The 5 Biggest Steals and Reaches of the 2024 NHL Draft
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Using the NHL trade value chart, I managed to calculate which picks were the biggest steal and the biggest reaches of the 2024 draft. The question is, which GMs deserve to get flamed for going off the board with their draft picks.
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As a life long Sharks fan I absolutely loved this draft. Combine last year's draft I'm stoked
The new regime is totally winning compared to the Doug Wilson era.
Go Habs Go !!! What an awesome draft year for the Montreal Canadiens.
Canadiens had a solid draft outside of Demidov, but getting him at 5 was crazy good.
what a solid week !! #slafsigned+Demidov
as a Sens fan I am salty as hell about your draft but I will congratulate your team on a job well done.
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Felt the exact same when they passed on Brady to pick freaking Kotkianemi lol.
Minnesota had an amazing draft. In addition to Buium and Ritchie, drafting Kiviharju in the late fourth round is incredible value.
As a habs fan I am so happy for Demigod and some even think he couldve went 1st overall and I am so happy with what Kent Hughes did to this team, I hope we will get out of the dark age soin, and its looking great!
Well done. Thanks for the insight.
Thanks
I don’t think Sennecke would have lasted long if the Ducks hadn’t taken him. If Demidov and Lindstrom were gone, Montreal might have taken him or Iginla at 5.
agree i think habs take him if Demigod and lindstrom go before us
@@r6hokage357nah iginla was the other one no chance the habs would have pick him
The ducks took him over Demidov. They're fools.
@@MrJimbeam1116 time will tell. They obviously saw some great upside in Sennecke. His highlight reel is pretty insane for a 6’2 kid who’s still seems to be growing. I personally think Demidov>>>Sennecke now and potentially.
@@cecaju9516Demidov measured in closer to 6ft1 at development camp. I think he’s not as strong as Michkov, but has more to fill out than Michkov. Who’s going to be better?? Let them play, that’s the only way we’ll see. But, the teams have a responsibility to put the players together, something Montreal failed to do in almost 14 years with Price
Sennecke has moves like Rick Nash but hasn’t filled out yet. He will be a force. I trust Pat Verbeek’s judgement and I’m not even a Ducks fan. But man I’m loving their young core and prospects. And new sweaters and colors are just ridiculous.
Wild did trade to 12 to get Buium. Worth the third round pick, though.
Its funny when people are talking about steals and reaches because it is based on what? The consensus rankings are just public opinions made by random people who copies other lists. It has been said MANY times about this draft that between #2 and #12 it could go in any direction. Well the draft just proved that. To me, its impossible to say who is a steal or who is a reach until we wait about 3-4 years. Because, if you look back at older drafts, lets just say last year. Everyone was saying the leafs made a HUGE reach to get Easton Cowan. After the season Cowan had, pretty sure the Leafs made an amazing pick.
Cole Eiserman at 20, is the steal of draft. 🎉
Love the Eiserman pick, wanted the Caps to take him at 17. Think he's gonna be incredible in NY
Nailed it, top 10 might be more challenging.
I did top 10 last year but then I had more than 2 days to recap the draft before free agency started lol
I like how you went a little deeper with each team.
Basha at 41 is a crazy steal and that's coming from a guy whose team got Demidov.
5 years from now, when Basha has a better career than Lindstrom, everyone will understand.
i have a controversial opinion that Lindstrom will be a better josh anderson, but oh well time will tell.
As someone who followed a lot of the med hat tigers, basha was the star of that line. Without basha lindstrom would be good but not produce no where of what he did while he was playing with him
Time will tell with Sennecke but he doesn't have just a handful of highlights he has a bunch of him. His moves can be ridiculous! Give him a couple of years to mature his game and fill out a bit with his new size and the kid might be considered a beast. He likes to hit too, which is good.
I definitely think Sennecke can turn out to be a really good player. The problem is he got taken in a spot where you're not going for a "really good player." You're going for a franchise cornerstone and there were those guys still available (Demidov, Lindstrom, Helenius, any of the top-end D)
@@DaRinkRat Not sure we can consider a 3OA pick a "cornerstone" player, that argument is much stronger at 2OA and obviously 1OA. It would be unbelievable to get a cornerstone player at 3OA, based on past drafts dated back to 1963, cornerstone player % for 3OA is low.
Sennecke had a ton of energy surrounding him into the draft from professional scouts, it was rumored CBJ wanted him at 4. Not as much of a reach as being presented. Time will tell for all these names at the end of the day.
You also assume Ducks had the ability to trade back in a deal that favored what they wanted, and that Sennecke would have been available in the slot they trade back for.
@@SH-zq4uy many cornerstone players have been drafted later than 3OA. He’s got that type of upside.
I think a lot of players drafted this year have a decent shot at becoming cornerstone players.
@@SH-zq4uythere was a cornerstone player available at 3. Sennecke over Demidov is a head scrather.
@@bouziB Drafting is an inexact science much of the time. Jamie Benn and Connor Hellebuyck were steals while Nail Yakupov was a bust and Filip Zadina looks very much like one of the latter types, too.
The Blackhawks desperately needed offense and forwards but instead of taking somebody who everybody thinks it's going to be a superstar they take a defenseman..... They will regret that
My Senators simply do not know what draft value is or how to work the board. Cheers from Ottawa 🍁
Ron Francis said Seattle would have picked a D-man, but both their choices were gone by 8. The only two D picked at that point were Levshunov and Yakemchuk. There’s obviously a big disconnect between the amateur “scouting” community and real NHL management.
Yeah I find it funny we hear a kid here calling out mistakes made by real scouts who have seen and talked to those prospects plenty of times. I've heard and seen it all before. There's always going to be some Pat Falloon, Nikita Filatov, Nail Yakupov, Nolan Patrick, Jimmy Waite that people see play against kids and think they are bound for stardom. I also remember guys like Erik Karlsson who Hockey News ranked 71 and International Scouting Services ranked at 22 and everyone was saying that guy was way too small to be drafted that high. Some even said there was a good chance he wouldn't last in the NHL. And there's Roman Josi who The Hockey News were the ones that ranked him the highest at 49 and some didn't even have him in their top 100. There are plenty of flashy guys who are dominant against kids then hit a wall when they play against men and there's plenty of guys that play a more simple game and fly under the radar and adapt much better against men.
I would also add that just because a guy seem more skilled than another doesn't mean he will do well on a given team. Sometimes it's about the guys you're going to play with. I remember Alexei Kovalev playing in Ottawa on a line with Fisher and Foligno. It was awful. They couldn't finish his play and he wouldn't play their grinding style. Now imagine if Kovalev had developping with guys like that. He would be seen as a bust today. The truth is nobody can predict the careers of draftees
i did not agree with these picks, but one; Luchanko. THE biggest steal of this draft was obviously Justin Poirier, who fell all the way to 156th (ranked 29-70). one of biggest steals also was Luke Misa, who for some reason fell all the way to 150th (ranked 25-65)...
Then there is Aron Kiviharju at 122nd, which was another odd drop, because he was supposed to go between 19-50...
I had all three go in the first round on my list. All three will be elite in the NHL and lots of gm's and scouts be eating some crow.
how many player in the history of the nhl were 5"7 ? this right there tell you why poirier as talented as he is fell that far, you don't win cup with small skilled players .
@GeneralMcNugget Cole Caulfield and Logan Stankoven are current NHLers who are 5'7", and there have been many throughout the history of the game.
@@thunderhammerx2966 On something like 1500+ who played atleast 1 game in 2024 there are 3 at 5'7, none of them has a cup. Since the salary cap there must be MAYBE 7-8 players who did. 5'7 is simply too small to be effective in the playoffs and anybody who does is an anomaly.
I disagree with you . Time will tell with Jett he will be Star ⭐️ 🛩️
What's Dallas giving up to get him?
Biased Flyers fan here - I don’t hate the Luchanko pick. I’m really excited to see how he develops moving forward. I know you shouldn’t draft for need at the top of a draft but we NEED centers and Jett has the tools to become a crazy fast, play making 2C.
Greentree's skating is such a problem. I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd fallen entirely out of the 1st round.
LA Kings just love players who are not good skaters. Greentree is pretty much a left-handed Gabe Vilardi. He'll will get traded for Pierre Luc Dubois all over again. LOL. Rob Blake is a terrible GM.
It's going to be funny when Sennecke ends up as the best player in this draft.
He definitely would have been gone before picks 10-11. Columbus was probably going to take him.
yak isnt a reach, his ceiling is sky high.
To say a pick is a reach by comparing with journalist or with the awfull judgment of NHL Central is not understanding why NHL teams pay a fortune for a full time team to evaluate themselve... if your guy is available at the spot you're picking, you dont risk it for a 2nd rounder uncertainty
Wild did trade up for Zeev, gave up a 3rd rd pick in 2025. If Flyers just drafted Zeev, they could’ve had 2 straight drafts with steals with Matvei Michkov last years draft. Flyers should’ve fleeced Wild by telling them I’m taking Zeev over their pick Jett over Eiserman.
Flyers steal mitchkov last year but threw this draft out the window.Mitchkov is small....watch him get hurt the flyers have no defense no goaltending no direction.........another decade of misery coming my way........For gods sake i could have done better......well I wish luck to other long suffering teams and fanbases...Islanders leafs canucks sharks I hope you fare better and land a cup.And a big congrats to those mighty panthers I started rooting for them
In round one against boston last year great to see them go all the way after falling just short last year it was an
incredible series vs the oilers all time super classic.
Both MTL and Philly had beckett sennecke in their scope, CBJ didnt want to trade. If the ducks traded with anyone there was a chance they wouldve lost becket
Demidov wasnt habs first choice
It feel this video going to age poorly
Make it make sense how a kid that scores 105p in the WHL... (more than Iginla that went in the top 10 and Basha who you literally said was a "mid 20" round pick) is a "reach" at 17oa. Both those players scored roughly 20+ points less that Parascak. His PNHLe rating is 5th in the draft? INSANE how little respect people have for this kid. "reach" is insane to me. i saw him at 15-20.
I think the Habs would have taken Senneke if Demidov and Lindstrom were gone. Senneke would have went 5. So he’s not that much a reach
I think Ottawa reaches sometimes because it's Ottawa and no one wants to live there. Personally, I think they shoulda took the best d-man in the draft, Zeev Buium, but would he want to stay there? would he be so demoralized by the lack of freedom in Canada and not live up to his potential? Yakemchuck seems like he's gonna be a solid player, so I'm ok with the pick.
Listen doing this based on trade value is wild i didnt even know that was a thing we could do but imma say this we can all have our opinions on the prospects in every draft and say our top 30 and mock drafts but we dont know nhl scouts watch these guys all year its there job and even they get it wrong so we dont really know as fans unless it's a McDavid or a bedard and even a echiel but other then that we dont know maybe senecka becomes a star and demidov is a bust like we dont know good video tho entertaining
I don’t think the bruins pick was a reach I do agree that Greentree was the better pick but I don’t think letournau was a reach he’s a raw prospect with a ton of potential and I think he would have went in the first round no matter what
He's a reach and Sweeney is an awful gm
@@lordrevanz16 Sweeney is a good gm. There’s a reason the bruins are always good
@@user-pn3gt2ij5e a roster he inherited. Sweeney is a buffoon and the Bruins will soon be atrocious because of him. His tenure is marked with horrible drafting, horrible signings, and horrible trades.
letourneau is not first round quality he was playing u18 aaa for his draft year. Even though he dominated at least 75% of the kids he played will be done hockey after u18/junior and guys who had well over ppg in major junior or close to in ushl/ncaa/european pro leagues were taken after him. He failed to register a point in 2 ushl games which isn't that bad but he needs some serious development to be worth a first round pic he shouldve gone wayyy later.
Don Sweeney is a total loser of a gm, constantly reaching and making horrible trades and signings.
I’m surprised that they got Demidov, I think that Demidov could end up having a more productive career than Celebrini. I also think that if he works on his straight line skating explosiveness, his shot, he is one of the top players in the league within 4-5 years. What amazes me about these; who won the draft, no one knows for sure until about 5-7 years from now. There was a lot of drafting for need this year as the prospect pool was just a little deep this year. It’s looking deep next year too. It’s a fun time to track players coming into the NHL, talent is being developed really well at a youth level
Ehh
Disagree on Yakemchuk,he has size avendage with 6.3,seriously as a Defenseman, the last time Senators had size advantage was Chara, and he is great scorer, are you kidding
That’s true and the reason why the Sharks selected Dickinson over Buium. But the Sens could’ve picked Dickinson (who already has NHL size and skates like the wind) but went with Yakemchuk. As a Sharks fan, I’m grateful for that.
If Demidov was playing in Canada or US, he would have been #1. So as a Habs fan, THANK YOU!
no
@@franksanders6428 yes
Absolute steal Habs getting Demidov at 5th.
The Habs would have taken Senneke at 5 if Demidov and Lindstrom were gone. Not a big reach at all at 3
The Habs are lucky that they didn't get the chance because Sennecke at 5 would still have been a big reach.
Lmao. I laugh at all the people who Underestimate Sennecke. As someone who has watched him play often throughout the last couple years, he just keeps getting better and better with consistant Highlight reels game after game.
He's very good but he's still a reach. Yakemchuk is less a reach than Sennecke is. He shouldn't even be there. Sennecke was 10+ on most list and ended top 3 is the reason why. He's still very talented and could blossom to a top3 talent still.
It's a reach bro.
That’s the problem with this video, the creator is just parroting what others are saying and has probably never seen most of these players ever play.
Independent thought is a good think. He/she should try it.
@@maximedeguise9577 You have no idea where he was on other teams lists, Columbus was rumored to want him as well.
@@LivingNed I know. This isn’t what I am saying. He was on Montreal list as well.
Yakemchuk filled a specific need for the Sens.
Demidov dropping 3 spots isn’t really that big of a steal. He’s not the consensus #2 pick if 3 teams passed on him. There are massive concerns about him even getting to North America
You have no idea what you are talking about..
No and no. Not a steal and not a reach.