How To Sit Correctly on a Motorcycle
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Riding body position can be a dead giveaway of a new or inexperienced rider. Sometimes just by looking at how a rider sits on his bike you can instantly tell he doesn’t really know what he’s doing. So today let’s discuss proper body position for riding our bikes!
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A little info about me. My name is Andrei Bodrov, originally I'm from Moscow, Russia, and now I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Back in Moscow I was a motorcycle instructor and creator of Moto Control Beginner & Advanced motorcycle rider courses, which quickly became the most popular courses in Moscow (well, at least the advanced one😁). My advanced training course makes emphasis on slow speed riding techniques at first (such as good clutch and throttle control, proper riding posture, proper use of vision, etc.), then proceeds to more advanced techniques (such as aggressive braking, trail braking, maximal lean angle). The course incorporates a lot of exercises from DOSAF slow speed riding (similar to police rodeo like motorcycle training in USA), braking and cornering exercises and motogymkhana style riding. And now, since I actively learn English - I decided to post some useful videos for both your and mine practice!😉
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Since everyone writes this, it's necessary, I suppose 🤷, so here we go. Disclaimer: Ride at your own risk, you are responsible for your own safety. Me, Andrey Bodrov and my channel, Moto Control disclaim any liability incurred in connection with the use of riding techniques from this channel. Use common sense, wear full protective gear and ride in a safe and predictable manner!
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I have been riding fast for 30 years. I watch hours of motorcycling videos each week. BTW I have never commented on a youtube video before. I had to stop what I was doing and go to the laptop to comment: YES! This guy gets it! Every single part of this video should be studied by the new rider who thinks he is just naturally better than most other riders. Toes on the pegs, forward to the tank, knees clamping, elbows loose and down to the tank, zero handlebar input at the apex of a turn. Your spine should never be "erect". This shit is life or death info for those who want to push it. Watch the video again, maybe twice. Nice job bro.
Spine should never be erect? i.e. a comfortable hunch ok?
Not many people understand how crucial this informatio is.. Very well put and each position mentioned is what differentiates from a comfortable position to an awkward and painful position.
No we just ride for years and years
@@ScorpioNy6there is always some dick telling you how to ride .get a push bike leave motorbike for real bickers 😂😅😅😅😅😂😂
If the instructor who teaches you how to ride properly is worth his salt you should already know all this, and so not have any problems.
But only as a guide.
Bikes come in one size and one size only.
People come in not only so many different heights.
But more importantly, different ratios in leg, arm and torso height.
Telling someone that you need to sit like THIS and turn like THAT is so wrong.
As an inexperienced rider I realise that I have been sitting slightly too far back in the seat. I am touring at the moment so experimenting and am now sitting in the correct position and it makes a world of difference to the stability and control of the bike.
Your video style is excellent. Very clear instructions and straight to the point. Very helpful and useful to an inexperienced rider like me.
If this guy followed me on my annual 625 mile ride (triumph Bonneville) ,,, I think he would be annoyed at all the ways I repositioned on my ironing board,,, I mean Bonneville 🤣
@@littlet-rex8839 Having riden all sorts sadly I do know where you are comming from L.O.L........
Me too, I moved all the way to the gas tank and my riding became a 100 times better.
Keep learning, practicing and experimenting and you will probably live long enough to become an "experienced" rider like me, with 50 years in the saddle. Oh, and by the way, even though I'm an old geezer now, I mostly kept to the legal speed limits, even when I was young.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 I am not interested in speed as someone who rides to tour. You can't really appreciate the place you are travel through at speed. I prefer a slower pace on the backroads. Anyway the bikes I ride are small engined and slow anyway so I wouldn't be able to go very fast even if I wanted to. 😆
Good clear advice for the inexperienced. I’m 38 and have had motorcycles since the age of 3. Raced motocross my whole life, got my first road sports bike at 17 and knew the massive difference in position straight away. I have never had an accident on road due to always being on a bike and instinctively knowing how to position for the most controlled ride. Take note newbies this guy is spot on and could save your life on the road.
I would like to add,as someone who raced motocross,and has been a motorcycle rider on and off the road for almost fifty years.Before anyone thinks that these videos are unnecessary or a waste of time,believe me when I say,any one or all of what this gentleman is showing you in this video can save your life while riding and will save your life or at the very least,keep you out of the hospitals emergency ward.
Both of which I guarantee Noone wants.
Bless you all,protect what you have and who you are because there is only one of you,and regret is a terrible thing to have to live with.
The lessons you learn can't be teached. Sadly it's life. If you take on all this stuff it won't be what you will learn. In other words. Riding is high risk and if you accept that then you will respect riding and that will protect you more than anything.
I have been riding for 17 years at least and I must say, it is very nice to refresh and check my technique with videos like this to make sure I am not developing bad habits. I am no stranger to finding that good habit practice and checking one's self can save one from what could have been a crash. Good technique will vastly increase your chances of a safe riding experience, not just for yourself but for others you may be riding with.
04:10 time mark: Comment on wrist position.
I was taught not to position my hand the way that you prefer (slightly bent forward) because if the motorcycle suddenly jerks forward, like when a novice engages the clutch too quickly, that your body will slam backward. When the body lurches backward, the wrist will straighten out (rotating the throttle) while the rider hangs on for dear life. This will further accelerate the bike - not a good thing when trying to control a bucking motorcycle.
So, for an experienced rider, this may not be a big deal. He won't get into situations where he inadvertently rotates the throttle. But it is an important detail for new riders.
His arm is probably trained enough to compensate. But I would not recommend that either.
I've corrected so many basic mistakes even though I have been riding for 5 years. Too bad my previous instructors didn't give such clear instructions.
Their job is to make sure you are able to ride safely on your own learning how to ride proper and how to ride is on us :3
The most essential information, we don't want to stress out in a long journey having the incorrect body position. Our body always relax and ready to adjust to the tarmac and off-road. Thanks mate!👍
Absolutely superb - clear advice, clearly & logically presented & just in time for me to resume motor biking after a 40 year gap !
Good morning! Woke up and watched your video first thing and now your lesson is saved in our brains 😃 Your teaching style and technique is excellent and we love your personality and realistic expectations you add to all of your wonderfully informative videos. My wife & I are fairly new riders and we feel strongly that you have played w major role in our improvement. Keep up the great work & God Bless.
Thank you! I'm glad to be helpful😊
40 years ago I started riding and at the same time bought a motorcycle. I have to say that the experience of sitting correctly on a horse is very close to that of sitting correctly on a motorcycle. Legs close to the saddle or tank, relaxed but stable upper body, relaxed grip with stretched hands, even the foot position on the footrests and stirrups is also identical.
Helped me a lot
It's always a little treat when you release a new video.
Thank you, once again.
Cheers from the Netherlands
bro you put cover photo a ducati and you show how to seat at one Enduro is not the same thing sitting in a sport bike or enduro
Watch the video again; the principals remain the same.
I used to ride 3 times a week in one of the most advanced canyons in California, Del Puerto, Mines and Jumction, one once a week to 49 or Alice’s. Took Keith code level 1 to 3, but I stopped ridding 13 years ago when I started my business.
Two months ago I bought a new bike, and I rode it for the first time yesterday around the block, scared as shit, confused, and everything that’s said in this video, BUT Jesus Christ it felt so great to be back on a bike :)
I don't care if someone thinks I'm a noob when seeing me. I did 5200 km in 2 weeks. You sit differently depending on situation - I don't care how do I sit when I'm on highway with cruise control enabled. For doing hours of that kind of riding I can look as a noob - the only thing I care is my comfort. When it comes to riding twisty roads I focus and sit differently - exactly how you describe. Don't judge someone chilling at town or highway - you don't have to always be a Rossi.
They look silly though.
Yeah I love all these people telling other people what to do, I like you ride to be comfortable, yeah for sure you'd ride different if you were racing but I don't do that on the highway!
I'm buying my first ever motorcycle this Friday, a 2013 Honda CB500X. I took the Motorcycle Safety Course, I'm brand new to motorized, two-wheeled vehicles. I plan on commuting, exploring the back roads and eventually start taking it on some forest service roads. I'm so excited to start learning! This video was helpful, thank you! I appreciate the details you added and examples you showed, it added a lot of clarity! Great video, thank you!
Interesting ! great video for beginners.I'm 74 street riding since 16, track racing since 13. Your one of the few that mentions importance of engaging your core, SO important especially riding on the track. My 2 Ducaties give me a workout. I average over 15,000 miles annually and about 6 track days a season..
I do 18K miles a year commuting to London and have no desire to do a single track day since I started that commute. And no weekend rides either. Got enough excitement from riding in London 🤣🤣🤣
@@ddff3618 What's a track day?
@@94D33M track day? It’s when you go to a race circuit on your bike or a car. Generally no speed limits….
Your problems start with the letter D.
The paper technique is a great idea. I tried it out and it works great. It gives an instant feedback, so it is way easier to correct the moment the error happens.
Yes! By the way, it works best if the paper is 100 dollar bill😆
@@MotoControlEn lmao
@@MotoControlEnI tried it with $1000 dollars and now I'm homeless
I have been riding bikes for over 50 years and when I saw this I thought what a load of rubbish !!! I did watch it to the end and then thought do you know this chap is right .. Having said that there are natural riders and those that just ride bikes "are there not" ???? Whatever a well put together up load and new riders would be well advised to watch so well done sir !!
Many thanks from up here in Canada! I will be riding again after many years and your videos remind me of everything I loved about riding while teaching me new things with precision and humour.
This helps a lot. I am a rider for 30 years now. Subconsciously, I am quite confident with my riding posture however, as I age I needed a refresher like this one as Im having muscles pains and the therapist blames my riding posture nowadays. Great one help from you All the best and ride safe too.
I love not only your content but also your accent and sense of humour. Keep it up !!
This is a seriously top-grade educational production. Well done & thank you. Love the floppy arm riding footage.
This is the perfect video i was searching until now...i get a pain on my left shoulder when i ride 1km or so in my motorcycle ..i searched youtube and couldn't find a good video on seating position...thank you
Great lesson! I find there is most definitely a "sweet spot" for me on my FJR. Because it is sort of in between a sport bike and a touring bike, I find that using my core and straightening my back allows my arms to bend properly and stay relaxed. If I'm not paying attention to my core, it is easy for my arms to straighten out and stiffen up. I don't remember you mentioning grip but I am always conscious of my grip and try to use as little force as possible but still maintain contact and control (similar to when grappling). These are VERY inspiring videos - Thank you!
what really helped for me was a few trackdays to learn the difference in body positioning, and driving a lot of mountain passes on many different bikes
I love your videos and the way you so eloquently explain every topic. Thank you!
Such a great teacher! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Great video, thank you! After a while out riding im back on a ZX10 and am practicing every time i ride to get better and better at slow control. The seating position is key as are the realxed arms...REALLY IMPORTANT! Im not quite there yet but your videos are helping, any futher tips are appreciated!! 👍🏽
one of the best videos Ive seen yet on riding form
THANK YOU
Love your humour and teaching style!! Cyclone about to hit here in New Zealand...you took my mind off it for a few minutes 🙏♥️
Nice to see a fellow kiwi here. Hope it's not too bad your way. I'm in Upper Hutt so a little windy and lightish rain.
Wow this is totally random but yes it's always good to see fellow Kiwis we get around don't we. It sucks what happened down the coast and Hawks sending ❤️
Taranaki here🤣🤣
@@uhtred7860haha we're everywhere!!
Very clear and nicely presented. Cheers, from Lincolnshire in the UK and my old FJ1200.
Most of these tips place the proper motorcycle position pretty similar to the proper horse riding position, minus heels down. Very interesting!
Thank you. Thanks to you, I can clearly see the reason of my almost numb hands after 20 minutes of riding. I was trying to sit as behind as possible on the seat.
Excellent 👍 I have been riding for 30 years and always struggled in this area. I will practice your advice thanks 😃
This is a 10/10. Super informative, with a nice ambiance of sarcasm. Bravo
Thank you so much for this brilliant video! ❤ By follow your directions, I feel so much more in control on my bike! 😊 Greetings from Sweden .🇸🇪
I been watching a lot of motorcycle skill channels and I think yours is my favorite.
This is some great tips, it has instantly pointed out some of my rookie mistakes and at least I can fix them
10k +miles on bikes from 250 to 1100cc. I never learned to think about these details. It sure explains why some machines felt more natural to me. Great information. Thank you!
Thankyou for your vids... I just ride a pcx and rode it like a bicycle.. after an hour or 2 got arm pump and sore neck. Listened to this an so comfy now... brilliant x
I was always told not to have your wrist bent forward over the throttle or even flat on the throttle. If you accelerate too hard and get thrown back, and pull on the handlebars, that will force you to open the throttle even more, then more thrown back, etc.
The wrist should be bent slightly under the throttle, so if you're thrown back, the pulling back on the bars will force you to close the throttle. Someone correct this if it is wrong. Thanks.
Your right indeed
For a beginner you are absolutely correct as they're the ones most prone to catching whiskey throttle 😅.
For experienced riders that fact remains, however one could argue that if your hand/wrist/forearm are not comfortable in that position based on your body or bike setup, then that could lead to muscle cramps or excessively tight grip which can also leading to handling issues or even crashes.
Ie. It's easier to focus on the road and safety if you are also comfortable
Thanks, just off around France for 3 weeks so your tips are v well received
You are awesome!! Really enjoying and learning a lot from your videos. Thank you!
You're the best teacher comrade.
A lot of bikes force a riding position. Some are murder in town but comfortable at 50mph plus. Shaped seats leave litle room for sliding backwards. Fixed position bars leave no room for adjustment.. look carefully when choosing a bike
I plan on showing your videos to my girlfriend who is going to start riding this year. Great information as always!
As a noob, this is very helpful indeed.. all your videos are very informative.. thanks alot.
👍🏻 As always: Good explanations. And: I like your humorous nature of the presentations.
As soon as I saw the beginning of the videoI thought it was Argentina, then a Russian guy starts speaking in English!!??...now I read you have moved to Buenos Aires :) ...so far, my photographic memory of places never fails me. Enjoy the weather and food down there!
Nice crucial information and life-safe tips! Thank you very much!
Relaxation is key. Rear ended two years ago, I wasn’t tense before the crash and out of instinct I curled up protectively. I see tons of guys riding around with Frankenstein arms.
Hi Andrey! Again, amazing tutorial again! Any advice for riding on steep and long hills (uphill and downhill)? Body position, braking, parking, maneuvering through potholes? (Costa Rica isn't very.....flat...)
Thank you for this video this was very helpful!👍🏽
Very useful. I've been riding for years, but never sure if I'm doing it correctly. My takeaway is that posture is "bottom-up" - not "top-down". That's easy to remember, and I thank you for the advice. I hope you're enjoying Buenos Aires. Good call - the food is terrific. 👍
This video is God sent. Thanks for this crucial information.
Another great video. Thanks! I usually always hold my throttle like an ice cream cone. Dunno if it's a bad habit or not but i feel like i have way more control of the bike especially in curves.
Very informative video, and I can see that you are very tall as a result you have good posture almost in all bikes.
This is excellent information. Thanks for sharing.
Very helpfull....now i know why my shoulders & wrists used to hurt after long rides
Hey mate! Thanks for your lessons. I’ve learned so much from them. And your accent is so great :)
This information is half correct, Arm and body position depends also on seating position of the bike design, whether it's Rearward, Neutral or Forward.. pegs are set either forward like on cruisers, or Rearward like on sports bikes or neutral like on dirt bikes, dual sport, cafe racers, or some touring bikes. Other than that.. Great information for beginners..
You were kind. His information is totally wrong, Tall riders cannot bend their foreamrs at 90 degrees with their elbows and grab the handlebar like he did. If I do that as a 6'4 guy my hands will grab nothing but air and the handlebars will be 20cm below my hands, so straightening the arm to reach the handlebar is the only option. This dude's IQ who created the video is pretty low, he thinks everyone is short like him and he doesnt take the fact that most motorcycles arent cruisers with 1970s tall handlebars.
"Your video style is excellent. Very clear instructions and straight to the point." (person.X) -- I couldn't agree more, not to forget your humour...
Very informative...thank you
What a great video. I've learned so much. Thankyou very much
Excellent information Sir, Thank you!
This was very helpful. Thanks so much.
Thank you bro! Subscribed from Romania.
Very insightful information, thank you!
I'm picking up my first bike this weekend, I just had this thought yesterday 2:26, at least I know it's a valid concern... Glad there's floorboards on mine, holy crap.
Great tips for a great ride, many thanks.
Really informative and easy to absorb lesson. Thank you. I LOVE your accent btw 🙂
thanks for this. very helpful.
As a brand new rider this is very useful information
Cool tip with the paper between your knees against the tank , I have never heard that before
Great video as always
for throttle control it might help to have the right forearm in line with the handlebar grip, holding the throttle like an ice cream cone. Throttle control is a function of body position, attention and practice.
Amazing content, cheers from Brazil
Brilliant advice thanks so much
Felt bloody awful riding my gsx-r until I changed the footpegs to rearsets and changed the handlebars then the new position was fantastic making riding a lot more comfortable and the bike easier to control at speed.
Love it!!! Thanks.
Brilliant video,,thanks a lot.
This is so important and starting fundamentally sound with the right principles leads to safer riding and can save your life. It leads also to much better development as you learn to go faster. Great video sir!
Very good... world class. Thanks.
Good stuff! Thank you
Sir, some questions below:
1. I am riding a semi-automatic and tend to sit nearer to the front but when doing so, I find it very difficult to use my heel to step on the back pedal to downshift to lower gears because my legs are bent inwards. For the lower leg, is it ideal to be 90 degrees to the knees or bent slightly outwards?
2. However, if the rider sits in the middle, the sitting space for passenger will be then lesser?
To me, riding position is a matter of utility. We need to timely and comfortably operate all the controls, lean in to corners or counter steer, etc. Every bike and every rider is different. If a bike feels comfortable and you build experience with it, you'll default into a position where you should be able to operate it safely and without discomfort. But it's good to build some habits that can avoid common issues. Personally I ride a pretty small touring bike (Hunter 350) and I'm almost six feet tall. Operating it is very easy. I'm mostly sitting upright unless I have to fight headwind, which is when I crouch over and my wrists and elbows are noticably getting less comfortable.
I'm just getting into the habit of covering the brakes, trail braking and late apexing. Another thing I picked up is that when standing still, your foot should be on the brake pedal, not only to keep the light engaged but also for the sake of safety when you're getting rear ended (it's the most survivable situation if your rear wheel is blocked, rather than the front wheel or none at all). I need to work on droping my shoulders, and the toes on pegs is new to me but it kinda makes sense.
Riding on the ball of your foot is something that is so important especially on sport bikes. Thank you for covering this. I have seen so many people get a sporty style of bike and ride super flat footed. It looks so goofy and you can tell by the way they ride that they have no business on such a machine.
Very good information.
So nice to become a passionate RIDER under yu Your guidance
Almost flicked past this video, glad I watched, excellent advice. Greetings from New Zealand.
Yeah the sitting up against the fuel tank finally hit my riding position, most of my long rides i would get shoulder ache , recent 2day ride i had a pack bungeed on the back forcing me to sit more forward than usual, 2 days of riding no shoulder ache. Hour number 5 on the first day it hit me "huh" my shoulder is fine , second day same thing "huh" my shoulder is still fine. Usually i get maybe 3 hours down the road, especially if its highway riding , shoulder ache in the clutch arm. God dam revelation didnt think i was sat that far back but this video cemented it
Greetings from the PPRC great information as always.🇺🇸🏍
I´m saving money for license and a bike, will become a member when starting to practice for real. 😎 Thank you so much!
On the foot positioning: i think its important for beginner riders to always have the ball of their foot on the rear brake and on top of the gear lever, so they can easily do emergency braking or downshifting.
Of course you shouldnt put your weight of the foot on either lever or pedal, but the natural position should be there to reduce the reaction time needed. Unless you are racing on a track, you should always be ready for an emergency brake
It should be a dynamic thing that changes with the situation. What beginners should be taught better is situational awareness in my opinion. Balls of feet on the pegs makes more sense in my opinion as well because you can still hover over the the front brake lever in car of emergency which does most of the stopping. And I believe swerving does more in most emergency situations than braking. Just my 2 cents from riding in urban and wide open environments for about 8 years.
Agreed. Instep on the footrest so all one needs to do to brake or shift gear is tilt the foot. Riding with ball of foot on rests, like the racing guys who climb all over their bikes, means lifting the foot to operate brakes or 'box. It loses contact with the bike and adds to the reaction time. Good riding is covering all controls in potentially hazardous situations.
Thank you so much for this video
thanks for the idea
Awesome. Funny, but on point. Thank you.
excellent presentation of crucial info...