How Mother 3 Breaks You
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Here is a video where I talk about baths. Oh, and also about Mother 3 (sequel to Earthbound), one of the most beautiful and heart breaking games of all time.
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Mother 3s Development:
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Translation project:
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Mother 3 cancelation/ not getting localized:
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www.nintendolife.com/news/201...
mother3.fobby.net/interview/
Itoi as a copy writer:
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General:
earthboundcentral.com/2009/03...
www.polygon.com/2016/6/6/1187...
yomuka.wordpress.com/2013/08/...
Nana Fanart:
Lucas and nana in water (first image)
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A cute thing in the beginning of the game is that if you sprint into the mother from behind she gets startled and says something like "AAAAH I SURRENDER" and gives you a cookie.
Edit from 2 years later: I have been informed that she gives you bread actually
I think the ramming mechanic was supposed to be bigger than it ended up. Notice that most interactions with it are in the first few chapters.
and now i will cry
itoi why must you hurt me like this
Cool
It’s actually Nut Bread (NO!)
Mother 1: Sequels are rarely as good as the original.
Mother 2: _Oh really?_
Mother 3: *Yeah.*
Mother 1 is better than both.
@@joaonitro5149 I would have to disagree. Mother 1 just seems like a more limited-gameplay, less good-looking, less theme-heavy, less tone-heavy, and overall less story-heavy as EarthBound. And Mother 3 is just an improvement of that with their intircate gameplay system, a fixed inventory system and shopping system, and just an overall BETTER story. Of course that's just my opinion, if you like Mother 1 the best, I can't argue with you there.
@@LittleNamMan Mother 1's story is much better than Mother 2's. Mother 2 is about the wacky things that happen along the game, so it's story is more basic than Mother 1's.
@@joaonitro5149 While I will say Mother 2 is MOSTLY less serious than Mother 1, that doesn't make it a worse story. The game has more themes than just "fight Alien, save world". You're given an insight as to how threatening a force Giygas is, and the story is set up in a way to make you feel like you're going on a journey that forces you to grow up and become something more in order to fight something greater. The only key part in Mother's story is Giegue's relations with his earth parents, but that is just one story aspect that focuses more on him than the main characters we are with throughout the story. And Giygas' tale in Mother 2 seems WAY more tragic to me. He gave into power so much that he can no longer think rationally. He literally asks Ness to "Help" him, and it's very heartbreaking and scary at the same time. It also deals with the relationship between Ness and Pokey. Pokey really just wants to impress you throughout the story, and constantly tries to help out until he asks you if you want to make up and be friends again, which when you say nothing, he just says "Just kidding" and runs off. And he clearly took that to heart as when you play Mother 3 and find a specific item, it's an item called "Friend's Yo-Yo" which is clearly Ness' own yo-yo. He still wanted to call Ness his friend even after everything he went through with you in Mother 2. It's very sad, and even the sillier moments in the story have some semblance of weight to them. Even the "prayer" that you have to do in the end to defeat Giygas feels more impactful than the Eight Melodies used in Mother 1 to defeat Giegue. It's just a better story in my opinion.
@@LittleNamMan you really wrote an entire essay and while I don’t agree with you that much that deserves some fuckin respect lmao
“Lucas doesn’t know what to do anymore” is one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever read in a video game
2:06 stopped watching and disliked, another woke furry youtuber talking nonsense lol
"You must be so exhausted" is the most heartbreaking line in any game, in my opinion.
FR
If I ever became an actor that scene is what I’d use to cry on command, goddamn.
I got a tattoo of Claus with that line. Breaks me everytime
I am crying
It's really weird, usually a character mentioning someone else being tired before they pass away hurts quite a lot
Happened to me when i was 16 and played mother 3 and happened again this year with uh... Spoilers for RECENT GAME
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Persona 3, I already knew what was going to happen but the bonds I formed and I left behind made me so sad
how mother 3 break mother fans: it doesn't have a official english version
**Pain**
I don't Care about that....Im will play the Romantic hack Unofficial English Version.....
Not watching those video
@@mrnoob-333 that's kinda of the official english version nintendo didn't take down any of these mods so i guess they know people gonna use them anyway
Ok bro this is the 15th year of this joke getting used repeatedly and I’m so god damn sick of it already lol
"43 minutes is too long"
Jokes on you, i'm into this shit.
You son of a bish, I’m in 👉
It could have been 30 minutes.
I wanna give this a like but 69 likes already
@@theoneupwarrior94 Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
@@Davaroni now its 96!
One of the saddest things about Mother 3 for me is the panning shot of the cliffs right after Flint gives up looking for Claus after one last excursion--and he's right there. If Flint had looked for just one minute longer, he would have found his son and prevented literally all of this from happening. Claus' fate was wholly preventable and while you're fighting for everything in the last moments of the game, in another sense you're fighting for no reason at all. It's truly depressing.
absolutely oh my god. that broke me and its awful how sweet little Claus got turned into a literal machine thats committed all sorts of evil and he doesnt even know his own identity.
that was not his last excursion, it was just that the pigmasks took him
this is why you should never stop gambling when you re told to. it s the exact moment before you ll make it big!
"99% gamblers quit before hitting jackpot"
I don't know why but the message "hey world! Be nice to John!" Is what made me cry
I felt the exact same time
i didnt cry, but i found it beatiful
like a caress to the soul
it's sounds so naive and yet so wise
Like if things could be so simple. Reminds me of when at school you "fight" with another kid, and the teacher says that to you/him. And of course you obbey, and thats just it. All friends
That’s exactly how I felt
There's something deeply touching about videogames breaking the fourth wall to talk to the player, in my opinion. Final Fantasy XIV's Endwalker toes this line at times, as well, not to mention how your help, as in, the player, ends up being fundamental in Earthbound/Mother 2. It's strange how fictional characters can be more comforting than real people.
That time where the drug trip made Lucas imagine his dad telling him he was the reason his mom died. Absolutely fucked up.
Itoi said he read a novel that had an influence on the game's scenario/script and without spoiling too much the novel is about twin brothers and the complete detoriation of their family
EDIT: the novel is called The Notebook by Agota Kristof and the narrators of the novel are called Lucas and Claus
@@islandboy9381 whoa!
Spoilers
What gets me is the island revealing that Lucas feels guilty for everything he’s done. He feels bad for every enemy he has to defeat along the way.
There's also that part at the start where Lucas confides that he had made a wish that Hinawa wouldn't punish him anymore. And he feels like that makes it his fault, since his wish was granted but in the worst possible way
2:06 stopped watching and disliked, another woke furry youtuber talking nonsense lol
Flint lashing out in grief and rage is the REALEST shit, and I've never seen any other game capture this.
It's the scene that hooked me on the game, that's for sure.
@@Renoistic Definitely me as well.
Who tf starts beating up their friends and neighbors due to grief
@@9_debolati_318 violence as a response to grief is pretty common but its mostly domestic. in our society we aren't usually very close to our neighbors, but in this game they are.
@@9_debolati_318 Maybe you haven’t experienced intense, abrupt grief yet?
Having the closest people to you ripped from you in the most unfair, and guttural fashion might make you want to smack people who tell you to “calm down” or break a few useless pieces of furniture. It’s physically more than we can handle as people.
C O M O T E R O M P E L A M A D R E 3
Guille referencia
@@Mxnu.xyz. Lindo gatito
@@AndreaPancakes gracias¿
I lost a brother a long time ago. I feel like breaking every single day, but the memory of my brother being buried pulls me back everytime. When Claus said "I'm going to where mother is. I'm sorry." I cried so damn hard, i know that almost no one is going to read this, but if you do i hope you're doing ok.
And to my brother: I'll never ever forget about you. I'll live, i'll smile and i'll cherish your memory every single moment of my life.
Have a good life everyone.
I hope you're doing well, dude. Thanks for your message of positivity.
You too, dude. You too. I hope you can find peace in your self.
Cant lie, that made me tear up.
May he rest in peace.
And also, good luck out there with all the stuff life throws at you. Sometimes, its really fucking hard. But as said in this video, i think still pushing through and living your life is honestly what it means to be human.
that got really sentimental there haha but seriously good luck with everything
Rest in peace. Hope you’re doing well.
Sorry for your loss, I lost my mom 14 years ago and my brother 6 years ago. I just finished this game and also started crying.
It's a crime that this game wasn't released in America
didn't they eventually release it in America on like the Wii u
That was a Japanese version. Not American
It really is. The art is amazing. Music is moving. Mechanics are super fun. The story is super cool and heartbreaking.
I just don't understand, Nintendo :(
Watch out ur comment may interpret in wrong way
I played a fan translation bootleg cartridge a friend gave me as a gift. But if they did release it in a North American or global release, it wouldn't surprise me if they made it rated M, or at least T. It's one of my favourite games, to the music, the characters, the game mechanics, the way something just makes so unsettling, yet adventurous and still hopeful. Masterpiece, the whole trilogy long story is brilliant and is totally due for a remaster collection or something.
I never took "no crying until the end" seriously but by God, it's serious.
Oh, it is very serious.
We weren't ready...
Flints' animation when he is told his wife is dead is so....
you can almost feel the absolute heartbreak through the screen and how he keeps up that tough, closed off mask by pushing the woman away who wants to comfort him so he can grieve alone, like a man.
“Like a man” meaning you gotta do everything alone is a really toxic mindset though. Men shouldn’t push each other to suppress their emotions in order to appear “manly”, it’s not healthy.
@@xyz7572
No but it showcases how easily he goes into that mentality, not just based on the design of the sprite as a "American man" but how his very first, instinctive action was to push the first person who wanted to help him through his grief and walked away from people who love him to probably drown his sorrows.
You can see how his movement is just dripping with agonizing pain and misery. All of his muscles is tense, but the way he swings towards the other people feels so unfocused and almost flimsy, with no real intent to harm his friends and rather to just swing at something, like hurting this world will let him get revenge for the world taking his wife away.
@@sugarkane1571
Yes. Perfectly put. It's a very visceral, raw, very human reaction done very well given the graphical limitations.
One little thing I think you should’ve mentioned
After the end plays, you see the title screen again, the screen is natural, made of wood and earth, rather than machine as it was before.
Lucas's reborn world
i remember playing this game, completely blind, and naming the characters after my real family. that shit fucked me up 10/10 beautiful game
Damm that’s making me really wanna play it, where/how do I download it?
@@benito8596 you can on Gameboy advance emulators on smartphones or pc
@@Yuca31 Thanks
Thank god I named them with a bunch of funny names, altought that deleted the seriousness a little bit
I know man... I know...
I always knew the Undertale was heavily inspired by Mother, but I don't think I ever fully got what that meant until now. The descriptions of Mother 3's little quirky characters and facets, and little pointless moments that only exist for you to have experienced a goofy thing. The evolutionary tree is SUPER visible to me now.
It's incredibly direct, yeah. Same with LISA. I feel like Omori is somewhere down that tree too.
Undertale kinda has more in common with Mother 2 IMO
@ATripToMars Earthbound has much the same philosophy, so it's more like an evolutionary split between Undertale and Mother 3
@@walesjedi9217 there are a lot of things in undertale that are a reference to earthbound more than mother 3
@@IAm-zo1bo of course, Toby Fox is a massive Earthbound fan. that doesn't mean that the point doesn't stand, Mother 2 and 3 have the same philosophy and Undertale was inspired by that
I think the part that fucks me up the most is when Hinawa says to Claus “you must be so exhausted.”
Even after all he did, his mom loved him so much that she was just worried about how he was feeling.
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30% of the comments: C O M O T E R O M P E L A M A D R E 3
You know this game is important when someone like Terry Crews tweets Nintendo for them to release an English version of Mother 3.
Glad to see him get in line with us.
How does Terry Crews tweeting about it make it important?
@@KingRumar agreed.
Terry Crews is such a chad.
Didn't know he liked RPGs. He seems like a Madden type of gamer. That's cool
SEW: "Yes, I love all the main characters in Mother 3 equally, like Lucas, Kumatora, and *checks smudged writing on hand* Duste.
John hates Boney confirmed???
Sew: cw in description and also my opinions on a scene
*Link is broken*
@@vintheguy works for me 🤷♂️
@@Jigkuro
Now it's not
Guess he fixed it
Putting Porky's motivation as the nihilistic desire to escape all feeling very much draws a parallel to Giygas, who was defeated in EarthBound Beginnings because the feelings he had towards his adoptive mother Maria overwhelmed him and in turn and forced him to cease his invasion. Following that, Giygas sought to completely eradicate these feelings, which he finally achieved by the time EarthBound takes place, having obliterated his mind as well.
Porky takes a different turn. He has always experienced bad feelings towards him. His parents are abusive and he is not well-liked by anyone. All feelings he's ever received are negative, so that is why he wants them (or "everyone who doesn't like him", as he puts it) gone.
And this, to me, is the core philosophy about this series of video games. They're about feelings, emotional experiences, be they happy or sad or unsettling, and accepting them all as part of what makes the world the way it is and what makes us human. And that is why the villains, Giygas and Porky, are fundamentally opposed to this concept.
concerning porky and giygas, i think it's safe to say that the true antagonists of mother 1 and 2... are the fathers, namely George, and Aloysius minch.
George's curiousity, became greed, and he stole PSI knowledge from giygas's alien race, abandoning his wife to the aliens that both kidnapped them, and setting giygas's mission to invade earth.
And Aloysius abusive mistreatment of his family and children, shapped porky into the vengeful and greedy monster he became. (the japanese version even said that aloysius was straigh up beating his own children
@@Shuyin781 this Main Comment and this reply are some of the best comments on the entirety of RUclips
Then I have the right to say one of my worst comments...
Porky just like me fr
Porky has a horrible character, but he has amazing development. I both love and hate this mf
Como Te Rompe La Madre 3 🗿
Me and my younger brother are pretty close, my younger brother has blond hair and is very shy and timid
I have brown hair and I've always been an energetic troublemaker
So of course I named the twins after us
Little did I know that this choice would emotionally destroy me over and over
Yikes
Big Oof
oh man...
I feel it
I am a big bro
and I will kill my sister if she takes my swets
but she can have my kidney
Ah... I wish I could feel that way about my own older "brother."
Sadly, not all family bonds are meant to last nor be strong for that matter. So hold your good bonds close, yeah?
i did the EXACT same thing when i was a kid 😬
Something I like about Porky's character design is that he looks like he's on the brink of death and laying on a deathbed
He’s basically a living corpse
ah you mean the **absolutely safe capsule?**
No he a diabetic baby with a goatee
Good.
Reminds me of Zero from MGS 4's ending. A complete vegetable but started the whole chaos of the series
Dammit, I teared up again when you showed the scene where Claus embraced Lucas and Lucas "remembered Claus' smell." I don't know why that particular line fucking breaks me, but it does. It's just... It's so full of joy and closure. It implies that Lucas had forgotten what that smell was over the 3 years since Claus disappeared, and the fact that it's called out, to me, says that Lucas was really bothered that he couldn't remember. But right before the end, just before he'd lose that chance to relearn what having his brother around was like, Claus wakes up. And the first thing that Claus does after waking up from Porky's control... is hug his brother. It's just so fucking beautiful and that one moment perfectly encapsulates Mother 3's themes. It's art. And I'm so glad that the fan translation exists.
It’s such a painful line to me because personally i connect that with death. once someone’s dead you don’t have their smell anymore to comfort you and lucas is smelling him for the first time in ever… idk ,, its so painful ,, Like i know they have forgotten their mother’s smell.. but he gets to experience claus’ again
I feel like scent is one of the few things you can never physically record someone with. A person’s face can be recorded in pictures, their voice in recordings, their mannerisms in videos, the feel of their hair in locks of hair. But with smell, even with old clothes, the scent will fade away with time. And yet, scent is what gives us the most comfort and memory.
No it just means he remembers how Claus smells. He didn't ever forget
@@sugarkane1571 I literally cannot smell, maybe that's why I can't remember some people that I feel like I should know.
It’s such a raw feeling and line, but if you’ve lost someone it’s totally something you can connect with.
English speakers: 😢
Spanish speakers: 🤣
Como te rompe la madre 3 😂
😂😂😂
“Your brother was just hasty, you’ll forgive him won’t you ?”
I hate that line almost as much as “you must be so exhausted.” The waterworks burst OPEN.
@@TheNintenfan64 You Must Be Exhausted breaks me. Such a good line
When were those two lines explained? You care to explain?
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You want forgiveness? Get religion.
That Absolute Safety Capsule, is easily the most terrifying thing in any game to me.
Immortality is a bottomless well of the deepest kinds of terror when you really start thinking about it.
@@painovoimaton Honestly, if I could have it, I would take immortality with the obvious risk of outliving existence itself.
But... being stuck inside a small pod with no guarantee whether or not it will actually keep you safe "forever?"
If that was the price for immortality, I would not do it.
very “eventually, kars stopped thinking.”
@@JackiW Thing is, you WOULD outlive existence. And after that, it would be exactly how Porky ended up. Infinity is hard to comprehend, and the time an immortal would spend existing in our universe is literally nothing compared to the post-universe infinity.
@@painovoimaton reminds me of that short story by Stephen King called "the jaunt"... so spooky
I am so glad I played the English fandub on emulator with no prior knowledge about it.
The best rpg I have ever played. My favourite part has to be the arc where Duster loses his memory, joins the band as Lucky, gets reunited with Lucas' party but then still plays the final song with his band. It's really touching to see how he acknowledges both the two lives he has lived and appreciates the people he has been with.
Duster? I think you mean *Duste*
Fandub is from dubbing, when they do a dubbing reinterpreting the dialogues of a actor translated
In this case it is not a dubbing, it is only a translation
Your last sentence kind of reminds me of a certain party member in Omori, which doesn’t surprise me as it’s yet another game heavily inspired by Earthbound/Mother. Jesus, I’m pretty sure “Earthbound-inspired” is its own genre now. What a game.
One of my favorite parts of the game is how ambiguous “the dragon” is. I think EVERYONE can interpret the dragon in their own way, based completely on what their main takeaway from the game was. I personally think the dragon represents hope, the idea of moving forward past the sadness and trauma and learning to keep loving life, just as I imagine Itoi does. I don’t think there are many wrong answers to what the dragon is, and that’s just a fucking beautifully executed ending.
The last "I'm sorry" Claus gives to Lucas is the most devastating and soul crushing "I'm sorry" I have ever seen or experienced on any medium.
Man I wish I took this game seriously when I started, because Klaus using “PK Balls” made me laugh my ass off when I definitely was not supposed to
naming the characters
my dude
my guy
my man
the dog
was a mistake
@@rubub8455 Which one of those is Kumatora?
@@grizzlyowlbear3538 my guy
@@rubub8455 wait who was Claus
@@bulbouspiranha758 my homie
You’re not pixels. You’re a ghost. You’re a memory. You’re a story someone left, a message and moment in time preserved, to reach out to others beyond your mortal limits.
Como te rompe la madre 3
Jesus fuck man this video did things to me I can’t explain but I’m happy they happened
Agreed. It feels like my perception of life isn't the same anymore.
Hol' up, JOHN HILL what you doing here.
Woah John didn’t expect to see you here and so recent! What’s up my guy!
Pause 😂
how are you not verified
The “you must be exhausted” is one of those quotes that I think about and just cry. So many emotions went into playing this game when I was young and that one just gets me every time.
Yeah it tears me apart everytime i hear it, but the only thing that comes close is either “Despite everything it’s still you.” “I just don’t wanna let go.” “Don’t you have anything better to do.” That inter thought, and those two Asriel, quotes are on the same level, as that quote from Mother 3, though it also makes me think of when Asriel, went back to the underground all beaten, and injured, and Toriel, and Asgore, might have said that to him, and hugged him with tears in there eyes before he turned to dust, sorry if that’s depressing.
What kills me about the game is "Lucas Remembered Claus's smell", because of how much I relate to it.
The "Lucas wanted to cry" was the line that just did it for me and got me to cry so hard.
Theres a lot of points in this game that madr me tear but that line, for some reason just broke me so hard.
I think "I'm going to see mother now" and "Claus took mortal damage" are both fantastic tear-jerkers for me. They drive home that Claus was never the bad guy, he wished he could've been with us instead
That one and “Lucas remembered how Claus smelled” gets me every time
Este video sí me rompió la madre 3 😢💔✨
me rompieron la madre 3
So the part you couldn’t talk about actually isn’t what you thought it was. It’s just supposed to be the magypsy giving Lucas his psychic powers but Itoi didn’t know how to show that so he decided to black it out and be left up to interpretation. The way he did it though definitely made it feel like something sexual and I don’t blame people for thinking that’s what happened. Yeah, they are naked in the hot spring but that’s mostly because of its symbolism in Japanese culture for purity. Itoi’s done something similar before in Earthbound where Ness is naked in Magicant but the English localization gave him his pajamas for the American release. Hope this clarifies a few things.
I’m pretty sure the magypsy is just baptizing Lucas.
@@hackpo1015 I still believe he is partially drowned. To overcome the feat of close death and Awakening a power inside of him.
@@PopADoseYo Went better for him than it did Booker DeWitt.
@@danielgiovanniello7217 haha very true lol
Thank you.
That "I'm gonna beat you boy, daddy's gonna beat you." Got to me and I felt so uncomfortable and frightened. Truly the idea of a world where all your loved ones hate you is terrifying, but it's sadly a reality for some.
i kinda laughed that it ngl
I wouldn’t call it loved ones, if that happens. I think one important thing is, that you don’t have to have a good relationship with someone, just because they are family. I don’t say this, because of private reasons, since I have a pretty good relationship with most of my familymembers, only one not being good, but getting better since the last few years.
@@rubub8455 Same lol it sounds hilarious out of context
@@tomwanders6022loved ones can be shit, or turn out to be shit. my favorite uncle completely changed after my dad died, and turned into a real asshole in his later years.
i dont love him less. he is a loved one forever, even if he is not the LOVING person he once was to me.
loving ones dont hate you. loved ones might.
bro i got a kind of feeling like ...i dont wish it on my enemies even if they broke my femur
its that fucked up
The entire game is a therapy session where the entire cast then sits down with you and asks "Hey... are you doing okay? Things will be okay, there's a light for you at the end of the tunnel, we believe in you" And I just.... I can't. I just can't.
The craziest thing about the theme of Mother 3 is how the scraped content reflects this message of "this life could have been so much better with so much less suffering", most notably in Clauses case. Claus has the most unused sprites in the game and even the fact you can play as him in the prolog gives this immersive sense that a much better outcome could've happened without Porky showing up and that is most unique parallel I have seen in any story based game, intentional or not.
This may actually be because in Mother 64, iirc it was actually intended for Flint to go missing and potentially end up as an antagonist.
@@ApexGale I'm glad that wasn't how it played out in the end.
Itoi said in a interview that he was gonna make the ending much more of a betrayal and even keep more things in the dark before he grew up as he described. Consider that for a moment.
Cómo te rompe la madre 3
If this was the height of the Mother 3 fandom, "Duste" would be a fandom meme with a deluge of fan-art and fanfic for at least 3 months.
I- I’m going to draw duste
Everyone drawing normal Mother 3 scenes except everyone misremembers his name as "Dusté" and he gets really frustrated by that.
@@katesneddon5095 Please share a link if you choose to draw Duste. I would love to see it!
Duste sounds like one of those parody character Miis like Lonk or Petch
Claus’s fate is so heartbreaking to me. I don’t believe he had a choice in where he ended up, as he was pretty clearly experimented on and brainwashed. Just all the comments on him being completely empty, Porky referring to him as a “toy”...and then in the end the only way out is death for him. I feel for him, and for Lucas.
It's even extra reinforced by the battle mechanics when you fight him. Throughout the entire game, you can put enemies to sleep and it will allow you to hear their "heartbeat", which follows the rhythm of the music and allows you to do combo attacks if you time your presses properly. In the final battle, you can put Claus to sleep and... there's nothing. He has no heartbeat. He has no *heart*. He's just a mindless, empty puppet acting out Porky's cruel ambitions. He doesn't even have any feelings for Lucas, not even hatred; he just wants to remove the last remaining obstacle to the Needle because that's all his existence *is*.
@@Altrivius i just want to add that some people think claus doesnt have a heartbeat simply because he's brainwashed, but personally I always thought it was because he was already *dead.* He's not meant to even be "alive" in the state that he is as the Masked Man, which is why I believe he, well... did what he did at the end of the final battle.
Claus was being rash in trying to go on a vengeance quest on his own against the metal robot, much like what Flint does later on as well, that made him already end up technically dead before Porky even picked him up. This wasn't just about Hinata's death but Claus coming to terms with his own state as well after help from Lucas, Flint and Hinata together.
@@kagome1017 That is reinforced by Hinawa's plea for him to finally rest. What remains of his old self inside of his dead, brainless body has to be awakened for him to deliver the final blow and stop hurting his brother. Even in-game it is highly theorized that he has been already dead, since aside of some unused sprites (such as the chimerization of his dead body) even Porky says so. After all, Porky just needed his ability to push the needles, not his alive-self.
@@meicalcreigiau2346 exactly this! and also realistically, there is no way for claus to have survived the fall off of the cliff in chapter 1. while it might not seem like a great distance in game due to the artstyle and graphical limitations, i'd imagine it would have been quite the fall. plus he'd most likely already been hurt from the mechadrago itself.
The part with Ionia in the hot spring...I think Ionia just made Lucas hold his breath until he was at the brink of death, awakening his PSI and saving him. There are moments in the dialogue where Lucas comes up to breathe, but Ionia forces him back into the water.
That's how I always interpreted it as well. Ionia deliberately triggers Lucas's fight-or-flight response to manifest his PSI powers. Shigesato Itoi isn't even transphobic and has stated before that he has transgender and non-binary friends and he sees them as exceptionally brave people.
im just gonna remind all of you that having [insert minority] friends would not just suddently stop someone from perpetuating racist, homophobic, transphobic etc stuff, albeit subtly (its hard to not when you lived in a society that has ingrained those worldviews) what yall could do to stop those things is to listen to lived experiences and unlearn those thought patterns and behaviours
im not saying the interpretation of this scene is wrong i just want to reiterate on a point the previous commenter mentioned
@@AluminumFusion22 And his interpretation of the Magi are actually really cool. You see these genderqueer characters that hold both masc and fem characteristics but not in a negative light. They’re heroes. They’re selfless heroes that you feel bad about getting rid of. I personally (other than the name) love the magi- A Agender Person
@@AluminumFusion22 Hmmmm, the bravery part in endangering a child so they can have their PSI awakened... Itoi was ahead of his time.
Itoi has stated several times he has nothing but respect for the lgbtq+ and he wanted to include people of all walks of life in his game i.e. the magypsies, cripples like duster with his limp, etc
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I think this is actually the only time I've ever seen someone acknowledge the fact that Lucas can start attacking Claus after Flint gets hit
I wished he also mentioned that Hinawa will respond to you doing so. Then I realized there was just a million subtleties in this fight that I cherish and I don't want to be a dumb nitpicking nerd about something so beautiful.
I think it speaks volumes to how emotionally impactful Mother 3 is when the game gives you an option to strike back but most players tank the hits anyway because of how powerless and exhausted they feel.
@@Skallva negative man taught us a lesson
Yeah, after Claus used PK Love on Flint knocking him out, I also used PK Love and was surprised Lucas actually used it. It was as if we were thinking the same thing in that moment, in that he hurt your father and so you must fight back.
Shoutout to whoever decided to put Claus and Hinawa as the final spirits in World of Light
Fitting
Yeah. We can’t just be physically exhausted after ten hours of stripped-down event matches, we gotta get emotionally BROKEN before playing as Master Hand builds us back up.
It was probably Sakurai the man such a chad
Probably the most justice the mother series has gotten from nintendo besides of course bringing back lucas and ness for ultimate.
WoL has no chill.
@@smartstuf1026 And Earthbound for the Wii U
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Before even hearing SEW’s take, I need to praise the translation team. They did such a wonderful job, and I don’t think they’ll ever get the full credit they deserve for making it possible for so many people to play and fall in love with this beautiful and tragic game.
I mean, they did a much better job at translating than Nintendo's actual localization team probably would.
@@bionicdragon5 that's kinda harsh. People working on official localisations are talented and passionate people too. They're under a lot of corporate deadlines etc though. Idk how this translation was made but when it comes to fan made stuff, they kind of have all the time in the world to be more throughout.
@@Pavlinka__ I don't mean to rip on the actual people who work on it, even though I did write it in a derisive way.
The main problem I find with Nintendo's localization is that the company doesn't put enough budget into the department.
For instance: I'm a big fan of Pokemon, and while Pokemon's dialogue is translated very well, with little to no grammatical or formatting errors, it still comes off as a little awkward and stunted.
A little more funding, or at least longer deadlines would make all the difference.
That's why I'm ripping on Nintendo's translation game.
It's the company itself that I take issue with.
This man just out-hyperbole'd John 😳
Mother 2 and 3 spoilers, you were warned:
One thing that struck me about the game was the main antagonist: King P and his characterization. He is supposed to represent all of humanity's vices and it shows. His nihilism is so absolute, everything he does is for a lark. The destroyed bonds, the ruined lives, the societal corruption he caused, the people that suffered and died through his actions, the animals and other creatures he experimented on, the evironmental destruction of the only habitable place on the whole world, he doesn't care; it's all a game and he is bored, because he never mentally grew up.
To think that Porky Minch would get even _worse_ from betraying Ness, the only one to tolerate him, to side with Gyigas just to erradicate "all the people that don't like [him]" in Mother 2. He apparently gained immortality without youth as a consequence of abusing time travel and is stuck with the mentality of a spoiled brat, yet has the cunning and experience of his true age: so old that _he can't even remember how old he is._ His final fate being willingly sealing himself in a device called the "Absolutely Safe Capsule" that is impervious to everything outside of it, and unbeknownst to him, inside of it as well, and accordingly with the creator of the device, to keep everything outside the capsule "absolutely safe"; worse, it might even _be_ what Porky wanted anyway. And he will remain inside the capsule absolutely safe, after the end of the world, the death of the sun, the consumption of the galaxy by its supermassive black hole, the heat death of the universe, for all of eternity and beyond. _Alone._
But the character has a contradiction in his personality. Around New Pork City and his "playroom", beyond his cult of personality and the groupies and worshipers brainwashed into loving him, you can find fake weapons and attire, a theater, items and a yo-yo: all representing the existence and experiences of the only one who gave him the time of day: Ness. One can infer that despite Porky betraying him and trying to kill him, he really respected Ness and very clearly misses him and his adventures; and without a doubt would've loved being Ness's friend. You can also see robotic replicas of his permanently estranged mother staffing a restaurant. His motivation of destroying the world and the Nowhere Islands aside from boredom as he claims, is that no one really loves him at heart -- no one likes him and he is alone in spite of all the power. And he hates that others try to pretend the past never happened: when he addresses the inhabitants of Tazmily Village, he mocks and lambasts them from trying to erase their memories of the end of their world in a hope to not repeat humanity's mistakes and failures, and that the only thing it takes to ruin everything is someone stupid, selfish and/or evil enough to act out in spite of changing the rules or never admitting defeat, and within the context of the game and its events, he is not entirely wrong.
In the end, I find Porky "King P" Mitch, in spite of how loathsome and despicable he is, to be utterly pitiful. He is a pathetic hypocrite that cannot ever grasp his own flaws, denies his mistakes and drags everyone around him to his level to prove to the world and himself that he exists, and everyone, deep down, is just like him living in his own little world, like a child -- ignoring all evidence to the contrary. No wonder he is, and forever will be, alone.
This is a brilliant comment
I ended up crying while reading this
Incredible analysis. Porky is one of my favorite fictional villains of all time and its largely because of his underlying motivations. He acts out of selfishness, greed and evil but deep down there is a part of him that wants to be loved like anyone else. He wanted to be friends with Ness but was rejected. So he denies this part of him and acts like he only cares about himself. So when he sees the people of tazmilly living peacefully it enrages him, so he sets out to destroy it. In the confrontation with Porky he says something that perfectly sums up his ideology. I believe it goes something like this:
"No matter what, the creatures known as people will always act out of stupidity and evil. You could have been happy like me if you followed the selfish visions of a hero."
I also think his abusive parents played a factor. It's what separates him from Ness. While Ness goes through many terrible things in earthbound, he has the support of a loving family to get through it and keep him strong. That's why he has to call his mom whenever he feels homesick. So what happens to someone like Porky, who has no one to call when he's homesick, who is beaten by his father. He would turn to whoever would accept him, even an unstoppable alien evil. And he would embrace his worst vices to cope with his feelings of loneliness. In mother 3, he sets out to make others expierence what he felts. He destroys Lucas' family. Lucas doesn't get to call anyone when he's homesick like Ness can. Due to Porky's actions, his mom is dead, his brother is missing and his father is distant. But despite that, Lucas is able to rise above Porky, not let the trauma cause him to fall into evil like Porky did.
This amazing comment needs to be pinned!
Even if i hate porky a lot i still feel kinda bad for him
Ironically, you can win that fight without doing a single attack. Yet even then, Claus will attack you with a spell to finish himself off. That personally hurt me.
I just kept healing myself over and over again. I don't remember ever landing any attacks. Now you're gonna make me cry.
@@supertron6039 you can actually attack claus, but its only once, and hinawa tells you to stop fighting after that, telling you to go defensive
You can also revive the party causing him to cast lightning and hit himself due to the Franklin badge
wait you can attack him??? i didn't wanna hurt him so i just healed and guarded
you can't attack him, lucas can't bring himself to do it
the only time you can attack the masked man is the turn after he hits flint with pk love
The scene where Flint reunites with the boys and learns about Hinawa's death is still one of my favorite moments in any video game. It perfectly conveys a person being so shocked and overcome by emotions that they just snap and start lashing out at anything in their way. And it characterizes the onlookers so well, too. Bronson's surreal and shallow good-news-bad-news method of telling him, Tessie taking a backhanded slap so hard that it sends her flying five feet back, only to immediately run to shield the twins (and _Jesus Christ,_ her facial expression as the scene goes on), the rest of the crowd all reacting as Flint sticks his bare hand into the bonfire and whips out a burning plank, two of the other men desperately _trying_ to disarm him, begging him to at least not do this in front of Lucas and Claus...
I picked up on all of that. Dang.
The first time I played this scene was in Japanese before the patch came out. Even without any dialogue, you just knew that Hinawa was gone, and the despair response from Flint was beautifully awful.
It made me cry when I saw that scene in a let's play.
I've always felt bad for Bronson in the scene. It's easy to just mindlessly skip through all of the ellipses, but he REALLY hesitates for probably as long as he can to tell Flint the bad news about Hinawa. Even then, the game makes it clear that the citizens of Tazmily Village have never dealt with something like Hinawa's death before and that everyone only wants to find ways to help each other, so it makes sense to me that he would try to spin the Drago Fang as having some positive worth to it even if to many people it comes across as rather strange and almost inconsiderate.
@@anankos795 I always took Bronson's comment about the Drago fang being "good news" because he knew Flint would want revenge for what happened to Hinawa.
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One of the greatest pressures of following your channel for so long is watching you become more and more unapologetically yourself. It feels like you are more comfortable with your audience, and with the little you've shared with us about real life, it's the coolest thing to feel like you're more comfortable trolling (Michael Jordan), playing, and expressing yourself to us.
For the sake of your safety, I hope Jordan doesn't read this.
You're right though. Getting into this channel I was entranced with his dives into media, sentimentality, and straightforward analysis. Then I started listening to LFAB and realized Joho is also a chaotic person. It's all really started to come together and I love it.
The joke completely went over my head, I thought that he was actually gay and that was his way of revealing it lmao
nah bro the Michael Jordan thing was real
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For me, I just can't bring myself to hate Porky. He is an exceptionally tragic character with a very fragile ego. You got a sense of it in Earthbound where he made some small attempts at chumming up to Ness only for him to ruin it by pretending he didn't care. In this game, you can clearly see that Porky has a lot of sentimental value for his time with Ness. You've got the friend's yo-yo, the theater, the memory ride. The burger joint also implies he finds affection and security in his mother, or at least an idealized version of his mother. You remember how New Pork City was made with fake building facades around it? That's Porky, he puts up a front so he won't get hurt.
The Absolutely Safe Capsule is such a fitting ending for him. It is like a return to the womb where he exists in a state where no one can hurt him and he can not hurt anyone else. Which I think is what he wants. He wants to be the hero, but he knows he's got the impulses of a bad person. The only way for him to save someone is to save everyone from himself.
Yeah I find Porky pretty compelling and tragic, but I also want to beat him up.
@@mohammadmehaboob7055 Me too, but most of all, I wanted him in Smash so bad but I've let that wish go.
Why he fascist doe?😳
@@ltb1345 because that's what fascists are at the end of the day. Sad little people who want to be loved but refuse to acknowledge it and refuse to believe that that love even exists, to the point of hurting the world around them in order to validate their own feelings
I on the other hand hated him for the enormity his crimes committed all of which he will pay with his life(Murder-Hinawa and Claus and countless mothers, fathers, sons and daughters, Corruption, Abuse of Power and leadership ,Subterfuge-His Lies)
Itoi is a modern Renaissance man and honestly explains a lot about the Mother series
Never have any entertainment medium has made me broke down from the line "You must be exhausted.".
This game is a masterpiece
Break down, not broke down. I found the "Lucas remembered Claus' smell" line to be more powerful.
God it hurt when i heard that too.
I thought "come to your mother" was more heartbreaking
They were all heartbreaking and I was crying all the way lol
@@Flamsterette especially considering if you made Boney sniff him for weaknesses before, you get:
Boney sniffed the Masked Man!
But the Masked Man didn't smell like anything.
i just finished this game because of this video essay and i love it so much. played it on an emulator on my iphone and the humor is so funny and not corny and the story was amazing and the fighting system was really enjoyable. this game is a 10/10 also the music is fucking awesome and so is the art and all the cutscenes
Can u tell me how to download it plz?
Hellyeah on a fckn emulator on phone i want that too
Yes please tell us how to get an emulator for iphone and the game itself!
@@AccidentalLeftism tbh ive been researching and even trying some of these NON Jailbreak Store Apps.
Got one running but they werent free.
The other one was free but i wasnt able to download any app.
3rd didnt even have an Emulator on store.
Soo yeah i stick to my Android phone.
Tbh its way easier getting roms and rom hacks.
Playing Mother 3 right now
And a Fanmade Fusion Pokemon Fire Red game.
All on Android. With ease! I can even connect my Xbox controller via bluetooth and play with that.
No chance with the iPad :(
emulator… iphone… oh ok
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I lost my brother to suicide in 2020, and mother 3 helped me a lot when I was feeling down and holds a special place in my heart. Thank you eyepatch wolf for talking about this beautiful game
Edit: Thank you everyone for the kind comments
Sorry about your loss, that sounds absolutely horrible 🙁
I'm really sorry about your loss man.
So sorry to hear that, I wish you the best going forward my friend.
I’m sorry :((( I hope ur okay
Now you can be like negative man
May I mention how Claus and Lucas are an annogram, I think this represents how these are both the same people (metaphor wise) but ended up going on completely different roads due to tragedy, Lucas embraced the pain and got through it while Claus denied everything just to not have to deal with it again.
I don't know how I feel about this video or the author's intentions in making it, but your comment made me want to share a story:
About two years ago, I found a copy of the fan translation of this game at a local retro game store. I had played it via emulator when I was in high school, and absolutely loved it. I picked it up and was certainly excited to play it,especially as I was about to be on vacation traveling so it was an easy choice to pick up and start up.
I had gotten into a huge fight with my partner the previous night who was upset that after six years I still didn't trust her and wouldn't open up, a conversation that I had experienced as my last conversation with many friends over the years, and even a trait that I had found out years after it occurred had cost me a very lucrative job. I thought, to quote Ian Mackaye, that being cynical was strength when it's actually weakness. I had a sick older sister and a mother who never wanted kids and immersed herself in her work as a kid, so I was always . As I got older, I got involved in local music scenes, which helped me a lot and made it easier for me to process the many things about life that didn't make sense,but can be a was a rather unstable community. This is only to provide context in terms of what I had been through, it's not really part of the story.
What is part of the story is that playing Mother 3 after all these years and mistakes hit different and made me decide to reassess my life and work on trying to trust others and not fear failure or commitment. Your comment about Lucas vs Claus (and living with vs running away from pain) made me think of my experience and how it relates. I've been making an effort to put myself out there more and to "be present" as it's often described by various new age hacks. Its not easy, but it's a long process.
Holy shit you just blew my mind. This might have been the starting point of the whole story even and it's so relatable.
That's interesting, but the real reason their names are Lucas and Claus is because Itoi was directly inspired by Agota Kristof's trilogy of novels that start with the Notebook about a pair of twins named Claus and Lucas while he was writing the script for Earthbound 64, the beta version of Mother 3.
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Thank you both for sharing!
Yes i was considering that they were the same person the positive and negative aspects. And yes while there is a logical reason behind everything anyone does it doesn't change the reason of that which is behind all our actions.
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"He's this weak little boy who obtains incredible powers and becomes the cornerstone of the party."
Ah yes... Koichi.
Jotaro’s adopted son is the most powerful being in the universe because his stand can swear
He's a pretty reliable guy.
Also. Izuku from MHA just said "Hello There".
Really Eye Patch Wolf talks about MHA one day soon and go's over why it's awesome.
@@dylansmith5206 I hope super eyepatch wolf covers the primary couple in my hero academia too.
Midoriya and his illicit love affair with the hospital bed, because he gets torn apart repeatedly every season.
I couldn't keep watching it because I couldn't keep watching just how much they brutalized that poor kid.
Ah yeah the guy who can crawl and has a rabbit hoodie
Porky's role in this game as the villain is also a great example of the flipside of the coin about the themes of grief that run through the game: you find out that his most treasured possession is an item that once belonged to Ness, the hero of Earthbound, and shows that despite everything that happened between these two in that game, Porky was still affected by Ness not being in this world and has not moved on to the point of being unwilling to die
I wished he brought up the moral dilemma of porky's fate and his background. I also wished he could have brought up earthbound more so people who are new to the mother series can enhance their experience also playing earthbound AND mother 3
good video and comment regardless
The line that stuck with me the most after all these years is: "You'll forgive your hasty brother, won't you?"
😭😭😭
Uuuuuuugggghhhh!! 😭
The use of the word hasty was interesting there. Like if you just take some time to slow down and reflect you can realize everything will be ok. Those who act on emotion and react are bound to make mistakes
"You must be so exhausted" haunts me. I love this game so much
“i’m glad you could be with me just before the end.” and “i’m sorry.” *HIT HARD TOO*
John, the game formerly known as Mother 4 is actually called "Oddity", not Odyssey!
Thanks so much I spent forever trying to find it
When I saw the video, I assumed I missed an update where they changed the name! Hah, thanks
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No crying until the end.
Shigesato Itoi's whole philosophy of making a big toybox of things he likes in the hopes that other people will come by and find meaning in the things he found meaning in is so wonderful. Every game in the series sparks powerful emotions that are different for everybody.
No crying until the end is a really powerful line.
Easily the hardest hitting part of the final battle is when you have the Franklin badge on, and you can't choose to kill the boss, he takes that choice from you, and forces the end to happen, and it hits hard, as your desperately wanting for him to stop, but he hits you with his "im so sorry" before taking his life, in an emotion and amazing way
Strangely enough
In Earthbound, PSI Shield would just tank damage and eat it. In Mother 3, however, PSI Shield only _halves_ damage rather than nullifying it.
If it were EB rules, Claus might have lived.
Though in the end, it was PK Thunder, or rather just an electrical move.
Anything involving electricity, when it came to shields, just immediately got past them.
There was literally nothing Lucas could do to both win and have his brother.
@@kirbyfreakyt4695 i wish we could just feed him Cups of life noodle lol
@@wolfganggrimmerdoesnotdese6822 Indeed...
There's Healing omega, revival items, etc, AND YET NONE OF THEM CAN BE USED...
And it's so hard to run out of PSI during the fight if you've been using guard, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALL THE MAGIC ITEMS ON YOU...
@@kirbyfreakyt4695 That lightning attack is apparently like absurdly strong, at the first part of the fight when your party members are still in your party (albeit all KO'd) you can try reviving them, even getting them back up to full HP, but the attack instantly wipes them out again. No rolling health. And Claus somehow eats this getting reflected back at him multiple times but it's only the last one that does him in. Maybe whatever cybernetics are implanted in him prevent him from being normally KO'd so he literally damages himself past the point where any healing can work.
@@LilacMonarch
Yet Lucas doesn't even ATTEMPT to heal him...
Even in a "no PSI" run of Mother 3 (which is possible with one exception), it literally takes a full inventory of full heal items PLUS a Lifeup Gamma (
i lost my mom in first grade.... there is no way i could play this game without crying my eyes out. just this video made me tear up a bit.
I am so, so sorry.
@@taylorciccotelli7822 thank you,, it was a long time ago so dont worry losing a parent though is nothing you ever forget, especially if it was when you were young
Sad to hear when reading your comment almost made me tear so sorry for your loss
I’m sorry for your loss
Ik how u feel man..I lost my mom about a year ago
Just watching to see where Michael Jordon fits into all this.
Well, he wrote the script, of course. Visual indicators of his presence are no longer necessary for utter dominance.
I've never even played a MOTHER game in my entire life and the ending of this video actually made me tear up.
You should only play Mother 3, trust me. Earthbound does not live up to all the hype. This one does and then some.
@@brya9681 Do you know a good emulator that runs the translation? :0
@@Edgee_yy mgba
I had fun with EarthBound. Most people don’t play it for the story, anyways, as it’s more about the wacky npcs you come across and the catchy music with pop culture references. Play it if you’d like, because it makes Mother 3 so much more enjoyable.
@@brya9681 ima have to disagree there. Earthbound was every bit as good of a game as M3. It didn't have as deep of a story as 3, but it's the way it was told that made it such a great game. And this is coming from someone who just beat both for the first time in the last 2 weeks
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Even better about Porky sealing himself away in the absolutely safe capsule is that it both is and isn't the victory he imagines it is.
Yes, he is safe, he's avoided death and harm forever, going so far as it being confirmed that he's still alive even after the Earth is eventually swallowed by the Sun's Supernova, and possibly perfectly content with no regrets for anything. Just spending eternity laughing that he beat everyone from his tiny cage.
But as soon as the battle ends, the game just moves on. Lucas and the party walk on to the final boss and never acknowledges Porky then onward. Like his actions meant nothing, less than nothing to them, maybe even having Lucas and co be just as satisfied as Porky is. For everything that he did and stood for, he's not the stain on their lives after he takes himself out. Maybe we the player wants him to get his just desserts after two games of annoyance, but Lucas doesn't regret anything, he has more important things than to worry about than something he can't change.
Physically and metaphorically Porky can never move on, but everyone else can and does.
I really like your take is some sort of way of giving players closure to porky’s situation
Porky's locked in a neverending existence. That's punishment enough for his deeds.
Personally, I never got the Unsafe Implications™ from the hotspring scene with Ionia where Lucas awakens to his PSI. I always thought they were just drowning him as a means to an end, since their dialogue during it is no more flirty than it ever is when they talk to anyone else. I do get why people read it that way, but I kinda just thought "endure it" was referring to...being underwater in a hotspring.
Exactly! The only thing Ionia did horrible was drowning a child in order for him to awaken his Psi.
I love SEW’s video but he made a serious error in regards to that claim
Yes, this exactly! I never interpreted something inappropriate was happening and, as you said, believed that Ionia was holding Lucas under the water in order to awaken his PSI. I find it difficult to believe that the Unsafe Implications™ in the description is what was actually intended by this scene.
imagine the unimaginable
@@Yoruharu Why would you ask us to put ourselves into this headspace when there isn't proof to substantiate Unsafe Implications™ and the scene is clearly conveying that he was drowned (e.g. Lucas rising to the water after the scene's end, Ionia standing far away from him, no 'blushing' animation as shown later in the game when Lucas kisses the mermaid, etc.)? If there were reason to suspect that this was occurring then sure, but attributing something terrible to this scene (more terrible than drowning, mind you) just for the sake of it isn't useful or fair to the game
@@allieherba okay, i made that reply as a joke.
but it does implied that something sexual is happening to them. just because its more unpleasant than drowning (as if drowning a person is less worse) doesn't mean that is NOT what was happening.
As someone who's father died when i was a kid this game hits home
I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you have and will find peace.
I’m so sorry, I really wish you the best ♡
As someone who was the shy lil bro to my cousin who passed away it hits me too.
Same with the loss of my mother, some of the scenes in the games are painful, i relive my own past
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(If you are English and you don't know why this appears, it is because in Spanish it means something about hitting you... literally)
I don't think I'll ever fully grasp how Mother 3 has changed the way I look at media, or hell just the world in general. All I can say is, I know that it was very important to me, and I wish that as many people as possible would be able to experience it, despite the odds being so stacked against that (or maybe because of that even).
That feeling was a huge factor for why I made the Dutch translation of it. I saw that there was one originally started by someone else, but after quite some time it was clear it had been canned. I just woke up one day with the thought in my head that the translation tools are online and available for your perusal, and the thought that it was my favorite game ever, and that I could do the translation myself.
And so, after 4 months of work, the Dutch translation was released and to be added to the list of translations this game has. It was quite a lot, don't get me wrong, and there were times where I was like "I have to translate ALL THAT?!" along with the text just not behaving like it should, but in the end it was absolutely worth it. So yeah, that was my little comment on what Mother 3 means to me.
ey yo props to you my guy. Now more people can get to experience this game
Translating things can sometimes be a thankless job but somewhere out a Dutch kid or guy or gal is playing Mother 3 for the first time and having a blast and its thanks to you
I've never even heard of this game, much less played it. And I am crying at this video. What the fuck.
It's the kid from smash
then play the game. i thought i never would, so i saw a video detailing all of the games story. a month later i got into emulation and managed to download it. i finished it and cried a lot. i knew the ending and knew what was gonna happen, but the game does everything so well it made burst out crying, and that has never happened to me before.
@@cabracadabra3054 how long did it take you to finish the game? did you find the combat boring?
@@demonpower101 it took me around a month to finish it, but thats because i like to take my games slow, specially rpgs, the in game timer said it took me 24 hours 30 mins. As for the combat, i really enjoyed it. the rolling health meter adds a lot of pressure to the fights and its fun to try to learn the rhythms of the tracks. i didn’t find it hard since i figured out how strong buffs and debuffs are in this game, and its the first rpg that has forced me to take speed into consideration, so thats cool. its a great game, and most of it has been polished to the max, specially compared to earthbound (that game is amazing too, just not as good).
@@cabracadabra3054 ok thank you. i think ill play the game as well
“Cómo te rompe la madre 3”
Regarding the majipsys, I dont think the implication is that anything sexual happened, rather that Lucus was nearly drowned, the stress of witch awakens his physic potential.
Furthermore, the implications are only a result of your making. You might have a certain impression at first based on the way the Magypsies look, the way the act, and what they are, but these impression are ones you make up from your assumptions.
It teaches you not to just assume things about someone just because of those first-impressions, because once you actually get to know someone, you might realize you two are not so different.
That’s exactly what it was. Unfortunately Itoi deliberately wrote the dialogue that way for a “joke”. It’s was made for some players to go “WTF” only to show that nothing happened at all.
Lucas was drowned and the stress mixed with the hot water to induce a PSI Fever, and boom: Lucas was able to awaken his powers.
@@refat17 You are the first person I see that doesn't try to completely brush off the "inappropriate implications" of that scene while still defending it with reasonable arguments, thank you.
Also, keep in mind that in Japan there's still a stigma against LGBT people which the magypsies clearly represent (and this game came out in 2006, so it was probably even worse than now). So, with that context in mind, I think Itoi was trying to subvert people's expectations for these kinds of characters and people with that scene.
Nintendo: Wanna hear a joke
Fans: Sure
Nintendo: Mother 3
Fans: I don't get it
Nintendo: EXACTLY
Savage.
Nintendo: Wanna Hear A Joke?
Me- Sure.
Nintendo- A Good Version Of Smash Ultimate with so much single player modes to choose from, Awesome Online, So Much Unlockable Content, A Story Mode that's just as grand scale as Subspace Emmisary, And More Characters From Mother, Donkey Kong, Kid Icarus, And Star Fox with Crash Bandicoot, Rayman, And Lara Croft
Me- I don't get it.
Nintendo- Exactly "Followed By them laughing at me while running out the door with my cash like the petty crooks they are"
@@dylansmith5206 Smash Ultimate is good, but it could be better.
@@jaydenc367 Meh. In my opinion.
Smash Ultimate is garbage that's not really worth my time or hard earned cash.
@@dylansmith5206 Well...I disagree, I still think it's pretty great.
The mother series may look cute but every single game will show you the dark side of life. Its show you death, absent fathers, experimentation, child abuse, mental breakdowns, etc.
Edit: And police brutality.
I find it sad how so many people skip the first game in the series. Yeah, it's clunky and unfair at times, but I think it solidifies the base of what the MOTHER series is, and it's still a great game, so it should be played before one goes play MOTHER 2 and 3.
It kind of reminds me of Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni in this regard. Colorful and cutesy as if it was made for children, but gets seriously dark and disturbing very quickly. Perfect example of how judging a book by it's cover may end up very bad for you.
You mean Mother 3 the other 2 don't really pull that off
I mean the series villain Porky is implied to have been hit by his parents in mother 2. Porky is just an abused kid trying to get rid of his pain by hurting others, it's sad really just goes to show that no one is free from pain villains heros it's all pain.
As if I don't have that irl
There are a few things I kind of wished you talked about:
-The origin of Tazmilly
-The whole deal about Fassad
-The unused backgrounds of the final boss
It'd be cool but I don't think there was really a spot where that would fit well in the video. No really easy area to slip it in it seems!
@@punkitt My thoughts exactly, this would better fit in an extra, separate video.
Fassad is fascist and wants all non-binary people to stop existing tho
Although I hope that was a joke (otherwise people really don't know what fascism is...)
@@commisaryarreck3974 Spoilers!!!
Fassad is one of the Magypsies though, so he'd have to hate himself too, which is DEFINITELY not the case.
Also, Pokey's/Porky's origin, the role he played in EarthBound, and that it's partially Giygas's fault that he's evil!
There was a stint of time when I was not much younger than I am now - about eight years worth of time where three of my closest family members passed away. It changed me forever, and each of them produced am instance of 'Life Before' and 'Life After'. That feeling of seeing the choice between feeling every inch of that pain, or losing yourself in nothingness is very real, and for some te afterward, I chose nothing. All I felt was anger, or nothing at all. It took long time to recover from that, and to me, that's the Dragon.
"I hope you're doing okay. I hope things are alright in your life and, if they're not, I hope they get better soon."
40:30 in case anyone wants to hear it again
@@guy-sl3kr Thank you.
In regards to the section you didn't want to talk about in the video.
I feel nothing sexual actually happened in that scene. The idea of hot water awakening Lucas's psychic powers at least makes a bit of sense to me due to the characters learning new PSI abilities by getting a hot fever. I do wish that part of the game could be explained by Itoi or changed because I don't think there's anyone out there who DIDNT think about the worst possible implication of it.
Yeah, it's more likely that he was just baptized but held underwater for so long that he was gasping for breath afterward. But still, the scene is just vague enough for you to take it in whatever direction you want. Quite frankly, there's only a 50% chance that the Magypsies even have dicks, so it's a tossup.
Can't be too careful with the people who love to think they find the smallest speck of filth and send the public agaist him.
I always thought of it more as Lucas being held underwater, and that desperation for air plus the heat awakening his PSI powers in an attempt to save himself. Like how in life or death situations people will temporarily be able to access the kind of strength reserved for fictional superheroes.
@@greatestcait Oh, so like an adrenaline rush? That's a cool interpretation.
I think in the worst case the game makes a "joke" about it by letting you think sth bad happened but then the animation reveals he was just underwater. Would still be kinda insensitive and not so cool but I don't think actual abuse is happening.
Cómo te rompo la madre 3
It’s sad how MOTHER 3 will most likely never be localized, it is such a great series and with it not having the chance to be so recognized really hurts me. Itoi had created such a beautiful series only for it to be barley known. I hope one day, MOTHER will have its chance again. It really deserves it.
At this point who cares, the fan translation would be better than the most likely censored version Nintendo would make
And apparently Itoi himself acknowledged the fan translation so there's even less need for an official one
Accessibility is still an issue with the patch but the game is so old that a translated emulation is probably the most common way anyways
Oh boi, do I have some news for you.
I'll come back in a week when I've finished Mother 3
Smart decision
Please do so. Totally worth
I'll wait you until then
I’ll come back in a week when I build up the courage to pirate mother 3
Me too! Where can I get it?
"como te rompe la madre 3"
One thing about Lucas' character you can notice between when he was a child and the entire game, is that he used to cry but then he don't do it anymore, even people tells you that as something positive, but as long you going trought the game, you can tell he doesn't cry because he doesn't want to, is just because he repress himself about it, he finally ends up crying in the end, and that tells you how he finally can finally start to overcome his lost.
I don't know why people always jump to "that" in regards to the hot spring scene
Lucas being forcefully submerged in the hot spring to gain in psi is the more likely explanation for what happened. That specific hot spring draws butterflies so its clearly special and let's be honest itoi wouldn't put "that" into the game which were made for his daughter
oh same, i thought it was clear from the sprite of him coming back up for air. kind of a fucked up thing for a clearly compassionately framed character to do, so it just feels super off as a theory
Yeah I saw it as more of a “baptism” type of thing than... well, a different kind of awakening.
This needs more visibility :(
I think it's a matter of the fade to black and unfortunate wording, leaving it just ambiguous enough that you might accidentally jump to a much worse conclusion
Yeah, is mostly implied that PSI awakens with near death experiences too.
But it also reminds me to the bathing customs in Japan. The old "sit in the hot water to soak up and count to 100 before coming out" that's what the "endure it just a bit longer" reminded me of.
"Te rompo la madre 3" me da fuerza
Me: Okay, how bad can this be?
Me, after watching this video: *lying on the ground, crying*
I love that the devs/translators named Fassad that name, it literally means "corruption" in Arabic.
it also sounds like the english word facade
It's a crazy-awesome bit of localisation. In the original Japanese, he was 'Yokuba', alluding to the term 'Yokubara', which apparently roughly translates as 'greed' or 'avarice'. The name they chose in English carries the same kind of sinister connotation, which is far more important than actually sounding the same.