Singlehanded Docking using Moitessier Stern Tie
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Recently I saw the clip • THE MOITESSIER STERN T... describing method of docking called “Moitessier stern tie” so I decided to try it on my boat.
00:13 The “Moitessier tie”
00:37 Casting the dock lines
01:25 Leaving the dock
01:54 Docking at the fuel dock
02:58 Leaving the fuel dock
05:01 Making the “Moitessier tie” line ready for the arrival
05:27 Approaching the slip
05:59 Docking
06:22 The boat is secure.
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Understanding Springs are a great asset, Suggestion: if intending to pull a line through a cleat after leaving .... Use a line that does NOT have a loop at the end. If that loop caught on the cleat or dock corner etc, with the boat in reverse your bow would swing violently to port faster than you can say "Crash".
I had this happen to me once -- it didn't have a loop on the end, but still got caught, which is why when going solo I hate pulling lines through a cleat like this. Always has potential to get caught. I ended up having to rear dock against the sterns of two other boats until I could get someone on land to untangle it a few mins later.
Great job with the courage to go solo and the editing... no wasted time for the viewer! This was informative and showed a step in the progression of a competent skipper to singlehanded confidence. Well done and thanks for putting this out there.
As others have said, use engine reverse to stop the boat, not the spring line. If you had missed the first cleat (like at the gas dock) you would have crashed your bow into the main dock. Here is a tip: Use a length of rubber hose (e.g. garden hose) threaded onto a large bowline loop. The hose keeps the loop open so you can drop it over the dock cleat with a boat hook. The hose will fold when the pressure of the engine is on the spring line. Run the line back to the deck, around the winch, and back to the wheel area so you can control the length. If you are coming into a known slip (e.g. your home slip) then you'll already know the length of line + loop that you'll need. Mark it with a whipping or some tape (which is a temp solution). After everything is secure you can remove the hose and tidy up the lines.
Brother, leaning over the lifelines while the boat is in gear and trying to catch the cleat is extremely hazardous, if you fall, you get smashed between the dock and your boat runs over you while your most likely tangled up in that line.
Better stoping or slowing with the engine rather than the boat cleat doing all the work. It will eventually damage your fingers or the boat. Ime roughly at the same learning stage , 27 ft boat and a 30ft finger pontoon means always an anxious return lol
agreed. that is such a comically awful pass at 2:17. So many awful things will eventually happen.
Bravo for being courageous and sharing!
I don't use a winch, but use a spring line looped back to itself from the midship cleat on boat.
I tend to come in A LOT slower, a baby crawl -- but have to increase if cross winds.
Only time I had issue leaving dock with similar technique is when I had 25kn cross wind blowing my bow off finger to neighbors boat.
better yet, pull up anchor, go sailing. i lived in the anchoage there for 6 years. i miss it ALL THE TIME. ❤
Great job . . . I single hand all the time, and the only comment I would make is that the bitter end of your landing line should not have a spliced eye in it. The eye can catch on the horn of the cleat when you are backing out of the slip. Better to have a clean bitter end with no eye or splice that can catch when backing out. Capt'n Dan
Indeed! I learnt that afterwards hard way :-)
Spring line is a standard docking method. Best used very slow speed, slower than idle using clutch in clutch out. More current more wind may require more or less depending on how you approach use them to your advantage . Carefully look at conditions and slow approach is the key .
Duncan Wells has some videos in his Stress Free Sailing videos demonstrating this. He calls it a stern bridle.
I am just starting to go solo. My strategy so far is to prepare all lines, forward, mid cleat and stern on both sides. This season there was always some one to take my line or help me cast off. I go as slow as possible. I might touch the neighbor boat but with zero speed and fenders at the correct height, there is no damage.
Thanks for posting. There have been some important comments. Use the engine not a line or cleat. They are not designed for shock load, such as you showed. The short dock line is not going to give enough stretch. Every boat handles differently and conditions vary. When I single on my boat I typically use the midship cleat when it’s super short, the stern and now cannot swing too far. I remove bow and stern, run the midship back to boat cleat. Once onboard I undo the line and flick off. I slowly back or drive out. Before getting fuel I call ahead if they can have some catch a line. Leave the line draped over lifeline so they can grab it.
I use a pre-tied bowline loop for my home berth on the end of my stern spring line set perfectly to keep me off the dock. I run it back from the bow cleat, then through a loop just forward of where your winch is to get that angle. I like the extra elasticity on the long spring line if I come in a bit too hot. Easier on the bow cleat and the stern dock cleat. Also note that you can use the helm to adjust the angle of the boat to the dock. When I put it in forward, I usually need to steer hard away from the dock to get my stern in. This will change depending on where you put the loop, but also depending on the wind. You need to play around. The pre-tied loop doesn’t always work when tying to other docks, so I keep another line for that.
Why come into the dock so fast? You are going in wayyyy too fast. Should stop the boat with the engine, drop on moitessier, then put in gear.
Yup, this is the method I use. Learned it about ten years ago. I basically stop the boat as I loop the cleat then put it back into forward
I also use this line-on-the-winch method to remove the dock lines for getting underway. I run it from my stern cleat, around the dock cleat then to the winch. The engine in fwd/at idle. I also use it to keep the bow from turing to stbd when backing when the wind is blowing on the port bow. (My boat's prop walk pushes the stern to port/bow to stardboard when backing). I haul in the winch, and when winch is parallel with dock cleat, release the stern cleat and pull the line inboard. I can actually "pull" the boat out of the slip with engine in neutral this way.
Yes I do similar, using my mid ship cleat . Back around pontoon cleat , back onboard to winch .On return have setup all ready , laso pontoon cleat , take up slack, engine in tickover forward ,tiller over to steer into finger and she will sit until I sort remaining lines , even if the wind tries to blow the bow off, just a few more revs to compensate
More fenders! Hell: ANY fenders!! 😝
Actually they are just not visible form this camera angle.
Boat hooks are designed to put ropes over cleats (Not just pick up ropes). Try the hook next time
that was always my fear as well, I ended up running spare lines from post to cleat on each side of the dock to make and X on my slip then ran a Y from the two front cleats held out of the water by the lines making an X...so worst come to worst I could get hte nose of the boat into the slip, as the lines making the X arrested the momentum, then pull on the Y to seat the boat by hand. The extra lines acted as padding, since my dock was straight up concrete. I was soloing a 40 foot Cal, in a really sheltered dock. I have seen guys brining in even bigger sailboats under sail and dock with no issues...but I never had that kind of skill. I also owned a 27 foot impulse race boat that was crazy light and much easier to man handle around. I could just park it more like a car..it did not have a ton of freeboard for the wind to interact with, nor alot of draft and it was over powered with a 20 hp engine. To be frank, THAT boat made me look better than I am.
This operation seems unsafe. You fasten the line to a dock cleat while the engine is in forward and you lean over the railing. If you miss the cleat the boat will go on forward, and you are not in control. This is what I suggest, prepare a spring line beforehand, fasten one end of the line to the aft cleat. Then lead the loop of the line "double line" around the winch (180 degrees), then outside of the railing, and back to the cockpit. When you arrive at the dock, stop the boat by reversing the engine. When the boat has stopped, put the engine in neutral. Using a boathook, get the loop of the line around a dock cleat, both ends going around the winch, take up the slack and fasten the loose end of the line to the aft cleat of the boat. Then put the engine in slow ahead. Now the boat is under control and you didn´t have to leave the cockpit to achieve this. You can now leave the cockpit in order to fasten the other lines.
Really good advice
i like the way under power the mid spring line acts as a hinge keeping the bow in
And if he's tying up to starboard and gets a spring on, leaves the engine in ifle forward and puts the rudder to port the boat should lie along the jetty.
Drives me crazy when dock hands insist on bow lines.
I use spring lines on my 72 footer all the time. I do not have thrusters and can leave a dock single handed.
I am 7 feet higher than the dock so I do need help coming back. Once the spring is on I just go back in gear then do all the other lines
.this guy has to learn to use neutral and drift more
It would have been cleaner to leave the fuel dock using the bow spring and a fender to ease your stern away before reversing.
Yes, need to practice this move
These are simply midship springs.
Can I recommend dropping your line over the cleat using a boat hook?
And if you only catch the one I for this purpose when you reverse off the loop will fall off the cleat and you can pull it in at your leisure as it is a relatively short loop unable to get to the prop
You need to give some rudder to port is normal spring line 😊
did not realize that the center spring line is called "Moitessier tie". that said, it works well. however since you are running the engine.. why not use it to remove energy from your boat?
leaving the fuel dock seemed very precarious. maybe instead while on spring, use the engine to push the stern more in and let the bow swing port.. then engine out when it gets to about 45deg.
The boat ahead of me was quite close (the fish eye camera doesn't show it) and the wind was blowing from the stern, so I was quite afraid to go forward.
Snagging the cleat is easy on a boat with low freeboard. Not easy on one with the freeboard typical on a 35 footer.
So true -- my freeboard is a few feet above the floating dock ;)
You need to go slower , having the engine in gear and trying to catch a cleat at the same time is dangerous.
Check out how to lasso a cleat - works a charm with the stern bridle .
Thanks for taking time to make the video “every day on a boat is a school day”
Slow is pro
yeah no, to fast, still in gear while securing the line on the cleat, didn’t spring off at the fuel station to get a good angle. Start getting more control of your boat under engine.
If I’d have done these manoeuvres I’d not post them on RUclips until I’d practiced some more.
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I did it with a boat neighbor a couple weeks ago and it's a neat and handy docking tool. My question is will it work docking to port as well as to starboard or does the prop direction play a role as well?
Pretty much a mid ship cleat idea but not at that speed. Moitessier had many ideas not all good.
"Moitessier had many ideas not all good."
Abandoning a pregnant wife being one of them.
Hmmm, no wind no perceived current. Making a mountain out of a mole hill....
Your engine sounds rough...knocky/thumpy.... is it a single cylinder? Check engine mounts.
Ok, it's an aft spring tied off on the boat and some French man has stuck his name on it?
Gotta love the audacity.
And what did you call the line from the front of the boat to the dock?
A bowline is a type of loop tied in the end of a line.
A bow line goes forward from the bow of the boat to stop the boat from drifting backwards.
So dangerous in so many ways. At 5:58 leaning over the lifelines at any stage but to do it when you have motor engaged, an unmanned helm and the chance to fall between the boat and the dock has disaster written all over it. My personal view is that this video should be taken down so no one tries to do these maneuvers. Like others, have said it can all be done in a safe manner by using normal motor and rudder control.
Just dock reverse
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Stop boating
Spring line is a standard docking method. Best used very slow speed, slower than idle using clutch in clutch out. More current more wind may require more or less depending on how you approach, use them to your advantage . Carefully look at conditions and slow approach is the key .