The Dating Sim So Bad It Killed The Genre
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Patreon - / punchystream
Stream Archive Channel - / @punchystream
Twitch - / punchy
Twitter - / succinct_punchy
Thanks again to Will/Ultigonio for helping with producing this monster.
"character interactions are so goddamn weird. Everyone is mean all the time for no seemingly no reason and characters intermittently engage in completely bizarre behavior."
Finally, an accurate high school sim
class of 09 wishes
TRULY. REALISM.
Truly accurate to my experience in high school XD
Small amusement on the bit between JRPGs and WRPGs that you intentionally picked a western developed game for the JRPG representative, and a Japanese developed game for the WRPG representative. I see what you did there!
i'm so glad someone noticed this joke lol
@@PunchyYT always hyped to see In Stars and Time
If Tsukihime has any degree of accuracy to reality the solution to the 6 day school week Japanese kids took in the 90s was a massive amount of semi-socially acceptable truancy
Local horror game speedrunner who knows Japanese rants about obscure Japanese dating sim series (emphasis on the sim). All according to keikaku. *Translator's note: Keikaku means "plan."
tbh it's possibly the *least* obscure dating sim series I could've picked out of the genre but the genre itself is obscure in the West so it be like that
@@PunchyYTLike I said. All according to keikaku.
Because dating is horror
@@Mario_bland *Dating before the internet was like living in the world of Dracula or Frankenstein:* _Strange and scary but you can overcome it through hard work and wits._
*Dating in the age of internet and social media is like being trapped in a Lovecraft or Junji Ito story:* _You are doomed from the start and all your efforts are futile._
I will have to shamelessly admit that personally I did not really know the major differences between a dating sim and a romance visual novel so this video was very enlightening in that regard. I hope there is an English translation of the Tokimeki remake, frankly it looks like it will actually be really fun to play. Love to play with numbers.
This was a really good video, really kept its pace. You did a good job. :)
It's a shame that og Tokimeki Memorial games never got translated release. They had really deep, intriguing mechanics and interesting fan disc / spin-off games to mess around. Especially TM1 drama series, surprisingly made by Kojima(yes, _THAT_ Kojima) crew.
...I still can't believe that official Korean version of TM1 (fully dubbed, minus the vocal songs) exists. Made pretty well also.
@@CB-L There was a fan-translation for the Super Nintendo version of the first game.
I am aware of that but that's unofficial and came out much, much later since original release anyways
It's always such a gut punch to see games from this era that have earlier entries with gorgeous pixel art and later entries that were made in the days of 'If it's 3D, it's better' even when it just objectively looks worse. Would it have solved the problems of Tokimemo 3 if they stuck to their guns and either used the pixel art of 1 or the anime renders of 2? Of course not. But it would've at least made the game more palatable to look at.
Also, if anyone who stumbles onto this comment has had their interest piqued in some of the dating sims from this era that Punchy mentioned (e.g. Mitsumete Knight, Angelique, True Love Story, etc.), there's a RUclipsr named Bapsago whose whole channel is looking at these types of games. I highly recommend their content!
Oh, also, I assume the 'hitching' is an attempt at immersion - the girl is animating as 'you respond' to her. The pause is for your character to actually say the line to her. If your character had voice acting, it'd work, but it comes across immensely awkward without it.
I kinda can grasp why most of Tokimeki 3 girls route are kinda depressing, well its because Kanon
Speaking of sincere and not-joke premise indie dating sims from the west, there was one insanely obscure indie game from 2010 called Shira Oka that was a bonafide full-on Tokimeki Memorial clone with 8 girls to pursue and even 2 guys.
And by insanely obscure I mean the company that made this vanished into the ether shortly after the game came out and the only place you can even get this anymore is on DLsite of all places.
Fascinating game in many ways. It had a lot of passion and soul put into it but they clearly struggled to live up to the scope of a Tokimemo game.
I've actually heard of Shira Oka! Incredibly odd production and basically the only example I've got of a western dev who was in fact, visibly trying to mimic Tokimeki Memorial. Didn't make it into the video because idk they can't all get shoutouts
Shira Oka is special. It's got a lot of quality voice-acting, and it's especially charming because in the last 1/3rd of every character's route is batshit insane - government conspiracies, ghosts and all things supernatural start to invade your otherwise normal high school depending on which character you pursue. Also, your angel companion kills you if you fail enough tests in school, which is a very funny way to force you to focus on stat-raising.
Gunning for the true ending (which requires all routes) is exhausting and there are many regrettable design decisions, but I don't regret the 70-some hours I spent getting it.
Oh, this is why the "life sim" part of the Persona games is like that! Because it's a riff on these kind of games.
"I am here to engage sincerely"
preach
Thanks, is really refreshing to finally hear the discussion on this topic from someone who knows what they are talking about and does not have contempt for the genre
15:26 I do find it funny the only SW game we got before the reboot was the fifth one, which released in the PS2 almost four years after the PS3, and five years after the game released in Japan.
holy hell I had no idea the gap between the JP and NA releases for that one was so big???
@@PunchyYT
That release in general was strange.
- The PS2 version technically came on two discs, which was due to one disc being the entire game with English VO, and the other disc being the exact same but has the Japanese VO. Apparently this was due to space restrictions.
- The Game is a rather rare example of a Dual Layer PS2 game. Only about 20 games came this way.
- The game was also ported to the Wii by Idea Factory (for some reason), which that port wasn’t released in Japan.
- The PS2 version in America only came in a “Premium Edition” that came with a poster of one of the characters (Sunshine Gumiary), an Artbook, and an oversized manual.
- The PS2 version never came out in Europe, only version Europe got was on the Wii.
- I can’t confirm this being true, but the PS2 version was a GameStop Exclusive In America. No clue about Europe.
- It’s one of the few games I can think of to release in the US without a manual in the case, others being the PS1 ports of Lunar 1 and 2.
Would like to see you cover it as it’s one of the last US PS2 games to release that was NOT a Sports game or Licensed game.
Also technically isn’t quite 5 years:
JPN Release: July 7th, 2005
US release: March 30th, 2010.
Speaking of reboots
We’re now reportedly getting a second internally developed reboot of Sakura Wars
But this time it seems to coincide with the new era new energy initiative, in other words it’s a fucking Super Game
Why can’t they just make a good dating sim and strategy game instead of the weird ass arpg reboot we got from sega team or whatever the hell they’re doing next
Also why was the first reboot even an arpg? Was it because they were afraid of competing with Valkyria Chronicles?
@@jstyxx4110jesus, i forgot so long came out that far into the ps3’s life span that sony had already pivoted to the it only does everything campaign
Less than two minutes in and Punchy makes me agree with him possibly more than I ever agreed with anyone.
"Genre definitions are all semantics and where braincells go to die."
Couldn't agree more
Dating Sims have gone through the transition of hard as balls (the original Tokimei Memorial) to the later era when the love interests throw themselves at the MC. IMO the nail in the coffin was the advent of waifu gacha games. It has all the para-romance aspects of a visual novel and promises a stream of new content, you just gotta pay for it.
49:00
During my play though I eventually committed to wearing either the white or black button up and either the brown or black pants. For shoes, I opted for the brown leather ones.
During the final year of my play through ,I ended up discovering that the brown shoes are actually supposed to be paired with the suit and will always trigger a disgusted reaction with any other outfit combination. I’m not sure what’s wrong with pairing brown dress shoes with a business casual fit but ok.
Once I replaced them with the sneakers I started getting girls complimenting my style.
(P.S, tshirt, jeans, and sneakers is a good fit to wear if you’re going after Makihara - she never complimented me for it but never complained either. I opted for the business casual fit because it caused the least problems and when I eventually decided to pursue Chitose she liked it)
What are we, some kinda Tokimeki Memorial?
22:58 That sounds genuinely upsetting. It's like some of the things in Tales of Symphonia, when certain characters... leave the group.
30:56 The face that says "30 bucks well spent" (that is a rather sizeable box)
Also yeah, the direct comparison especially between 2 and 3 is rather jarring. Kind of like the downgrade Disgaea 6 had with the 3D-chibi-models instead of proper, lively sprites.
1:15:05 And they lived happily ever after. After all the previous tragedy I almost expected a "or at least they would have if she didn't slip on her way down the legendary hill, hit her head and fell into a coma" or something. Maybe that actually is in the game, but has a low chance of happening like the two RNG-girls showing up.
I have to agree about the fact that anything that presents itself as even remotely a dating sim really feels the need to be satirical and sarcastic in order to be taken seriously in this day and age. The current biggest news in the Dating Sim scene I'm aware of is Date Everything, a game that, while it certainly looks high effort with its art and voice acting, is still ultimately about dating your household furniture. It really does feel that after Hatoful Boyfriend, western audiences and developers alike have been far too scared of treating the genre with any real sincerity without that barrier of "oh it's actually a parody"
I wrote that bit before Date Everything got announced and now I feel like it might get interpreted as specifically slighting it. and well. if the shoe fits, I suppose. It's certainly symptomatic of the things I talked about whether it means to be or not.
@@PunchyYT Oh jeez, sorry. I wasn’t suggesting that you were slighting Date Everything, I just thought it was a relevant example of that idea.
Since I'm an otome game player (playing the girl side games and games from other companies) this is SUPER interesting to watch since this is obviously territory I havent touched at all.
But the double bonus of seeing the context of tm3 and how so many things in this game baffle me holy shit.
I wanted to indulge Girl's Side a bit more I feel like I sidelined it a little in service to keeping the run-time down because I have played at least GS1 and thought it was a pretty good time.
@@PunchyYTthe thought and mention is appreciated! They're a different beast and often both the genre and audience can be easily misunderstood, so I personally think it's a smart choice to keep the topic more focused towards just one side of the series.
I'm glad to find someone like me here! I'm also an otome game player and had only played Girl's Side of the Tokimeki franchise, so this video was very interesting. I'm happy Girl's Side was mentioned at all; considering there would be a lot to cover when it comes to that kind of genre and audience.
Learning more about dating sims its become obvious to me that most dating sim "parody" games are parodying dating sim flash games on newgrounds
That WRPG/JRPG bit was such a clever subversion lol
Huh, so that's the difference between a romantic Visual Novel and a Dating Sim... In that case, it seems I've never actually played a dating sim in my life. I'll correct that whenever I get time.
Also what the hell why does a girl have a dog body count.
Adding to the argument. Japanese companies were so sure that westerners didn't "get" their games, that they invested in western studios to make sequels to appeal to a western audience. Capcom being one of the biggest offenders, but konami also went this route with silent hill.
Im going to be honest- I've never been interested in dating sims, but hearing about tokimemo 2 made me wish there was an english translation. Like... just structurally that fascinates me. A whole seperate game style for a prologue? Options to have your name said- when games now still don't do that? It must have been incredible to play- it sounds like so much care went into it. Imagine a game made today where the creators could just... do what they wanted, without having to worry about money or the crushing desires of publishers, having as much time and fund as they needed, being allowed to just experiment like that. Like. It just blows me away that they got to DO any of that. All those discs! All those bizarre choices! They got to just do what they thought was best for yhe game. These days, only indie devs get to do that it seems, and they don't get the money these people did. What an idea. What a game.
"Rika is a psychopath and a serial dog murderer. Next girl." I lost it at this point xD
I love when you show us these games most likely no one in the west has heard of. I appreciate your content!
Tokimeki isn't all that obscure. I remember reading about it in a very mainstream gaming mag in the 90s as a "here's a weird Japanese game that will never be released here" kind of thing. I really liked the video though, very interesting to get a fuller picture of what the games and the genre actually were.
Wait you have a chuuni waifu as super rare RNG drop? Lmao, this is gold
It's kinda sad to get reminded of the accursed TM3 back from the days - especially after seeing TM1's remake news. Yeah TM4 and Girls' side(which evolved into its own series of spin-offs) were pretty good but the scar was deep. Mainly on sales.
Dating sims like these actually existed in the west. A lot of them being flash games and rather pornographic, however the sim part of dating sim is still there. you still leveled stats via activity's, went on dates, and in some cases were rewarded with erotic content. Which is a major distinction between western flash dating sims, and what japan defines them as.
It is definitely not a major distinction. If you look into the history of japanese dating sims you'll find that many of the earliest versions of the concept included H-scenes (nsfw material). Often times, every other element of the game was simply preamble to the goal of getting to an adult scene. This was true for many visual novels as well. I've heard some analysts actually say the clean nature of tokimemo was one of the things that made it stand apart at the time it came out, though I wouldn't take that claim at face value.
Many of these works were created in doujinsoft circles and made independently for computers, and it wasn't until the more popular works received console ports/adaptations that they had to make changes to adhere to ratings boards/expectations. In a way, you could say they were exactly the same as those flash games, in that they were independent small scale projects that didn't shy away from adult themes or topics.
Fun anthropological study of a genre that's utterly inaccessible outside of a single translation romhack.
Speaking as a complete outsider who will probably never touch these games - holy shit, the TM3 visuals and designs are so LIFELESS. A lot of that is probably due to the self-imposed technical stuff you mentioned (3D models with shared skeleton rigs etc.) but I have to wonder how much of it was also imposed by shifts in anime trends and designs that I'm too old and crabby to like...
Informative and completely insane as usual. Cheers brother
I accidentally made a longplay of Tokimeki Memorial once (The SNES port) and yet, I still don't get the appeal. O.o
Fun fact: The lightgun Castlevania arcade game has a secret ending that Is a parody of the Tokimeki Memorial ending.
Less than 20 minutes in and I already feel pretty confident about subscribing having never seen this channel before it showed up in my youtube recs.
Deadass I highly suggest his loop 8 or ps1 uno vids, they’re hilarious
I actually played all three girl side games. With English patches. I heard about them(at least 3 of them, didn't know there was a 4th) through a Let's Player playing through three Tokimeki Memorial games and explaining how they did in Japan and translating what was going on/what was said. It was an interesting experience since at the time, I'd only played VNs before. But I also like Life Sims and Time management games, so I got into fast, lol.
I liked all three Girl Side games(3's gimmick made me laugh), but I think 2 was the best.
Great video. This was a nice little trip down memory lane. I can't remember how long it's been since I saw or played this game series.
Girl's Side is amazing, have you also tried Girlish Love Revolution for the original DS? Thanks for the reminder too, going to replay all of them :D
1:09:35, no we dont, that tracks dirt everywhere.
Kinda weird how in school based sims your family is no where to be found
Having played Magical Diary: Wolf Hall last year, I was SO happy to hear a shout out to it. It's a great little game with a lot of silly fun to it. Haven't played the first one unfortunately.
I'm not big into dedicated dating simulators (have played games with elements of it like Fire Emblem as I'm mainly an action guy) but this is a very good video that intrigued me despite the fact I'm probably not the target audience.
Also the fact your two male friends also have their own romances sounds funny to me in 2, it brings to mind the image of one of them just stealing the girl at the final hour. (and Takumi reminds me of Nils from FE7.)
they actually absolutely can steal the girl at the final hour. Their targets are random and they can absolutely overlap your own target. How this plays out depends on which rival but it is totally possible to drop the ball and lose the girl to them at the end.
@@PunchyYT lmao that sounds great.
This was an entertaining look at an aspect of gaming I knew very little about. Thanks!
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IN STARS AND TIME MENTION LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i had so many people ask me if I'd played it on the Loop8 video that I felt I had to throw them a bone lol
Now that I am seeing this video and the existance of the Rival Schools Dating Sim starts making sense... Not implying that you should make a video on it... But maybe...
There was a KOF one too with Kyo
@@useless4692 I played that! (A Spanish translation has been out for a while and I'm a native Spanish speaker)
It's not a Dating Sim, at least not fully like KOF for girls or Days of Memories, it's more of an amalgamation of Life Sim, RPG, Visual Novel with a weird Fighting game inspired combat system.
It's like persona in a way, with cool random events expected of a Japanese life sim.
The only dating sim-like system is doing their events, the more they like you, the more likely they will go into the KOF Tournament with you,
You also have to take care of your friends when Iori attacks them, to keep their friendship afloat.
I kinda like the 3D models, they could have worked if devs had more time to make them more distinct from each other.
The way the 3D models look kinda gives me the vibe of some long forgotten cheap digipaint anime from the early 2000s and I actually kinda vibe with that.
Prior to this video, my only exposure to TM3 came from an old Screenshot LP that focused primarily on the one girl you barely touched on this video (the grey hair psuedo-magical girl character), so it was really nice to see this video showcase the rest of the cast and see this game in motion! Well, as nice as you can get with TM3. It does seem like they did want to try to keep innovating and try making the games feel more 'real'. However, the dev team seem to have done it in the same way that Disney does with their live action remakes of their animated movies or adults seem to do with kids cartoons, in a 'uhhhh that's not how it actually works in reality check and mate we need to make this more ''mature''' by making it realistic' without actually considering why that suspension of disbelief may be necessary.
Thanks for the thoughtful video! I feel like there's been an uptick in English-speaking people's acknowledgement of TM ever since that Action Button Reviews video, and it's something I'm deeply grateful for. I'm setting up my own prayer circle for the TM remake to get a English translation
And here I am to watch while I'm working. To help this crappy algorithm boost your wonderful videos, Punchy.
37:25 seeing you delete your UNISON safe file physically hurt
why did they make it 600kb!! i'm not made of megabytes here!
@@PunchyYT good games require at least this much space
@@samuely6423Tokimeki of Duty
I hope Konami lets Bloober revive this franchise too...
as someone who played every tokimeki memorial girl's side (except 4) and enjoyed them a lot it's interesting to see a video essay about the origins and deeper history behind the series and genre itself!
editing this comment after watching the video but its so sad how dating sims have never really gained traction in the western world. my knowledge of vn/dating sims/otoges stemmed from the super super niche series of "days" games by pacthesis and ive grown up playing and loving otome games but it is really excruciating having to 1. wait for english releases as i dont know japanese and otoges now being on the swtich only completely halted fan translations, and 2. knowing that someday there is a possibility that these english releases and overall development of one of my favorite genres could stagnate at any time due to the lack of popularity. honestly an incredibly informative video and really made me think about the genre as a whole.
Perhaps people think that romance can't stand on its own for some reason
What went through the developers when designing a dating sim to make the characters so hostile to you? From what little I've seen of the series, Tokimemi Memorial is about the fantasy of a high-school romance. Having the first reaction of the main girl being rudely dismissive just kills the fantasy.
I love that "Perfectly cut Japanese girl speech" at 50:03
Whats funny about the west not getting the dating sim craze too much is that i remember SO MANY flash games of this format on deviantart back in the day. As someone more familiar with VNs, i thought they were a little bizarre at the time with how complicated they were, only to find out later they were modeled after actual dating sims like this!
(Also yay Hatoful mention :) even if you were being a little sarcastic there lol, its legit a good game past the parody disguise it wears. Definitely skewed a lot of people's views on the genre a bit tho, for people who didnt actually play it)
Always enjoy seeing new perspectives in different gaming genres and I have to admit dating sims seems to be new one for me. Curious esp. since it's mostly a Japanese phenomenon
Ryujinx being taken down by nintendo ruined my day but an hour long punchy vid has now back at normal depression levels of joy
how IS kazupoon running it blindfolded, anyway?? obviously the skill ups/downs have audio cues, so i'm assuming he knows the variance well enough and when certain girls trigger at stats to intuit his progress on the way? since he's going for the shiori route, that has to be pretty intricate and i'm assuming has a large chance of failure if the rng just really decides to roger him on certain days
I sincerely have no idea I've watched him do it a few times and I still don't really understand the methodology lol
taking insert coin literal is so relatable
I was drunk but this video made me sober.
This is a compliment.
wait, couldn't Artificial Academy 2 technically count as a dating sim?
Pouring one out for our bros of mechanical convenience.
what other games were so bad they killed the genre?
Mighty no.9 probably significantly slashed the interest in indie 2d platformers when they were really snowballing in the 2010s
Idk but I’m just hoping Concord’s failure makes AAA studios wake up and stop releasing so many live service games
seriously thank you for mentioning the magical diary games. i've never heard of them before, but ive wanted to get into dating sims for a while, which is... fairly difficult, on account of me not speaking japanese beyond knowing how to order a coffee.
the only other western game i could call a proper dating sim is hush hush by sad panda studios, which is... i've only played a few hours of its beginning, but it feels incredibly half-baked, which really sucks. i swear, theres a short mandatory event thats clearly trying to introduce a gifting mechanic, but the game does not have an inventory system to accomodate for this. seriously, the game *says* you've been given some baked goods that a girl might like, but that is quite literally just flavor text. i wish the game had spent a few more months if not years in the oven, but i guess when you kickstart a game theres pressure to get it out, even if it ends up just... not being that good of a time.
or maybe it actually gets good 14 hours in and i'm just out of the loop.
ps: holy fucking shit i did NOT expect rikas backstory to be. That. yes, im tacking this on just to keep this comment somewhat related to this video instead of as just a lament of the lack of dating sims that are accessible to me.
IMO Mitsumete Knight definitely can goes toe to toe with Tokimemo 2 as the best in the genre.
This makes the youtubers i know who made over hour long video essays on tomomeki memorial 2 and thats amazing
That's is so good.
19:01 I stopped here, to say that if this whole video is about it's sequel then it's fantastic, I was waiting for this after Tim Rogers made his masterpiece.
Me as a child: i shall experiment with magnets. Oh no, the color swiels on the CRT TV didnt go away. Maybe i can do the motion in reverse to fix it. Oh NO
Rika: where did i get access to energy drinks at age 5 or something? Not my problem
Hey now, dating sims still live... only as a feature, not an actual genre of gaming.
Persona Memorial
Y'know, with how you got to build your stats and all to eventually romance the gal you like, Monster Rancher came to mind to me, lol
They're a little similar, except you train a monster rather than your stats for romancing
Well, maybe with a Pixie tho 👀
i absolutely ADORED the girls side games when i discovered their english patches about 10 years ago; i don't speak a lick of japanese (though my couple-years obsession with those games did get me reeeaaaal close to maybe starting classes lol) but they still had me importing the PSP version ahead of that one getting a patch and an artbook and soundtrack.
i'd love to see a return to the stat builder kinds; i'm not great at reading and the kind of vignette / spontaneous style of TMGS games always got me easier than wading through shinsengumi lore for the 50th time
i also cannot stand that dating sims have to be wrapped up in ironic delivery; it's even worse when every localised release of an otome vn is getting the most low effort machine translation you can imagine 😭😭😭 girl you can't do that the writing is the whole point!
I work with library stats so I can tell you that romance actually falls behind mystery in the print media stats, romance is up there though.
Love the content, have a good one :D
I know it's not even the same genre. But I always wonder about that time when games like "Love+" were popular for a couple years. I always felt that was the true end for dating sims.
Okay thank-you for expressly explaining dating sims as different to visual novels and detailing the mechanic stuff lol I was so confused by this until then. That was the moment you put yourself over as a youtuber for me and I clicked subscribe. Thankyou magic skeleton.
30:25 - "if you've made it this far into the video..."
And now everyone else can too!
Went into this video with no knowledge or opinion on any of this. I now have strong feelings about Tokimeki, thank you funny british man!
I don’t even like light novels or romance games, but holy hell was this an entertaining video essay. Good on you! Subscribed.
Well, I don't know how I'd react if my date came to the beach in a business suit. Maybe I'd find it awkward enough to be endearing. Plus, at least it's original!
With your explanation of the systems I can *kinda* see the main designer was going for and what he was trying to "fix" compared to the previous games, but I am too lazy to explain.
Doesn't surprise me the producer of this game is the same dude that produced Little King Story though.
I've noticed myself that at least for the english speaking side at best we get visual novel's with light dating sims elements. I've always enjoyed games like the princess maker games (prince maker was the one i found) and visual novels. One game i can think of that i loved playing was cute knight, very much more dating sim like. But mostly now all I've seen is visual novels with light dating sim elements from inde devs.
It’s likely that the crowdfunding thing was just their way of trying to recover after the failure of Castlevania 64 and the PS1 Contra games.
Aw, tokymaki memorial 2 sounds like it was nearly perfect for me.
I guess I know what happened to my favorite genre now.
This was fun, I'm sort of surprised you didn't mention the knitting thing though
Embrace your cringe dude, i'm here for it.
Great look into Tokimemo Memorial
I hope if this video does numbers, perhaps a a video about girls side might manifest, I'd love to know more about that.
I was thinking about buying a copy of the first game for the Saturn, and I think this video fully convinced me to just go for it
I think the closest ive seen to TokiMemo in english speaking games is Roommates. It's kinda weird, but fits the general gameplay loop.
New Punchy! Hey bro, always a treat to see you on my feed!
Half the cast are gamers
And i thought this game was aiming for realism
Also for some reason this game just makes me think of the weird ass gunparade orchestra trilogy on ps2. I think it’s cause the animations are so slow and rough
If I had a nickel for every time you reviewed a game with a psychopathic meganekko, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I think another game that marked the death of dating sims is Sentimental Graffiti 2. A game most well remembered for killing off the protagonist of the first game. That was not well received lol. Also maybe Kakyuusei 2 but that is a pc eroge that was never ported.
I don't really enjoy dating sims, however I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
im truly thinking its video time
YESSSSS I WAS WONDERING WJEN THE NEXT MAIN CHANNEL VIDEO WAS DROPPING YEASSSSSSS
To anyone who doesn't know of this series. You should go what the video by Tim rogers of action button
Very interesting video, always about as Tokimeki Memorial as a series but i have to as whats the song used on video ending ?
Yay, a punchy vid! Time to binge all of punchy's videos again!
Yes, Konami can still fuck up the remakes much like the SH2 remake and the MGS delta entries. FucKonami
punchy! i remember finding your channel years ago for your playthrough of eastern mind! any chance youd make a retrospective video like this on that game?
I had no idea about this series at all, really enjoyed the video though!
I feel like it's worth mentioning that girl's side hasn't shared this fate, as girls side 4 came out on switch in 2021 and the first 3 entries were ported I think in december of last year? That being said, I only ever played the first girl's side (and really only know enough japanese to barely get by on whats happening) so I can't attest to their quality.
girl's side was a minor hit but also the gap between 3 and 4 was like, a whole 15 years or something since that series died after the PSP and GS4 was kind of met with a massive shrug so idk if that really counts as a revival per se.
@@PunchyYT I see your point, and I think I worded this poorly, but I'm mostly just saying, if we factor in girl's side content, it gives context to the tokimemo remaster's existence. Like, GS4 came out and then they ported 1-3, which put the entire spinoff series on switch less than a year before announcement of tokimemo 1's remaster. I comprehend otomege are a difference subgenre with a different intended audience, but I still feel like these weren't disparate decisions and relate to the idea that (potentially) they've been gauging interest in trying this series again for a while.
over 1 our of a skeleton man telling me about incredibly niche things, my favorite!
YES
YESSSS
NEW VIDEOOOOO
Princess Maker mentioned 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥