Same here, neutral is not hard to find at all, I think people are used to a heavier response from the shift lever and push it too hard, but having owned a Triumph previously I have had no issues.
Wait till the gear shift input shaft breaks off the box, 13,000km mine broke clean off. I know of a mechanic at a KTM dealer that had his do the same, right at the circlip groove.
Had this bike for a few days. Had no issue with finding neutral. Cable clutches need to have the free play properly adjusted. If you find it hard to get into neutral, I’m pretty sure you didn’t take care to check the free play or most likely you didn’t know it’s a factor.
PLEASE make more Speed Triple content! REALLY thinking this may be my next bike but I have about 5-6 more months of saving so I’ll be living vicariously through videos like these!
I have had my 1200RS since May. I believe I got the first one in North FL. As long as you have a few years of riding experience, you'll love this bike. It is pretty powerful, the handling and braking are second to none and the riding position is very comfortable. Finding neutral at first was a witch, but has cleared up nicely after a couple of thousand miles. Like the video says, this bike will make you feel very confident after only a few weeks of riding.
@@scottsspeedtriplechannel nice! I have a few years on a POWERFUL Harley shredding the Ozarks but I know braking and power will be a whole new beast but that’s the fun to me. “Taming a beast”. I love my Harley but something more refined is what I want next I believe. Something I don’t have to put a quart of oil in a month.
I love this bike I'm going to start recording me ripping it in the canyon and post on here cuz no one is really ripping this bike on you tube they are mainly riding around town and shit and let me tell you this bike loves the twisties
@@scottsspeedtriplechannel been riding 45 years , I've had them all . Speed triple never fails to put a smile on my face , favorite bike ever . '11 had to sell , on a '15 now
I don't understand why going into neutral is an issue, the only time i put my bikes in neutral is on start up which is dumb easy or if i'm lubing my chain. The bike goes into neutral pretty easy as long as the clutch is fully engaged, if i was running though the gears the last thing i would want is it going easy into neutral.
I was one of the first to get a 1200RS in the UK. I've had many big bikes and like to ride them hard. Make no mistake this is the best handling hypernaked motorcycle you can buy today. My only regret is that triumph do not yet offer the semi active suspension they are installing on the new RR, as i would have paid the extra cash for it. My only two issues with the bike are first and foremost, it is an absolute proper pain in the ass to get into neutral and secondly I wished that Triumph had given us just 1 extra litre capacity for petrol as it's only 15.5 litres, however that seems to be the way all manufacturers are going unless you buy a touring bike. Other than that, believe you and me after spending nearly nine months with the RS it is utterly awesome and totally unflappable. It makes you feel like your a riding god, but what else did anyone expect....triumph don't make crap handling bikes ;-D
The neutral thing, I'm used to that with Ducati. If are at the headligt try to roll the bike forward just a littel bit. A few inch/centimeter will due. And you will preobably fin it.
I m surprised by the amount of comments about finding neutral. Interestingly I owned a 2011 speed triple and I had the same issue. BUT this was only a thing for me because I needed to have it in neutral in order to get my garage opener out of my jacket pocket. What i m noticing is so many people are used to getting into neutral at red lights. In my opinion this is a bad / amateur thing to do . I was taught to have it in first gear, clutch pulled in , and only one foot down, that way you are ready to take off quickly if necessary. Am I the only one thinking this way ?
I couldn't imagine going into neutral on any public road at a stop. Only time I do it is if I need to fix something at a light. Heck, I have an amazon keychain garage door remote so I just push it with my throttle hand as I am pulling in. That said, I usually have to take a few attempts finding neutral on my Striple. It's fine, neutral isn't ever really needed.
What a bike! Supernakeds are incredible! I was a bit disappointed with the bmw but once i can get enough money i will trade my er6n (which i love) for either this bike or a mt10! And if i get lucky with my investments i will even consider a streetfighter v4!
The RS model you're on is $18.5k off the website, not $21k. You can get them for $18.3k at some dealers You're thinking of the new Speed Triple RR that just came out, priced at $20,950 Great video otherwise though 🤘 loved the Speed Triple series. Would love to see you spend some time with the new Tiger 1200!!
@@motorjack141 Sigh, ok. When you dont fully disengage the clutch the clutch disk, pressure plate and flywheel dont fully separate ... which cases it to slip ... that causes friction and wear which is eaxctly why you dont ride a clutch. Same thing here. Not disengaging the clutch also adds unecessary wear to the syncronisers. There is no reason to do it. New transmissions have a break in period where finding neutral might be tricky but with propper use for multiple reasons they tend to get easier in not much time at all. What wont help is not haivng an iota of mechanical sympathy,
I am going to get a 2023 model in December or January. I currently have a Speed Triple 1050. It is a 2014 model and I just had it serviced, so it will go through the summer riding season one final time with me. However, I really want a 1200 RS! I am tempted to get the orange one, but I don't know yet.
Man the Speedy 1200 is a truly stunning bike. I'm not sure the RR version is worth the extra £3k but both the RS and RR are amazing bikes. That RR in white is lovely but like I said that's a lot of extra money for a bikini fairing unless you'll make the most of the trick suspension. So yeah, my money would be the RS in black and red.
You’re basically paying for the active suspension. My thing is I don’t even want it, I just hate the look of the front wing fairings and the RR has much better lines
@@monkmoto1887 I disagree. Just remove the front wing fairings and put the "standard" fairing on. Then it looks in my opinion better than the RR. Which is a great looking bike. But yeah its mostly the price of bit of carbon fibre and active suspension ... and the lower production numbers. All of which makes the extra cost not unreasonable.
So after two days of ownership here’s my two cents on some of your comments on the RS Chase. First I agree, the seating position for a naked bike is slightly on the aggressive side. I’ve decided to purchase some 30mm bar risers which should put me right about where I want to be. Suspension - Albeit set out of the box on the firm side, I find this suspension to be very compliant and only one step lower than the ECS Ohlins on the V4S I owned. Clutch Lever - mine hardly vibrates at all! Finally the neutral topic - I am NOT seeing any of the neutral issues you report and my bike only has 120 miles. It does need a more delicate touch of the foot than most motorcycles; however, it only took me about 40 miles to acclimate to it. I do NOT need to shift up to 2nd down to 1st over and over to find neutral as you describe. I think you’re doing this bike a disservice by scaring folks into not purchasing it due to your reported neutral issue. Maybe you demoed a lemon or I purchased a diamond in the rough 😆
@Chaseontwowheels being a MT10 owner, how would you compare the '22 SP vs the '22 Triple RS? I'm stuck with the decision as I love the MT with the electronic Ohlins, but at almost the same price the RS has angle sensitive traction and ABS control, is 16kg lighter and much better fuel enconomy.
OC, I'm so tempted 🤗 I had a street triple for a little while, very nice bike. I just love BMW's but this bike and have been on the r1250r and the r9t. I would love to test ride this bike. Kind of reminds me of the S1000r. Thank you for your honest review.
I bought a 2021 street triple R in February. I came from a 05' Roadking. I love my street triple. It is the most fun I've had in years. My only concern is the seat. I can ride comfortably for maybe 3 hours before I really need to stop and give my butt a rest. I am not experiencing the shifting into neutral problem on mine however.. I suggest if you want to save a few thousand dollars just go with the R. I also like having the analog tachometer. The R is a very good choice, so much fun!
I've had a 2007 Speed Triple for years. I picked it up after my CBR 1000rr was stolen out of my parking garage. I've always thought that if the Speed Triple had 20-30 more horsepower it would be the perfect bike and the new model has that. It has one of the best sounding engines I have heard on a bike. I've been tempted to pick up the new model but haven't had the chance to yet. When the time comes I think I am going to have to get one.
I test rode the rs today ...definitely an awesome bike but I jumped off it and ran back to my street triple rs with joy . Yes more grunt , great brakes , maybe great handling for a big bike but the front just felt soooo much less agile , the display was great , lots of amazing details but overall , for me , not a better bike , I guess ( for me ) bigger is not better.
I am just getting to know it but my first thoughts are the same. Rode a street 765rs for 3 years and it was perfect. The speed (which I have had for under 2 months) is warming on me but time will tell if it has stepped just outside of that butter zone that the street lives in.
yep - i went from a ST3 to the Speed Triple (2019) looking for more grunt and found that it was a far less engaging ride (just stay in 3rd all day) and lost that telepathic flickability I loved in the canyons - more like riding a bull. But man what an engine and chassis. Just begged to be ridden in the triple digit range - pun intended ! In the end I traded it in after a year. Just too much for a commuter, not a great canyon carver, really just perfect for those long open curvy highways. I miss it though.
Mine is hard to find neutral, takes a real knack. Id be more concerned with the gear shift input shaft sticking out a full 8 x diameter, mine broke clean off the box at 13,000km. I know of a bike mechanic that had his RS do the exact same thing. My service manager said yes it's common for these like it's no issue.
You should never ride any bike the same as the other until you know the bike. It's ignorant to say the riding aides on the triple hinder you as a rider on another bike. Be responsible and respect of the bike, no matter what it is.
I bought my 22 in November. I loved the way it looked and the specs sounded great. It’s the only bike I have bought with out test riding. Thankfully I do love the bike. Lol
Almost 2000 miles on mine already (I have 2 other bikes taking my time too) and I absolutely love it. Added heated grips, flyscreen, and the tank bag. I tried the BMW, Ducati, Aprilia, Ktm. The triumph was most comfortable by far. Lots of comments about stiff suspension and neutral. They are actually sprung too soft and most people are bottoming out... and getting to neutral is not an issue for me. Who the hell is constantly trying to find neutral lmao??! Mine specifically goes in with a little effort. If the SF4 had cruise I might have went that way just because I like the looks better but man the Triumph fits so much better and my middle aged body needs that cruise button!
Have you had any issues with it at all? I heard the 21s had some issues with oil leaking and an exhaust bracket problem. Jw, cuz I'm looking to pick one up.
Just bought my first bike with ABS after 35 years of riding. A 14 Street Triple R. My other bike is a 09' Comcours 14 non-ABS. My Triumph is definitely better for warm weather but I will take it out if the temps are in the 50's. The Kawasaki can be out in all weather. The Triumph is a great second bike in my opinion. Nice review.
OC: Fantastic bike. Yes, the perfect "summer" bike. I think it's the perfect bike period. Waiting for these to hit the used market around $15k. I still won't buy one cause I'm broke, but this bike would be UNBELIEVABLE value at that price point.
I think the 17+ Aprilia Tuono is a lot more bike for your money in this bracket-bought mine for 11k with under 10,000 miles, an exhaust and zero damage. 175+ hp, incredibly comfortable, more stylish (to me), proven powertrain, amazing sound, TFT dash, modern electronics…its the best bike I’ve ever owned.
How in the world I mean SERIOUSLY How do otherwise wonderful engineers NOT accomplish something as simple as an easy nuetral selection??? I agree that is a deal killer unless they will knock off SERIOUS money off the top! The other unforgivable is apparently not providing a simple mounting option for a NICE windscreen for touring! Ya know? I know it is not marketed AS a "sports tourer" but when I bike has the basic ingredients WHY the heck not at least TRY to accomodate that part of the market! For a guy like me that would really love to not have to have TWO bikes to do both canyon carving AND day long touring runs in comfort! I also suspect they have needless screwed the pooch on power delivery! If Yamaha's little 890 triple can have a wonderful wide power band starting down low then sure seems like a 1200 triple could do basically the same thing only mega! Sheesh its like Triumph so badly wants to build full on track bike but then they refuse to put a full fairing on one! Yes they put a cafe fairing on this bike but who is buying THAT instead of a Pannigale or Blade or Ninja etc? Someone in charge of Triumph marketing has their head in a dark stinky place Im afraid Its almost like someone wants to comit sabotage or something in key corporate areas
You don’t like the shifter not finding neutral but there’s definitely a bright side because it won’t miss-shift. You can be confident that when you’re getting on it with all the beans, you won’t feel like a putz reving the crap out of the engine while not going anywhere. I fk’n hate that. KUDOS to Triumph for designing the speed triple to just go into second like it should. I love that !!! I’d buy that bike just for that reason.
Surely take it to your dealership and tell them about how hard it is to get into neutral. I'm sure they would fix it. It they don't ring up Triumph UK and they will help you.
sitting on ohlins suspension for a month and you didnt even mess with the clickers.......make such a difference especially with ohlins......suspension is everything and will completley transform a bike
The Nutral thing will get better with use, it's quite common on triumph bikes, the box needs to bed in, 5k usually does the trick, you will find it gets better and better until you no longer have an issue.
Great video. I've been off two wheels for 2 years now, sold last FZ09 to pay off a student load. Now am cash-happy and deciding what to do this spring. Local dealer has a demo version of this for $15,499, with 4K miles. Tempting.
I own one (it's the third Speedy I've owned). I've had no issues. IT IS NOT a sport touring bike, a cruiser, or an adventure bike so don't expect it to ride like one. It's scary fast. The brakes, chassis, and suspension are fantastic. Speed Triple vs Street Triple, pick your poison. One is fast and brutish, one is fast an nimble...Both are great.
Nice review! So, I'm purchasing the RS for the exact reason you stated at the end of this review. I currently have a 2022 Pikes Peak which is an amazing bike as you know having reviewed it as well. It is the ultimate long distance, well handling, comfortable bike IMO. My current 2nd bike is a 2016 Xdiavel S, albeit a great motorcycle it's just not the polar opposite of the Pikes Peak compared to the RS. The RS will be the nice weather, mostly back twisty road, occasional track day bike. Obviously the Xdiavel didn't fit the bill for that purpose. I'm picking up my RS this Sunday and looking forward to my own take on the bike. BTW, I asked the dealer about the neutral issue as you and others have reported, the dealer looked at me as if it was the first time he ever heard of this! One other comment. You mentioned the riding position is a little on the aggressive side; however, watching you in the video it appears your almost vertical with very minimal back angle. I did own a Streetfighter V4S prior to the PIkes Peak. Did you find the seating position on the Streetfighter similar to the RS or more aggressive?
Good review, I would recommend you try a 2022 BMW S1000R SPORT, I bought mine in June 2021 and have now covered 2,300 miles. It has everything which you advise the Triumph RS SPEED TRIPLE HAS but delivers it better it has a 6.5 TFT screen which is far easier to use than the Triumph and has more information. The bike is set up like the Triumph for a sportier ride as you are encouraged to have a slight lean forward towards the flat bars whilst offering a slightly more open riding triangle (seat you move on back to front and lean off) which alongside the cruise control, heated grips, up/ down shifter, hill hold assist, self cancelling indicators and 80% of 111 Nm/ 86 ft/lb torque coming in from 3,000 makes (165 bhp at 11,000 revs) the bike suitable for commuting/ city riding, longer journeys and as you would put it canyon carving (I live in the UK). I have mine in racing red with red stripe on the wheels and choose to add the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System all backed up by a 3 yr Warranty from BMW and an excellent dealer network. I am constantly attracting positive comments from passersby which is nice to hear others appreciate your bike but even if that did not happen the smile I get before, during and after riding my bike, the pops and crackles that happen when in Dynamic Pro mode (there are 4 riding modes Pro being customisable to your personal needs) just makes me giggle. I am very pleased I got mine and I believe you and many others who enjoy motorcycling will likewise enjoy one as well. Give it a try, I look forward to your opinion on a BMW S1000R Sport.
Sure but then it is about the look & design … and it is becoming very personal as unfortunatly I find for example the front light of the BMW not nice which is a deal breaker for me even if certainly a great bike ! And some may hate the Triumph design… Again down to personal taste 😉
@@bigmathrogers8657 Thank you for your thoughts on what I wrote. I agree choosing a bike is not just how much power it has, whether it has a quick shifter, heated grips, cruise control or how long the warranty is (on a new bike) etc. it is in my opinion very much on how the bike makes you feel both on and off it. Looks, sound, feel will then come into how as an individual you decide which one is for you. I very much like the new Triumph Speed Triple RS - with both it's looks and triple sound but when considering the overall package for me I choose the BMW S1000R sport which for you for valid reasons is not for you. If you or anyone else gets a bike which makes you or them feel the way I feel riding my bike then I know you and they will be very very happy..
This post was brought to you by a representative of BMW marketing department under the guise of some random guy pretending to be someone with no affiliation to the company! Yes, no ? 🤔
@@Richcanvas Hi Richard, I am pleased to say that I am not in any way a representative of BMW but merely someone who enjoys motorcycling and with my limited knowledge and experience has simply conveyed my thoughts of my motorbike which I have paid for out my own money. I very much like my bike, how it makes me feel and what it offers to me and what it still can offer to me as my needs change and I broaden my motorcycle experience. Like you and many others we all have our own opinions which I value as we are all individuals who have each had different experiences. Happy New Year to you and everyone else, Stay safe and enjoy motorcycling.
@@carllewis1691 You are 100% hit the nail on the head , I’ve had the S1000 r sport and now I own the Speed triple Rs , I’ll put it this way.. I absolutely love the Triumph but the bmw is a better bike : at everything but the Triumph delivers it in a better way not from an engineering point of view it’s just more fun , it’s got more soul than the Bmw !!
It takes years to master finding neutral on all kinds of bikes. Every bike has its own way it wants you to find neutral. This is no joke. I been riding since 1981. I'm only 46. That's 42 years of experience. Shovelheads like to be found in neutral right before you come to a stop. Hunting Harleys taught me that one.
I'm not sure if it's by design, but my Trident will only go into neutral if the clutch is all the way back to the bars. It does mean I have never had a single false neutral, but is annoying at traffic lights,
The gears are straight cut, in the first couple of thousand miles its going to be a little like that but once they are worn in its fine. So yes. By design. Your clutch lever situation is odd as the clutch should be fully disengaged well before you are that far back. I mean unless you have set it up like that. That doesnt sound ideal though as you are probably going to put unecessary wear on the clutch and how do you know that its completely disengaged before it bottoms out? I normally have my clutch lever quite far back but even that is fully disengaged well before it hits the bars.
A perfect bike. Not THE only bike. More than one bike out there can't be a perfect bike? He's just saying it does all things well, all around complete bike. Always an internet shit head lurking that can't keep his opinion to himself
I really love this bike, mine is waiting for me at the dealership to spring🙂 Have vitpilen 401 as a winter bike, so this is going to be my late april to late oktober bike 😎 Im not taking this bike on salty roads 🤢 I will have the dealership adjust the suspension a bit softer before i pick it up👌
Over time motorcycles are becoming like cars, with so many cameras, monitors and self-driving aids that the driver requires diminishing skill and situational awareness to operate them
Yes, it's becoming a thing. I have never ridden a bike with driver aids, but then my last triumph at 131HP was a lot and now for a middleweight bike that is considered low, make that a liter and that becomes sad. In a country that does not force you to get experience on smaller bikes first, I am not sure a company can afford to sell something intermediate or above to someone without. As long as it can be defeated.
I only paid 15 grand out the door for mine and I like that on all the rider modes you can customize them and it's not like they give you a million different ways to customize them they give you just enough to make it simple to use and still get what you want out of it plus the fact you can turn traction control wheelie control off and just let that bike go oh man
Just bought one was scared of it because issues people had.Not 1 issue so far shifts perfect not one problem finding neutral. LOVE this bike so far.
Same here, neutral is not hard to find at all, I think people are used to a heavier response from the shift lever and push it too hard, but having owned a Triumph previously I have had no issues.
Wait till the gear shift input shaft breaks off the box, 13,000km mine broke clean off. I know of a mechanic at a KTM dealer that had his do the same, right at the circlip groove.
Mines is definitely hard even with the softest touch 2019 speed
Had this bike for a few days. Had no issue with finding neutral. Cable clutches need to have the free play properly adjusted. If you find it hard to get into neutral, I’m pretty sure you didn’t take care to check the free play or most likely you didn’t know it’s a factor.
Well said 👍
Yeah the cable needs to been tighter.. but not too tight or it will be pulling the clutch in which is bad news!
PLEASE make more Speed Triple content! REALLY thinking this may be my next bike but I have about 5-6 more months of saving so I’ll be living vicariously through videos like these!
I have had my 1200RS since May. I believe I got the first one in North FL. As long as you have a few years of riding experience, you'll love this bike. It is pretty powerful, the handling and braking are second to none and the riding position is very comfortable. Finding neutral at first was a witch, but has cleared up nicely after a couple of thousand miles. Like the video says, this bike will make you feel very confident after only a few weeks of riding.
@@scottsspeedtriplechannel nice! I have a few years on a POWERFUL Harley shredding the Ozarks but I know braking and power will be a whole new beast but that’s the fun to me. “Taming a beast”. I love my Harley but something more refined is what I want next I believe. Something I don’t have to put a quart of oil in a month.
Hey fella, read my comments above my friend, I've had mine nearly 9 months....awesome machine.
I love this bike I'm going to start recording me ripping it in the canyon and post on here cuz no one is really ripping this bike on you tube they are mainly riding around town and shit and let me tell you this bike loves the twisties
@@scottsspeedtriplechannel been riding 45 years , I've had them all . Speed triple never fails to put a smile on my face , favorite bike ever . '11 had to sell , on a '15 now
I don't understand why going into neutral is an issue, the only time i put my bikes in neutral is on start up which is dumb easy or if i'm lubing my chain. The bike goes into neutral pretty easy as long as the clutch is fully engaged, if i was running though the gears the last thing i would want is it going easy into neutral.
You know chase like to complain
Nice to hit neutral at stop lights to stretch.
I was one of the first to get a 1200RS in the UK. I've had many big bikes and like to ride them hard. Make no mistake this is the best handling hypernaked motorcycle you can buy today. My only regret is that triumph do not yet offer the semi active suspension they are installing on the new RR, as i would have paid the extra cash for it. My only two issues with the bike are first and foremost, it is an absolute proper pain in the ass to get into neutral and secondly I wished that Triumph had given us just 1 extra litre capacity for petrol as it's only 15.5 litres, however that seems to be the way all manufacturers are going unless you buy a touring bike. Other than that, believe you and me after spending nearly nine months with the RS it is utterly awesome and totally unflappable. It makes you feel like your a riding god, but what else did anyone expect....triumph don't make crap handling bikes ;-D
The neutral thing, I'm used to that with Ducati. If are at the headligt try to roll the bike forward just a littel bit. A few inch/centimeter will due. And you will preobably fin it.
What range to a tank full of fuel?
I m surprised by the amount of comments about finding neutral. Interestingly I owned a 2011 speed triple and I had the same issue. BUT this was only a thing for me because I needed to have it in neutral in order to get my garage opener out of my jacket pocket. What i m noticing is so many people are used to getting into neutral at red lights. In my opinion this is a bad / amateur thing to do . I was taught to have it in first gear, clutch pulled in , and only one foot down, that way you are ready to take off quickly if necessary. Am I the only one thinking this way ?
I couldn't imagine going into neutral on any public road at a stop. Only time I do it is if I need to fix something at a light. Heck, I have an amazon keychain garage door remote so I just push it with my throttle hand as I am pulling in. That said, I usually have to take a few attempts finding neutral on my Striple. It's fine, neutral isn't ever really needed.
zero issues finding n on my '11 or '15 ... buy new boots mabe ?
Nope, you're right.
What a bike! Supernakeds are incredible! I was a bit disappointed with the bmw but once i can get enough money i will trade my er6n (which i love) for either this bike or a mt10! And if i get lucky with my investments i will even consider a streetfighter v4!
The RS model you're on is $18.5k off the website, not $21k. You can get them for $18.3k at some dealers
You're thinking of the new Speed Triple RR that just came out, priced at $20,950
Great video otherwise though 🤘 loved the Speed Triple series.
Would love to see you spend some time with the new Tiger 1200!!
Triumph only makes perfect bikes, fully reliable absolutely perfect in all aspects. Japanese bikes are nonsense when compared to Triumphs.
Finding neutral is also very hard on my RSV4, a technique I learned is to not fully pull in the clutch, and lightly tap the gear into neutral.
Your poor gearbox and clutch
@@briumphbimbles how is is bad for the gearbox and clutch? You’re slipping it out of gear into neutral, not the other way around.
@@motorjack141 Do you know how a motorcyles transmission works?
@@briumphbimbles humor me, which part of what I said damages ang part of the transmission or clutch?
@@motorjack141 Sigh, ok.
When you dont fully disengage the clutch the clutch disk, pressure plate and flywheel dont fully separate ... which cases it to slip ... that causes friction and wear which is eaxctly why you dont ride a clutch.
Same thing here.
Not disengaging the clutch also adds unecessary wear to the syncronisers.
There is no reason to do it. New transmissions have a break in period where finding neutral might be tricky but with propper use for multiple reasons they tend to get easier in not much time at all.
What wont help is not haivng an iota of mechanical sympathy,
I am going to get a 2023 model in December or January. I currently have a Speed Triple 1050. It is a 2014 model and I just had it serviced, so it will go through the summer riding season one final time with me. However, I really want a 1200 RS! I am tempted to get the orange one, but I don't know yet.
Orange looks mean🤙🔥🔥
I'm between this or MT10sp, both almost at the same price
Man the Speedy 1200 is a truly stunning bike. I'm not sure the RR version is worth the extra £3k but both the RS and RR are amazing bikes. That RR in white is lovely but like I said that's a lot of extra money for a bikini fairing unless you'll make the most of the trick suspension.
So yeah, my money would be the RS in black and red.
You’re basically paying for the active suspension. My thing is I don’t even want it, I just hate the look of the front wing fairings and the RR has much better lines
@@monkmoto1887 I disagree. Just remove the front wing fairings and put the "standard" fairing on.
Then it looks in my opinion better than the RR. Which is a great looking bike.
But yeah its mostly the price of bit of carbon fibre and active suspension ... and the lower production numbers.
All of which makes the extra cost not unreasonable.
So after two days of ownership here’s my two cents on some of your comments on the RS Chase. First I agree, the seating position for a naked bike is slightly on the aggressive side. I’ve decided to purchase some 30mm bar risers which should put me right about where I want to be. Suspension - Albeit set out of the box on the firm side, I find this suspension to be very compliant and only one step lower than the ECS Ohlins on the V4S I owned. Clutch Lever - mine hardly vibrates at all! Finally the neutral topic - I am NOT seeing any of the neutral issues you report and my bike only has 120 miles. It does need a more delicate touch of the foot than most motorcycles; however, it only took me about 40 miles to acclimate to it. I do NOT need to shift up to 2nd down to 1st over and over to find neutral as you describe. I think you’re doing this bike a disservice by scaring folks into not purchasing it due to your reported neutral issue. Maybe you demoed a lemon or I purchased a diamond in the rough 😆
@Chaseontwowheels being a MT10 owner, how would you compare the '22 SP vs the '22 Triple RS? I'm stuck with the decision as I love the MT with the electronic Ohlins, but at almost the same price the RS has angle sensitive traction and ABS control, is 16kg lighter and much better fuel enconomy.
OC, I'm so tempted 🤗 I had a street triple for a little while, very nice bike. I just love BMW's but this bike and have been on the r1250r and the r9t. I would love to test ride this bike. Kind of reminds me of the S1000r. Thank you for your honest review.
Can you compare the speed triple to the super duke r?!
You called it a street triple in the intro graphic at around 40 seconds, just sayin
I bought a 2021 street triple R in February. I came from a 05' Roadking. I love my street triple. It is the most fun I've had in years. My only concern is the seat. I can ride comfortably for maybe 3 hours before I really need to stop and give my butt a rest. I am not experiencing the shifting into neutral problem on mine however.. I suggest if you want to save a few thousand dollars just go with the R. I also like having the analog tachometer. The R is a very good choice, so much fun!
How do you manage 3 hours without running out of fuel ?
@@MrMikeglI wonder that too 😂
I've had a 2007 Speed Triple for years. I picked it up after my CBR 1000rr was stolen out of my parking garage. I've always thought that if the Speed Triple had 20-30 more horsepower it would be the perfect bike and the new model has that. It has one of the best sounding engines I have heard on a bike. I've been tempted to pick up the new model but haven't had the chance to yet. When the time comes I think I am going to have to get one.
I test rode the rs today ...definitely an awesome bike but I jumped off it and ran back to my street triple rs with joy . Yes more grunt , great brakes , maybe great handling for a big bike but the front just felt soooo much less agile , the display was great , lots of amazing details but overall , for me , not a better bike , I guess ( for me ) bigger is not better.
I test road a 2022 also. I noticed the same feel compared to the 765 too!
I am just getting to know it but my first thoughts are the same. Rode a street 765rs for 3 years and it was perfect.
The speed (which I have had for under 2 months) is warming on me but time will tell if it has stepped just outside of that butter zone that the street lives in.
yep - i went from a ST3 to the Speed Triple (2019) looking for more grunt and found that it was a far less engaging ride (just stay in 3rd all day) and lost that telepathic flickability I loved in the canyons - more like riding a bull. But man what an engine and chassis. Just begged to be ridden in the triple digit range - pun intended ! In the end I traded it in after a year. Just too much for a commuter, not a great canyon carver, really just perfect for those long open curvy highways. I miss it though.
Neutral problems, couldn't be me. Be a man. Why would you want a false neutral shift. I'd rather it be difficult to get into N
First comment on Chase’s new video? Hell yeah!!😂
Nice bud m8
Mine is hard to find neutral, takes a real knack. Id be more concerned with the gear shift input shaft sticking out a full 8 x diameter, mine broke clean off the box at 13,000km. I know of a bike mechanic that had his RS do the exact same thing.
My service manager said yes it's common for these like it's no issue.
You should never ride any bike the same as the other until you know the bike. It's ignorant to say the riding aides on the triple hinder you as a rider on another bike. Be responsible and respect of the bike, no matter what it is.
For most of us, honestly the Trident and Street R are enough we would barely touch 50%-70% of the power 👍😎
Am I the only one that notices that @0:42 the graphic says that it's a Street triple, but it is a Speed triple. Definitely different bikes.
The only thing that keeps me from buying this bike 10,000 Miles valve intervals that's ridiculous.
You keep confusing the words NAKED and STANDARD. You don't understand what they mean!
I bought my 22 in November. I loved the way it looked and the specs sounded great. It’s the only bike I have bought with out test riding. Thankfully I do love the bike. Lol
Almost 2000 miles on mine already (I have 2 other bikes taking my time too) and I absolutely love it. Added heated grips, flyscreen, and the tank bag. I tried the BMW, Ducati, Aprilia, Ktm. The triumph was most comfortable by far. Lots of comments about stiff suspension and neutral. They are actually sprung too soft and most people are bottoming out... and getting to neutral is not an issue for me. Who the hell is constantly trying to find neutral lmao??! Mine specifically goes in with a little effort. If the SF4 had cruise I might have went that way just because I like the looks better but man the Triumph fits so much better and my middle aged body needs that cruise button!
That’s a good point “ I can’t find neutral “…. Well put it in 1st and enjoy ☺️!! 😂😂😂😂🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
In Houston traffic, every red light.
S1000r are more easy too drive, but speed triple are faster and more raw🤙🔥🔥✊
Have you had any issues with it at all? I heard the 21s had some issues with oil leaking and an exhaust bracket problem. Jw, cuz I'm looking to pick one up.
@@beapackersfan No issues with my 22
I just do not like the headlights at all…I will purchase this bike when there’s a quality aftermarket single round headlight available…
Just bought my first bike with ABS after 35 years of riding. A 14 Street Triple R. My other bike is a 09' Comcours 14 non-ABS. My Triumph is definitely better for warm weather but I will take it out if the temps are in the 50's. The Kawasaki can be out in all weather. The Triumph is a great second bike in my opinion. Nice review.
You nailed it. Your reviews on this Motorcycle are Spot on
OC: Fantastic bike. Yes, the perfect "summer" bike. I think it's the perfect bike period.
Waiting for these to hit the used market around $15k. I still won't buy one cause I'm broke, but this bike would be UNBELIEVABLE value at that price point.
I think the 17+ Aprilia Tuono is a lot more bike for your money in this bracket-bought mine for 11k with under 10,000 miles, an exhaust and zero damage. 175+ hp, incredibly comfortable, more stylish (to me), proven powertrain, amazing sound, TFT dash, modern electronics…its the best bike I’ve ever owned.
@@SaleenDriva But then you would own a Tuono.
The more time on the better you can get in N...but sure as hell don't want to go into N while cruising. So quit overstating. Silly as sheeat imo.
Seating position isn't NAKED, it's STANDARD, but aggressive.
I like all of Triumph's line up by their look...
I hope they give you the Speed Triple RR after you take the RS back.
How in the world I mean SERIOUSLY How do otherwise wonderful engineers NOT accomplish something as simple as an easy nuetral selection??? I agree that is a deal killer unless they will knock off SERIOUS money off the top! The other unforgivable is apparently not providing a simple mounting option for a NICE windscreen for touring! Ya know? I know it is not marketed AS a "sports tourer" but when I bike has the basic ingredients WHY the heck not at least TRY to accomodate that part of the market! For a guy like me that would really love to not have to have TWO bikes to do both canyon carving AND day long touring runs in comfort! I also suspect they have needless screwed the pooch on power delivery! If Yamaha's little 890 triple can have a wonderful wide power band starting down low then sure seems like a 1200 triple could do basically the same thing only mega! Sheesh its like Triumph so badly wants to build full on track bike but then they refuse to put a full fairing on one! Yes they put a cafe fairing on this bike but who is buying THAT instead of a Pannigale or Blade or Ninja etc? Someone in charge of Triumph marketing has their head in a dark stinky place Im afraid Its almost like someone wants to comit sabotage or something in key corporate areas
Do you own one? If so, try learning how to shift the bike properly. I own one, I have no problem getting into neutral.
If you had to choose: MT10 sp or the Speed?
so glad that this bike is not for me. Love it much that I need to pass it.
It’s nice but I think a Tuono v4 would be better
So this bike or the Tuono Factory or KTM Super Duke 1290? Thanks!
I just notice one it's street and the other speed triple wtf hahaha
If you’re complaining this much about finding neutral, I think you’re using it too much.
FYI, I auto-liked without watching the video, cause life is busy, but we still like watching your videos for low-key video ideas. Lol
Triumph has a recall that fixes the Neutral issue.
You don’t like the shifter not finding neutral but there’s definitely a bright side because it won’t miss-shift. You can be confident that when you’re getting on it with all the beans, you won’t feel like a putz reving the crap out of the engine while not going anywhere.
I fk’n hate that.
KUDOS to Triumph for designing the speed triple to just go into second like it should.
I love that !!!
I’d buy that bike just for that reason.
1st, 2nd,1st,2nd, Neutral!!!😂😂😂!!
I doubt this is anybody’s first bike.
Another day of teaching Chase how to speak: "Borrow". They loaned it to you. You. borrowed it from them.
Surely take it to your dealership and tell them about how hard it is to get into neutral. I'm sure they would fix it. It they don't ring up Triumph UK and they will help you.
Can you make a list of your top 7 naked bike according to what you will buy first... Regardless of the price
Plizplizpliz 😊😊😊
sitting on ohlins suspension for a month and you didnt even mess with the clickers.......make such a difference especially with ohlins......suspension is everything and will completley transform a bike
One of the coolest machines out there. Butterface. Swap those bug eyes for a 7” Motodemic adaptive headlight and “Voila”.
Hey man I’m in Georgia too and been watching your channel a while. When are we gonna link and hit the mountains? I’m on a Tuono V4 1100 😬
The Nutral thing will get better with use, it's quite common on triumph bikes, the box needs to bed in, 5k usually does the trick, you will find it gets better and better until you no longer have an issue.
Great video. I've been off two wheels for 2 years now, sold last FZ09 to pay off a student load. Now am cash-happy and deciding what to do this spring. Local dealer has a demo version of this for $15,499, with 4K miles. Tempting.
Finding Neutral on the 1050 generation was just as hard... you'd either spit out either side of it or simply would not shift down...
"make sure to ride a more manual bike first".... haha, I'm on a Z currently. The most technology we have is ABS and a fuel gauge haha.
For the owners of this bikes: Any major issues ? is this a better bike or a 2024 765 RS?
I own one (it's the third Speedy I've owned). I've had no issues. IT IS NOT a sport touring bike, a cruiser, or an adventure bike so don't expect it to ride like one. It's scary fast. The brakes, chassis, and suspension are fantastic. Speed Triple vs Street Triple, pick your poison. One is fast and brutish, one is fast an nimble...Both are great.
@@eb-pe8xg thanks. I picked up a bmw s1000rr. But this naked was always in my list.
Nice review! So, I'm purchasing the RS for the exact reason you stated at the end of this review. I currently have a 2022 Pikes Peak which is an amazing bike as you know having reviewed it as well. It is the ultimate long distance, well handling, comfortable bike IMO. My current 2nd bike is a 2016 Xdiavel S, albeit a great motorcycle it's just not the polar opposite of the Pikes Peak compared to the RS. The RS will be the nice weather, mostly back twisty road, occasional track day bike. Obviously the Xdiavel didn't fit the bill for that purpose. I'm picking up my RS this Sunday and looking forward to my own take on the bike.
BTW, I asked the dealer about the neutral issue as you and others have reported, the dealer looked at me as if it was the first time he ever heard of this!
One other comment. You mentioned the riding position is a little on the aggressive side; however, watching you in the video it appears your almost vertical with very minimal back angle. I did own a Streetfighter V4S prior to the PIkes Peak. Did you find the seating position on the Streetfighter similar to the RS or more aggressive?
Try changing to neutral whilst still slowing to a complete stop.. its should slick in no probs. This sounds like an old bike proble from the 80's
Good review, I would recommend you try a 2022 BMW S1000R SPORT, I bought mine in June 2021 and have now covered 2,300 miles. It has everything which you advise the Triumph RS SPEED TRIPLE HAS but delivers it better it has a 6.5 TFT screen which is far easier to use than the Triumph and has more information. The bike is set up like the Triumph for a sportier ride as you are encouraged to have a slight lean forward towards the flat bars whilst offering a slightly more open riding triangle (seat you move on back to front and lean off) which alongside the cruise control, heated grips, up/ down shifter, hill hold assist, self cancelling indicators and 80% of 111 Nm/ 86 ft/lb torque coming in from 3,000 makes (165 bhp at 11,000 revs) the bike suitable for commuting/ city riding, longer journeys and as you would put it canyon carving (I live in the UK). I have mine in racing red with red stripe on the wheels and choose to add the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System all backed up by a 3 yr Warranty from BMW and an excellent dealer network. I am constantly attracting positive comments from passersby which is nice to hear others appreciate your bike but even if that did not happen the smile I get before, during and after riding my bike, the pops and crackles that happen when in Dynamic Pro mode (there are 4 riding modes Pro being customisable to your personal needs) just makes me giggle. I am very pleased I got mine and I believe you and many others who enjoy motorcycling will likewise enjoy one as well. Give it a try, I look forward to your opinion on a BMW S1000R Sport.
Sure but then it is about the look & design … and it is becoming very personal as unfortunatly I find for example the front light of the BMW not nice which is a deal breaker for me even if certainly a great bike ! And some may hate the Triumph design… Again down to personal taste 😉
@@bigmathrogers8657 Thank you for your thoughts on what I wrote. I agree choosing a bike is not just how much power it has, whether it has a quick shifter, heated grips, cruise control or how long the warranty is (on a new bike) etc. it is in my opinion very much on how the bike makes you feel both on and off it. Looks, sound, feel will then come into how as an individual you decide which one is for you. I very much like the new Triumph Speed Triple RS - with both it's looks and triple sound but when considering the overall package for me I choose the BMW S1000R sport which for you for valid reasons is not for you. If you or anyone else gets a bike which makes you or them feel the way I feel riding my bike then I know you and they will be very very happy..
This post was brought to you by a representative of BMW marketing department under the guise of some random guy pretending to be someone with no affiliation to the company! Yes, no ? 🤔
@@Richcanvas Hi Richard, I am pleased to say that I am not in any way a representative of BMW but merely someone who enjoys motorcycling and with my limited knowledge and experience has simply conveyed my thoughts of my motorbike which I have paid for out my own money. I very much like my bike, how it makes me feel and what it offers to me and what it still can offer to me as my needs change and I broaden my motorcycle experience. Like you and many others we all have our own opinions which I value as we are all individuals who have each had different experiences. Happy New Year to you and everyone else, Stay safe and enjoy motorcycling.
@@carllewis1691 You are 100% hit the nail on the head , I’ve had the S1000 r sport and now I own the Speed triple Rs , I’ll put it this way.. I absolutely love the Triumph but the bmw is a better bike : at everything but the Triumph delivers it in a better way not from an engineering point of view it’s just more fun , it’s got more soul than the Bmw !!
didn't you swap your r6 for a s3 with a friend years and years ago ? I was on an '11 then and had to sell it 😥 . on a '15 now . love it !!
Ride a dirt bike, than go to a street triple.. bout the most ‘manual’ bike you can start on.
Sold my super duke 990 a few years ago after I moved to the city. Planning to get another bike later this year. Pretty sure this will be the one.
cruise control?
Any 2022 Kawasaki ZX 10R and 2022 GSXR 1000 reviews in the works??
You still located in Georgia I’ve noticed a lot of the mountain motor sports you’ve been at look tooooo familiar 😂 we need to ride tho one day man
I can never buy it cause that ugly headlight, what engineer thinks that looks good?
I would love to see you try a new KTM RC 390 it has a lot of rider aids and i am really impressed with it (2022 model)
Just bought a 2022 multi v4s…. Now to wait 3 months for it to come in from Europe
Gentle on the gear shift and neutral is easy to find, clutch pulled right in.
Speed Triple RS or BMW S1000rr if money was no issue???
How do you record your friends voice audio when riding? While still recording yours?
My street triple rs is super easy to find neutral, guess I’ll have to try this
Z900, mt09, or speed triple rs if price wasn't a factor???
It's easy to get in the neutral going from second to neutral rather than first into neutral
It takes years to master finding neutral on all kinds of bikes. Every bike has its own way it wants you to find neutral. This is no joke. I been riding since 1981. I'm only 46. That's 42 years of experience. Shovelheads like to be found in neutral right before you come to a stop. Hunting Harleys taught me that one.
Recall fixes the issue on the RS
S1000r are more easy too drive and not so brutal fast🤙🥳
Cool bike. OC
I'm not sure if it's by design, but my Trident will only go into neutral if the clutch is all the way back to the bars. It does mean I have never had a single false neutral, but is annoying at traffic lights,
The gears are straight cut, in the first couple of thousand miles its going to be a little like that but once they are worn in its fine. So yes. By design.
Your clutch lever situation is odd as the clutch should be fully disengaged well before you are that far back. I mean unless you have set it up like that.
That doesnt sound ideal though as you are probably going to put unecessary wear on the clutch and how do you know that its completely disengaged before it bottoms out?
I normally have my clutch lever quite far back but even that is fully disengaged well before it hits the bars.
Sold
Definitely has to come down to either this thing or a Tuono!
I can stop looking at that clutch lever wobbling…5:20
nice movie enjoyed watching I agree
Its easy to find neutral. Just needs a gentle love tap.
Why i would get this bike instead of an zh2?
OC: I thought the Yamaha MT-09 SP, or was it the Ducati StreetFighter V2 was the perfect bike....or does this make 3 perfect bikes?
I know right, every bike he rides in the end it gets the title 'perfect bike' from this channel.
A perfect bike. Not THE only bike. More than one bike out there can't be a perfect bike? He's just saying it does all things well, all around complete bike. Always an internet shit head lurking that can't keep his opinion to himself
Glad to see that you admit that about yourself.
I really love this bike, mine is waiting for me at the dealership to spring🙂
Have vitpilen 401 as a winter bike, so this is going to be my late april to late oktober bike 😎
Im not taking this bike on salty roads 🤢
I will have the dealership adjust the suspension a bit softer before i pick it up👌
Chase wher is the BMW 1000RR 2020 or the yamaha r1 2021
Over time motorcycles are becoming like cars, with so many cameras, monitors and self-driving aids that the driver requires diminishing skill and situational awareness to operate them
Yes, it's becoming a thing. I have never ridden a bike with driver aids, but then my last triumph at 131HP was a lot and now for a middleweight bike that is considered low, make that a liter and that becomes sad. In a country that does not force you to get experience on smaller bikes first, I am not sure a company can afford to sell something intermediate or above to someone without. As long as it can be defeated.
Balls bike. The bug bike. The BEAN BIKE.
Which city is that?. I just love seeing the city
hey bro what about review maxi scoots ?
Love when the traction can be put down 😂😝
Chase: makes a 20+ video. Also chase: keeps answering the question of the video within the first minute 😂
I only paid 15 grand out the door for mine and I like that on all the rider modes you can customize them and it's not like they give you a million different ways to customize them they give you just enough to make it simple to use and still get what you want out of it plus the fact you can turn traction control wheelie control off and just let that bike go oh man
You got a 2022 speed triple rs out the door for 15k usd? What state?
@@matthew8031 California