China will 'hate' British for their response to Chinese cyber attack | Chris Patten
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- "The Chinese Communist Party is a threat, it's really defined itself as that."
Announcing China's involvement in a cyberattack on the Electoral Commission will 'annoy' Xi Jinping but doesn't go far enough, Chris Patten last Governor of Hong Kong tells John Pienaar.
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Sanctions? No one gives a damn. Reduce their diplomatic presence in the country, limit their exports to this country, impose tariffs or just ban imports from them. The UK (like the rest of the free world) imports far more than they export to that nasty regime, and whatever we do import we need to find alternative sources for anyway. If the British public feels hard done by by losing access to Temu, Shein or other disgusting suppliers, then educate the public as to how they get their cheap tat out at such a low price: it is not pretty.
We can't limit Chinese imports. The UK's poor, of which there are many millions, need cheap goods.
Indeed, use the tax system to make chinese imports unattractive, other sources will soon replace them
@@Withnail1969 ...lol... according with that idiotic logic the UK will get even more poor - chinese low quality products made with low wages will always be cheaper than western productions and will put out of job the westerns companies and create lots of unemployment!...jobless people don't buy at all, so cheap goods are not an argument!... the solution for the west is to bring the industries and jobs back by taxing chinese productions!... there is no discussion on this
😂😂😂 I suggest don't get the cheap tat out 😂😂
We couldn’t even make face masks or gowns. Started by Thatcher when she shipped our jobs overseas to enrich her rich donors. She was one of the most anti British leaders ever. My teachers told me she was destroying the country by making us too weak to ever defend ourselves, no steel, no manufacturing and the enrichment of the CCP. This was forged by Thatcher so workers couldn’t get their fair share of productivity gains. Those neocons are the most selfish, greedy and corrupt people to rule in the West. Need to bring back the social contract and drain our politics of those who act against us.
Just wake up Britain ,
the earth is flat
@@JORDANDAVIES30: So are your brainwaves
No woke allowed in Britain...sorry.
Wake up from the recession?
looks like abandoning industry to become a service economy wasn't such a smart move after all!
Big surprise.
that was the plan and it was known all along, it wasn't a mistake. The service economy was always a fiction. How do you sell the peoples destruction to them, you cloak it under all sorts of nonsense terms.
Blame thatcherism
It was a smart move - as long as we were in the EU. Leaving the EU was NOT a smart move.
@@timonsolus Bullocks & Bagpipes.
When will the UK get a Backbone?
Since when u brits have a backbone? U always run and jump where ever the american tell u to do so. 😂😂😂
Our Chinese tourists and students have been feeding you Brits. Without them, your country will be already in recession.
Rich capitalists don't care about liberal democratic politics because they prevail in any good or nasty regime.
Stop investing in enemies?
The enemy is from within.
The smart multi national companies have already started pulling out of China. You will start seeing more things manufactured in Vietnam, Mexico, India, Africa and Indonesia.
Stop their students “mining” our Higher Education knowledge base - and fund our universities properly!
The government can’t afford to fund our universities properly. Too much student debt isn’t being repaid, and people don’t want income tax increased.
@@timonsolus We managed just fine without Foreign Students along with their entourage for many many years. Most are just militant breeding grounds for the easily led. Most should be shut down. Along with their Woke Nonsense and the diversity bull shine!
Their students dont even study, they pay others to do their work, plagiarize and get away with it. The universities turn a blind eye because they want ccp$$$$
chinese student paid x3 fee that what keep those uni from close down
Government was nearly bankrupt by paying so many benefits takers.
the chinese could not care less about britain.
LOL the CPC literally bases their entire historical narrative around blaming Britain for everything
Lol, well they clearly do if they're spying on our MPs and downloading our electoral register!
The Chinese do care about their exports to the UK, though. And they care even more about saving face. They don’t like being publicly criticised. Much like Imperial Japan 100 years ago.
@@timonsolusuk acting like have 1 Billion population 😂
every nation counts. they care.
There's a lot of historical reasons for China to hate the UK, but this recent issue would rank very low on that list...
I lived there for almost three years. Agreements and contracts are virtually meaningless
The ignorant underdog is barking its silly nonsense. How shameful n despicable. What are you doing there, are you cleaning toilets in China
And as I understand it, if you get into a business or legal dispute with a Chinese national, you may find yourself forbidden to leave the country until it's resolved, which can take years. The initiation of these disputes is often quite arbitrary as well, with no warning whatsoever.
The frustrated underdog is barking its silly nonsense. Are you cleaning toilets in China
@@guydreamr keep dreaming
@@guydreamr
Maybe it happens in your former colonies like India which they learned from you Imperial Brits.
As a matter of principle, the Freeworld should have nothing to do with repressive, autocratic, and undemocratic regimes.
All nations in the world should have nothing to do with nations who support Is reel.
@@tonyatgoogle6076: All nations in the world should have nothing to do with nations who support I ran or its affiliated organisations (H, H, and H).
flock cryna they are nobody's friend
Are you talking about the UK government by any chance?
I take that you mean Izrael
Stop buying
And be a homeless person without even a tent
Dont trust them, ever!
stop buying their F***ing cars.
This is absolutely true. Not just obvious Chinese brands like BYD and Maxus, but MG and Volvo and Polestar, now Chinese owned. Buy nothing from them, insofar as that it possible.
Absolutely. Especially their electric cars. They are a fire hazard.
Whilst tapping on a Chinese made keyboard LOL
Why does the news about cyber attacks always come from politicians rather than cyber security experts?
@@satriojumeneng7055 : Because the cyber security experts work for the government.
Stop feeding the dragon, full stop.
Feed yourself first
travel more and see how your government has shafted you
How's the recession going?
@@darthvadeth6290 How's that property sector and stock market in China going?
@@yaoliang1580 The British people are perfectly capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. China is a major power which needs to be evaluated and dealt with. As the Chinese general Sun Tzu said, "Knowing yourself and knowing your adversary, in 100 battles no danger." _The Art of War_
Roedean girls public school has been full of Chineese for 15 years now , all future power girls , not many English debutants anymore ! MI6 I hope are keeping an eye on their progress ?
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Conservatives were fine with Putin supporting Brexit to weaken the UK and EU though...
Nonsense.
The much lauded Frau Merkel trashed German industry. Now she’s sunk like a submarine.
Great political unrest is coming to Germany. Once the auto companies start shedding workers it will kick off.
the intelligent british public did not need putin WE DONE IT OURSELVES...so go peddle your woke bedwetting somewhere else
That has bee thoroughly looked into and still no proof exists. Stop peddling lies.
EU could not get any weapons to Ukraine without tangling themselves in bureacracy. Even the Americans called it out and they have Trump and Speaker Johnson doing their "entangling" . When Orban decided to stall the EU aid to Ukraine it didnt stop UK. The very odd situation now is that London is leading and coordinating Europe in a WAR like in 1939 - 1941 ...source: Putins Invasion Must Fail Gov.UK 24 Feb 2022 PM statement Ukraine
Stop heading your videos with snapshots from further in the interview. We don’t all have 5 second attention spans. This constant editing of a highlight in the first moments of the video only to be repeated 3 minutes later is nauseating in the extreme.
Yes it's really annoying. Also shots of presenters not actually in the conversation. Stop it.
Absolutely
Its extremely annoying
Good interview.was well worth listening too without certain hosts bungling questions .
When you look at the government’s weak response, I simply assume that this government is grateful for Chinese help interfering in our democracy.
I don't think the Chinese will lose much sleep over this issue because there is so much proven false narratives by the BBC and American media that everything reported by the British is at best taken with a pinch of salt!
Having met Chris Pattern in Bath when he spoke, in public, on his first visit back there after many years..... I have to say that I have always admired his knowledge and analytical skills... especially when it comes to Hong Kong. We really have 'dropped the baton' when it comes to protecting the rights of those there...... Back to this subject: Putin has been an annoying and dangerous distraction, but China should be the place to take our serious attention as it is there that the true future risk lies.
Patten is a tory prat the ccp called him "fatty pang" which he deserves!!!
They will be so frightened of the English warriors -
Hong Kong has nothing to do with us, drop the colonial mindset.
If the majority of the Chinese are not snakes, then the pope ain't catholic... 🤣🤣🤣
Yes UK and its 80 thousand troops China must be scared. Ukraine would finish UK in 2 months at the most. keep on dreaming mate this is 2024 not 1824. Please send all your troops to Ukraine not your warships they would sink by themselves What a joke to the rest of the world you lot are.
Simple , disinvestment and sanction
As an ex HK resident it is very refreshing to listen to someone with an understanding of the CCP.. do not offer any compromise make them lose face! as for trade it is a double sided affair.
More like HK thugs
Yo my homie, Sir Patten!
Does this mean an end to Temu?
Nice to see Patten again. I lived in Hong Kong in the 90s.
Good insight.
Patten still feel sad to had to left Hong Kong when he see how hk is way better to live in than london. 😂😂😂
@@walhdamaskus2408 HK is nothing more than an open air prison now run by Beijing's dickless puppets.
It must be sad for you to lose your privileges and exceptionalism after the Great Handover of Hong Kong to its rightful owner. 😂
Was there anyone who criticized the US when they spied on Sweden and other countries in Europe through Danish data cables? Of course not hypocrisy when it is at its nastiest
You think other countries including allies don't spy on each other
Oh dear - what aboutism. Well, that lets Xi off the hook. Doesn't it?
@@angaleimotuall do so what's the problem? Chill what's wrong with white people.
@@Whangareitaiji3138😂😂😂
@@Whangareitaiji3138, for hypocratists true fact is what aboutism.
Do u think the world will beleaves or takes brits seriously on this accustion when it come from MI6 and CIA. What countries dont spy on eachothers? U brits and yanks still cant bring any solid proof about saddam MDW till in these days.
The main problem for me is that we only have the governments word that this actually happened...and we all know our own government lies to us continuously.
What would the Chinese expect that they would take it laying down?
If only the current Tory government would listen to its 'own' towering intellects such as Patten, we might be in a better place... but the small-mindedness of our current UK 'leaders' is itself the biggest barrier we have to finding a new way to 'be' the UK in this changing world (rather than trying to be a Rees-Moggian charicature of our misremembered past).
The answers are so obvious a five year old could list them. What a five year old doesn't appreciate is that making money is the primary thing that matters in the political world, far above concerns about people.
My prescription for the British would be (1) hard work and self-reliance, talk less and do more (2) urgently stop the rapid Islamisation, which, unless checked, could convert Britain into an Islamic country (3) nationally, define your identity - there are no wrong answers; but have confidence not arrogance. (4) internationally, live & let live peacefully.
Fear the Muslims!! 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤡
Do you think China cares?
He won't survive.
Can anyone explain what sanctions actually entail? It seems to be the main weapon in an invisible war right now.
There was some repetition going on there. We only need to hear it once.
Unlike the threat of importing garlic from China to the national security of the US, this allegation is easy to provide evidence with. UK should publish its findings, and it better not use word such as "could", "highly likely"
I'm sure China will be distraught over this.
Well they do despise this country
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp: They despise and fear democracy, because if the Chinese people ever get it into their heads that democracy is a good idea, the Chinese Communist Party is finished.
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp, who wont dispite this country. Even for america uk is just weasel.
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp Most Chinese could not even place the UK on a map
@@Withnail1969 LOL oh yes they could. Britain occupies a central role in their national victim narrative. I lived in China and saw it myself
Stop them putting their Takeaways and Restaurant’s in our Country.😂
No they won’t.
They’ll laugh at our weakness!
As an American, I agree, as I'm laughing while typing this.🤣
@@itinnyi Don’t underestimate Albion though. When it hits the fan we’re pretty tough…as are our cousins in the US. Remember “Nuts!” In the Bulge.
Too late on this one though!
I just tried to make a comment about Australia’s refusal to criticise a certain country even after said country caused injury to its naval divers using sonar and it was immediately removed.RUclips is a disgrace.
Yes YT is evil; but the alternative?
Chris Patten? Did Hong Kong people elect him to be HK’s governor? No, he was imposed on to HK by Her Majesty.
By Her Majesty 🤦 so you're still ignorant of how the UK works!!
Come on he was a good mate of John Major. He then moved on to the THE BIG EU at strausberg. talk about the old boy network.t
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@@ogribiker8535 UK deprived the colonies the right of democracy, isn't that how it works?
@@chengavitch10 But it learned and moved on from that. What do you think about the lack of democracy in China?
@@flipw3605 UK has not learned from its colonial past. Did UK give Hong Kong the democratic right to elect its leader? Did Chris Patten admit that the democracy he advocated did not apply to him? What a hypocrit!
China must be shaking in their boots lol
I want to live in a country where all my movements are on government cameras!
So you like the UK then, they are far more on camera than the chinese
They despise you anyways
All very true, but it's bloody rich coming from Chris Patten after the truly remarkable amount of kowtowing he has done in the past.
People change their minds as situations change. It's called "a sign of maturity".
@@Whangareitaiji3138 Ooh Keynes... well, facts can change, but fundamental principles don't - unless you advocate hypocrisy...
As Governor of Hong Kong, Patten was not allowed to criticise China, by the order of the UK Foreign Office.
@@timonsolus That did not extend to the time after...
Unlike the politicians that have surrounded him in his career, Chris Patton has always stood out as a man of intelligence and great integrity. More of him on Times Radio, please!
Xi 'Will hate this' Thundering clickbait.
Britain is irrelevant n insignificant
eye for an eye, we have hackers too...
Yes and we have been using them for years but they never mention that.
So much talk into retaliatory actions but yet no supporting evidence to the narrative.
It's another 'Just trust me' moments like Iraq 2003! 😂
And you hate hate China
It's a country that deserves censure.
Cameron has been batting for China for decades. Hence the pathetic response to Chinese hacker antics.
The UK is all talk.
You Have No idea about British syky.
@@newton18311 Please explain the British "Syky" then.
Any forms of accusations by any country against another must be supported by proof of evidences otherwise the world situations bet countries won't not progress in good relations and there won't be any healthy competitions or well being bet countries!
Quit buying their products. Problem solved.
Ha-ha-ha!
He typed on one of their products.
@@michaelcoward1902 ain't got much of choice. Stop buying more.
Simple minded method. Think of the reasons why this was done.
@@wongcheongshek2573 care to elaborate Confucius
Not to mention British piano hustlers filming "illegally" Chinese spies.
Ha ha, another Dr K follower, hi there, from New Zealand. "Don't touch her, you not same age"
Stress is beginning to make me mean.
The ultra low cost postage rates from China should be stopped. They use it to send cheap small items that undermine business in UK. Fair delivery costs would level the playing field.
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china has been a bloody nuisance for a long time now, but the UK politicians response has been pathetic.
They wouldn’t be bothered. They know not to waste time with the British, they just deal with British’s master.
Shutting down a Chinese takeaway shop near parliament?
Another example of just how spineless this government is hit the Chinese where it really hurts.
Britain is irrelevant n insignificant
And thats is??
@@walhdamaskus2408yup. I’m curious too. 😄
It's hard to fight with clown shoes on.
Lol 😂
See Laurie Garrett's 'The Coming Plague' published 1994 on Covid.
Winnie the pooh mad at you
Thank you Times Radio, from Canada. Your objective coverage of the news is very appreciated around the world.
Why does the news about cyber attacks always come from politicians rather than cyber security experts?
Because cyber experts are sworn to secrecy.
Because it's state propaganda, problem is any of the herd can't get enough of the garbage.
Poor UK
we listen in to our own royal family so im sure we are listening back lol
Criminals always hate getting caught
That's why we have China to lay blame on, easy.
have supported FREE TIBET sonce 1977 when I visited Dharamshala where their Government is in exile.
Tibetans have undergone the same "ethnic cleanisng" that the Urainians get from the Russians but becuase the Tibetans are devout Buddhists and non-violent, the Chinese Han have over run the country unopposed. The Chinese Communist Party invaded Tibet in 1950 and ever since then the Tibetans have had this happen to them. Tibetans are lovely people FREE TIBET
I have a question to ask you regarding this 'ethnic cleansing', under Dalai Lama first year rule in 1934 Tibet had a population of 1.05 million and in 1959 the population reached 1.23 million, International commission of Jurists said there were more than 1.2 million or 1 in 6 Tibetan got killed, where is the other extra 5 million Tibetans (in dream or in virtual space) coming from in Tibet. And talking about genocide here is a number I can't figure out if 1.2 million Tibetan were killed in 1960 that would in theory left 300000 Tibetan in Tibet, if there is a genocide how did the population increased by more than 23 times in 70 years when in the previous 60 year to 1900 when the population was 400000. In other word no ethnic cleasing only increase the population by 2.5 times in 60 years and in 70 years of ethnic cleansing the population increased 23 times. I also can remind you that most of the Hans do not want to live in high altitude Tibet.
Seems like the Brits lost their Fish and Chips and are blaming the Chinese for it.
I'll give you a tip, it's in India, your Indian PM sent it there. 😂😂
What a dumb statement🤡
This guy is a legend.
Legendary lack of judgement.
he is a headline repeater
Confronting China will step on the toes of some very wealthy Brits, thus not much will happen. Similar to how wealthy British people are able to keep their money schemes with Russians alive, even as their government ostensibly is anti-Russian.
The UK may be anti-Russian, or anti-Putin, but they are most certainly not anti Russian money. Same thing for China. Some Blue or Red donor is making a killing with the Chinese, therefore not much will actually happen.
Take a look at the Group 48 Club
In other words, the Group 48 Club
Sneaky lot.
Is this thing on a loop?
Nice to hear Lord Chris Patten 👍👍👍
I found this interview extremely interesting. Thank you.
What a very hypocritical propaganda claim when all cyber attacks are always a two way Street;
The bitterness and anger and hatred of a former Governor and an agent for an Imperial power who lost a very well paying job for doing nothing for the people of HongKong. Now he talked about democracy, which Britain denied the people of HK for 100 years. China doesn't hate Britain. Britain is completely irrelevant, is inconsequential as far as China is concerned. Just go away Patten.
keep the egg roll out of this
Said so well lord patton , of course being the governor of Hong Hong gave home the best understanding of China , having spent 3 years there as well it is exactly what the UK should do , we need to be strong again ….and it takes leadership to do this …
Can you provide an action plan on this, I like to know about how UK can be strong again, what sort of leadership with rather dismal leadership team not just in UK but across the Atlantic in US。
I don't like the form of this video. You start listening, and then it is repeated and I stop it and move to better structured videos of others.
The british establisment needs to move on, Hong Kong is not yours anymore, get over it!!!
This is the weakest and most pathetic thing Ive ever heard
It really irks me how this station repeats its points twice,in the edit, to drill things into your head. The Times does it incessantly. Stop trying to program people and just report the news.
If the right wing media stopped programming it's audience it would quickly go out of business because people would stop voting against their own best interests.
That's brain washing technique.
Are u serious?
Chris Patten is a BS
What you Europeans never seem to get is that any one or two countries in Europe dont mean that much strategically. However, France, Germany, Italy, and the UK with the rest of Europe can be as influencial as the USA. Add that North America and the USAs Pacific allies in and that is a most powerful block that can rule the roost.
Did the US and UK and NATO rule the roost in Afghanistan after 20 years? Rule the roost....
I discount everything this guy is saying😊
hi
The problem is that there is no proof, just accusations.
It’s called thief calling others thieves. The real hackers are from USA and their allies and their dark web. It’s China being hacked by USA and its spies and hackers. It’s USA and NATO and their military allies’ favourite tactic: flip the truth upside down, blame shift, scapegoat, blame others of their own crimes.
Taiwan is not ‘Chinese’. It is Taiwanese.
Not according to the UN!
@@symphorosayee3118lol so all of sudden you care what the UN says, it’s a useless organization that does nothing 😊
So are the Scots and Wales, they are not British and should be declared independent.
I think Taiwan is Philippines
@@MalaikatPenyelamat
You must have been born with the leg out first. People go from the mainland to the island, not the other way around. So the Philippines belongs to China since Taiwan is a province of China.
Kashmir is a part of Pakistan.
Now its a chinese turn to be a cyber bad guy, before then it was the russian according to MI6 and CIA. And the world should be beleaves the brits and the yanks. 😂😂😂
We love their money
Nobody care about UK...today...f...o...😂
You cared enough to watch this video. Why was that?
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What was our response to them killing hundreds of thousands in the UK with COVID I forget?
dont wear mask, no social distance what you expect?
They gave us a solid months warning...it's not their fault that we elected selfish idiots who couldn't cope...
@@jetli740 I expect people not to develop and unleash bio weapons on the planet.
@@Irisishunter accuse you need to provide evidence, look back in history there a hundred of case..this is not the first
ppl like you really need to learn history
@@jetli740 exhibit A - millions of dead