Also not to get habs fans too excited, but the Habs have 10 picks in the first 4 rounds next year. 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 3 3rds and 3 4ths. So either expect them to make big trades with that capital, or to be moving up a lot in that draft.
Not even a year at gm and Conroy has Calgary from middle of the pack product pool wise to most likely top 10 now. With a plethora of draft capital still next few years
Blues also got Tomas Mrsic at 113. Elite prospects had him ranked 46th overall and with the 5th best shot in the draft. Huge upside there, my steal of the 4th round over guys like Kiviharju
I live in Swift Current and being a Broncos fan, i’m pumped that Clarke Caswell got drafted to Seattle. So excited for him. Very underrated player for the broncos on the WHL imo.
I think they only took Carter over Zayne because of size because there’s not that much defensive IQ so hopefully he develops it so he doesn’t become a Lassi Thompson
I’m honestly happy my Avs drafted three goalies, since that has obviously not been our teams greatest strength the last many seasons, so this should really help. And let’s hope Giorgiev and Juice stay healthy so we don’t call them up too early
we might have had the most overhated draft. nabokov has potential to be an elite goalie in this league, our deep round picks are looking like they could be massive steals
Minnesota had a sneaky good draft. Good to see from them. My Flyers getting a D+ is a little harsh. Teams already admitted that if Luchenko was there in the late teens they were going to take him so it can't considered too big a reach. I'd like to think they got intel other teams would take him @ 15-20 and didn't want to risk losing him. If he was their guy, then he was their guy so i can't fault them in taking him, but for a team that comes out and says they're desperate for high end talent, i just don't see it with this player. Probably turns into a solid NHL'er, but not a legit 1C. That said, I don't think Helenius becomes that either. My big probIem with them is I didn't like kicking the can @ 32 down the road (trading with EDM) because there was alot of talented players still on the board and it makes little sense to say "well next years draft is better" as the excuse. What if it's not? What if the 10-20 players you passed on turn out to be good? What if the 25' board doesn't fall your way? Too many unknowns to make a move like that on draft day. mid season? maybe. Draft day? make the damn pick. I go solid C, but no higher.
Faaaaaaaaaaaar too low on the Flyers. Getting next years 1st round pick from Edmonton was such a good move. Still not entirely sure how to feel about the Luchanko pick but Briere might be cooking
i'm a flyers fan as well and i didn't like them trading that pick @ 32 whatsoever. Didn't even get an extra pick for doing so. People can say "next years draft will be better so it's a win" all they want, but you're now pushing that 1st rounder from the Giroux trade back ANOTHER year, and there's no 100% guarantee the player they'll get in the mid 20's next year (20-32 assuming Edmonton will go deep again) will be "better". Toom many unknowns.
@@qbranch88but you’re almost guaranteeing that pick will Edmonton will be higher than 32, assuming they don’t win the cup. You have a higher chance of a getting a better pick regardless. I understand being irritated that we didn’t get two first this year but if our scouts weren’t high on anyone in that range, I don’t hate moving the pick to next year.
Feels weird you wouldn't include the trades as part of the draft ratings. They are an integral part to the draft as they usually include trade of picks with the trade of players.
Not to be outdone by their bad draft my Senators have made some bad trades and signings since then…so at least they’re consistent. Cheers from Ottawa 🇨🇦
Too low on Philly, getting a first next year for 32nd, bruhonen, Powell and pautov were also good value picks plus luchanko was shooting up draft boards, senneke was more of a reach than luchanko especially considering Demidov was there
You're sleeping on both Yakmenchuk and Danford... Can't teach size. Yaker put up 30 goals and defense is easier to teach than offense... While Paryk is going to get pushed around
@@teukka623 And that is fine. He gets 5 10 plus is 6-3 and growing. So we shall see. Paryk is guaranteed to get bullied in the NHL. Playoff hockey he stands no chance
@@MikeBartner almost a whole letter grade bc even though you’re not high on Levshunov a lot of people are. Plus getting 6 big physical forwards to build the back end of the forward group for the potential future should be considered
Blackhawks completely screwed this draft... after such a terrible season, it's actually embarrassing. 2nd overall pick for a player exactly like Seth Jones 🤦♂️🗑 KD gave away two 2nd round picks to move up in the 1st round and picked players he could have gotten in the 2nd round.. he left Eiserman and Hage on the board also 🤦♂️ Terrible. F- DRAFT
Chicago has very specific traits they are targeting in players. They basically looked at the Avalanche team that won the cup and decided speed and competitiveness are what they are targeting. Don't have to agree with it but their moves start to make more sense when you understand what type of players they are after.
All the guys who earn a living rating drafts rated their draft highly (Corey Pronman: A-; Chris Peters A; Steven Ellis: A+; and Scott Wheeler listed them among the draft's winners), but have at it, I guess.
There's a word for people who grade drafts the day after, and that word is premature evaluators. Or dummass, you get the idea. Still haven't moved out of your parents basement, I see, well, someday...
I'd take a player who knows what they're doing on the ice and just needs to get stronger and faster than a player who can do exactly one thing. Eiserman would maybe become something in the Caps pipeline but with the Isles' dev staff? Good fucking luck.
I get its your opinion but can you really grade teams draft picks? They have NHL scouts that have been following and discussing these guys all year. Also you never know how these guys are going to end up and who is actually going to hit their potential.
sharks and habs went crazy this draft
Celine Dion + Ivan Demidov, you simply cannot have the best of both world lmao
Agreed
As an Habs fan I can’t wait for the 2025-2026 season
Y’all are going to be GOOOD, coming from an Avs fan blessed with a talented team, y’all will be really good in a year or two
@@ourkamour on behalf of the group, thank you for trading him. He’s such a great player in any situation, and a playoff stud
@@ourkamourI think they have like 6-7 draft selection in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round next year, insane trade capital!
Also not to get habs fans too excited, but the Habs have 10 picks in the first 4 rounds next year. 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 3 3rds and 3 4ths. So either expect them to make big trades with that capital, or to be moving up a lot in that draft.
@@ourkamour it's very very unlikely they get the Flames pick. It's going to be the Florida most likely.
Very happy with the flames this year. Great way to start the rebuild
Very happy with the flames draft. Parekh, Basha, Mews, Grindin is huge. IYO what NHL team has the best prospect pool?
Misa as well. He was in the first round in some rankings
Sharks or Habs right now but I'll make that list in a week or so
Not even a year at gm and Conroy has Calgary from middle of the pack product pool wise to most likely top 10 now. With a plethora of draft capital still next few years
Blues also got Tomas Mrsic at 113. Elite prospects had him ranked 46th overall and with the 5th best shot in the draft. Huge upside there, my steal of the 4th round over guys like Kiviharju
I live in Swift Current and being a Broncos fan, i’m pumped that Clarke Caswell got drafted to Seattle. So excited for him. Very underrated player for the broncos on the WHL imo.
I hope Staios finds a new amateur scouting team. This one has been brutal
Definitely a concerning first draft!
I think they only took Carter over Zayne because of size because there’s not that much defensive IQ so hopefully he develops it so he doesn’t become a Lassi Thompson
@@MikeBartner it’s the same amateur scouts from Dorions team.
I’m honestly happy my Avs drafted three goalies, since that has obviously not been our teams greatest strength the last many seasons, so this should really help. And let’s hope Giorgiev and Juice stay healthy so we don’t call them up too early
we might have had the most overhated draft. nabokov has potential to be an elite goalie in this league, our deep round picks are looking like they could be massive steals
Minnesota had a sneaky good draft. Good to see from them. My Flyers getting a D+ is a little harsh. Teams already admitted that if Luchenko was there in the late teens they were going to take him so it can't considered too big a reach. I'd like to think they got intel other teams would take him @ 15-20 and didn't want to risk losing him. If he was their guy, then he was their guy so i can't fault them in taking him, but for a team that comes out and says they're desperate for high end talent, i just don't see it with this player. Probably turns into a solid NHL'er, but not a legit 1C. That said, I don't think Helenius becomes that either. My big probIem with them is I didn't like kicking the can @ 32 down the road (trading with EDM) because there was alot of talented players still on the board and it makes little sense to say "well next years draft is better" as the excuse. What if it's not? What if the 10-20 players you passed on turn out to be good? What if the 25' board doesn't fall your way? Too many unknowns to make a move like that on draft day. mid season? maybe. Draft day? make the damn pick. I go solid C, but no higher.
If you think Conroy cooked in this draft, just wait until 2025
I got the flames or wild for the win
Noah Steen is a steal
Where would Senecke be on your board if his first part of the season was as good as his second part+playoffs
Probably like 9th or 10th idk even his back half tape I wasn't as impressed as others
Utah also got Gabe Smith who is a big 2-way centre that will be a solid bottom six player
Faaaaaaaaaaaar too low on the Flyers. Getting next years 1st round pick from Edmonton was such a good move. Still not entirely sure how to feel about the Luchanko pick but Briere might be cooking
Getting next year's Oilers pick is irrelevant to the video. He stated that at the beginning.
i'm a flyers fan as well and i didn't like them trading that pick @ 32 whatsoever. Didn't even get an extra pick for doing so. People can say "next years draft will be better so it's a win" all they want, but you're now pushing that 1st rounder from the Giroux trade back ANOTHER year, and there's no 100% guarantee the player they'll get in the mid 20's next year (20-32 assuming Edmonton will go deep again) will be "better". Toom many unknowns.
@@qbranch88but you’re almost guaranteeing that pick will Edmonton will be higher than 32, assuming they don’t win the cup. You have a higher chance of a getting a better pick regardless. I understand being irritated that we didn’t get two first this year but if our scouts weren’t high on anyone in that range, I don’t hate moving the pick to next year.
Edmonton really beefed up their roster! It could quite possibly be the 32nd pick. Edmonton's 1 of my cup favorites next season.
Feels weird you wouldn't include the trades as part of the draft ratings. They are an integral part to the draft as they usually include trade of picks with the trade of players.
Not to be outdone by their bad draft my Senators have made some bad trades and signings since then…so at least they’re consistent. Cheers from Ottawa 🇨🇦
7:21 it’s pronounced “Shuh-tan”, not Satan 😈😆
Too low on Philly, getting a first next year for 32nd, bruhonen, Powell and pautov were also good value picks plus luchanko was shooting up draft boards, senneke was more of a reach than luchanko especially considering Demidov was there
You're sleeping on both Yakmenchuk and Danford... Can't teach size. Yaker put up 30 goals and defense is easier to teach than offense... While Paryk is going to get pushed around
I mean if you’ve seen his goals he isn’t going to be allowed to do that in the nhl
@@teukka623 And that is fine. He gets 5 10 plus is 6-3 and growing. So we shall see. Paryk is guaranteed to get bullied in the NHL. Playoff hockey he stands no chance
Crazy hate for the Hawks. Would
Give them a B+.
B- for B+ you're acting like I gave them a C-!
@@MikeBartner almost a whole letter grade bc even though you’re not high on Levshunov a lot of people are. Plus getting 6 big physical forwards to build the back end of the forward group for the potential future should be considered
A single solid pick gets Vegas a B+/A-? Okay then.
Looks like you're scouting is off haha
Lets elaborate please
@@MikeBartner the grades 💁♂️
Outside of the first round, Montreal's draft was abysmal compared to teams like Minnesota, Carolina, and Calgary.
You really don’t know for a long time with those later round picks
Blackhawks completely screwed this draft... after such a terrible season, it's actually embarrassing. 2nd overall pick for a player exactly like Seth Jones 🤦♂️🗑 KD gave away two 2nd round picks to move up in the 1st round and picked players he could have gotten in the 2nd round.. he left Eiserman and Hage on the board also 🤦♂️ Terrible. F- DRAFT
not even a blackhawks fan, but this might be the dumbest comment i’ve ever read on any video
i dont think this guy knows hockey more than a gm lol
@@adamlumani explain how lol? It's facts. Zeev Buium is a better d man than levshunov.
Chicago has very specific traits they are targeting in players. They basically looked at the Avalanche team that won the cup and decided speed and competitiveness are what they are targeting. Don't have to agree with it but their moves start to make more sense when you understand what type of players they are after.
All the guys who earn a living rating drafts rated their draft highly (Corey Pronman: A-; Chris Peters A; Steven Ellis: A+; and Scott Wheeler listed them among the draft's winners), but have at it, I guess.
This guys a casual
Dont be hutthurt he didnt rate your team high.
Did you hear how he pronounced Miroslav Satan's last name? I think you're right bro
7:21
Lets use our big boy words and explain our critiques instead of just the default npc "casual"
@@MikeBartner you don’t even know that much about the prospects and just because a team reached its a bad pick ig
There's a word for people who grade drafts the day after, and that word is premature evaluators.
Or dummass, you get the idea.
Still haven't moved out of your parents basement, I see, well, someday...
Lmao get a job
Bro he’s a youtuber. He’s making content besides speculating is what sports is all about
You seem fun at parties lol
Lmfaoooooo yea according him we can't talk about the 2024 draft until the year 2030
Parascak pick just sucks. Shoulda took Eiserman
I'd take a player who knows what they're doing on the ice and just needs to get stronger and faster than a player who can do exactly one thing. Eiserman would maybe become something in the Caps pipeline but with the Isles' dev staff? Good fucking luck.
I get its your opinion but can you really grade teams draft picks? They have NHL scouts that have been following and discussing these guys all year. Also you never know how these guys are going to end up and who is actually going to hit their potential.