I line up the top lines on the master (in sequence for left and right) and then take a look at the line routing and mater cylinder to fork leg gap. I want to make sure I can get the bar angle I am looking for ergonomically. Once that is done, I run the lines down to the calipers, attach there and start the bleeding process.
@mugget the bladders on the reservoirs are only put in place once the bleeding is complete. Otherwise they will expand taking up a lot of room as the brakes are bled. Yes, the rear brake takes a very small amount of fluid! Dave Moss Host
@MrMattriddell yes, exactly for that reason. We see so many reservoirs completel full and then witness front wheels locking up completely once the brakes have been used a few times. Dave Moss Host
@MrMattriddell Not sure if that is the main reason, but also because the bladder when re-assembling will take up a fair bit of the space in there. I know when doing the brakes on my K6 Gixxer Thou the rear fluid reservoir especially didn't take as much fluid as I thought - the bladder just takes up alot of room so when you look at when re-assembled the level is good.
@mugget in getting the job done the focus is on installation. The brakes then have to be bled to get the air out of the lines and in so doing ll the old oil is removed from the calipers that way. Dave Moss Host
Thanks for making these videos. This video & many of your others are really helpful, going to be putting on some coremoto steel braided brake lines on my '16 R6 tomorrow. Good to know torque specs & the order of the lines at the master cylinder.
stainless steel brake lines improved my rear brake and front brakes so much because the expansion of the rubber lines make the braking performance worse
hey Dave, When you replace the OEM brake lines on the 08 R6 with a dual line (not split at the lower clamp like stock) what's the trick to installation up top. Do you pivot the brake and throttle assembly to make room, then pivot back after install?
+INFINITYCL oh yes, they're awesome! Not only are they gorgeous with the color scheme, they feel so smooth and no locking up. I broke down and had my local shop install them since it was my first time having steel braided lines. I have both front and rear; I recommend these because the lines won't need to be replaced unless damaged. They will only need to be bled every year or couple of years. I didn't feel like the stock lines were spongy, but there is slight improvement. I ordered mine from Amazon. Galfers are great lines.
+Anthony Hill My yamaha haynes repair manual actually says to replace the brake fluid every two years annnnnd then replace the hoses every 4...sounds ridiculous, I know.
Hi, why did you bleed the brakes again after using the reverse brake bleeder? I thought the reverse brake bleeder already forces all the air out of the lines while pushing in new fluid. I ask because I'm about to do the same thing on my R6 with Galfer lines
Excellent service good job well explained
Used a paper towel under the wrench for the pinch bolts. Nice!
I line up the top lines on the master (in sequence for left and right) and then take a look at the line routing and mater cylinder to fork leg gap. I want to make sure I can get the bar angle I am looking for ergonomically. Once that is done, I run the lines down to the calipers, attach there and start the bleeding process.
Dave Moss is a hell of a teacher!
your videos make my day .... i spend lot of time watching this videos ...and always helped me...thanks a lot!
Dave your soul patch is badass!
I noticed you didn't use the bleed nipples on the caliper to remove the old fluid? Is that just for speed in getting the job done?
@mugget the bladders on the reservoirs are only put in place once the bleeding is complete. Otherwise they will expand taking up a lot of room as the brakes are bled. Yes, the rear brake takes a very small amount of fluid!
Dave Moss
Host
Would like to see an install on ABS with the inversers. Just got my Galfer kit.
the air gap is exactly for that - fluid expansion.
Dave Moss
Host
@MrMattriddell yes, exactly for that reason. We see so many reservoirs completel full and then witness front wheels locking up completely once the brakes have been used a few times.
Dave Moss
Host
@OnTheThrottleTV Cheers Dave - thanks for your response, it makes sense!
dave IS the man!! best show on youtube!
@MrMattriddell Not sure if that is the main reason, but also because the bladder when re-assembling will take up a fair bit of the space in there.
I know when doing the brakes on my K6 Gixxer Thou the rear fluid reservoir especially didn't take as much fluid as I thought - the bladder just takes up alot of room so when you look at when re-assembled the level is good.
@mugget in getting the job done the focus is on installation. The brakes then have to be bled to get the air out of the lines and in so doing ll the old oil is removed from the calipers that way.
Dave Moss
Host
Thanks for making these videos. This video & many of your others are really helpful, going to be putting on some coremoto steel braided brake lines on my '16 R6 tomorrow. Good to know torque specs & the order of the lines at the master cylinder.
stainless steel brake lines improved my rear brake and front brakes so much because the expansion of the rubber lines make the braking performance worse
Thanks Dave, I'll give it a try. See ya at the track!
Now tell the owner not to crash again haha..
hey Dave, When you replace the OEM brake lines on the 08 R6 with a dual line (not split at the lower clamp like stock) what's the trick to installation up top. Do you pivot the brake and throttle assembly to make room, then pivot back after install?
Thanks for the great videos
Thank you sir + OTT!! I just bought some Galfers for my '09 FZ6R. I can't wait to put them on. :-D
Any difference?
+INFINITYCL oh yes, they're awesome! Not only are they gorgeous with the color scheme, they feel so smooth and no locking up. I broke down and had my local shop install them since it was my first time having steel braided lines. I have both front and rear; I recommend these because the lines won't need to be replaced unless damaged. They will only need to be bled every year or couple of years. I didn't feel like the stock lines were spongy, but there is slight improvement. I ordered mine from Amazon. Galfers are great lines.
Who told you they have to be bled every year or two?
Thats news to me...Unless you used DOT 5.1
+Anthony Hill My yamaha haynes repair manual actually says to replace the brake fluid every two years annnnnd then replace the hoses every 4...sounds ridiculous, I know.
+Dark Sorceress Zyra You are correct read it in my manual after reading your comment. I usually flush my fluid based on color . Anyways safe riding 🤘
Exactly the info I needed, thank you
Thanks,
Nice work, and clear diction.
Glad they have been very helpful!
Hi, why did you bleed the brakes again after using the reverse brake bleeder? I thought the reverse brake bleeder already forces all the air out of the lines while pushing in new fluid. I ask because I'm about to do the same thing on my R6 with Galfer lines
Great video, this helped a lot. Thanks!
What about the reflectors and brackets? Should we keep those off?
wow such a great video
So is the air gap just so that it has room to expand under heat?
great video...
Hi i need help i put on new wheel on my r6 2014 now i use the rear brak it sticks what did i ddo wrongit all cleen
I found that video very informative thanks
nice one thanks
What if my master cylinder does NOT have a bleeder? How to proceed then?
thanks! Great vid!
crush washer
Good Video
got a 04 Suzuki 1000 no bleed on the master! what should I do?
What happened to that front brake lever?!
Do I need to remove my entire front end in order to do this? Or can I leave all my fairings on?
ThaPersianOne You can. That R6 have a crash.
What kind of brake fluid did he used?
YEYEI R6 Galfer Dot 4.
Is that an aftermarket brake lever? Lol been there…..
Thanks for this - just watched MCN's equivalent video which was a complete joke compared to this detailed guide. You have a funny accent though. ;)
Bob Farrell let me guess...you’ve never travelled outside of Alabama.
Bad camera man I can’t see a thing on what you’re doing