I'm all for spirited driving and touge running but keep it safe. Don't take all those unnecessary risks like crossing the centre line, especially right before blind corners. Have fun but be mindful of others. You're not alone on the road.
Driven both (and owning one of them), the A45S definitely is way more fun and playful than the Model 3. However, the handling of the Model 3 is not bad and its significantly cheaper to maintain, which is why i bought it.
This Comment Section is the Reason the Car Community is in such shambles, It's always "This Mercedes, This BMW, This Audi, This Honda or This Tesla" It's not the car, It's the Driver If you Are Happy with your Tesla, Good for you If you Are Happy with your Mercedes, Good for you If you Are Happy with your Honda Civic, Good for you People saying "Oooooh this Car is faster, This car Accelerates Faster" That's only Half of the Formula. The Driver Is much more important than The Car, You can gap a Mustang GT With 500Hp with your 350HP Honda Civic, If you can drive Your Honda But the Guy Can't Drive his Mustang. Just Accept That people Have different tastes in cars, and Live with it. Stay Mad Haters.
I get what you're saying but don't you try and tell me a good driver can beat a Bugatti in a model T. Although the extreme of "can't drive his car" would be hitting a tree so actually maybe you're right. Either way if you're not racing there's no point in bragging or taking sides, you just drive what you like or can afford.
Big fan of your channel but this needs some further commenting. Indeed it was illegal, that easily happens, but it was also dangerous and that’s not so good for our community of drivers. Just like racing or TF on the ring, there are rules of the road, but also some unwritten rules for ’advanced’ or ’performance’ driving on the road to keep things safe and enjoyable in the long run. Here are mine (writing the unwritten ;) ) : 1) Your driving history/resumé doesn’t matter, you’re never a better driver than in the moment, and drivers make mistakes. Good to keep in mind. 2) Drive 100% on visual confirmation that the road is free and will remain free from forseeable obstacles (hidden side roads, crests and dips) without preconceptions. Preconceptions are: usually nobody is behind this bend, the road is there, I know this road (before… ), I’m on a priority road so others should stop, etc. No guessing, no assumptions, only 100% visual confirmation. 2b) Always drive a public road like it's the first time you drive it 3) Slow down immediately if you can’t see the road is free. Don't take the risk! Logical consequence of rule 2 but still stating it. Good opportunity to test braking/grip. 4) … because if there is an obstacle, you must be able to avoid it and if that isn’t possible, stop completely. Which is the reason for nr. 2) 5) Slow down when there are houses nearby. People live and move there. Out of respect, safety but also when they complain, it can be negative for our driving freedoms. 6) Slow down for oncoming traffic. We easily rely they will stay in their lane. But you can’t be sure as they aren’t part of our ’fun’ and can do erratic things (phones, nice view etc) and if things go bad, head on collisions become so much worse with more speed. I’ve had normal drivers suddenly in my lane 3x in 23 yrs of driving. Not very often but it happens… (this vid ok but still stating it) 6b) Avoid really silly speeds, it's acceleration and bends that are fun 7) Consider that someone not following these rules may come from the other direction. Keep that in mind in the 100% visual…(this is not WRC) 1:091:412:303:234:398:05 are not so good… didn’t mind the rest ;) After seeing this vid, my answer is... What would a m340i do? (5 seat 4wd also) Drive safe and... enjoy where possible!
The Tesla understeers more into corners with front tyres squealing and the Mercedes oversteers with the rear swinging out. AMG is quicker from corner to corner as on some long stretches it builds up quite some distance from the Model 3. Very dangerous racing and a bit reckless on a narrow mountain road
i understand this... but very dangerous. For other traffic ahead. one day we will hear the news on tv, spiegel tv or bild. 2 racers became one, with a tree.
@@AlejandroUribe89 I love leading mostly, almost had an incident where a friend of mine had his brakes lock bad and I almost flew off the road to avoid hitting him. I also love seeing the road ahead so I know what's coming...
@@topdoge2632 well if you said that because you though i like the tesla better then nah... the tesla is actually shit compared to the mercedes amg, now about being on the lead is easier... its true being on the lead is easier unless you are a bad driver that always need to look at the car on the front to guide you also if you are ahead you have 2 options 1st is to leave the chaser behind and 2nd is to block the overtaking lanes. maybe when it comes to guys that is not on racing, only few can see the value of being on the lead but that doesn't mean being the chaser is better Sorry for the lenthy reply, it seems that alot of guys disagree with me so i guess i need to explain the obvious
Imagine this biker has wife and children at home. Suddenly the family realises that was the last time the children saw their father and the wife saw her men
That AMG driver would kill himself if he was driving a real car. Amazing how the over confidence shines so bright when you've got a computer to cover your inabilities.
LOL I know of channels like Out of Spec Motoring and probably more that Beat on Tesla Model 3. They are a great platform to beat on and also make interesting Drift Missiles. Only problem they are expensive.
dsmluck stop commenting over everyone’s comments just because your shitty tesla is slower than a45s. You’re gonna say how you own a gla45 even though is the suv version of the A class and also happens to be a generation behind the one in the video. You’re probably also gonna say how you have kw coilover. Just imagine installing those in the a45 which is already better with stock suspension.
@@dsmluck i drive a Model 3 Performance, and weight is an issue on every EV. They might have instabt torque and pull incredibly off the line, but they are just heavy and not as engaging. Thats a fact. My Tesla eats tires like crazy.
@@dsmluck an A45S is 3417lbs with similar power to the SR+, my M3P is over 4000lbs. The A45S had better times at the Sachsen and Hockenheimring than the M3P, only at the Nürburgring my Tesla is faster. Don't underestimate these small AMGs.
@@dsmluck Yes more understeer is present at the limit but the limit is pretty high and %95 of drivers cant get near the limit. It also has torque vectoring and clever diff tricks to eliminate much of that understeer. The GR Yaris has the same concept and its one of the best driver cars of this generation. This is so much lighter than a M3P and that matters. Power is split 50/50 and %100 can be sent to either rear wheel not sure if thats fwd biased.
Clearly both pushing 100% of your ability and it isn't enough to control your cars at that speed. The AMG exiting corners onto the wrong side of the road clearly has no way of staying on the correct side should there be an oncoming car beccause he has entered and existed the corner too fast. If you are going to drive fast don't push yourself or the car. I's people like you that give spirited driving a bad name. I'm not one for jealously but you seriously don't deserve those cars, plenty more responsible people with far more talent should be trusted with such tools, not you.
So The Tesla lost power after about 5 minutes of hard driving and started to fallback. What an absolute joke? They are overrated. Battery technology has got a long way to go yet! They have no character either, they are too boring!
Where exactly is the drifting in the video? 1 second oversteer isn't a drift... 2 guys having fun on a pretty mediocre level, no matter the overblown description of LMP vs WRC drivers... If there was a WRC driver in the video, he must have been in the passenger seat...
I do understand that you drive a little faster that you're allowed, but if you want to go all out, get a ticket to the racetrack... Braking so hard, that you get into the oncoming traffic 🙄 multiple times, cutting blind corners... So on and so forth... Probably some overtaking on dangerous spots as well... Idc If you do it, but don't fuck it up for everyone who has a sporty car...
Have seen his other videos yet? They have a lot of knowledge on track already. In this video they wasn't even going that quick. They were just having a bit of fun sliding out. Didnt see any blind corners... they kept on the correct side of the road at all times.
M T how about minute 0:29 as well as minute 0:50 hear me up: I’m not saying he’s a bad driver, I know his other videos, and like them. He can drive! But on the streets you always have to take into account that others make mistakes as well... and I they were sliding around in an empty parking lot I would’ve said nothing;) Something else to add: he might be a good/semiprofessional. But there are a lot of young drivers out there who don’t have their car under their control like that!
Tesla driver clearly better. Also more cautious and always catching up what proves that the Tesla is the faster car. If you hobby race like this, leading is not harder. Following is harder because you react on front car much more (don't wanna bump it) than on a open track where you have plenty of space and no opposite traffic.
@@saverio3biamonte you ever talked to people that killed somebody whilst being behind the wheel? spoiler; they didnt think it was funny any more, neither did the families of the victims a fight on track without traffic is more about drivers capacity than anything else. road racing; stupid
Don’t mind the driving, but the road is fantastic, no cracks, no potholes, nice corners.... And if the road was closed to the traffic I wouldn’t mind a spin or two. Practically in any suitable car.
Often the person leading takes more skills because he/she needs to brake at the right time and look out for other cars (on public road), where as the car following can just mirror the car in front...so not that impressive in my opinion
Its called taking the bloody apex and following through the racing line!!! Dont comment what you dont know okay??? You seriously expect the cars to have full traction going 70-100% throttle while cornering while using only one lane?!?!
@@Verdeniza Bro, if you notice that I used the word open road then you should understand what I mean. I believe most of car/car racing lovers know what apex and other driving concepts and skills are, but the problem is road racing causes danger not only to the racer themselves but also to other drivers down the road. And indeed, I didn't see and drifting or power-sliding skill in the entire video. No judge at all, it's the bloody fact.
From my perspective, this was "dangerous" but also safe. Both drivers understood the potential of their cars. The Tesla driver actually wasn't too slow, you could tell he was purposely trying to give the AMG some distance just in case. The AMG is dangerously but also the driver seems to be checking for oncoming traffic. You can tell in the beginning he always gets back into the proper lane for upcoming blind corners. I'm not promoting this, I'm simply saying that this was very fun to watch and because it was done by professionals, no one was hurt in the making. This RUclipsr isn't promoting "illegal drift battles" either, he's just filming exciting content. For European drivers who drive on roads like this on a regular basis, I'm sure they understand the dangers of drifting out of corners. Obviously, us normal viewers shouldn't and probably wouldn't be doing this kind of stuff. As stated in the description, both drivers are professional drivers, so we all understand how skilled they are. But it's always nice to see and respect other people's skills.
Show me one harpin he took right pls my driving teacher would lough at me with the Lanes These guys where driving. Also in the fast lefturns. He just cant know if he might die which might be also Kind of cool
@@francis9504 He's not trying to be fast, he's trying to push the car so that it slides, anyone with any little bit of driving experience can see this. Maybe your driving teacher can teach you the difference.
@@jeantsu6850 oh anybody with a little driving experince can drift thats a Statement 🤣 props. Pls tell me the difference of try to go fast and try to Drift 😅😬 i mean i like the Video a lot thats not the point. With pushing the car you mean play with gas an steering a little bit?
@@francis9504 I'm saying that you can clearly tell he's purposely driving like that. He can clearly take the better driving line which would allow him to exit the corner at the most optimal speed, but instead in a lot of corners he's throwing the weight of the car around to get it to slide. Tesla driver recognizes this and gives him a lot of space to do this.
Well, no, not really. This is far too fast and sketchy for the road, and the constant white-line cutting / blind corner taking is irresponsible, and shows a certain level of immaturity.
I enjoy videos like this and I’m no saint as I occasionally enjoy a nice spirited ride but you guys go into corners too hot and cut into the other lane in which there are many blind corners. If there was an incoming car it will end badly. Drive safer dude.
Warched the video I cannot see any dangerous cutring corner manouvers. Yes, the drive over the lane but its always on a visible strech, where you can see far enough ahead.
1) this is Togue, not drifting. 2) not bad driving 3) need radios and spotters so you dont take out that innocent going home to their dog who will starve bc you guys didnt have spotters
Not a fan of street racing. But have to admit some nice skills drivers seem to know the road and their cars well. Also it is very nice to see they are respectful of other road users in that they are keeping in their lanes when they can't see out of corners. And when they came up onto slower car driving their direction they took their time instead of cutting him of by doing some dangerous overtake.
Nice driving from the Tesla, Mercedes fella needs to tighten up his style, coming out of every corner on the wrong side of the road on a public road is just dangerous
People please don't fight for choosing EVs or gasoline cars . We can buy them both. And all of our sons will drive EVs someday. Let's taste the roar of gasoline engines before they disappear in the future is one point, or use the EVs for saving money is the other. Also, There's formula E now. EVs can do race. chill out guys
There is no way the driver of the AMG is a WRC driver. He can hardly place the car correctly and even on his attempts to drift he fails most of the time.
? The tesla was gaining on him lmao, you act like it was 5 seconds for a45 to go onto boost LOL. Oh man you people must be gen z's, he wasn't trying catch the a45, he was keeping 4 car spaces behind in purpose LOL, you don't want to be up his ass around corners, that's dangerous asf
Looks like fun but it's irresponsible and reckless. Putting other people's live at risk by using public roads. They can go to a local race track if they want to put the pedal to metal.
Shut up, Karen! You saw the title and you clicked. If you don't want to see this kind of driving there are plenty more boring videos to watch on youtube.
You are both cutting the curvs. It’s highly dangerous. Stay at least on your side. It is also more demanding for your driving abilities.Motorbiker will also appreciate it.😌
@Car Freaknatic no weight is a bad thing, lower center of gravity is good but that doesn't mean it's the only thing that matters in cornering. in the video it shows that the tesla understeers a lot, a few more kilometers it will lose it's tire grip more and also the brakes will fade faster because it's heavier, which explains that at the end of the video the amg is extending the lead.
@Car Freaknatic lol comparing race car to street car shows that you know nothing. porsche 919 hybrid evo is faster than ID.R by a mile. race car is faster than normal street car because it weigh less. the fact that you don't know anything about weight shows that your opinion is based on fanboy riding
@@MrCarguy2 no. there is almost no road car that would take that for hours without complaining. A C63 6.2L will overheat the gearbox, the diff, the brakes and probably the engine oil. It's quite an effort and uphill.
Was the guy in the AMG trying to drift or just lousy at holding lines? I found his driving skills erratic. He could have been miles in front of Tesla if he was smoother. As for the Tesla, it's always harder to be following behind because you never know when the guy in front is on the gas. You almost have to anticipate his exact patterns in advance. Very hard to do.
I feel like the merc guy has to look out for on coming traffic, and the tesla guy behind. But tbh, the distance the Tesla guy put is a bit too much, perhaps he doesn't have as much experience on a Tesla? Because I've seen some serious drivers setting respectable numbers in a tesla. But it doesn't seem like the tesla driver is driving full throttle. It's either that or he's afraid that it might damage the battery or drivetrain even though the tesla can handle some load (not a lot tho). The uploader is a professional driver tho, so I wouldn't say he's unskilled. Edit: grammar and typo
they are water-cooled an refrigerated with a compressor if temperature still keep increasing power limitation will be applied around 50° Celsius, only happens once to me on the track after 2 laps (15min) with my other car audi s3 i start chill after one lap (8min) as the oil is already a 130°c
@@mackimations not sure, i had same behaviour, with the civic type r fk2, and the gold 8 GTI clubsport. Dont forget that mass production cars are not race cars, exept some supercars with proper oil cooling like porsches gt2, gt3 for example
@@foxy5855 That's interesting I figured that most modern production cars wouldn't have that issue despite not being race oriented machinery. I guess the more you know, thanks for the heads up. Though it does make me wonder how spec series use production cars with no change to the oil system and race for 30 minutes+ no problem. Maybe the type of oil used is the determining factor?
@@mackimations oil tend to become thinner with high temps that’s why I prefer to do a pause or chill down when it goes over 130°c specially on technical tracks, thinner oil mean lower pressure and low oil pressure means a high risk of wear or dommage in some component like rod bearings or head components, that’s why also after track session I do a oil and filter change! Even on cars with “long life” bullshit oil they say is good for 30’000km I keep doing my oil change every 10-15k km. Oil is cheap, engines aren’t ;)
That guy in the Mercedes really knows how to drive that vehicle and most importantly he knows how to treat a petrol engine car which is why he has such an advantage.
no just no. some parts of the road against the cliff with barely enough room for 2 cars to cross and you guys were doing 100+ with no visibility, you're just lucky to be alive, doesn't matter if you're hamilton or sebastien loeb, that was fucking dumb shit, not for you but whoever could have been on opposite lane. I hope someday you'll realize how juvenile that was (and considering the lack of hairs I'm sad to think you should be past those things by now)
@@MixedRealitySimRacing don't agree give me some timestamps where this happens, maybe if someone would also drive like them downhill its would be very close in maybe 2 or 3 places in the video but I think thats it. still dangerous of course but the chance of that happening is very small, they are also professional drivers.
@@MixedRealitySimRacing I get that, and if were to drive there myself I'd probably also do that instead of trying to cut corners If i'd wanna drive fast. I just don't agree with the original comment saying "they're lucky to be alive' I think this wasn't actually as dangerous as many people may think. of course you still wanna avoid any unnecessary danger. (agree them being pro drivers makes it more stupid but this does say something about their ability to handle a close call situation much better)
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 going 10-15% over the speed limit is also illegal, jaywalking is too. But this video on scale is on the extreme side. My point was that covering your speed doesn't change. Speed can be calculated from the video.
With a Ferrari 488 Pista 😳
ruclips.net/video/ilMXRGAlkHc/видео.html
Ok next step,you and Misha TEST drive RIMAC c2 on Croatia coastline road !!
Also on the great GROBNIK racetrack!
😉👍👀👽👽👽😎👌
What mods are necessary on the model 3 performance in your opinion? For touristenfahrten.
Pål Amundsen i will
Make a video about it soon 🤣
Calling this a battle is fine. Calling this a "drift" battle is a punishable offence.
I would love to see the A45 onboard. The driver must be busy at the wheel with the snappy oversteer in drift mode.
Meanwhile the Tesla throwing the whole body to the OTHER LANE 😂👏🏻
The Tesler has better control than the 45 which torque steers before a snappy oversteer.
Tesla. The 45 is very fast though.
Search @mauroamgang on Instagram, it is his profile.
I’m afraid that the drift mode wasn’t even turned on
Error 404: Drift not found
No drift. Just not gently enough on the throttle.
Tesla is hard to drift
Lol
Mercedes owner is having fun, Tesla’s looks like he’s going to the office on a late Monday morning
lol
🤣🤣🤣
You don't even know what "fun" means then...
@@kefo025 Not driving a Tesla, thats for sure. Thing is like a silent Audi.
Driving behind someone is for beginners and so easy.....
Nice handling for an Ipad
Rofl.
Hahahahaha.
SBD 😉
Lmfao
oof
In a Tesla, trailing a car like this is the only way you can enjoy some sweet engine noise! 😅
I do that all the time when i chase petrol cars on backroads, windows down and enjoy the exhaust note from the car i'm chasing 😎
The silence is annoying at first.
But then the silence becomes as fascinating as an exhaust note.
@@matthewjohnston1967 lmao stop doing drugs
@@gx455 drugs are good
@@matthewjohnston1967 stop drugging xd
I'm all for spirited driving and touge running but keep it safe. Don't take all those unnecessary risks like crossing the centre line, especially right before blind corners. Have fun but be mindful of others. You're not alone on the road.
Driven both (and owning one of them), the A45S definitely is way more fun and playful than the Model 3. However, the handling of the Model 3 is not bad and its significantly cheaper to maintain, which is why i bought it.
This Comment Section is the Reason the Car Community is in such shambles, It's always "This Mercedes, This BMW, This Audi, This Honda or This Tesla"
It's not the car, It's the Driver
If you Are Happy with your Tesla, Good for you
If you Are Happy with your Mercedes, Good for you
If you Are Happy with your Honda Civic, Good for you
People saying "Oooooh this Car is faster, This car Accelerates Faster"
That's only Half of the Formula.
The Driver Is much more important than The Car, You can gap a Mustang GT With 500Hp with your 350HP Honda Civic, If you can drive Your Honda But the Guy Can't Drive his Mustang.
Just Accept That people Have different tastes in cars, and Live with it.
Stay Mad Haters.
Finally someone reasonable in the comments of a Something vs Something video
I get what you're saying but don't you try and tell me a good driver can beat a Bugatti in a model T. Although the extreme of "can't drive his car" would be hitting a tree so actually maybe you're right. Either way if you're not racing there's no point in bragging or taking sides, you just drive what you like or can afford.
I agree with you kind sir. @@OlGregge
That ain't fucking drifting you are turning the steering wheel in the same direction as the road
Thats not drifting, thats powersliding.
Mercedes guy is having real life fun but the tesla guy is live streaming.
Stay in your lane or go to a race track.
Where was the drifting?
Tesla probably needs a down pipe in my honest opinion.
You guys ever imagined about how to kill a motocyclist behind a corner?
Africa Alp prob too stupid mate waste of oxygen these 2
Yea it's fun
not particularly concerned with 'cyclists, they are the ones who should be careful.
Big fan of your channel but this needs some further commenting. Indeed it was illegal, that easily happens, but it was also dangerous and that’s not so good for our community of drivers. Just like racing or TF on the ring, there are rules of the road, but also some unwritten rules for ’advanced’ or ’performance’ driving on the road to keep things safe and enjoyable in the long run.
Here are mine (writing the unwritten ;) ) :
1) Your driving history/resumé doesn’t matter, you’re never a better driver than in the moment, and drivers make mistakes. Good to keep in mind.
2) Drive 100% on visual confirmation that the road is free and will remain free from forseeable obstacles (hidden side roads, crests and dips) without preconceptions. Preconceptions are: usually nobody is behind this bend, the road is there, I know this road (before… ), I’m on a priority road so others should stop, etc. No guessing, no assumptions, only 100% visual confirmation.
2b) Always drive a public road like it's the first time you drive it
3) Slow down immediately if you can’t see the road is free. Don't take the risk! Logical consequence of rule 2 but still stating it. Good opportunity to test braking/grip.
4) … because if there is an obstacle, you must be able to avoid it and if that isn’t possible, stop completely. Which is the reason for nr. 2)
5) Slow down when there are houses nearby. People live and move there. Out of respect, safety but also when they complain, it can be negative for our driving freedoms.
6) Slow down for oncoming traffic. We easily rely they will stay in their lane. But you can’t be sure as they aren’t part of our ’fun’ and can do erratic things (phones, nice view etc) and if things go bad, head on collisions become so much worse with more speed. I’ve had normal drivers suddenly in my lane 3x in 23 yrs of driving. Not very often but it happens… (this vid ok but still stating it)
6b) Avoid really silly speeds, it's acceleration and bends that are fun
7) Consider that someone not following these rules may come from the other direction. Keep that in mind in the 100% visual…(this is not WRC)
1:09 1:41 2:30 3:23 4:39 8:05 are not so good… didn’t mind the rest ;)
After seeing this vid, my answer is... What would a m340i do? (5 seat 4wd also)
Drive safe and... enjoy where possible!
The Tesla understeers more into corners with front tyres squealing and the Mercedes oversteers with the rear swinging out. AMG is quicker from corner to corner as on some long stretches it builds up quite some distance from the Model 3. Very dangerous racing and a bit reckless on a narrow mountain road
You know he drives a computer because it has a post-it on the screen 😂
😅👏😅
😂😂😂🤣
It's to hide his speed
A45S looks like one of the most explosive cars on the market, thanks to that engine and the short gear ratio.
is that so?
Thank you
Confirmed : the Guy in the Tesla doesn't take as much fun as the one in the A45.
Also slower than the Amg.
It’s always much easier to follow than to lead
Yeah~but why is that though?
@@bryanlu1356 coz you can copy the car in front in short. And if someone made a mistake you can adjust your line to pass him
Those a45s really are a weapon!
Baby AMG 😂😂😂😂
@@81masomaso 421hp not a baby 😂
The fast way to kill some people good job🤝
Go on track guys so much fan in totaly safe for you and the other people
We applaud these two clowns for reckless driving
u mad?
i understand this... but very dangerous. For other traffic ahead. one day we will hear the news on tv, spiegel tv or bild. 2 racers became one, with a tree.
No there has to be Tesla in the title aswell cuz teslas are evil.
I dont understand the sticker on the dashboard ... he clearly don't exceeds 30mph
race on a public road? idiotic idea
You must be fun at parties
@@smileypwn They're not nearly good enough to deserve any "fun" or brag about that shameful display.
@@smileypwn You must be quite stupid.
Using your vacuum cleaner to catch an AMG. Never gonna happen.
I can tell you guys grew up there haha. Great control. Great handling of the tesla with all that weight and street tires.
Being a hunter is easier than being the hunted. because the hunter orients himself to the hunted.
WTF being on the lead is definitely easier
Ames Erich No.
@@AlejandroUribe89 I love leading mostly, almost had an incident where a friend of mine had his brakes lock bad and I almost flew off the road to avoid hitting him. I also love seeing the road ahead so I know what's coming...
@@ameserich No it's not.
@@topdoge2632 well if you said that because you though i like the tesla better then nah... the tesla is actually shit compared to the mercedes amg, now about being on the lead is easier... its true being on the lead is easier unless you are a bad driver that always need to look at the car on the front to guide you also if you are ahead you have 2 options 1st is to leave the chaser behind and 2nd is to block the overtaking lanes. maybe when it comes to guys that is not on racing, only few can see the value of being on the lead but that doesn't mean being the chaser is better
Sorry for the lenthy reply, it seems that alot of guys disagree with me so i guess i need to explain the obvious
Imagine a biker pedalling up the hill early in the morning to avoid traffic, ending up risking his life due to this!
Imagine this biker has wife and children at home. Suddenly the family realises that was the last time the children saw their father and the wife saw her men
@@oszi7058 Imagine being an asshole and not simply go mountain biking or use bike roads.
@@soldmycatforheroin imagine that you argument is worthless and makes no sense. Pls turn on your fucking brain
I don't wanna imagine
Kids when you’re doing this just agree on a rule that you don’t cross the centre line. Still just as fun and takes away the risk to other motorists.
Maybe you will Stop this shit, if a Motobike stucks in your windscreen
Omg. It's so extremely dangerous. Imagine a biker getting hit by these idiots.
This is how the engineers test the model 3 in the hills behind the Palo Alto office. I chased one before the model 3 was released.
Thats why separated bike roads exist. Go there for biking.
@@seankyer3040 they go similar speed that theese two bicycle
This is just stupid to do on a public road, if you can afford the cars you can afford a day in the race track.
true but i have to admit it really is more fun on those kind of roads. would be awesome if you could rent them or get them closed for a period of time
Where is the drifting? I just see clowns racing around endangering innocent people. Keep it on the track.
Teslas dropping further behind with each corner just preying for a straight
That AMG driver would kill himself if he was driving a real car. Amazing how the over confidence shines so bright when you've got a computer to cover your inabilities.
He was really pushing that Tesla. That was a great video. I don't think i've seen a youtuber drive a Tesla as hard as that.
LOL I know of channels like Out of Spec Motoring and probably more that Beat on Tesla Model 3. They are a great platform to beat on and also make interesting Drift Missiles. Only problem they are expensive.
I wouldn't have the balls to beat on my Model 3 P like this dude does. These cars eat tires like crazy.
Imagine driving a Tesla like but all your hear is mild wind noise
The Tesla driver: „Oh nice lets have some fun, it‘s 8 mins fun for a few cents“ A45 driver: „Ah shit here we go again“
Why did this video got recommended to so many non car people?
Tesla is slow in the corners because of all that weight... that A45 was pulling hard...
dsmluck stop commenting over everyone’s comments just because your shitty tesla is slower than a45s. You’re gonna say how you own a gla45 even though is the suv version of the A class and also happens to be a generation behind the one in the video. You’re probably also gonna say how you have kw coilover. Just imagine installing those in the a45 which is already better with stock suspension.
@@dsmluck i drive a Model 3 Performance, and weight is an issue on every EV. They might have instabt torque and pull incredibly off the line, but they are just heavy and not as engaging. Thats a fact. My Tesla eats tires like crazy.
@@dsmluck an A45S is 3417lbs with similar power to the SR+, my M3P is over 4000lbs. The A45S had better times at the Sachsen and Hockenheimring than the M3P, only at the Nürburgring my Tesla is faster. Don't underestimate these small AMGs.
@@dsmluck Yes more understeer is present at the limit but the limit is pretty high and %95 of drivers cant get near the limit. It also has torque vectoring and clever diff tricks to eliminate much of that understeer. The GR Yaris has the same concept and its one of the best driver cars of this generation. This is so much lighter than a M3P and that matters. Power is split 50/50 and %100 can be sent to either rear wheel not sure if thats fwd biased.
Takumi: *have fun with the mercedes guy*
The mercedes guy:
Clearly both pushing 100% of your ability and it isn't enough to control your cars at that speed. The AMG exiting corners onto the wrong side of the road clearly has no way of staying on the correct side should there be an oncoming car beccause he has entered and existed the corner too fast. If you are going to drive fast don't push yourself or the car. I's people like you that give spirited driving a bad name. I'm not one for jealously but you seriously don't deserve those cars, plenty more responsible people with far more talent should be trusted with such tools, not you.
ABS got activated at almost every corner, oversteering when re-accelerating... ""Rallye WRC" driver ahahah
The Tesla is an excellent platform to film exciting cars from 😂
Let me know when there will be drifting
So The Tesla lost power after about 5 minutes of hard driving and started to fallback. What an absolute joke? They are overrated.
Battery technology has got a long way to go yet! They have no character either, they are too boring!
Damn it’s that serious?
MAN tesla Is Dope But Fuck Electric Cars
Tesla largely dominated on handling, if it was ahead the Mercedes would have disappeared
Where exactly is the drifting in the video? 1 second oversteer isn't a drift... 2 guys having fun on a pretty mediocre level, no matter the overblown description of LMP vs WRC drivers... If there was a WRC driver in the video, he must have been in the passenger seat...
I do understand that you drive a little faster that you're allowed, but if you want to go all out, get a ticket to the racetrack... Braking so hard, that you get into the oncoming traffic 🙄 multiple times, cutting blind corners... So on and so forth... Probably some overtaking on dangerous spots as well... Idc If you do it, but don't fuck it up for everyone who has a sporty car...
Race tracks it's not the same and actually it's a little bit boring
Have seen his other videos yet? They have a lot of knowledge on track already. In this video they wasn't even going that quick. They were just having a bit of fun sliding out. Didnt see any blind corners... they kept on the correct side of the road at all times.
Enviro_400_life I know, being around doing something illegal always has a special touch, but being on a track is something different;)
M T how about minute 0:29 as well as minute 0:50 hear me up: I’m not saying he’s a bad driver, I know his other videos, and like them. He can drive! But on the streets you always have to take into account that others make mistakes as well... and I they were sliding around in an empty parking lot I would’ve said nothing;) Something else to add: he might be a good/semiprofessional. But there are a lot of young drivers out there who don’t have their car under their control like that!
Damm that a45 is quick
Tesla driver clearly better. Also more cautious and always catching up what proves that the Tesla is the faster car. If you hobby race like this, leading is not harder. Following is harder because you react on front car much more (don't wanna bump it) than on a open track where you have plenty of space and no opposite traffic.
dafuk, couldnt wait till a track day?
this kind of behaviour is exactly why fast/modified cars get so much attention from cops, thanks, great job
@@saverio3biamonte yea and 10x more chances to enter in a tree and die
@@raullk4282 that's the fun
@@saverio3biamonte Yes, and you should not forget to bring your car in the coffin.
@@saverio3biamonte you ever talked to people that killed somebody whilst being behind the wheel?
spoiler; they didnt think it was funny any more, neither did the families of the victims
a fight on track without traffic is more about drivers capacity than anything else. road racing; stupid
Don’t mind the driving, but the road is fantastic, no cracks, no potholes, nice corners.... And if the road was closed to the traffic I wouldn’t mind a spin or two. Practically in any suitable car.
Often the person leading takes more skills because he/she needs to brake at the right time and look out for other cars (on public road), where as the car following can just mirror the car in front...so not that impressive in my opinion
So true. I was looking for this comment.
This is when innocent lifes are taken away..
Not if you know what your doing
@@dankie3612🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@Dankie I am a racer myself in the undergrounds of Madrid, I understand you perfectly....
why not doing this on a race track???there are other people driving around!!!!🤷🏻♂️👋🏻
true
Because they're stupid c**ts
This is super dangerous
Cutting line while driving on the open road shows how awful their driving skills are. BTW, I didn't see any drifting though.
Its called taking the bloody apex and following through the racing line!!! Dont comment what you dont know okay??? You seriously expect the cars to have full traction going 70-100% throttle while cornering while using only one lane?!?!
@@Verdeniza Bro, if you notice that I used the word open road then you should understand what I mean. I believe most of car/car racing lovers know what apex and other driving concepts and skills are, but the problem is road racing causes danger not only to the racer themselves but also to other drivers down the road. And indeed, I didn't see and drifting or power-sliding skill in the entire video. No judge at all, it's the bloody fact.
From my perspective, this was "dangerous" but also safe. Both drivers understood the potential of their cars. The Tesla driver actually wasn't too slow, you could tell he was purposely trying to give the AMG some distance just in case. The AMG is dangerously but also the driver seems to be checking for oncoming traffic. You can tell in the beginning he always gets back into the proper lane for upcoming blind corners. I'm not promoting this, I'm simply saying that this was very fun to watch and because it was done by professionals, no one was hurt in the making. This RUclipsr isn't promoting "illegal drift battles" either, he's just filming exciting content. For European drivers who drive on roads like this on a regular basis, I'm sure they understand the dangers of drifting out of corners.
Obviously, us normal viewers shouldn't and probably wouldn't be doing this kind of stuff. As stated in the description, both drivers are professional drivers, so we all understand how skilled they are. But it's always nice to see and respect other people's skills.
Show me one harpin he took right pls my driving teacher would lough at me with the Lanes These guys where driving. Also in the fast lefturns. He just cant know if he might die which might be also Kind of cool
@@francis9504 He's not trying to be fast, he's trying to push the car so that it slides, anyone with any little bit of driving experience can see this. Maybe your driving teacher can teach you the difference.
@@jeantsu6850 oh anybody with a little driving experince can drift thats a Statement 🤣 props. Pls tell me the difference of try to go fast and try to Drift 😅😬 i mean i like the Video a lot thats not the point. With pushing the car you mean play with gas an steering a little bit?
@@francis9504 I'm saying that you can clearly tell he's purposely driving like that. He can clearly take the better driving line which would allow him to exit the corner at the most optimal speed, but instead in a lot of corners he's throwing the weight of the car around to get it to slide. Tesla driver recognizes this and gives him a lot of space to do this.
The guy in the merc can really drive. It's alot harder in front on what is essentially a street circuit (cars going both ways)
Well, no, not really. This is far too fast and sketchy for the road, and the constant white-line cutting / blind corner taking is irresponsible, and shows a certain level of immaturity.
I enjoy videos like this and I’m no saint as I occasionally enjoy a nice spirited ride but you guys go into corners too hot and cut into the other lane in which there are many blind corners. If there was an incoming car it will end badly. Drive safer dude.
Warched the video I cannot see any dangerous cutring corner manouvers. Yes, the drive over the lane but its always on a visible strech, where you can see far enough ahead.
Really!? Go to race track and stop risking lives, prats!
1) this is Togue, not drifting.
2) not bad driving
3) need radios and spotters so you dont take out that innocent going home to their dog who will starve bc you guys didnt have spotters
bro just touch some grass
How much battery did you have before and after the run?
Hardly a "drift" battle
Gone are the days when foot work skills and smooth gear shifting are involved. Now, its just one pedal and the rush to be at the grocery store🤭🤣
Yeah, and zoomers think its exciting 😂 amateurs
Maybe a couple of poweslides, but I didn't see any drift.
Not a fan of street racing. But have to admit some nice skills drivers seem to know the road and their cars well. Also it is very nice to see they are respectful of other road users in that they are keeping in their lanes when they can't see out of corners. And when they came up onto slower car driving their direction they took their time instead of cutting him of by doing some dangerous overtake.
This is not racing. It's spirited driving. There was no overtaking or tailgating.
Most corners ok but some are problematic, wrong lane with blind upcoming corner or quick trough plainly blind corners.
@ryan L 😶
@ryan L what are you doing here? Go watch pepper pig or something else
Nice driving from the Tesla, Mercedes fella needs to tighten up his style, coming out of every corner on the wrong side of the road on a public road is just dangerous
No one is thinking straight here lol
People please don't fight for choosing EVs or gasoline cars . We can buy them both. And all of our sons will drive EVs someday. Let's taste the roar of gasoline engines before they disappear in the future is one point, or use the EVs for saving money is the other. Also, There's formula E now. EVs can do race. chill out guys
I don’t really see pro driver skills here...
Exactly
"Both guy at the wheel do racing in LMP (tesla driver) and rallye WRC (Mercedes driver)! " Press x to doubt
@@rafaelpires4576 let's see you do better with tsc off and drift mode on
@@bokev29 There are literally thousands of people normal people that do better. The description is overblown, none of these two is a pro driver.
Both drivers are at the same high level of idiocy...
wheres the drifting ? all i seen was oversteer on corner exits
There is no way the driver of the AMG is a WRC driver. He can hardly place the car correctly and even on his attempts to drift he fails most of the time.
When that a45 gets into the boost you got no chance 😂😂 amazing driving changed my opinion on Tesla a bit
? The tesla was gaining on him lmao, you act like it was 5 seconds for a45 to go onto boost LOL. Oh man you people must be gen z's, he wasn't trying catch the a45, he was keeping 4 car spaces behind in purpose LOL, you don't want to be up his ass around corners, that's dangerous asf
Nice road. A45s seemed very keen to oversteer when turn out of corners. Too much torque for such small car. Hehehe. Nice
The driver literally has 0 cornering skills.That’s why
Looks like fun but it's irresponsible and reckless. Putting other people's live at risk by using public roads. They can go to a local race track if they want to put the pedal to metal.
Shut up, Karen! You saw the title and you clicked. If you don't want to see this kind of driving there are plenty more boring videos to watch on youtube.
Sorry but to Film that on an Open Road is Just stupidity.
Otherwise your comment wouldnt exist
Illegal drift battle 😂😂
AMG mercedes > any tesla
(in my opinion)
Tesla's the future. Ofcourse if you've got the money to buy and RUN the AMG, go for it.
Agree AMG’s the best
TM3 propulsion only in track mode... not full.
@@romainb7018 irrelevant, tesla is a boat to begin with
@@crazydrifter13 future in daily driving, when it comes to track ICE is still the better option
This is great. Some good, safe, fast driving. AMG looks like a lot of fun. I’m surprised the Tesla can keep up. Very impressive
It has more hp, and is only slightly heavier, plus he is following. Its embarassing that it almost couldn't keep up with the Amg.
You are both cutting the curvs. It’s highly dangerous. Stay at least on your side. It is also more demanding for your driving abilities.Motorbiker will also appreciate it.😌
cutting corners is ok as long as you can see far enough and you can make sure that nobody is in danger
@@8ball758 except they cut most corners at the wrong places...
Pussy!! Haha
Any hopeless cunt can drive fast using both sides of the road, looks far more skillful when you can drive quickly in 1 lane.
@@poppajack5332 exactly.. which is sadly most of them like 99% on public roads you see..
A45 > Tesla
Nope
@@jcnews5636 exactement
@@diegoscala4505 yes
That Mercedes is so much faster than the tesla
I mean it has better power to weight
TM3 propulsion only...
@Car Freaknatic no the tesla understeers like sumo before it can find the correct direction. tesla is way too heavy for touge AKA ev's weakness
@Car Freaknatic no weight is a bad thing, lower center of gravity is good but that doesn't mean it's the only thing that matters in cornering. in the video it shows that the tesla understeers a lot, a few more kilometers it will lose it's tire grip more and also the brakes will fade faster because it's heavier, which explains that at the end of the video the amg is extending the lead.
@Car Freaknatic lol comparing race car to street car shows that you know nothing. porsche 919 hybrid evo is faster than ID.R by a mile. race car is faster than normal street car because it weigh less. the fact that you don't know anything about weight shows that your opinion is based on fanboy riding
The driving experience in the AMG has gotta be better surely?
Of course.
no shit but we can appreciate the AA battery car
@@huntaaa4 why?
@@senadhasanbasic260 i hate tesla but the model 3 performance is hard
@@huntaaa4So you dont hate Tesla.
The diffrence is that the A45 can do that for hours. The Tesla must be charged up after this 9 minutes.
No, the oil overheated on the AMG.
If it was a C63 6.3 then yes it would had done it for hours if the tires lasted
The difference is that it costs 1/5th with the Tesla (service, fuel etc).
@@Haldexify the dif is no sound.Not fun
@@MrCarguy2 no. there is almost no road car that would take that for hours without complaining. A C63 6.2L will overheat the gearbox, the diff, the brakes and probably the engine oil. It's quite an effort and uphill.
Should swapped TSLA in front to see the drift. Mercedes is crushing Tsla coming out of the drift though.
For friggin sake ,we need more videos like these because :
What else are we going to
do during a pandemic ?
Was the guy in the AMG trying to drift or just lousy at holding lines? I found his driving skills erratic. He could have been miles in front of Tesla if he was smoother. As for the Tesla, it's always harder to be following behind because you never know when the guy in front is on the gas. You almost have to anticipate his exact patterns in advance. Very hard to do.
@Jim Dark Don't tell me you were the buthurt loser driving that car? If you were please go back to DMV and get your license _AGAIN
He has to lookout for incoming traffic.. but I feel this amg is way faster than Tesla. Mostly on the Corning part..
I feel like the merc guy has to look out for on coming traffic, and the tesla guy behind. But tbh, the distance the Tesla guy put is a bit too much, perhaps he doesn't have as much experience on a Tesla? Because I've seen some serious drivers setting respectable numbers in a tesla. But it doesn't seem like the tesla driver is driving full throttle. It's either that or he's afraid that it might damage the battery or drivetrain even though the tesla can handle some load (not a lot tho). The uploader is a professional driver tho, so I wouldn't say he's unskilled.
Edit: grammar and typo
Track👍; Road👎
That wheel lift at 1:07 😁😅
Tesla batteries must be flaming hot after this run
they are water-cooled an refrigerated with a compressor if temperature still keep increasing power limitation will be applied around 50° Celsius, only happens once to me on the track after 2 laps (15min) with my other car audi s3 i start chill after one lap (8min) as the oil is already a 130°c
@@foxy5855That would be more or less an issue with your particular Audi S3 I would presume.
@@mackimations not sure, i had same behaviour, with the civic type r fk2, and the gold 8 GTI clubsport. Dont forget that mass production cars are not race cars, exept some supercars with proper oil cooling like porsches gt2, gt3 for example
@@foxy5855 That's interesting I figured that most modern production cars wouldn't have that issue despite not being race oriented machinery. I guess the more you know, thanks for the heads up. Though it does make me wonder how spec series use production cars with no change to the oil system and race for 30 minutes+ no problem. Maybe the type of oil used is the determining factor?
@@mackimations oil tend to become thinner with high temps that’s why I prefer to do a pause or chill down when it goes over 130°c specially on technical tracks, thinner oil mean lower pressure and low oil pressure means a high risk of wear or dommage in some component like rod bearings or head components, that’s why also after track session I do a oil and filter change! Even on cars with “long life” bullshit oil they say is good for 30’000km I keep doing my oil change every 10-15k km. Oil is cheap, engines aren’t ;)
All fun and games until someone from the oncoming traffic cuts a corner as well. Nice driving tho
That guy in the Mercedes really knows how to drive that vehicle and most importantly he knows how to treat a petrol engine car which is why he has such an advantage.
no just no. some parts of the road against the cliff with barely enough room for 2 cars to cross and you guys were doing 100+ with no visibility, you're just lucky to be alive, doesn't matter if you're hamilton or sebastien loeb, that was fucking dumb shit, not for you but whoever could have been on opposite lane.
I hope someday you'll realize how juvenile that was (and considering the lack of hairs I'm sad to think you should be past those things by now)
show me timestamps where they would've hit oncoming traffic
@@MixedRealitySimRacing don't agree give me some timestamps where this happens, maybe if someone would also drive like them downhill its would be very close in maybe 2 or 3 places in the video but I think thats it. still dangerous of course but the chance of that happening is very small, they are also professional drivers.
@@MixedRealitySimRacing I get that, and if were to drive there myself I'd probably also do that instead of trying to cut corners If i'd wanna drive fast. I just don't agree with the original comment saying "they're lucky to be alive' I think this wasn't actually as dangerous as many people may think. of course you still wanna avoid any unnecessary danger. (agree them being pro drivers makes it more stupid but this does say something about their ability to handle a close call situation much better)
@@MixedRealitySimRacing Man, do you have a real car? "Sim master" 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Imagine if the driver of the oncoming vehicles drives like that. Bam!
Covering your speedo doesn't change shit. Speed can be calculated from a point in landscape and time. This is hazardous driving.
Baran Güler the word illegal is in the title of the video...
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 going 10-15% over the speed limit is also illegal, jaywalking is too. But this video on scale is on the extreme side.
My point was that covering your speed doesn't change. Speed can be calculated from the video.
@@Barano555 I believe it may also be recorded by the vehicle.