Why Envy is the Most Miserable Sin
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2023
- Here I share some reflections on why envy is so terrible, and how to overcome it with gratitude.
This was filmed by Crossway, who published my book where I develop these themes: www.crossway.org/books/humili...
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00:00 - Introduction
With the internet age and social media everything seems to be an "image" of wealth, prestige or status rather than reality. It seems fairly easy to fall into the trap of envy and fear of not having what we need (although much of it often seems to be in category of wants rather than needs in America). The Lord has blessed me so abundantly and
Our God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we ask or think” - Ephesians 3:20. Thank you Dr. Ortlund for this refreshing and edifying perspective and reminder.
My life is sh*t and I'm trying to cope with it. Envy has been a consistent struggle I've had to deal with.
It comes mostly in the form of envying other people's talents and aptitudes that I don't have. Money and popularity don't phase me much, but I'm always comparing my God given strengths and aptitudes with others....and it doesn't usually end in a positive place.
Envy or contentment is my biggest personal struggle I would like to overcome, but fail miserably every single day! Great message my friend!
Thanks Karl!
"For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice." -James 3:16
I've been struggling with envy recently so this is very timely, thank you for the reminder. 💛
As a Catholic, I really enjoy your videos explaining your beliefs to get a better understanding of how they are defined by a Protestant. I find that important as I know what it is like to be on the receiving end of our beliefs being defined outside what we actually believe. I watch your videos and think to myself, this is a Christian. Envy is such a good topic being something not mentioned that much with all the other topics out there.
Thanks Paul! Glad to be connected to you!
@@TruthUnites Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
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CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
John 15:5
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
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Work of God =
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
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Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
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Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians.
14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary
Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics
Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.
Hi I used to be Catholic until I became truly born again and what the person put above explains it all as Im not sure God would want us to praise Mary as Himself😅😅
You can ask God to show you where to go and to speak to you in a language you will understand and He will happily do it for you
God bless you!
This is one area which I recognized over the course of last year especially, with some things happening in my life, I really have to work on. It might not seem like envy at first, just wishing to have normal things other people have, and enjoy and take for granted, so naturally I want to have it too (I'm not even talking about material stuff) - but it quickly turns to misery and depression that is debilitating. Only envy causes this. I have so many things to be grateful for, yet I keep focusing on things I don't have...
I relate to this a lot. Part of the problem is I think this concept of "normal" when in reality human experience is quite diverse, and even among those who have normal things, the grass is not always greener (e.g. hidden miseries, or other sufferings we don't see).
This is so true and it's something I struggle with. The last 6 years has been rough! That's when you really start to look around and see that everyone is doing better and it makes you bitter.
Amazing stuff as always Dr. Ortlund!
Let us not envy our neighbor, but celebrate their wins with them and bear their burdens, and thus fulfill the law of Christ.
I don’t think envy is sadness at another’s fortune but sadness at your own lack of fortune. And your lack of fortune is revealed by comparing yourself to someone more fortunate. It’s like regret or unfulfilled desire.
No he’s making sense. Sadness at your own lack of fortune isn’t envy. You’re upset that someone else has something you don’t when you’re envious.
@@yallcrazy302 I would call that cruelty or hatred. If seeing someone happy makes you upset then you hate them. Which checks out cuz he said envy is the opposite of love. 🤔
Doesn’t envy usually involve both being upset at your own lack of fortune because we’re upset at someone else’s abundance? How we handle comparison really does seem to be at the heart of the issue.
@@noctidiurnal i think we often see those with abundance as greedy; they have more than they need. So our being upset is a kind of moral protest. What kind of a person buys tons of luxury goods for themselves instead of using that money to help others fulfill their dreams? So envy and hatred (at perceived greed) often go hand in hand.
@BDS That’s a good point. It also complicates things because sometimes there are real issues of justice and the sin of greed that are simply accepted, ignored, or trivialized.
30 years ago, I was listening to a sermon on the 10th Commandment, and the pastor said that "if you're not content with what you have now, you'll never be content with what you get." Not a lot of sermons stick with me for decades, but that one did. Powerful and true.
Greetings. Thank you for sharing that. I am with you on the ‘sermons have stood out to you over the years’.
/* In spite of what the bible says , a book made from trees, as my God hung on a tree I don't worship the tree but rather he who hung on the tree I do not worship the author of confusion although I'll read it and use it against the devils , play by their rules and use those rules against them. What does the bible say about exalting oneself? It says that he brings them low. And when people exalt themselves and the world exalts them as idols , do they not steal wives and cause envy?? Of course they do . There is no beating around the bush taking out envy or jealousy out of the equation when idols are exalted. How would you feel , if an idol slept with your wife and you saw a video of how excited she was with him in the bedroom ? Is it wrong to be human and feel rage and envy? Of course not. I say the only time one is in the wrong when being envious, is when your brother or best friend recieves a blessing as long as he didn't take that blessing from you then you should be happy for him. A brother in Christ is not a stranger or a devil . As a stranger needs to build trust and a devil is to b abhored in end times as God does not make peace with Satan in end times. we are made in his likeness so in end times we must abhor wicked enemies. Scholars argue that we are not in end times and other scholars argue that since he has been gone, this whole period is end times. So since opinions about the bible always have two sides arguing , I can consider us in end times. Also does God not have envy towards Satan the ruler who reigns over the world? I believe the world is everything we see and learn and know once we get out of the womb so the universe and multiverses all riled by Satan. And it would make sense that God is jealous as he gave reigns over to Satan the only sign of his return is the bitter envious jealous racist Jonas burning under the hot sun under A withered leaf because his enemies took everything from him. If the messiahs return is the embodiment of Jonas then expect an ordinary envious rageful man who envies his enemies that took everything from him even the power of being God. */
This is beautiful and will bless many people. Thank you for it.
So thankful for you, Gavin!
As a designer/artist I'm digging the off-center approach (using the rule of thirds). It makes this piece more conversational as opposed to instructional (which it is). It creates opportunity for viewers to come on board, which is interesting considering the serious subject matter. #artstuff
do you mean because he's in the left third of the frame?
@@pettipoole yes
@@Repentee thanks, I also got a "more conversational" feeling from this video, but I couldn't articulate the reason why until I saw your comment. thanks for explaining
I noticed rule of thirds, too! Very simple but effective.
@@marianhreads agreed 😁
Great short sermon! So much in these few minutes!
Whoa! Old-school, practical, relevant teaching. I do love this channel!
Gratitude is indeed the antidote and a simple but effective method is to say grace before eating. An excellent time to give thanks to the Lord and meditate on one's own fortune.
this little video packs a huge punch. love your communication style. thanks pastor
Envious people are bullies. They are the worst and do not deserve to get the power that they envy.
Excellent thoughts on Envy, here. I also quite enjoy this content format. Love what you have been doing recently, but this is still a refreshing change of pace.
THANK YOU so much for this..lately i have had thoughts of envy ...thanks so much for the tips to be grateful for what we have & what all God has done in our Lives
God bless
Good stuff Gavin
Thank you for this, it been very very helpful.
Very true, very thought-provoking, and very valuable. Thank you.
Envy, pride, and covetousness; three evil triplets.
envy and pride are like my children...
😱huh!?!?!?!@@Aventura_19
Thank you
I love this. It does seem to me that envy is an outcropping of pride, since the motivating factor is wanting what others have so you can feel at par or superior to others.
Met a woman on dating app a while ago who I immediately clicked with on a deeper level than anyone else. I saw her without makeup for the first time and I was quite disappointed. She’s still fairly pretty even without it, but I was disappointed. I have to accept that I’m not gonna score with some drop dead gorgeous woman who’s super hot even without makeup, and is also a devout Christian. And I need to not be jealous when I see better looking couples. Please pray for me.
/* In spite of what the bible says , a book made from trees, as my God hung on a tree I don't worship the tree but rather he who hung on the tree I do not worship the author of confusion although I'll read it and use it against the devils , play by their rules and use those rules against them. What does the bible say about exalting oneself? It says that he brings them low. And when people exalt themselves and the world exalts them as idols , do they not steal wives and cause envy?? Of course they do . There is no beating around the bush taking out envy or jealousy out of the equation when idols are exalted. How would you feel , if an idol slept with your wife and you saw a video of how excited she was with him in the bedroom ? Is it wrong to be human and feel rage and envy? Of course not. I say the only time one is in the wrong when being envious, is when your brother or best friend recieves a blessing as long as he didn't take that blessing from you then you should be happy for him. A brother in Christ is not a stranger or a devil . As a stranger needs to build trust and a devil is to b abhored in end times as God does not make peace with Satan in end times. we are made in his likeness so in end times we must abhor wicked enemies. Scholars argue that we are not in end times and other scholars argue that since he has been gone, this whole period is end times. So since opinions about the bible always have two sides arguing , I can consider us in end times. Also does God not have envy towards Satan the ruler who reigns over the world? I believe the world is everything we see and learn and know once we get out of the womb so the universe and multiverses all riled by Satan. And it would make sense that God is jealous as he gave reigns over to Satan the only sign of his return is the bitter envious jealous racist Jonas burning under the hot sun under A withered leaf because his enemies took everything from him. If the messiahs return is the embodiment of Jonas then expect an ordinary envious rageful man who envies his enemies that took everything from him even the power of being God. */
Wow, that’s very helpful. Also, love the new format / background!
Thanks for this Amazing content
Good word
Quality production here! Thanks for sharing this, Dr. Ortlund!
I do so appreciate your channel. Would love to see you post more of your sermons as well.
I love these vignettes. I don't think it's stated enough especially in our culture. Our lives can be turned around in a blink of an eye, for better or for worse. But no matter what, Romans 8. I think we lose foresight when we forget or ignore that fact when we're in the thick of hardship.
Loved this!
Very wise.
What a great message and wonderful outlook, Praise GOD!
Wow, crazy that I’ve been thinking about this lately. This video came at the right time. Thank you Gavin💎
Ive experienced the misery of jealous people my entire adult life ...stealing, lying, meddling in my business, prolonged waiting for things others get with ease, cruel rejection, public shaming, professionals lying on me trying to set me up for failure to end my career, cyberstalking, telephone harassment....you name it!! All from complete strangers wanting to act out their miserable state of being on me FOR NO REASON AT ALL.
The main phrase you used is really poignant, thank you!
Amen.
i struggle with Envy... especially amongst other christians... that i deem smarter..
James 4:5
JAMES 4:5“Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?”
Wow wow thank God for giving us you
Greed and envy goes together
Envy is lethal.
yes the spirit of man lusteth to ENVY
I think I might be caught in the sin of envy, but I'm not sure. My spouses cheated last year, leading to a break up and him out 6 months ago. In the worst of the grieving process, any couple I would see, would give me deep pain that I was now single. I would think of people I know together 10 years, 20 years and it would amplify my own loneliness and singleness. I haven't felt it in months, but visiting my sister and how well she is doing again in her 21 year relationship lately, I felt that pang of lack again. There is no resentment or malice towards her or her spouse. They have worked hard and overcame much to be close as they are. Maybe it's just part of the grieving process, which is much better, but not always over for me? Please pray for me.
Theres 2 types of envy. The natural. And the malicious. Once we act upon anything more than that. It becomes fruad and pride. Sloth is a direct path to envy. And beliving in jesus/ god is a direct way to sloth.
A nice job Dr Gavin ,but I think this video is for someone who didn't experience envy,unfortunately from some one like me who is suffering from envy for a long period of time this didn't satisfy me or give me any solution to my problem.
No! more icons the debate rages
Envy is terribly subtle.
Is there a biblical difference between jealousy and envy, I wonder? Scripture speaks of jealousy as a sin too, but I am thinking there must be a particular use of this word in mind. For instance, would it be sinful for a wife to be jealous if she saw her husband be flirtatious with another woman? In this instance, she is hurt over what is hers (her husband) and not over something that is not hers.
I think what you mean by jealous is possessive.
@@samueltomjoseph4775 yes actually that’s a better word
@@jncon8013 then I don't see a problem, God intended sexual love to be possessive. In this case the focus is not on the adulterer/adulteress but the betraying spouse, expecting him/her to be yours only.
Watching this right after your pornograhpy video and it reminds me how the two go hand in hand
But there will be no envy in God's heaven, so it can't be turned into hell.
Doesn't envy come from pride? I thought that was worse
I don't think so. Someone was saying that the sin of sloth leads to envy. That is likely true, since laziness can lead to lack, so then you end up in envy of those who have more.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 Envy comes from Pride.
/* In spite of what the bible says , a book made from trees, as my God hung on a tree I don't worship the tree but rather he who hung on the tree I do not worship the author of confusion although I'll read it and use it against the devils , play by their rules and use those rules against them. What does the bible say about exalting oneself? It says that he brings them low. And when people exalt themselves and the world exalts them as idols , do they not steal wives and cause envy?? Of course they do . There is no beating around the bush taking out envy or jealousy out of the equation when idols are exalted. How would you feel , if an idol slept with your wife and you saw a video of how excited she was with him in the bedroom ? Is it wrong to be human and feel rage and envy? Of course not. I say the only time one is in the wrong when being envious, is when your brother or best friend recieves a blessing as long as he didn't take that blessing from you then you should be happy for him. A brother in Christ is not a stranger or a devil . As a stranger needs to build trust and a devil is to b abhored in end times as God does not make peace with Satan in end times. we are made in his likeness so in end times we must abhor wicked enemies. Scholars argue that we are not in end times and other scholars argue that since he has been gone, this whole period is end times. So since opinions about the bible always have two sides arguing , I can consider us in end times. Also does God not have envy towards Satan the ruler who reigns over the world? I believe the world is everything we see and learn and know once we get out of the womb so the universe and multiverses all riled by Satan. And it would make sense that God is jealous as he gave reigns over to Satan the only sign of his return is the bitter envious jealous racist Jonas burning under the hot sun under A withered leaf because his enemies took everything from him. If the messiahs return is the embodiment of Jonas then expect an ordinary envious rageful man who envies his enemies that took everything from him even the power of being God. */
I disagree. Love says, I will sacrifice my good for your good.
If god made it the best blessing to be an apex alpha male then why is it a sin for a miserable beta male to feel the involuntary burden of envy? Pride, lust and hatred also exist as a result.
I only have envy of one thing in the world. Mushrooms but that’s biological. So is that I’ll a sin. I don’t care about material things.
So a person starving to death, is sinning if they wish they were the person that had food? If this is Sin then this is cruel and non sensible.
I guess people are sinning in North Korea when they wish they could have freedom like all of us.
When my father was hitting and abusing me as a child, I guess I was sinning with Envy that my other friends had nurturing homes.
Huh. Maybe God is also miserable, considering he's a jealous god. The fact that you can give better advice than god. Says a lot about how USELESS christanity is. It's done nothing beneficial.