ducatis ans this triumph is competing at the highest level - incredible bike - I’ll do my review soon

  • @NicePantsLance
    @NicePantsLance 2 года назад +26

    OC: I must have super powers then, because I didn't have a single issue getting it into neutral 🧐 even on my first test ride, I popped it into neutral first try
    One of the smoothest gearboxes I've ever felt to be honest. If that clutch makes your hand tired, I have absolutely no idea how you handled the Indian cruisers and the Rocket 3.

    • @GalpersKCCO
      @GalpersKCCO 2 года назад +3

      +1 Not to mention you only have to squeeze the clutch at stop/first gear takeoff. Every other shift, up or down, is literally clutch-less thanks to the blipper.

    • @jordankelly4684
      @jordankelly4684 2 года назад +9

      this guy is the biggest whiner on the planet, he makes motorcyclists look bad

  • @EvolvingMale
    @EvolvingMale 2 года назад +7

    I recently reviewed a Duke 890r and it's neutral is equally difficult to find. My 2020 street triple is fine.

  • @conairehewlett7576
    @conairehewlett7576 2 года назад +5

    @chaseontwowheels I have one, to fix the neutral "issue". It's different to to say a 765 or Daytona. You don't go from first up into neutral. You need to go from first to second then half down neutral. It's to stop false neutrals when shifting up.

  • @cccycling5835
    @cccycling5835 2 года назад +2

    2:35 lol "You Go."
    Sometimes you just gotta take command.

  • @xorbe2
    @xorbe2 2 года назад +5

    Too much power, _perfect._ I love riding mine around the city, it purrs just fine at low rpms. Adjust the suspension settings, and swap out the stupid stiff oem tires. It's 425 pounds +/- half tank of gas, that's not heavy. Go to 2nd to get into N a lot easier. I ride around in Sport mode no problem. My clutch lever rattles too. OC.

  • @TriumphLover
    @TriumphLover 2 года назад +1

    I got the 2011 Speed Triple from day 1 and neutral isn't that bad. Did a little adjusting down on the engine adjusting cable. Helped out a lot. I'm getting the 2022 1200RR sometime in January/February we'll see how that goes. But nobody is going to buy the RS or the RR and do city riding. You go in do your thing and get out.

  • @jeffmccollum3769
    @jeffmccollum3769 2 года назад +4

    I have had the bike since April. It gets better, and very easy to drop into Neutral from Second. I love it and I think it is a Super Naked Bike

    • @bjrkK
      @bjrkK 2 года назад +1

      Would you recommend it? Is it reliable?

  • @jasonleverton3656
    @jasonleverton3656 2 года назад +4

    If "too much power for the city" is the worst you got I'd say that's a good thing. My Neutral was hard to find for the first 1000 miles or so, nice now. I am smitten with my 1200 RS, I do however live an hour from the city, in the twisty mountains (but that doesn't happen apparently).

    • @luegolover355
      @luegolover355 2 года назад

      Well it doesn't happen where I live but, I envy you

  • @Metrobus271
    @Metrobus271 2 года назад +2

    My 2011 Speed Triple has the same issue. While coasting below 10 mph it’s easier to find neutral but impossible from a complete stop.
    Also, using a high grade full synthetic oil helps with mine.

  • @JDelta87
    @JDelta87 2 года назад +4

    OC: I had the outgoing RS and it wasn't a problem getting into neutral so it's shocking to hear that it is on the new one. Also, not a fan of how now only one headlight is for low beam now when it was dual low/high on the outgoing RS.

  • @ceejaypilot4226
    @ceejaypilot4226 2 года назад +2

    OC-very impressed with its flexibility in urban environments; transmission may be a distraction, but can overlook for that flexible punch when you want it.

  • @traviscarter9300
    @traviscarter9300 2 года назад +2

    2021 CB1000R. It is killer for all my riding. City, mountain carving, touring. Does it all fabulous. It also is a rocket ship when you want it to be. Love it. Dream bike.

    • @jlock9085
      @jlock9085 2 года назад +1

      It's a great bike. Prob top 10 all around bike. I say the fazer 900 edges it out though.

    • @mikev6046
      @mikev6046 2 года назад

      Black Edition?

    • @traviscarter9300
      @traviscarter9300 2 года назад

      @@mikev6046 yes

  • @scottsspeedtriplechannel
    @scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 года назад +1

    I agree with the one comment about the suspension being too stiff. I have had my 1200RS for over six months. In the first week, I set the sag and preload to very soft settings. I set front and rear preload to only about 1/8 and compression/rebound to about the same. I only weigh 155 pounds and use the bike to commute in FL on a lot of concrete road and bridges. I don't find it too harsh. I do take my weight off the seat a lot going over rough areas though. When I went to the Tail of the Dragon in October, I did need to stiffen it up some, still not to 1/4 stiffness, and have left it that way since. I know the one you rode was a loaner, but if you do ride it again. I suggest you have the suspension set up for you. I worked for a Triumph dealer for years and I know the bikes cone set up for 180-200+ pound riders. It will never be a soft and cushiony ride, but it is not as bad as most reviews make it seem.

    • @dddon513
      @dddon513 4 месяца назад

      Can you advise on what you're changing out for the customer? Different springs? Something else?

  • @lungtamik
    @lungtamik 2 года назад +2

    I've had my Speed 1200 RS for 6 months now and after 3000 miles, the neutral is easier to find than when it was brand new. It still is kind of notchy compared to my 2020 Street RS where it was butter smooth. I recently got a gear shift support from Racetorx which also helps having a more direct feel. I'm suprised when you say the Speed Triple feels way heavier than the MT 09 SP. The MT09SP is only 10 lbs lighter than the Speed RS, all fueled up.

    • @bjrkK
      @bjrkK 2 года назад

      Would you recommend the 1200 rs? Do you think it is reliable? Considering it as my next bike.

    • @rogerbarfell9075
      @rogerbarfell9075 Год назад

      Yes would recommend bike is awesome

  • @scottsspeedtriplechannel
    @scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 года назад +1

    Ever since 1994 and the first Triumph "Hooligan" or "naked" bike was introduced, people had quick gut reactions about the looks. They either loved it or hated it. When the double headlight model came out, it got even worse. If you think about it though, unlike cars and trucks, motorcycles have always had vastly different styling throughout the available model ranges leading to very strong opinions. Not only Triumph and not only a few models, if you look at say 100 various bikes, you'll find that you have very different opinions on the looks of the different bikes.

  • @JasonYergin
    @JasonYergin 2 года назад +2

    LOL… you get used to finding neutral pretty quick. I guess I would describe it as a slight little nudge up from 1st.

  • @corey-jadeclarke-brown6934
    @corey-jadeclarke-brown6934 Год назад +2

    The suspension is fully customisable ‐ so put it in the setting best for race tracks when riding in the city. Sounds legit. 😐

  • @yashinnil5047
    @yashinnil5047 2 года назад +2

    There is a cure for the difficult neutral, unfortunately, it's time. You need to break her in. once past about 4000 km, it gets noticeably easier to shift into neutral.
    My benchmark for a useable neutral is when I see the traffic lights 200meters (1/8 mile ) away just turning red, I can shift down from 5th gear to 4th to 3rd to 2nd then to neutral and coast to the stoplight. I could NOT do this when the bike was brand new but now, 4000kms in,I CAN now. Happy days!
    Also YES I get so much more looks and conversations on this bike than on my 2015 superduke 1290. I honestly think it appeals to more normal people cause it looks classy. It tends to be the riders who prefer/own other bikes that dislike the design, though so far many who dislike it haven't seen it in person.

    • @MrRGM10
      @MrRGM10 2 года назад

      didnt solve that my buddy has 1 . it would only go if coming 2nd to neutral. not a bike for city traffic

  • @mikeyfreestyler64
    @mikeyfreestyler64 Год назад

    2.46 thank god for those brembos! test road one yesterday and the brakes are something to behold!

  • @rafiqrosli3967
    @rafiqrosli3967 2 года назад +2

    What an absolutely stunning city area! I live in asia and seeing the orange trees and the blue sky coupled with the contrast of the buildings is beautiful! Haha i know this is a motorcycle review video but wow.

  • @scottsspeedtriplechannel
    @scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 года назад +2

    I hope the neutral issue does not change anyone's mind about buying this bike if they like everything else because after a few thousand miles, mine has broken in nicely. I still have the issue occasionally, but not much.

  • @SovaKlr
    @SovaKlr 2 года назад +4

    The 2012 Speed Triple 1050 neutral was the same. Exactly the same. Transmission was great while moving, never missed a shift. Hard AF to get to N.

    • @cfbcory
      @cfbcory 2 года назад

      Same with my 07 Daytona. You’ll spend minutes tryna put it in neutral.

    • @MFT_RAW
      @MFT_RAW 2 года назад

      I have a 2011. I find if you two finger clutch, its hard to get neutral. I usually end up using four when I know I want neutral, but just hold it in with two at the lights.

    • @SovaKlr
      @SovaKlr 2 года назад

      @@MFT_RAW if your girl needs all four fingers something is wrong... oh, shit, my bad. Wrong conversation. Carry on.

  • @truthcrusader4521
    @truthcrusader4521 2 года назад +1

    The rider stated it was a little heavy? I watched a naked bike shootout and and they said the Triumph was the lightest in it's class. Test riders complain about the stiff track suspension setup but I have yet to see a test video on adjusting the high quality Ohlin's for bumpy road riding and then riding the bike. That would obviously be the next video to do. This is a good looking bike no doubt and arguably the best looking bike in it's class. It would be nice if Triumph offered a nice half fairing kit for this bike.

  • @2wheelcrew556
    @2wheelcrew556 2 года назад

    OC...Looks like a great riding position. I guess you get so many compliments since you look pretty sharp on the bike.. gear and all. Great review.!

  • @jeffy3964
    @jeffy3964 3 месяца назад

    I’ve not had a problem at all getting into neutral fantastic bike!! Love it

  • @joshbryant7363
    @joshbryant7363 4 месяца назад

    I have a 2016…the neutral hunt is real. It’s annoying. And I would put it on an extremely short list of things I don’t like about my bike. Would absolutely love a new one (though I would really consider the street as well). I ride it around the city just fine, and I’m 5’9” 165. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @steve_poole
    @steve_poole 2 года назад +1

    I've ridden a couple of Bonnevilles that were exactly the same almost impossible to find neutral while stopped. That and having to have the clutch pulled in to start them is enough for me to not buy a triumph.

  • @damionharris8776
    @damionharris8776 Год назад

    The dealership fixed the neutral aspect for me and it's much better than it was initially.

  • @blairknight7793
    @blairknight7793 7 месяцев назад

    I daily a 1200 RS, find neutral going from 2nd down, not 1st up. 13,000km, it happens easy once you work that out.
    Also back your spring rates way out and set your shock rates and its much much nicer. Stock its way too hard, Ive got mine pretty nice now.
    My gear shift input shaft breaks right off the gearbox at 13,000km. Its very poorly designed.

  • @scottsspeedtriplechannel
    @scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 года назад

    BTW, thanks for the great videos on the Speed Triple. I have watched them all. Keep it up.

  • @KawabachiFL
    @KawabachiFL 2 года назад +6

    Goodmorning! Jesus loves you.

  • @kylekyle8131
    @kylekyle8131 2 года назад

    Im glad my 2016 speed triple R didn't have that issue. Phew!

  • @rudyrobertson1540
    @rudyrobertson1540 2 года назад

    I wish I had Atlanta weather. Its been 35 degrees and raining non stop here in Seattle

  • @scottsspeedtriplechannel
    @scottsspeedtriplechannel 2 года назад

    I still find that after a cold start (and I live in FL) the clutch is notchy or jerky. After a few miles, it smooths out nicely.

  • @oseh438
    @oseh438 2 года назад +4

    My favourite bike literally ever! It looks better In matt silver ice imo

    • @GalpersKCCO
      @GalpersKCCO 2 года назад

      Fav bike ever for me too and I like the matte silver as well, but the highlighter yellow that comes with it kills the look for me. Gotta go black/red just so I don't have to look at that yellow. 🤮

    • @luegolover355
      @luegolover355 2 года назад +2

      No way, black all day long for me.

  • @thedawapenjor
    @thedawapenjor Год назад

    Not sure if it helps but rev matching really helped me with my bike.

  • @Frank_Torre
    @Frank_Torre 2 года назад

    OC: The looks of the Speed Triple are alot like the MT09 SP and the entire MT Line-up. Their polarizing. Some love them, some hate them. The performance of the Speed Triple is surprising city wise but some Triumphs are known for the neutral issue. Like a hot Panigale you learn to live with it or you get rid of it. I'd love to test ride a Speed Triple RS to see if it would sway me away from the MT09 SP. It have to be phenomenal to bridge the cost gap between the Speed Triple RS and the MT09 SP.

    • @richardcerritelli9657
      @richardcerritelli9657 Год назад +1

      I have a 2005 GSXR Hayabusa I'm looking to upgrade it has too much lean in my back starts bothering me I'm looking at the Speed Triple 1200 RS brand new and a brand-new mt10 both 2023 models something about the mt10 just turns me off it looks so cheesy I just don't know what it is now the Speed Triple looks to be more high-quality but I don't know never been on either the dealer wants $10,000 out the door with my bike for the mt10 anyone's 13,000 out the door for the Speed Triple 1200 Tumi I'm leaning towards the Speed Triple what's your take.

    • @Frank_Torre
      @Frank_Torre Год назад

      @@richardcerritelli9657 If you're looking at the base MT10 compared to the Speed Triple RS, I'd say the Triumph takes it. Though if you compare the MT10 SP to the Speed Triple RS their much closer. Honestly people make too much of a fuss over the MT line-up. As you'll be hard pressed to find a better performing naked that's also widely considered beautiful, aside from the Ducati Streetfighter V2 and V4. I've not rode the new Speed Triple RS yet as I just got a new Aprilia RSV4 Factory limited. But having rode the new MT10 SP I can tell you that it'll be really hard to find anything bad to say about it other than it's looks that have always been polarizing. Yet the same can be said for the Street Triple and Speed Triple line-up. I do believe the new Speed Triple has a slightly more aggressive riding triangle compared to the MT10 or MT10 SP, but I'd bet it's not really noticeable during daily riding. If it was my money I'd go with the MT10 SP as I can only judge the Speed Triple RS by what I heard about it. While my test ride of the MT10 SP didn't disappoint one bit.

  • @lateralus9244
    @lateralus9244 2 года назад +1

    Is there a way to rewire the headlights so that they are both on at the same time and then still switch to high beams? So basically, having both low and high beam access in both headlamps. Is there a way to do this because it looks kinda stupid with just one headlamp on on just one side of the bike?

  • @happyhalfwit8862
    @happyhalfwit8862 2 года назад

    The neutral is a total pain . Am trying to find out from the dealers if there are answers as it been out here a year longer. The tyres are the other issue as they are frisky in the wet and again as yet Triumph have not issued a list of recommended alternatives . Otherwise its a stunning bike thats a pleasure in all types of riding, just tweak the dampers to suit.

  • @18yzfr66
    @18yzfr66 11 месяцев назад

    Currently debating on the street or the speed. The 765 RS seems like a steal but I do like something with a punch but no too much for the streets. Is it too powerful where you can’t really enjoy every gear?

  • @phlacoe
    @phlacoe 2 года назад

    I have a 2010 speed triple (looking to upgrade). I just stay in a higher gear. Then when I roll on the throttle, it's not so dramatic (yes I know the new one has more power).

  • @jlock9085
    @jlock9085 2 года назад +1

    I still say a yamaha fazer 900 is the best all around bike bar none. You can find year old used ones under 10k. 2nd place goes to the latest Gen Ninja 650. 3rd place to the R3. CHANGE MY MIND.

    • @luegolover355
      @luegolover355 2 года назад

      They look a tad dull to me, apologies and all,...

  • @Aiken47
    @Aiken47 2 года назад

    Meh, it’s only a problem if you’re trying to wring it’s neck, it’s not the pani 1299, now that’s difficult in 50kph zones

  • @phantomnus
    @phantomnus 2 года назад

    Have you ever dine anything about which bike would be best for a beginner?

  • @chillyourself5208
    @chillyourself5208 2 года назад

    This makes sense

  • @hawaiielite
    @hawaiielite 2 года назад +1

    Was on the fence between this and the the 2022 MT10 SP. After watching this vid, there's several deal breakers for me. I'm going with the 2022 MT10 SP. Thanks

    • @outdoors-gs9td
      @outdoors-gs9td 2 года назад

      what was biggest factor to go Yamaha? my best friend rode the triple and loved it but ent with the BMW 1000R, I think comfort was one factor, said triple was wicked fast, but hes going full exhaust, tuned etc. lol

  • @jasonleverton3656
    @jasonleverton3656 2 года назад

    I feel this was more of a scooter test, than a supernaked test. Why did you set the suspension hard like you were doing a trackday for a slow, rough city test? Get the driving mode out of road, ramp the power delivery to sport or track to test it!...and its the lightest supernaked by quite a bit.

  • @danielmoralesjr6470
    @danielmoralesjr6470 2 года назад

    The praymantis!

  • @whatsamatta6226
    @whatsamatta6226 2 года назад +1

    OC: Speed Triple RS is only liter bike worth owning. It's perfected the combination of track, sport, and comfort in motorcycles of this class. You could make a case for the Tuono, but I personally don't see the Tuono as a naked bike.

  • @josephcuison5412
    @josephcuison5412 2 года назад +1

    I had this bike as a demo unit for a few days to get the feel for the RR I am planning to get when it arrives at the local dealership. I find that people who whine about the neutral issue are just not mechanically inclined enough to know that all is needed on cable clutches is to adjust the amount of free play available on the clutch lever. All it takes is a few turns on the free play barrel adjuster in order to tighten it up a bit. That’s what I always do before I jump on a bike I’ll be riding for the first time. I think new riders should learn how to adjust cable clutches and get into that habit of checking free play first before complaining about getting into neutral and give negative comments on YT about a bike that is perfectly fine. Even after owning a bike with a cable clutch for sometime, always check free play after every few hundred kilometers as cables tend to stretch over time and clutch plates wear out, factors that affect clutch engagement and the ease or difficulty in getting into neutral.
    Edit: @ 9:20, the OP mentioned the clutch lever “shakes” or too loose. That is a sign that there really is too much free play and not quite disengaging the clutch, hence difficulty finding neutral.

  • @radicalkonrad765
    @radicalkonrad765 Год назад +1

    I'm learning most youtubers "too much power" is a proper amount of power for me

  • @Myself6M
    @Myself6M 2 года назад

    But on the video you seemed to find Neutral just fine. I am confused!

    • @jonnybegood4848
      @jonnybegood4848 2 года назад

      From what I see he's just holding the clutch in. If that's the case an owner doing this is going to put some unnecessary wear on that the machine over time.

    • @Myself6M
      @Myself6M 2 года назад +1

      @@jonnybegood4848 The screen shows N!

    • @jonnybegood4848
      @jonnybegood4848 2 года назад +1

      @@Myself6M Nice catch. Hopefully I'm more observant of things when I'm riding. :)

    • @Myself6M
      @Myself6M 2 года назад

      @@jonnybegood4848 Thanks man!

  • @gt4_driver631
    @gt4_driver631 2 года назад +1

    What a surprise! 🙄🙃

  • @EvolvingMale
    @EvolvingMale 2 года назад

    Love this bike

  • @gnarcore3960
    @gnarcore3960 2 года назад

    Why wont they just change the headlights :,)

  • @brandino9000
    @brandino9000 2 года назад +1

    the S3 is only 423lbs LOL

  • @Champion2Manager
    @Champion2Manager 2 года назад +2

    Too much power for the city 🏙 🚀 💥

    • @luegolover355
      @luegolover355 2 года назад

      Why? That's the thin end of the wedge where the other end is that only 125cc bikes should used in town

  • @andyyougoonie
    @andyyougoonie 2 года назад

    But is it too much Smort?

  • @alexduey7868
    @alexduey7868 2 года назад

    I mean the samller the better if all you do it city riding and if its short enough an electric scooter is better then any motorcycle.

  • @commanderroddi7742
    @commanderroddi7742 Год назад

    My Yammmy R1M did "alright" but she would bitch and get all hot and bothered in the city... ;) She loved the highway and Canyons though. Street Triple did awesome in City! also in Canyons. Looking for a new bike (Naked this time) so I'm interested in these videos. If I owned this bike, I'd keep the suspension Soft until I plan to ride it hard. I"d believe you can count the clicks and just remember (or write down on your phone or somewhere) which settings is good for, lets say, CItty, TRack, etc). Good video.
    OC Basedon its samler sibling, I thought It'd do alright.

  • @eb-pe8xg
    @eb-pe8xg Год назад

    Have you mastered how to shift a motorcycle transmission into neutral yet? I have no problem finding neutral on my 2022 Speedy RS.

  • @Zh2_viraj
    @Zh2_viraj 2 года назад

    Totally waste of money in Indian mkt it’s to much heating problem

  • @juricuozzo1003
    @juricuozzo1003 2 года назад

    This guy…… if it didn't exist it would have to be invented !!
    Rightly one buys a 180hp motorcycle just for the
    city, and then for the rest. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
    This bike is an amazing machine for the city also,actually probably one of the best choise for!
    …. go back to driving electric scooters, thank you

  • @aressimbamt0959
    @aressimbamt0959 2 года назад

    just buy japan bike

  • @sanxi34
    @sanxi34 2 года назад

    How do you solve Triumph’s neutral problem? Get a Yamaha hahahaha =P

  • @leinallat292
    @leinallat292 2 года назад +1

    1st viewer from Philippines