Whitney Houston Vocal Analysis Part 2
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"She was her voice." SO TRUE. I can't imagine the grief she experienced when she "lost" her voice
ImperfectbutRedeemed she never lost it. She declined.
Facts!!! I can't imagine! Hmmm smh what a travesty........
She didn't lose her voice. She ruined it. There's a major difference.
Whitney also had emphysema the last few years of her life. And her autopsy showed no vocal injuries, but the issues were with her lungs.
What about nodules?
@@jamaalshelton6793 She did not have nodes, the report stated no damage to her cords, which would include nodes.
So why aren't you fuming mad that people here are using classical fach system to describe Whitney's voice? LMAO
I totally understand his on her point of view about her "not having good technique" (although he worded it wrong lol). Whitney had the natural intuition of a gospel/soul performer and her gift was her tone but I believe her technical prowess had A LOT to do with Cissy instilling everything she herself learned from classical technique the second she started teaching Whitney how to sing. Whitney was far too proficient in dynamic ability and had WAY too many habitual aspects to her voice for me to think she just NATURALLY knew how to do all those things from jump, that was ALL Cissy. Plus, Cissy often weaponized her skills whereas Whitney had a natural affinity. I STRONGLY believe she was Cissy's VISION of the perfect singer.
Everything from Whitney's diction to her phrasing. Nobody is just born with a 3 octave range that is completely connected and balanced in registration, especially not a Dramatic Mezzo with THAT type of coordination and THAT type of precision. That voice maintained the same quality from bottom to top, regardless of register AND sat on the breath perfectly with full chord closure with UNMATCHED breath support. Cissy think she slick.
Spot on! She was a phenomenal technical vocalist who had a rare natural gift as well.
This 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Whitney Is Literally The Only Artist That I Can Sit Through and Watch Struggle On a Performance and Enjoy It!!! Her Struggle Voice Was Masterful!!!
#TheVoice
Soooo true lol
For some reason I enjoy the struggle better than the effortlessness
@@nippyvocals928 Interesting, I Wouldn't Say I Enjoy It More but I Respect and Appreciate It The Same. Both Sound Amazing To Me!!!
That’s real talk I like that statement!!!!!!
Whitney for me will always be the greatest. Even in her vocal decline she had some great moments. The I look to you album was a great album. The first song she recorded was I look to you and I didn’t know my own strength in 2007. The last song recorded was million dollar bill which was in early 2009. You can hear the difference in her voice. Sounded clearer on the songs that were recorded from 2008-2009. Imagine if she stopped smoking. I miss this lady
I LOVE these kind of discussions! I think Whitney May have started as a light lyric in her teens but her voice quickly changed into a spinto once her twenties hit for sure. She has the weight and power of a dramatic soprano but instead of a metallic/steely tone, her’s was a warm tone. That combination equals spinto. I think the voice change during the early 90’s was attributed (in my opinion) to three things. Her introduction to drug use in ‘89, her developing vocal nodules during the bodyguard tour in ‘92, and then her having Bobby Kristina in ‘93. By ‘94 her voice had a very noticeable darkening to it, as well as lowering, and decrease in range. She still had the power but she didn’t soar in her upper range like she used to. I believe this loss of range is why she turned to really showing her agility more in the later years. She used agility to kind of fill in where the wonder of her soaring high notes used to be. Honesty by ‘95 she definitely was a spinto mezzo (still had power and warmth, just a lowered range) and she stayed a mezzo from there on out. Sometimes when I listen to mid 80’s Whitney, I start to really wish things had gone differently. I wish she was still here and singing to us.
SajSays this is a great summation! I’d have to agree with you!! And i especially agree that listening to her early music only shows us how much we really lost, and even though she was a huge pop starz, there was still so much potential that she didn’t realize
Whitney was NEVER a Light Lyric.
He is absolutely correct about the 4 fach thing.
Lyric Soprano 85-86
Spinto Soprano 87-94
Mezzo Soprano 95-98
Lyric Mezzo Soprano 99-04
I don't think any other singer has had their voice tossed thru the ringer as much as Whitney's had. Everyone points the finger at the drugs and cigarettes and disregards the fact that Whitney toured EXTENSIVELY for over a decade. Imagine the jet lag with the different weather climates and time differences all while using your voice to it's full capacity. I also believe Whitney had a habit of working herself like a dog. There are quite a few performances even before the Bodyguard where it's blatantly obvious that there was immense fatigue and yet she was still pushing through it pretty hard.
kayteeelle I feel like she lost her tonal quality for good in 2005 while she was trying to get sober. It was around the same time the marriage was falling apart, usually when you're trying to ditch one bad habit you tend to go even harder on another one. Remember in the 80s when Aretha kicked her cigarette habit then she packed on the pounds soon after because she replaced that vice with food? Same difference. In my opinion, While she probably couldn't carry out notes like she used to..she showed a lot of potential. She hit quite a few notes she hadn't hit in years (and no one ever gave her credit for that) , I wish she wouldn't have jumped back into music/touring so soon. It was too early in her sobriety for her to be back in the public eye. Maybe instead Whitney should've revived her movie career whilst continuing on repairing her voice. I can only imagine what the backlash did to her self esteem.
In My opinion, Whitney was a Dramatic Mezzo. I don't believe the Spinto thing, I honestly think Whitney's dynamic control is what have people bamboozled on that. They seem to think that "limp" quality attributes to being spinto when it's just a dynamic marking. Aside from her addiction and excessive touring I think her miscarriages also played a part in her stamina depleting. It can cause pressure on the diaphragm and she suffered 4 during her peak (92, 94, twice in 96). I wish people would acknowledge the whole scope of the type of fatigue Whitney endured when discussing her vocal decline. Drugs and Cigarettes played a part, but they weren't the ONLY culprit. Especially when you compare her to other singers who had the same vices as her for a much longer period and BARELY suffered from a vocal decline.
@Trix Sands Whitney suffered from Emphysema in her final years, not her prime.
Chaka Khan is a was a drug user from the 70s to the mid 00s. I consider her a prime example since she STILL smokes and yet she still has her voice.
Sarah Vaughan also smoked cigarettes and was a cocaine abuser and the only thing she suffered from was her voice becoming darker.
Natalie Cole did crack, heroin and was a cigarette smoker.
Phyllis Hyman did coke and smoked cigarettes from the mid 60s to the late 80s
Not too sure whether or not Cissy has kicked her habit but I consider her one too. Freddie Mercury and Jackie Wilson are also good examples.
@@kimberlyjade4094agree, Whitney Houston. Maybe -coloratura Dramatic Mezzo. Her and Taylor Dane were paired often as songs were written for their voices. But she definitely was a dramatic mezzo. I do think if she chose to sing in mix register instead of relying on her massive chest voice she could have been able to successfully pull off soprano roles. I do think if she did sing opera she would be similar to Grace Bumbry or who was actually a dramatic mezzo who could mix well enough to be a operatic soprano.
She also did 601 live shows throughout her life...must've taken a serious toll on her voice
This video is special to me. I am a Whitney fan until the end of my time. Although I never met her, her death still gets next me. She was a gifted singer, her artistry and delivery was impeccable. Awesome job guys 👏
She was hospitalized in Paris during the tour and when she got out her chest voice and her head voice were clear as a bell.
Y'all need to look up her performance of "I look to you" live in Nottingham.
It was vocally brilliant.
She definitely could have gotten most of her voice back had she quit smoking
That's why I still say she was always a coloratura her Head voice was always beautiful
Whitney just got to the point where she said forget about her voice
Thank you for your love for Whitney!❤️💕🌷
Please do Karen Clark Sheard I need to know her secrets as to how she keeps her voice up and technique
Karen Clark Sheard one of the best singers in the world. I'll take Karen over Whitney any day of the week. Karen's range, improvising abilities, her runs, riffs, growls, echoes, are always on point.
Dileesa has done a vocal analysis on KCS. I wish it had been longer. I wish she had Karen the full credit she deserves as a singer. It's probably because Dileesa doesn't appreciate Aretha Franklin.
Grand Marquis She sings for the Lord! Thats her secret.
The secret is to practice ur vocalise daily ...
@christian Williams - Peek-a-boo.. I see you.. bashing Karen in favor of Whitney over here too!? Lol
The cigarettes are 90% of the damage to Whitney's actual tone of voice. Other extra curricular activities caused the loss of breath control. Bobby knocking her teeth out and her having to get dentures also altered some of her phrasing and diction. Nonetheless Diileesa you hit it on the head when you mentioned the beauty, power, and agility that only Whitney had. This is what makes her "The Voice" and when you combine that with her knowledge of her voice and how she could maneuver around obsticles or vocal challenges my goodness. That woman was and is truly "The Voice".
I agree, well said.
Thank you.
@@tzazzy
Bobby knocked her teeth out? I never heard of that, I always thought it's from crack?
While in the topic, let's stop buying into Clive Davis' propaganda. First of all, Arethas voice didn't bounce back like he says, it became ugly, nasal and thin, nothing like the stunning instrument of her youth. Whitney not only smoked cigs, but she was doing mountains of crack for years and years, Doing any stimulant once messes up your voice for few days because of how extremely drying it is. When you add the smoke that's so toxic, it rots your teeth or what it does to your throat and nose, even when snorted, it's a recipe for voice damage.
When someone makes their instrument vulnerable with drugs and then tours excessively (probably not her fault), singing demanding songs 100% live, it's bound to fuck up your voice. Especially with her slightly chesty mix and how ard she was pushing the compromised voice, trying to give people her all.
My two cents...I graduated with a music degree...one of the first things my vocal instructor stated was "Your voice will be at it's very best in your early 40's"....Whitney never achieved her full greatness because of her personal lifestyle habits...but you have to admit she was pure dynamite from 1988-91...Her live performances where just incredible during that time (my opinion, a powerful dramatic soprano)...we will never know how brilliant she could have been...
I absolutely agree with this. I don’t think we really ever heard her at her absolute best. I also think had she become a gospel singer instead of a pop singer we would have heard things from her we wouldn’t be able to believe.
I would looove if you did something like this for Mariah Carey! To me she is without a doubt one of the best ever. And I think giving some insight into her struggle with nodules, the effects of alcohol and overworking her voice could really help to dispel some myths about her. I think one of the most fascinating things was during her Merry Christmas II You era, where she nearly returned to her 90s voice WHILE being pregnant!
She also seems to have these “glimmer” moments recently where you can definitely tell the voice is still there. Think Always Be My Baby 2008, Beacon Theatre 2014, most of the Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour, My All in Singapore 2018 and even some moments during the Caution Tour.
I really think that most of her issues actually stem from a lack of confidence (I’m sure in part due to constant negative media coverage coupled with bipolar disorder). Her entire 2014 Jamaica concert, as well as clips of her singing We Belong Together in the shower and Endless Love at home, tells me that when she’s relaxed, she can still DELIVER vocally! Delving into the mental aspect of singing could be really helpful for some.
Especially because (for the most part) she REALLY seems to take good care of her voice! There are recordings of her doing steam therapy and she’s known for impeccable technique (probably given that her mother’s an opera singer). Idk, it just doesn’t make sense that her voice would decline so much, so quickly!
I second this comment!!!
She did have technique her mama is name Cissy Houston Enough said...
Period 😜
Nice to see you back! Your vocal analysis are the best. I still watch the old ones from time. Keep up the good work and continue to bless us with your God given talent. 🙏🏿
I have literally been waiting for this since the last post. I can't wait to watch!
A lot of the last tour I just wanted to say go home and look after yourself, we'll wait. Whitney talks to my soul. I love the person.
They didn't allow her to do that. She didn't want to tour.
I agree more with Dileesa on the vocal fach, but I see where he’s coming from. In my opinion she started as a Lyric Soprano (she released her first album when she was 22yo), but she quickly became a spinto Soprano ( she had the power of a dramatic but she had the lightness of a Lyric and that’s a spinto)! The only time I heard Whitney doing coloratura was when she was opening for Luther Vandross (very early in her career), she had fast runs but remember that it’s not only fast runs that turn you into a coloratura, coloratura is a very difficult singing. However in my opinion, her voice was a Lyric Soprano then Spinto Soprano and the a Lyric mezzosoprano BUT at one point, she had potencial of becoming a dramatic coloratura Soprano (remember that she never really took care of her voice so the potencial was there but it was damaged unfortunately)! There’s a singer called Tarralyn Ramsey and I think her voice is close to Whitney if she’d had only aged without no damage to her vocal chords, she’s a gospel singer, it’s worth a listen!
Man, thank u for suggesting Tarralyn Ramsey - I checked her at once after your comment... Her blind audition on Voice is just terrific! That big high belts, powerful head voice are just so similar to WH!
@@crystalkit5295 Yes I know! She has an amazing voice and it's naturally powerful like Whitney!
Tarralyn is a great singer. I appreciate her singing more when she's not over singing. Less is more sometimes.
@@colortura True!
@@bigboom3693 Check Tarralyn singing ABC's and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star with Le'andria. It starts at about 27 minutes, and again around 37 minutes. ruclips.net/video/ickjx48Ln5g/видео.html
She was def Aretha’s Muse. The runs you were doing which sounded so good lol Whitney’s signature run? That’s almost the exact same run Aretha did in givin him something he can feel in 76 in the beginning of the song. She got so much from Aretha and made it her own but you can def hear the influence. Love this video!! Please do more artists.
Dileesa doesn't like Aretha Franklin. She has no appreciation for the Queen of Soul. One of the greatest female singers of all time.
Whitney was very influenced by Aretha. That's probably why. Haha
This new set up is everything! You’ve really elevated your channel 🖤
William Coleman you’re sweet ♥️♥️♥️
This video was so much better than the first one when you talkin about Whitney I need you to talk about with me and her voice.
I think Dionne was a big influence on Whitney’s vocals. If you listen to late 70’s/early 80’s Dionne you’ll hear very similar belts to Whitney but the head voice was all Cissy.
I don't care what anybody says that last CD she did is GREAT! I listen to it all the time.
somethingaboutlucy7 i liked it too 🤷🏾♀️
I really like For the Lover's Just Getting On Their Feet
I love the fact that this is all about her voice, the thing that made us all fall in love with her and one that happens to be the best we’ve ever heard
Yeah Whitney definitely lose her abilities due to her smoking daily, pregnancies and mostly TOURING Whitney really was a big touring singer and unlike most of the touring artists Whitney DID NOT lip synced so she was singing and just singing during 2 hours the hardest song EVERY night FOR YEARS ! And resting is very important for singers.
She did lip sync... come on, even Barbra Streisand lipped during her prime.
Morley Whitney barely lipped. Only on those variety shows where she performed her songs esp in the early years. She hated it.
@@samuelbennie7690 period 😜
@@samuelbennie7690 she actually lipped the G5 on I'm every woman on the bodyguard tour
Streisand spent decades without performing live lol. She should never be compared to Houston who had over 600 performances
Whitney's best years were 1985-1989. Unfortunately declined so quickly. I'm glad I got to see her in her early years. She was fantastic.
Vocally, she was at her best from 1988-1991.
@@mintefresh6608 1991 is my personal favourite year....her voice was a bridge between her 80's lightness and youthfulness and the DarkNess of her Tone in the 90's.... 1992 wasn't bad either
I feel that Whitney's best vocal year was 1989.
I think Whitney's best years were or debut album Through The Bodyguard. Every album she did after that I could hear a bit more declined. I knew her voice was changing what I heard the differences on The Waiting to Exhale album got it was the same way although it was very light and very faint I knew Mariah's voice is changing on the butterfly album. True die-hard fans can hear differences in our favorite singers voices and that is because we've been paying such close attention to them. We can hear the smallest of changes that a casual listener would probably never hear. Until it became very dramatic.
Even your description of her trying to replicate her earlier glory in those later years makes me cry! I have loved Whitney since i first heard her as a 4 year old. I cannot imagine the world without her voice having affected it nor my life without her music.
Whitney towards 2010 could not sustain notes due to a heart condition, hence the perfuse sweating and coughing to the side (also contributed to her swollen appearance. Loving this analysis but would have loved clips of singing to illustrate your point, as sometimes I was lost with the terminology used and it would have been clear if I'd seen Whitney..
Whitney "The Greatest Voice Of Them All"
Very useful video, I learned that no matter how much talented & experienced u r still u must take care of ur throat. 💜
I feel that of all the wonderful, great singers, Whitney was the cream of the crop. Aretha Franklin and a few others are in their own separate categories, but Whitney was just IT. I think smoking probably damaged her voice more than the drugs. Part 2 was worth the wait. 👍👍
Aretha was the Queen of Soul. Whitney learned many things from Aretha. Aretha was the standard, that many of the up and coming young r&b, soul singers were trying to reach.
Sorry, but it's ridiculous to pretend that smoking marijuana and crack doesn't harm your voice, but smoking cigarettes does.
Great guys. I love Whitney also........she could have come back had she took the time to heal.....but they ( Clive) should’ve made her wait/ all Greed!
There's a spoken version video of Cissy Houston's book. It's very lengthy so be prepared. It's actually a good read or listen. Check it out!
Really very fine analysis! I love it when people know what they're talking about. So many people these days open a RUclips channel and have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Clearly, these are knowledgeable people. I'm a trained singer so I should know.
I feel you on the mourning vibe. But I want to bring out that Whitney was dynamic...she also had filming to fall back on and seemed to also have an interest in artist development... I think that there was a pleasant stubbornness there, or even acceptance if you will that she was ready to move beyond the shadow of her voice...and there was promise there as well. I truly believed she could have turned it all around...it was all too soon and to much pressure for her to reemerge when she did...
Love this video! Even tho Whitney wasn’t my favorite artist she was one of my favorite Vocalist. Like the POWER and SUPPORT she has she would always show out and show how she was THE VOICE. My only thing is I don’t think she was a coloratura soprano in her first years I think spinto fit her more because you can compare her tone and weight to Mariah (1990) as a coloratura and Whitney still has more weight and power, but wasn’t as fully agile. But was she a dramatic mezzo soprano later on? Or just a Lyric mezzo soprano?
The weight might have been a stylistic choice though, or a vocal habit.
Lol Whitney Houston not fully agile?? I have to laugh. Have you ever taken time to listen to her audio concerts?
@@malibongwexulu6409 She was very agile but not as agile as Coloraturas like Beyonce, Debelah & Mariah.
Whitney Houston-The Queen of Vocals,Vocal Genuis,The Vocal beast.
But that apart, she was a voice to be reckoned with. Love you Nippy
The Both Of You Need To Listening Whitney Houston & Jermaine Jackson- If You Say My Eyes Are Beautiful & Take Good Care Of My Heart. And Also Listen To Hold Me With Whitney Houston & Teddy Pendergrass.
Besides Aretha, Barbra, Dionne and her mother, I recently noticed that Whitney picked some vocal stylings up from Donna Summer.
thatsoulchild ooohhhh interesting! Thank you for your input!
Example?
I don't think so.
OMG YOU DON’T KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR VOCAL ANALYSIS !!!!!
@13:10 I wish he would have said Aretha just so I could see Dileesa's reaction LOL
*Dileesa was spot on from the beginning:* *Whitney* was a *Spinto Soprano!* (A Lyric voice that can be pushed to sing Dramatic lines/vocal climaxes without strain plus they usually have some darkness to their voices). Compare her voice to other well-developed Lyric (Full-Lyric) Soprano voices eg. Celine Dion, Lara Fabian, Lisa Fischer etc.
*Not a Coloratura:* she was impressively agile but not that agile. Plus her voice naturally had more weight & output than a Coloratura.
*Not a Dramatic:* Her voice was powerful but not as powerful & dark eg. Patti LaBelle, Monica Naranjo etc.
*Not a Mezzo-Soprano:* Her tessitura was that of a Soprano & bloomed as it ascended. Later, she was simply a damaged Spinto Soprano. It's a tad unfair to the Mezzo-Sopranos to put damaged Sopranos in their category. Plus Whitney didn't have the richness in her low register like a true Mezzo-Soprano.
8:31 You can't really talk about technique in mainstream music without mentioning Whitney. Her technique was phenomenal however she also had that unbelievable natural gift & "soulfulness" that made her sound spontaneous/unrehearsed. She gave perfect vocals without sounding "too perfect" to the point of not being perceived as a vocalist who can't emote.
"There's no amount of technique that's gonna outrun what smoking does" - Dileesa
Completely spot on quote!
I really admire his passion though plus he made great points about all Whitney could do even when her voice deteriorated plus her stage presence!
From Whitney's albums from 2002-2009, you can tell the lower part of her range got a lot richer. I feel like it really started with the preachers wife era, but her lows got more rich as she aged. I still don't believe she was a mezzo. I personally don't believe your voice type can change just because your range changes. Whitney's range only changed because of her bad habits that were unnatural. Imo, she was always a spinto soprano, so I agree with you on that.
@@nathanieljohnson5908 Thank you for your insight!
I could really use your help explaining it to @PeterJonesDeLaCruz
In my comment thread under this video
ruclips.net/video/m-c6ODxSpyw/видео.html
He's been claiming that Whitney has always been a Mezzo-Soprano 😫
@@GarageStudio7 Lol, he is something else. His reasons for why Whitney is a mezzo don't make any sense and he thinks that a contralto mezzo hybrid is a thing.
@@nathanieljohnson5908 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Exactly! Truly glad you read it, I really appreciate that 😅👏
@@nathanieljohnson5908 I gave enough citations/sources to prove a mezzo-contralto voice type is a thing. You can review that long thread. The shade is unnecessary.
Awesome commentary.
Please do one on Stephanie Mills or Melba Moore. Both of them have crazy voices. Neither of them either got the respect they deserve.
Wow! The first Dileesa video which doesn't feel like a mug shot. You look beautiful and the background isn't depressing. What a change.
Wow!! I didn't know about fach! Thank you all for teaching and for your analysis!
I like most of you guys work and videos, but I don't believe Whitney was a coloratura at all, I believe Whitney was some form of spinto throughout her entire career. Firstly, coloratura voices are not just agility, they tend to lean towards smaller volume outputs, and they often have a similar, homogenous tone between head voice and chest voice as well as a natural blend between the two. Whitney's voice was very well blended, but it was not a one voice sound, like say a smaller voice type such as coloratura would have. They also have an upper extension and a higher tessitura than the average soprano voice, Whitney's voice is very comfortably in the soprano tessitura, often scaling comfortably up to C6, but not much higher without counting the odd one or two notes.
Will you do an analysis on Lauryn Hill please?
I wonder about what influence Karen Clark might have had if any. She had/has some crazy runs! That woman sings runs like a violinist plays a Stradivarius!
I agree that she's a spinto soprano, with the weight of a mezzo's voice while having the soprano abilities.
Thank You for this! I think it is very important to keep Whitney's Legacy alive. Much Love
I like the break down you guys do, however, could you do videoes to show the changes in the voices you're talking about. Some people may not understand the different classifications you're talking about and may also not remember the stages of the artist you are analyzing when they have a career that spans back to the 80's. Thanks.
Please do a review of Usher Raymond... that man has a gorgeous clear voice that's also decently powerful.
Yaaaaay I love when you make long videos 🥰🥰
Haven’t watched the video yet, but from what I know Whitney had a vocal surgery after which her voice has changed A LOT. It has not lowered per se, but the timbre has changed.
I’d say she started off as a light-lyric soprano, and then in the 90s was a lyric-spinto soprano. I’m not sure if she has ever reached mezzo per se, but classifying a voice after a surgery like that is hard.
Bel Canto technique can be used to sing anything. jazz soul opera etc
Love the setup!
Fantastic talk by both of you !
People blame drugs but that isn't what caused her vocal decline. She smoked lots of cigarettes and had emphysema. Her autopsy report even states no damage to her vocal cords, the damage was lower in her lungs. Breath affects your sound, tone, phrasing, range, etc. With that being said, she is my all-time favorite vocalist.
I don't agree to her ever being a Lyric. Her being a Spinto in beginning seems quite obvious. Spinto's have the lightness that Lyric Sopranos do but at times they can be pushed. She was agile but I would not agree to her being a coloratura either. I also believe that the agility she had in later years was caused by a decline in breath control. I know so many singers that can not sustain certain notes so they resort to runs and so perhaps that translates as coloratura to some people.
Also, I would never have considered her a mezzo either. Certainly not because her voice declined so much. We have no way of knowing what her voice would have been like had her voice not declined. Rachelle Farrell is still a soprano after all these years despite her voice darkening.
thatsoulchild team spinto all day lol and i do understand your thoughts on her not being a mezzo. If a voice has deteriorated, it’s not really the same thing as it changing naturally , right? Did her breaks change, for ex? So i hear ya, i think these are all great thoughts
I agree totally. I think she was always a spinto but it developed once she found her footing. If she would have taken care of the voice and maintained then we would still hear those dulcet tones. She had coloratura ability if she would have trained for that but the power is undeniable. People who can’t sustain notes usually learn how to do runs to cover up.
Naw Whitney always had agility she just didn’t feel the need to do runs and Rifts every 5 seconds. The usage of runs later in her career was because of the loss of range/tone not control. No way someone with no vocal control can do what she does on that Christmas album
I agree she was never a Lyric Soprano
So nice to see you back! I’d love to hear your thoughts on people like Sarah Vaughan, Barbra, and Linda Eder. People seem to hold them in high regards
Hey James, Dileesa only goes back to the 80's. Any singers before that time she has no appreciation for.
Love Linda Eder!!
I need another 20 minutes on this topic, I didn’t want it to end
Hi Dileesa pls provide your vocal analysis to the Philippines best selling artist of all time, Asia's songbird -REGINE VELASQUEZ who is also a lyric soprano
Great analysis. Please, can you do a vocal analysis on Taralynn Ramsey and Deborah Cox?
Also would like to see (if you want to do): India arie, xscape members, coco swv, Karen sheard, Tori kelly, Brandy, Ariana grande, kelly price, rachelle ferrel, Celine dion, Miley Cyrus
Or Jojo skskks
I LOVE LOVE LOVE WHITNEY HOUSTON!!!! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID HIS COMMENTS WAS SPOT ON
Do one on Celine Dion I'd love to hear that vocal analysis, i think her voice changed too especially after her first child and well into the early mid 2000's and then on into the 2010's.
when he said she was 22 I totally believed them lmao
Nope. There is not such a thing like “improper technique but because she was a raw talent ...”.
She did had a proper technique. That’s why she sounded like that! Developed chest voice as well head voice.
It’s not insulting to that talent to admit where there were faults. She had a developed chest voice and a beautiful head voice but there was barely any mixing at all into the 5th octave. It would’ve changed some of that beautiful dark tone and weight to the voice, and I don’t think she wanted that.
@@DereBear thank god she did not lighten up her voice like most mosquitoes do in pop music.
@@fzpe856 damn, read Karen Clark Sheard, Aretha Franklin, and Patti Labelle
@@DereBear no one sings in the fifth octave without “mixing. She could be more or less chesty without problem. I enjoy Mahalia Jackson singing in the fourth octave with her massive chest voice.
Patti has a massive head voice, but she neglects her middle and lower register. Aretha and klaren never been as technical as Patti. By the way, as time went by for Aretha, she sounded more like a whiny whale.
@@fzpe856 and whitney could’ve if she tried mixing more as opposed to just chesting everything. Do you notice how I can give a genuine critique without being a dick and insulting the god given talents of the deceased? Wild
Sorry for making another comment, but I heard that according to the autopsy, there was no permanent damage for her voice, but she needed rehabilitation which she never truly got before it was too late and she started even bailing on concerts to go do drugs. I was told that she could have gone back to her old sound somewhere around I guess what one could argue is a fuller lyric- spinto ish soprano. I’m not sure a voice ever changes so much from that kind of voice into an actual mezzo voice, I just think her voice was worn, the nodules, constant screaming at Bobby, drugs smoking drinking long tours without rest, poor hygiene and lifestyle etc made her voice hoarse and very inflamed which caused it to deepen in an unhealthy way. I wouldn’t really consider fach at that point since she just really need good rehabilitation. It’s like Giuseppe Di stefano, a really obvious beautiful lyric tenor instrument who always partied and smoked so much and his voice became really ragged and deep but he is still a lyric tenor instrument
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I do believe the same. She never became a mezzo. It was just a tortured instrument.
Good Video.
I loved this lady, such a beautiful voice. I love watching her live performances, she goes to so many different keys and ranges, and I loved how she had the ability to make the same song sound different every time she sung it. Yes, unfortunately, the smoking made her voice decline drastically. Her autopsy report is on Google images. She had mild emphysema. You could even hear the difference in her talking voice it was so breathy and raspy. I think they pressured her to go out on that last tour too soon because of greed...😠. Had she had more time to rest, training, and care of her voice, she would have done much better. I get sad too when I see some of those last concert performances..poor Whitney too much pressure and too many greedy people around her. I miss her dearly..😢..rip..Miss Whitney..❤..great video!
He is right she started a lyric coloratura!!!! Bodyguard she was still a lyric coloratura but trained her voice dramatic coloratura just to sound different. Even Pavarotti said she was a lyric coloratura.
She had a beautiful voice but she never took care of herself
Whitney said he wasn't fun anymore and she was tired of all of it.
We are gonna try dis agin
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@@Dileesa its all good. I liked the passion
Dileesa Archer please do Karen Clark Sheard
She already did
RUclips “Karen Clark vocal analysis” very good video
Vocal cords are muscles , all the touring she did in the 80’s I think it built up her voice of the 90s it took her voice to another level. I’m addition to her natural superiority. Cigarettes and drinking in the end hurt her voice and her as we all know!
Aaliyah, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Prince & Aretha Franklin. Will Be The Only Singers I Will Only Listen To .
Thank You..! 😙
Dude looks like Michael Jai White
Greater Life 🤣🤣 he’s heard that before!!
Now this discussion is more like it. Part one can be scrapped lol. He came across way more knowledgeable here. I would love to hear more Dileesa though. Natalie Cole is proof is that if you stop smoking how your voice can recover. Just don’t wait till your voice has given out to do it. Whitney was forced to do another album by Clive. Anybody with sense would have told her no and let’s find a different route to bring you back until you get enough voice to really make a credible recording.
Dionne, Aretha, Chaka and her mother have all been noted to being her biggest vocal influences. Barbra was an influence when Clive came into the picture.
Would LOVE to see another Mariah episode however, there’s definitely a lot of post 97 performances that i think would help get a better understanding of the inconsistencies of her voice and how she really did have days that came CLOSE to her prime as well as more raspy and heavy years vs lighter brighter years
Charmbracelet tour highlights, 2009 mid belts, 2012-13, a lot of a capella moments and all studio vocals lol. You can also tell that she’s aware of her fails and is scared to try so she tightens up on stage. Her tour and even more so her at home vocals are always better bc she’s not nervous (and isn’t wearing a corset lol)
Mariah was never comfortable on stage honestly
Jamaal Shelton true she’s only had a few moments where she’s gotten close to comfortable
Mariah was GREAT in 2000-04, her low notes, head voice and whistle register were actually better, she only acquired some rasp and lost the ease in her highest belts, her pitch was also at all time high. but Dileesa doesn't really like Mariah, nor is she ever researching her stuff, probably because she is busy, to a point where she is unwilling to even take few minutes and watch a "vocal range" videos of singers she analyzes.
@@ocandro She did several videos on Mariah voice already
I'm A Die Hard Whitney Houston Fan For Life.
The Both Of You Are Not Going To Disrespect The Legacy Of Whitney Houston.
Dileesa Archer u did that RUN tho I call Whitney'ism lol
Did The Both Of You Know That Whitney Houston Made Her Television Debut With " Home" From The Wiz On The Merv Giffin Show On April 29th 1983, Whitney Was Just 19yearsold.
Whitney duting her Debut Era 1981 up till body guard Era 1992 was not lyric soprano she was a Spinto Soprano. Her voice and timbre waa always full even when she was a Soprano.
I agree with Dileesa Bel Canto is certainly the standard for classifying a voice so i felt and agreed with her on this one and not the gentleman guest.
I would love for Dileesa to do a vocal analysis on Donnie McClurkin.
I'm also a Swiftie since I was a teen, her voice was much better in those days than now. Like she was doin pretty good but now it's like kinda flat. I don't like the new songs of Taylor though. I think her voice changed in a bad way instead of good. Cz I'm a huge fan of her n I have watched all her work n lives. I know this video was about Whitney💜but u mentioned about voice changes that some singers had getter voices but bcz of some issues theirs turned different in a negative way so. But am still a fan I just shared wt I think. ❤
Do one on Chaka Khan
Nippy has her days now that she was still a lyric. It was the smoking that will bring sometimes darkness in her voice!
I remember Whitney mentioned that you have to talk less to conserve your voice. But she always had to do a interview.
cigsrettes lowered that voice. she chain smoked
Cigarettes will drop your voice and the more you sing with this new voice it allows you to sing lower notes that were weak notes they become stronger but there is a trade off. As you can reach lower notes it hinders your ability to sing in a higher key through a song so you go to your next highest register but still can do notes in words in that light airy voice you had before smoking. Basically what was a high natural will become a falsetto or head voice and that seems like what happened to Whitney. But because she mastered her voice and worked with the changes it was a natural or smooth transition. I could be wrong but that is what it sounds like to me and Im speaking from personal experience.
Just for the FYI, steam therapy doesn’t actually do anything to help the voice. The hot air can even exacerbate the swelling and inflammation, and the steam itself doesn’t reach the vocal cords because the steam particles are too big. Nebulizing with a nebulizer with 0.9% saline does work
whaaaa?? wow, the more you know