How Do You Feel Getting Backstabbed? - Destiny And Fuentes Q&A

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024

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  • @destiny
    @destiny  2 года назад +53

    The post debate Q&A where Destiny asks Fuentes how he feels getting backstabbed by mainstream politicians and Trump running again in 2024...
    Destiny debates Fuentes on Ukraine ►ruclips.net/video/nzqHDgSqck8/видео.html

    • @Balls_on_Chin
      @Balls_on_Chin 2 года назад

      Brought up the foxdie… damn you’re an ancient gamer

    • @unironicallyablueraspberry4959
      @unironicallyablueraspberry4959 2 года назад

      come home destiny. Embrace your white christian heritage, brother.

    • @OPFlyFisher304
      @OPFlyFisher304 2 года назад

      Your giving Fuentes too much intellectual credit. This is more like a newly tuned professional boxer fighting a middle school bully. Fuentes simply doesn’t have the facts on his side and doesn’t have the intellectual chops to hang with Des.

    • @unironicallyablueraspberry4959
      @unironicallyablueraspberry4959 2 года назад

      @@OPFlyFisher304 Are you white?

    • @kr-1543
      @kr-1543 2 года назад

      Zelensky is jewish. So are most Ukranian oligarchs. So are most Russian oligarchs. Half of US congress has dual citizenship with Israel. They have no loyalty to any country.

  • @BruskPoet
    @BruskPoet 2 года назад +1040

    Nick Fuentes vs Destiny is on the same classic rivalry level as Joker vs Batman and Spider-Man vs Green Goblin. Never gets old.

    • @tanveercheema3802
      @tanveercheema3802 2 года назад +3

      Haha so true

    • @tanveercheema3802
      @tanveercheema3802 2 года назад +26

      Without a destiny's there's no Fuentes

    • @secondeye1574
      @secondeye1574 2 года назад +47

      Verified channels karma-farming in youtube comments by saying basic normie stuff does, on the other hand, get very old

    • @BruskPoet
      @BruskPoet 2 года назад +66

      @@secondeye1574 Anyone who cares about how many likes they get on a RUclips video comment probably needs mental help.

    • @secondeye1574
      @secondeye1574 2 года назад +21

      @@BruskPoet I agree, that's why I said it to you 😂

  • @robbyrobby3447
    @robbyrobby3447 2 года назад +114

    "when you gonna stream on cozi?" "soon as i get banned on twitch" banned on twitch 4 days later 🤔

  • @ajrespecter2075
    @ajrespecter2075 2 года назад +266

    UnIronically you guys should do a podcast that would break the internet

    • @Scawtsauce
      @Scawtsauce 2 года назад +14

      Most people don't appreciate real debates. People like all the shitty debates where people like screaming

    • @lofeofzofe5017
      @lofeofzofe5017 2 года назад +17

      Nick, Destiny,
      Infrared, and Sargon

    • @McconneIIRet
      @McconneIIRet 2 года назад +10

      @@lofeofzofe5017 Based

    • @nayojohnson5298
      @nayojohnson5298 2 года назад +2

      @@lofeofzofe5017 that would be hilarious lol

    • @southbayjay2540
      @southbayjay2540 2 года назад +8

      @@lofeofzofe5017 nah, take Sargon out. He’s too boring

  • @AKGreen
    @AKGreen 2 года назад +370

    Fuentes looks like he’s telecasting from a 1992 public access TV station.

    • @martin8313
      @martin8313 2 года назад +68

      good aesthetic ngl

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад +49

      That's why they call it cozy.

    • @m.santana4162
      @m.santana4162 2 года назад +2

      He looks like a real life groyper. Grotesque.

    • @AveSequoia
      @AveSequoia 2 года назад +2

      @@m.santana4162 gonna get groyped by the disgusting animal

    • @mickeybeavison1053
      @mickeybeavison1053 2 года назад +16

      another deep analysis from the left, thanks timothee

  • @guybrushthreepwood9071
    @guybrushthreepwood9071 2 года назад +729

    I swear if Fuentes ever becomes a fascist dictator eliminating all his political enemies he'd still have that stupid grin on his face pretending it's all just a meme

    • @sync4995
      @sync4995 2 года назад +273

      I’d vote for him 100%

    • @TheHadMatters
      @TheHadMatters 2 года назад +12

      So true.
      "Lol, World War 3 is imminent and these sheeples don't even notice. Time to make fun of them."
      What a way to gain credibility.

    • @tcritt
      @tcritt 2 года назад +2

      Shit-eating grin.

    • @markzuckergecko621
      @markzuckergecko621 2 года назад +60

      @FERRET FERRETY you're not well.

    • @Cashout95
      @Cashout95 2 года назад +19

      @@sync4995 Whack

  • @novarem9828
    @novarem9828 2 года назад +305

    Really appreciate the timestamps. Lots of streamers don't do this

    • @holysword876
      @holysword876 2 года назад +10

      Well tbh destiny himself doesn't run the channel, I think one of his mods does.

    • @pmanattack7363
      @pmanattack7363 2 года назад +29

      @@holysword876 he has a professional editor that he employs. If you ever see people in the community talking about "August," that's the guy they're referring to

    • @BouncinBrandon
      @BouncinBrandon 2 года назад +22

      Well let's be clear, you're still correct and Destiny doesn't do this, he just outsources the work to a slave he bought on the deep web, but to be safe his slave lives in Australia. Believe his name is August last I heard.

    • @cami5173
      @cami5173 2 года назад +4

      Braise be to August 🥺

    • @abelsenarega1599
      @abelsenarega1599 2 года назад

      Agosto

  • @spacefinn
    @spacefinn 2 года назад +423

    nick fuentes x destiny is a classic lineup, and never disappoints

    • @holdenaf9302
      @holdenaf9302 2 года назад +1

      So true!

    • @Br1cht
      @Br1cht 2 года назад

      Seeing two Metrosexual men going at each other arouse you? You must be AF to the core;)

    • @spacefinn
      @spacefinn 2 года назад

      @ZyklonBeezy Not literally the only ones, but yes. I get what you are saying.

    • @spacefinn
      @spacefinn 2 года назад

      ​@ZyklonBeezy It's controversial for sure, but every talking point is still predictable, everything has been refuted 10 times over already. "Normie issues" are pretty important most of the times, even if they are not edgy/dissident. At least it's a bit more "challenging" than anything you would find on the Vaush/Piker side of things.

  • @vision8899
    @vision8899 2 года назад +109

    We need to see Destiny playing Valorant with Nick

    • @emperortgp2424
      @emperortgp2424 2 года назад +6

      With playing league with lauren causing such a shitstorm, you can only imagine the content you can farm from the drama that would ensue

    • @vision8899
      @vision8899 2 года назад +14

      @@emperortgp2424 Maybe they could meet in the middle and play csgo lol

    • @donet0death240
      @donet0death240 2 года назад +1

      Fuentes teaches destiny valor and maybe a league vice versa that no one will watch

    • @boreksniffer3538
      @boreksniffer3538 2 года назад +1

      he said in the past he would never play with him cause it would humanize him and his ideology. think it was the last killstream debate

  • @Aireck174
    @Aireck174 2 года назад +21

    Destiny is one of the few who have the balls to debate Fuentes. Tim "I have canceled people on my show" Pool is too scared.

    • @deeznutz8320
      @deeznutz8320 2 года назад

      Pool just wants money

    • @fishfana
      @fishfana 10 месяцев назад

      Shapiro is frightened of Nick

  • @mickeybeavison1053
    @mickeybeavison1053 2 года назад +43

    Fuentes is fascinating

    • @chancebonnett8641
      @chancebonnett8641 2 года назад +1

      Nick fonts

    • @Greenblatt-kv5fr
      @Greenblatt-kv5fr 2 года назад +1

      The debate they had the next day was way less tedious and more savage, check it out on Politically Provoked channel on Odysee

  • @johnbluz675
    @johnbluz675 2 года назад +131

    Nick is unironically one of the smartest people destiny talks to

    • @sinatra222
      @sinatra222 2 года назад +53

      He's the most articulate by far, it's not even close. And I agree with very little of what he says.

    • @LewdNoodz
      @LewdNoodz 2 года назад

      You need to expand the media you consume if you think Mister Groyper is intelligent... or even out spoken

    • @paulspl2581
      @paulspl2581 2 года назад +6

      I completely disagree with 99% of what he says but I have to say he's better than the idiots that scream for a whole debate

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 2 года назад +4

      Nah, Nick is more like a demagogue. Got a style and knows how to make himself look sympathetic and approachable, but thats just necessary to make people believe the absolute bullshit hes trying to sell.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 2 года назад

      @Hugo Boss Dude, if you think Nick Fuentes is "smart and logical", then youve already lost contact to reality. His political ideas are among the 1% most moronic shit out there.
      That guy has like 4 different ethnicities and wants to sell you some nazi shit about racial purity.

  • @colewatson4391
    @colewatson4391 2 года назад +23

    "As soon as I get banned on twitch" So when you making that cozy account buddy?

  • @dvanomaly420
    @dvanomaly420 2 года назад +26

    "as soon as I get banned on twitch" - Well that was quick.

  • @McconneIIRet
    @McconneIIRet 2 года назад +26

    Nothing like seeing two geniuses give their take!

  • @SeamoosesFTW
    @SeamoosesFTW 2 года назад +234

    The Q&A was pretty good. Weird to see Nick actually answer questions without trying to “meme” everything.

    • @kicsiqki
      @kicsiqki 2 года назад +25

      Without trying to meme? His whole take on the biolabs was a meme.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, at least at some points he seemed to drop the dumb troll character he played through the entire debate that ignored any points and just repeated Kremlin talking points, although it still kind of obscured a lot of who he really is and what he thinks.

    • @SeamoosesFTW
      @SeamoosesFTW 2 года назад

      @@kicsiqki That or he actually believes it who actually fucking knows tbh

    • @killaronjones3933
      @killaronjones3933 2 года назад +1

      except he did meme it all, like how he was saying Zelensky created the whole mess

    • @yining200
      @yining200 2 года назад +46

      @@killaronjones3933 It's not a meme. Him saying Zelensky created this mess is consistent with the views he expressed during the debate. His whole view was that Ukraine's move toward joining Nato and antagonizing of Russia had a big part in creating the situation, and Zelensky was at the head of that.

  • @paulspringwood7190
    @paulspringwood7190 2 года назад +81

    Wow Nick sounded like a tankie throughout this debate albeit a more intelligent one. I know he said he would support Stalinism if it meant shutting down all immigration but I thought that was just pure memes.

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +51

      Tankies are just fascists that haven't realized it yet.

    • @paulspringwood7190
      @paulspringwood7190 2 года назад +21

      @@nok9926 yeah I don’t plan on watching his content in depth anytime soon

    • @monke5403
      @monke5403 2 года назад +2

      @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor tankies are gay Reddit commies that have little overlap with “fascism” other than hating the US

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +3

      @@monke5403 They hate Jews and want to steal our wealth. If that doesn't make you a Nazi I don't know what does.

    • @napsec9807
      @napsec9807 2 года назад

      Nick doesn't give much a fuck about economics so he's pretty similar to a tankie

  • @regisglass5464
    @regisglass5464 2 года назад +128

    It's honestly weird to see conservatives, the guys screaming America first and demanding loyalty to the USA, suddenly throwing their support to Russia against the USA.

    • @CQchaos7474
      @CQchaos7474 2 года назад +123

      Russia isn't the one trying to get them to lose their job every time they say "wrong think"

    • @nilktots6380
      @nilktots6380 2 года назад +27

      @@CQchaos7474 It would be if Nick lived in or criticized Russia though. Also no itd send in the military or police to kill you or jail you. Its the height of ignorance to support one side just because they haven't hurt you as much yet because they're not able to mostly by virtue of the side your criticizing existing to make sure it can't

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад +29

      The American regime is evil not the people the system. You hate the American people but love the system. So you support the systems imperialism Nick opposes the systems imperialism.

    • @myself2noone
      @myself2noone 2 года назад +35

      @@p1b1harper Imperialism: When the U.S dose stuff.

    • @nilktots6380
      @nilktots6380 2 года назад +34

      @@p1b1harper Yeah its funny that imperialism seems limited to not letting nick say the nword or not letting russia invade countries for no reason.

  • @holdenaf9302
    @holdenaf9302 2 года назад +57

    Chemistry is always great between these two. Thanks for the content.

  • @ЯрославФ-ы7ж
    @ЯрославФ-ы7ж 2 года назад +120

    Wow it is so (not) weird that tankies and far-righters agree on the matter of supporting authoritarians.

    • @guffeluffe5987
      @guffeluffe5987 2 года назад +1

      Only there are more left wingers doing it

    • @zarlei6048
      @zarlei6048 2 года назад +3

      There's actually a split between the far-right. Nazis are more averse to taking sides in the conflict than right reactionaries who are very open to supporting Russia.

    • @guffeluffe5987
      @guffeluffe5987 2 года назад +3

      @@zarlei6048 ''far right nazis'' are like 0.1% of the population yet the modern right talks about them 99% of the time

    • @markzuckergecko621
      @markzuckergecko621 2 года назад +11

      @@guffeluffe5987 did you mean far left? Because most people on the right just laugh at the left calling everyone a Nazi, because there are basically no actual Nazis in the US or most western countries.

    • @guffeluffe5987
      @guffeluffe5987 2 года назад +2

      @@markzuckergecko621 ah yes I meant the left my bad

  • @CarnelianChris
    @CarnelianChris 2 года назад +50

    The problem with destiny’s view is he’s putting trust in everyone to do the right thing. He’s acting like there’s no corruption or back door deals. That’s how people fail for this

    • @httohot
      @httohot 2 года назад +4

      He is taking corruption into account. The problem is that you are biased so you believe that there is no corruption or little corruption on the side that you choose to support.......
      Example: The Iraq war, people like you believed that the corruption in Iraq was so bad that we needed to invade their country, people like you thought that we coudlnt trust Iraq so we are now justified in invading them or; putting Japanese or Jews into concentration camps because of "corruption", or putting people into poltical prision because of "corruption"
      All teh worst things int eh world are more or less justified by saying , "that group of people are corrupt and have back door deals we cant trust them so it is ok to do terrible things to them........" Thats literally what Putin and the soviets did for decades........ !!!!!!!!!YOU ARE FALLING FOR BASIC WELL DOCUMENTED PROPOGANDA!!!!!!!!!!

    • @onlyeveryone2253
      @onlyeveryone2253 2 года назад +5

      Who do you trust so much that you can confidently measure the corruption taking place in this situation?

    • @httohot
      @httohot 2 года назад +2

      @@onlyeveryone2253 We cant, so its actually harmfull to use it as the basis for an action that will kill thousands...
      A reasonable assumption to make is that both sides are corrupt
      and the reasonable followup would be to ignore the corruption and instead focus on the bigger picture.....the actual actions taken by each group

    • @onlyeveryone2253
      @onlyeveryone2253 2 года назад

      @@httohot So you say that in any society it is always impossible to meassure corupption? That is the direct implication of your statement. Have you entered the 50/50 brain trap. If I am not sure it must be a 50% chance that the worst thing is happening.

    • @niggardlylad2008
      @niggardlylad2008 2 года назад

      Trans alert

  • @NymphieJP
    @NymphieJP 2 года назад +13

    Cozy stream when? lol RIP Destiny's twitch again.

    • @dicktracy9473
      @dicktracy9473 2 года назад

      What happened? I am a yt pleb with no social media

    • @NymphieJP
      @NymphieJP 2 года назад +2

      @@dicktracy9473 Got shutdown because he had the nerve to say trans women have an advantage over cis-women in certain sporting events.

    • @dicktracy9473
      @dicktracy9473 2 года назад +2

      ​@@NymphieJP Of all things too, can't wait to see how this healthy narrative continues to grow.

  • @BrendanishLeo
    @BrendanishLeo 2 года назад +104

    This was a weird debate (the actual debate not q&a) because it was oddly cordial until they got close to the end.
    I kind of liked it even if I find nick deplorable.

    • @JulianSloman
      @JulianSloman 2 года назад +23

      @Temp until he doesn't - towards the end he did a bunch of bad faith stuff, like strawmanning / misrepresenting Destiny's position / putting words in his mouth

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад +9

      Honestly I'm not sure I did. This is the problem with this stuff. He can lie and make shitty arguments, but since he's sort of "fun" and clearly not as emotionally involved as a lot of dumb lefties, people think that means he's actually ok or that he's making reasonable points. The arguments he makes are so dumb that I'm not sure even he believes them, which makes it easier for him to stay aloof and not get mad when they're contradicted.

    • @AveSequoia
      @AveSequoia 2 года назад

      @@krombopulos_michael where’s the lie

    • @holdenaf9302
      @holdenaf9302 2 года назад +4

      I was gonna say they’re early debates consisted of relentless ad homs. Although it was nice seeing an orderly debate, I kinda missed that aspect a bit lol

    • @iwannabethekid34xc
      @iwannabethekid34xc 2 года назад

      @@krombopulos_michael ok redditlord, go ahead and refute some of his arguments lol

  • @chickenandksivideoreviewer9739
    @chickenandksivideoreviewer9739 2 года назад +20

    This was much better than the actual debate tbh

    • @Greenblatt-kv5fr
      @Greenblatt-kv5fr 2 года назад

      The debate they had the next day was even more savage, check it out on Politically Provoked channel on Odysee

  • @Tamaxlia
    @Tamaxlia 2 года назад +33

    I left this conversation a lot earlier when it was live but this section is actually facinating

    • @bonda_racing3579
      @bonda_racing3579 2 года назад +1

      How you left early? You didn't find the debate Engaging?

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 2 года назад +42

    21:00
    Russia isn’t a competitor. Russia wants to be a competitor. Those are not the same thing Nick

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад +10

      Yeah, if Putin truly wanted Russia to be a competitor to the US, he wouldn't have been putting the economy further in the toilet for 20 years. You can't be a great power without money. Russia is not even really a second tier power because of his awful leadership. If it wasn't for nuclear weapons, Russia would not even be a particularly prevelant player in world politics.

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад +5

      Please tell NATO.

    • @regisglass5464
      @regisglass5464 2 года назад +2

      @@p1b1harper correct, didn't NATO see Russia as not a competitor to the point they asked them if they'd like to join NATO?

    • @christosoustabasidis3228
      @christosoustabasidis3228 2 года назад +4

      @@krombopulos_michael The last thing you can say about Vlad is that he made the economy worse. Russia in the 90's was far, far worse. Come on man

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 2 года назад +2

      This is akin to screeching "its KYIV not Kiev!" Reddit tier brain rot

  • @LonnyH
    @LonnyH 2 года назад +19

    This was a fucking heavy weight championship of a debate holy shit. Fuentes is insane but God damn if he isn't sharp and rhetorically effective.

    • @Scawtsauce
      @Scawtsauce 2 года назад +2

      He is a full time propagandists

    • @Greenblatt-kv5fr
      @Greenblatt-kv5fr 2 года назад

      The debate they had the next day was even more savage, check it out on Politically Provoked channel on Odysee

  • @libertas_americana
    @libertas_americana 2 года назад +59

    I love how these conversations are slowly bringing Nick and Destiny closer together.

    • @botep5529
      @botep5529 2 года назад

      I'm from the future here to tell you that they are best friends now.

  • @bronzeowl9
    @bronzeowl9 2 года назад +10

    32:40 BIG OOF

  • @TheAvgZombieKillers
    @TheAvgZombieKillers 2 года назад +26

    That timing on Obamna when he was talking about a glass ceiling was too good. 27:30

  • @Nyquiltips1
    @Nyquiltips1 2 года назад +74

    This Fuentes guy seems like he really knows his stuff

    • @OrganicDolphin
      @OrganicDolphin 2 года назад +1

      He’s racist

    • @Nyquiltips1
      @Nyquiltips1 2 года назад +10

      @@OrganicDolphin so what

    • @noahc.6901
      @noahc.6901 2 года назад +1

      @@OrganicDolphin lol

    • @Nozoroth
      @Nozoroth 2 года назад +11

      @@OrganicDolphin yeah anyway, this Fuentes guy seems like he really knows his stuff

    • @rodiculous9464
      @rodiculous9464 2 года назад

      @@friendlymerc7276 the problem with people pike nick Fuentes is that they read history books _very selectively_ much like their hero Mr putin and then miss valuable context

  • @BigCountry1
    @BigCountry1 2 года назад +22

    kills me how destiny always takes up for biden just ignores all the complete fails

    • @onlyeveryone2253
      @onlyeveryone2253 2 года назад +3

      Like finally pulling out of Afghanistan after twenty years of chaos? The only fail I can see is that he is not charismatic enough

    • @BigCountry1
      @BigCountry1 2 года назад +12

      @@onlyeveryone2253 lol that's the only fail you see haha hope that's a joke

    • @BigCountry1
      @BigCountry1 2 года назад +3

      @@onlyeveryone2253 inflation, immigration, build back better bs, covid lies and mismanagement just to name a few and let's not forget it's been 1 year only

    • @itryesitr8053
      @itryesitr8053 2 года назад

      what fails?

    • @BigCountry1
      @BigCountry1 2 года назад +1

      @@itryesitr8053 inflation, covid mismanagement, destroyed out energy sector on day 1!, just a few

  • @bryonflaten6619
    @bryonflaten6619 2 года назад +11

    The last 5 minutes of this didn’t age well…

  • @ogreshavelayers1002
    @ogreshavelayers1002 2 года назад +5

    Love when you two talk. Have nothing but respect for both of you.

  • @Runesocesius
    @Runesocesius 2 года назад +111

    Groypers defending Russia was honestly the twist I didn't expect

    • @pollytix7271
      @pollytix7271 2 года назад +19

      They're against the current american/western establishment and the current liberal order so hard that they think any actor that goes up against it or sows division is worth it, be it Iran, Syria, China or Russia. Alternative right/dissident people have for long held those positions. It's just unfortunate that they think it's fitting to be so contrarian to where supporting enemies, extensions of globo-homo, and a war is what they're up to.

    • @PuddingXXL
      @PuddingXXL 2 года назад +7

      Eh. Putin was also big on authoritarianism which is a value many far right people share. Far left people as well mind you.
      We saw it here in germany in 2014 and now in 2022

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад +14

      Putin is pretty fascist, and definitely a lot more so than American politicians, so it's not super surprising. They openly buck things like the economy and material interests in favour of nationalism and militarism, and they emphasise the importance of a leader who appears "strong" over any kind of democracy or accountability.
      You could say similar stuff about China but Putin is white and Fuentes said recently at his conference that Russia is strong because its not a diverse country (which is wrong both because Russia isn't really very strong, but also because Russia is very ethnically diverse).

    • @nightshade71986
      @nightshade71986 2 года назад +17

      Russia is an far right, nationalist, authoritarian nation. It makes perfect sense.

    • @johnglenn6364
      @johnglenn6364 2 года назад +9

      I love Putin!

  • @shadowtale123
    @shadowtale123 2 года назад +151

    Nick is like destiny's arch nemesis lol

    • @CapnDGAF
      @CapnDGAF 2 года назад +55

      Maybe an antithesis, but hardly a nemesis.

    • @peterplopper269
      @peterplopper269 2 года назад +10

      Isnt that vaush or hasan

    • @justdo-it2748
      @justdo-it2748 2 года назад +1

      @@jamesmcdougal2 Libshit

    • @CapnDGAF
      @CapnDGAF 2 года назад +2

      @@smith5796 vaush is no friend i would ever want.

    • @viziontrex
      @viziontrex 2 года назад +5

      @@jamesmcdougal2 destiny reveals how much of a character Nick Fuentes is and how juvenile he is

  • @notserp7229
    @notserp7229 2 года назад +10

    I like this version of nick and Steven much more

  • @LuisRomeroLopez
    @LuisRomeroLopez 2 года назад +18

    22:48 Notice how most of tankies would agree with Nick on giving more importance to sovereignty than human rights when it comes to totalitarian states.

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 2 года назад +7

      Do you believe a country must lose it rights to sovereignty when theres a human right violation?

    • @LuisRomeroLopez
      @LuisRomeroLopez 2 года назад +3

      @@DieNibelungenliad If the violation of human rights is deliberate, I believe that the rest of the international community has the right (and duty) to coerce that country. If not, human rights simply not matter.

    • @wangusbeef86
      @wangusbeef86 2 года назад

      @@DieNibelungenliad except that its Ukraine that's losing its sovereignty AND getting human rights violations. Russia only has human rights violations at the moment from its own government, but that's been happening for a while before all this mess anyway

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 2 года назад +5

      @@LuisRomeroLopez So when the US was torturing inmates at black sites, Guantanamo Bay, and Abu Ghuraib; did the rest of the international community have the right and duty to coerce the United States?

    • @LuisRomeroLopez
      @LuisRomeroLopez 2 года назад +2

      @@DieNibelungenliad Bad equivalence. We found out about the cases you mention through the media. There were also investigations into those cases. (If you think that being tried in a Russian court is the same as being tried in a Canadian or American court, then maybe you are too deep inside the developed country bubble to understand.)
      Can you seriously imagine Russian media publicizing crimes committed in Ukraine by its own army, especially when the regime enacted -expressly- a law to punish with 15 years in prison whoever does not have an editorial line?

  • @brandonden795
    @brandonden795 2 года назад +7

    The Ghost of Omaha is a 10/10 meme

  • @ajrespecter2075
    @ajrespecter2075 2 года назад +29

    Thank you for this I gotta give you props your probably my favorite twitch streamer i disagree with a few things but your actually genuine when you talk unlike the rest

  • @wizzzer1337
    @wizzzer1337 2 года назад +82

    turns out Nazbol goes both ways, not only the Commie to Nazi pipeline, but the Nazi to Commie pipeline too.

    • @FafliXx
      @FafliXx 2 года назад +13

      There's a reason they called themselves national socialists.
      Pretending to care about workers is very popular

    • @REDDAWNproject
      @REDDAWNproject 2 года назад +43

      Its almost like nazism has a core, endemic socialist angle, even if its not supported by Marxists.
      The right left dichotomy isn't an accurate method of observing politics

    • @jamesmorrow1646
      @jamesmorrow1646 2 года назад +8

      @@REDDAWNproject Bollocks. The NSDAP was far Right to the core.

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 2 года назад +23

      @@REDDAWNproject The real problem is that when communism is described as left wing it means economically left wing, but when fascism is described as right wing it means socially right wing. Although communism, being an anarchist ideology, opposes fascism, which is built around a dictator, you can have a fascist socialist. It also makes it even less clear when many self proclaimed communist states were dictatorships. The language either needs to be made way more uniform or just scrapped all together and I honestly don't know which would be easier.

    • @jascu4251
      @jascu4251 2 года назад +1

      @@REDDAWNproject I think it WAS an accurate method of observing politics, but has been unraveling over the last 8-10 years and particularly the last two - where authoritarians on the 'left' and 'right' are no longer disavowing each other but are beginning to build bridges and stress their commonalities. Support for Putin has accelerated this on both sides, but it had been happening for a while before that too

  • @Jolfgard
    @Jolfgard 2 года назад +16

    that Fuentes guy's opinion and demeanour makes me kinda angry, guess that makes me an extremist.

  • @carsoncraft
    @carsoncraft 2 года назад +22

    "America First" is debating that America is terrible and Russia is great. Truly bizarre.

    • @carsoncraft
      @carsoncraft 2 года назад +10

      @@thistagworked nothing shows strength like bowing down to a country 10% of our size (economically)

    • @pollytix7271
      @pollytix7271 2 года назад +8

      @@1birdwatcherr No. What he said is entirely coherent and he made many good points.

    • @justwannagrill8548
      @justwannagrill8548 2 года назад +22

      The American regime does not equal the American nation.

    • @johnglenn6364
      @johnglenn6364 2 года назад +5

      Yes, the American regime is horrible, and the American government is corrupt.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад +5

      Or another white, far right activists support a far right regime over a liberal democratic one.

  • @NewCyrenaic
    @NewCyrenaic 2 года назад +5

    “as soon as I get banned from twitch I guess” oh no

  • @skizCustoms
    @skizCustoms 2 года назад +6

    Nick > Destiny

  • @miikavuorio6925
    @miikavuorio6925 2 года назад +13

    In the end some chatter opposed the long opening statement, but I just want to give the opinion that I thought the long opening statement was actually really good and powerful

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 2 года назад +25

    27:50
    The answer is no. Nick would not step back from America First even if it means that AF can go mainstream because of it. AF isn’t about what is best for America. It is about Nick

    • @ab8817
      @ab8817 2 года назад +9

      Exactly. If Nick was actually concerned about having an effectual political "movement" as he likes to say, he'd try to be concerned about having an audience that is above voting age (they're mostly not). The biggest threat to Nick's "movement" is his audience growing out of it.

    • @MinecraftGuy07928
      @MinecraftGuy07928 2 года назад +8

      Assuming that the majority of Nick's viewership is below voting age, how is that necessarily a bad strategy when trying to build a long term movement?

    • @vanomxxx
      @vanomxxx 2 года назад +2

      @@MinecraftGuy07928 depends if they mature or not , as a kid groyper if its a serious belief that endures other life experience and influences or just a edgy phase .

    • @Beef-bullion
      @Beef-bullion 2 года назад

      AF is nothing without Nick, ride or die

  • @YHBTSTLL
    @YHBTSTLL 2 года назад +35

    Destiny finally asked at the 14:40 mark what's been burning in my head throughout the entire debate. It was insane watching Nick debate against what I thought were his own interests.

    • @Lost7one
      @Lost7one 2 года назад +3

      What if a German patriot resisted the naze regime during WW2. Would he/she be insane for resisting Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime?

    • @Blexg
      @Blexg 2 года назад +9

      @@Lost7one there are worms eating your brain stem if you think what Nick does is remotely similar to that

    • @Lost7one
      @Lost7one 2 года назад +4

      @@Blexg Just using an extreme example: Why would Fuentes who is a paleocon be in favor of the current American foreign policy? It's beyond stupid to think he should be a neo-con or neo-lib just because he says he is "America first", as if the uniparty dems and reps you have now are doing something good when they go around the world murdering people to maintain their "liberal world order".

    • @ziinx5899
      @ziinx5899 2 года назад +6

      Its simple really, the expansion of American hegemony only benefits the American regime, not the American people. The regime in charge of the country are completely corrupt and are oppressing dissidents. Its best to not allow them to gain any more power than they already have.

    • @Blexg
      @Blexg 2 года назад +7

      @@ziinx5899 what are you talking about? The expansion of American influence has absolutely benefitted the American people. Fuel prices in America are the cheapest in the world, and these massive trade organizations have created an insanely complicated supply chain that can get services to your door step within literally hours. Not everything America does is justified, but if there’s going to be a global hyper power, I want it to be America.
      Additionally, this idea that America doesn’t need to be the global super police is dumb because there isn’t an alternative. Either America commands the global narrative, or someone else (cough cough China or Russia) does. The world overwhelmingly supports the US, because we are much better masters than China or Russia would be.
      It’s not a matter of whether or not a country /should/ be the global power, it’s a matter of realizing there is going to be a global power anyways, and realizing that America is the most preferable option

  • @NoMoreDogma
    @NoMoreDogma 2 года назад +16

    Fuentes is top tier. I hope he becomes president one day

  • @HeyLady.
    @HeyLady. 2 года назад +2

    Nick and Destiny’s personalities mesh really well. I think Nick really appreciates Destiny’s approach to him and appreciates the opportunity to speak to a different audience.

  • @undertaker3ooo
    @undertaker3ooo 2 года назад +5

    Ah! August!! Thank you!

  • @Cheesy-t1h
    @Cheesy-t1h 2 года назад +1

    Destiny says Eastern Europeans are desperate to get into NATO, but that also includes Russia, they wanted to join too, in fact Russians in general are fairly westernised yet we treat them like enemies

  • @GGE
    @GGE 2 года назад +40

    8:28 he literally asked a question and re-framed it as "interrupting" when Destiny responded to it. then his counter-argument was just "no u"

    • @warren7046
      @warren7046 2 года назад +6

      It was rhetorical, you on the spectrum?

    • @lukesheridan301
      @lukesheridan301 2 года назад

      >Bio research labs
      >funds students

    • @mario167100
      @mario167100 2 года назад

      A classic slippery Nick move

  • @kingjames7904
    @kingjames7904 2 года назад +2

    Destiny has grown on me so fkn much i fkn love the guy bcs he kinda beat the Republican and Democrat in me to the middle and to question my beliefs very nice very pog

  • @Choke-a-Cola
    @Choke-a-Cola 2 года назад +21

    support of russia goes from far left to far right, it just skips over anyone within reason

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +7

      I always say that there is no *practical* difference between Nazis and Communists: they both have camps and hate Jews.

    • @Earthad23
      @Earthad23 2 года назад +3

      @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor they both want top down control of the population, they think they can legislate proper human behavior, they are all anti freedom.

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад

      I can respect both sides at least they haven't crushed their balls sitting on that fence.

    • @vanomxxx
      @vanomxxx 2 года назад

      Yes

    • @Earthad23
      @Earthad23 2 года назад

      @@p1b1harper the middle is the only location where the truth is relevant, I don’t respect peoples need to be associated with the critical mass of popular opinion based on whatever misinformation their talking head decided to feed them that day, in America the truth is the middle.

  • @kunspitzz
    @kunspitzz 2 года назад +22

    Nick is right, one day, they will be fighting on the same side. He is already half way there.

  • @ParchedPinemarten
    @ParchedPinemarten 2 года назад +25

    Come to Cozy, Destiny!

    • @familyvideos7621
      @familyvideos7621 2 года назад +17

      @Destiny Fan 12 Everyone on cozy knows Destiny’s talking points. Nobody feels challenged by them.

    • @user-wu1us1yh3n
      @user-wu1us1yh3n 2 года назад +10

      @@familyvideos7621 I don't think that's the case.
      There is a massive difference between knowing a surface level response to a point vs actually being able to defend it in a full fledged debate. This was on full display during the Dest Vaush vs Striker Allsup 2v2 debate.

    • @ParchedPinemarten
      @ParchedPinemarten 2 года назад +7

      @Destiny Fan 12 Your name is literally Destiny Fan.

    • @familyvideos7621
      @familyvideos7621 2 года назад +7

      @@user-wu1us1yh3n Striker and Allsup do not at all represent the streamers on cozy.

    • @user-wu1us1yh3n
      @user-wu1us1yh3n 2 года назад +3

      @@nanisupreme well that's good. You can join his discord server and chat with him then. He will finally get a break from league and we will get some content.

  • @kentemccray7957
    @kentemccray7957 2 года назад +1

    This is nice to see these two used to be so volatile now they both see they are both people.

  • @mr.hubiverse876
    @mr.hubiverse876 2 года назад +42

    Credit where it’s due, nick is very well spoken and probably be seen as incredibly persuasive. Unfortunately he’s backing pretty stupid positions. But I guess that’s my bias showing lol

    • @Lazzil
      @Lazzil 2 года назад +24

      That's not bias, it's baseline human intelligence.

    • @Crispman_777
      @Crispman_777 2 года назад +3

      It's only bias if you're not giving the other side consideration. Like you can consider flat earth arguments honestly with an open mind but it's still a stupid argument.

    • @Lazzil
      @Lazzil 2 года назад +6

      @@doyltruddy902 My opinion of Fuentes is that he's smart enough to handle himself well in a debate. Now as far as Russia goes, I'm inclined to believe that he's either sorely mistaken or dishonest. At 1:51:57 he doesn't think that Ukraine will be taken over by Russia against their will. I can't think of any reasonable way to defend this take.

    • @Marqrk
      @Marqrk 2 года назад +3

      @@doyltruddy902 being or seeming intelligent doesn’t mean you have a better point than anyone else by default. There are people with doctorates in tech who fall for anti-vaxx talking points that are disproven with 5 minutes on a search engine of your choice. Don’t fall for appeals to intelligence, actually pay attention to the arguments and what’s at play.

    • @rodiculous9464
      @rodiculous9464 2 года назад

      @@doyltruddy902 because it is a fundamentally flawed and disproven argument that smart people can't believe dumb things, also perception of "smartness" is relative

  • @TheJWRB
    @TheJWRB 2 года назад +21

    Does nick not understand that China and Russia have students, professors and doctors that go to America, Canada and the UK as well as many other countries to these Biolabs to share what they found. When i was in Beijing in 2019, 2 People went to inner mongolia for a week and returned to Beijing, It turned out that the two people ended up eating some meat which was found to have an old disease, that disease? The Plague... Beijing was in panic and luckily those two were contained properly AND cured. How were they cured, Chinese scientists and professors asked the UK for help and had scientists go out to demonstarate how to break down the disease at one of these biochemiocal compounds. Russia DEFINITLEY has biolabs in other countries that are developing weapons, as does China, it's not that hard to understand, but Nicks entire character is avoiding any serious points that don't suit his narative and ultimatley that's why I think he doesn't actually believe anything he says and just says stuff for the content and hype.

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +4

      In Nick's mind he's talking about Government Controlled Bio-Weapons Labs, he sees exchange students and shared funding as totally incomparable.

    • @TheJWRB
      @TheJWRB 2 года назад +1

      @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor yes and it would be naive to think that China doesn’t have these labs in Africa or Russia doesn’t have these labs in Kazakhstan for example. But Russian media saying that they are working on a weapon that targets Russian DNA makes no sense to Putins overall stated goal which is to take back Kiev and the SU, because Russians and Ukrainians have more or less the same DNA 😂 it’s a pathetic attempt to justify and unjustifiable war hahaha

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад

      @@TheJWRB Tell him that, not me. I'm just pointing at the disconnect.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад +2

      He was clearly 100% unaware of how any of this worked.

  • @harryb12993
    @harryb12993 2 года назад +15

    6:20 Destiny's twitch tos instincts kick in and cause a heart attack for about 1.43 seconds

  • @Epherneralps1
    @Epherneralps1 2 года назад +3

    Great stuff from both commentators

  • @Silverwidows
    @Silverwidows 2 года назад +11

    Lets say it's just the NATO issue - If Russia takes over Ukraine then they will be like "well Now NATO is on our borders with poland, hungry and slovakia, lets invade them". Where does Russia stop before it runs out of NATO countries on it's borders to invade.

    • @grabbers6520
      @grabbers6520 2 года назад +1

      they won't invade a nato country

    • @rocketrelm1125
      @rocketrelm1125 2 года назад +2

      @@grabbers6520 Which is why all the other countries in Europe should hurry up and get into NATO, before Russia "borders" them and they need to, in destiny's words, "cuck themselves forever". Or just arm with nukes, frankly.

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +1

      After Ukraine IDK if the Russian army is up to the task of blitzing a 2nd country.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 2 года назад

      @@novinnovations4026 It probably wouldn't take too long for the likes of Sweden or Finland, because their economies are already in a good place.

    • @crocox7536
      @crocox7536 2 года назад

      Moscow is close to ukraine period.

  • @DreamSnype
    @DreamSnype Год назад +1

    Here 9 months later with Ukraine still putting up a fight 😅

  • @lrn_news9171
    @lrn_news9171 2 года назад +4

    People have to admit, Nick Fuentes makes good points here, it's not far fetched.

  • @moonchildspirit5581
    @moonchildspirit5581 Год назад +1

    Damm, he cheers Belarus. Really it's been 8 months, seems to me, Ukraine and Zelensky seems to be holding their own quite well. Russia has some antiquated arms and equipment, i am quite surprised at the lack of equip and arms... 8 generals gone ,unprepared. The Russians took a beating...seems to me.

  • @AnjewTate
    @AnjewTate 2 года назад +8

    Nick is dropping facts. He didn’t miss a beat. I don’t mean “facts” in a colloquial way. I mean legit historical facts with receipts!

  • @toecutter303
    @toecutter303 2 года назад +1

    "You're already halve way there"
    Perfect

  • @rikudou947
    @rikudou947 2 года назад +3

    What i took from this vid is that Destiny is into Futanari.

  • @emperorbobo7644
    @emperorbobo7644 2 года назад +18

    What everyone came to see.
    13:35 Nick Fuentes tries to tarnish Destiny with a seal of approval.
    14:17 Destiny asks why nick is Russia first on this.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 2 года назад +13

    Biolabs…
    sounds a lot like Iraq’s WMDs

    • @nilktots6380
      @nilktots6380 2 года назад +2

      at least a nuke can be built in theory and not SLAVDIE a failed metal gear fantasy concept.

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles 2 года назад +4

      Over 26 bio labs in Ukraine confirmed by Newland and Rubio

    • @nilktots6380
      @nilktots6380 2 года назад

      @@FazeParticles biolabs arent weapon labs lol, also we wouldnt have a bioweapon project on the border thats dumb.

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 2 года назад

      @@nilktots6380 if it’s a secret you would.

    • @nilktots6380
      @nilktots6380 2 года назад

      @@Lurch685 no you wouldnt, because why have them on the border when they can be and indeed benefit the most being far away from the target nation? also you cant build slavdie its just not how biology works. building a lab with a higher chance of having your personnel being infected by lingering in proximity with the target and risk discovery would be moronic to the nth degree.
      and no not every wackjob conspiracy can be brushed with "oh so you think theyre not moronic?" probably not to the level of a toddler being asked where to place bioweapons and mistaking it for a germ turret that needs border proximity with a series of labs like a freaking maginot line of biolabs

  • @gr33kfr3ak8
    @gr33kfr3ak8 2 года назад +1

    Great Content

  • @dgulag3733
    @dgulag3733 2 года назад +19

    I love seeing these guys debate. Both solid

    • @dgulag3733
      @dgulag3733 2 года назад +1

      @@Marcus-143 lol so we half agree

  • @KidoBedo
    @KidoBedo 2 года назад +17

    But how WILL Russia be able to see their LGBTQ content on Netflix? it's so unfair

  • @dtubbs
    @dtubbs 2 года назад +22

    Booger Nick part II- Moscow Mucus strikes back!

  • @jessiejb4684
    @jessiejb4684 8 месяцев назад +1

    We wouldn’t let Russia join nato because then we’d compete with Russia within nato, plus nato needs purpose.

  • @beinggood5720
    @beinggood5720 2 года назад +4

    Top ten Latinx anime crossovers

  • @aceykerr8752
    @aceykerr8752 Год назад +1

    "Russia is gonna steamroll Ukraine" -Nick Fuentes, circa 2022.

  • @snoopsauce6294
    @snoopsauce6294 2 года назад +3

    Classic, good job Dest.

  • @broplzjuststop
    @broplzjuststop 2 года назад

    In terms of national security/defense, what’s the point of NATO if members can just decide to not help out in another member’s war?

  • @0bzen22
    @0bzen22 2 года назад +9

    Sovereignty, sure... I guess no one stopped to consider Ukraine's sovereignty.

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles 2 года назад +1

      They did and said no you shall not have sovereignty.

    • @randompanda3415
      @randompanda3415 2 года назад +1

      This is about power politics, which Nick clarified multiple times. This isn't about cloudcuckooland rainbow "everyone gets what they want" bullshit. To begin with, Ukraine is already ruled by the US since the color revolution in 2014.

  • @yellow8686
    @yellow8686 2 года назад +1

    This is wholesom

  • @anthonymaestas4863
    @anthonymaestas4863 2 года назад +5

    This guy seems like he want to be the next tucker Carlson. The way he is talking, smiling and laughing when he is challanged.

  • @MrSonicAdvance
    @MrSonicAdvance 2 года назад +1

    There are so many leftist grifters debating in bad faith, it's refreshing to see Destiny debate from a left-leaning perspective in good faith. I think I find Destiny more trustworthy than Nick, even if I don't agree with his politics, at least I know where you are with Destiny. Other left-leaning e-people could learn a lot from Destiny's debating technique.

  • @mimked
    @mimked 2 года назад +9

    Six minutes in and I get the feeling that Nick is just being a troll. Hard to tell if he actually means any of that. Example of Poe's Law, I suppose.

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад +22

      Just say you are confused.

    • @Crispman_777
      @Crispman_777 2 года назад +3

      That's sort of the point. Endless plausible deniability

    • @mimked
      @mimked 2 года назад +1

      @@p1b1harper but I'm not confused. I just think he sounds like a troll, especially when he seems to be purposely overdoing it.

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад +3

      @@mimked That's because you are sheltered. You don't expose yourself to alternate thought, opinions, beliefs. I know everything you believe and why you believe it. You can't shock or confuse me.

    • @boltskyline2957
      @boltskyline2957 2 года назад +1

      @@p1b1harper Epic. Coomer doesn't know what's going on when someone says something that wasn't promoted in the Disney movies and stuff

  • @RAS-oz5ph
    @RAS-oz5ph 2 года назад +2

    32:40 o boy.

  • @melgibson1211
    @melgibson1211 2 года назад +4

    Looks like Destiny will be streaming on Cozy

  • @julioromero238
    @julioromero238 2 года назад

    Good vid, I enjoyed the convo.

  • @spicyleonardoii4289
    @spicyleonardoii4289 2 года назад +5

    nick won

    • @chuggacaprisunfan
      @chuggacaprisunfan 2 года назад +1

      I didn’t even think it was possible to have this takeaway from the video lmao

  • @zacharyh5419
    @zacharyh5419 2 года назад +1

    Nick and destiny are best friends forever

  • @Negativ3G
    @Negativ3G 2 года назад +9

    I don't come here much, Is Nick playing devils advocate here or is he genuinely pro-russian aggression? He seems so sarcastic like he's memeing but I don't know much about him.

    • @Anvil35
      @Anvil35 2 года назад +1

      A truly serious political actor

    • @bertthompson4748
      @bertthompson4748 2 года назад +13

      Genuinly pro Russian. He loves their Neo Nazi, white nationalist, fascist, imperialist dictatorships and wants it brought to america.

    • @secondeye1574
      @secondeye1574 2 года назад +6

      I see this a lot about him. I don’t get why it’s so hard to tell.
      He’s serious and uses the veneer of joking around so people just see him as a harmless shitposter. Though I think since going corporate he’s trying to reel it in (Referring to himself as a white nationalist and saying ‘just kidding’ even though he previously would’ve worn that like a badge of honor)

    • @Shadowh8ter
      @Shadowh8ter 2 года назад +3

      ​@@secondeye1574 I've followed Nick for a pretty long time and he's never really identified as a White nationalist. In the past I'm sure he's consider himself pro white, and still to this day you can probably find context or clips of him giving off that kind of sentiment, but that's different than white nationalism.

    • @bertthompson4748
      @bertthompson4748 2 года назад

      @@Shadowh8ter hahaha. You can just listen to him debating soul maths with destiny to prove hed get into white america despite being "Fuentes". Why lie about this?

  • @tetsuoumezawa5833
    @tetsuoumezawa5833 Год назад

    19:56
    lol
    lmao

  • @johngamer-bp3pc
    @johngamer-bp3pc 2 года назад +15

    so, does fuentes thinks that destiny plays a character? that he act left, but he is really right wing? like how zherka thinks destiny is secretly redpill?

    • @Shadowh8ter
      @Shadowh8ter 2 года назад +9

      It's more so just a meme, it's not serious.

    • @kyram6641
      @kyram6641 2 года назад

      Na, the online left just seems to hate liberals which destiny happens to be. Destiny has been very polarizing to both the left and right. Fuentes is just flirting around the idea of Destiny being far right which is way further from the truth. Also adds fuel to the fire already created by stupid lefties lol.

    • @Andre-tc9sb
      @Andre-tc9sb 2 года назад +1

      What a weird question. it seems so obvious that he is joking around.

    • @johngamer-bp3pc
      @johngamer-bp3pc 2 года назад

      @@Andre-tc9sb you mean how sam hyde was just joking?

    • @qactus4031
      @qactus4031 2 года назад

      @@nanisupreme As if the far left didn't have enough ammo against him or even needed real ammo in the first place.

  • @jacksondune327
    @jacksondune327 2 года назад

    This was a great debate

  • @kingoliever1
    @kingoliever1 2 года назад +7

    lol ralph is so drunk again, that he is still around is a miracle whit his record from the Pill stream to leaking his own s tape.

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +3

      Don't forget having his purse stolen in Portugal

    • @kingoliever1
      @kingoliever1 2 года назад +1

      @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor The list would get really long, was he not also convicted again?

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 года назад +1

      @@kingoliever1 lol who knows

    • @nilktots6380
      @nilktots6380 2 года назад

      @@kingoliever1 nah now hes on an arc of leaving his new babymama to give birth alone to stream this debate then pretending after this debate is over that he was kicked out of the hospital

    • @kingoliever1
      @kingoliever1 2 года назад +1

      @@nilktots6380 Always a great laugh whit the Gunt.

  • @strogarth6752
    @strogarth6752 2 года назад +2

    The income point is just bullshit lmao. If anything it's the opposite, poorer people dominate sports because (which I can imagine) is the lack of opportunity it makes the risk of putting your all into being the 1 in 1 million to get selected worth it to get out of poverty. Where as a richer person with more opportunity might see this statistic as unfavourable and decide to do something else.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 2 года назад +5

    When Z’s job before being president of Ukraine was literally acting like he was president of Ukraine

    • @MrObveous777
      @MrObveous777 2 года назад +6

      huh... "fake it till you make it" is actually true

    • @Klamev
      @Klamev 2 года назад

      At least he was an actual actor and not a reality tv star

    • @Boredasfuck29
      @Boredasfuck29 2 года назад

      @@Klamev That doesn't make his case at all...

  • @albertojeda6302
    @albertojeda6302 2 года назад +1

    32:44 😂 lol destiny called it

  • @TwilightSentinel
    @TwilightSentinel 2 года назад +17

    Destiny, your opening statement was frickin perfect. And incredibly professional.

    • @p1b1harper
      @p1b1harper 2 года назад +4

      He didn't make his case it was a list of inb4s that didn't represent his opponents views.

  • @meebond
    @meebond 2 года назад +2

    When Fuentes brought up Western Hubris, I had to laugh - he had the very face thereof, arguing with the stoic Destiny who, while definitely confident, would bow to information if it contradicted what he thinks he knows.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 2 года назад

      Especially considering Fuentes is doing it with such an obvious, transparent lie. The US literally paid a chinese Lab in Wuhan to research and modify corona-viruses.