Episode 5 Sailing to Azores Solo: Collision at Sea Warning
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2017
- 'Isabelle' sails from Spain for Azores (solo sail) and uses AIS to avoid collision with cargo ships. Practical example of constant bearing, decreasing range using Vesper Marine WatchMate.
Its 10 years since I have sailed due to aged parent duties and I’m really missing it now. Enjoying watching your back episodes and also Erik Aandaraa too. I sailed with a group of very good sailor friends back then, one of whom owned a racing yacht . We raced the RORC series and the Fastnet, some in very heavy weather. Watching you both is inspiring me to get back into it. Thank you and keep them coming.
Thanks NP. My latest video -- Episode 51 --- was to Fastnet (though not on a racing boat). Great fun. Thanks for watching.
Great 👍 videos - I haven’t had a sailboat in the last 4-5 years and you are reminding me how much I miss sailing, time for a new boat next spring ..... in the meantime I’m sailing your boat with you 😎
Great news. I'm sure you will have a great time renewing with the sea. Fair winds.
I enjoy watching the last day and then watching backwards. Learning a lot thanks for the videos!
Thanks for the kind feedback David. Much appreciated.
Just discovered your videos and am enjoying them. You are a great teacher.
Many thanks for the kind remark Mary. My skill level is far below that of professional sailing instructors, but I share my mistakes and adventures with others in hopes of inspiring people to go out to sea --- and even solo. Thanks again.
You are the first sailor I see on the high sea who contacts ship politely and are able to maintain course. Most sailors I see go out of their way, automatically thinking 'they are big they got the right of way.'. I think it's RIGHT what and the way you do it. High 5
Great demonstration of a "Collision warning" and you subsequent actions Thanks for sharing.
Many thanks Fit OutPost. Much appreciated.
Thank you very much for the videos. I am sure that they take a great deal of time to make, but they are extremely valuable to those of us who are learning! I look forward to more of your footage.
Much appreciated Zak. Fair winds to you.
Im currectly soaking up all information I can due to my newly found interest in sailing (turning 40 so lets call it a crisis) and just completed my vhf course yesterday.
Just wanted to let you know that this material right here is GOLDEN!
Congrats Axebjo. I find it very interesting as a leisure activity. Good luck as you proceed.
Thank you for this vid, I have just learnt something new (ettiquet "my intention is") after 49 years of sailing.
I love this.I raced sailboats for 10 years, but nothing like this.
Many thanks Lori. I was very much a beginner/intermediate sailor on this first major adventure. I learned much from my mistakes then --- which made following passages drama-free.
Nice to see you have an AIS transponder on board. Much better to be aware of what is around you than finding out too late and having to take emergency maneuvers to avoid a collision.
Missing your sailing Patrick. Glad you put one film up the other week. Keep it up if you can. We've just bought a yacht! a Radio Controlled one. So we get to sail one way or another! 😆😆
Wow...dangerous for sure. He is big..most big ships dont care about sailboats.
Your device sensing ships closeby is awsome. So much more safety than it used to be.
Great video Patrick ⛵️👍
So glad I discovered these awesome videos.
Much appreciated Jack. Fair winds to you.
It is a pleasure to follow somebody that really know who to sail. Love you video style.
Thanks Cliff. I'm still very much a 'work in progress', but having a lot of fun.
Thanks for sharing this, Patrick!
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Cheers. Thanks for watching.
Just discovered your videos now, love them, very interesting and informative. Keep it up!
Much appreciated Halcyonza. Thanks for watching.
My respect Mr. Laine! Very useful videos again and again.
I enjoyed very much each of them! I wish you a nice and constantly wind in those great journeys!
Best regards from Montevideo!
Very kind of you Nunez. Muchas gracias.
Another well done episode! It's hard work to produce that much. Thank you for your work.
Thanks Bill. I was delighted to capture the crossing dialogue with Dina Trader. I especially appreciated that its captain altered course for me, a humble sailboat (though that is what the Col Regs require anyway). He was quite polite and professional. Super. Thanks for commenting.
Great video! Your radio accent is elite...I love it!
Thanks for watching Mike. Much appreciated.
I LOVE your videos Pat! Very entertaining! I wish I could go solo sailing for a while. Would love the challenge! Anyhow, keep up the great work & keep the videos coming!
Thanks for the kind feedback Aaron. Much appreciated.
Excellent videos. Content is spot on, presentation remarkably good. This is what fellow sailors want to see and learn. Good job. +1!
Many thanks Jouni. Your encouragement is much appreciated. Fair winds to you.
I just discovered your channel and I would like to say thank you for this content. Exactly what I needed. My goal, in 10 years, is to be where you are. For now the basics :) again, thank you and now back to more or your vids :)
Thanks for the nice feedback Dennis. Fair winds to you.
The best sailing videos on RUclips I’ve come across. Thanks Patrick. Greetings from San Francisco.
Hello RS, I spent much time in San Francisco when I was at school in Palo Alto. Would like to get back there someday to do some sailing in the bay. Many thanks for the kind words.
Thank you. Your video are amazing.
Hello Patrick, i have just started watching your videos, as i want to get into sailing ( Midlife Crisis lol )
and i have to say, you are so informative to me. Thank you very much, and keep up the good work.
Far too kind Darell. Many thanks.
Well done on your intentions - and your explanation..thank you for that also starry starry night - paint your palette blue and grey..
Hello Patrick, just found your sight , wow you do a great job in sharing and being extremely informative, I’ve watch many other sights and you are and absolute stand out. I’ve recently bought a 39 foot mono at 55 and looking to retire into sailing in the next couple years. I’m learning from scratch and everything you are sharing is practical, clear and well tailored for interested learners. Thank you for putting these sessions together, well done and please don’t stop, cheers John
Much appreciated John. Best wishes for some great adventures on your boat.
WX was OK after all. Swells seemed to be regular, wind cooperative. Nice demonstration of signaling your intentions. Thanks for another great video!
Many thanks Rob. Thanks for the feedback.
Patrick, really cool to see the AIS, and you, in action. Without it, it can be a hard call with the handbearing compass, especially at night. You explain everything so well!
Great episode!
I am SO delighted that the two of you have prioritized getting an AIS, even if just in receiver mode. I really do feel it is an essential piece of equipment on a cruising boat. It's not the cure-all to challenges at sea, but it will greatly ease your mind, and contribute enormously to your security. I want you guys to stay safe so I can keep watching your adventure in a vintage cat! Many thanks for the kind remarks. Very best to you both.
Dear Patrick, I just happened to see one of your videos. I found it intriguing and ultimately very useful and teaching. So I am seekng all of thdm, will take a while but I will learn things. I also have a 12 meter sail boat, I got it two years ago, an old boat which I had completely refitted spending twice its commercial value. And like you I am sailing solo. Though unlike you I am just a beginner, so far I only sailed around the Med. Thank you very much for all your pieces of experience and seamanship. Good wind!
Many thanks Maurizio. The Med can be a very challenging place to sail --- with very difficult regional winds. I do not consider Med sailors as beginners! Very best to you.
Love these videos, but you really REALLY need a periodic radar (scans a few sweeps every 10 minutes or so) because there are - for some reason - even cargo ships that run with AIS disabled or damaged. You did mention that fishing vessels sometimes turn them off as well - I would add that in certain areas you'll sometimes run into multiple fishing boats netting together with no AIS - scary!
Love the way you plot, and solve, problems Patrick. Looking forward to more!
I’m glad of comments like this as I’d like to sail soon and learning people’s tips is crucial for me as a beginner . Appreciated.
Enjoyed the video as always...tie-wraps securing shackles last about one year in the Florida/ Bahamas sun. Replace annually and shackles are good.
The sun isn't quite as bad here Reload. I've been running an experiment on 4 of them (just supermarket tie-wraps) for 18 months now. I check them about every week. All still look fine -- no breakages or signs they are brittle. I'll change them before my next major passage next March though. But good to know.
Brilliant Patrick ... Its a regular thing in the Southern N Sea and Thames Estuary (ships everywhere) except I say "permission to maintain course and speed" and almost always they are 1) aware and 2) alter course a degree or two for me! Not quite so alert out in the Ocean though!! Thanks for a great video.
I tip my hat to you guys who operate in and around the English Channel. I get nervous when I see one ship 10 NM away ---- you guys have to deal with multiple contacts, TSS's and tides and winds that can limit maneuvering options. True sailors.
Just got to see them ASAP and then communicate as you do. Just don't let a situation creep up until its too late. Just like you do.
Just caught on to your channel.Finding it very inspirational as a Middle age guy wanting to follow in your footsteps.
That's very kind of you. I'm going to invite you to my 30th birthday. :-)
Passed so close you guys should have hi-5'd. haha. Great video mate.
Hi Patrick. Recently came across your channel, and was very impressed. I am a retired Australian Navy Aviator, and my wife (also ex navy) and I bought a Prout catamaran in Sarasota Florida 2 years ago. We have since been to the Bay of Fundy and back to Beaufort, NC, where the boat is on the hard. We are returning from Oz in early May, and will be heading to Bermuda/Azores/Portugal in Mid June after a few upgrades (Sail-gen, water maker, and upgrade to Bimini and solar). The plan is then to spend a couple of years in the Med. With respect to the Col Regs, our SA (situational awareness) was greatly improved after we fitted an AIS transceiver. As the commercial tankers offshore could now see us, it was very pleasing to watch every one of them (day and night) alter course to pass 1nm clear of us. That was irrespective of who was the ‘stand on’ vessel, as our AIS identifies us as a sailing vessel. Obviously that was not the case as we tracked up the Delaware in poor vis, where we sat just outside the channel to ensure their marine pilots did not get nervous. Even so, a few called us by name on Ch 16 to let us know they were bearing down on us, and confirm our intentions. If we only had an AIS receiver, they would have been relying on their radar to see us, and calling an unidentifiable vessel on Ch 16.
Hello Adventurous --- always great to talk to a fellow aviator. Yes---- I felt so much better having Tx and Rx on the AIS. It changed everything. Really. I too now have many encounters with the pros who alter course without any discussion on the radio. The occasional nudge on channel 16 usually gets a rapid and polite response as everyone's situational awareness is so improved with AIS. Good luck on your extended cruise. Sounds great. Want to change wives? :-)
Excellent videos, thank you!
Many thanks AT. Much appreciated.
Hi Patrick. I watched all your videos and I came back to this one. It is very interesting to see how red your red jacket was and how much you lerned about your boat ( sail balance and aarrangement).
I still think your videos should be watched in a classroom.
I can't wait for the next season.
I have quite a bit more experience now Mariano than when I began making these videos 3 years ago. Hopefully, I am a better sailor and will be even a better sailor in 3 more years (though I may give in and buy a new jacket by then!). :-)
Please make more vids! You have a nice voice and good camera skills.
Very kind of you Silky. I'm planning a trip across the North Sea next Spring, so will make some videos if the occasion arises. Thanks for watching.
I agree! So informative and great voice
Good job following protocol. In that situation, on the open ocean, I usually try altering course and speed first and then watch the AIS and see if I can get the CPA number consistently non-zero. Then I watch the bearing and see if it starts changing. Failing that, I will put a (slightly panicked) call through on the VHF ...
Yeah --- I'm about the same. I'll make some early course adjustments if possible to try to avoid a close passage, regardless of who is stand-on or give way. However, if in a busy area where there are a number of ships, if you move to avoid one, you may just put yourself in the path of another (who has already adjusted course to avoid you). So, I guess I don't have a fixed rule ----- other than just following the ColRegs when in proximity of numerous vessels, or after the option of 'early' maneuvering to avoid has passed. The ideal situation is NOT to have to speak on the VHF, but like you, I don't hesitate to do so if I am the stand-on vessel in a challenging circumstance (wind, traffic, etc.). Thanks for the comment on this (somewhat) controversial topic.
Your series of videos is superb. I have only dipped a toe into the ocean but can empathize with almost everything you say and do. At 76 I wonder if i can ever do it again. If not I feel like you are doing it for me. Bravo.
Thanks for the kind remark Martin. I'm not convinced 76 is too old. I am currently 64, and my intention is to keep my boat a few more years (doing a few major passages). I'll then sell it and buy a 25-28 footer that is a little less physical, and use it for nice day-sails in my local area or along the coast. Quite a few friends in my local marina do that and seem to have quite a bit of fun. Many thanks for watching.
fantastic instruction thank you, and another song reference "Starry, starry night. Paint your palette blue and grey" PEACE my friend
Well-spotted Bob. I tried to slip one or two into most episodes. They often went unnoticed. It was a challenge for my daughters to catch them. :-)
Great video!
Thanks for the feedback SailingYacht.
Hey Patrick you have such informative video's I love watching your channel! Thank you for that! However m'friend, when inside as you place your camera down there is much distortion with the roaring, perhaps you could find a different mount for your camera!? When you're outside holding it, it is WONDERFUL!! I don't want to miss ANYTHING you say!! :) I just found your channel 2 or 3 days ago & LOVE IT!! I've learned A LOT just in the few I've watched! Thank you! I look forward to sailing with you more in the future if only in my dreams!! ;)
Thanks for the feedback DarInDar. I've made a conscious effort to improve the sound this year by buying what are called 'dead cats' (sound absorbers) for the mics. That said, there is a limit to how much improvement you can get with a GoPro. Bigger cameras with remote mics have much better sound, but you lose some spontaniety..... Thanks for watching.
Love your channel.
Thanks for the comment David. Much appreciated.
I like to be a phantom shipmate!
Well said Patrick
Absolutey brilliant and exciting to watch and listen to you Patrick, thank you for another great episode. What year was your Bavaria built ?
Very kind Richard. My Bavaria is vintage 2008. :-)
One function of the batten is to tighten the leech of the sail, as a mainsail generally has a positive curvature. Without the batten the leech may flap.
And that is exactly what happened clidiere. In episode 12 I ran into a gale, and even though double, then triple reefed, the leech where the batten broke flogged, and eventually tore. I was lucky though, and the damage was not too severe. I used the leech tensioner (nerf de chute) extensively on the return trip. 1 year and 5000 NM sailed later, that leech is still fine. :-)
These are great. Why do I hear what sounds like a motor noise?
Excellent VLOG! Q for the viewers: How difficult would this journey be with a 30" sailboat that is rated for B Coastal?
I just completed a complete circuit of the Atlantic (in 90 days) in a 28 foot Class B voilier. (Episodes 54-59). 🙂
Heh, I saw the white dot behind you and was trying to figure out what kind of cloud it was, and then it was the moon. I also find that this video more than most changed my perspective on, well, perspective. To my eyes, that cargo ship seemed far enough away that it appeared toylike, but the fact that the AIS gave you a collision warning suggests that distances are not all they appear to be while sailing.
I've got to say though, with every glimpse of endless waters and smooth horizons, I want to pack it all in and sail away myself.
It's great fun Steven. I only use a GoPro camera when filming. It does a poor job of capturing objects beyond 20 feet -- and side objects are a bit distorted due to the 'fisheye' effect. That said, it's great having a tiny camera that does a pretty good job on most things. With larger camera, you get much better pictures and sound, but you have to plan out the shots much more, so lose a lot of 'spontaneity'. Thanks for watching.
GOD SPEED 🙏🏻🙌🏻
Is that a Catalina yacht and if it is what model? I’m loving your adventuring crossing the Atlantic! And doing it by yourself! Amazing....😀
Many thanks MU. The boat is a German-built Bavaria 40 Cruiser from 2008. It is well-adapted for solo sailing (almost everything can be done from the cockpit -- no need to go forward). Thanks for watching.
@@patricklaine6958 Thank you for your comment it means a lot to be talking to a Navy jet fighter, wow your amazing and your videos make me feel like I’m right there with you! Thank you for your service! Take very care of your self during this crazy time! 😀👍
Another awesome video Patrick...thank you. How did you know what frequency to hail the cargo vessel? I am never sure what frequncy to be on and normally just monitor 16 for emergency traffic.
Good question David. It is perfectly normal and acceptable to call any other vessel on Ch 16. Once they answer, you then should say, for example, "OK, (name) let's switch Ch 8" (or 6 or 72 or 77). No one will criticize you for using ch 16 for a quick 'collision avoidance' message, but it should not turn into a pro-longed conversation on that channel.
@@patricklaine6958 I didn't know that...thank you. I thought 16 was strickly for emergency use only.
Your the best
Very kind of you Craig. Much appreciated (though I am very much just an 'intermediate level' sailor --- still learning every time go out). :-)
Real sailing!
Patrick,on one of your episodes you expressed interest on adding a sat phone? to your equipment to have access to weather reports,if I remember you left port and were out longer than your initial plan and the long term forecast did not cover the extra time.
Did you get it? what kind,what service did you choose and how did it work out?
I obviously value your opinions and experience.
thank you
David
David, if you watch episode 21 (I think) with me accompanying a professional delivery captain, I describe what I bought (Garmin InReach), why I bought it, and how it works. Good question.
Thank you very much,need to watch it again have missed your comments.
Your series is the only sailing I watch,not only enjoy your experiences also your style of sharing as well there is always some thing to learn,
Have been sailing for most of my adult life and cruised 4 full time years and feel never too late to learn new ""tricks"
Again,thank you for sharing.
David
Patrick, what kind of wood was in your ship? Very nice!
Thanks Randy. To be honest, I don't know the type of wood. It does look quite nice -- agree. !!
Wish I was on he boat with you, my dad is from Horta.
I had a very memorable trip to your father's home JR. Memories for a lifetime. Thanks for watching.
Patrick I am enjoying your videos just a tip to stop the wind noise get a yellow dish washing sponge tear off the green pan scarrer and hold some how over microphone it will cut out the wind noise making filming out side a breeze!
Spot on Simon. Someone else suggested that to me as well. I'll do better next Spring. I may even buy a different camera with a remote mic that can be protected with a dead cat. Thanks for watching. Appreciate your input.
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Love your videos but can I ask why the episodes are not in chronological order. I’m using oldest first.
Thanks Rob. The first few were out of order due to difficulties uploading while travelling abroad. After the first few, they are all in order. Thanks for watching.
I know this is an old video now, but I’ve just found your channel…. And enjoying the content.
As far as priority with the bigger ships is concerned, what rules or laws are you citing or using? I understand boats/ships under sail have priority over ships/boats under power, but I was also under the impression leisure vehicles, no matter how they are driven or powered, have to give way for commercial traffic.
Either way, you can be guaranteed a little friendliness and a polite tone can make negotiating an avoidance strategy much easier.
I heard a similar thing today at a sailing course and because I remembered this video from Patrick I had to research it. :)
The international collision regulations do not differentiate between commercial and leisure vessels.
Rule 18 of the ColRegs states the general order of priority:
a. Not under command / restricted in ability to manoeuvre
b. Constrained by draught
c. Fishing
d. Sail
e. Power
However there are two situations where this doesn't apply:
Narrow channels: According to Rule 9 (b) a sailing vessel shall not impede the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway.
TSS: According to Rule 10 (j) a sailing vessel shall not impede the safe passage of a power-driven vessel following a traffic lane.
@@martinsramek3837 Good follow up Martin, thanks 👍
I looked into it a little further too, after first posting the query….. much of the confusion seemed to be down to terminology, location, and interpretation judging by the answers I received from fellow sailors here in Oslo Norway.
I was told colregs only apply in international waters, and can vary a little locally/nationally….. the Norwegian coastguard specify for example that leisure vehicles should always stay a safe distance from commercial ships and boats along its coast…. Basically implying a give way situation. I was also informed Norwegian fjords are not necessarily classed as technically being “at sea”, especially the deeper or inner fjords. Another point made was how do you interpret a vessel’s manoeuvrability? Especially in a crisis situation? Has a local ferry limited manoeuvrability when following a given or specific route? How to determine a vessel’s draught etc etc etc.
The question, and the array of possible scenario’s were aplenty, so I decided it best to simply stay well clear of commercial vessels all together 😁….. along the coast at least
With your AIS, how do you manage with Murphy’s Law. You spend lots of time in the cockpit and the screen and the alarm are not there. Does the system come with one transceiver but a pair of screens and terminals?
I understand the comment, but it's really not a problem Ian. Life on a sail boat doesn't move that fast. I actually have an AIS repeater on my cockpit plotter, but I almost never set it up for use. Whenever I see a ship on the horizon, or every 15 minutes or so, a quick glance into the cabin salon tells me if another contact is approaching. (The AIS display lights up when there is a contact of interest. If nothing is potentially threatening, it is dark.)
Patrick Laine I’m glad you put it that way, Patrick. I am within a week of travelling halfway around the world to buy my boat in Europe to start my sailing venture and the equipment available seems endless. If you are not careful, I reckon you’d need a nuclear power generator to power it all. “Life is just not that fast on a sailboat” is music to my ears. Thanks for that Patrick.
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How much gas do you have to run those engines (for how many hours)?
Do you ever turn the engines off and if so, when?
I'm not sure why you are asking, but it has a capacity of 210 liters, which would give me a theoretical motoring range of about 450 NM. However, I rarely let the tank use more than 40 liters before topping it off again (to reduce condensation on the tank walls). When I go on very long passages, I carry an extra 100 liters in jerry cans, so that I can motor a long way should a disaster occur and I lose my mast. In operations, you usually turn the engine off as soon as you put the sail up, and then only run it for an hour or so every 18 hours, to recharge the batteries. If the wind drops to below ten knots, I often turn the motor on to assist the sails in providing power --- that is called motor sailing.
@@patricklaine6958 "I'm not sure why you are asking" lol good question!
Most of us who watch these sailing videos in open seas will never really get to experience what you do - so, it's always interesting to know various "what if" and "how to" scenarios even though we'll never experience it :D
And, since you take the time to answer some of these questions - it makes it all the more interesting!
Thanks again and cheers from Cleveland!
Did your broken (and removed) batten contribute to the leech flogging and failure on your mainsail you experienced later on?
BRAVO Larry. I do believe you are the first one to have remarked on that detail. Most just call me a fool for allowing the sail to flog and not having fallen off. They're probably right too. :-) An interesting aside --- when I got back to my home port I went to see the sailmaker (Elstrom) because this was the third time in a year that same batten had broken. They sent a technician to my boat, and he immediately recognised that the batten they were proving me was about 3 cm too short. They gave me a replacement free of charge cut to the right length. I have since put about 4000 NM on that sail and the batten has not failed again. Thanks for commenting.
@@patricklaine6958 Did they cover the cost of repairing the leech of that sail, or was it a no-fault situation? Was the short batten even the cause or a contributing cause?
The sail repair only cost €40. I was so relieved to find a professional sail repairman, that I just paid the cash and forgot the rest. The missing batten was certainly a major contributing cause to the main flogging at the very top --- but I still could have managed that situation better by falling off the wind just a bit more. As I said, I haven't had any issues with flogging / broken battens since the longer batten has been installed, but I also sail a bit more intelligently too. :-)
Technically I think your sailing vessel becomes a motor boat when you put your engine on. So that means you have to give way. Makes sense?
Well Carl, yes and no. :-) It is true that when you put the motor on, even if you still have the sail up, you become classified as a 'vessel under power'. However, that doesn't necessarily mean you must 'give way'. With vessels under power in a crossing situation, the one to starboard MUST 'stand-on' (maintain course and speed) and the other (the one to port) must give way. Technically, a sailboat under power is supposed to hoist an inverted cone, but it doesn't change the rules from what I describe above. Very few sailboats actually hoist that cone because it is added work, distracts from doing other more important things, and often doesn't change the 'right of way' rules. Great question.
Did you have a rock Of steamed barnacles in Horta? Their delicacy.
I didn't know that Alex. I'll give it a try the next time through. ;-)
Nicely done but only this episode and episode 12 show on your channel.
Thanks. I am seeing whether there is any interest before putting up others. No pretty girls or synchronized music.......... :-)
Hi Patrick
Don't worry about the absence of pretty girls, there are plenty of those out there, but often 'pretty' shallow too. It's the sincerity and message of the story that matters, followed by the quality of the presentation (sound and visuals). Nice demonstration of AIS and comms
Thanks for dropping by. I was impressed by the friendliness of the captain of Dina Trader in our crossing situation. Often the 'pros' just mutter about 'damn sailboats' getting in the way. He was great. I don't think there were any bikinis on his boat either. :-)
SV with the engine on has to give way to motor vessel in A.I.S.
Sir, I’ve just discovered your channel. I’m curious about the logo on your shirt. It appears to be a crest from University(?) from 1976.
Good catch Dan. US Naval Academy '76 -- and Stanford for the Masters. Fair winds.
@@patricklaine6958 thanks, sir. I’m an ‘84 grad from USMA.
@@fancher1959 Brothers in arms. I got out in '85 after a fantastic experience in Navy Air (and an exchange on French aircraft carriers). Hope your service was half as fun as mine was.
Do you mind if I ask what year you were born? It will influence my journey on the water.
I will be 67 in a couple of months. Fair winds to you.
Was your engine running while approaching the cargo ship? Hard to tell but it sounded like engine noise in the background. If so, you'd be under power rules vs. sail. Still the privileged vessel? Not 100% sure of the answer so thought I'd ask!
I think I turned the engine on in this case KD just as a precaution. Because of the wind, I didn't want to turn to port to avoid him at the last instant. (Turning to port to avoid is almost never a good idea anyway.) That said, even with the engine on, I was still the 'stand-on' vessel, as I was the one to starboard. Good catch.
I read your comment on sleeping on Samingo Sailing. I hope you don't collide with other yachts or fishing vessels that don't have AIS while you sleep, it's not just ships out there. I'll take a look at some of your other videos, nice boat.
Thanks for dropping by MJ and commenting on this difficult issue of solo sailors and sleep. In Episode 2 of my series of videos, I explain my process, context and rationale on this topic. I don't pretend that it is the 'right' answer; it will always be a compromise along one dimension or another if one is solo. (Samingo's videos to Norway are great aren't they?)
Most of my close encounters have been other yachts and fishing boats. It's not surprising when we are all going to or leaving the same places (yachts). GPS has made our routes quite a narrow corridor in a wide expanse of water. I watch some videos where the singlehander talks of going to bed for the night, I won't mention his name. I catnap for short periods 5-10 mins and carry this on through the following day as needed. I'll watch your videos from Ep 1.
You raise a good point about technology narrowing the corridors. I was an active pilot (aviation) for 35 years, and there is no doubt that the risk of collision increased dramatically with the introduction of GPS (compared to the previous generation of imprecise ADFs, VORs, TACANs, etc.). Congestion on commonly flown routes is now much more compacted.
You may not believe this but I had a UFO stationary above me at night on an Irish Sea crossing some years ago. It was less than 1000ft looked like a plane fuselage, lights inside, no wings. It suddenly shot off northward with an instant high speed, just about the only time (yet) I have been scared at sea. Have you seen Andy Lane's videos, also sails from France, worth watching.
Nah MJ, you were just hallucinating due to lack of sleep. ;-) !
Thanks or the tip on Andy Lane. I looked quickly at his site and subscribed. I like the 'just sailing' spirit of the Jester Challenge sailors. Real sailing with no string bikinis.
Question: Do you believe it's too late for a 50 year old to learn to sail and then set off on (much smaller trips than yours) trips around the Bahamas? Also the fact that your were a fighter pilot earns you the utmost respect.
50? I don't know…….that's a bit young to start. I waited another 10 years. ;-) I learned the very basics (what's a tack, what's a gybe, etc.) when I was 18, and then spent a lifetime in aviation. I only recently took up sailing seriously. I started by going out with a local professional instructor with a group of 3-5 others. Initially it was just for an afternoon, and then a weekend, and then a few week-long cruises up and down the French coastline. At that point I decided I really enjoyed this, so wrote a check and bought my boat. I then took the pro with me on my boat (solo) for a several day-sails to build my confidence. Then I started going out locally on my own, and then stretched that to some overnighters, and the rest is on video! (I also took ground school courses on weather, navigation, etc., but after 30+ years of flying, those subjects did not hold too many mysteries for me.) So yes Jack, at 50 you may just be mature enough to start sailing. :-)
Wow, that just made my whole weekend. Your the best, keep inspiring us.
I an 45 and Just bought my first sailboat a 24ft San Juan. My intention is to have my 17 year old son who was taught by the Royal Canadian Sea cadets teach me to sail. He unfortunately for me a very high achiever and is to busy getting great grades and being the Coxswain of his corps right now.... I will not let that stop me... so far I have solo sailed twice for a day and I am leaning everything I can from amazing people like yourself.
Today I learned that you are required to affect a Spanish accent when hailing another vessel on the radio.
I was taught the same, that in open sea a sailboat has right of way. But your motor was running, which makes you a motorsailer. And with that your priority is gone.
Yes and no Spasmomen. You are exactly right that when a sailboat is operating with its engine for propoulsion, it is subject to the 'vessel under power' rules. However, even under the 'vessel under power' rules, I was the vessel 'to starboard' in this situation, and thus the 'stand-on' vessel and the big cargo vessel was the 'give-way' vessel. I still had right of way. Two minor niggles to accompany that --- a sailboat with sails up and engine operating as propulsion is supposed to fly an inverted cone to signal that is subject to 'under power rules. Very few sailboats actually do that (including me) for reasons of safety or convenience. Secondly, sailboats often run their engines for reasons other than propulsion (to charge the batteries, or to heat water, or even just as a safety to back-up the sails under difficult circumstances), so having the motor on does not always mean 'subject to under power' rules. Great comment. Thanks for watching.
@@patricklaine6958 thanks for your answer. You are right, you came from starboard. Seeing some comments below, I thought some assuled you did it because you had your sails up. Not using the inverted cone can get you in trouble when meeting the sea police in the regions I sail in (Netherlands). Excellent videos by the way, we've been binge watching them.
When do you sleep?
It's covered in other episodes Allan. Whenever I can, I grab a few minutes here and there (and longer if blue-water offshore). When solo, you can't really sleep to a schedule -- due to traffic, navigation, lee shores, etc. When you see a moment of reduced stress, you grab it and get a bit of sleep!
Are you sure of that rule??
In Norway I think we have to give way to commercial wessels.
Well, this is what I have been taught....
By all means, I'm NOT professional ;-) But I have been on the water for 45y now.
Maybe Dad didn`t know it all ;-))
You make an interesting comment Anders. I read on another site that major sailing schools in the Southern hemisphere teach the same thing. Their rationale is that large commercial vessels, due to their size, displacement and inertia, are by definition impaired in their ability to maneuver, and thus sailboats should always maneuver to avoid. While this makes common sense, I'm 99% sure that it is not what is written or intended in the ColRegs, which is that except in restricted waters, or where the nature of the commercial vessels activity restricts its ability to maneuver, a sailboat should 'stand on' (maintain course and speed). I agree completely, however, that where common sense dictates that the sailboat should maneuver to avoid, it should do so VERY EARLY so as not to confuse the crew of the commercial vessel of your intentions. Otherwise, you are likely to hear 5 blasts on the ships horn....... :-) Thanks for watching.
This became a interesting case for me. Since I have been a motor boat man by
integer life. I`m now looking for a sailboat and the rules are bit different...
I read up on the law data. First..in the resume it say : All private cruser/ yacting must give way at any time to commercial vessels. But then I started looking for sailboat vs commercial vessels ....and even if I read this in Norweagen, its hard to make out ;-)
But, and you are right in what you are saying. But when you are crossing this (dont know the name in English) "Shipping line" Up and down big ship area.
And if you are under 20m (65,6feet) or a sailinboat you must do what you can to not interrupt the commercial vessel. Otherwise,- out on blue water, the commercial vessel must giv way.
So, it`s a borde line rule this one I think.
You did nothing wrong. You called him up (before he called you)
All happy campers ;-)
But I see people are discossing it on sailing bloggs in Norway also ;-)
Fair wind good man.
In the US the Tanker/Cargo ship has the right away, as well as Fishing vessels actively fishing.
The same thing I have learned.
But I have learned it as a motor boat skipper.
Are you on a sail or motor boat?
Hello Jason. Could you do me a favor and visit one of the instructors at a local sailing school and ask them. I'm almost 99% sure that they will respond that the ColRegs list the sailboat above cargo ships in terms of who needs to maneuver to avoid the other (obviously, with the exception of in channels or areas which restrict the larger power vessels ability to maneuver). I think that is the 'black and white' of the regs ---- now, there is also the 'common sense' judgement that says that although power vessels should maneuver to avoid sailing vessels, it's best to stay out of the way of the big guys. Fair winds to you, and thanks for contributing to the dialogue.
Another reason to install AIS: You can call a ship by name. I remember crossing the channel in pre AIS times at night. We had VHF but how do you explain to the 10 freighters in the dark, which one you think should take evasive action?
That's an excellent point. Those of us who took up sailing after the introduction of all of this new technology don't appreciate how challenging it must have been 'back then'.
Not a real expert on this, Patrick, but as I understand that if you are motor-sailing (I think I hear your engine running) you lose your sail “privileges”. With you motoring, with or without sails up, you are deemed to be a power vessel rather than a sailing vessel. In any case, regardless of the formal rules, the last thing I would advocate is taking on a ship with a 49 foot boat.
Yes Ian, if you are operating under power, then you must follow the same rules as all power vessels (as either the 'stand-on' vessel or 'give way' vessel depending on the circumstances. (Don't forget though, that sailboats often put on the engine to recharge batteries, not for propulsion.) I filmed a crossing with a ship today that was a bit tense. I was the 'stand-on' vessel, and the big cargo ship was required to 'give way' as per the rules I discuss the pros and cons of the situation, and why I maintained course and speed as predictably as I could. He finally changed course by 30 degrees. Not all agree with my view on this, and that's OK. I'll show it in a video soon.
Commercial crafts always have right of way over pleasure crafts? Thats how it is in Norway anyway.
No, not really Fred. There are a set of very formal international rules (International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea) that set out the procedures. Local governments can modify those rules such as you say in certain specific areas, such as very busy entrances to harbors, or where ferries operate with great frequency, but the rule that states that a sailboat is the 'stand-on' vessel applies in 99% of the worlds waters. Someone else once said the same thing as you, I think for Denmark. When he double-checked with a professional instructor, he learned that was not correct.
@@patricklaine6958 Thank you for your answer. to my question. I suspected it was like that, and it make sense in the open ocean. I dont think I will push my luck on it however! :-D I take this opportunity to thank you for your great videos, I just found your channel, and it is better than Netflix and HBO combined! :-)
@@patricklaine6958 I checked with a friend of mine who is a national nautical pilot, and he confirmed that the right of way for commercial crafts is a special Norwegian rule within national waters.
Fighter pilot? I can't get by that. That's not fair. Spain is still anti-American, post Spanish Armada and our "special relationship" with your native language folks. Spain piloted you in for the money and pull out which of course you didn't mention the cost. But I love your video. If a fighter pilot has problems.....I'll just watch. 40 years of sailing in Chesapeake Bay area.
I want to accuse this cat of sailing with his wallet not wits, but I don't care how much money you throw at it, sailing alone ain't no joke.
Uhmmm. Lost in translation. ;-)
Just saying I'm jealous of your electric winch, parking thruster, and Volvo Penta engine but I know those aren't the reasons you can sail the Atlantic alone.